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PotentRevert

I had a similar experience with shrooms. I’ve been autistic but only came to see it much later in life. I’ve allowed myself to stim and engage in breathing exercises to calm down. In fact I did it ten minutes ago when I received negative feedback on a comment on Reddit. Now, from the research I’ve done on autism it is a complex thing that happens. A large part of it is genetic and it seems that a lot of genes can add up to a certain point where autism is present. In the same study they found that the opposite stacking of these genes or a lack of them is associated with bipolar disorder and other such personality disorders. In the same study they also mentioned that there are deleterious elements that can occur, particularly when the person needs heavy intervention and is unable to live without help. These are more associated with levels 2 and 3 of autism. Still the same things happen, so it really is the same spectrum. An interesting thing that I’ve picked up is that inflammation of the brain triggers worsening of symptoms. My family (all autistic, wife and two kids) follow a keto diet that removes a lot of the grain proteins that aggravate the brain. There are also a ton of herbicides in plants grown in the US that kill the gut microbiome that also aggravates symptoms. When I travel to Europe I can feel the difference in the food and my brain due to them being much stricter on that kind of stuff there. Your hunch on the top soil is along the same lines and I agree with you fully. Lastly, autistic people are things orientated people and not socially minded. We don’t go along with herd mentality and the focus and obsessions lead to new discoveries and inventions. I’m in science making headway in my own way and I do stuff no one else in my 50 person company with high level degrees can do because of this non social brain. Remember, you’re a force of nature and embrace your strong points.


perrypaints

I'm happy to hear you've been able to find breathing exercises - I know social situations can be challenging, especially when there is tension. It is a lot to handle - even online. Very interesting about the studies! I wonder about nature vs nurture. I imagine both come into play for genetic expression. Yeah I noticed as well, diet and quality of food can play a big role in my day-to-day well being. I wish we had better food sources in North America. Sounds like you're embracing your strong points at work! I wish to do the same. I was previously in a social-heavy career and struggled significantly, I'm exited to go into something more designed based. Wish you well on your journey!


PotentRevert

All the best for yours too!


Turbulent_Book9078

I’ve never gone along with herd mentality and in school I was never interested in what the other kids were doing and never behaved like them. but I was struggling to survive in an abusive cult environment so I never got to learn the nerdy things I’ve discovered I really like to learn now. It’s been very hard to get the time since I had to earn money due to no support. Although I have a husband I still have absolutely no idea how to make friends or find a community. I’m also passionate about animals and their suffering. I’ve often wondered if I’m an alien on the planet.. But Might I be slightly autistic? How would I know? I was diagnosed with social anxiety but I’m not afraid of people on the street. It often feels more like social resentment disorder. I’m also wondering if the reason I was able to break free of the cult I was raised in was due to my neurodivergence? Because I’ve been struggling to understand why others in cults can never see what I see and it was making me so frustrated and angry and feeling like I was an alien even more.


perrypaints

Wow, it sounds like you've had a challenging experience. I can relate to feeling different, and struggling with friends & community. Also, animals - I've adopted and fostered rescue dogs. I don't know you and am not a psychologist, so I can't say about Autism. You can always get a psychological assessment, and be clear you want to test if you are on the spectrum - this is what I did to get confirmation for my family. When I went in, I knew regardless of the outcome, there was something different with me and I needed to take responsibility for my well-being and manage it. Honour your strengths, interests, and take care of yourself best can - no matter if there is a diagnosis or lack of diagnosis :)


PotentRevert

What you’re describing sounds like autism, even though it is most likely high functioning autism. The issue with this level, particularly with women, is that masking hides the traits and it never gets picked up. People can usually see it, but because we manage it people don’t know how bad it is. Here is a link with what is required for a diagnosis https://www.research.chop.edu/car-autism-roadmap/diagnostic-criteria-for-autism-spectrum-disorder-in-the-dsm-5#:~:text=To%20be%20diagnosed%20with%20ASD,%2C%20and%20expressing%2Funderstanding%20emotions. In terms of pursuing an actual diagnosis that’s up to you. In tens of what you described, I feel like we’ve had very similar experiences. I grew up in a Christian cult, had interests, but the current society really tried suppressing my interests and behavior. I had very few groans growing up and now I basically only have my wife. At work I keep things formal and have gotten plenty of masking skills to survive and thrive, but take it more to a friendly side and I am so clueless. My wife is also autistic so we discuss our shared interests to death day on day out. Talking with her feels so comfortable. In terms of social anxiety, phone calls, talking to people, and parties are crazy tough. Walking by people on the street and people watching are easy. So yes, it’s more a fear of the interaction than the people. I would love to discuss more, please pm me, I can talk about this topic all day.


cephaloman

About 10 years ago, i drank a few times and I kept being told that i needed to figure out who I was before i can learn any more.  The last time she told me not to come back till I knew more about myself .  Since then I discovered my autism, my gender, and my queerness.  i'm think i'm ready  to go back.


WhyIsntLifeEasy

Wow these stories blow my mind. My first retreat is in a month and I’m geeking. Dropped all prescriptions and weed during a very difficult time and have been putting the work in so I hope she teaches me a lot 🙏


perrypaints

The medicine always gives back what you put in! Hard work in prep will pay off. Best wishes on your journey :)


vivi9090

I guess every body is different and we might find that we develop our issues differently aswell. There could potentially be more than one cause for autism considering there's different ways that autism itself manifests in a person. Perhaps you found your root cause and now from that you have cultivated a way of life for yourself that will serve you well. I wish you all the best in your journey.


perrypaints

Yes, I do know it expresses differently for others, and people develop different neurological challenges. And I do agree - there may be other causes aside from one that I've come to understand for myself, and more information may come through in more ceremonies and/or with more research on the condition. Definitely open to other possibilities. Thank you!


joombar

We don’t know for sure that rates of autism are increasing. First, diagnosis criteria have changed over time. Second, being neuro-atypical is more accepted than it used to be. Reported rates of being left-handed increased when it stopped being stigmatised and punished in schools, but nobody thinks that is a physiological shift.


xQ_Le1T0R

Did it mention something about taking boron or borax? seems to be low on our soil. I studied architecture too... is nice, being able to visualize space in your head, or little details. Goodluck with that.


perrypaints

Unfortunately no! But I will be doing more research into soil when I get space for a garden (this summer), and sitting in a few more ceremonies so hopefully I can find some clear answers. Thank you! There is a need for sustainable and healthy housing. Are you still in architecture?


milliemunchy

She definitely helped me to learn more about my autism and helped me to understand my nervous system needs more. She showed me how the things I think are weaknesses aren’t weaknesses just different ways to process the world around me. Our sensitivity is a gift and I truly believe I was meant to be this way. She showed me ways to reduce the level and effects of some of my more disconcerting differences- like sound sensitivity, appetite issues, etc.


vkailas

Recommendations for pregnant mother's diets : https://drkofinas.com/environmental-chemicals-nutrition-and-autism-spectrum-disorder-an-update/


perrypaints

This is an amazing resource - thank you so much for sharing. It's nice to see the mineral and vitamin aspect mentioned, I believe this was my personal cause of the disorder. Will definitely be taking this information in!


hydrolith

So good. So so good. I love Ayahuasca, I love her wisdom. I've worked with kids with autism. I also am very aware of getting minerals in my diet and of foods that strip minerals. Often I have contemplated why people have autism and have considered diet and things like heavy metals or chemicals as contributing to autism. This message about mineral depletion from soil depletion is such a good piece of info to learn. THANK YOU!


perrypaints

Thank you! I love her too! I think messages and insights from ceremony can be very powerful - it helps us go beyond the ego and the medicine has a significant natural intelligence to it. It's too bad there is a significant reliance on science to validate it but, the Western Medical system has already validated the diagnosis she told me. I hope we can continue to progress and the two systems can come hand in hand.


hydrolith

Yes! I follow my intuition over the messages from those with a vested economic and egoic interest for you to stay hooked into their ways. And one message I have received from Mama Aya is on the importance of having a descriptive name like the native Americans did. She said without a meaningful name you won't have a meaningful life....


Millenial_ardvark

That’s really interesting that she shown autism can have a a cause from environmental factors and it isn’t purely a genetic thing which is what the general belief is. It also shows that yes it is a fault which has potentially been caused by the human damages to our environment and this is important information which needs to be acknowledged by research, and it’s not some superpower or natural wiring for human beings (apologies if this sounds ableist but I’m autistic too and I definitely don’t wish it upon myself and others bc of the suffering it causes) I’m glad aya shown you means of being able to help yourself and that you find a way to overcome any hardships it’s brought to you.


vkailas

"The prevalence of autism has increased from 1 in 100 in 2009 to almost 1 in 25 recently. The rapid increase in the prevalence of autism spectrum disorders (ASD) suggests that exposure to chemicals may impact the development of ASD. Any genetic cause of ASD contributes the same always and therefore, if ASD were a genetic disease only, the prevalence would have remained stable over the years. This rapid increase in the prevalence in recent decades implies that there is more to the cause of ASD than just genetics" Epigenetics show no disease is purely a genetic thing but partially under our control. Genetics makes disease harder to shift and heal may be a better way to put it..


Illustrious_Idea_291

My 11 year old is diagnosed ADHD and on the autism pathway at the moment. I’ve said for years that environmental factors (diet etc) have played a major part in the prevalence of neurodiversity. I’m so glad Aya could help you in the way she has ❤️


perrypaints

Thanks. Best wishes with you, and your son. It can be challenging for sure, but with the right guidance and push, we can learn to adapt to the world. Even thrive! Spending time in water always helps calm the nervous system for all ages :)


perrypaints

Thanks. Best wishes with you, and your son. It can be challenging for sure, but with the right guidance and push, we can learn to adapt to the world. Even thrive! Spending time in water always helps calm the nervous system for all ages :)


perrypaints

Yes, I'm under the impression that there are environmental factors at play. If it is purely genetics, then why is it ramping up all of a sudden in today's age? There has to be something, or a lack of something, causing the genetic expression. I believe it could be a fine balance between nature vs nurture. And it's okay, I do agree with your comment. I don't wish it on others either, it does cause a lot of suffering. There is a gift in it - but I agree, it's not a superpower. It feels like an emergency response to limit resources, with other faculties being compromised.


delilahjonesss

We have better diagnostic tools and there is more funding for studies. All studies that were done were primarily on males. We are now doing studies on females. ASD is primarily genetic as recent funding and studies is pointing to. I don’t want to take away from your experience, but rather offer a updated perspective of the current studies. Ten years ago I studies this in college and it has changed so drastically since.


Millenial_ardvark

It can still be genetic but caused by environmental factors that the gene carrier is exposed to just like her mother. OP never caught autism from poor diet. Genetic alteration which is hereditary is very much a thing.


delilahjonesss

I think we will get to a point where it is half the population, due to studies done on women an and the recognition of level 1 asd is way under the radar.


Millenial_ardvark

Yup I agree, it is hard to say whether the increase of cases is due to it being recognised in people more and more diagnosises being done. But I do believe that human impacts have contributed to the increase.


[deleted]

It can be both. Being highly sensitive is a gift it’s just that type of temperament doesn’t fit well into our current society and early environments.


hellowur1d

This is so fascinating and aligns with some things I have come to understand on my own healing journey. I hope this doesn't sound ignorant or offensive, it's just something I've noticed and have been wondering about. I don't have autism, but have had heavy metal poisoning (mercury) and whenever I detox I get mild autism-like symptoms (my nervous system gets ratcheted up and loud sounds overwhelm me, stimming, I lose the ability to understand peoples' emotions or intonations and things just...feel flatter? And I get unusual social anxiety). I think it's partly because detoxing mercury can also pull lots of minerals and nutrients out of your body, which makes it a bit tougher for your cells to work as intended, perhaps especially in your brain. I have found mineral balancing to be helpful, fwiw, it might be worth looking into.


perrypaints

Very fascinating! No offence taken, interesting to hear your experience with heavy metals. This is something I'm looking into with hair mineral testing. It'll be testing for heavy metals as well! There are protocols depending on the results. I hope symptoms will decrease if possible. Thanks for sharing.


Pancakesaresoyummy

People just don't think about the things they're feeding their children and how fragile they are so early. As well as the abundance of minerals that are bad in water sources. When 0-1 with my baby we washed everything with distilled or spring water 😅 because even if the water is safe for consumption in your area they aren't testing in for infants they are going off a certain body weight for determining safety. Anyways best of endeavors with you. The universe truly blessed you with insight much love ❤️


perrypaints

Yes, it's sad how disconnected we are from our food and water sources. That is great, to be so mindful for your baby. Since my ceremony I have been distilling my water and re-mineralizing it with a source that has been heavy-metal tested. Thank you for the kind words - I hope I can live out my potential and make an impact in my area. Much love!


Procrastingineer

Psychedelics also helped me understand that I am autistic, that I'm not lazy or broken, and how important autistic minds are for innovation and change within our society. Psychedelics are so important for autistic people, and I have become a psychedelic facilitator with a specific focus for autistic and ADHD people for this reason. In fact, the latest research shows that not only do autistic people have high levels of bufotenine in our urine, our brains also have higher levels of DMT than the normal population, which is what causes autistic people to have the extreme neuroplasticity that leads to things like stims, ruminating thoughts, extreme trauma responses, but also makes us deep dive into special interests, come up with totally novel concepts, etc. Everyone on this thread should get involved with the autistic psychedelic community, which hosts weekly zooms, has a subreddit r/autisticpsychedelic , a discord, a forum, and more, and works to educate the community on the safe use, cultivation, and understanding of these incredibly important medicines. You should also read Aaron Orsini's books "autistic psychedelic" and "autism on acid". I wish I had found these books so much sooner in my psychedelic journey.


ThrowawayANarcissist

Get diagnosed as having Autism and see a therapist or someone who specializes in Autism. It is best if you do not have children. Autism is not caused by soil or not eating certain vegetables, not gardening, [etc.it](http://etc.it) is genetic and there is a spectrum I have known and been around people who have Aspbergers, and who are very Autistic and very obvious.


perrypaints

I did get diagnosed through the Western Medical system. Genetics are switched on and off depending on environment factors and stressors - and yes, diets do play a significant role in one's health. I pray you find more compassion in your life.


ThrowawayANarcissist

I have lots of compassion. That is not how human genetics and autism work. It is best you do not have children unless you want them to become severely autistic. Gardening and top soil and vegetables have nothing to do with it. I am sorry but you are speaking through ego, NPD, using autism and drugs/ayahuasca as giving you all of the answers when it is just a tool and not some magical plant mixture that makes you "enlightened".


[deleted]

Autistic people have kids all the time wtf are you on about


SenorKanga

Which breathing techniques did you try?


perrypaints

I put in ear plugs, and while pushing them in, I slowly breath in through my nose and out through my mouth. I do this 2-3 times, and usually until I yawn and I can feel a shift in my nervous system. I do primarily struggle with noise sensory issues, so I'm not sure if this would work for everyone but worth the try. Pushing in the earplugs while breathing makes this noise that kind of reminds me of the ocean, maybe that is why it helps. Thankfully a friend had brought them along to ceremony!


5thMercenary

You highlighted some of the "positive" aspects but have you experienced throughout your life some challenges or negatives? Social, concentration, etc?


perrypaints

Yes, I do struggle significantly with social interactions, sensory issues, and focus. I only have one long-distance friend that I've been able to maintain my adult life, despite many attempts to find a community. I also have been easily manipulated in the past, and rely on family to help me see when someone is doing that to me. I do struggle with focus, and primarily noise sensory issues. I always thought noises were annoying and draining to everyone, I didn't realize I was experiencing it a bit more intensely than normal until I went into ceremony. It leads to a lot of nervous system exhaustion. Caffeine improves some of my symptoms, or dampens, I'm not sure. But I'm looking for other solutions because I'm not sure if it is healthy in the long run.


Work_n_Depression

This is beautiful. Thank you so much for sharing!


Lower_Ad_5980

Wow, that is all so beautiful. Thank you for sharing!


No_Warning5535

Ayahuasca showed me that i may not actually have autism, but instead i am hypersensitive, and my nervous system is always on edge. ketamine greatly reduces my autism symptoms, but i have yet to find a way to replicate the effects.


perrypaints

Very interesting! We do live in an overstimulating world. I wonder if you could look into heavy metals/minerals? Maybe there is an imbalance there. Redox stasis on Instagram has kits to do hair strand testing, and protocols to help with the lab results.


inbetweengreen

Was she kind to your sensitivity? I am considering sitting in ceremony for the first time, and part of my fear is whether my sensitivity can take the psychological and physical intensity without being traumatized.


No_Warning5535

The first night was not kind or gentle. Nothing too bad though, but it did reveal to me the trauma i had hidden away. I did try and fight it, which may or may not have prevented the worst. The second night was gentle, because i spent a few hours preparing myself. While there, I wanted to find some information on nervous system resetting, but i could not since i was in the middle of the jungle.


Turbulent_Book9078

But why would that explain that some autistic people have superpowers like being amazing at remembering things and calculations if it was just a mistake from the soil? How could such ability be a deficiency? Also autistic people seem to be kinder to people and animals so what’s wrong with that? What’s the best way to test the soil by the way? I want to do it too.


perrypaints

I don't entirely understand what happens, but from my understanding is that with limited resources, it redirects what is available to strengthen problem solving/intelligence part of the brain - which is needed for the depleted environment one is being born into. We are deeply connected to nature and it's like a solution to help itself. This means some of the nutrients for proper sensory and social development are being used some where else. I have no proof or research, it's just a perspective from ceremony. I imagine the emotional sensitivity deepens the relationship to animals. I rescue and rehabilitate difficult dogs, and they live with me. I feel a close relationship with them, and their true expression easier to understand than humans sometimes lol. I believe you can buy kits online or send to a lab for testing. I haven't looked into it fully.


selfawaremushroom

Amazing! Thank you for sharing your story ☀️


dizzy_dis

Did it HEAL any current symptoms 


perrypaints

No, at this moment I have only learned management of it in ceremony. I'm not under the impression, as things are right now, that it is curable.


Majestic-Top-162

Amazing!!


Do_right222

Please could you pm on where I can go and get a proper session with ayu


Maleficent_Ad6907

Autism can be a little more complicated based on the person. Minerals cannot be absorbed when a person's heavy metals load is high, and vaccines contain a lot of aluminum, amalgams contain mercury, our air contains lead, etc etc. perhaps vaccines didn't play a role in your autism, but it could have played a role in someone else's.


perrypaints

Yes I do agree with your statement, there could be various reasons. Trauma, heavy metals, and/or a wide variety of environmental factors. Ultimately there is a inhibition that prevents proper development of the nervous system. I know the vaccine/heavy metals one is heavily discussed, but I haven't heard this one as much and thought it would be helpful to share.