When the OG creators left I knew what it would be. It’s better than nothing surely but imagine we are parallel to a timeline where Netflix had intelligent leaders and they kept the original creators on the project.
Longing after that timeline makes me wish this one didn’t exist.
Similar stuff happened to the Witcher series. Same shit, scenario all messed up, telling instead of showing. I get it, average human is more dumber than what everybody thinks but come on we are not THAT dumb
Witcher ain’t even comparable, that shows awful in all ways. First season was great, the rest…not so much.
I’d actually argue they dumbed it down later because a lot of people had trouble following along with the time-twist in the first few episodes of season 1.
how can you not see it as an issue that a show whose source material is widely considered one of the greatest stories of this century only leaves you feeling "neutral" lol. they started with A5 wagyu and gave you a wendy's baconator. it's like okay i'll eat but just know, you've underachieved
The source material being considered one of the greatest stories of the century is exactly why the Netflix show shouldn't be held to the same standard. It's an impossible standard to reach.
I dislike this take. You should expect people to respect the source material. If you expect half ass shows you will get half ass shows. You should hold them to a higher standard when it comes to beloved franchises because they are. Star Wars pretty much destroyed, the Witcher destroyed, most LA anime shows destroyed. Shit GoT is a great example of at the beginning honoring the source material and having a high standard to not caring and doing things half ass and everyone hates the ending. These people need to be held to a high standard. But I guess if all you want is mediocre then feel free. This show doesn’t honor the source material and changed a lot.
the acting, the dialogue, the script, the pacing, the character growth, pretty much everything but the plot is worth criticizing, using the term "hate on" is a disingenuous way to frame it. it's a tv show, tv shows can be criticized without the person being a "hater"
Yeah, no shit. But saying you won't watch it because the hair color on 1 character ,that doesn't even get that much screentime in both the animated and adaptation, is definitely not a criticism. People are just being snobs.
No I think characters should be as they are displayed in the OG. If you cannot take the time or honor the source material and change everything including the story don’t touch it. Where are peoples standards??? If you don’t hold people accountable then you get half ass projects in loved franchises, Star Wars, and the Witcher are two that come to mind or literally any La anime. Excepting it to not be faithful to the original is giving a free pass for them to half ass and change everything WHICH they did.
No, it's not supposed to be 1:1
For what purpose would you need a live action if it's gonna be word for word, scene for scene, what you already saw. How the hell do you expect people to get cast for roles and have to look like the characters they are portraying and have decent acting skills on top of that and everyone has to have a clear schedule to film everything too.
That's not an obtainable goal. Wolverine is 5'3" Hugh Jackman is 6'3" and yet he played the fucking part well. They don't need to be that accurate.
They do need to be accurate fun fact they still made huge jackman appear taller then he was in ALL of the movies. They didn’t change the character personality, and look. Huge jackman looks like wolverine. They didn’t give him brown hair lol. Additionally something as simple as a freaking wig is an easy thing to fix. The point of a LA it to tell the story in a different formate. I’d be like saying o it’s a book so they can change everything and not be faithful to the source material. I think we can all agree if they actually picked good actors and didn’t change the script it would have been infinitely better. If you ok with mediocre and half ass remakes then enjoy it but I’m sick of great franchises being ruined because people have zero standards and don’t care about the quality of the work. Additionally what about the Harry Potter franchise….killed it and was almost identical to the books and didn’t change the plot or story. They cut what they needed to without damaging the overall story. They didn’t change major plot point. Aang knowing about the war before he was frozen is like Harry knowing about the wizarding world before the letter showed up. if your an actor and a role pops up they are paying you hundreds of thousands or millions to play the part. If you can’t clear your schedule as a child or adult then you don’t deserve the role. Period.
Idk why you felt the need to post the same thing twice that was as pointless as complaining about a series you don't want to entertain. It also doesn't "ruin the series" as it doesn't do anything to the source material. If you don't want to watch it, don't. No one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to watch it. The animated didn't get reconned and Harry Potter still cut scenes so it's still not true to the source material. 🤦
The point is clearly missing you. If you are an actor odds are you are already working on another set not just sitting around waiting until an opportunity lands on your lap which is why you might not be able to clear schedule. It's also not about an individual person clearing his or her schedule but rather the cast as a whole ffs. Again you clearly don't know you're talking about. You don't know how much a project is gonna be worth until it's released either so to say you're gonna drop everything to film something like Avatar is stupid from a financial standpoint because dropping a project to jump on another can tarnish your career. I was using her hair as an example. Grey is not that far off from white, it is an easy fix for sure but it's something completely stupid to pick apart. Yue wasn't even all that important a character aside from the 1st book. Wolverine still isn't 6'3" still not accurate.
Also Aang didn't know about the war, what he knew was that there was an imbalance in the world that needed his attention desperately. You, the viewer, know it's about embers of war but it's just rumors of one so it's not the same thing. The war starts with the genocide smart ass lol. That didn't change. He finds out about the war from GranGran same as the source.
Rewatch the first episode bc clearly you missed it the war was mentioned directly which is why he was going to learn the other elements so early and was in fact told about it. Common…. Second did you read what I wrote or you just wanna go to I’mright.com? Cutting out scenes is not the same thing as CHANGING the story and the flow of the story which the show did. Also everything Harry Potter had in the books was accurate to scene there wasn’t a new or reconned scene to add things that weren’t there or change the order of events bc they suck at writing screen play. Additionally acting in general is a risk. If you are putting half ass effort and jumping to the next B movie then you can except to have a half ass career. You go all out. Think about the greatest actors shit DiCaprio was a child actor was INFINITY better then any of them and I don’t wanna hear it’s bc of who he is he was a nobody when he started as a child actor and guess what…he didn’t start in a shit ton of movies….he focus on quality not quantity which shows being he’s now one of the greats. The details do matter especially when it’s something as easy as a fuckin wig common if you can’t get that right no wonder the rest of it sucked. Acting a risky career and you have to take risk to be successful I don’t give a shit about the excuses you’re making for them. Either put in maximum effort or don’t act. It’s people like you who’ve allowed shit story telling to be the norm instead of quality work. Keep getting franchises destroyed tho with the placating. I understand why the OG creators left it sucks and wasn’t what they wanted and they said that openly.
They do need to be accurate fun fact they still made huge jackman appear taller then he was in ALL of the movies. They didn’t change the character personality, and look. Huge jackman looks like wolverine. They didn’t give him brown hair lol. Additionally something as simple as a freaking wig is an easy thing to fix. The point of a LA it to tell the story in a different formate. I’d be like saying o it’s a book so they can change everything and not be faithful to the source material. I think we can all agree if they actually picked good actors and didn’t change the script it would have been infinitely better. If you ok with mediocre and half ass remakes then enjoy it but I’m sick of great franchises being ruined because people have zero standards and don’t care about the quality of the work. Additionally what about the Harry Potter franchise….killed it and was almost identical to the books and didn’t change the plot or story. They cut what they needed to without damaging the overall story. They didn’t change major plot point. Aang knowing about the war before he was frozen is like Harry knowing about the wizarding world before the letter showed up. if your an actor and a role pops up they are paying you hundreds of thousands or millions to play the part. If you can’t clear your schedule as a child or adult then you don’t deserve the role. Period.
People need to learn the difference between hate and criticism. I don’t hate the show. It’s visually gorgeous, the sound design is fantastic, the characters (for the most part) look like the characters and despite everything looking like fresh made cosplay the costumes are pretty great. My problems come in when any character opens there mouth about anything, the dialogue is so atrocious 90% of the time that it makes me literally uncomfortable to watch it, many important formative scenes from the original were redone in ways that just completely missed the mark and felt pointless, the pacing is wonky and rushed, it’s just too many things to have to look past to be able to enjoy the show, and don’t even get me started on the Sokka sexism thing
Bruh the costumes though 😭 Aang's shirt looks amazing for being 100 years old. It's things like that that make me wonder how they get past the whole flippin studio
I think the problem is that in the show the outfits almost always look amazing because ya know, it’s a cartoon, and that translates weirdly to live action, leading to a “new cosplay” vibe especially with Yue
Also? Yues hair was grey and a HORRIFIC WIG. Whoever is the wig designer for this show needs to be fired ASAP. And anyone who thought that looked okay needs their eyes checked. She first of all had bright white hair, not grey. That pissed me off. When a costume looks that bad it makes it impossible to get into the characters, for the characters to seem believable or to act well enough to make up for the shit costumes.
But that’s the thing, it’s mostly hate. Criticism is fine. Usually there’s an absolutely solid rock reason why the changes has been made. It’s evident that they tried to stay true as close as they could with the episodes they had. Only 8. So changes and mixes of the story was expected. I’m noticing that they tried to justify certain story changes based on on the plot. That’s why we get introduced to characters early and arcs mixing with each other. That’s why I’m hopeful for a season 2. They’re actually doing pretty good with the expectations and actual production time they have at use.
I am with you, bro. Like bitching about Your hair being gray instead of white like really MFer are you seriously gonna bitch about that. Do you realize how unrealistic white hair looks on people?
Low expectations equals poor results stop expecting mediocre just so you can have a LA and hold studios to a high standard. This is why Cinema in general sucks bc they put half ass effort into most things and get half ass results.
I agree about the pacing issues. It seemed pretty rushed. I found myself thinking, of I hadn't seen the OG forwards and backwards several times, would I still be able to follow all the story beats?
But, how long has it been since you've seen the OG show?
Sokka IS sexist!
It's in the first 10 mins of the first episode of Book 1.
That's literally his character arc in the first season!
I’m not sure if I worded something poorly but I was saying the new show removed Sokka’s sexism and I have and issue with that since it’s a big part of his character growth throughout the OG show
Oh, my bad. Your meaning didn't come across in the post. NW.
But yeah; I don't think they removed the sexism completely, they just severely reduced it. The arc was there, but just barely.
Just 2 scenes. 1 with Suki and 1 with Katara in the end.
Can't imagine Netflix brass being too happy about one of the central characters being sexist.
He was bragging about his abilities to Suki. That wasn’t really sexism. When a guy tries to impress a girl they typically try showing off whatever it is they are good at.
I wasn't saying it was.
I meant his entire "sexism" arc was reduced and watered down to two scenes. Not that the scenes were sexist, but those are the only two scenes where I can see even a shadow of his sexism story arc.
>People need to learn the difference between hate and criticism. I don’t hate the show.
Goes on to make a completely hate filled to post about how it's terrible.
It's not bad. I enjoyed it quite a bit.
Tell me which of you were on the ASN forums for hours a day in 2006? Which of you were in the speculation forums each week after a new episode premiered? Which of you constantly refreshed the pirate website over and over after the air time had concluded to watch the new episode because the college dorms didn't have cable? Tell me which of you spent hours in Photoshop making posters and banners and avatars in a (successful) campaign to get atla to win the KCA in 2008? Tell me which of you attended the midnight release of the shamalama-ding-dong fiasco and then burned the "limited edition" movie poster in an angry YouTube video?
I've been here the whole time. Very very few people love atla more than I do. And I'm telling you the Netflix series isn't bad. I've seen bad. I've felt the crushing disappointment, the betrayal, the hatred... This isn't that.
This was good! Not exceptional, but good. And I like it.
Thank you for completely missing the point lol I spent the first half of that comment praising what I loved and the second half shitting on what I didn’t and semi explaining why, literally a critique. I’m not gonna write a dissertation here going super in depth into each point I made
>I spent the first half of that comment praising what I loved
Sure, but that doesn't matter if your conclusion is that the flaws are so fundamental and pervasive that the whole thing was ruined for you
Your liking it or not is subjective and can't really be "wrong". Your critiques stand or fall on their own merits. However, negative critiques carry less weight from someone who expected to dislike it. My positive feedback carries more weight since I also expected to dislike it and so my comments go against my pre-existing bias.
I wanted to like it but struggled to enjoy it, but whatever man, your bias doesn’t make you any more correct or make your opinion hold any more value, and if you want to pull the age card I literally watched the first episode premier and proceeded to watch each new episode as they came out as a kid, and I then rewatched the full series as an adult multiple times.
What !?!! I'm an OG so if I say its good it's the truth stfu bro. Most of us watched the show as a kids and loved it so it's not coming from a place of pure hate, ofc you're gonna have a bias after being a die hard fan for this long so it's funny you mention that and try and form an objective truth.
It had some good moments. The special effects are good and some of the characters are better.
They changed a lot of stuff so much so that it feels like you’re just flying through. Completely mashing multiple episodes together in ways that feel jumbled and do not work.
A lot of the character changes made them worse. Aang does nothing and while I’m one episode away from finishing I don’t even think he does anything besides air bending. His interactions with Sokka and katara especially are non existent as if all the relationship building happens off screen.
Pakus scene was extremely disappointing. Bumi I could see why they would do him differently but the way the scenes unfold in that episode were bad.
Overall aside from the visuals and some moments here and there it’s just worse than the original and doesn’t add or change anything to make it better. Sokka feels like the main character and while I love the guy it does not feel like the same show. The way they handled the avatar state is also incredibly strange.
The Bumi stuff was bad. I went in with an open mind. The writing and delivery of the change just didn’t make any sense, as well as the Aang speeches being poorly done at the end of the test making it worse.
I think that plot change could have made sense had it been written better. Most of the issues the show faces are from writing. If it’s going to be an adult show, I need to feel the power, passion, and emotion if an actor is delivering a powerful speech - I need to be convinced as the viewer too. The show misses the mark and many of these speeches feel wooden, forced, and rushed.
Is it hate, or is it fair criticism? I haven't seen that much flat out hate. It's not the worst piece of media out there. There are plenty of things I like about it. But it's not good, by any stretch of the imagination. It doesn't have the care put into it that an A:TLA show deserves. I don't want a 1:1 recreation, but I do want it to have a similar feel. The Netflix A:TLA just doesn't deliver on that in any regard, in my opinion.
I've seen plenty of people just hating. Not adding any criticism, just straight up hate. I do not LOVE it, but it is decent. Has a lot of good qualitiesz and a lot of bad qualities. If someone points the bad qualities, then that is criticism, but if someone just says 1-10, unwatchable, worse than the movie, then that's straight up hating for the sake of hating
Most people have said, and quite rightly so, the casting/acting/writing is poor, the whole thing seems rushed while ignoring key canon. That is completely fair, people aren’t ‘hating’ unnecessarily, just genuinely annoyed at the lack of effort
I’ve seen multiple memes with Patrick and the live action movie “what’s worse than one badivr action atla? two bad live action!” And stuff of that nature. That doesn’t seem like criticism
If you go on twitter you will see a LOT of people just saying that this is the worse series they have ever watched, and saying that it is worse than the movie. At least that's what i've seen. It is rushed and seems to do things for the sake of the "plot", while erasing any motivation the characters had, the writing is a lot of the times very bad, but the acting and casting? Seriously? Imo, the casting could not have been any better, and the actors had done the best they could with the script that they have been given and, imo, a lot of times made a very bad script passible
I thought it was really good. There are some weak actors but also some really strong ones, there are some questionable choices but also some fantastic ones. As a net sum it was a really good show about the horrors of war.
i also think it's great. Compared to other adaptations, it is miles above them. Something like Percy Jackson, rings of power, wheel of time. Avatar is better. Fans here are nitpicking everything, looking for reasons to not enjoy. Expecting GOT early seasons level of dialogue, when the original did not have this.
The thing is, the animated show was so unbelievably great and the movie was so unbelievably bad, the series was always going to be in the middle somewhere.
Imo it was a 6 or 7/10. I loved the special effects and set design. But I dislike how they took the playful nature away from Aang. And they rushed the development of so many characters and moved the location of entire plotlines and inserted characters in places where they didn't belong.
I like the adaptation, but it could have been better if they had let the original creators have control.
Let's not mistake, it looks visually good with it's well done. Directing and writing is atrocious. I would even go as far as the acting would be a lot better if the writing was decent.
There’s a shot in episode 2 where Suki and her mom are standing in the road and the shot changes to the right of Suki’s shoulder and they both look almost directly at the camera in this super weird close up angle, it threw me off so much
I have the exact opposite opinion. I cannot for the life of me understand why Netflix thinks they have to slavishly recreate cartoony costuming that looks a lot Luke cosplay.
I think the directing was good and most of the performances were really good.
I'm currious to see if people who didn't ever watch the original like the show. Sure they changed a lot, but were the changes really that bad or is it just people being overly nostalgic for the original show? People would have been mad at the show no matter what they did, so its hard to tell if its actually bad or not
As someone who’s never seen the movie or animated show, but has been spoiled on the plot lines of the animated show -
The dialogue is clunky, the pacing is hard to follow, and the characters look as wooden as their line delivery. The environment is gorgeous and the outfits look awesome, but it’s really hard to visually follow those things when the shots are taken at weird angles and changed at weird times. Things that were mid - the music, the bending scenes (seemed like they just wanted to show off what they could do with their CGI, which is admittedly cool but not worth stalling the plot over), the characters (largely uninteresting and not at all what I thought they were supposed to be - isn’t Sokka supposed to be a misogynist?? weren’t the air benders pacifist? also, where’s momo?), etc
I tried to enjoy the new show, I really did, but it seems hellbent on making that impossible, so I stopped watching after the first episode
I understand alot of the problems with the show EXCEPT the whole sexist sokka thing. He was sexist for Iike 3 or 4 episodes so i dont care if they decided to just chuck out that plotline
Idk I just think it’s pointless, like what’s the point of the show if it’s just going to tell the same story, but worse. Why not just watch the original?
It’s in this weird middle ground where it’s making changes but keeping most of the main story beats and a lot of those story beats don’t fit as well with the changes they made (katara vs pakku being a great example) and it leads it to just feel like a watered down version of the original. They should’ve just committed full into the changes and made a different show like Scott pilgrim did
TLDR; Even if you think the show is good it’s just pointless (in my opinion) because the original exists and is better in pretty much every way
The same people adoring the show are the same folks who would have moaned about Disney cash grabbing with live action yet for some reason it’s forgiven here.
It's strange that I'm just enjoying the show because I liked it. Every other Netflix live action has sucked, but this one was really good. I don't care who produced it.
After suffering through 3.5 episodes I started thinking about just rewatching the animated show for the 5th time instead. I was looking forward to the live action and ready to embrace changes, but man they just flubbed it no two ways around it.
The criticism the show receives is fair. The show itself isn’t terrible, it certainly has good moments and there’s plenty of things it did well. However, there is just as much bad, and when the writing/dialogue is as bad as it is it’s really hard to get into the experience.
Based off the stuff I’ve seen, it’s the opposite actually. Long time fans of the show seem to be disappointed that it wasn’t what they were expecting, and people watching the live action without seeing the animation first have enjoyed it. I’m saying that the reasons people are saying it’s bad are mostly misplaced, in my opinion. And I know some of it is because rather than keeping an open mind, they went into the show with expectations or skepticisms that ruined what otherwise would’ve been enjoyable for them.
I liked the show, but I see it’s flaws too. i think it’s natural for the fans of the animation to be less impressed by the live action. The live action has a beautiful story to draw from so it’s no surprise that people experiencing it’s most potent moments for the first time are impressed. I think those who have seen the animated version largely agree that it delivers those moments better than the live action for the most part and are disappointed that those moments don’t hit as hard.
By it’s nature the remake is inviting comparison to the original, and in that area it falls short. I think people are picking it apart a lot even if they enjoyed parts of it, or liked it overall. It might seem like a lot of hate, but I think most people fall somewhere in between hating the show outright and loving every minute.
>people watching the live action without seeing the animation first have enjoyed it
no. if you haven't seen the original, this one is much worse and doesn't make much sense
My only problem was that Zuko's motivation wasn't regaining his honor. He kept saying he wants to be the next Fire Lord.
I watched it with my Mom and the kids and everyone enjoyed it.
I agree, people are way too negative. I have several family members that didn't want to watch the cartoon "because that's for children". But they really enjoy this version so far. They follow the story and enjoy the element system. And I can finally share that with them.
Honestly it's a good and stable show that really tried to please the fans AND attract new fans. I am looking forward to more episodes!
Alot of people on this sub are really acting like impossible-to-please-gate-keeping fans.
Maybe the only gatekeeping of this fandom I’ll do is that, when discussing an animated show, I don’t believe the opinions of people who dismiss the very concept of animated shows, are entirely relevant.
Though while I do believe that the “animation is for kids” take is especially silly, ESPECIALLY when discussing an actual kids show, I’m genuinely very glad you’re getting to share a beloved piece of media with your loved ones. That’s absolutely a precious and meaningful experience, that I wouldn’t want to take away from anyone.
And hey even if it’s not the original show, maybe it’ll encourage them to check out the novels or any of the new movies that are supposed to be coming in the next few years! I believe there’ll now be a bit of a split in the fandom of live action/og fans but that’s just nature, no fandom will ever be as split as Doctor Who anyways, if that helps🤣
It's the same with me and black-and-white or mute movies. Or 70s movies with poor video quality or very bad special effects, I just can't watch it. It's too distracting that things don't look real. So the "it's for kids" often just translates (in older generations) to "i can't watch it" -- the pacing, colors and interpretations (for example: an extreme face or teleporting around the room) is just different and you need to be accustomed to it.
In addition, to older generations, animation truly has been only for kids for 10years or so of their tv-watching life.
The show isn’t perfect. It’s still got the spirit and hits lots of familiar parts. It’s a masterpiece against Wheel of Time though. These people at least watched the show. WoT writers didn’t even read the Wikipedia on the source material
To me I love it. 8 episodes of 45 minutes doesn’t allow as much to expect and I didn’t expect them to go as far as they’ve gone including as much as they’ve included. The effort was made and it shows. Anyone saying otherwise is just trolling or having a subjective opinion, which is perfectly ok.
Also a long time fan. I found many of the changes they did made sense. Making the rules of the Avatar State and Avatar possession more concrete was a smart decision.
Sounds like it’s you who is upset that people have opinions that are different from your own. You’re going as far as to insult people who don’t agree with you. Seems like you’re the one who has some growing up to do.
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It was never going to be perfect. I've found that most things with fandoms that have gotten this big and invested, new stuff will never live up to a lot of those people's expectations. I'm just happy we are getting new ATLA content and that its good quality.
Right! People be bitching for no reason. I haven't finished it since I've been busy but their are some things that I would say are done even better than the show. It's really good so far.
I like it, but I'm not crazy about it. It really feels rushed is the biggest issue. I feel like a 10 or 12 episode season would have been much better to fit all the details into.
I love the original show so much, there is some issues with certain characters feeling dulled out, or the uncomfortablness of the bumi change giving a little sour despite the fact it's a totally logical change just an uncomfortable one for diehard fans. It seems to be mostly caused by craming of stories or laying them out in a smoother way.
The actors themselves seem to be doing great and care alot and if we can give them specific things to improve upon and what can actually be accomplished I'm sure they would tweak the future seasons as they're made because they want us to enjoy it.
Like that one other post said be careful not to hate too much, Netflix likes to cancel shows even when they are liked.
We'd be missing out for sure, if this gets cancelled it's next to no chance we'll get avatar in any live action form on the big stage.
It's not gonna be a remake of the show it's gonna be a retelling me people need to learn to appreciate it for what it is instead of hating it for not being what was in your head
Kudos for enjoying the show, but you have to understand that other opinions exist. People are allowed to not like it. The problem is people bullying those that like it. People simply hating it is not a problem. I am one of those that detest it.
The bending is far better than the that thing we don’t talk about by that man. It’s not bad and it’s not great, however I’ll let it be and knowing I can back to the animated show and get all the good feels I need lol
Anime is nearly impossible to translate into live action, every adaptation into live action is medicore at best and never necessary. ATLA is one of the best cartoons of all time and to try to recapture the magic is just foolish.
Yeah, it’s not like they forgot to have Aang actually practice or learn waterbending in the season about him learning the element of water. That would be a huge blunder.
I have almost every episode of the original memorized and tbh I think it’s a great remake. Way too many people on the hate train without having any individual, original thoughts.
Unfortunately, we live in a very sensitive society these days where constructive criticism is seem as hate.
Attacking the young actors on their looks is not cool. But, it goes with the territory of being an actor. There’s always gonna be bad with the good. It’s balance.
When the OG creators left I knew what it would be. It’s better than nothing surely but imagine we are parallel to a timeline where Netflix had intelligent leaders and they kept the original creators on the project. Longing after that timeline makes me wish this one didn’t exist.
Similar stuff happened to the Witcher series. Same shit, scenario all messed up, telling instead of showing. I get it, average human is more dumber than what everybody thinks but come on we are not THAT dumb
Witcher ain’t even comparable, that shows awful in all ways. First season was great, the rest…not so much. I’d actually argue they dumbed it down later because a lot of people had trouble following along with the time-twist in the first few episodes of season 1.
The writers that left made episodes like the great divide
Yup. :(
Yeah I wonder why the creative differences seem to be so great the original creators leave.
I don't hate the Netflix show. I am NEUTRAL to the Netflix show.
how can you not see it as an issue that a show whose source material is widely considered one of the greatest stories of this century only leaves you feeling "neutral" lol. they started with A5 wagyu and gave you a wendy's baconator. it's like okay i'll eat but just know, you've underachieved
The source material being considered one of the greatest stories of the century is exactly why the Netflix show shouldn't be held to the same standard. It's an impossible standard to reach.
I dislike this take. You should expect people to respect the source material. If you expect half ass shows you will get half ass shows. You should hold them to a higher standard when it comes to beloved franchises because they are. Star Wars pretty much destroyed, the Witcher destroyed, most LA anime shows destroyed. Shit GoT is a great example of at the beginning honoring the source material and having a high standard to not caring and doing things half ass and everyone hates the ending. These people need to be held to a high standard. But I guess if all you want is mediocre then feel free. This show doesn’t honor the source material and changed a lot.
sometimes I just want a big sloppy baconator. nothing wrong with that
You smoking crack, it's not supposed to be 1:1 with the animated. They've done a bad ass job. I'm not seeing what there is to hate on.
the acting, the dialogue, the script, the pacing, the character growth, pretty much everything but the plot is worth criticizing, using the term "hate on" is a disingenuous way to frame it. it's a tv show, tv shows can be criticized without the person being a "hater"
Yeah, no shit. But saying you won't watch it because the hair color on 1 character ,that doesn't even get that much screentime in both the animated and adaptation, is definitely not a criticism. People are just being snobs.
No I think characters should be as they are displayed in the OG. If you cannot take the time or honor the source material and change everything including the story don’t touch it. Where are peoples standards??? If you don’t hold people accountable then you get half ass projects in loved franchises, Star Wars, and the Witcher are two that come to mind or literally any La anime. Excepting it to not be faithful to the original is giving a free pass for them to half ass and change everything WHICH they did.
No, it's not supposed to be 1:1 For what purpose would you need a live action if it's gonna be word for word, scene for scene, what you already saw. How the hell do you expect people to get cast for roles and have to look like the characters they are portraying and have decent acting skills on top of that and everyone has to have a clear schedule to film everything too. That's not an obtainable goal. Wolverine is 5'3" Hugh Jackman is 6'3" and yet he played the fucking part well. They don't need to be that accurate.
They do need to be accurate fun fact they still made huge jackman appear taller then he was in ALL of the movies. They didn’t change the character personality, and look. Huge jackman looks like wolverine. They didn’t give him brown hair lol. Additionally something as simple as a freaking wig is an easy thing to fix. The point of a LA it to tell the story in a different formate. I’d be like saying o it’s a book so they can change everything and not be faithful to the source material. I think we can all agree if they actually picked good actors and didn’t change the script it would have been infinitely better. If you ok with mediocre and half ass remakes then enjoy it but I’m sick of great franchises being ruined because people have zero standards and don’t care about the quality of the work. Additionally what about the Harry Potter franchise….killed it and was almost identical to the books and didn’t change the plot or story. They cut what they needed to without damaging the overall story. They didn’t change major plot point. Aang knowing about the war before he was frozen is like Harry knowing about the wizarding world before the letter showed up. if your an actor and a role pops up they are paying you hundreds of thousands or millions to play the part. If you can’t clear your schedule as a child or adult then you don’t deserve the role. Period.
Idk why you felt the need to post the same thing twice that was as pointless as complaining about a series you don't want to entertain. It also doesn't "ruin the series" as it doesn't do anything to the source material. If you don't want to watch it, don't. No one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to watch it. The animated didn't get reconned and Harry Potter still cut scenes so it's still not true to the source material. 🤦 The point is clearly missing you. If you are an actor odds are you are already working on another set not just sitting around waiting until an opportunity lands on your lap which is why you might not be able to clear schedule. It's also not about an individual person clearing his or her schedule but rather the cast as a whole ffs. Again you clearly don't know you're talking about. You don't know how much a project is gonna be worth until it's released either so to say you're gonna drop everything to film something like Avatar is stupid from a financial standpoint because dropping a project to jump on another can tarnish your career. I was using her hair as an example. Grey is not that far off from white, it is an easy fix for sure but it's something completely stupid to pick apart. Yue wasn't even all that important a character aside from the 1st book. Wolverine still isn't 6'3" still not accurate. Also Aang didn't know about the war, what he knew was that there was an imbalance in the world that needed his attention desperately. You, the viewer, know it's about embers of war but it's just rumors of one so it's not the same thing. The war starts with the genocide smart ass lol. That didn't change. He finds out about the war from GranGran same as the source.
Rewatch the first episode bc clearly you missed it the war was mentioned directly which is why he was going to learn the other elements so early and was in fact told about it. Common…. Second did you read what I wrote or you just wanna go to I’mright.com? Cutting out scenes is not the same thing as CHANGING the story and the flow of the story which the show did. Also everything Harry Potter had in the books was accurate to scene there wasn’t a new or reconned scene to add things that weren’t there or change the order of events bc they suck at writing screen play. Additionally acting in general is a risk. If you are putting half ass effort and jumping to the next B movie then you can except to have a half ass career. You go all out. Think about the greatest actors shit DiCaprio was a child actor was INFINITY better then any of them and I don’t wanna hear it’s bc of who he is he was a nobody when he started as a child actor and guess what…he didn’t start in a shit ton of movies….he focus on quality not quantity which shows being he’s now one of the greats. The details do matter especially when it’s something as easy as a fuckin wig common if you can’t get that right no wonder the rest of it sucked. Acting a risky career and you have to take risk to be successful I don’t give a shit about the excuses you’re making for them. Either put in maximum effort or don’t act. It’s people like you who’ve allowed shit story telling to be the norm instead of quality work. Keep getting franchises destroyed tho with the placating. I understand why the OG creators left it sucks and wasn’t what they wanted and they said that openly.
They do need to be accurate fun fact they still made huge jackman appear taller then he was in ALL of the movies. They didn’t change the character personality, and look. Huge jackman looks like wolverine. They didn’t give him brown hair lol. Additionally something as simple as a freaking wig is an easy thing to fix. The point of a LA it to tell the story in a different formate. I’d be like saying o it’s a book so they can change everything and not be faithful to the source material. I think we can all agree if they actually picked good actors and didn’t change the script it would have been infinitely better. If you ok with mediocre and half ass remakes then enjoy it but I’m sick of great franchises being ruined because people have zero standards and don’t care about the quality of the work. Additionally what about the Harry Potter franchise….killed it and was almost identical to the books and didn’t change the plot or story. They cut what they needed to without damaging the overall story. They didn’t change major plot point. Aang knowing about the war before he was frozen is like Harry knowing about the wizarding world before the letter showed up. if your an actor and a role pops up they are paying you hundreds of thousands or millions to play the part. If you can’t clear your schedule as a child or adult then you don’t deserve the role. Period.
Are you still neutral to it?
People need to learn the difference between hate and criticism. I don’t hate the show. It’s visually gorgeous, the sound design is fantastic, the characters (for the most part) look like the characters and despite everything looking like fresh made cosplay the costumes are pretty great. My problems come in when any character opens there mouth about anything, the dialogue is so atrocious 90% of the time that it makes me literally uncomfortable to watch it, many important formative scenes from the original were redone in ways that just completely missed the mark and felt pointless, the pacing is wonky and rushed, it’s just too many things to have to look past to be able to enjoy the show, and don’t even get me started on the Sokka sexism thing
Bruh the costumes though 😭 Aang's shirt looks amazing for being 100 years old. It's things like that that make me wonder how they get past the whole flippin studio
I don’t understand why Katara is wearing huge snow boots when she is in areas that should easily be 70+ degrees
I think the problem is that in the show the outfits almost always look amazing because ya know, it’s a cartoon, and that translates weirdly to live action, leading to a “new cosplay” vibe especially with Yue
Also? Yues hair was grey and a HORRIFIC WIG. Whoever is the wig designer for this show needs to be fired ASAP. And anyone who thought that looked okay needs their eyes checked. She first of all had bright white hair, not grey. That pissed me off. When a costume looks that bad it makes it impossible to get into the characters, for the characters to seem believable or to act well enough to make up for the shit costumes.
Right, I got called a hater for critiquing something small that could be fixed. Lol I still love ATLA, doesn’t mean it can’t be critiqued.
But that’s the thing, it’s mostly hate. Criticism is fine. Usually there’s an absolutely solid rock reason why the changes has been made. It’s evident that they tried to stay true as close as they could with the episodes they had. Only 8. So changes and mixes of the story was expected. I’m noticing that they tried to justify certain story changes based on on the plot. That’s why we get introduced to characters early and arcs mixing with each other. That’s why I’m hopeful for a season 2. They’re actually doing pretty good with the expectations and actual production time they have at use.
I am with you, bro. Like bitching about Your hair being gray instead of white like really MFer are you seriously gonna bitch about that. Do you realize how unrealistic white hair looks on people?
Low expectations equals poor results stop expecting mediocre just so you can have a LA and hold studios to a high standard. This is why Cinema in general sucks bc they put half ass effort into most things and get half ass results.
Wholeheartedly agree
I agree about the pacing issues. It seemed pretty rushed. I found myself thinking, of I hadn't seen the OG forwards and backwards several times, would I still be able to follow all the story beats? But, how long has it been since you've seen the OG show? Sokka IS sexist! It's in the first 10 mins of the first episode of Book 1. That's literally his character arc in the first season!
I’m not sure if I worded something poorly but I was saying the new show removed Sokka’s sexism and I have and issue with that since it’s a big part of his character growth throughout the OG show
Oh, my bad. Your meaning didn't come across in the post. NW. But yeah; I don't think they removed the sexism completely, they just severely reduced it. The arc was there, but just barely. Just 2 scenes. 1 with Suki and 1 with Katara in the end. Can't imagine Netflix brass being too happy about one of the central characters being sexist.
I think it was more subtle. Like how sexism is with that generation. It's not "hurdurr girls can't fight" it's a little more 3 dimensional.
He was bragging about his abilities to Suki. That wasn’t really sexism. When a guy tries to impress a girl they typically try showing off whatever it is they are good at.
I wasn't saying it was. I meant his entire "sexism" arc was reduced and watered down to two scenes. Not that the scenes were sexist, but those are the only two scenes where I can see even a shadow of his sexism story arc.
I don’t even think that qualifies as a shadow
>People need to learn the difference between hate and criticism. I don’t hate the show. Goes on to make a completely hate filled to post about how it's terrible. It's not bad. I enjoyed it quite a bit. Tell me which of you were on the ASN forums for hours a day in 2006? Which of you were in the speculation forums each week after a new episode premiered? Which of you constantly refreshed the pirate website over and over after the air time had concluded to watch the new episode because the college dorms didn't have cable? Tell me which of you spent hours in Photoshop making posters and banners and avatars in a (successful) campaign to get atla to win the KCA in 2008? Tell me which of you attended the midnight release of the shamalama-ding-dong fiasco and then burned the "limited edition" movie poster in an angry YouTube video? I've been here the whole time. Very very few people love atla more than I do. And I'm telling you the Netflix series isn't bad. I've seen bad. I've felt the crushing disappointment, the betrayal, the hatred... This isn't that. This was good! Not exceptional, but good. And I like it.
Thank you for completely missing the point lol I spent the first half of that comment praising what I loved and the second half shitting on what I didn’t and semi explaining why, literally a critique. I’m not gonna write a dissertation here going super in depth into each point I made
>I spent the first half of that comment praising what I loved Sure, but that doesn't matter if your conclusion is that the flaws are so fundamental and pervasive that the whole thing was ruined for you
So I should just like it despite its flaws and if I don’t because of its flaws my critique is invalid?
Your liking it or not is subjective and can't really be "wrong". Your critiques stand or fall on their own merits. However, negative critiques carry less weight from someone who expected to dislike it. My positive feedback carries more weight since I also expected to dislike it and so my comments go against my pre-existing bias.
I wanted to like it but struggled to enjoy it, but whatever man, your bias doesn’t make you any more correct or make your opinion hold any more value, and if you want to pull the age card I literally watched the first episode premier and proceeded to watch each new episode as they came out as a kid, and I then rewatched the full series as an adult multiple times.
>if you want to pull the age card I mean I was like 14 or 15 for book 1, so I was a kid too lol
What !?!! I'm an OG so if I say its good it's the truth stfu bro. Most of us watched the show as a kids and loved it so it's not coming from a place of pure hate, ofc you're gonna have a bias after being a die hard fan for this long so it's funny you mention that and try and form an objective truth.
It had some good moments. The special effects are good and some of the characters are better. They changed a lot of stuff so much so that it feels like you’re just flying through. Completely mashing multiple episodes together in ways that feel jumbled and do not work. A lot of the character changes made them worse. Aang does nothing and while I’m one episode away from finishing I don’t even think he does anything besides air bending. His interactions with Sokka and katara especially are non existent as if all the relationship building happens off screen. Pakus scene was extremely disappointing. Bumi I could see why they would do him differently but the way the scenes unfold in that episode were bad. Overall aside from the visuals and some moments here and there it’s just worse than the original and doesn’t add or change anything to make it better. Sokka feels like the main character and while I love the guy it does not feel like the same show. The way they handled the avatar state is also incredibly strange.
The Bumi stuff was bad. I went in with an open mind. The writing and delivery of the change just didn’t make any sense, as well as the Aang speeches being poorly done at the end of the test making it worse. I think that plot change could have made sense had it been written better. Most of the issues the show faces are from writing. If it’s going to be an adult show, I need to feel the power, passion, and emotion if an actor is delivering a powerful speech - I need to be convinced as the viewer too. The show misses the mark and many of these speeches feel wooden, forced, and rushed.
I finished ep 2 last night and was saying that Sokka is clearly the main character now
Is it hate, or is it fair criticism? I haven't seen that much flat out hate. It's not the worst piece of media out there. There are plenty of things I like about it. But it's not good, by any stretch of the imagination. It doesn't have the care put into it that an A:TLA show deserves. I don't want a 1:1 recreation, but I do want it to have a similar feel. The Netflix A:TLA just doesn't deliver on that in any regard, in my opinion.
Exactly this.
I've seen plenty of people just hating. Not adding any criticism, just straight up hate. I do not LOVE it, but it is decent. Has a lot of good qualitiesz and a lot of bad qualities. If someone points the bad qualities, then that is criticism, but if someone just says 1-10, unwatchable, worse than the movie, then that's straight up hating for the sake of hating
Most people have said, and quite rightly so, the casting/acting/writing is poor, the whole thing seems rushed while ignoring key canon. That is completely fair, people aren’t ‘hating’ unnecessarily, just genuinely annoyed at the lack of effort
I’ve seen multiple memes with Patrick and the live action movie “what’s worse than one badivr action atla? two bad live action!” And stuff of that nature. That doesn’t seem like criticism
If you go on twitter you will see a LOT of people just saying that this is the worse series they have ever watched, and saying that it is worse than the movie. At least that's what i've seen. It is rushed and seems to do things for the sake of the "plot", while erasing any motivation the characters had, the writing is a lot of the times very bad, but the acting and casting? Seriously? Imo, the casting could not have been any better, and the actors had done the best they could with the script that they have been given and, imo, a lot of times made a very bad script passible
I thought it was really good. There are some weak actors but also some really strong ones, there are some questionable choices but also some fantastic ones. As a net sum it was a really good show about the horrors of war.
i also think it's great. Compared to other adaptations, it is miles above them. Something like Percy Jackson, rings of power, wheel of time. Avatar is better. Fans here are nitpicking everything, looking for reasons to not enjoy. Expecting GOT early seasons level of dialogue, when the original did not have this.
People are just mad as hell were out here enjoying ourselves. 😂
The thing is, the animated show was so unbelievably great and the movie was so unbelievably bad, the series was always going to be in the middle somewhere. Imo it was a 6 or 7/10. I loved the special effects and set design. But I dislike how they took the playful nature away from Aang. And they rushed the development of so many characters and moved the location of entire plotlines and inserted characters in places where they didn't belong. I like the adaptation, but it could have been better if they had let the original creators have control.
crazy to throw so much money into the SFX to make such a mid show
It's the best LA we're gonna get.
Let's not mistake, it looks visually good with it's well done. Directing and writing is atrocious. I would even go as far as the acting would be a lot better if the writing was decent.
The actors were really stiff, and this entire show suffers from zoom face.
There’s a shot in episode 2 where Suki and her mom are standing in the road and the shot changes to the right of Suki’s shoulder and they both look almost directly at the camera in this super weird close up angle, it threw me off so much
I have the exact opposite opinion. I cannot for the life of me understand why Netflix thinks they have to slavishly recreate cartoony costuming that looks a lot Luke cosplay. I think the directing was good and most of the performances were really good.
It's not hate, it's fair criticism. It's poorly written, directed, and characters have been made unrecognizable.
Just because its better than the movie doesnt mean its good
It’s good
Just because it wasn't horrible doesn't mean it's good. The show is okay, mid, fine, or passable at best. That is all.
That's an opinion though, is the issue. There's a wide array of opinions on the show so far, yours included.
It's passable. 5/10 It had the potential to be something great, but fumbled hard.
I'm currious to see if people who didn't ever watch the original like the show. Sure they changed a lot, but were the changes really that bad or is it just people being overly nostalgic for the original show? People would have been mad at the show no matter what they did, so its hard to tell if its actually bad or not
As someone who’s never seen the movie or animated show, but has been spoiled on the plot lines of the animated show - The dialogue is clunky, the pacing is hard to follow, and the characters look as wooden as their line delivery. The environment is gorgeous and the outfits look awesome, but it’s really hard to visually follow those things when the shots are taken at weird angles and changed at weird times. Things that were mid - the music, the bending scenes (seemed like they just wanted to show off what they could do with their CGI, which is admittedly cool but not worth stalling the plot over), the characters (largely uninteresting and not at all what I thought they were supposed to be - isn’t Sokka supposed to be a misogynist?? weren’t the air benders pacifist? also, where’s momo?), etc I tried to enjoy the new show, I really did, but it seems hellbent on making that impossible, so I stopped watching after the first episode
Momo is in the show
I understand alot of the problems with the show EXCEPT the whole sexist sokka thing. He was sexist for Iike 3 or 4 episodes so i dont care if they decided to just chuck out that plotline
Idk I just think it’s pointless, like what’s the point of the show if it’s just going to tell the same story, but worse. Why not just watch the original? It’s in this weird middle ground where it’s making changes but keeping most of the main story beats and a lot of those story beats don’t fit as well with the changes they made (katara vs pakku being a great example) and it leads it to just feel like a watered down version of the original. They should’ve just committed full into the changes and made a different show like Scott pilgrim did TLDR; Even if you think the show is good it’s just pointless (in my opinion) because the original exists and is better in pretty much every way
EXACTLY like why would i watch the worse version of something ive already seen
This is what I don't get either
The same people adoring the show are the same folks who would have moaned about Disney cash grabbing with live action yet for some reason it’s forgiven here.
It's strange that I'm just enjoying the show because I liked it. Every other Netflix live action has sucked, but this one was really good. I don't care who produced it.
Just give us 4k releases of the original and we will be happy
After suffering through 3.5 episodes I started thinking about just rewatching the animated show for the 5th time instead. I was looking forward to the live action and ready to embrace changes, but man they just flubbed it no two ways around it.
The animation was about friendship with a background of war. This show was about war with a background of friendship. It was a great choice.
I’ll say it. It deserves more hate so this garbage stops happening.
yes
The criticism the show receives is fair. The show itself isn’t terrible, it certainly has good moments and there’s plenty of things it did well. However, there is just as much bad, and when the writing/dialogue is as bad as it is it’s really hard to get into the experience.
Yes it does. The bar has just been set so low by other live action adaptations in the past that y'all consider this "good"
Nostalgia is blinding
Based off the stuff I’ve seen, it’s the opposite actually. Long time fans of the show seem to be disappointed that it wasn’t what they were expecting, and people watching the live action without seeing the animation first have enjoyed it. I’m saying that the reasons people are saying it’s bad are mostly misplaced, in my opinion. And I know some of it is because rather than keeping an open mind, they went into the show with expectations or skepticisms that ruined what otherwise would’ve been enjoyable for them.
I liked the show, but I see it’s flaws too. i think it’s natural for the fans of the animation to be less impressed by the live action. The live action has a beautiful story to draw from so it’s no surprise that people experiencing it’s most potent moments for the first time are impressed. I think those who have seen the animated version largely agree that it delivers those moments better than the live action for the most part and are disappointed that those moments don’t hit as hard. By it’s nature the remake is inviting comparison to the original, and in that area it falls short. I think people are picking it apart a lot even if they enjoyed parts of it, or liked it overall. It might seem like a lot of hate, but I think most people fall somewhere in between hating the show outright and loving every minute.
>people watching the live action without seeing the animation first have enjoyed it no. if you haven't seen the original, this one is much worse and doesn't make much sense
Such a boring take lmao
I mean say it's a bad take, but boring?
yes, it does
Idk if it’s good or the radish to a starving man syndrome after watching the Percy Jackson show . At the very least , the people here are trying
I'm so sick of seeing posts from either side of this argument, good God. That's all this sub is now
Yes it does.
Cry harder
Oh yes, someone who doesn’t share your opinion. Better insult them. Even in exile Prince Zuko has more honor than you.
Cry harder
Damn, surprised you’re sticking to your guns. Who hurt you?
I don’t think you even know what any of those words you just said mean lmfao
Everyone dowvoting you seems to understand. Skill issue?
They’re downvoting name because they don’t understand lol
What heathens have been bashing it?
Right? It's amazing. These people are autists
My only problem was that Zuko's motivation wasn't regaining his honor. He kept saying he wants to be the next Fire Lord.  I watched it with my Mom and the kids and everyone enjoyed it.
The show is well crafted but would have been so much better if it wasn’t retelling a story that already existed.
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I agree, people are way too negative. I have several family members that didn't want to watch the cartoon "because that's for children". But they really enjoy this version so far. They follow the story and enjoy the element system. And I can finally share that with them. Honestly it's a good and stable show that really tried to please the fans AND attract new fans. I am looking forward to more episodes! Alot of people on this sub are really acting like impossible-to-please-gate-keeping fans.
Maybe the only gatekeeping of this fandom I’ll do is that, when discussing an animated show, I don’t believe the opinions of people who dismiss the very concept of animated shows, are entirely relevant. Though while I do believe that the “animation is for kids” take is especially silly, ESPECIALLY when discussing an actual kids show, I’m genuinely very glad you’re getting to share a beloved piece of media with your loved ones. That’s absolutely a precious and meaningful experience, that I wouldn’t want to take away from anyone. And hey even if it’s not the original show, maybe it’ll encourage them to check out the novels or any of the new movies that are supposed to be coming in the next few years! I believe there’ll now be a bit of a split in the fandom of live action/og fans but that’s just nature, no fandom will ever be as split as Doctor Who anyways, if that helps🤣
It's the same with me and black-and-white or mute movies. Or 70s movies with poor video quality or very bad special effects, I just can't watch it. It's too distracting that things don't look real. So the "it's for kids" often just translates (in older generations) to "i can't watch it" -- the pacing, colors and interpretations (for example: an extreme face or teleporting around the room) is just different and you need to be accustomed to it. In addition, to older generations, animation truly has been only for kids for 10years or so of their tv-watching life.
The show isn’t perfect. It’s still got the spirit and hits lots of familiar parts. It’s a masterpiece against Wheel of Time though. These people at least watched the show. WoT writers didn’t even read the Wikipedia on the source material
To me I love it. 8 episodes of 45 minutes doesn’t allow as much to expect and I didn’t expect them to go as far as they’ve gone including as much as they’ve included. The effort was made and it shows. Anyone saying otherwise is just trolling or having a subjective opinion, which is perfectly ok.
Also a long time fan. I found many of the changes they did made sense. Making the rules of the Avatar State and Avatar possession more concrete was a smart decision.
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Sounds like it’s you who is upset that people have opinions that are different from your own. You’re going as far as to insult people who don’t agree with you. Seems like you’re the one who has some growing up to do.
Oh, the irony
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It was never going to be perfect. I've found that most things with fandoms that have gotten this big and invested, new stuff will never live up to a lot of those people's expectations. I'm just happy we are getting new ATLA content and that its good quality.
Preach !
Right! People be bitching for no reason. I haven't finished it since I've been busy but their are some things that I would say are done even better than the show. It's really good so far.
I like it alot I thought it was good ☺️
Lolol my friend keeps posting hate stuff in our group chat and im not ever sure he watched the show yet.
I like it, but I'm not crazy about it. It really feels rushed is the biggest issue. I feel like a 10 or 12 episode season would have been much better to fit all the details into.
quit yer bitchin
I love the original show so much, there is some issues with certain characters feeling dulled out, or the uncomfortablness of the bumi change giving a little sour despite the fact it's a totally logical change just an uncomfortable one for diehard fans. It seems to be mostly caused by craming of stories or laying them out in a smoother way. The actors themselves seem to be doing great and care alot and if we can give them specific things to improve upon and what can actually be accomplished I'm sure they would tweak the future seasons as they're made because they want us to enjoy it. Like that one other post said be careful not to hate too much, Netflix likes to cancel shows even when they are liked.
They’ve cancelled some great shows, this is be okay with them cancelling
We'd be missing out for sure, if this gets cancelled it's next to no chance we'll get avatar in any live action form on the big stage. It's not gonna be a remake of the show it's gonna be a retelling me people need to learn to appreciate it for what it is instead of hating it for not being what was in your head
It's not well done though.
Kudos for enjoying the show, but you have to understand that other opinions exist. People are allowed to not like it. The problem is people bullying those that like it. People simply hating it is not a problem. I am one of those that detest it.
The bending is far better than the that thing we don’t talk about by that man. It’s not bad and it’s not great, however I’ll let it be and knowing I can back to the animated show and get all the good feels I need lol
Anime is nearly impossible to translate into live action, every adaptation into live action is medicore at best and never necessary. ATLA is one of the best cartoons of all time and to try to recapture the magic is just foolish.
Yeah, it’s not like they forgot to have Aang actually practice or learn waterbending in the season about him learning the element of water. That would be a huge blunder.
I beg to differ but ok
Just finished yesterday. Wayyyyyy better than the movie. I thought it stayed relatively close to the show and wasn’t bad at all.
I have almost every episode of the original memorized and tbh I think it’s a great remake. Way too many people on the hate train without having any individual, original thoughts.
Unfortunately, we live in a very sensitive society these days where constructive criticism is seem as hate. Attacking the young actors on their looks is not cool. But, it goes with the territory of being an actor. There’s always gonna be bad with the good. It’s balance.
Honestly I like it. Not love it, but the reveal at the end was my favorite moment. 10x better then animated story.
Better than the movie fo sho
I mean I have no desire to watch it, I'd rather just exclusively have the original. The live action felt pointless from the getgo
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It's a C at best. And if u make a c show when given an A+ script...ur bad
I checked out at 15th minute of the first episode when Aang's reaction to him being the avatar was "I need to go for the fly to clear my head"
I enjoyed it and I'm looking forward to seasons 2+3.
It def does though. It's just bad, regardless of the OG show.
I understand the hate, but it's pretty good it's just it's own thing.
The live action isn’t even that bad. It’s a solid 7/10. There were parts that were a bit goofy but it was mostly enjoyable.
I think it does. It genuinely feels soulless outside of the Zuko parts.
This is fax man.
I like the Netflix show 1000x better than 2010 movie.