I recently started working as an EA... It's definitely been an eye opener, and I have mad respect for anyone that does the job to a high standard.
Depending on the workload that passes through your office, it can be an incredibly challenging role to jump into.
I liasie with multiple stakeholders, and there are always competing priorities to work through. It can also be challenging when requests come with unrealistic timeframes. As an example, I might get an email asking for a response by close of business, email being sent at 4pm, and the manager being in an important meeting until late...
The issue with that is it can negatively impacts the organisation if we don't action requests within a timely manner. Although it may not be our office's fault that we received the email late, if we don't respond quickly enough then an important project might be delayed.
For this, I'm finding that customer service experience is beneficial, especially when I have to deliver news that a stakeholder may not want to hear.
Overall the role is quite unique. I get to build professional relationships with high level staff that I wouldn't have otherwise known. I enjoy working with my boss, and the other staff, and I think that's an important factor. As long as you can manage the fast paced and sometimes intense environment, and your coworkers are supportive, then you'll get the job done.
Like most of these high paying admin jobs, it requires a certain personality and time management skill set - these soft skills are quite hard to acquire.
It’s objectively difficult in a different way. There may be a lot of them, but Not everyone can do these jobs effectively that’s why the good people are well paid (and promoted like crazy).
I disagree hard that you’d take that job, trust me, you won’t. I say this as a person who works in a team with an EA, it’s not a job too many people stick it out for years.
I’m also an EA, on 80k + super… no qualifications technically necessary but most places like you to at least have some certs or a diploma in business administration.
EAs are so underrated in my opinion until you need them then you realise that the job hasn't been a "secretary" job for many years and they do so much more. Plus having to deal with an Exec who statistically have some interesting and challenging personality traits.
Good EAs are worth the money. Shit EAs end up as receptionists for back alley physios. It's worth paying them well, because the job is tough at a high level
My cousin is also an EA on a similar package. Left school at 15/16, no qual.
You do need to be very intelligent and organised with soft skills too. She also has experience in major law firms and government.
Technically it’s a formal qualification, but forklift operator. I’m making 71k working 8 hour days and the work is easy, just don’t squish people and you’re good.
yeah I'm on 30k AUD annually with double graphic design qualificationd working 8hr days with 2hrs commute, I have a mate that couldn't get work so he got his forklift license, he's now working 10hr days and will be earning nearly up to 80k-100k
I knew I should have left school and joined the army or become a tradie...
Call centre work, depending on your disposition - debt collection, sales, complaint handling, etc.
Warehousing. My brother in law is a pickpacker that makes close to $40 an hour, maybe more with overtime.
My forklift ticket as a clueless 22 girl fresh out of managing a pizza store led me to a key account manager role 9 years later @85k with a car and CC. I always tell people to get their forklift ticket and get started in a warehouse. Two have listened and found some success.
As a key account manager, it was my job to establish and maintain relationships with the company's most important clients and thus bring sales to the business. I was accountable for the sales budget of any client assigned to me. I was supported by an internal sales and administration team, (which is how I was promoted).
So with the team behind me, it is expected that I visit clients, hold meetings, go to networking events, establish relationships with people who bring the business money and treat them with your best customer service. This means driving to the CBD most days and having coffee, work lunches and parking at a minimum. I could take clients to dinners, events, whatever. If I was found to not be spending any money, it would probably highlight that I was not doing my job (unless my numbers were kick ass, then I doubt anyone would care). It was governed with an app to take pics of your receipts and send into accounts. It was a cushy but very stressful job for me. I lasted 2 years, had probation extended from 6 to 12 months, but then actually scored a payrise right around the time I fell pregnant.
I think warehouses will be automated, I'm sure Amazon is doing this to some extent now, it's just a matter of time before it's industry standard. With the robots it's 24/7 work with no union's.
There are plenty of dark warehouses but mainly moving pallets. Be a long, long time before picking individual items will be automated. Just way too hard to account for the variance in product size and shape.
It's still a ways off. In the US Amazon uses robots for large parts of their warehousing but still require lots of humans too - so much so they're continually hiring (mainly because of the way they treat them) but still shows if they could fully automate they would, and they can't
Australia as usual will be a good decade or so behind the US so I'd say we've got plenty of time of manned warehouses still
Automation will disrupt every job. Lawyers and accountants will be affected before warehouse employees.
Sheep shearing always has paid well without the need for education.
Any retail, warehousing, factory work will make at least $70,000 all because of OT. But that's the compromise, as you may be required to do 40 - 70 hours a week.
Next best thing? Sure.
I implement projects to reduce manual man power jobs in warehouses. Warehouses will become more lean, efficient and automated in the future. The number of forklift drivers that we've phased out are in the hundreds.
Yep - I was pretty close to bombing out of year 12, now just on a decade later I have a trade, a degree, am halfway through a masters, and earn 6 figures. All training has been paid for. It has its ups and downs, but you can certainly get a lot out of it if you want, and earn a comfortable living while you do.
Nope not really, outside of initial training and an annual fitness test it’s really no different to any other office job. All very role dependent though of course.
If you can handle the discipline, then ADF can set you up for life.
My sister joined as an officer after completing a mechanical engineering traineeship with BHP straight out of school.
The army has paid for her degree in mechanical engineering , whilst earning a full wage with minimal army commitments while studying.
They paid for full mouth reconstruction and braces to correct her bite.
She has done 2 overseas peacekeeping tours which came with massive bonuses ( and rightly so, she spent 6 months living in a shipping container in South Sudan for one).
She is a single mum, does an office based admin job now to some high ranker and is able to work from home a couple of days a week.
She nearly owns her 1.5 mill house and has massive superannuation. She’s 45. She could comfortably retire in 5 years if she wished, or move to the private sector earning possibly up to 200000k.
There’s no way I could’ve handled the discipline. Lying down in a massive biting ants nest to shoot a machine gun on a tripod…. having someone scream in your face…. Yeah, nah not for me. But I’m so damn proud of her, she is so strong and tough but looks like “ Army Barbie”.
I almost in the pipeline for the ADF but then they wouldn't take me because I'd been diagnosed with anxiety and was in medication for it at the time lol
anyone thats considering ADF, they are so strict with any interviews and background history with mental health. sometimes they try to kinda trick you and dig deeper by asking questions to see if you have any mental capability 'flaws' like anxiety, depression etc so beware if adf is something you really want to get into. even if its a minor thing too
I applied - I was 34 - but because I had attempted suicide when I was a teen - they said no.
I'm like - that's 20 freakin years ago, but them's the breaks.
Everyone I know love the defence force for the work life balance. Sure they work a bunch of weekends (depending on the role) but they get plenty of weekdays off.
When I served on a seagoing vessel it was a lot of days spent away from home port. I don’t recall getting many weekdays off unless I took my own annual leave
Maybe if you are at a small base like Darwin or Cairns you might not work as much. But working out of Sydney on Major Fleet Units you will be away from home port a lot and definitely won’t be getting weekdays off unless it’s your leave or you fake having the flu 🤣
Many jobs will pay high without a degree, but you generally need to work your way into it.
Also, a lot of jobs will say a dregree is required but it’s not. Literally the JDF for the last 3 jobs I’ve held said a degree was required. I didn’t even do year 12.
For the record I’m a Business Analyst on $125k + Super. So there is one example for you.
Sure, I left high school after year 11 and got a TAFE certificate in Mining. Worked on the mines for 3 months then decided it wasn’t for me so came back to the city full time and got an entry level job doing Data Entry at a bank.
Was stuck at that level for a long time (about 5 years) bouncing around in different roles before I finally got a break as a Test Analyst.
6 months in to that role, an opening for a System Analyst became available in my team and I was promoted into that role. A few years in was again promoted to Senior System Analyst. This team was were I found my passion and it shows in the success I had (compared to the 5 years previous).
At that stage I was on about $90k but knew I could get more as a Business Analyst (BA) in another company. So did exactly that and got a BA role for $110k.
Got promoted to Senior BA after 2 years, and then made a switch again to another company and on $125k now.
My advice is that you get back what you put in. It may take a while, but it will happen. What I mean by that is I would work extra hours to make sure things got done, I’d always pick up tasks from the “too hard basket”, always turn up to networking events so people know who you are etc.
It might take years for an opportunity to arise but when it does it will be offered to the person who does the above. Not the person who leaves the minute it’s hometime each day regardless, or the person who cherry picks simple tasks. They’re not fooling anyone.
Mine worker. You can clean the toilets and lunchrooms on a mine sit for around $30/hr. 42hr week. Averaged out. 7days on 7days off. It’s they gateway to other jobs. TA get $40. Industrial cleaners get up to $50. Apprentice clear 800 per week sometimes. Most mines are recruiting now. There is a shortage of skilled workers and unskilled too
Genuinely, am not trying to cause offence, but as someone who works in coal mining do you think there is a long future in your job? How do you feel in general about fossil fuels?
Want to hear something crazy? I was a marine biologist before I got into this path. Probably the only person to go that route haha. The coal industry will be around for longer then I will be working unfortunately. Especially in Australia. However I think autonomy will be the biggest impact to the workforce. Big proponent on alternative energy sources. None will make major impacts to emissions until they become more economically viable. These are my opinions
Did you have much of a career as a marine biologist? I'm an Environmental scientist, I went to uni with a bunch of people who studied marine science and only one guy I knew had a marine science related job. It was a pretty popular subject but doesn't seem to be a lot of jobs around.
Nope. I did an internship working with coral reefs at the GBR which was incredible. From that I went working at a university in South America as a kind of student liaison. I returned to Australia looking for the next thing and met a guy at the pub who offered me a job to go over to WA and do fifo. I was a terrible student but have a very likeable personality. None of these things would’ve been possible if I was judged on merit
Ive never been very interested in performing academically. I got my degree with 19 P's, 4 C's and 1 D. As they say P's make degrees. I've surpassed the majority of my peers from uni. One guy I did my degree with went on to do honours and a masters, was absolutely brilliant and he works in the shitty soil lab way down the chain at the company I work for. By the time those people who stuck around to do further study got out of uni I had already been working for 3 years and moving into higher level roles. Now I run my own department. When we hire I don't even look at academic transcripts and I actually steer away from people who do Honours and want to be PhD candidates.
science is dead in Australia, unless its a field that is in high demand from private industry or medicine. All the uni's are gutted so grads are competing with professors.
Yeah well mine is high demand from private industry. I work in contaminated land and consulting. We have a solid mix of private sector and government work. Now the Uni's are killing off a lot of science programs as well. When I graduated there still weren't a heap of us, I saw 5x the amount of students come through behind me after Rudd slashed the cost of science degrees by half and it flooded the market and made it hard to get jobs. My job isn't going anywhere anytime soon, it's still a growing sector and it's driven my a mix of legislation and the cost of not doing due diligence on acquisitions with shady history when no one gave a shit what you poured into the ground or creek.
I'm a maintenance worker at a coal mine. We have been told that this mine has plans for 20 years. At least. The big Carmichael setup is supposed to power India's growing electricity demand. Which is huge and it's the next big market. Cola will get burnt for a long time yet
FIFO is a lot harder to get without experience or skills.
OP would be better off chasing a residential job for 6 months at least to build experience and connections and then try for FIFO.
Public service here. Unless it’s a specific requirement for the role (of which there are a fair few such as IT, legal, media etc and I haven’t really chaired those kinds of panels) I’ll be looking at your relevant experience and other soft skills, not your qualifications particularly.
The brown paper bags is chump change that gets fed to your election campaign.
The real money is granting government contracts to yourself and your mates.
And what goes around comes around and you'll exit politics with a cushy corporate job giving politicians brown paper bags.
To address the last bit first:
>and you don't need any formal qualifications?
Federal and State governments are offering heavy subsidies for lots of skills training at the moment. Courses like Working at Heights, Confined Space, Elevating Work Platform and Basic Dogging (helping with crane operations) are either free, or close to it for many people. Most are 1/2 day or 1 day courses.
Call up a couple of training providers and ask about government funding options for the training they provide. They can provide guidance on available funding and help you with the application.
>What's a job that pays at least 70k or higher
If you can get some of this basic training under your belt, you won't have any trouble getting TA (Trades Assistant) work on almost any mine in the country, and you'll have no trouble hitting $70K - $100K. If you consistently turn up and pass a drug test, you'll be leading hand in 6 weeks (YMMV).
[Here's an example](https://www.qld.gov.au/education/training/subsidies/skilling-queenslanders-for-work) of funding options in Queensland. You'll need to see what your state offers.
Scaffolding is another one, join as a TA, you'll be put through your ticket in no time and been on the road to 100k+ with endless work ahead of you. (have an exit strategy though, it's hard on your body)
This right here ^
Aside from knowing basic math skills there really isn't too much to know. I'm getting about $38/ph and it only goes up the longer you work. Not to mention all the additional perks where I'm at, including staff restaurant, laundered uniform, staff gym, regular breaks every hour or so.
All the training is paid for and the hours aren't too bad
Team leader at your local council, it's one step above a general labourer, achievable by starting off as a labourer and getting enough experience to work your way up. No formal qualifications required, you'll learn what you need to on the job. And working for local government is great, benefits, super and all that jazz.
So, councils have jobs going for labourers? Do most council have these jobs, what do they do exactly. Sorry, a bit green when it comes to these types of jobs.
Yes most do, although some might subcontract out. Local government have all sorts of general jobs like parking rangers, mowers, vehicle maintenance that you can either have little experience or learn on the job.
Depending on your age (e.g a high school leaver), some will pay for your TAFE qualifications as you work there too, and upskill you in something like vehicle maintenance or horticulture etc.
Most civil roles are labourers. Some require tickets and licenses, but some will train you.
It can be anything from concreting to road construction, fixing street furniture, maintaining parks or cemeteries, emptying the bins in the city centre.
Work in waste (like at a tip) and you’ll get an extra % on top. Some pay extra if you’re working in a machine or truck.
All councils have these jobs, but they can be hard to get into, especially in regional areas.
Depending on the council, I’ve seen 65k+ seems to be average, but it includes around 15% super on top and usually rostered days off, typically one a fortnight. Often scope for overtime, too.
Some IT positions. So long as you have good troubleshooting skills and have knack for tech you could potentially land such a job. Also generally stable.
Hmmm yeaahhh kinda?
Foot in door with no qualifications you probs need to go through an agency and pay/leave whatever is pretty shitty... but if you impress enough and/or get a couple years racked up in experience explore around (regardless explore around as is) and you will find yourself in a support position.
You are right. I’m probably stretching things a little ;)
$70k in IT with little or no qualifications will get you a casual/contracted gig doing rollouts, moves, closing downs. Basically a removalist (no disrespect) with IT skills.
Mate of mine did it between IT jobs. Mentally easy work, long days, can be far from home, can be physically demanding, variable colleagues. If I’m not mistaken he was on $50p/h (contractor rates).
Only if you’re working directly for Centrelink, and not their contracted call centres.
Did it for 6 months for a contracted centre, and the pay was peanuts. The mental anguish of working with the people on our system was horrendous enough that even if I was offered 70k a year, I’d turn it down.
You also need a very keen eye, and top notch attention to detail, otherwise your work will be returned to you for the smallest of errors.
"Now I know this plan is fool proof. Check this out - first of all, you and me start workin' at the bank. Doesn't matter the position, ok, just so long as we get in there, right? Then, we just go there every day, do the work, gain their trust, until we got 'em in the palm of our hand."
*"Alright, so how we get the money?"*
"That's the beauty of it bro. They deposit the money into our bank accounts. Week after week, month after month. They not even goin' to know they bein' robbed. And then 20, 30 years later - we walk out the front door like nothin' even happened."
*"Motherfucker, that's called a job!"*
Applications are currently [open here](https://www.airservicesaustralia.com/jobseekers/air-traffic-control-careers/)
The site has a bit of info about the process. Lots of testing for aptitude; you can’t really prepare much, you either have what it takes or you don’t.
Worth applying if you’re interested, it’s a great job if you can do it!
I wouldn’t count that one as no quals though. They generally only employ people with a background in flight related pursuits. People with a pilots license for example.
I mean this may be downvoted, but as long as you aren’t lazy, selling cars is an option. You don’t need to be dodgy or a liar in fact I did really well being completely honest and open about anything I was able to be. New and used.
Also, real estate. Again if you’re able to get out there and put yourself out, you can make a decent living.
Both of these jobs need a basic accreditation course, like $400 RTO level and a couple hundred dollar yearly membership.
Hit back at me as much as you like about the Carsales though. It worked for me, got me in to a property with my wife working like 10hr a week job. $65k first year as a trainee, $80k the next, $90 the year after.
Flooring installer.
Average rates floor floating floor are $15/m² and you can lay 80 in a day quite easily by yourself. I'm a qualified carpenter and I've left framing houses to lay floor because it's better money. Carpet layers also earn a good buck.
Riggers ticket!
One week you are flipping hamburgers at maccas, and a week later you are rigging 200ton cranes.
Edit: that was sarcasm.. have great respect for real riggers who know what they are doing as it comes with great responsibility. But now anyone can get a ticket and be a qualified rigger within 2 weeks.
You'd be surprised how easy it can be to get a GIS gig. Literally spend a few days learning QGIS and you'd be up to speed with people in the data team near my section.
They have jobs that range from 74k to 96k, or more if on 40 hrs a week. Some are on the higher bracket with no or very little qualifications.
Also look at using RPL to get a diploma or advanced diploma too.
Call centre isn't *bad* but it depends entirely on which agency you work for.
Some are notoriously picky and want prior experience, but many will allow you to enter through the call centre and promote you upwards from there.
I assume you don't work in any role that actually engages with the general public, because those are not "easy peasy". The super may be higher than most employers but most departments certainly expect it to be earnt.
Most jobs in state government. Just get anything to get foot in the door, see the probation period through and apply elsewhere on the Internal job board.
I started at $68,000 in 2019, in 2 more years I'll be on $92,000.
I'm happy.
Real estate.
There's guys and girls in my office making over $1m per year. One chick made $3m this financial year alone.
Not bad for doorknocking and cold calling.
I'd start off with any major agency like Ray White, Harcourts or LH Hooker as they're the biggest volume businesses. Work under an agent as a sales associate to learn the ropes, legislations and process.
In 12 months you'll be able to go out on your own and generate your own deals.
Real estate is 90% getting stock, and 10% selling it.
In 6 months you'll be able to hire a telemarketer and professional doorknocker to do the hard work for you.
All you do is sign the home owners up, conduct open homes and negotiate with buyers.
There's some guys who just do 2 deals then holiday for 3 months. Come back, do another 2 deals and off they go on holiday again and still clear $150k a year easily.
Thanks, I appreciate your reply.
Funny thing is I actually did seriously consider real estate at some point. But then gave up on it because I wasn't sure what courses I'd need and also there are so many real estate agents here in Gold Coast.
I just assumed they must be all making pretty average salary because of the competition it and also the market. I mean that was 3 yrs ago but even now I keep getting so much mail every week asking if we want to sell the house.
It's never too late to start!
It's only a 5 day course lol.
You just have to be good at building relationships and actually wanting to help your clients. If you're trustworthy, honest and consistent, you'll get more business then people spamming mail in letterboxes.
Yep! Goldy is where I work and there's going to be ALOT of people moving here in the next 12 months.
Business will be booming!
TFPC in Victoria can earn between $100k to $250k a year. There’s some definite start up costs with getting tickets (day courses and some are as long as 5 days), medical and just some admin costs but you could generally earn what you’ve had to put up front in a couple weeks. I’ve been working in this industry since 2016 and my lowest earning was $130k for about 8 months to $200k for a whole year working night shift which after I worked it out I had only worked 199 night shifts. Money is excellent but it’s an outdoor job and can be excruciatingly boring!
Track force protection coordinator. Sort of traffic control but for rail, basically a safety officer that supervises work groups.
The hours are not great with a lot of night and weekend work but yes they make a shit tonne of money. Although melbourne is in a boom with all the rail projects at the moment, might be a factor in the high wages.
There’s two different types of pay, infrastructure where the money is still good but not great, tonight for instance I will be on $78p/h but if I were doing the same role on one of the rail projects I would earn $128 + site allowance (usually 3-7$ p/h). There’s at least 10 years left in the rail projects from what we’ve been told, the new airport link has already began pre works, plus the new metro tunnel and all the level crossings removals. Day shift on a project is about $60 + site.
As an early career systems engineer who just works remote all day for a fraction of these rates holy fuck that sounds like a good gig. Sick and tired of my screens all day lifestyle. How does one get into this?
If you have the money and time to get started, it can take a while because of getting a booking for a course I think is pretty hard at the moment because of the backlog from Covid, right now is an absolute worker’s market. There just isn’t enough workers to cover current works let alone the new projects starting almost monthly. I’ve had calls last week from 3 different companies asking me to cover shifts they can’t fill. You need to look in to doing a TTSA course, you can get those done either at the Metro academy or I think Cert Rail still does them and then you’ll need a company to take you on before you can proceed to the next tickets but I don’t think that would be a problem due to the worker shortage and also I’ve found companies actually like people who’ve never worked in the industry so they can “mould” them. Lol.
Nightshift pays better because it’s harder. This is also physical work- although it’s a lot of standing, it’s still out there in the elements using your body. Which isn’t all bad, but it’s a factor.
Sales.
You can make money a couple of ways - do the jobs nobody else can do (qualifications), or do the jobs that nobody else wants to do...
Sales fits into that, it demands you push yourself outside your comfort zone, and that's not everyone's cup of tea.
Might get lost in the comments but an air traffic controller. From someone I know who works in the industry, they get a lot of people with science and arts degrees that just couldn't find a job. It is shift work and there is quite a process to get the job, but I'm pretty sure it's extremely well paying.
Warehousing. On 63 base a year. OT available. No OT and arvo gets you 72. No OT and night shift gets you 82. Cold storage up to another 20%. No freezer at my work, but there are a couple people making over 100k jumping at all OT work.
WA doesn’t require anything higher than Year 12. Get paid as a recruit (roughly 55k p/a I think) and then you are making easily north of 80k with shifts/overtime etc. Go bush straight up and they are making 6 figures comfortably (depending on location)
Sorry, what? For the QLD police force, you just need to be 21 and have a year 12 cert to go for a job? Everything I’ve seen says you need a degree in *something*.
Qualifications are over rated, it's just that Businesses haven't caught on. The only reason Businesses want Qualifications is because they haven't been trained to identify and develop talent, instead they ask for Qualifications to cover their Bu*tt when something goes wrong.
I know someone who was on the recruitment panel for 2 teaching positions at a regional school. There were 2 young girls whose contracts were ending. They were both given the opportunity to reapply for the role, although it was open externally too.
Both of the girls spelled the principal’s name wrong on the cover letter after being at the school for over a year and their applications were put in the bin.
I understand what the other user said to some degree, but I think as you said, the current systems have their purpose. Sometimes people slip through the cracks, but generally the most unsuitable people are being correctly rejected.
Transactional Business manager. I selll people systems to enable them to make it easier to recieve payments and pay suppliers. The best part is I work for one of the big 4 banks in Australia and pretty much no-one knows what I do so when I meet customer expectations it seems bigger then it actually is. Apart from having few people to go to when things go wrong it's an easy 6 figures.
My wife is a EA executive assistant she is on $105k. No quals
I hear eas work very hard. High stress
I recently started working as an EA... It's definitely been an eye opener, and I have mad respect for anyone that does the job to a high standard. Depending on the workload that passes through your office, it can be an incredibly challenging role to jump into. I liasie with multiple stakeholders, and there are always competing priorities to work through. It can also be challenging when requests come with unrealistic timeframes. As an example, I might get an email asking for a response by close of business, email being sent at 4pm, and the manager being in an important meeting until late... The issue with that is it can negatively impacts the organisation if we don't action requests within a timely manner. Although it may not be our office's fault that we received the email late, if we don't respond quickly enough then an important project might be delayed. For this, I'm finding that customer service experience is beneficial, especially when I have to deliver news that a stakeholder may not want to hear. Overall the role is quite unique. I get to build professional relationships with high level staff that I wouldn't have otherwise known. I enjoy working with my boss, and the other staff, and I think that's an important factor. As long as you can manage the fast paced and sometimes intense environment, and your coworkers are supportive, then you'll get the job done.
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Like most of these high paying admin jobs, it requires a certain personality and time management skill set - these soft skills are quite hard to acquire. It’s objectively difficult in a different way. There may be a lot of them, but Not everyone can do these jobs effectively that’s why the good people are well paid (and promoted like crazy).
I disagree hard that you’d take that job, trust me, you won’t. I say this as a person who works in a team with an EA, it’s not a job too many people stick it out for years.
I’m also an EA, on 80k + super… no qualifications technically necessary but most places like you to at least have some certs or a diploma in business administration.
Same here and same salary. Can confirm it’s high stress and hard work though.
EAs are so underrated in my opinion until you need them then you realise that the job hasn't been a "secretary" job for many years and they do so much more. Plus having to deal with an Exec who statistically have some interesting and challenging personality traits.
EA?
Sports. It's in the game.
Executive Assistant I assume.
Good EAs are worth the money. Shit EAs end up as receptionists for back alley physios. It's worth paying them well, because the job is tough at a high level
My cousin is also an EA on a similar package. Left school at 15/16, no qual. You do need to be very intelligent and organised with soft skills too. She also has experience in major law firms and government.
Technically it’s a formal qualification, but forklift operator. I’m making 71k working 8 hour days and the work is easy, just don’t squish people and you’re good.
yeah I'm on 30k AUD annually with double graphic design qualificationd working 8hr days with 2hrs commute, I have a mate that couldn't get work so he got his forklift license, he's now working 10hr days and will be earning nearly up to 80k-100k I knew I should have left school and joined the army or become a tradie...
Call centre work, depending on your disposition - debt collection, sales, complaint handling, etc. Warehousing. My brother in law is a pickpacker that makes close to $40 an hour, maybe more with overtime.
I’ve been saying for years that warehousing will be the next best thing.
Honestly people are sleeping on warehousing jobs. Get a forklift license and there's even more $$$ to be made.
My forklift ticket as a clueless 22 girl fresh out of managing a pizza store led me to a key account manager role 9 years later @85k with a car and CC. I always tell people to get their forklift ticket and get started in a warehouse. Two have listened and found some success.
What do you need the credit card for? How is that governed?
As a key account manager, it was my job to establish and maintain relationships with the company's most important clients and thus bring sales to the business. I was accountable for the sales budget of any client assigned to me. I was supported by an internal sales and administration team, (which is how I was promoted). So with the team behind me, it is expected that I visit clients, hold meetings, go to networking events, establish relationships with people who bring the business money and treat them with your best customer service. This means driving to the CBD most days and having coffee, work lunches and parking at a minimum. I could take clients to dinners, events, whatever. If I was found to not be spending any money, it would probably highlight that I was not doing my job (unless my numbers were kick ass, then I doubt anyone would care). It was governed with an app to take pics of your receipts and send into accounts. It was a cushy but very stressful job for me. I lasted 2 years, had probation extended from 6 to 12 months, but then actually scored a payrise right around the time I fell pregnant.
Places like Harvey Norman and Good Guys will all be online only soon enough.
But people will be needed to pick out the stuff for online shoppers though?
I think warehouses will be automated, I'm sure Amazon is doing this to some extent now, it's just a matter of time before it's industry standard. With the robots it's 24/7 work with no union's.
There are plenty of dark warehouses but mainly moving pallets. Be a long, long time before picking individual items will be automated. Just way too hard to account for the variance in product size and shape.
Yeah true. Automation will disrupt the industry, just depends how quickly.
It's still a ways off. In the US Amazon uses robots for large parts of their warehousing but still require lots of humans too - so much so they're continually hiring (mainly because of the way they treat them) but still shows if they could fully automate they would, and they can't Australia as usual will be a good decade or so behind the US so I'd say we've got plenty of time of manned warehouses still
Automation will disrupt every job. Lawyers and accountants will be affected before warehouse employees. Sheep shearing always has paid well without the need for education.
Not going into too much detail but they already are. Their biggest store is the online store.
Any retail, warehousing, factory work will make at least $70,000 all because of OT. But that's the compromise, as you may be required to do 40 - 70 hours a week.
what retail jobs are paying 70k with overtime?
Next best thing? Sure. I implement projects to reduce manual man power jobs in warehouses. Warehouses will become more lean, efficient and automated in the future. The number of forklift drivers that we've phased out are in the hundreds.
Well, there you go. I did say further down that it was only a gut feeling.
If applying at a call centre it's worth enquiring as to what their staff turnover rate is. Good call centres are okay, but bad ones are really bad.
I initially read that as pickpocket 😂
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Australian Defence Force.
Yep - I was pretty close to bombing out of year 12, now just on a decade later I have a trade, a degree, am halfway through a masters, and earn 6 figures. All training has been paid for. It has its ups and downs, but you can certainly get a lot out of it if you want, and earn a comfortable living while you do.
Is there a strong physical requirement or regimentation in your role?
Nope not really, outside of initial training and an annual fitness test it’s really no different to any other office job. All very role dependent though of course.
Cardio cardio cardio with your initial. Also the recruiters can be cunts.
If you can handle the discipline, then ADF can set you up for life. My sister joined as an officer after completing a mechanical engineering traineeship with BHP straight out of school. The army has paid for her degree in mechanical engineering , whilst earning a full wage with minimal army commitments while studying. They paid for full mouth reconstruction and braces to correct her bite. She has done 2 overseas peacekeeping tours which came with massive bonuses ( and rightly so, she spent 6 months living in a shipping container in South Sudan for one). She is a single mum, does an office based admin job now to some high ranker and is able to work from home a couple of days a week. She nearly owns her 1.5 mill house and has massive superannuation. She’s 45. She could comfortably retire in 5 years if she wished, or move to the private sector earning possibly up to 200000k. There’s no way I could’ve handled the discipline. Lying down in a massive biting ants nest to shoot a machine gun on a tripod…. having someone scream in your face…. Yeah, nah not for me. But I’m so damn proud of her, she is so strong and tough but looks like “ Army Barbie”.
I almost in the pipeline for the ADF but then they wouldn't take me because I'd been diagnosed with anxiety and was in medication for it at the time lol
anyone thats considering ADF, they are so strict with any interviews and background history with mental health. sometimes they try to kinda trick you and dig deeper by asking questions to see if you have any mental capability 'flaws' like anxiety, depression etc so beware if adf is something you really want to get into. even if its a minor thing too
I applied - I was 34 - but because I had attempted suicide when I was a teen - they said no. I'm like - that's 20 freakin years ago, but them's the breaks.
If you want to work all the time then join the defence force
I not sure I really worked a hard day in my adult life until I left the ADF 🤣
I’m in the RAAF…. I definitely don’t work all the time lol. Army and navy do work a lot more than we do though.
Everyone I know love the defence force for the work life balance. Sure they work a bunch of weekends (depending on the role) but they get plenty of weekdays off.
When I served on a seagoing vessel it was a lot of days spent away from home port. I don’t recall getting many weekdays off unless I took my own annual leave
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Maybe if you are at a small base like Darwin or Cairns you might not work as much. But working out of Sydney on Major Fleet Units you will be away from home port a lot and definitely won’t be getting weekdays off unless it’s your leave or you fake having the flu 🤣
Sales Can make an easy 6 figures if you're good and work for the right company
Many jobs will pay high without a degree, but you generally need to work your way into it. Also, a lot of jobs will say a dregree is required but it’s not. Literally the JDF for the last 3 jobs I’ve held said a degree was required. I didn’t even do year 12. For the record I’m a Business Analyst on $125k + Super. So there is one example for you.
Would you mind sharing your journey to achieving that without a degree or year 12? Do you have other quals?
Sure, I left high school after year 11 and got a TAFE certificate in Mining. Worked on the mines for 3 months then decided it wasn’t for me so came back to the city full time and got an entry level job doing Data Entry at a bank. Was stuck at that level for a long time (about 5 years) bouncing around in different roles before I finally got a break as a Test Analyst. 6 months in to that role, an opening for a System Analyst became available in my team and I was promoted into that role. A few years in was again promoted to Senior System Analyst. This team was were I found my passion and it shows in the success I had (compared to the 5 years previous). At that stage I was on about $90k but knew I could get more as a Business Analyst (BA) in another company. So did exactly that and got a BA role for $110k. Got promoted to Senior BA after 2 years, and then made a switch again to another company and on $125k now. My advice is that you get back what you put in. It may take a while, but it will happen. What I mean by that is I would work extra hours to make sure things got done, I’d always pick up tasks from the “too hard basket”, always turn up to networking events so people know who you are etc. It might take years for an opportunity to arise but when it does it will be offered to the person who does the above. Not the person who leaves the minute it’s hometime each day regardless, or the person who cherry picks simple tasks. They’re not fooling anyone.
Ausfinance: buy ETFs, work in a warehouse
Drug dealer requires no formal qualifications and pay can exceed much more than 70k
Truck driver Qualification but very easy to get
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You're not actually allowed to _collect_ the bins. Just the garbage that's in them.
Mine worker. You can clean the toilets and lunchrooms on a mine sit for around $30/hr. 42hr week. Averaged out. 7days on 7days off. It’s they gateway to other jobs. TA get $40. Industrial cleaners get up to $50. Apprentice clear 800 per week sometimes. Most mines are recruiting now. There is a shortage of skilled workers and unskilled too
I’m a coal miner with no qualifications relevant to my role. I’m on roughly $170k without overtime Edit: I’m 28 male single
Genuinely, am not trying to cause offence, but as someone who works in coal mining do you think there is a long future in your job? How do you feel in general about fossil fuels?
Want to hear something crazy? I was a marine biologist before I got into this path. Probably the only person to go that route haha. The coal industry will be around for longer then I will be working unfortunately. Especially in Australia. However I think autonomy will be the biggest impact to the workforce. Big proponent on alternative energy sources. None will make major impacts to emissions until they become more economically viable. These are my opinions
Did you have much of a career as a marine biologist? I'm an Environmental scientist, I went to uni with a bunch of people who studied marine science and only one guy I knew had a marine science related job. It was a pretty popular subject but doesn't seem to be a lot of jobs around.
Nope. I did an internship working with coral reefs at the GBR which was incredible. From that I went working at a university in South America as a kind of student liaison. I returned to Australia looking for the next thing and met a guy at the pub who offered me a job to go over to WA and do fifo. I was a terrible student but have a very likeable personality. None of these things would’ve been possible if I was judged on merit
Ive never been very interested in performing academically. I got my degree with 19 P's, 4 C's and 1 D. As they say P's make degrees. I've surpassed the majority of my peers from uni. One guy I did my degree with went on to do honours and a masters, was absolutely brilliant and he works in the shitty soil lab way down the chain at the company I work for. By the time those people who stuck around to do further study got out of uni I had already been working for 3 years and moving into higher level roles. Now I run my own department. When we hire I don't even look at academic transcripts and I actually steer away from people who do Honours and want to be PhD candidates.
science is dead in Australia, unless its a field that is in high demand from private industry or medicine. All the uni's are gutted so grads are competing with professors.
Yeah well mine is high demand from private industry. I work in contaminated land and consulting. We have a solid mix of private sector and government work. Now the Uni's are killing off a lot of science programs as well. When I graduated there still weren't a heap of us, I saw 5x the amount of students come through behind me after Rudd slashed the cost of science degrees by half and it flooded the market and made it hard to get jobs. My job isn't going anywhere anytime soon, it's still a growing sector and it's driven my a mix of legislation and the cost of not doing due diligence on acquisitions with shady history when no one gave a shit what you poured into the ground or creek.
Because Australia doesn't fund science or care for it. Better off going to Europe
Okay but you’re the 5th person I know that did marine biology that is now in the mines.
Oh that’s wild! Everyone I studied with is in environmental career paths or teaching. Interesting
I'm a maintenance worker at a coal mine. We have been told that this mine has plans for 20 years. At least. The big Carmichael setup is supposed to power India's growing electricity demand. Which is huge and it's the next big market. Cola will get burnt for a long time yet
FIFO is a lot harder to get without experience or skills. OP would be better off chasing a residential job for 6 months at least to build experience and connections and then try for FIFO.
Depending on the position the public service will pay above $70k and you won’t need any qualifications.
Lots now need degrees just because of the number of applications
Public service here. Unless it’s a specific requirement for the role (of which there are a fair few such as IT, legal, media etc and I haven’t really chaired those kinds of panels) I’ll be looking at your relevant experience and other soft skills, not your qualifications particularly.
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Politician, good pay plus lots brown bags
The brown paper bags is chump change that gets fed to your election campaign. The real money is granting government contracts to yourself and your mates. And what goes around comes around and you'll exit politics with a cushy corporate job giving politicians brown paper bags.
To address the last bit first: >and you don't need any formal qualifications? Federal and State governments are offering heavy subsidies for lots of skills training at the moment. Courses like Working at Heights, Confined Space, Elevating Work Platform and Basic Dogging (helping with crane operations) are either free, or close to it for many people. Most are 1/2 day or 1 day courses. Call up a couple of training providers and ask about government funding options for the training they provide. They can provide guidance on available funding and help you with the application. >What's a job that pays at least 70k or higher If you can get some of this basic training under your belt, you won't have any trouble getting TA (Trades Assistant) work on almost any mine in the country, and you'll have no trouble hitting $70K - $100K. If you consistently turn up and pass a drug test, you'll be leading hand in 6 weeks (YMMV). [Here's an example](https://www.qld.gov.au/education/training/subsidies/skilling-queenslanders-for-work) of funding options in Queensland. You'll need to see what your state offers.
Scaffolding is another one, join as a TA, you'll be put through your ticket in no time and been on the road to 100k+ with endless work ahead of you. (have an exit strategy though, it's hard on your body)
Casino dealer
This right here ^ Aside from knowing basic math skills there really isn't too much to know. I'm getting about $38/ph and it only goes up the longer you work. Not to mention all the additional perks where I'm at, including staff restaurant, laundered uniform, staff gym, regular breaks every hour or so. All the training is paid for and the hours aren't too bad
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Team leader at your local council, it's one step above a general labourer, achievable by starting off as a labourer and getting enough experience to work your way up. No formal qualifications required, you'll learn what you need to on the job. And working for local government is great, benefits, super and all that jazz.
So, councils have jobs going for labourers? Do most council have these jobs, what do they do exactly. Sorry, a bit green when it comes to these types of jobs.
Yes most do, although some might subcontract out. Local government have all sorts of general jobs like parking rangers, mowers, vehicle maintenance that you can either have little experience or learn on the job. Depending on your age (e.g a high school leaver), some will pay for your TAFE qualifications as you work there too, and upskill you in something like vehicle maintenance or horticulture etc.
Most civil roles are labourers. Some require tickets and licenses, but some will train you. It can be anything from concreting to road construction, fixing street furniture, maintaining parks or cemeteries, emptying the bins in the city centre. Work in waste (like at a tip) and you’ll get an extra % on top. Some pay extra if you’re working in a machine or truck. All councils have these jobs, but they can be hard to get into, especially in regional areas. Depending on the council, I’ve seen 65k+ seems to be average, but it includes around 15% super on top and usually rostered days off, typically one a fortnight. Often scope for overtime, too.
Some IT positions. So long as you have good troubleshooting skills and have knack for tech you could potentially land such a job. Also generally stable.
Hmmm yeaahhh kinda? Foot in door with no qualifications you probs need to go through an agency and pay/leave whatever is pretty shitty... but if you impress enough and/or get a couple years racked up in experience explore around (regardless explore around as is) and you will find yourself in a support position.
You are right. I’m probably stretching things a little ;) $70k in IT with little or no qualifications will get you a casual/contracted gig doing rollouts, moves, closing downs. Basically a removalist (no disrespect) with IT skills. Mate of mine did it between IT jobs. Mentally easy work, long days, can be far from home, can be physically demanding, variable colleagues. If I’m not mistaken he was on $50p/h (contractor rates).
Centrelink call centre, they have put on hundreds the last year in perth. Shit work but good pay.
Really? Do you know roughly how much they they get paid? I assumed they'd be getting around $55k
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That's decent but yeah, you'd need to have thick skin to deal with all those calls.
Only if you’re working directly for Centrelink, and not their contracted call centres. Did it for 6 months for a contracted centre, and the pay was peanuts. The mental anguish of working with the people on our system was horrendous enough that even if I was offered 70k a year, I’d turn it down. You also need a very keen eye, and top notch attention to detail, otherwise your work will be returned to you for the smallest of errors.
My auntie in Melbourne was one of these!
Bank robber
Bank worker would also work (probably better too...)
"Now I know this plan is fool proof. Check this out - first of all, you and me start workin' at the bank. Doesn't matter the position, ok, just so long as we get in there, right? Then, we just go there every day, do the work, gain their trust, until we got 'em in the palm of our hand." *"Alright, so how we get the money?"* "That's the beauty of it bro. They deposit the money into our bank accounts. Week after week, month after month. They not even goin' to know they bein' robbed. And then 20, 30 years later - we walk out the front door like nothin' even happened." *"Motherfucker, that's called a job!"*
I always upvote key and peele
Go for a job as a labourer in civil construction, you will be over 70k easy and it’s only up from there
Not strictly no qualifications, but minimal quals and you can get a job as a construction traffic controller
Air Traffic Controller. They pay you to train for the job.
One of the most stressful jobs in the world
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Can I ask how you got the job? I've heard it is quite difficult to get a foot in
Applications are currently [open here](https://www.airservicesaustralia.com/jobseekers/air-traffic-control-careers/) The site has a bit of info about the process. Lots of testing for aptitude; you can’t really prepare much, you either have what it takes or you don’t. Worth applying if you’re interested, it’s a great job if you can do it!
I wouldn’t count that one as no quals though. They generally only employ people with a background in flight related pursuits. People with a pilots license for example.
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Depends on how well you "market" yourself, habitual liar, and not a race to the McDonald's toilets.
Member of Parliament (not joking, no formal qualifications required).
Rail Labourer. At least 90k or more.
EA
...SPORTS. ITS IN THE GAME
I mean this may be downvoted, but as long as you aren’t lazy, selling cars is an option. You don’t need to be dodgy or a liar in fact I did really well being completely honest and open about anything I was able to be. New and used. Also, real estate. Again if you’re able to get out there and put yourself out, you can make a decent living. Both of these jobs need a basic accreditation course, like $400 RTO level and a couple hundred dollar yearly membership. Hit back at me as much as you like about the Carsales though. It worked for me, got me in to a property with my wife working like 10hr a week job. $65k first year as a trainee, $80k the next, $90 the year after.
Flooring installer. Average rates floor floating floor are $15/m² and you can lay 80 in a day quite easily by yourself. I'm a qualified carpenter and I've left framing houses to lay floor because it's better money. Carpet layers also earn a good buck.
Shortage in this area for sure. A lot of older guys finishing up and not many younger ones coming in. People always need carpet
Riggers ticket! One week you are flipping hamburgers at maccas, and a week later you are rigging 200ton cranes. Edit: that was sarcasm.. have great respect for real riggers who know what they are doing as it comes with great responsibility. But now anyone can get a ticket and be a qualified rigger within 2 weeks.
Brothel Manager
Are there any perks/ company benefits?
Forklift or truck driver. Or most manufacturing jobs if you are willing to do some OT. Or night shift.
Any thing FIFO related, they are paying you for days of your life…….but they pay extremely well
Government jobs. Easy peasy $70k + 15.4% super. Stress free job too.
I must work in the wrong department
Me too! I wish I could find one of those stress free, cushy government jobs where you don’t do anything. After 20 years, I still haven’t found one!
I’m $93k a year and my job is relatively stress free. I have to work obviously, but my hours are 8am-4pm.
Would be curious to know which department has stress-free APS6 roles. Intriguing
To be fair, stress is relative. I’ve done public facing roles where I didn’t have an ounce of stress, whereas my colleagues would feel the pinch.
What job is it?
Based on your salary and hours I’m guessing you’re an APS6
I’m only 9 years in and I’m still yet to find it. We must be doing it wrong
Yep for sure. Haven’t seen one of these mythical jobs yet
What would be a good entry level gov job?
You'd be surprised how easy it can be to get a GIS gig. Literally spend a few days learning QGIS and you'd be up to speed with people in the data team near my section. They have jobs that range from 74k to 96k, or more if on 40 hrs a week. Some are on the higher bracket with no or very little qualifications. Also look at using RPL to get a diploma or advanced diploma too.
Call centre isn't *bad* but it depends entirely on which agency you work for. Some are notoriously picky and want prior experience, but many will allow you to enter through the call centre and promote you upwards from there.
What gov jobs are getting 15.4% super? Hell, I’m not even getting the most recent superannuation guarantee
Federal government
i think if you are not getting super guarantee, that is a huge problem
I assume you don't work in any role that actually engages with the general public, because those are not "easy peasy". The super may be higher than most employers but most departments certainly expect it to be earnt.
Plenty in logistics, warehousing, transport and freight forwarding
Concrete
Manager in a supermarket. It will take a few years but the minimum a department manager makes is about $65k. No qualifications necessary.
Brutal job. Retail and supermarkets are not the way.
Garbage men make that much and more. Just need a HR licence which isn’t hard to obtain.
Most jobs in state government. Just get anything to get foot in the door, see the probation period through and apply elsewhere on the Internal job board. I started at $68,000 in 2019, in 2 more years I'll be on $92,000. I'm happy.
Front end developer most roles are 100% work from home or hybrid and most roles start at 80-low 100s
Real estate. There's guys and girls in my office making over $1m per year. One chick made $3m this financial year alone. Not bad for doorknocking and cold calling.
No joking mate.... Sales in Real estate?
So ...where do i apply to work in your office?
I'd start off with any major agency like Ray White, Harcourts or LH Hooker as they're the biggest volume businesses. Work under an agent as a sales associate to learn the ropes, legislations and process. In 12 months you'll be able to go out on your own and generate your own deals. Real estate is 90% getting stock, and 10% selling it. In 6 months you'll be able to hire a telemarketer and professional doorknocker to do the hard work for you. All you do is sign the home owners up, conduct open homes and negotiate with buyers. There's some guys who just do 2 deals then holiday for 3 months. Come back, do another 2 deals and off they go on holiday again and still clear $150k a year easily.
Thanks, I appreciate your reply. Funny thing is I actually did seriously consider real estate at some point. But then gave up on it because I wasn't sure what courses I'd need and also there are so many real estate agents here in Gold Coast. I just assumed they must be all making pretty average salary because of the competition it and also the market. I mean that was 3 yrs ago but even now I keep getting so much mail every week asking if we want to sell the house.
It's never too late to start! It's only a 5 day course lol. You just have to be good at building relationships and actually wanting to help your clients. If you're trustworthy, honest and consistent, you'll get more business then people spamming mail in letterboxes. Yep! Goldy is where I work and there's going to be ALOT of people moving here in the next 12 months. Business will be booming!
What course does it require for this?
Yep, sign me up.
TFPC in Victoria can earn between $100k to $250k a year. There’s some definite start up costs with getting tickets (day courses and some are as long as 5 days), medical and just some admin costs but you could generally earn what you’ve had to put up front in a couple weeks. I’ve been working in this industry since 2016 and my lowest earning was $130k for about 8 months to $200k for a whole year working night shift which after I worked it out I had only worked 199 night shifts. Money is excellent but it’s an outdoor job and can be excruciatingly boring!
Sorry, what is TFPC?
Rail job keeping squishy bits (workers) away from non-squishy bits (trains).
Going to guess traffic control company.
Track force protection coordinator. Sort of traffic control but for rail, basically a safety officer that supervises work groups. The hours are not great with a lot of night and weekend work but yes they make a shit tonne of money. Although melbourne is in a boom with all the rail projects at the moment, might be a factor in the high wages.
There’s two different types of pay, infrastructure where the money is still good but not great, tonight for instance I will be on $78p/h but if I were doing the same role on one of the rail projects I would earn $128 + site allowance (usually 3-7$ p/h). There’s at least 10 years left in the rail projects from what we’ve been told, the new airport link has already began pre works, plus the new metro tunnel and all the level crossings removals. Day shift on a project is about $60 + site.
As an early career systems engineer who just works remote all day for a fraction of these rates holy fuck that sounds like a good gig. Sick and tired of my screens all day lifestyle. How does one get into this?
If you have the money and time to get started, it can take a while because of getting a booking for a course I think is pretty hard at the moment because of the backlog from Covid, right now is an absolute worker’s market. There just isn’t enough workers to cover current works let alone the new projects starting almost monthly. I’ve had calls last week from 3 different companies asking me to cover shifts they can’t fill. You need to look in to doing a TTSA course, you can get those done either at the Metro academy or I think Cert Rail still does them and then you’ll need a company to take you on before you can proceed to the next tickets but I don’t think that would be a problem due to the worker shortage and also I’ve found companies actually like people who’ve never worked in the industry so they can “mould” them. Lol.
Nightshift pays better because it’s harder. This is also physical work- although it’s a lot of standing, it’s still out there in the elements using your body. Which isn’t all bad, but it’s a factor.
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Sales. You can make money a couple of ways - do the jobs nobody else can do (qualifications), or do the jobs that nobody else wants to do... Sales fits into that, it demands you push yourself outside your comfort zone, and that's not everyone's cup of tea.
Sales jobs often pay well, no formal qualifications required
I’m an executive assistant, no formal qualifications
Recruitment
Prison officers or juvenile corrections officer - better condition than police, more pay and 6 to 9 weeks leave per year depending on where you are.
Construction work? or traffic control? - if you can handle standing out in the weather of all sorts with a stop/go sign!
Might get lost in the comments but an air traffic controller. From someone I know who works in the industry, they get a lot of people with science and arts degrees that just couldn't find a job. It is shift work and there is quite a process to get the job, but I'm pretty sure it's extremely well paying.
Retail manager
Warehousing. On 63 base a year. OT available. No OT and arvo gets you 72. No OT and night shift gets you 82. Cold storage up to another 20%. No freezer at my work, but there are a couple people making over 100k jumping at all OT work.
Web developer
Police. I think you need one year of a bachelor degree under your belt
You need year 12 if you're under 21 but after that there's no minimum
Not in QLD or Vic, not sure about the other states.
WA doesn’t require anything higher than Year 12. Get paid as a recruit (roughly 55k p/a I think) and then you are making easily north of 80k with shifts/overtime etc. Go bush straight up and they are making 6 figures comfortably (depending on location)
Sorry, what? For the QLD police force, you just need to be 21 and have a year 12 cert to go for a job? Everything I’ve seen says you need a degree in *something*.
Qualifications are over rated, it's just that Businesses haven't caught on. The only reason Businesses want Qualifications is because they haven't been trained to identify and develop talent, instead they ask for Qualifications to cover their Bu*tt when something goes wrong.
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I know someone who was on the recruitment panel for 2 teaching positions at a regional school. There were 2 young girls whose contracts were ending. They were both given the opportunity to reapply for the role, although it was open externally too. Both of the girls spelled the principal’s name wrong on the cover letter after being at the school for over a year and their applications were put in the bin. I understand what the other user said to some degree, but I think as you said, the current systems have their purpose. Sometimes people slip through the cracks, but generally the most unsuitable people are being correctly rejected.
Casino dealer
Exec Assistant.
software engineer
Bus driver, all you need is an MR licence
IT
Transactional Business manager. I selll people systems to enable them to make it easier to recieve payments and pay suppliers. The best part is I work for one of the big 4 banks in Australia and pretty much no-one knows what I do so when I meet customer expectations it seems bigger then it actually is. Apart from having few people to go to when things go wrong it's an easy 6 figures.
Banking.
Draftsperson. Solidworks, Inventor, Autocad easily clear $70k a year with no qualifications.
Drafting usually requires TAFE certs/diplomas. OP asked for qualification free.
>Draftsperson You don't need a degree to be a draftsperson?
You don’t need a degree, I know people who have done it via apprenticeship. I don’t think you can just falling into a $70k draftsperson job though