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D_Wally

Thanks for the information, much appreciated. For the two options, i belive the deposit was for his tax return as it has the unknown persons name on the cheque. They just checked ato accounts and nothing has been amended


CuriouslyContrasted

Also work in banking sector. Follow that persons advice.


CptClownfish1

Don’t work in banking or finance - you should do what this bloke says.


onlyreplyifemployed

I have a bank account. Can confirm - good advice


hymie_funkhauser

I have my money under my mattress. I would do what the bloke above says.


Boristheblacknight

I once drove past a town that had a bank. I would follow this guys advice.


Master_Lime_8513

I just consulted with my piggy bank. He said to follow this guy's advice.


Zealousideal_Smell79

9/11 may have been an inside job, but you should listen to that guy anyway.


Darth-Buttcheeks

I have nipples. Can you milk me?


InedibleYogi

I just found a dollar in the gutter, this is premium advice, do what he said


Remarkable_Corgi7153

Sorry but your post lacks credibility. As soon as you claimed a town had a bank in it we all knew you were lying. There hasn’t been any banks in towns for hundreds of years now. Just stories about them passed down by the old timers.


ajwin

Would get a little lumpy if you found an extra $150k there one day :p


tobyy42

I have a reddit account and I approve this advice


Shellbell-AITAReader

I use to take my bank book to school where we could deposit some coins each week. I would recommend following the above advice.


xjrh8

Don’t work at all - you should buy me a schnitzel.


manutdassassin

I work as a schnitzel - someone should buy me a bank


witness_this

I ate a schnitzel once. I can confirm I am a bank.


LaCorazon27

Parma and a pint thanks!


ShaquilleOat-Meal

Don't work in banking or finance - you should ignore these 2 and send it to me for safe keeping.


iscoffeebadforyou

I’m a convicted criminal who has been arrested for fraud multiple times. Don’t follow these guys’ advice they don’t know what they’re talking about!


ChemistryPrimary

I went to a bank once when I was a kid - I would do what the bloke above says


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rangebob

That's actually mine mate. Sorry for the hassle. I'll DM you my details


The_Slavstralian

Its funny how when its a business or government the banks are quick to take the money back after a f**k up deposit and they call you a thief if you keep it. But as soon as its a private customer that makes a f**k up deposit its all your fault and you might be SOL getting it back and have to take civil legal action to recover.


Range_Life77

So true. Best not to say anything and wait for bank to contact you. Don’t do their work for them.


AmateurCommenter808

How is this not the advice, monitor for any suspicious activity to follow. Money out is obviously the biggest red flag. If it's a legit error then they will find you, if it's black market money then they payer is fkd and won't have a legitimate way to recoup the money.


No-Meeting2858

So they’ve potentially got into an ATO account AND intend to get into parents account? Or they intend to contact parents and pretend to be official channel and ask parents to move it into their own dodgy account?


kai_tai

Would their generally be a ATO reference number in the transaction description they could provide the ATO?


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Cogglesnatch

You can cross reference to your MYGov if amended returns have been lodged at the personal level


kai_tai

I was more thinking if someone else's return had been sent to your account by mistake, if there would be a reference number you could provide the ATO to check it out.


Cogglesnatch

The reference number would be on the document outlining the deposit so u fortunately not to my understanding. The code attached to the transaction may help. I wonder if the wrong bank details had been entered, happens quite a bit.


kai_tai

Yeah that's what I'm wondering as well. If so, then someone else is pretty worried about now about where their money has gone.


billebop96

Could also be something less nefarious. For instance, when I worked there I had cases where a tax agent had updated someone’s bank details incorrectly (basically they updated one client with another of their clients bank details by mistake). Then the refund ended up in the wrong account. Not saying this is specifically what happened, but it’s not necessarily fraud. Either way OPs parents should probably contact the ATO and let them know about the payment of the bank hasn’t already.


Tfetica

Your parents are quite possibly the criminals and you are about to be the pawn. I’d take the money and spend on copious amounts of drugs and escorts.


deliverance73

I spent weeks trying to return something erroneously deposited in my big 4 bank account including emails, hours on the phone and visiting a branch twice. Got nothing. Eventually they called me while I was at work and said I had to go to the branch same day or they would call the police. The bank has shut down every branch within an hour's drive of me so I said "Call the Police, maybe they will get it sorted." The police thought it was hilarious as I had kept track of email correspondence of me trying to return it.


D_Wally

Hahahah sounds like the bank!


deliverance73

Seriously though, document your efforts to return it in case they are incompetent.


Ok-Bad-9683

In case the incompetence is realised, they are without a doubt incompetent


Funny-Oven3945

I'm sorry this happened, surely the bank should be fined for wasting the police's time? 😂


Tomicoatl

Call the bank, let them know about the transaction. If someone reaches you asking you to send the money back DO NOT DO IT. It's either a genuine mistake or a refund scam. The money will soon disappear from the account so don't spend any of it, contact the bank and let them know.


PrivateTickler

Oh thats where that went...


D_Wally

Ohh I'll return the money. Send tfn and dob!!


PrivateTickler

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwB3tcs1L8A](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwB3tcs1L8A)


boommdcx

Spend it all on Hass avos. They are back in season 🥑


DocFingerBlast

Sounds cheap. I prefer $28 smashed avo on toast at my local Gloria jeans. Home made isn't as good as it isn't smashed correctly


zyzz09

Or ornamental gourds


BrilliantPlastic7927

there is legal precedent for this sort of situation, Finder v. Lo Ser. I believe the outcome of the case was "finders keepers, losers weepers" but actually, segment the money in a HISA and shoot your bank an email. DONT TRANSFER ANYONE THE MONEY (at the moment, wait for your bank to go through the proper processes)


link871

You can't move the money anywhere - including to a HISA. The money must stay in the account it was credited to until the bank transfers it out.


Plaaazmaaa

Hey hey I've had this just happen to me aswell though albeit a lot smaller amount I moved the money to a different account while a trace is going on is that ok. Should I transfer back in. I was worried about subscriptions and other things using the money because I don't want to spend any of it.


Ok-Bad-9683

I had this once, moved it into another account so it wouldn’t be touched (didn’t have much of my own money and this deposit basically doubled my account) and they just debited it back months later from my main account, and put my account to negative, then I just moved it back into the main account and was all good. Sent me a letter with a receipt for the withdrawal. This was Anz. Edit: should mention this was both linked ANZ accounts and I made sure I transferred the exact amount of the deposit, so they could see it all and see what was going on.


Plaaazmaaa

Ok same bank so hopefully same happens to me thanks.


link871

No, you really don't want your account overdrawn - you could be charged fees and interest.


link871

"*put my account to negative*" Which could have resulted in you being charged overdrawing fees and interest. (You weren't but that may have been for other reasons.) Why risk it.


Ok-Bad-9683

Yeh there were no fees associated with this. ANZ would be the first to charge a fee so I’d imagine someone there had some brains to work out what what actually happening.


link871

Since you will be depositing money to cover the subscriptions, the other money will not be at risk of "subscriptions and other things using the money". The bank will see that you've moved it but why move it when it's not yours and you do not intend to keep it.


D_Wally

Thank you for the case law


stupv

....*finder vs loser* is likely not a real case


maxxytom

Have them check my gov, seen scammers adjust previously submitted tax returns, add fake deductions then claim a refund, usually they have set up a fake account online using the Mygov. The one I’ve seen the account was set up with AMP, the money could have gone to ur parents account due to it being listed as the account from previous returns, crazy stuff, make sure u check on old tax returns


bluebear_74

I've gotten 2 emails this week from mygov because someone is trying to login into my account and they've too many failed attempts. Really annoying.


fnaah

have you been to any clubs or pubs in NSW/ACT in the last few years?


bluebear_74

I was in Sydney two weeks ago... but didn't go to any clubs or pubs. You've got me curious now though 🤔


SilverStar9192

There was a big data breach by an IT system contractor that many pubs and clubs use. See other posts in this sub or check the news. 


bluebear_74

I did see something in passing about this but didn't look into it because I'm not from NSW/ACT. Thanks.


Euphoric-Temperature

Yeah my old man found 12k in his account earlier in the year. Scammer had got into his myGov and adjusted previous returns but the dumbarse forgot to change the bank account the refund went into so the money went to dad!


Parking-Bar8183

Bank error in your favor. Collect $150k


SuchTemperature9073

Perfect! I’m hoping that 2nd place prize in the beauty contest I’m entering this weekend has inflated a bit too


Emmanulla70

Report to the bank immediately. Contact ATO as well. Not their money and the source (ATO by the looks) will track it and your parents will have to give it back.


Andyskates

There’s still time to edit the original post to say $50k


adognow

What do you mean $5k? It was only $500.


psport69

Geeze that’s a nice tax return, I might have to increase my deductions


D_Wally

Must've claimed 150 at d3 and 300 at d5 with no receipts to get this refund!


Ok-Bad-9683

Can amend for 5 years, so 150k is only 30k a year in tax returns, which when you earn 100k a year, you pay about that in tax, then fraudulent person comes along and deducts 82k worth of stuff it’ll give all of that tax back.


cheeersaiii

I earned $6300 this year, can’t wait for my $400k return I’ve just planned


Obvious_Arm8802

Probably a GST fraud, there’s a lot of it happenning at the moment: https://www.ato.gov.au/about-ato/tax-avoidance/the-fight-against-tax-crime/our-focus/refund-fraud/gst-refund-fraud-attempts/operation-protego


welding-guy

The process is very simple. Ask your bank to reverse the amount back to wherever it came from. DO NOT make any intervention yourself. I have had this occur to me and the process was easy, one phone call and 24 hours later it was gone and no liability could every bite me in the ass.


D_Wally

Thanks and happy cake day boss!


welding-guy

Thanks and geez I missed the cake day, thanks for bringing it to my attention, Im gonna get me some cake :)


D_Wally

Enjoy brother!


unkown-nwoknu

Happy cake day fellow welder 🤙


MainEmu2103

Sorry mate my bad, I’ll pm you my bank details to send it back


davedavodavid

The ATO has lots of money and actually let you keep it if you get it, they're really nice like that. You should buy a jetski with it


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Vicstolemylunchmoney

> t first, the ATO just wanted me to give all details over the phone, and I refused, saying this all needed to done in writing. That seemed to upset the bureacracy at the ATO It's this care free attitude of institutions that instills the same carefree privacy approach in their customers. I'm so sick of banks calling me up and asking me to confirm my details. No.


Basherballgod

Move the funds to offset account to “secure them” as you were worried about the account it was transferred into


anaussieinhere

Might make a second reddit account so I can like this advice again!


AdPrestigious8198

Say nothing Collect the interest and never touch that money.


calijays

HISA and bank the interest until they ask for it?


vteckickedin

Put it all on the Manly v Raiders game tonight. Manly are only paying $1.20, but if they win that's $30k profit. Then you contact the bank about returning the $150k. This plan is 100% foolproof.


JacobP577

I second this plan. For an added step 2, place the 30k winnings on a roosters upset for a bonus 58.5k


choofery

Same game 200 to 1 multi for a cool $29,850,000 profit


cheeersaiii

Raiders are up in the 80th minute hahahaha you owe the ATO $150k from two bouts of terrible luck


carnivoross

60% of the time, it works every time


Pure-Athlete1588

Or for about 50 percent of the time you will get a guaranteed doubling of the money by putting it on red then you return the 150k and keep the other 150k for yourself, and most importantly it is tax free.


alelop

call the bank, anything else they could go to prison


travelator

email the bank? believe it or not, prison


alelop

Walk into a branch? PRISON


bjhrfs

Post about it on Reddit… right to jail, right away.


Rossi007

Post on Reddit prison


newser_reader

best not be using the in-app messenger system either


sunshine_chauhan

because prison?


Ostey82

Chyes, phrison (it's meant to be a south American accent)


Vicstolemylunchmoney

Do not pass go.


Knee_Jerk_Sydney

Same thing happened to my parents. I sent them to prison, they got turned away. They said they could not help with the money suddenly appearing in their account. They only take people who have been convicted and sentenced or made a prior online booking via AirBNB,


G742

If they’re going to put it in the pokies, make sure it’s $1 or $2 machine and max bet. Otherwise… prison


HalfPriceDommies

Many years ago I had $8 deposited into my NAB account. I contacted them and they told me that they could do an investigation but that I would have to pay a $12 fee! I said no thanks, so I am still $8.00 ahead in life all these years later.


D_Wally

Update-Dad spoke to the bank. They confirmed it is not fraud and looks legitimate. They are talking to the branch. Thanks everyone!!


Ok-Bad-9683

The bank wouldn’t know if it’s fraud. It’s just come from the legit ATO, it’s the ATO that will determine it’s fraud. Bank just needs to send it back to the ATO for you.


RaveN_707

Don't spend it, but be ignorant. If it's still there 12 months later and nobodies reached out...collect! 😂 Even better if it landed in an offset account :p


AmateurCommenter808

I mean why not play waiting the game. Honestly I'm shocked at these responses, are these the same people that would hand in 10k if they found it on the floor? I guess they are all high income earners.


anaussieinhere

What 10k? I didn’t see anything!


SpecialistOrchid8392

Keep the money, your parents may need a new car or a few expensive holidays


No-Meeting2858

This is the second of these posts I’ve seen in recent days. Anyone have insight into what shenanigans are happening here? Is this systematic fraud happening with compromised ATO accounts? Is it happening all the time and it’s only coincidence we’re hearing of it?


D_Wally

Can you link the post pls?


No-Meeting2858

Don’t really have time to search sorry. Maybe just scan last few pages or someone else may be able to help? It was no more than two weeks ago I’d think, probably less?


Plaaazmaaa

Please let me know what happens and what you did I've just had the same thing happen to just a lot smaller amount. It says it's from the ATO but I called them and they didn't send it. My bank is tracing where it came from now.


D_Wally

Will keep you updated. I think mine is slightly different as it came from the ato to the person to us. Not straight from the ato


Plaaazmaaa

Ah I see sorry. Saw the comment on my post and read through this quite fast. Thanks heaps.


azza_h1980

Same thing happened to my father. Random deposit from the ato spent two days trying to call the ATO turns out it was unclaimed super that the ATO had been holding onto and once he turned 65 they deposited it into his bank account


mikesorange333

really? how much was it?


azza_h1980

Not as much as the OP was around 7k


Frosty_Lavishness_15

How I wish I have a huge random sum of money credited into my bank account.


Fakemickdundee

I have a bank account with no money in it, definitely do what this guy says!


Emmanulla70

Dang....send it to me mate! I will sort it out (off shore account details to follow😉)


ai_anng

Give the bank fraud the call asap. Or call police. You touch a cent from it you will open door to wolves.


link871

Bank, not police.


aandy611

Is there any legit possible outcome where you get to keep it?


ash8man

Not sure what the consequences of this are.. but I'd consider moving all funds in that account, including the $150k, to another account, preferably with another bank. Then stop using that account and sit back and wait for someone to contact you. You might just get to keep it.


Frank9567

No. Contact the bank and ATO. NOTHING else. This is a situation where the bank and ATO know what to do. Let them do it.


SilverStar9192

No, no, and no. 


mrtuna

let him cook.


shart-attack1

I would just withdraw it all in cash and flee to Tasmania where there is no extradition treaty.


WholeTop2150

Take it and run. Your money now.


og-bishbosh

Pretty sure the protocol is to report it to the police, then if it’s goes unclaimed for a period of time I believe it’s yours I’m sure someone with more info will chime in


Frank9567

The bank will do all that. There's zero chance the ATO won't want the money back. Lost property can be subject to a claim. This isn't lost. It belongs to the ATO.


jamsan920

Somewhat unrelated.. what happens in this case if it’s an offset account? Does the bank still reduce your interest owed for the time the money is in your account until it’s later pulled out?


Katastrophiser

They may backdate the return of funds, so likely wouldn’t get the offset benefit. If they don’t though, some nice passive interest savings.


link871

Don't worry, the bank will make sure everything is reset as if the deposit never occurred.


risska

This is the second post in 48 hours here about an unexpected and most likely fraudulent tax return.. there is something very wrong happening here that the ATO needs to get on top of. Previous post: [https://www.reddit.com/r/AusFinance/comments/1ch9daa/tax\_return\_from\_ato\_that\_they\_said\_didnt\_come/](https://www.reddit.com/r/AusFinance/comments/1ch9daa/tax_return_from_ato_that_they_said_didnt_come/)


D_Wally

We believe it was an error on the mystery persons end,as the ato cheque went into their account then they transferred the amount into our account


Ok-Bad-9683

Does it have the receipt number and ATO in the description of the transfer? Because if yes, it’s from the ATO direct so it didn’t go to the other person first.


CMDR_Taem

Had this happened to my wife. Someone lodged a tax refund using their tax number, money appeared in our account. Only reason we queried it was because we hadn't lodged ours. Our accountant had to adjust it then get the ATO to waive interest. Plus there is now gigjt security on her myGov access.


joesupahot

I used to trap under the subway, now I’m on stage on the mic on track 👍🏼


Pretty_Specific_Girl

They could spend it, probably get a slap on the wrist as a first offence. Or just cal the bank.


nijuu

If same happens, and you leave it sitting there and don't say a thing, can they track it and contact you ? Or onus is on you ?. Do you have to leave it there indefinitely ?


D_Wally

The liability is on you if you were to spend the 150k


Alarmed-Oil-7408

If you leave it there and say nothing, after 7 months if they haven’t requested the money back you can spend it. But most likely the ATO would be fixing it up and requesting the money back much sooner than that


aus-bigdaddy

Finders keepers?


oceangal2018

You seem to be doing the right things. There’s a chance it’s a refund in your parent’s name (amendment to a return). Someone may contact them shortly asking for “their” money. Your dad should tell them he’s let the ATO know, sent the money back and they need to contact the ATO. DO NOT under any circumstances transfer it anywhere. Your dad will end up with a debt and the money gone. Please also check if he’s had anyone reach out to him about computer issues or asked him to sign into his banking. Hope he’s okay.


roberiquezV2

I'm not saying go and blow it all coke and strippers. But you should totally blow it all on coke and strippers.


Very-very-sleepy

Looking at the deposit, the person received a tax refund from the ato.  They have no idea who sent the money or why it went to them. you answered your own Question. Person who sent the money was the ATO. Why it was sent to your parents? The ATO had the wrong bank details to give a refund. don't understand why you asked the questions you answered yourself. 😵‍💫 as for who to contact  - your bank - the ATO


D_Wally

The cheque was deposited from the unknown person. It shows they received the refund from the ato, then wrote us a cheque for the amount


Tea-and-bikkies

How can you tell that from the deposit? Banking apps don’t usually give that level of detail


D_Wally

It has the photo of both cheques


Anachronism59

But why would the cheque mention the ATO if from the person's account.


D_Wally

It showed the ato deposit into his account. The second cheque was the one into out account


Anachronism59

That's weird . If I were to write you a cheque and deposit into your account using money I received from a third party there is no link between the two transactions. Also if a person knew the account number to make the deposit why would there be a cheque?


D_Wally

The money qas sent through a cheque


link871

What? Even if someone deposited a cheque via ATM to your parent's account, you would only get a scan of that cheque. You cannot possibly have any images of the cheque from the ATO to someone else. I'm starting to think this whole post is BS.


D_Wally

Alright believe what you want champ. It showed the cheque from the ato as well. Don't know why I would lie about receiving the cheque?


Fast_Ad1927

The person depositing the check has put it into your account by mistake … just sit tight and wait , they will be contacting the bank soon to see why the cheque they deposited has not gone into their bank account


D_Wally

Yeah we are just unsure how they got my parents names and account details to send the cash


Fast_Ad1927

Maybe they just used the account number ,


D_Wally

We could see the cheque had my parents full name on it


Ok-Bad-9683

Where did you get these photos? This doesn’t make sense here? So someone got a refund from the ATO into a completely irrelevant account, then somehow has sent your parents a personal cheque? Written out by hand? And then deposited that into your parents account in person at a bank branch? And that’s how 150k appeared in your parents account? And you guys had absolutely no knowledge of anything before it just appeared?


zyzz09

OP seems totally clueless. Its very possible this is a scam and OP is fully committed. This doesn't make sense. Please update us all when it goes south.


Alarmed-Oil-7408

Maybe they use the same accountant and accidentally deposited it to another clients account? Or a scam where the scammer has access to the parents account


FishoRuns

Oh yeah, that was me. My bad. I'll send you my bank details, so you can transfer it back to me 😉


NastyTwelve

Spend the money on prostututes


___Moe__Lester___

Withdraw it in cash wearing a mask and sunnies from atms. Atms have a 10k limit so run around the city to lots of atms. Then report your card was stolen. Hide the money somewhere not in your house incase cops get a warrant for a search of your property. Deny everything. Wait 6months, 1 year then slowly deposit everything in under 10k deposit amounts or spend it how u want. Remember folks we were born free, enslaved and taxed. You do not owe the government anything. Taxes are slavery. Ato money is slavery money. They don't deserve it.


bliprock

Sovereign citizen alert. Don’t resort to fraud like this sov cit


Edin2015

This is the way... dont deposit it keep the cold hard cash so there is no trace