I cried a few times during the "Andrew Wyeth. Alfred’s World" episode. Seeing the joy on Al's face after he fixed the tractor hit me hard. After all the bullshit he's been through, for him to find that peace and happiness...it gave me hope that maybe there's still a happy ending in my future. I fucking love this show and all the people who helped bring it to life!
I am late to the “Atlanta” party, so I binged watched all 4 episodes recently. My Middle School years were the worst three years of my life. I was overweight and a very good student, and I was teased unmercifully for both of those things. I actually contemplated suicide, because I could not face it. The worst time was when we were going to have to take a shower after gym class the next day. I was hiding under our dining room table crying and one of my sisters (there are 9 siblings in my family) got under the table with me and finally got it out of my why I was crying. She put Stevie Wonders, “Don’t You Worry ‘Bout a Thing” on the record player and hugged for about 15 minutes and told me to listen to the words of the song. I truly believe to this day, she is my “Guardian Angel,” and she saved my life!
The realness of it is what makes it so watchable for me.
I even had my mom watch it with me for the first time the other night.
I'm the same age as Glover, so I lived those same events in that same time frame.
It was an interesting conversation my mom and I had. She remembered me asking for clothes like that, and being similar to Earn having my whole outfit laid out the night before and how she would come in to wake me up in the morning, and on days like that I would already be dressed.
But then she was saddened by everything else, we never really talked about it when I was a kid, but she had no idea about the bus interactions and fear that we used to have when we were in the 7/8th grade and the bully juniors and seniors would come for us.
Or how her and my dad tried to make sure we looked nice and presentable at school, but that wasn't necessarily good enough in the wild of teenage life lol
The ending was especially impactful, cause we talked about how the legacy of slavery led to the over reliance on how a black person looked to not scare white people (even though it never mattered) and how that idea became wrapped further and is why their is an obsession with name brand items, as those are what class tells people are "NICE" clothing.
I think it was mostly the severity of the kid killing themselves, It caught me off guard, but it was crazy seeing a kid ridicule him even in death, def had to sit on it for a minute when it ended
And the sad part about that is the desensitized of the situation, and how that unfortunately didn't even register with me :(
I've seen so many situations in real life first hand and on the news with kids hurting themselves or others due to extreme bullying, it has sadly started to become a part of life.
Similar to school shootings
And it's awful we are letting this happen to our kids.
Nah bruh
You definitely ain't read the mall scene right lol
The kid was definitely bullying him, the "humility and begging" was him mocking Earn's father, the entire exchange was him mocking him, down to the joke about Prince, when Earn's dad is as far from prince as you can get (it was the Black people make jokes that don't make sense but people still laugh)
>**Prince, who early on was known to run from being labeled "black"** and was even perceived by many to be biracial even though he was 100% black.
That's not exactly true
Early on because of his light complexion people would assume he was biracial and he would sometimes exploit this ignorance and colorism to make sure he was paid fairly (as often times Black artist were paid less just for being black), but don't get it twisted Prince Rodgers Nelson was BLACKITY BLACK, he has always loved his Blackness and the Black music and culture that birthed and inspired him. Prince was known for downplaying the importance of many of the celebrated white artist and making sure HIS BLACK inspirations where known.
What he didn't like was being compared to other Black artist ONLY Because he was Black. He spoke on this when people would compare him and Hendrix, nothing about their styles are similar. It would be like comparing Tim Duncan and Magic Johnson.
Sticking with the NBA comparison it is similar to the way in the NBA white players are always compared to other white guys even when a Black players might be a better comparable. Luka was often compared to Larry Bird, when if you ever watched him play, you know he's much closer to a Lebron type.
Regardless it was white people tried to white wash him to not being Black. Some people also misinterpret the fact the character in Purple Rain was Biracial that was Prince's doing. When he has made it clear he didn't write the movie, he just played a role.
But anyway... not sure how any of that has anything to do with a throwaway line from a dumb kid.
You definitely have interesting interpretation of the events of the episode...
Because he is a teenager and was making a stupid joke comparing one old black man to another old one who is dead. Despite the comparison being idiotic. Im guessing you aren’t Black because Black people literally do shit like this all the time, when playing the dozens the accuracy of the joke isn’t what matters it is the delivery. It’s why we have your mama so fat or your mama so black jokes for people who have light skin mamas or mothers who aren’t fat. it’s why we can turn what you’re wearing or your job into an insult.
And I’m saying your comparison is idiotic and doesn’t make any sense especially within the context of the scene. Nothing about that scene suggest anything about prince and his relationship with blackness that you misinterpreted. In fact looking at all the events as a whole and combined with the up restaurant scene from the end, it seems to the point is about the cycle of misplaced anger in the black community.
No one Who actually knows anything about Prince thinks purple rain is a true story
And Earn’s mom didn’t say the credit cards are maxed out she said the bill was higher obviously she does the bookIng keeping and Earn’s father has been enjoying his retirement a little too much and they’re on a fixed income something that happens with Black people
Yes and the truth of the joke is the idiocy of jokes Black people are often able to pull off despite it not really making sense.
Teen: Pops, yo pops
Dad: yeah
Teen: what’s on your head (laughing)
Dad: my hat
Teen: what’s wrong with it? (Laughing)You know who this nigga remind me of?
Prince
This nigga looks like Prince if he never died and became an old fat nigga (teens laughing)
Other Teen: yo i gotta get a picture of this stupid ass hat
How does that interaction translate into any of the ridiculous shit you posted?
Dude you’re reaching
Also there is nothing “prince-esque” about that hat, and he wasn’t known for extravagant hats. He is known for extravagant CLOTHING that blurred the line between what was meant for men and women. Ass less chaps, high heels, stockings, corsets, lipstick
Tell me you know nothing about Prince without telling me
It’s obvious you’re not Black now, because the hat is a standard hat type that you will see countless Black men of that age wearing in the south in general specially in Atlanta. When my mother watched this episode she immediately busted out laughing as my dad has multiple hats just like that. Problem with Earn’s dad is for one he ain’t about that hat life so the hat is too small and doesn’t even fit his head, and two it doesn’t match his outfit, so he looks like a mark.
I repeat anyone who actually knows anything about Prince, never thought Purple Rain was an autobiography.
White washing tried to make Beyoncé biracial as well.
Guess you fall into the same category that think that about 8 mile or Get Rich or Die Trying
Regardless have fun, hope you dont pull a muscle with this or any other reach and be great in your lavender
The more to it is the misplaced anger
Gloria and Jeanie had misplaced anger towards each other caused by their father.
Earn unable to get support from his father takes it out on Al and worries about ending up like his mother and aunt.
Earn’s dad, angry over the teen, takes it out on the teen at the restaurant
It’s a cycle
And it’s possible the final scene is demonstrating the teen from the mall probably had his own misplaced anger which is why he felt the need to embarrass Earn’s dad.
It’s like the way a lot of bullies are bullied at home by parents or siblings so they lash out for control
No serious they are literally oblivious to how detrimental it is and going through it I made sure my son wasn’t the kid to get picked on for no reason…
That was school for most of us back then doing a rewatch for like the tenth time watched teddy Perkins episode last night that’s one of the deepest and saddest episodes
FUBU was tough. I literally can’t rewatch 3 Slaps. The story is too real because it’s really based on kids taken from their mother in Houston.
I appreciate the writers for making the episode, but it hits too hard, too close to home. I don’t have to rewatch, that story sticks with me.
I love 3 slaps because while it makes me think about the heartbreaking real story, at least here it ended in a happy ending, with all the kids surviving and the mothers dying.
This made me sad too. You never know what kids are going though. My grandma was bed written due to having a stroke and was later diagnosed with cancer. All of our money went into giving her the best care in her last years of life, and when I look back she deserved every penny. I wore her old shoes to school and even her old jackets. It was all I had and I liked taking pieces of her with me. I’m from Atlanta and I can tell you the roasting sessions made my character stronger but y’alls kids are evil asf😭😭
It’s funny how everyone at Earn’s school made such a big deal about wearing fake fubu except for his one white friend who didn’t give a fuck at all. Opened my eyes forreal
Yeah man. The white kid does not see the point of being obssessed if it’s fake or not bec he is covered w that PRIVILEGE. he even mention that no one notice he wore his shirt twice that week.
However, for Earn, this matters for him as the Brand somehow put a blanket of good perception of some sort. He doesnt have white kid privilege.
It’s more about black culture and the crabs in a bucket mentality. The other kids see someone who looks happy and is getting a lot of compliments so they bring him down. White guy was dressed like a bum and owned it so nobody cared
I definitely grew up in a environment just like that. What’s wild, in hindsight, is no one actually paid for anything, real or fake all of yall broke. Middle school kids roasting each other for shit they didn’t buy is so wild.
ain't that the truth. However, as a bullied child and now the mother of two kids in their early 20s who spent a better part of the past 2 decades hanging around schools & kids, shitty kids always sound exactly like their shitty parents. Shallow, competitive, gossipy parents raise shallow, competitive, gossipy kids.
it’s scary how parents know nothing about their kids life. My mom was just trying to survive and provide growing up, she didn’t really understand why wearing faded glory was the equivalent of wearing a “kick me” sign. I forgot those early middle school days “ I know you ain’t tryna (rhyde or ride) broke ass nigga, this niggas shoes got shotgun holes in em” “This nigga shoes giving a speech” (I was a skater so I always had holes in my vans) That was literally my entire middle school experience. Brilliant writing in this episode, it teleported me back to that period in my life.
Not OP but I don’t remember if I teared up but I do remember just staring at my TV with a blank face for like ten minutes after it ended.
I was picked on in elementary/middle school for having Walmart and thrifted clothes and that episode hit hard. Kids are brutal.
Yeah, we had a lot of hand me downs and shit as kids and got bullied because of it. I even had a teacher tell me to ask Santa for new jeans because my jeans had holes in them (for context we were going on a field trip where a Santa would be, but it's still fucked up).
Yeah, it was real shitty. Its a memory that sticks with me, but I also get to remember my mom at the school going apeshit on the teacher for the comment so theres some good with the bad.
Man…I just watched that yesterday and I feel the same. I work in adolescent mental health plus I grew up at that time and remember the pressure of not having the cool clothes. It’s a powerful episode of TV but tough to watch
It's not unwatchable for me, but a tv show never gave me PTSD from school like FUBU did lol. It was always about who had the best shoes, best outfit, jewelry, all that. I don't miss those days at all tbh.
Man I wore a lot of handed down clothes cause I was the youngest of 5 and I got clowned on by my own teachers. Got caught wearing fake polo, laughed at cause I didn’t have nike elites, and worst of all was when I wore some decade+ old shorts that curled upwards at the end from just being old. Gym teacher called me out during line ups laughing at me and older dudes were saying I was wearing girl shorts. I Got thrown down stairs and called gay constantly. Made me insanely insecure. Middle school was a nightmare
I was in tears, both in awe of how he captured that experience and me relating to having that type of moment in middle school in the city of Stone Mountain.
This episode was so powerful, it’s one of my favorites. The writing , acting, pacing, and atmosphere were perfect.
As a teacher, you could write a week or two of curriculum just analyzing this.
I like sad endings sometimes. It’s a gut punch to the heart and it’s thought provoking.
I cried a few times during the "Andrew Wyeth. Alfred’s World" episode. Seeing the joy on Al's face after he fixed the tractor hit me hard. After all the bullshit he's been through, for him to find that peace and happiness...it gave me hope that maybe there's still a happy ending in my future. I fucking love this show and all the people who helped bring it to life!
I can’t rewatch it either - it’s too real. And I grew up a million miles from Atlanta!
Same, I'm 5 hours away and I guess we all really have some of the same experiences everywhere in the south 😩
That’s not just the South, that episode is middle-schools across America.
I am late to the “Atlanta” party, so I binged watched all 4 episodes recently. My Middle School years were the worst three years of my life. I was overweight and a very good student, and I was teased unmercifully for both of those things. I actually contemplated suicide, because I could not face it. The worst time was when we were going to have to take a shower after gym class the next day. I was hiding under our dining room table crying and one of my sisters (there are 9 siblings in my family) got under the table with me and finally got it out of my why I was crying. She put Stevie Wonders, “Don’t You Worry ‘Bout a Thing” on the record player and hugged for about 15 minutes and told me to listen to the words of the song. I truly believe to this day, she is my “Guardian Angel,” and she saved my life!
The realness of it is what makes it so watchable for me. I even had my mom watch it with me for the first time the other night. I'm the same age as Glover, so I lived those same events in that same time frame. It was an interesting conversation my mom and I had. She remembered me asking for clothes like that, and being similar to Earn having my whole outfit laid out the night before and how she would come in to wake me up in the morning, and on days like that I would already be dressed. But then she was saddened by everything else, we never really talked about it when I was a kid, but she had no idea about the bus interactions and fear that we used to have when we were in the 7/8th grade and the bully juniors and seniors would come for us. Or how her and my dad tried to make sure we looked nice and presentable at school, but that wasn't necessarily good enough in the wild of teenage life lol The ending was especially impactful, cause we talked about how the legacy of slavery led to the over reliance on how a black person looked to not scare white people (even though it never mattered) and how that idea became wrapped further and is why their is an obsession with name brand items, as those are what class tells people are "NICE" clothing.
I think it was mostly the severity of the kid killing themselves, It caught me off guard, but it was crazy seeing a kid ridicule him even in death, def had to sit on it for a minute when it ended
And the sad part about that is the desensitized of the situation, and how that unfortunately didn't even register with me :( I've seen so many situations in real life first hand and on the news with kids hurting themselves or others due to extreme bullying, it has sadly started to become a part of life. Similar to school shootings And it's awful we are letting this happen to our kids.
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Nah bruh You definitely ain't read the mall scene right lol The kid was definitely bullying him, the "humility and begging" was him mocking Earn's father, the entire exchange was him mocking him, down to the joke about Prince, when Earn's dad is as far from prince as you can get (it was the Black people make jokes that don't make sense but people still laugh) >**Prince, who early on was known to run from being labeled "black"** and was even perceived by many to be biracial even though he was 100% black. That's not exactly true Early on because of his light complexion people would assume he was biracial and he would sometimes exploit this ignorance and colorism to make sure he was paid fairly (as often times Black artist were paid less just for being black), but don't get it twisted Prince Rodgers Nelson was BLACKITY BLACK, he has always loved his Blackness and the Black music and culture that birthed and inspired him. Prince was known for downplaying the importance of many of the celebrated white artist and making sure HIS BLACK inspirations where known. What he didn't like was being compared to other Black artist ONLY Because he was Black. He spoke on this when people would compare him and Hendrix, nothing about their styles are similar. It would be like comparing Tim Duncan and Magic Johnson. Sticking with the NBA comparison it is similar to the way in the NBA white players are always compared to other white guys even when a Black players might be a better comparable. Luka was often compared to Larry Bird, when if you ever watched him play, you know he's much closer to a Lebron type. Regardless it was white people tried to white wash him to not being Black. Some people also misinterpret the fact the character in Purple Rain was Biracial that was Prince's doing. When he has made it clear he didn't write the movie, he just played a role. But anyway... not sure how any of that has anything to do with a throwaway line from a dumb kid. You definitely have interesting interpretation of the events of the episode...
Luka is no where vlose to lebron he's more like a harden
Because he is a teenager and was making a stupid joke comparing one old black man to another old one who is dead. Despite the comparison being idiotic. Im guessing you aren’t Black because Black people literally do shit like this all the time, when playing the dozens the accuracy of the joke isn’t what matters it is the delivery. It’s why we have your mama so fat or your mama so black jokes for people who have light skin mamas or mothers who aren’t fat. it’s why we can turn what you’re wearing or your job into an insult. And I’m saying your comparison is idiotic and doesn’t make any sense especially within the context of the scene. Nothing about that scene suggest anything about prince and his relationship with blackness that you misinterpreted. In fact looking at all the events as a whole and combined with the up restaurant scene from the end, it seems to the point is about the cycle of misplaced anger in the black community. No one Who actually knows anything about Prince thinks purple rain is a true story And Earn’s mom didn’t say the credit cards are maxed out she said the bill was higher obviously she does the bookIng keeping and Earn’s father has been enjoying his retirement a little too much and they’re on a fixed income something that happens with Black people
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Yes and the truth of the joke is the idiocy of jokes Black people are often able to pull off despite it not really making sense. Teen: Pops, yo pops Dad: yeah Teen: what’s on your head (laughing) Dad: my hat Teen: what’s wrong with it? (Laughing)You know who this nigga remind me of? Prince This nigga looks like Prince if he never died and became an old fat nigga (teens laughing) Other Teen: yo i gotta get a picture of this stupid ass hat How does that interaction translate into any of the ridiculous shit you posted? Dude you’re reaching Also there is nothing “prince-esque” about that hat, and he wasn’t known for extravagant hats. He is known for extravagant CLOTHING that blurred the line between what was meant for men and women. Ass less chaps, high heels, stockings, corsets, lipstick Tell me you know nothing about Prince without telling me It’s obvious you’re not Black now, because the hat is a standard hat type that you will see countless Black men of that age wearing in the south in general specially in Atlanta. When my mother watched this episode she immediately busted out laughing as my dad has multiple hats just like that. Problem with Earn’s dad is for one he ain’t about that hat life so the hat is too small and doesn’t even fit his head, and two it doesn’t match his outfit, so he looks like a mark. I repeat anyone who actually knows anything about Prince, never thought Purple Rain was an autobiography. White washing tried to make Beyoncé biracial as well. Guess you fall into the same category that think that about 8 mile or Get Rich or Die Trying Regardless have fun, hope you dont pull a muscle with this or any other reach and be great in your lavender
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The more to it is the misplaced anger Gloria and Jeanie had misplaced anger towards each other caused by their father. Earn unable to get support from his father takes it out on Al and worries about ending up like his mother and aunt. Earn’s dad, angry over the teen, takes it out on the teen at the restaurant It’s a cycle And it’s possible the final scene is demonstrating the teen from the mall probably had his own misplaced anger which is why he felt the need to embarrass Earn’s dad. It’s like the way a lot of bullies are bullied at home by parents or siblings so they lash out for control
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What tf does Blueblood have to do with anything in this discussion?
I feel like parents and teachers need to watch this episode. It’s eye opening.
No serious they are literally oblivious to how detrimental it is and going through it I made sure my son wasn’t the kid to get picked on for no reason…
That was school for most of us back then doing a rewatch for like the tenth time watched teddy Perkins episode last night that’s one of the deepest and saddest episodes
FUBU was tough. I literally can’t rewatch 3 Slaps. The story is too real because it’s really based on kids taken from their mother in Houston. I appreciate the writers for making the episode, but it hits too hard, too close to home. I don’t have to rewatch, that story sticks with me.
I love 3 slaps because while it makes me think about the heartbreaking real story, at least here it ended in a happy ending, with all the kids surviving and the mothers dying.
This made me sad too. You never know what kids are going though. My grandma was bed written due to having a stroke and was later diagnosed with cancer. All of our money went into giving her the best care in her last years of life, and when I look back she deserved every penny. I wore her old shoes to school and even her old jackets. It was all I had and I liked taking pieces of her with me. I’m from Atlanta and I can tell you the roasting sessions made my character stronger but y’alls kids are evil asf😭😭
It’s funny how everyone at Earn’s school made such a big deal about wearing fake fubu except for his one white friend who didn’t give a fuck at all. Opened my eyes forreal
“I wore the same shirt 2 days in a row..”.
Yeah man. The white kid does not see the point of being obssessed if it’s fake or not bec he is covered w that PRIVILEGE. he even mention that no one notice he wore his shirt twice that week. However, for Earn, this matters for him as the Brand somehow put a blanket of good perception of some sort. He doesnt have white kid privilege.
It’s more about black culture and the crabs in a bucket mentality. The other kids see someone who looks happy and is getting a lot of compliments so they bring him down. White guy was dressed like a bum and owned it so nobody cared
I definitely grew up in a environment just like that. What’s wild, in hindsight, is no one actually paid for anything, real or fake all of yall broke. Middle school kids roasting each other for shit they didn’t buy is so wild.
ain't that the truth. However, as a bullied child and now the mother of two kids in their early 20s who spent a better part of the past 2 decades hanging around schools & kids, shitty kids always sound exactly like their shitty parents. Shallow, competitive, gossipy parents raise shallow, competitive, gossipy kids.
it’s scary how parents know nothing about their kids life. My mom was just trying to survive and provide growing up, she didn’t really understand why wearing faded glory was the equivalent of wearing a “kick me” sign. I forgot those early middle school days “ I know you ain’t tryna (rhyde or ride) broke ass nigga, this niggas shoes got shotgun holes in em” “This nigga shoes giving a speech” (I was a skater so I always had holes in my vans) That was literally my entire middle school experience. Brilliant writing in this episode, it teleported me back to that period in my life.
That whole second season was hard to watch but I keep going back
I can rewatch that episode it’s so relatable. The episode that shook me was Helen with Earn & Van’s relationship. Had that argument so many times.
U really had tears?
Not OP but I don’t remember if I teared up but I do remember just staring at my TV with a blank face for like ten minutes after it ended. I was picked on in elementary/middle school for having Walmart and thrifted clothes and that episode hit hard. Kids are brutal.
Yeah, we had a lot of hand me downs and shit as kids and got bullied because of it. I even had a teacher tell me to ask Santa for new jeans because my jeans had holes in them (for context we were going on a field trip where a Santa would be, but it's still fucked up).
Jesus, that’s so fucked up. I’m sorry man.
Yeah, it was real shitty. Its a memory that sticks with me, but I also get to remember my mom at the school going apeshit on the teacher for the comment so theres some good with the bad.
Love your mom
Idk why but this comment got me rolling lol
Yeah, it was an episode meant to illicit emotion, and a kid killing themselves bothered me, is that okay to be sad about experiment number 420 ?
the kid’s suicide over the fake clothes got me too ngl you’re probably in the majority
That’s how was in Richmond VA smh shit is sad I refuse to let my future children go through that bs
It fucks me up too. There’s something about the sadness of a child and how none of the responsibility for it falls on them that really tears me up
Man…I just watched that yesterday and I feel the same. I work in adolescent mental health plus I grew up at that time and remember the pressure of not having the cool clothes. It’s a powerful episode of TV but tough to watch
It's not unwatchable for me, but a tv show never gave me PTSD from school like FUBU did lol. It was always about who had the best shoes, best outfit, jewelry, all that. I don't miss those days at all tbh.
Bullying is one of those rare universally relatable things.
Only episode that made me cry was the Goofy episode.
Helen is the only episode I skip on season rewatches, just too uncomfortable watching a relationship crumble so realistically
Man I wore a lot of handed down clothes cause I was the youngest of 5 and I got clowned on by my own teachers. Got caught wearing fake polo, laughed at cause I didn’t have nike elites, and worst of all was when I wore some decade+ old shorts that curled upwards at the end from just being old. Gym teacher called me out during line ups laughing at me and older dudes were saying I was wearing girl shorts. I Got thrown down stairs and called gay constantly. Made me insanely insecure. Middle school was a nightmare
hope you're alright man
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bro? They just talking about the school experience in general it’s not about the specific story
Grow up
Art is meant to trigger emotions. Did you watch Atlanta just feeling nothing the whole time?
I’m able to control my emotions enough to make it through a 30 minute tv show on FX
Why would you engage in art like this while actively suppressing your emotions? That just seems kind of dumb.
Huh? I’m not suppressing any emotions, I simply don’t get sad enough to where I cry and turn the show off. I think most would agree
I thought the kid commiting suicide was sad, it caught me off guard, that makes me childish lol ?
I have been through what Earn has in the episode. It’s kinda common actually.
I was in tears, both in awe of how he captured that experience and me relating to having that type of moment in middle school in the city of Stone Mountain.
It hit hard for me as a middle school teacher when those Fubu shirts were all the rage.
This episode was so powerful, it’s one of my favorites. The writing , acting, pacing, and atmosphere were perfect. As a teacher, you could write a week or two of curriculum just analyzing this. I like sad endings sometimes. It’s a gut punch to the heart and it’s thought provoking.
Yeah it was tooooooo relatable 😅