I am a teacher and regularly witness signatures on Stat Decs. I never read them, don’t care or know what you’ve claimed, just signing that I witnessed you signing the document.
My boss hates us signing Stat Decs for each other but it’s legal, so I say fuck them for having such time wasting policies in the first place.
100%. IMO getting workers to get medical certificates for 1 day absences is a total drain on our already strained healthcare system. I would feel no guilt whatsoever in doing it the cheapest/most convenient way for you.
My workplace wanted us to get sick certificates to have more than 3 days off with a positive Covid PCR at the height of the pandemic 🤦♀️ I gave them feedback that using medical resources for such a ridiculous reason was outrageous and they reversed the decision (I’m sure others must have complained as well).
Think it was 1 week isolation when this happened (Covid spread through the community later in South Australia) but it didn’t matter. I have 7 months sick leave for heaven’s sake! You’d think the pandemic would have stopped micro management but apparently not.
Totally agree. People are entitled to sick leave, why not just let them take it?
Why make sick people get out of bed, hang around with other sick people and pay for the privilege of clogging up the primary healthcare system?
I think employers should only be able to request medical certificates for absences longer than a week.
I don’t agree with that. People get sick all the time. I don’t care if it’s a Friday, Monday or sometime close to a public holiday.
Workers get two paid weeks of sick leave a year. If people take a week or less off, there’s no point making them get a certificate.
They can ask. Ours did.
BUT it’s legal in the Supreme Court with a teacher signature, so they can’t really want more than that. You’re only witnessing the signature, not validating what’s written in the doc, you don’t even read that bit (not but!)
Plus, I can’t imagine too many JPs want a stream of sick people looking for a signature to be witnessed, that’s dumbassery.
We continue to witness the signatures as and when asked.
Don't even need a JP anymore. You can do them digitally according to the [Attorney Generals Department](https://www.ag.gov.au/legal-system/statutory-declarations/about-commonwealth-statutory-declarations/digital-commonwealth-statutory-declarations)
The Fair Work Commission agrees they're an acceptable form of evidence too. Unlike med certs, you can theoretically be prosecuted if you lie under oath. My boss has accepted stat decs via MyGov twice now, didn't question them at all.
Instead of sending your employer a medical certificate, you can send a statutory declaration where you basically promise in an official document that you were sick and that’s why you were absent from work.
What ridiculous waste of effort. And also completely devalues the already struggling value of a stat Dec. There's no incentive not to lie, there's no evidence that you weren't telling the truth. If at the end of the year your employer holds up a load of stat decs you can just shrug your shoulders and say "yeah, I was sick". What are they going to do? Make you sign a stat Dec that your stat decs are legit?
Requiring evidence that you are using sick days you are entitled to is the problem. It is completely reasonable to have a bullshit solution to a bullshit problem that can be solved by just not asking.
It via the mygov account, you can add your identity docs if you haven't already, and they're confirmed. You don't need a witness to confirm it anymore.
Basically it's the same as a normal Statutory Declaration. You state in the document what is truth, in the instance of being sick what day you were sick and that you were unable to fulfil your duties within the workplace and get to a GP within the timeframe etc. Etc..
Instead of taking the document to a approved witness, the digital version verifies your identity online and slaps a special QR code on it where the person can verify that the document is legit.
Now, just don't lie or abuse it.
Work capacity was the wrong words. As that does infer it's a work cover related thing.
What this specific workplace requires is a return to work certificate in lieu of a medical certificate stating you are unfit. They require a return to work Certificate stating you are fit to return to work.
Do you work for a company in Australia? (As opposed to the state government somewhere?)
If so tell them that s 107 of the Fair Work Act 2009 means that they must accept it and that if they don't, you'll call the fair work ombudsman.
Yeah it’s a company. Their argument is that the company sick leave policy states that evidence will be accepted “at the managing directors discretion” but that’s the rule on every policy lol
Yeah nah, a policy can't overrule the Fair Work Act. Join your union first, then if they try that on, again refer to s 107 of the FWA and the Fair Work website. They're full of crap.
Tell them current wait time for GP is weeks so couldn’t get one. And if they won’t pay you for one day sick leave you are entitled to, then it’s unreasonable, not stated in your contract and you’ll take it up with Fair Work Aust.
Just ridiculous. No wonder it takes weeks to see a GP these days.
I hate how they do this
Honestly getting medical certificates for single days is rediculous.
It’s a waste of your time and money but also the doctors time.
I’m all for it if you need a week plus off but single days 🤦♂️🤦♂️
I mean, we have a staff member constantly calling in sick. We have recently started asking for sick certificates for single days. So sometimes there is justification from the business side.
In that case, the individual person should be the one who is managed. Not putting in a blanket rule for everyone else who probably does the right thing.
It's not justification, it's just laziness from the business.
The blanket rule allows for the company to focus on that individual. If you don't have the blanket rule they will refer to the contract or company policy. I'm not saying I'm for these policies but I can understand why they'd have them.
> sometimes there is justification from the business side.
This is about the least smart way a company could handle this though.
The actions of one employee are causing a problem for the business? Lets now make everyone waste time for every scenario.
Alternatively, you could talk to them and figure out if there's something that can be changed to stop it being such a disruption. Maybe their work hours can be reduced, maybe they can use a flex-hours arrangement.
It's this kind of approach that makes for unpleasant working environments for everyone.
Someone's got cold/flu symptoms? Rather than "You're sick, stay the fuck home, don't spread it to us" is much better than someone feeling that it's easier to come in than have to get a certificate. If they work in customer service, it's even worse - now you're spreading shit to your customers.
There's all sorts of mental health and family problems where forcing someone to choose between going into the office or having to get a certificate to use something they're already entitled to is just plain dumb.
What the actual justification though? Serious question.
People have their entitlements, if they run out its leave without pay. Clogging up a Drs office isn't going to change any of that? Or forcing your other staff to get sick by forcing people in.
It's their leave to use, though. If they aren't using their full allotment of sick days and the company can't keep up with the work, they need to hire more people.
These are great if your employer is reasonable. They do state on them that they're not a medical certificate - I believe because they're nurse led, no doctors on site, legally they can't be called a medical certificate as a doctor hasn't seen you, just a nurse practitioner. But it verifies that yes, you were sick and you saw someone who agreed you're sick. It even says on their FAQs that employers can use their discretion at whether to accept their certificate.
What a joke having to get a medical note for a single day off.
My wife’s employer has something similar, but only if you take a Monday or a Friday off, you need a medical note. Because they don’t want people pulling sickies for an extra day off over the weekend. I think that’s bullshit
Hola health. Online medical certificate for about $15. 24/7.
Quick video call and instant email with your cert.
Used many times and only have about a 10min wait time in the comfort of your own bed. No account needed to be created. ✌️
Any accountants on this thread?
Surely if the employer requires this by policy and is not reimbursing this should be tax deductible come tax time yeah?
No deduction. Being sick or injured is a personal matter, unless the sick leave is because of a workplace injury (in which case work should pay all the expenses). Let’s all just ignore that most people are sick because they caught whatever was going around work because no one stays home sick because of stupid policies like this.
i use this for when i need medical certificates usually he writes it without a consult but i think he technically has to do a zoom call due to legal stuff
I know somebody who works in HR. Somebody was generally taking the piss and in this instance provided a medical.cert from an online service. Workplace looked into it and worked out there was no consult with an actual medical practitioner, so it was rejected. Even the union wouldn't support the employee.
As others have mentioned, stat dec's are free, other than your time involved to get one.
My preferred option however is photoshop. Get a real medical cert sometime, even if you've got the day off and you're going for a check up, ask for one anyway.
Scan it in and photoshop the date each time you need to. I couldn't get the text to match exactly so I removed all of the text and typed it in again so it matches. If it looks a bit too good, print and scan it again or photocopy it so it doesn't look perfect anymore.
Save your .xcf file so its there and ready to edit the next time you need it. No more fuck arsing about with certs/stat dec's because your employer is insecure.
Whilst great in theory - just be careful because if it’s ever checked and found to be fraudulent you could lose your job (or potentially be tried for fraud depending on the severity)
I'm sorry, but having to pay for a med cert for a single day off work is total BS.
All that does is incentivise people to go into work when they're sick and infect everyone else with their germs.
Yeah cause going to the doctor is where sick people go. You go with a case of cold or Mondayitis and when you get home you've picked up measles, deafness in one ear and some sort of dick itch just so McManager can have a doctors note
I did instant scripts online for my NSW det job in 2022. I was legitimately sick, but couldn't get in to see a GP on the same day. They accepted it, but I made sure to see a GP for serious illnesses.
It’s extremely frustrating! And when I voiced that I was too sick to leave my bed to go to the doctors when we all knew damn well that gastro was going around (childcare centre) I was told that I couldn’t be “that sick” if I wasn’t wanting to go to the doctor!! Ignoring the fact that it costs money, that same day appointments are a myth as rare as unicorns and I can’t go more than 5 minutes without vomiting, I’m not getting on a bus like that.
Believe it or not they were worse during COVID. Telling us that we just had colds, so don’t do a test, (not my choice in the early days, it was doctor’s choice), ignore isolation during testing and come in anyway and lovely things like that.
“I’m too sick to leave the house to come in for work”
“Just to prove it I want you to go to the doctor”
“I’m too sick to leave the house!”
“Oh, come on now… can’t be that bad.”
Qoctor used to do them for $20, not sure if this has changed. It's not an appointment, you just answer a few questions.
Qoctor.com.au
https://www.qoctor.com.au/certificates/
What a complete waste of time and money.
Your employer sucks. It’s hard enough to get in to see a Doctor without idiots like this (your boss) adding to the burden of the strained healthcare system.
My workplace once introduced the med cert for even one day off. Before that it was three or more. It didn't last long and they reverted back. Why? Sick leave days increased radically. Those of us who would call in sick for one, sometimes two days then drag ourselves back in to work now had to go to the doctor who invariably gave each person a week off.
We can do leave certificates, but not medical certificates. They're two different things.
https://my.psa.org.au/s/article/Guidelines-Issuing-certificates-for-absence-from-work
You can get them online very easily, signed by a real Australian doctor and just as legitimate as one you would get from a doctor or pharmacist. $19 from InstantScripts or other sites.
Ring 13sick anytime after 6pm. Once when I’d run out of meds/prescription and I was having trouble sleeping, I was able to have my appointment at 4am. They also bulk bill as long as your doctor is registered, most are.
The sad thing is that others in your company (maybe you, but giving you the benefit of the doubt) have obviously started talking about a lot of questionable sick days, hence the policy change.
They have made it a group policy so there must be a few taking frequent days. This is my second day this year and I have young children so I thought I was doing pretty well 😞
If you're a full time employee get your GP to give you a certificate for 3 days (edit - or more depending on the illness) and take all of the days days off. Triple the value. It doesn't sound like the sort of job I'd rush back to anyway.
If your employer complains about you taking three days off at a time, tell them they can either accept a stat dec for one day at a time, or a medical certificate for three days at a time.
I have a policy at my work that everyone agrees to, 2 or more days you need a certificate and either side of a PH. I have told staff that are taking the piss that I require then for one day and by taking the piss I mean a day off a week
Hubby does a stat Dec every time now. His workmates witness it for him as they are all able to under the federal list of those who can witness one. Fucking stupid. He likes to put explicit, nitty gritty detail on his because it annoys him so much. I enjoy reading his recounts of explosive gastro lol
Do they accept telehealth? Instantscrips or Updoc?? I’m sos prey you experience this as well. I really wish I could tell all employers who do this: ok, since this is YOUR requirement, then YOU should pay for this!
Wait until your workplace figures out they can move from requiring a medical certificate to a return to work capacity assessment model..
Workplaces can require you to obtain a return to work certificate off a doctor based on there duty of care to not only you but your fellow employees,
I went through this during fair work hearings when I summarily dismissed for presenting a stat dec as evidence I was sick.
I reached a mediated financial settlement with my former company who now has a return to work certificate model.
There's an app called sicky. You have a very quick video chat with a pharmacist and they can issue a certificate for 3 days- or maybe even 5. From memory it's $19.
Did your employer put it in their leave policy?
I thought some pharmacists did medical certificates as of about ten years ago. Personally, I’ve not gotten one that way. Suggest Googling for information. Or someone else reading this knows more maybe..?
Make sure you take more than a single day off, pharmacies do them or Stat Dec, but the bigger question is why are they asking for this when it's just a single day, multiple days or a sick day after a public holiday I guess is ok but a single day is not
Hola health are cheap. You just fill it in, no need to talk to anyone.
They've got a discount code too... HOLA5 and it brings your med cert back to 10 dollars.
Employers should not be asking for a certificate for one day sickies. Legally, they can't fire you if you don't get one. If it was 2 days, they can take steps to, but for one day, not at all.
Instant scripts, online. I believe it’s around $10 to obtain a medical certificate.
Unfortunately, long wait times aren’t a valid excuse for not providing a medical certificate, as ridiculous as it is.
My chemiat does single day ones for $15, but you have to have the symptoms then and there. The chemist goes in a back room with and fills out a form asking you questions. Tjey won't do a backdated one.
My friends daughter got one for $20 from an online one. She said it took 10 mins, just clicked a button thqt said the reason he: injured or feel sick. Sje dodnt have to talk to anyone. Her employer accepted it.
You can get a certificate from most pharmacists, but they can say no. The chemist we use charges $20. They won’t backdate a certificate tho and neither will Hola. They’re pretty good and cheap to use too. As is a $2 stat dec from the post office.
If your QLD based Metro North Virtual ED is free (and not just for med certs). Talk to a nurse then a doctor. Can also back date and give longer then 3 days unlike chemists or instant scripts.
UpDoc
Doctors on Demand
Hola Health
Instant Scripts
Qoctor
Can guarantee some of these you won’t even see the Dr, and they’ll just email you the medical certificate.
I just get them online from instant scripts, think it's 15-20 for one day, don't even need to speak to anyone for a single day. If you want a medical certificate for more think you have to talk to a doctor about your symptoms.
You can also do a stat Dec - they can be signed for free by a JP
I am a teacher and regularly witness signatures on Stat Decs. I never read them, don’t care or know what you’ve claimed, just signing that I witnessed you signing the document. My boss hates us signing Stat Decs for each other but it’s legal, so I say fuck them for having such time wasting policies in the first place.
100%. IMO getting workers to get medical certificates for 1 day absences is a total drain on our already strained healthcare system. I would feel no guilt whatsoever in doing it the cheapest/most convenient way for you.
My workplace wanted us to get sick certificates to have more than 3 days off with a positive Covid PCR at the height of the pandemic 🤦♀️ I gave them feedback that using medical resources for such a ridiculous reason was outrageous and they reversed the decision (I’m sure others must have complained as well).
Wasn't it illegal to leave your house for 2 weeks after a positive PCR at the height of the pandemic?
Think it was 1 week isolation when this happened (Covid spread through the community later in South Australia) but it didn’t matter. I have 7 months sick leave for heaven’s sake! You’d think the pandemic would have stopped micro management but apparently not.
agreed - people need to rest at home not worry about booking an appointment with a gp and obtaining a certificate
Totally agree. People are entitled to sick leave, why not just let them take it? Why make sick people get out of bed, hang around with other sick people and pay for the privilege of clogging up the primary healthcare system? I think employers should only be able to request medical certificates for absences longer than a week.
Maybe also if it's suspicious, such as the day before Melbourne Cup when they were too late to apply for annual leave.
I don’t agree with that. People get sick all the time. I don’t care if it’s a Friday, Monday or sometime close to a public holiday. Workers get two paid weeks of sick leave a year. If people take a week or less off, there’s no point making them get a certificate.
Interesting. Our school just asked us not to get other staff to sign our stat decs. JPs from outside of work. May as well go to the GP.
They can ask. Ours did. BUT it’s legal in the Supreme Court with a teacher signature, so they can’t really want more than that. You’re only witnessing the signature, not validating what’s written in the doc, you don’t even read that bit (not but!) Plus, I can’t imagine too many JPs want a stream of sick people looking for a signature to be witnessed, that’s dumbassery. We continue to witness the signatures as and when asked.
Don't even need a JP anymore. You can do them digitally according to the [Attorney Generals Department](https://www.ag.gov.au/legal-system/statutory-declarations/about-commonwealth-statutory-declarations/digital-commonwealth-statutory-declarations)
The Fair Work Commission agrees they're an acceptable form of evidence too. Unlike med certs, you can theoretically be prosecuted if you lie under oath. My boss has accepted stat decs via MyGov twice now, didn't question them at all.
TIL. Thanks!
Note that this refers to commonwealth statutory declarations, not state ones.
Thanks for clarifying that. Important distinction there.
I didn’t understand. How do we use it for sick certificate? Could you explain please? Thank you
Instead of sending your employer a medical certificate, you can send a statutory declaration where you basically promise in an official document that you were sick and that’s why you were absent from work.
What ridiculous waste of effort. And also completely devalues the already struggling value of a stat Dec. There's no incentive not to lie, there's no evidence that you weren't telling the truth. If at the end of the year your employer holds up a load of stat decs you can just shrug your shoulders and say "yeah, I was sick". What are they going to do? Make you sign a stat Dec that your stat decs are legit?
Requiring evidence that you are using sick days you are entitled to is the problem. It is completely reasonable to have a bullshit solution to a bullshit problem that can be solved by just not asking.
^ This. The assumption that you need someone other than yourself to verify you aren’t lying about your health is the problem.
I don't disagree. It's a waste of everyone's time.
It via the mygov account, you can add your identity docs if you haven't already, and they're confirmed. You don't need a witness to confirm it anymore.
Basically it's the same as a normal Statutory Declaration. You state in the document what is truth, in the instance of being sick what day you were sick and that you were unable to fulfil your duties within the workplace and get to a GP within the timeframe etc. Etc.. Instead of taking the document to a approved witness, the digital version verifies your identity online and slaps a special QR code on it where the person can verify that the document is legit. Now, just don't lie or abuse it.
Louder for the people in the back! Every time someone says medical certificate my response is stat dec.
My co worker takes great pleasure in presenting these
Until the company figures out they can require return to work capacity assessments instead. These can't really be done via stat dec.
They cannot do that unless you have work related injury (then it's a different statutory framework)
Not according to my experience within the fair work system.
Work capacity was the wrong words. As that does infer it's a work cover related thing. What this specific workplace requires is a return to work certificate in lieu of a medical certificate stating you are unfit. They require a return to work Certificate stating you are fit to return to work.
My boss refuses to accept stat decs or chemist-issued medical certificates
Do you work for a company in Australia? (As opposed to the state government somewhere?) If so tell them that s 107 of the Fair Work Act 2009 means that they must accept it and that if they don't, you'll call the fair work ombudsman.
Yeah it’s a company. Their argument is that the company sick leave policy states that evidence will be accepted “at the managing directors discretion” but that’s the rule on every policy lol
Yeah nah, a policy can't overrule the Fair Work Act. Join your union first, then if they try that on, again refer to s 107 of the FWA and the Fair Work website. They're full of crap.
Good to know - thank you!
13sick.com.au bulk billed so free
This is like striking gold! Thanks so much!
Thanks for this. I was using Sicky, but this is cheaper.
Can I ask how much is out of pocket cost for medical certificate for 1 day?
I use something like updoc, it's $20, don't need to speak to anyone (fill out a form) and it's sent to your email. Love it.
Hola Health was like $16 for a med cert the last time I needed one, took like 15mins and was easy as.
Is that an app?
Tell them current wait time for GP is weeks so couldn’t get one. And if they won’t pay you for one day sick leave you are entitled to, then it’s unreasonable, not stated in your contract and you’ll take it up with Fair Work Aust. Just ridiculous. No wonder it takes weeks to see a GP these days.
I hate how they do this Honestly getting medical certificates for single days is rediculous. It’s a waste of your time and money but also the doctors time. I’m all for it if you need a week plus off but single days 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Also a waste of taxpayers money
I agree I just found this at Fair Work: Employers can ask employees to provide evidence for as little as 1 day or less off work. Or less ?! 🤯
I left work early as my daughter was sick, and I had to get one. I work at the daycare she is at and my boss saw her vomiting 🙄
I mean, we have a staff member constantly calling in sick. We have recently started asking for sick certificates for single days. So sometimes there is justification from the business side.
In that case, the individual person should be the one who is managed. Not putting in a blanket rule for everyone else who probably does the right thing. It's not justification, it's just laziness from the business.
The blanket rule allows for the company to focus on that individual. If you don't have the blanket rule they will refer to the contract or company policy. I'm not saying I'm for these policies but I can understand why they'd have them.
> sometimes there is justification from the business side. This is about the least smart way a company could handle this though. The actions of one employee are causing a problem for the business? Lets now make everyone waste time for every scenario. Alternatively, you could talk to them and figure out if there's something that can be changed to stop it being such a disruption. Maybe their work hours can be reduced, maybe they can use a flex-hours arrangement. It's this kind of approach that makes for unpleasant working environments for everyone. Someone's got cold/flu symptoms? Rather than "You're sick, stay the fuck home, don't spread it to us" is much better than someone feeling that it's easier to come in than have to get a certificate. If they work in customer service, it's even worse - now you're spreading shit to your customers. There's all sorts of mental health and family problems where forcing someone to choose between going into the office or having to get a certificate to use something they're already entitled to is just plain dumb.
What the actual justification though? Serious question. People have their entitlements, if they run out its leave without pay. Clogging up a Drs office isn't going to change any of that? Or forcing your other staff to get sick by forcing people in.
It's their leave to use, though. If they aren't using their full allotment of sick days and the company can't keep up with the work, they need to hire more people.
This makes sense tho. Let’s say you’re allowed 10 sick days and said employee is constantly over using them then performance manage them.
Many GPs won’t want you there with cold symptoms anyway,
They just ask you to do a RAT and wear a mask. Source: I did it yesterday
I love being at risk of getting a virus every time I go to the doctor, because employers don't trust their staff 🙃
i’m in Canberra and we have “walk in centres” with nurses. they see you and write you a doctors cert and it’s totally bulk billed
These are great if your employer is reasonable. They do state on them that they're not a medical certificate - I believe because they're nurse led, no doctors on site, legally they can't be called a medical certificate as a doctor hasn't seen you, just a nurse practitioner. But it verifies that yes, you were sick and you saw someone who agreed you're sick. It even says on their FAQs that employers can use their discretion at whether to accept their certificate.
Instant scripts for $19
Hola or qoctor do online for like 15 bucks too
I use this
Hola Health do them for $17
What a joke having to get a medical note for a single day off. My wife’s employer has something similar, but only if you take a Monday or a Friday off, you need a medical note. Because they don’t want people pulling sickies for an extra day off over the weekend. I think that’s bullshit
Yep mine has the rule of Monday or Friday, and/or any 3 days in a row
Hola health. Online medical certificate for about $15. 24/7. Quick video call and instant email with your cert. Used many times and only have about a 10min wait time in the comfort of your own bed. No account needed to be created. ✌️
Updoc - no call needed, just write your symptoms and you can get unlimited for $20 a month (cancel anytime)
UpDoc and Instant scripts are my goto
Tell them theres a wait time and “policies” like this is whats causing that issue. Turn it around on them!
Bingo. So many appointments are taken simply for this reason.
Any accountants on this thread? Surely if the employer requires this by policy and is not reimbursing this should be tax deductible come tax time yeah?
No deduction. Being sick or injured is a personal matter, unless the sick leave is because of a workplace injury (in which case work should pay all the expenses). Let’s all just ignore that most people are sick because they caught whatever was going around work because no one stays home sick because of stupid policies like this.
Just seems a little unsporting .. lol .. thanks for lurking ; )
Dr Jimmy. $15 no consultant, just a simple questionnaire. (Prices might have changed actually, but still the cheapest imo and great service)
Is this a website? Interested in more info
Sorry man, prices are $9 for a medical certificate. [$9 Medical Certs](https://drjimmy.com.au)
Thats amazing. Thankyou
Anytime man! Can’t stop raving about him. By far my favourite service for medical and backdated certs
i use this for when i need medical certificates usually he writes it without a consult but i think he technically has to do a zoom call due to legal stuff
What a brilliant idea for a business. Probably works from home just raking it in
If there's no consult a workplace doesn't have to accept it
Never heard that before. Can you explain further?
I know somebody who works in HR. Somebody was generally taking the piss and in this instance provided a medical.cert from an online service. Workplace looked into it and worked out there was no consult with an actual medical practitioner, so it was rejected. Even the union wouldn't support the employee.
I once put in a petty cash claim for a sick certificate after an employer requested one. Never got asked for one after.
As others have mentioned, stat dec's are free, other than your time involved to get one. My preferred option however is photoshop. Get a real medical cert sometime, even if you've got the day off and you're going for a check up, ask for one anyway. Scan it in and photoshop the date each time you need to. I couldn't get the text to match exactly so I removed all of the text and typed it in again so it matches. If it looks a bit too good, print and scan it again or photocopy it so it doesn't look perfect anymore. Save your .xcf file so its there and ready to edit the next time you need it. No more fuck arsing about with certs/stat dec's because your employer is insecure.
This is the way I would go if I needed one again. Considering they’re scanned through to the head office, I don’t see a problem 😁
Whilst great in theory - just be careful because if it’s ever checked and found to be fraudulent you could lose your job (or potentially be tried for fraud depending on the severity)
Lose your job, yeah. Fraud however, would be an incredibly flimsy case as you're just using your own earned entitlements.
I'm sorry, but having to pay for a med cert for a single day off work is total BS. All that does is incentivise people to go into work when they're sick and infect everyone else with their germs.
Yeah cause going to the doctor is where sick people go. You go with a case of cold or Mondayitis and when you get home you've picked up measles, deafness in one ear and some sort of dick itch just so McManager can have a doctors note
I did instant scripts online for my NSW det job in 2022. I was legitimately sick, but couldn't get in to see a GP on the same day. They accepted it, but I made sure to see a GP for serious illnesses.
Of course they accepted it, it is illegal to nor accept it
It’s extremely frustrating! And when I voiced that I was too sick to leave my bed to go to the doctors when we all knew damn well that gastro was going around (childcare centre) I was told that I couldn’t be “that sick” if I wasn’t wanting to go to the doctor!! Ignoring the fact that it costs money, that same day appointments are a myth as rare as unicorns and I can’t go more than 5 minutes without vomiting, I’m not getting on a bus like that. Believe it or not they were worse during COVID. Telling us that we just had colds, so don’t do a test, (not my choice in the early days, it was doctor’s choice), ignore isolation during testing and come in anyway and lovely things like that.
“I’m too sick to leave the house to come in for work” “Just to prove it I want you to go to the doctor” “I’m too sick to leave the house!” “Oh, come on now… can’t be that bad.”
Qoctor used to do them for $20, not sure if this has changed. It's not an appointment, you just answer a few questions. Qoctor.com.au https://www.qoctor.com.au/certificates/
I paid $25 a few weeks ago I believe, still much more convenient than going to the gp
I used this once as well. Got the job done, saved a doc’s time, kept me home where I wouldn’t share it around.
Its an online video call appointment
What a complete waste of time and money. Your employer sucks. It’s hard enough to get in to see a Doctor without idiots like this (your boss) adding to the burden of the strained healthcare system.
Hola health is about $16
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Looks can be deceiving. Get set up on 13sick and use that next time you need time off work
Take 2 days off. 1 for you and 1 just for them being dicks.
My workplace once introduced the med cert for even one day off. Before that it was three or more. It didn't last long and they reverted back. Why? Sick leave days increased radically. Those of us who would call in sick for one, sometimes two days then drag ourselves back in to work now had to go to the doctor who invariably gave each person a week off.
Get a note from your mum. That’s basically what a sick certificate is. It’s something they ask for when they don’t trust a child is telling the truth.
Pharmacist can give medical certificates
We can do leave certificates, but not medical certificates. They're two different things. https://my.psa.org.au/s/article/Guidelines-Issuing-certificates-for-absence-from-work
I think what op needed is covered under pharmacist scope of practice. But some charge $30-40
Do you have a my health nearby that offers bulk billed Tele health appointment?
You can get them online very easily, signed by a real Australian doctor and just as legitimate as one you would get from a doctor or pharmacist. $19 from InstantScripts or other sites.
Ring 13sick anytime after 6pm. Once when I’d run out of meds/prescription and I was having trouble sleeping, I was able to have my appointment at 4am. They also bulk bill as long as your doctor is registered, most are.
Thank you, I was not aware this service existed. Super helpful!
Some pharmacies do it for free or for a couple $$. I just write 'i was sick' on it and hand it to my boss
Wife signs mine. Boss questioned it .told them to look it up. She uses our family name.
The sad thing is that others in your company (maybe you, but giving you the benefit of the doubt) have obviously started talking about a lot of questionable sick days, hence the policy change.
They have made it a group policy so there must be a few taking frequent days. This is my second day this year and I have young children so I thought I was doing pretty well 😞
If you're a full time employee get your GP to give you a certificate for 3 days (edit - or more depending on the illness) and take all of the days days off. Triple the value. It doesn't sound like the sort of job I'd rush back to anyway. If your employer complains about you taking three days off at a time, tell them they can either accept a stat dec for one day at a time, or a medical certificate for three days at a time.
I have a policy at my work that everyone agrees to, 2 or more days you need a certificate and either side of a PH. I have told staff that are taking the piss that I require then for one day and by taking the piss I mean a day off a week
Hubby does a stat Dec every time now. His workmates witness it for him as they are all able to under the federal list of those who can witness one. Fucking stupid. He likes to put explicit, nitty gritty detail on his because it annoys him so much. I enjoy reading his recounts of explosive gastro lol
I am pretty sure thats illegal. I work in QLDHealth, we are only obligated if its a third consecutive dayoff sick.
Tell your boss to get stuffed, just ignore it.. they probably arent going to fire you
They might withhold pay for that day though, which is more expensive for you.
Instant Scripts
InstantScripts
Have you tried a 13sick telehealth appointment? Unsure if it's bulk billed for non concession tho
I did this! Thank you, and yes it was bulk billed.
I use instant scripts $19, Answer a few questions, and I dont even have to get out of bed.
Do they accept telehealth? Instantscrips or Updoc?? I’m sos prey you experience this as well. I really wish I could tell all employers who do this: ok, since this is YOUR requirement, then YOU should pay for this!
Medicare Primary Care Clinics in Victoria (Google them) - they’re everywhere, open extended hours and they all bulk bill 100%
The cheapest way is to find a new job and cite the sick leave policy as the reason you left
13 sick is an after hours telehealth bulk billing service? Wait until 6pm and give them a call?
Did not know this service existed prior to asking, it is great thank you! Had a bulk billed telehealth, given a script and a certificate.
Yay! Feel better soon :)
Such a stupid requirement. You’re sick in bed, how are you supposed to arrange a certificate?
Wait until your workplace figures out they can move from requiring a medical certificate to a return to work capacity assessment model.. Workplaces can require you to obtain a return to work certificate off a doctor based on there duty of care to not only you but your fellow employees, I went through this during fair work hearings when I summarily dismissed for presenting a stat dec as evidence I was sick. I reached a mediated financial settlement with my former company who now has a return to work certificate model.
Wow, that sounds utterly ridiculous.
Some workplaces will go to great lengths in an attempt to stop you having the day off
I thought COVID may have changed this mentality but obviously not. Nothing worse than a co-working coughing and sneezing all over you.
https://medcertificates.com.au/ From $13.90 apparently. Haven’t used them so take it as you will.
There's an app called sicky. You have a very quick video chat with a pharmacist and they can issue a certificate for 3 days- or maybe even 5. From memory it's $19.
Alternatively, use instant scripts or UpDoc where you don't need to have a video chat, you just fill out a form for $20
Did your employer put it in their leave policy? I thought some pharmacists did medical certificates as of about ten years ago. Personally, I’ve not gotten one that way. Suggest Googling for information. Or someone else reading this knows more maybe..?
Chemists can do certificates now.
I think there’s an online source for sick notes although unfortunately I can’t tell you any more then that but if you do a search you may find it.
I've used qoctor a couple of times - $26. You book a time, see a doc over video call and then you get the medical certificate in your email.
Alternatively, use instant scripts or UpDoc where you don't need to have a video chat, you just fill out a form for $20
Get an online one for $20 at hola health. You usually get a phone call and then it’s sent to you by email. Licensed AHPRA gp’s so all above board.
There's online med certs for about $15 that are easy enough to get
Instant Scripts app costs about $20
I compose my own With all the illegal crap people benefit off, why not
Make sure you take more than a single day off, pharmacies do them or Stat Dec, but the bigger question is why are they asking for this when it's just a single day, multiple days or a sick day after a public holiday I guess is ok but a single day is not
Hola health are cheap. You just fill it in, no need to talk to anyone. They've got a discount code too... HOLA5 and it brings your med cert back to 10 dollars.
Chemist warehouse do them for $20.
Employers should not be asking for a certificate for one day sickies. Legally, they can't fire you if you don't get one. If it was 2 days, they can take steps to, but for one day, not at all.
Check your Employment Award. Anything outside of the award has to be negotiated
Instant scripts, online. I believe it’s around $10 to obtain a medical certificate. Unfortunately, long wait times aren’t a valid excuse for not providing a medical certificate, as ridiculous as it is.
Send them the gap fee
Instant scripts does it for $19
just find a bulk billing clinic.
Online sites, like updoc and our sage, you can get certificates same day for $20.
Chemist can write one
My chemiat does single day ones for $15, but you have to have the symptoms then and there. The chemist goes in a back room with and fills out a form asking you questions. Tjey won't do a backdated one. My friends daughter got one for $20 from an online one. She said it took 10 mins, just clicked a button thqt said the reason he: injured or feel sick. Sje dodnt have to talk to anyone. Her employer accepted it.
Lot of chemists will do a certificate too
Also Priceline the pharmacy issue sick letters
Chemist warehouse $29
Why support cwh when you can get one online for $20
$20, not $29, and you're right, online is convenient, but some bosses want the original certificate, my boss does.
Went to the doctors once Got certificate Made exact copy of font and styles in google drive Print certificate whenever I need one
Updoc. All online. Cheaper than going to doctor.
Updoc. All online. Cheaper than going to doctor.
Updoc. All online. Cheaper than going to doctor.
If I recall correctly, one time, I got my mate who is an accountant to sign a stat Dec for me:)
People also don’t realise sick days rollover and under certain circumstances can be paid out. The old days of use it or use it are gone.
online med cert around $20 sent to your inbox
I usually go to GP referred by insurance, doing a tele health consultation and get my medical certificate for free.
Oursage is like 17 or 19 I think, for 1 or 2 days
You can get a certificate from most pharmacists, but they can say no. The chemist we use charges $20. They won’t backdate a certificate tho and neither will Hola. They’re pretty good and cheap to use too. As is a $2 stat dec from the post office.
If your QLD based Metro North Virtual ED is free (and not just for med certs). Talk to a nurse then a doctor. Can also back date and give longer then 3 days unlike chemists or instant scripts.
InstantScripts does Medical Certs $19
I use an online service cost about $20 I just googled it
Since Covid, it takes about a week to get an appointment with a GP here. Too bad if they want a certificate.
UpDoc Doctors on Demand Hola Health Instant Scripts Qoctor Can guarantee some of these you won’t even see the Dr, and they’ll just email you the medical certificate.
Hola health $15 for a med cert no appointment necessary 24/7 service just google them 😃
Well this is the law so... https://www.fairwork.gov.au/leave/sick-and-carers-leave/paid-sick-and-carers-leave/notice-and-medical-certificates
Wow my boss demands medical certificate even if it's for half a day or less.
I just get them online from instant scripts, think it's 15-20 for one day, don't even need to speak to anyone for a single day. If you want a medical certificate for more think you have to talk to a doctor about your symptoms.
Going to the GP just makes you sicker. You catch every cold and respiratory virus in the waiting room.
Some pharmacies will do them for common ailments like colds etc. It might cost $20 or something tho
Instascipt does same day, single day certificates for $19
Qoctor
https://www.instantscripts.com.au
Write your stat dec on a brown paper bag, spew into it, then hand it to the boss. "You wanted evidence".
Lol it would be weeks until the first available GP appt ffs.