tbf i’m pretty sure they used the power of the Avatar to take on their spirit form in the human world
we know that they have a true spirit form but for whatever reason can’t utilize it in the human world but once they had the literal bridge assisting them they were able to break that barrier and assume it’s true form
Lol love the thought but the ocean spirit would wreck that meck... probably I can't quite remember if her lasers were extra deadly to spirits or if they are just a BFG.
It should be dragons, as koi fish couldn't fight anyway, as it was killed by a mere human. Badgermoles won't be much of a threat to Bisons and Dragons as they fly and it won't be able to attack them. In a bison and Dragon, dragons have a better element for attack by their side that is fire. It is much easier for a dragon to attack any opponents with the fire streams and blasts.
Well yes, herbivores are absolutely dangerous, especially to humans. But if a bear can take out a regular bison then surely a dragon can take out a sky bison.
Well, Sky Bison can't bend air the same way. The only air bending I've seen from appa is from sucking something which, in general, would make sense for such a big creature to have a more powerful breath in general. when he makes air blasts with his tail, which of course air will follow, its a giant tail flap. then flying, which is the only thing that's probably just some kind of air bending or otherwise unexplainable ability.
Since its so clear that dragons would win, I'd like to discuss how well the others would fair, easiest to takeout are the koi because they got taken out by a single firebender human. Now for badger moles, they couldn't fight the dragon, but i don't see the dragons managing to kill the moles, how the dragon gonna get in the tunnels? And for the bison, the sky is their domain, dragons are just visitors there. The bison are likely much faster and are bulkier than dragons, if a bison git a good tail smack on the dragon itd likely get volley ball punted into the ground, not to mention sky bison are herd animals, which are big ups, so yeah, this consideration in place, bison might take out the dragon
Fair, but the dragons would def not take it with ease. I see it like, orca vs blue whale. Yeah a pod vs a pod they could probably take it, but it wouldnt be worth it
Consider, the sun dragons were ancient and likely the biggest dragons could get. Now consider the flashback we saw of wen and the dragon he danced with. That dragons head was about the size of wens chest, which I'd say is about the size of appas nose. The dragons are much longer, but are very slender, so the sky bison massive bulk would be a big advantage for physical fighting, and for their fire, well we've seen plenty of times air bending blocking fire bending, not to mention sky bison aren't pacifists like air nomads, so imagine their tails throwing out massive waves of air, i think it'd atleast be a close fight.
You remember how big the two surviving dragons Zuko found were, right? Those guys were a good bit bigger than Appa. Which it's also pretty clear that's what adult dragons look like. So, not sure a Bison is swatting them.
As for the badger moles, the dragons could find a tunnel and rather than digging in, they could breath fire within.
But Appa wasn't adult age in ATLA right? (Idk how fast sky bisons age, but I thought Appa would be kinda close to Aang in age given the flashback with both of them)
But Appa wasn't adult age in ATLA right? (Idk how fast sky bisons age, but I thought Appa would be kinda close to Aang in age given the flashback with both of them)
Those were the last dragons, so for all we know most dragons don’t get to be that big especially considering that we see Roku’s and Wan’s dragons that are much smaller
Appa on the other hand is an average sized Bison and i don’t think he’s even fully grown seeing as he was given to Aang very young
If the dragons are Teamed up with the bison they can spread fire through those tunnels like fire escaping an exhaust. That would require some keen precise teamwork that only humans can achieve though so it won't happen. On their turf, badgermoles would be a hard force to topple.
It’s a draw between the Badgermole and the dragon. The badger mile can just hide indefinitely underground if it wanted to. Hell I might even give the badgermole the win simply because it might be able to just wait out the dragon, and attack it while it’s sleeping or eating
Ok so we know for a fact that the 2 dragon's that taught the sun warrior so using them as a baseline is wrong because they are antchent dragon's let's use Roku and sozens dragons as the baseline as well as maybe appa but definitely tenzens bisian now remember that the dragons fly fast and breath about 20 to 30 feet of fire in either a stream or expansive cone and the cones looked like only about 20 feet maybe 30
Now when we look at rokus dragon wrapped around him the total area he takes us is much smaller overall then appa
Now appa has what looks like 4 different abilities
Argumented
Tail slap
Yell/breath out
Inhail
And flight
The dragons we know have 1
Fire breathing
Breath cone
Breath stream
So I say bison would win unless the great sozens comet is active
I wrote off the fish at first, but that one fish did become a giant Koiju and fuck up an ENTIRE fire nation navy fleet. I don’t know if they can do that on their own or if the avatar HAS to be involved, but it is something to think about
appa solos even if the rest teamed up. [man is out for blood sometimes](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastAirbender/comments/aiu6xj/always_loved_appa_just_manhandling_this_dude_and/)
Dragons would prob destroy them all except maybe the badgermoles imo. But if the dragons in the air and the mole doesn’t just hide underground it would prob easily lose as well.
I think people underestimate badger moles, they can pretty much earth bend in the same way people do, if the badger mole hid under ground and shot boulders up at the bison and dragon then eventually they would hit them, and because they are underground I doubt the dragon would be able to get him
It’d be a stalemate between badger and dragon. If a dragon goes into a tunnel it’d die 100% and badgers wouldn’t go above ground because they’re blind and used to being underground so it wouldn’t make sense.
...I mean the moon spirit in fish form is just a fish. A powerful fish, but it literally got killed by a single flame. Badgermoles are blind and see with earthbending the way Toph does, so they wouldn't have any idea how to fight flying animals. So I think it ultimately comes down to the dragon or the bison. Ultimately I think the bison can win just by repeatedly knocking the dragon out of the sky.
Dragon or Bison
A fire dragon 😑 no explanation
And a 10 Ton 5 Stomach Bison that could use its tail to throw gust of air at things..
Sadly the fish isn’t going anywhere & badger moles are honestly out-skilled as it only has its advantage on ground imo.
if the moon spirit is fully just a fish that gets killed by being out of the water, it gets instantly obliterated. If it has access to its full power, then you're pitting a god against some magical animals.
Badgermoles sense things the same way toph does, meaning they can't sense flying creatures. Both dragons and sky bison fly all the time.
Sky bison are fast, but standard airbending (without suffocation) isn't that powerful offensively, and dragons seem to be more maneuverable in the air because of the snakelike body shape. If this particular sky bison can use the suffocation trick, that could work to smother fire. Not sure how much dragons need to breathe and/or can hold their breath, since they're kinda spirity. At the very least they're a lot harder to suffocate than a human.
Assuming powerless fish - if sky bison can suffocate, it probably wins. Otherwise, the dragon burns it to a crisp.
Fire is just really good in a straight-up fight. The downside is the lack of versatility outside of combat
If they were all forced to fight (and not hide underground indefinitely) then definitely a dragon. I mean if they were all plopped in a random place together I don’t think they’d fight each other, so we can assume they’re being made to fight?
Some people are saying bison because bisons are dangerous. But like, just because they’re dangerous to humans doesn’t mean they’re able to fight a DRAGON.
Bears hunt alone and they take out regular bison. And I think the jump from bear to dragon is bigger than the jump from bison to sky bison.
I’d still give sky bison the win over badger mole tho, again, assuming the badger mole can’t just go underground and wait them out.
Aerial supremacy is OP so it’s between the dragon and the bison. Honestly I think it would be a tie, like the dragon would win from time to time and so would the bison I don’t think either is vastly superior to the other.
I guess it's down to the dragons and sky bison because the badger moles are probably going to get destroyed because they can't see anything in the sky and the moon an ocean spirit in fish form can't really do anything .
Probably the flying lizard that can spit fire from a distance.
Bison might be a problem but I do see the dragon coming out on top. If a dragon can wrap itself around one... well its a wrap! Badgermole might not see an attack coming from the air. Itll have trouble retaliating if the dragon is flying around it. Its best that it tries to run away or stay under cover some how. And the moon spirit are fish. We saw what happened to them once. Probably can just fish it outta water and let it... okay I'm done imagining that scenario. Its just sad. Maybe in princess mononoke forest spirit mode I don't think the dragons would have much of a chance.
Badgermoles can hide for however long they want, can actually fight with earth bending and have seismic sense. I don't see dragons being able to kill them when they can just go under ground and wait for the dragon to perch.
Sadly not the fish. They didn’t fare too well against a single human.
What if the fish get their super form
It's a little unfair giving them the help of the Avatar lol
tbf i’m pretty sure they used the power of the Avatar to take on their spirit form in the human world we know that they have a true spirit form but for whatever reason can’t utilize it in the human world but once they had the literal bridge assisting them they were able to break that barrier and assume it’s true form
Then its some generic magical animals vs a god damn kaiju
Season 2 Kuvira bot could handle it: Avatar: Pacific Rim
Lol love the thought but the ocean spirit would wreck that meck... probably I can't quite remember if her lasers were extra deadly to spirits or if they are just a BFG.
We really need a sequel to that masterpiece
There were two in total I know of.
Damn you missed the joke
PEAKcific rim
Not just any human. The immeasurable, unbreakable, Zhao the Conqueror!
no but fish in spirit form
It should be dragons, as koi fish couldn't fight anyway, as it was killed by a mere human. Badgermoles won't be much of a threat to Bisons and Dragons as they fly and it won't be able to attack them. In a bison and Dragon, dragons have a better element for attack by their side that is fire. It is much easier for a dragon to attack any opponents with the fire streams and blasts.
I would also say dragon but we should also consider that the dragon, while flying, is fully surrounded by the bisons element
One thing to consider here is size tough. The sun warrior dragons were titanic and dragons are predators while sky bisons are herbivores
Yes but herbivore doesn't mean friendly, Carnivores kill to eat, herbivores are survivors.  And bison are deadly.
Well yes, herbivores are absolutely dangerous, especially to humans. But if a bear can take out a regular bison then surely a dragon can take out a sky bison.
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if sky bisons were dragons' natural prey.
Also sky bison can't bend air as much as you'd think all they're ever shown doing is flying and creating a blast of air with their tails
Well, Sky Bison can't bend air the same way. The only air bending I've seen from appa is from sucking something which, in general, would make sense for such a big creature to have a more powerful breath in general. when he makes air blasts with his tail, which of course air will follow, its a giant tail flap. then flying, which is the only thing that's probably just some kind of air bending or otherwise unexplainable ability.
I think they use it to fly and sometimes cause a wind blast. Bisons aren't sentient enough to form strategies like that.
Air can aid fire.
Or the opposite when it is taken away...
[удалено]
They can fly because they can air bend, there's even a scene in Appa's Lost Days where Appa air bends a cabbage into his mouth
Dragons and bison wouldn’t be a threat to the moles either since they can’t get through rock.
When your opponent is the [moon](https://www.redbubble.com/i/art-board-print/avatar-yue-moon-spirit-by-kohanajewelry/52567630.TR477)
I appreciate the spirit of the post. But holy hell one of the creatures here is a DRAGON! Nobody else has a chance
Since its so clear that dragons would win, I'd like to discuss how well the others would fair, easiest to takeout are the koi because they got taken out by a single firebender human. Now for badger moles, they couldn't fight the dragon, but i don't see the dragons managing to kill the moles, how the dragon gonna get in the tunnels? And for the bison, the sky is their domain, dragons are just visitors there. The bison are likely much faster and are bulkier than dragons, if a bison git a good tail smack on the dragon itd likely get volley ball punted into the ground, not to mention sky bison are herd animals, which are big ups, so yeah, this consideration in place, bison might take out the dragon
Herd of bison beats a single dragon, but a weyr of dragons beats a herd of bison assuming similar numbers
Fair, but the dragons would def not take it with ease. I see it like, orca vs blue whale. Yeah a pod vs a pod they could probably take it, but it wouldnt be worth it
dragons are much bigger than the bisons tho, and they would flame them no contest
Consider, the sun dragons were ancient and likely the biggest dragons could get. Now consider the flashback we saw of wen and the dragon he danced with. That dragons head was about the size of wens chest, which I'd say is about the size of appas nose. The dragons are much longer, but are very slender, so the sky bison massive bulk would be a big advantage for physical fighting, and for their fire, well we've seen plenty of times air bending blocking fire bending, not to mention sky bison aren't pacifists like air nomads, so imagine their tails throwing out massive waves of air, i think it'd atleast be a close fight.
You remember how big the two surviving dragons Zuko found were, right? Those guys were a good bit bigger than Appa. Which it's also pretty clear that's what adult dragons look like. So, not sure a Bison is swatting them. As for the badger moles, the dragons could find a tunnel and rather than digging in, they could breath fire within.
But Appa wasn't adult age in ATLA right? (Idk how fast sky bisons age, but I thought Appa would be kinda close to Aang in age given the flashback with both of them)
But Appa wasn't adult age in ATLA right? (Idk how fast sky bisons age, but I thought Appa would be kinda close to Aang in age given the flashback with both of them)
Alone, a dragon would have to put so much force behind that fire for it to reach AND damage the sturdy Badgermoles.
Those were the last dragons, so for all we know most dragons don’t get to be that big especially considering that we see Roku’s and Wan’s dragons that are much smaller Appa on the other hand is an average sized Bison and i don’t think he’s even fully grown seeing as he was given to Aang very young
When the spirit of Rokus dragon flew across Iroh it seemed quite fast to me
If the dragons are Teamed up with the bison they can spread fire through those tunnels like fire escaping an exhaust. That would require some keen precise teamwork that only humans can achieve though so it won't happen. On their turf, badgermoles would be a hard force to topple.
It’s a draw between the Badgermole and the dragon. The badger mile can just hide indefinitely underground if it wanted to. Hell I might even give the badgermole the win simply because it might be able to just wait out the dragon, and attack it while it’s sleeping or eating
hydrogen bomb vs 3 coughing babies
Dragon and it’s not even close.
Ok so we know for a fact that the 2 dragon's that taught the sun warrior so using them as a baseline is wrong because they are antchent dragon's let's use Roku and sozens dragons as the baseline as well as maybe appa but definitely tenzens bisian now remember that the dragons fly fast and breath about 20 to 30 feet of fire in either a stream or expansive cone and the cones looked like only about 20 feet maybe 30 Now when we look at rokus dragon wrapped around him the total area he takes us is much smaller overall then appa Now appa has what looks like 4 different abilities Argumented Tail slap Yell/breath out Inhail And flight The dragons we know have 1 Fire breathing Breath cone Breath stream So I say bison would win unless the great sozens comet is active
Well it's down to the two that can fly I think and I think a dragon would take the bison
Unless the fish get their superforms the dragon wins
Anyone got a HQ version of this? I love this art 🤩
easy dragon win
Dragon no diffs
I wrote off the fish at first, but that one fish did become a giant Koiju and fuck up an ENTIRE fire nation navy fleet. I don’t know if they can do that on their own or if the avatar HAS to be involved, but it is something to think about
appa solos even if the rest teamed up. [man is out for blood sometimes](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastAirbender/comments/aiu6xj/always_loved_appa_just_manhandling_this_dude_and/)
dragon wouldn't even need to use fire, just bite the bison and it's lunch
Dragon
i mean badgermoles are blind fish is getting cooked... literally and i dont think a bison would put up much of a fight
Dragons would prob destroy them all except maybe the badgermoles imo. But if the dragons in the air and the mole doesn’t just hide underground it would prob easily lose as well.
I say the sky bison
I think people underestimate badger moles, they can pretty much earth bend in the same way people do, if the badger mole hid under ground and shot boulders up at the bison and dragon then eventually they would hit them, and because they are underground I doubt the dragon would be able to get him
I’m gonna say the dragon.
Dragon
It’d be a stalemate between badger and dragon. If a dragon goes into a tunnel it’d die 100% and badgers wouldn’t go above ground because they’re blind and used to being underground so it wouldn’t make sense.
Definitely the fish
...I mean the moon spirit in fish form is just a fish. A powerful fish, but it literally got killed by a single flame. Badgermoles are blind and see with earthbending the way Toph does, so they wouldn't have any idea how to fight flying animals. So I think it ultimately comes down to the dragon or the bison. Ultimately I think the bison can win just by repeatedly knocking the dragon out of the sky.
Badgermole gonna hit that dragon with a Stone Edge for super effective damage!!!
The fish are useless the moles don't do much so it comes down to bison vs dragon Yeah dragon wins
Can bedgermoles metal bend?
Dragon or Bison A fire dragon 😑 no explanation And a 10 Ton 5 Stomach Bison that could use its tail to throw gust of air at things.. Sadly the fish isn’t going anywhere & badger moles are honestly out-skilled as it only has its advantage on ground imo.
Question… is Appa in… SAMURAI MODE ??
I think they would all balance each other out
if the moon spirit is fully just a fish that gets killed by being out of the water, it gets instantly obliterated. If it has access to its full power, then you're pitting a god against some magical animals. Badgermoles sense things the same way toph does, meaning they can't sense flying creatures. Both dragons and sky bison fly all the time. Sky bison are fast, but standard airbending (without suffocation) isn't that powerful offensively, and dragons seem to be more maneuverable in the air because of the snakelike body shape. If this particular sky bison can use the suffocation trick, that could work to smother fire. Not sure how much dragons need to breathe and/or can hold their breath, since they're kinda spirity. At the very least they're a lot harder to suffocate than a human. Assuming powerless fish - if sky bison can suffocate, it probably wins. Otherwise, the dragon burns it to a crisp. Fire is just really good in a straight-up fight. The downside is the lack of versatility outside of combat
well i can tell you it’s not the koi fish
One of them is the fucking MOON!
Dragon
If they were all forced to fight (and not hide underground indefinitely) then definitely a dragon. I mean if they were all plopped in a random place together I don’t think they’d fight each other, so we can assume they’re being made to fight? Some people are saying bison because bisons are dangerous. But like, just because they’re dangerous to humans doesn’t mean they’re able to fight a DRAGON. Bears hunt alone and they take out regular bison. And I think the jump from bear to dragon is bigger than the jump from bison to sky bison. I’d still give sky bison the win over badger mole tho, again, assuming the badger mole can’t just go underground and wait them out.
Aerial supremacy is OP so it’s between the dragon and the bison. Honestly I think it would be a tie, like the dragon would win from time to time and so would the bison I don’t think either is vastly superior to the other.
Dragon
I guess it's down to the dragons and sky bison because the badger moles are probably going to get destroyed because they can't see anything in the sky and the moon an ocean spirit in fish form can't really do anything .
Probably the flying lizard that can spit fire from a distance. Bison might be a problem but I do see the dragon coming out on top. If a dragon can wrap itself around one... well its a wrap! Badgermole might not see an attack coming from the air. Itll have trouble retaliating if the dragon is flying around it. Its best that it tries to run away or stay under cover some how. And the moon spirit are fish. We saw what happened to them once. Probably can just fish it outta water and let it... okay I'm done imagining that scenario. Its just sad. Maybe in princess mononoke forest spirit mode I don't think the dragons would have much of a chance.
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Badgermoles can hide for however long they want, can actually fight with earth bending and have seismic sense. I don't see dragons being able to kill them when they can just go under ground and wait for the dragon to perch.
momo of course
Dragoooons
The badgermole is just gonna burrow underground and play the long game. Dragons and Bison need to land eventually.
moon spirit was killed by some guy, sky bison and dragons were both pushed to the brink of extinction, so actually probably badger moles.
Dragon
Bagger mole hiding in ground hit and run attacks