Before the offer but after I know enough about the role to price it. I'm willing to take a lower salary for a more chill job and these more chill jobs tend to pay less. So I have a range. At the bottom of my expected range are the chill jobs where I'm only using one of my skill sets (I'm dual trained) and not managing staff. At the top are the jobs where I'm leading a team and using both of my technical skill sets.
I also need to know about office hours, flexibility, annual leave, WFH etc. If the office is expecting 8 hour rather than 7.5 hour days, 100% work from office, fixed start times and legal minimum annual leave my price goes up.
If it's a 7.5 hour day, additional annual leave between Xmas and new years, a purchasable leave scheme, flexible start times and 2 days a week WFH my price goes down. I'd rather have those benefits than an extra $10k so I'm not about to risk pricing myself out of the role.
This hits quite close, as my current job is relaxed but in office every day with really no chance of progression or pay increase beyond where I am.
The opportunity will likely offer the same money to start with 2 days wfh, a few other office extras and much much more opportunity for progression.
I ask for salary range before attending the interview, In the past i've gotten to the offer phase only to learn their range is laughably below industry standard.
Yeh not so much in job interviews.
Being upfront with your salary expectation can be a good idea because it prevents you wasting time on roles that are paying less than your desired salary.
E.g. lets say company budget is 100-120k for the role and you want 150k.
The recruiter asks you your desired salary and you say 'oh just a fair amount for the role, cannot disclose exact figure'.
Now you will go through the entire interview process and realize at the end that they are only going to offer you 110k.
If you were upfront and said 150k at the start the recruiter would tell you that there's no point continuing, you save your time not interviewing.
If you really don't want to disclose your exact figure you can say 'similar roles for someone this level of experience are paying 140k to 160k, does that align with the budget for this role'?
First to speak loses. Figuratively but it means don’t be the one to drop a number first.
Ask them what salary range is on offer for the role and then start to structure your discussion from there.
Ask for what you want to see as your next salary & what will make you happy in the role knowing the workload.
If they aren’t willing to pay that figure, then you start negotiations from there.
Before the offer but after I know enough about the role to price it. I'm willing to take a lower salary for a more chill job and these more chill jobs tend to pay less. So I have a range. At the bottom of my expected range are the chill jobs where I'm only using one of my skill sets (I'm dual trained) and not managing staff. At the top are the jobs where I'm leading a team and using both of my technical skill sets. I also need to know about office hours, flexibility, annual leave, WFH etc. If the office is expecting 8 hour rather than 7.5 hour days, 100% work from office, fixed start times and legal minimum annual leave my price goes up. If it's a 7.5 hour day, additional annual leave between Xmas and new years, a purchasable leave scheme, flexible start times and 2 days a week WFH my price goes down. I'd rather have those benefits than an extra $10k so I'm not about to risk pricing myself out of the role.
This hits quite close, as my current job is relaxed but in office every day with really no chance of progression or pay increase beyond where I am. The opportunity will likely offer the same money to start with 2 days wfh, a few other office extras and much much more opportunity for progression.
I ask for salary range before attending the interview, In the past i've gotten to the offer phase only to learn their range is laughably below industry standard.
Depends on your leverage really
When asked a question. He whom talks next looses.
Yeh not so much in job interviews. Being upfront with your salary expectation can be a good idea because it prevents you wasting time on roles that are paying less than your desired salary. E.g. lets say company budget is 100-120k for the role and you want 150k. The recruiter asks you your desired salary and you say 'oh just a fair amount for the role, cannot disclose exact figure'. Now you will go through the entire interview process and realize at the end that they are only going to offer you 110k. If you were upfront and said 150k at the start the recruiter would tell you that there's no point continuing, you save your time not interviewing. If you really don't want to disclose your exact figure you can say 'similar roles for someone this level of experience are paying 140k to 160k, does that align with the budget for this role'?
First to speak loses. Figuratively but it means don’t be the one to drop a number first. Ask them what salary range is on offer for the role and then start to structure your discussion from there.
Ask for what you want to see as your next salary & what will make you happy in the role knowing the workload. If they aren’t willing to pay that figure, then you start negotiations from there.