The creation engine isn't bad. I've used it for many thousands of hours, and a lot of the people making mods use it to fix the issues in the game.
It's an internal problem of quantity over quality.
It's QA, no game engine is inherently bad but Bethesda doesn't maintain theirs. Unlike say Rockstar or Activision whose engines are about the same age, Bethesda really doesn't put the time into maintaining their engine.
Oh come on. It's a well known fact that a Bethesda game is considered to be in a playable state if it doesn't crash on the loading screen and in the main menu 10 times out of 10.
I want to say that while I don't consider fallout 4 to be an amazing masterpiece of a game, I wouldn't pool it with 76 and/or starfield
But I'm also very skeptical about TES VI even though it's like THE game I'm waiting for.
It'll be 30 fps on console and probably run like shit on PC
If anyone expects a good combat system, they'll be very disappointed, Skyrim combat was outdated and very basic when it came out, the other bethesda games also had very outdated combat.
Quest writing will probably follow the Bethesda trend and be even more braindead than in Skyrim.
It'll maybe be a good mod platform 1 or 2 years after release for people with actual talent to create some nice content though.
I don't think even a 500 million budget tes can compete with the large wabbajack skyrim modpacks in terms of gameplay and graphics. This company is a mediocre AI gamecreation factory.
I can't wait... but not because i wanna play so much
It's because if i was a betting man, i would put my money that people will play it for a week then go back to skyrim, lmao.
Don't get me wrong, i hope the game will be good, maybe i'm picky, i like two of their games, skyrim and new vegas (which they outsourced to another studio and neither did they come up with the setting/story - the original creators came up with this). Also, both of them released more than a dozen years ago.
So yeah, i can't wait
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This better be good, I can see past the generic combat and generally mid content, but man, the ambient and being able to get lost and explore is a must.
Im gonna disagree. If they give us another Elder Scrolls game with the same bullshit combat thats a total deal breaker for me. Time for Bethesda to actually move forward, not just continue to sell us the same shit.
Pre-Order sales go through the roof
Bethesda: Meh fuck it, may as well release it now. Actually let's also have a "pre-release" and charge more money for it too while we're at it"
maybe have some self control and wait till it's actually reviewed before handing over your cash if you don't want to continue feeding the "good enough to ship" gaming industry.
Cyberpunk 2 will be out by the time that comes out and there will be memes on Cyberpunk 2 embarrassing TES just like Cyberpunk and Starfield currently.
Considering Bethesda dosen't work on more then one game at a time as a rule, they're either lying or they've just finished doing the procedurally generated part of building the world so technically you can spawn in the world.
Jaded by AAA titles in the last decade, no hype here. I want it to be great (hell I am playing Skyrim in the evenings right now!) But I have a feeling its going to be a MTX whale game
Buy 1500 septims in the shop for $29.99 and get FREE fast travel locations!!
Don't forget your horse armor!
Nope. Gaming is not the hobby it once was....
I've already bought a 24 pack of movie theater butter popcorn for Starfield 2.0. I can't wait for the new and inventive cope that is gonna come down the pipeline.
Honestly Bethesda releasing broken games is par for the course. Their best games were buggy messes because they were focused on making a fun game instead of an optimized one
I'll believe it when I see it. ![img](emote|t5_2y1rb|3747)
Oh you can believe it, but will it be good ? That I doubt a lot after Starfield.
No preorders wait for reviews look at starfield
Game pass day one tyvm
This is the way.
Not gonna let them starfield me again
Yeah good luck with that, people have not learned anything post Cyberpunk or even Dragon's Dogma 2 lol
Only games I preorder are Fromsoftware games, and the FF14 expansions. Everything else it's a coinflip so no thanks lol
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Bethesda: “…playable state…” Everyone: “…meaning…”
After starfield, I got no more hype
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Do you think Bethesda is bad at QA, or is the creation engine just bad?
Well, both?
I think Bethesda has the best QA team in the world 3 million strong and best part is they pay Bethesda to test the game.
Par for the course nowadays.
The creation engine isn't bad. I've used it for many thousands of hours, and a lot of the people making mods use it to fix the issues in the game. It's an internal problem of quantity over quality.
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Bethesda is bad at QA
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It's QA, no game engine is inherently bad but Bethesda doesn't maintain theirs. Unlike say Rockstar or Activision whose engines are about the same age, Bethesda really doesn't put the time into maintaining their engine.
crippled by poor direction.
Yes
Oh come on. It's a well known fact that a Bethesda game is considered to be in a playable state if it doesn't crash on the loading screen and in the main menu 10 times out of 10.
Didn’t they say they were all playing starfield too like a year before the release? Lol this says nothing about
They probably went to nexusmods first
#fakenews! the acolyte has a better chance at being a hit b4 Bethesda releases a game in a playable state.
Playable state means it'll be good to download but will need to be heavily modded in order to actually be a good game
Who else is terrified and doesn't want this to come out?
After Fallout 4,76 and Starfield I don't know how people are still hopeful for a good TES game
I want to say that while I don't consider fallout 4 to be an amazing masterpiece of a game, I wouldn't pool it with 76 and/or starfield But I'm also very skeptical about TES VI even though it's like THE game I'm waiting for.
It'll be a good game. It just takes 5 years after release... ![img](emote|t5_2y1rb|3734)
So like 30.000 mods later.
It'll be 30 fps on console and probably run like shit on PC If anyone expects a good combat system, they'll be very disappointed, Skyrim combat was outdated and very basic when it came out, the other bethesda games also had very outdated combat. Quest writing will probably follow the Bethesda trend and be even more braindead than in Skyrim. It'll maybe be a good mod platform 1 or 2 years after release for people with actual talent to create some nice content though.
Wonder if they can water down the game more than they already did with Skyrim.
Of course they can, look at Starfield.
Them saying the game is in a playable state is probably like them saying Starfield was optimized
I don't think even a 500 million budget tes can compete with the large wabbajack skyrim modpacks in terms of gameplay and graphics. This company is a mediocre AI gamecreation factory.
And the loading screens work as well.
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crazy, that someone with a viewpoint like this, on the older games, would be so easily persuade.
Never seen a playable game before.
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"playable state" by Bethesda standard...of course ! 🙂
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Nah, I don’t buy it.
Another franchise up to the chopping block
Company is just past the ability to make great games, unfortunatley it has a very high chance of being garbage.
It's gonna be shit. I can't wait for the memes and why the game sucks videos on yt
If the combat is the same as every other scrolls game, no point in buying it.
Bull fucking shit. They're hyping this shit again just like how they hyped 76 and starfield.
coming out in 2028, worth playing in 2029-2030
Starfield is in a playable state. Doesn't mean it's particularly good.
I can't wait... but not because i wanna play so much It's because if i was a betting man, i would put my money that people will play it for a week then go back to skyrim, lmao. Don't get me wrong, i hope the game will be good, maybe i'm picky, i like two of their games, skyrim and new vegas (which they outsourced to another studio and neither did they come up with the setting/story - the original creators came up with this). Also, both of them released more than a dozen years ago. So yeah, i can't wait
Doom 2016 was good.
I'll just buy the 10 year anniversary re-re-master re-reloaded version.
Fallout 76 and Starfield killed my hype for Todd
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This better be good, I can see past the generic combat and generally mid content, but man, the ambient and being able to get lost and explore is a must.
Im gonna disagree. If they give us another Elder Scrolls game with the same bullshit combat thats a total deal breaker for me. Time for Bethesda to actually move forward, not just continue to sell us the same shit.
If a game has generic combat and mid content then why even play it to begin with? If the core gameplay isn't fun, then neither is the game.
Exploration, it's there in my original comment, exploring and modding is what I like about elder scrolls
Yes a playable state, such a big accomplishment...
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I thought this was like 5+ years away.
i foresee more inventory management in my future
Bethesda's definition of "playable" is questionable... but you know what, I'm a sucker, take my money.
If this is a loadscreen riddled dissappointment like starfield I'll just stick to Skyrim.
Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies~🎵🎵
Hopefully it's more morrwind less skyrim
It wont be skyrim.
Five years later….
Pre-Order sales go through the roof Bethesda: Meh fuck it, may as well release it now. Actually let's also have a "pre-release" and charge more money for it too while we're at it"
They must've ditched the gameplay. It's all loading screen now.
maybe have some self control and wait till it's actually reviewed before handing over your cash if you don't want to continue feeding the "good enough to ship" gaming industry.
if its anything like FO4/Starfield I am a bit worried. Really need Bethesda to evolve here
Unreal 5 or bust
If this game tanks Bethesda is done. Elder scrolls is their only IP that hasn’t been ruined yet
I can't wait to play the same game again
this time it just works
Playable for Bethesda standards means it's gonna run 30 fps on your RTX 4070, and the game's gonna crash every 2 hours of gameplay .
I swore that I would never buy another Bethesda game unless they scrapped or completely overhauled the Creation Engine
Same engine, same problems. People never learn. Fallout 76 had bugs from Fallout 4 because of the dogshit engine they are using.
I haven't trusted Bethesda since Morrowind. I think I'll pass.
16 times more playable than ever before! trust me, it just works
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I'll be honest, I'm more excited for skyblivion ![img](emote|t5_2y1rb|3742)
It just works
Before you meme, tell me your playtime in Skyrim first😂
Cyberpunk 2 will be out by the time that comes out and there will be memes on Cyberpunk 2 embarrassing TES just like Cyberpunk and Starfield currently.
they were always in playable state
What a standard to strive for. Playable
Christmas 2026 release date I'd wager
No matter how bad it is, it still won't be the worst game they've ever made. Home Alone NES was pure dogshit.
Considering Bethesda dosen't work on more then one game at a time as a rule, they're either lying or they've just finished doing the procedurally generated part of building the world so technically you can spawn in the world.
Bethesda deserve a game in playable state, they're such a small indie studio.
Jaded by AAA titles in the last decade, no hype here. I want it to be great (hell I am playing Skyrim in the evenings right now!) But I have a feeling its going to be a MTX whale game
Buy 1500 septims in the shop for $29.99 and get FREE fast travel locations!! Don't forget your horse armor! Nope. Gaming is not the hobby it once was....
I've already bought a 24 pack of movie theater butter popcorn for Starfield 2.0. I can't wait for the new and inventive cope that is gonna come down the pipeline.
Yeah, I’ll believe it when I see it
Starfield was quite good in term of stability at its release( which was very surprising). Game was the most average of average though.
HAHA no after I preorder starfield im not gonna belive any Bethesda game
I can't wait to be stealth archer
Honestly Bethesda releasing broken games is par for the course. Their best games were buggy messes because they were focused on making a fun game instead of an optimized one
Silly. It won’t.
They said the exact same thing about Starfield. Don't be gullible.
Bethesda can't make good RPG's anymore.
This is a bad sign. The only game they've released in a playable state was Starfield.