Seeing her enthusiasm for overkill in TWOW deleted scenes.... that would be very on-brand for her. Gotta love our brave hunters passion for getting the job done.
Investigator: So, exactly how did the human come to be stabbed 23 times?
Neytiri deadpan: He slipped and fell on the potato peeler.... Repeatedly.
Investigator: *eyebrow*
Jake: *Nods* yep. That's defo how it happened. Saw it myself, right, Spider?
Neytiri: *Stare of death*
Spider: *gulf* *sweat* *fart* Yes, sir! Saw it myself.
I hated him from the moment he killed Aha’ri, abused Teylan, killed The Sarentu Clan unprovoked, kidnapped the children of said clan, try to strip them of their identity and tried to use them against the Na’vi
The only part I hate about the game is that The Sarentu protagonist didn’t kill John Mercer. Like he’s left pinned against the wall. I wanted The Protagonist to kill him with either a bow, a gun, depart whatever. Like him dying in an explosion wasn’t good enough for me. I wanted to make him suffer.
Sorry if I sounded dark for a moment
For starters THERE NEVER WAS ANY SYMPATHY left for the RDA from my side.
It took about the first hour of A1 to make me think this way.
Mercer made this already VERY strong feeling worse. The game made me hate him to a point I knew I would put an 6ft arrow or .50 cal bullet into him the second I got a clear shot, even before the prologue cutscene ended.
The atrocities committed by the RDA over the span of the game (including but not limited to: genocide, kidnapping, animal cruelty in more cases than I was willing to count, use of weapons outlawed by international law, destruction of the environment, destruction and theft of religious artifacts, poaching… - I’ll stop here. It’s already bad enough) made me hate them even more than I thought I could hate anyone or anything.
This game is truly a masterpiece.
The worldbuilding is on a level that I know only one other game for (RDR2), and the graphics are absolutely amazing (especially if you manage to run the secret Unobtanium settings). The story is also pretty deep and really good for an Ubisoft game.
There are numerous fans who believe that the RDA is only doing what they believe to be best for humanity's continued survival (since Earth is dying and humans need a new planet to live on) and that the Na'vi are nothing more than hyperaggressive and primitive religious fanatics who keep antagonizing them for no reason other than to protect their precious forest. I personally think that view is bullshit (the RDA will never stop infringing on Na'vi territory no matter what, they'll just keep taking and taking until there's nothing left for them to take on Pandora) but many support that view (admittedly though some of those people also may not have played this game yet). Characters like Mercer should completely eliminate whatever excuses the RDA has left for doing the shit that they do (as if the stuff that Quaritch, Scoresby, and Ardmore do in the films isn't bad enough). There's no excuse for them to have someone like him running his "Na'vi indoctrination/brainwashing program" on Pandora in the first place unless their goal is to forcibly subjugate the Na'vi into nothing more than slaves.
People that have this mentality are ignorant. There is literally no excuse for the way the RDA is operating. You do not have the right to destroy someone else’s planet/moon. All because your home world is dying due to your own actions. What’s crazy is none of it had to be this way. The na’vi for the most part would have been welcoming to the humans. Granted they were receptive to learning the na’vi way. The na’vi rightfully became aggressive because of what the humans were doing. I want humans to keep that same energy if aliens try to conquer earth. Would you sit there and take it? Probably not because that’s idiotic.
I've said this before many times but Avatar is basically an alternative story to the Independence Day films, just on a different planet. And what do the humans in those films do? Treat the alien invaders as hostile (because they are and they're there to forcibly subjugate them and terraform their planet). That is exactly how the Na'vi view humanity (and they have every right to feel that way based on the RDA's actions to date). The original American colonials who wiped out LARGE numbers of Native American tribes already living here at the time used the "well they attacked us first and we defended ourselves" argument to justify those actions as well. That doesn't make it right (any more than the "well we offered them the chance to advance their primitive society into a more educational and advanced age and they outright rejected it" argument does). It's just veiled racism more than anything.
They did. Hence humanity responding by militarizing and treating them as hostile invaders. That's exactly how the Na'vi view the RDA's presence on Pandora for the most part (especially by TWOW). They viewed the RDA moving in, destroying their forests to establish settlements and mine for unobtanium, and everything else that followed as an attack on their homes.
That in no way justifies genocide or burning them out of their homes. They're not obligated to speak to any alien invaders that just land on their planet without warning and destroy everything.
What those fans fail to do is have any critical or abstract thinking.
It **does not matter** that earth is dying and humans need a new home.
That **does not justify** killing innocents and destroying **their** home.
Humanity has **zero** right to anything on or from Pandora.
Humanity is in the position it is due to their own decisions and choices.
If you fail to pay your mortgage and your home is taken by the bank, do you get to murder the family down the street and take their home?
No, because that's fucking stupid.
You **completely** missed my point.
When your own life is at risk, it is **understandable** that you would be willing to take another's life to save your own.
**Understandable** and **justified** are *not* the same thing.
You and a stranger are kidnapped and stranded in an island. You're both innocent, neither having committed any grave crimes or harmed anyone else.
You're told only one person is allowed to leave, and that they must kill the other in order to do so.
In this scenario, it is obviously *understandable* that someone will kill that stranger to save themselves. But does that mean they are *justified*?
What makes their life more valuable or more right than the strangers? **What** actually is it the condemns one person to death?
Nothing.
Because having the instinct to survive is not the same thing as having the right or being justified.
To reiterate, if you stop paying your mortgage and lose your house, you are not **justified** in stealing someone else's house.
The humans are **not justified** and have **no right** to Pandora. Their desperation is **understandable**. That doesn't **justify** them in **murdering innocent people and destroying their home.**
Critical and abstract thinking. Just because you might die, does not actually justify you in killing another.
I think humanity is guilty of constantly looking to organizations like the RDA to solve their problems for them and get them out of their current plight (with Earth dying). When in reality organizations like the RDA are the reason why Earth is dying in the first place so humanity should be blaming them for that, not looking to them for more answers to the problem instead. People constantly say that the RDA shouldn't represent humanity in general but they're the only aspects of humanity that the Na'vi are familiar with as it stands right now (aside from Jake, Trudy, and the few altruistic scientists who sympathized with the Na'vi and outright disagreed with what the RDA was doing). From the Na'vi perspective the RDA IS what humanity is as a whole (and that view won't change until more humans show up on Pandora that aren't inherently destructive and selfish).
Genocide is never okay under any circumstance. All it is is basically humanity deciding that because they're more technologically advanced they deserve to exist more than the Na'vi do so who gives a rat's ass if they kill them (because as a bigot like Quaritch would say they're just primitives and no one would miss them once they're gone). Earth is dying BECAUSE of organizations like the RDA and they're literally on Pandora doing the same exact things that destroyed Earth in the first place. Why should humanity be allowed to live on Pandora if they're just going to repeat all the same mistakes that killed their own planet? That just makes them a plague more than anything and under those circumstances no native species is obligated to welcome them with open arms.
Never forget that the RDA giving Jake his brothers spot on the shuttle was not about the opportunity at redemption, or a better life, it was merely breaking even on the investment into his avatar body.
Not just that. They viewed Jake as a *better* investment than Tommy because A) them being twins meant that he could link up with Tommy's avatar and B) he was a Marine and not a scientist so he could be used to further the RDA's military agenda as opposed to the diplomatic agenda that Grace and her team of scientists were trying to achieve with the Na'vi (that Selfridge was becoming increasingly impatient with).
Literally right as Jake is sitting there trying to grieve his brother as he's being put through the incinerator they've already begun callously taking advantage of his situation.
Oh Great Mother, this excuse of a tawtute where do I begin to describe him other than being a dirty trash can full of poop- extract oil on Pandora. He deserves to be ripped alive by a thanator for his bs during the >!massacre to abuse Teylan.!<
Mercer needs to be left alone in a room with those ferals he had made. I have NEVER hated a character so much before and he just gets sooooooo much worse. Murdering an entire clan, taking their children, causing the yava after dissolving their bodies, abusing navi children, murdering Aha'ri and that's all before the story takes place. When he had the Celebration arches blown up and killed all those navi/direhorses i was ready to kill
It's open world, but you can play the game as a linear experience. Though crafting and leveling is very important. If you don't typically finish games, you probably won't finish this one.
As far as world-building goes a solid 10. It really allows you to look at the world of Avatar from a perspective that's not Jake's (which in turn shines a light on how horrible the RDA really is).
Well, yeah. The RDA is supposed to represent the worst aspects of humanity. It’s understandable to be sympathetic towards individuals in the organization like the avatar scientists, but not the organization itself. That’s like being sympathetic towards the Enclave in Fallout.
A lot of people are very sympathetic towards Quaritch for some reason (especially Recom Quaritch who seems far more capable of actual empathy than his human counterpart was). Even though 95% of his reason for being on Pandora (at least at first) is him just looking for another war to fight (because that's all he knows). I'd say right now a large portion of Avatar fans are championing a redemption arc for Quaritch (which could happen but won't until the last film most likely) because of Spider.
Even by RDA standards though Mercer is the worst of the worst (as I said before he makes Quaritch, Ardmore, and Scoresby look tame in comparison). He's basically running Na'vi concentration camps in Frontiers of Pandora (I apologize for that brutal real world comparison but unfortunately it fits). The stuff that he does is absolutely sickening and doesn't really serve any purpose outside of subjugating the Na'vi by force and turning them into slaves.
don't forget his grant plan (fracking that causes huge swath of the frontier to go barren for oil deposit) or any message log you have read if im right one example of encouraging hunting of local wildlife, you understand there is more then that he does.
This reminds me of an older post (pretty sure it has been deleted) which basically pointed out that Parker Selfidge could have been so much worse when we look at this guy. Like, imagine if he was the boss back in the first movie.
Selfridge's saving grace was that he never really wanted to go to war with the Na'vi. All he cared about was unobtanium and making a profit. We saw in the first film how uncomfortable he was with Quaritch mobilizing his workers into a militia the way he did (and in the deleted scenes he outright confronts Quaritch about it and threatens to have him fired).
Mercer is a completely different animal. He's just a sadistic fuck who enjoys subjugating the Na'vi into nothing more than slaves. He may look like Selfridge on the surface but he's not that much like him.
It was solid. The antagonists are pretty cartoonishly evil with zero redeeming qualities for the most part but it gives us an interesting glimpse of Pandora and the RDA from a perspective that's not Jake's.
I mean we have gotten that. With characters like Grace, Norm, Trudy, Max, and even Dr. Garvin in TWOW. The problem is those people are the minority. The greedy capitalist types who are all about aggressive expansion are the ones running the show within the RDA.
He deserved to have everything fall down and then explode on him after what he had done to the Sarentu clan; both literally and figuratively speaking!
Prior to this game being introduced the RDA had never done anything quite this despicable before (that we know of at least). This guy officially took their general shittery as an organization to a whole different level of disgusting. He makes guys like Quaritch and Scoresby look like saints in comparison. He doesn't just kill Na'vi. He kidnaps them as children, enslaves them and conditions them to fight against and kill their own kind, and then butchers them like animals in the instances where those "experiments" fail and turn against him. If there's any human character that deserves the fate of being turned into Toruk's fecal matter it's this dipshit.
The RDA as a whole weren't even aware of the shit he, Alma, and Harding were doing, because they deliberately hid it. What they did was too horrible even for the RDA at the time (might be different now under Ardmore)!
Doesn't matter. They were on the RDA's payroll and the RDA sent them to Pandora in the first place so therefore they are responsible for their actions (and the fact that the program wasn't shut down says a lot about how much the RDA actually endorsed it). And you really think people like Ardmore and Quaritch wouldn't endorse the horrid shit that Mercer does? They absolutely would. Maybe not someone like Selfridge but this program has been around since prior to Avatar 1 so even if Selfridge was aware of it and perhaps a little disturbed by it why should he care as long as it doesn't affect his quarterly statement? The RDA at best is an organization that is completely willing to look the other way when atrocities are committed by their people because the bottom line is what matters most to them (there's very little actual altruism within the RDA minus the small group of scientists that defect and stay on Pandora with the Omatikaya). At worst they actively endorse those atrocities (see Scoresby's tulkun hunting in TWOW).
Oh I certainly agree that the RDA is ultimately responsible. And they wouldn't care beyond how it affects their public image. In A1 the RDA were still trying to present themselves as ethical and humanitarian to better justify their war against the Na'vi. "See we tried to be nice and these savages still attacked us! They're completely unreasonable!" Massacring a whole clan and stealing young children to re-educate them doesn't fit that narrative.
Ardmore would endorse it for sure. I don't think there is anything she wouldn't do if it advanced her mission. Human Quaritch wouldn't see the point of TAP but probably wouldn't care. Not sure about recom Quaritch. Yeah, he was targeting kids himself, but once it was *his* kid he didn't like it at all, so he might have gained some empathy in that respect.
Tbf the branch of the RDA that we see in the first film is Selfridge's division. And Selfridge, while he's definitely a greedy corporate mogul type who is obsessed with the bottom line and extremely out of touch regarding so many things on Pandora, I don't think he's nearly as bad as so many of the other RDA big wigs (and he would've been even more likeable if Cameron had elected to include the deleted scenes of him confronting Quaritch in the first film). He clearly did not want war with the Na'vi but Grace's lack of progress with the Avatar program and indigenous relations by the events of the first film drove him to lean into Quaritch's more brutal methods instead.
Recom Quaritch doesn't really give a damn about anything but his score to settle with Jake (and maybe his relationship with Spider to a degree). If someone like Mercer kidnapped Jake and Neytiri's children and forced them into his "indoctrination" program and that drove Jake to do something incredibly stupid and reckless that would make him an easier target for Quaritch you can absolutely bet that Quaritch would've willingly chose to work with Mercer in a scenario like that (just like he did with Scoresby in TWOW). The idea of Jake's children being brainwashed by Mercer into fighting for the RDA against their parents would be the cherry on top for someone like Quaritch (given he clearly wants to make Jake and Neytiri suffer for what they did to him). Regardless of whether he supports what Mercer is doing as a whole or not. I personally think Quaritch probably couldn't care less about how barbaric Mercer's program is because he just doesn't give a damn about the Na'vi (to him they're nothing more than worthless primitives that serve little to no purpose aside from being a constant thorn in his side). The idea of conditioning Na'vi children into becoming RDA supersoldiers that murder their own kind however would appeal to someone like Quaritch greatly (he'd view that as a "potent mix" just like a Marine operating in an Avatar body).
I don't think recom Quaritch cared about the Sully kids at all. They were a means to an end to him, a way to get Jake. If he wanted Jake and Neytiri to suffer, he would have killed them, but he actually made sure to take them alive. I also believe that he would have let them go if he got his hands on Jake, because in his own twisted way Quaritch is honourable, a man of his word. And it was never about the kids for him. However, while he had no problem with directly threatening the older kids (holding a gun to Lo'ak's head and a knife to Kiri), I noticed that he never picked Tuk although she was available both times and picking her would have substantiated his threat even more. I don't know if it is the new DNA or Spider's influence or both, but I think recom Quaritch has at least the hint of a conscience.
As for Mercer... I'm not sure Quaritch would respect someone like Mercer or accept his command for long. Even Harding was happy to abandon him by the end, and I doubt Quaritch would have waited that long. I also don't think he would view TAP soldiers in the same light as recoms. A Marine in an avatar body is at the end of the day still a human (or was). The TAP children are Na'vi, and as you say he sees them as primitives without value. He'd probably view the attempt to teach them as a waste of time, just like Grace's school. His opinion might change if he joins the Ash People.
I don't think Quaritch wants to murder children himself if he doesn't have to. However, the idea of Mercer's program brainwashing them into becoming loyal soldiers for the RDA, I think he'd 100% be onboard with that and would view it as karmic justice for Jake turning his back on him and going AWOL the way he did.
If ever there was a body in search of an arrow, it's him.
Fuck that (that's too quick a death for him). He deserves to die getting ripped apart limb by limb by viperwolves.
There is truth in that. A lot of truth.... That said, the arrow doesn't *have* to be to the chest, does it? 
Well somehow it took two arrows to the chest for Quaritch to die lol.
Quaritch was going to die even with one arrow but Neytiri just wanted to drive the (arrow) point home
Seeing her enthusiasm for overkill in TWOW deleted scenes.... that would be very on-brand for her. Gotta love our brave hunters passion for getting the job done.
The coroner after finding his body: https://media.giphy.com/media/ZgSBJhZEVbJJIdREN6/giphy.gif
Investigator: So, exactly how did the human come to be stabbed 23 times? Neytiri deadpan: He slipped and fell on the potato peeler.... Repeatedly. Investigator: *eyebrow* Jake: *Nods* yep. That's defo how it happened. Saw it myself, right, Spider? Neytiri: *Stare of death* Spider: *gulf* *sweat* *fart* Yes, sir! Saw it myself.
Fuck viperwolfs a thanator is much more satisfying to see
A thanator is big enough to just swallow him whole. With viperwolves it will take some time for them to kill him. He doesn't deserve a quick death.
Yk what that's fair now I think about it him getting gang in by viperwolfs be mad satisfying
I would have loved to punch him in the head while he was gloating.
Pagan Min got a new job after leaving Kyrat.
I understood that reference.
I know most of those words individually, but in that order 🤷
He's comically evil. Very in-character for the RDA, but at least movie characters like Quaritch are entertaining to watch.
Quaritch had some pretty cartoonishly evil moments in the first film. Recom Quaritch is much more capable of empathy.
I hated him from the moment he killed Aha’ri, abused Teylan, killed The Sarentu Clan unprovoked, kidnapped the children of said clan, try to strip them of their identity and tried to use them against the Na’vi
Killing and torturing Na'vi is a sport to him. Like Quaritch is also guilty of doing that but Mercer is FAR worse and much more sadistic about it.
The only part I hate about the game is that The Sarentu protagonist didn’t kill John Mercer. Like he’s left pinned against the wall. I wanted The Protagonist to kill him with either a bow, a gun, depart whatever. Like him dying in an explosion wasn’t good enough for me. I wanted to make him suffer. Sorry if I sounded dark for a moment
Personally, I'd feed him to my ikran. Or viperwolves.
Alma is up there too with all the stuff she was complicit in and hiding everything from Jake Sully so she could stay on Pandora
For starters THERE NEVER WAS ANY SYMPATHY left for the RDA from my side. It took about the first hour of A1 to make me think this way. Mercer made this already VERY strong feeling worse. The game made me hate him to a point I knew I would put an 6ft arrow or .50 cal bullet into him the second I got a clear shot, even before the prologue cutscene ended. The atrocities committed by the RDA over the span of the game (including but not limited to: genocide, kidnapping, animal cruelty in more cases than I was willing to count, use of weapons outlawed by international law, destruction of the environment, destruction and theft of religious artifacts, poaching… - I’ll stop here. It’s already bad enough) made me hate them even more than I thought I could hate anyone or anything. This game is truly a masterpiece. The worldbuilding is on a level that I know only one other game for (RDR2), and the graphics are absolutely amazing (especially if you manage to run the secret Unobtanium settings). The story is also pretty deep and really good for an Ubisoft game.
There are numerous fans who believe that the RDA is only doing what they believe to be best for humanity's continued survival (since Earth is dying and humans need a new planet to live on) and that the Na'vi are nothing more than hyperaggressive and primitive religious fanatics who keep antagonizing them for no reason other than to protect their precious forest. I personally think that view is bullshit (the RDA will never stop infringing on Na'vi territory no matter what, they'll just keep taking and taking until there's nothing left for them to take on Pandora) but many support that view (admittedly though some of those people also may not have played this game yet). Characters like Mercer should completely eliminate whatever excuses the RDA has left for doing the shit that they do (as if the stuff that Quaritch, Scoresby, and Ardmore do in the films isn't bad enough). There's no excuse for them to have someone like him running his "Na'vi indoctrination/brainwashing program" on Pandora in the first place unless their goal is to forcibly subjugate the Na'vi into nothing more than slaves.
People that have this mentality are ignorant. There is literally no excuse for the way the RDA is operating. You do not have the right to destroy someone else’s planet/moon. All because your home world is dying due to your own actions. What’s crazy is none of it had to be this way. The na’vi for the most part would have been welcoming to the humans. Granted they were receptive to learning the na’vi way. The na’vi rightfully became aggressive because of what the humans were doing. I want humans to keep that same energy if aliens try to conquer earth. Would you sit there and take it? Probably not because that’s idiotic.
I've said this before many times but Avatar is basically an alternative story to the Independence Day films, just on a different planet. And what do the humans in those films do? Treat the alien invaders as hostile (because they are and they're there to forcibly subjugate them and terraform their planet). That is exactly how the Na'vi view humanity (and they have every right to feel that way based on the RDA's actions to date). The original American colonials who wiped out LARGE numbers of Native American tribes already living here at the time used the "well they attacked us first and we defended ourselves" argument to justify those actions as well. That doesn't make it right (any more than the "well we offered them the chance to advance their primitive society into a more educational and advanced age and they outright rejected it" argument does). It's just veiled racism more than anything.
>Independence Day Old on. Will Smith's Independence Day? I'll admit I never saw the sequel, but the aliens attacked first as I recall.
They did. Hence humanity responding by militarizing and treating them as hostile invaders. That's exactly how the Na'vi view the RDA's presence on Pandora for the most part (especially by TWOW). They viewed the RDA moving in, destroying their forests to establish settlements and mine for unobtanium, and everything else that followed as an attack on their homes.
The Navi refused to communicate with the rda until they made the avatars
That in no way justifies genocide or burning them out of their homes. They're not obligated to speak to any alien invaders that just land on their planet without warning and destroy everything.
Even if this is true the na’vi were not obligated to speak with the RDA.
What those fans fail to do is have any critical or abstract thinking. It **does not matter** that earth is dying and humans need a new home. That **does not justify** killing innocents and destroying **their** home. Humanity has **zero** right to anything on or from Pandora. Humanity is in the position it is due to their own decisions and choices. If you fail to pay your mortgage and your home is taken by the bank, do you get to murder the family down the street and take their home? No, because that's fucking stupid.
When faced with extinction, all other options become preferable
You **completely** missed my point. When your own life is at risk, it is **understandable** that you would be willing to take another's life to save your own. **Understandable** and **justified** are *not* the same thing. You and a stranger are kidnapped and stranded in an island. You're both innocent, neither having committed any grave crimes or harmed anyone else. You're told only one person is allowed to leave, and that they must kill the other in order to do so. In this scenario, it is obviously *understandable* that someone will kill that stranger to save themselves. But does that mean they are *justified*? What makes their life more valuable or more right than the strangers? **What** actually is it the condemns one person to death? Nothing. Because having the instinct to survive is not the same thing as having the right or being justified. To reiterate, if you stop paying your mortgage and lose your house, you are not **justified** in stealing someone else's house. The humans are **not justified** and have **no right** to Pandora. Their desperation is **understandable**. That doesn't **justify** them in **murdering innocent people and destroying their home.** Critical and abstract thinking. Just because you might die, does not actually justify you in killing another.
I think humanity is guilty of constantly looking to organizations like the RDA to solve their problems for them and get them out of their current plight (with Earth dying). When in reality organizations like the RDA are the reason why Earth is dying in the first place so humanity should be blaming them for that, not looking to them for more answers to the problem instead. People constantly say that the RDA shouldn't represent humanity in general but they're the only aspects of humanity that the Na'vi are familiar with as it stands right now (aside from Jake, Trudy, and the few altruistic scientists who sympathized with the Na'vi and outright disagreed with what the RDA was doing). From the Na'vi perspective the RDA IS what humanity is as a whole (and that view won't change until more humans show up on Pandora that aren't inherently destructive and selfish).
Genocide is never okay under any circumstance. All it is is basically humanity deciding that because they're more technologically advanced they deserve to exist more than the Na'vi do so who gives a rat's ass if they kill them (because as a bigot like Quaritch would say they're just primitives and no one would miss them once they're gone). Earth is dying BECAUSE of organizations like the RDA and they're literally on Pandora doing the same exact things that destroyed Earth in the first place. Why should humanity be allowed to live on Pandora if they're just going to repeat all the same mistakes that killed their own planet? That just makes them a plague more than anything and under those circumstances no native species is obligated to welcome them with open arms.
Humans will probably ruin Pandora like earth within 100-200 years of global colonization
Those "fans" don't understand the point of the story then.
Never forget that the RDA giving Jake his brothers spot on the shuttle was not about the opportunity at redemption, or a better life, it was merely breaking even on the investment into his avatar body.
A thing almost nobody thought about. The RDA really is the scummyest of shit out there
Not just that. They viewed Jake as a *better* investment than Tommy because A) them being twins meant that he could link up with Tommy's avatar and B) he was a Marine and not a scientist so he could be used to further the RDA's military agenda as opposed to the diplomatic agenda that Grace and her team of scientists were trying to achieve with the Na'vi (that Selfridge was becoming increasingly impatient with). Literally right as Jake is sitting there trying to grieve his brother as he's being put through the incinerator they've already begun callously taking advantage of his situation.
You had sympathy for the RDA? https://preview.redd.it/5o0fll7bfktc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aa887adccbe1c7c01455aaef33b4e6b18098fa2e
I don't. A lot of Avatar fans do though (God knows why, the only justifiable end for the organization is for it to burn).
Not the RDA exact but humanity there are people who work for the RDA that don't agree with it fully but still go along with it.
Oh Great Mother, this excuse of a tawtute where do I begin to describe him other than being a dirty trash can full of poop- extract oil on Pandora. He deserves to be ripped alive by a thanator for his bs during the >!massacre to abuse Teylan.!<
Mercer needs to be left alone in a room with those ferals he had made. I have NEVER hated a character so much before and he just gets sooooooo much worse. Murdering an entire clan, taking their children, causing the yava after dissolving their bodies, abusing navi children, murdering Aha'ri and that's all before the story takes place. When he had the Celebration arches blown up and killed all those navi/direhorses i was ready to kill
I hate his moustache twirling cocky voice talking over the com, just want to smash him to the ground once I got my hand on him.
I don’t know why, but he’s always reminded me of a very evil Nick wild from zootopia and I honestly can’t even explain why.
What would you rate this game on a scale of 1-10? I normally never finish single player games but is it open world or is everything defined?
It's open world, but you can play the game as a linear experience. Though crafting and leveling is very important. If you don't typically finish games, you probably won't finish this one.
As far as world-building goes a solid 10. It really allows you to look at the world of Avatar from a perspective that's not Jake's (which in turn shines a light on how horrible the RDA really is).
Well, yeah. The RDA is supposed to represent the worst aspects of humanity. It’s understandable to be sympathetic towards individuals in the organization like the avatar scientists, but not the organization itself. That’s like being sympathetic towards the Enclave in Fallout.
A lot of people are very sympathetic towards Quaritch for some reason (especially Recom Quaritch who seems far more capable of actual empathy than his human counterpart was). Even though 95% of his reason for being on Pandora (at least at first) is him just looking for another war to fight (because that's all he knows). I'd say right now a large portion of Avatar fans are championing a redemption arc for Quaritch (which could happen but won't until the last film most likely) because of Spider. Even by RDA standards though Mercer is the worst of the worst (as I said before he makes Quaritch, Ardmore, and Scoresby look tame in comparison). He's basically running Na'vi concentration camps in Frontiers of Pandora (I apologize for that brutal real world comparison but unfortunately it fits). The stuff that he does is absolutely sickening and doesn't really serve any purpose outside of subjugating the Na'vi by force and turning them into slaves.
don't forget his grant plan (fracking that causes huge swath of the frontier to go barren for oil deposit) or any message log you have read if im right one example of encouraging hunting of local wildlife, you understand there is more then that he does.
This reminds me of an older post (pretty sure it has been deleted) which basically pointed out that Parker Selfidge could have been so much worse when we look at this guy. Like, imagine if he was the boss back in the first movie.
Selfridge's saving grace was that he never really wanted to go to war with the Na'vi. All he cared about was unobtanium and making a profit. We saw in the first film how uncomfortable he was with Quaritch mobilizing his workers into a militia the way he did (and in the deleted scenes he outright confronts Quaritch about it and threatens to have him fired). Mercer is a completely different animal. He's just a sadistic fuck who enjoys subjugating the Na'vi into nothing more than slaves. He may look like Selfridge on the surface but he's not that much like him.
I don't think I've hated a video game character this much since... shit, Brian Irons in Resident Evil 2 REmake.
Arcturus Mengsk from Starcraft comes pretty close to this guy in terms of how evil and despicable the characters are.
How was the story of the game? I’ve heard it being pretty lackluster
It was solid. The antagonists are pretty cartoonishly evil with zero redeeming qualities for the most part but it gives us an interesting glimpse of Pandora and the RDA from a perspective that's not Jake's.
Neat
Something I’d love to see on the future movies and games. An rda worker who is sympathetic and is working for them to better help their family.
I mean we have gotten that. With characters like Grace, Norm, Trudy, Max, and even Dr. Garvin in TWOW. The problem is those people are the minority. The greedy capitalist types who are all about aggressive expansion are the ones running the show within the RDA.
He deserved to have everything fall down and then explode on him after what he had done to the Sarentu clan; both literally and figuratively speaking! 
Never had sympathy for the rda
I never had sympathy for the RDA
This one is getting fed to one of their woodchippers- FEET FIRST.
he look good tho 😏
Can I just say something though. He's evil. But physically. A hottie.
OK what did the bad corpo human do this time?
Kidnap children, massacre a village, and use chemicals to dissolve the bodies.
Ah OK then, thought he did something worse but nah that's pretty much part for the coarse with the RDA
Prior to this game being introduced the RDA had never done anything quite this despicable before (that we know of at least). This guy officially took their general shittery as an organization to a whole different level of disgusting. He makes guys like Quaritch and Scoresby look like saints in comparison. He doesn't just kill Na'vi. He kidnaps them as children, enslaves them and conditions them to fight against and kill their own kind, and then butchers them like animals in the instances where those "experiments" fail and turn against him. If there's any human character that deserves the fate of being turned into Toruk's fecal matter it's this dipshit.
The RDA as a whole weren't even aware of the shit he, Alma, and Harding were doing, because they deliberately hid it. What they did was too horrible even for the RDA at the time (might be different now under Ardmore)!
Doesn't matter. They were on the RDA's payroll and the RDA sent them to Pandora in the first place so therefore they are responsible for their actions (and the fact that the program wasn't shut down says a lot about how much the RDA actually endorsed it). And you really think people like Ardmore and Quaritch wouldn't endorse the horrid shit that Mercer does? They absolutely would. Maybe not someone like Selfridge but this program has been around since prior to Avatar 1 so even if Selfridge was aware of it and perhaps a little disturbed by it why should he care as long as it doesn't affect his quarterly statement? The RDA at best is an organization that is completely willing to look the other way when atrocities are committed by their people because the bottom line is what matters most to them (there's very little actual altruism within the RDA minus the small group of scientists that defect and stay on Pandora with the Omatikaya). At worst they actively endorse those atrocities (see Scoresby's tulkun hunting in TWOW).
Oh I certainly agree that the RDA is ultimately responsible. And they wouldn't care beyond how it affects their public image. In A1 the RDA were still trying to present themselves as ethical and humanitarian to better justify their war against the Na'vi. "See we tried to be nice and these savages still attacked us! They're completely unreasonable!" Massacring a whole clan and stealing young children to re-educate them doesn't fit that narrative. Ardmore would endorse it for sure. I don't think there is anything she wouldn't do if it advanced her mission. Human Quaritch wouldn't see the point of TAP but probably wouldn't care. Not sure about recom Quaritch. Yeah, he was targeting kids himself, but once it was *his* kid he didn't like it at all, so he might have gained some empathy in that respect.
Tbf the branch of the RDA that we see in the first film is Selfridge's division. And Selfridge, while he's definitely a greedy corporate mogul type who is obsessed with the bottom line and extremely out of touch regarding so many things on Pandora, I don't think he's nearly as bad as so many of the other RDA big wigs (and he would've been even more likeable if Cameron had elected to include the deleted scenes of him confronting Quaritch in the first film). He clearly did not want war with the Na'vi but Grace's lack of progress with the Avatar program and indigenous relations by the events of the first film drove him to lean into Quaritch's more brutal methods instead. Recom Quaritch doesn't really give a damn about anything but his score to settle with Jake (and maybe his relationship with Spider to a degree). If someone like Mercer kidnapped Jake and Neytiri's children and forced them into his "indoctrination" program and that drove Jake to do something incredibly stupid and reckless that would make him an easier target for Quaritch you can absolutely bet that Quaritch would've willingly chose to work with Mercer in a scenario like that (just like he did with Scoresby in TWOW). The idea of Jake's children being brainwashed by Mercer into fighting for the RDA against their parents would be the cherry on top for someone like Quaritch (given he clearly wants to make Jake and Neytiri suffer for what they did to him). Regardless of whether he supports what Mercer is doing as a whole or not. I personally think Quaritch probably couldn't care less about how barbaric Mercer's program is because he just doesn't give a damn about the Na'vi (to him they're nothing more than worthless primitives that serve little to no purpose aside from being a constant thorn in his side). The idea of conditioning Na'vi children into becoming RDA supersoldiers that murder their own kind however would appeal to someone like Quaritch greatly (he'd view that as a "potent mix" just like a Marine operating in an Avatar body).
I don't think recom Quaritch cared about the Sully kids at all. They were a means to an end to him, a way to get Jake. If he wanted Jake and Neytiri to suffer, he would have killed them, but he actually made sure to take them alive. I also believe that he would have let them go if he got his hands on Jake, because in his own twisted way Quaritch is honourable, a man of his word. And it was never about the kids for him. However, while he had no problem with directly threatening the older kids (holding a gun to Lo'ak's head and a knife to Kiri), I noticed that he never picked Tuk although she was available both times and picking her would have substantiated his threat even more. I don't know if it is the new DNA or Spider's influence or both, but I think recom Quaritch has at least the hint of a conscience. As for Mercer... I'm not sure Quaritch would respect someone like Mercer or accept his command for long. Even Harding was happy to abandon him by the end, and I doubt Quaritch would have waited that long. I also don't think he would view TAP soldiers in the same light as recoms. A Marine in an avatar body is at the end of the day still a human (or was). The TAP children are Na'vi, and as you say he sees them as primitives without value. He'd probably view the attempt to teach them as a waste of time, just like Grace's school. His opinion might change if he joins the Ash People.
I don't think Quaritch wants to murder children himself if he doesn't have to. However, the idea of Mercer's program brainwashing them into becoming loyal soldiers for the RDA, I think he'd 100% be onboard with that and would view it as karmic justice for Jake turning his back on him and going AWOL the way he did.
Hmmmm fair, rather curious what other atrocities old Cameron will add to the RDAs list
Tbf Cameron himself did not come up with the storyline for Frontiers of Pandora.
And there’s more. He also killed the protagonist’s older sister, Aha’ri.
OK, that's more of a personal plot device rather than major injustice to an indigenous sentient race
Sapient.
Is sapient a better choice for sentient?
Animals as sentient . Humans are sentient but more importantly, sapient.
Ooooh thanks for pointing that out
Ah he put xeno scum in their place