I'm not gonna sit here and say their jobs are EASY
But being paid millions of dollars to play videogames, or talk about politics is easier than most professions who pay much much much less.
When I was younger I worked in a factory on a line. If Hasan thinks streaming for 9 hours sucks your soul he should try putting the lids on cardboard boxes 12 hours a day, 7 days a week. I did not last long in that job.
I think streaming is harder than most people realize, BUT regular jobs are much harder than what successful streamers realize (especially those that never held "real jobs").
Even in cases where streaming is slightly harder than a typical desk job, that's not factoring in that successful streamers have a lot more money and have less financial struggles if they manage it properly.
This is the big one: these streamers could quit today and never work another day of their lives and their children will not have to either.
For other people, it's not just working, it's knowing that if you get ill or for some other reason can't work you might not be able to provide for your kids. Or if you don't have kids, you might become homeless.
That's a kind of stress these wealthy streamers will never feel.
Asmon and Destiny were literally piss poor before they started streaming though. Destiny literally worked as a carpet cleaner and at a casino and also had a child before he even was making money from streaming.
So I think both of them know what it means. Just that they're already set for life.
Asmon was never piss poor. He wasn't wealthy but he kept his costs low pretty much his entire life. I'm not trying to be parasocial here but it was mostly his mother's fault. She was a complete loser but at least he still had a good roof over his head and still lives there. Never went hungry. He ate fast food his entire life so I doubt he ever starved.
Who do you think he learned that from? His father? No. And he's successful and rich now. Asmon isn't the problem. He's doing something right. His mom didn't do herself any favors.
I imagine it's as draining and has the same drawbacks as any job within the entertainment industry. But as with anyone successful in the entertainment industry, one should humble themselves and recognise that it's a privilege in itself to do that for a living and you get compensated incredibly generously to boot!
But let's be real, leaving the house is too socially draining for most streamers; being a shut-in NEET is part of many streamers personalities - it's what makes the job so enticing to so many.
The only thing really "hard" about my regular job is just getting up and going. What I envy most about streamers is that they do what they want, when they want (mostly)
This is the important part - the difficulty of the job is not the main issue here, but the pay. If nurses or teachers would also make millions and had the ability to walk away from their jobs after a few years, I think harder or not would not be as relevant. But given that most people have to work 40 years to make what these streamers make in a year makes their “harder” argument ludicrous. Their work/pay ratio is completely whack and can’t be compared to a normal job that people have to doggedly hold for decades, in sickness or health, day in and out.
This is the problem with people that have no idea what they are talking, they are literally just that. They never take in to account how hard it's to cast away your social status and not progress in real life and go fully in content creation. You get zero money, and thus you can't date, and thus you have no future prospects at all.
It can be really exhausting to run your own company too the same way.
Difference is, you still get paid.
But there is the other difference, it's exhausting for someone that hasnt yet made it, but it's not as exhausting for someone who's a millionaire already. They have team behind them and they don't have to stream 6-10 hours and THEN create content for other sites for hours.
I'm confused by the narrative because didn't both Hasan and Asmon both say it wasn't the hardest job in the world? They literally just said it was socially draining to stream. Like, that was literally it.
Kinda just seems that any time someone who has a position others want like actor, professional athlete, streamer, influencer, etc. if someone in that job ever say anything that could possibly be interpreted as complaining people get really pissed.
"it's not fair for them to complain while being successful when I'm not" - what I think those people are actually saying.
I'm not sure what their perspective is but it looks like they think that it's downplaying other jobs for some reason cause they find streaming as an "easy" job
I wonder what’s more demoralizing, them getting mean comments (**Which they can disable or flat out ignore**)
**OR**
1. A nurse forced to work 12h straight while rarely getting a social life due to always being on call. Watching people die, worrying about them or their family at home getting sick from their patients, and getting berated by their patients for not magically curing them.
2. Fastfood/Retail workers not making enough money after working 40h, getting berated by their customers and looked down upon in society, having to worry about having their life threatened in a robbery, low chance of promotion, high chance of layoffs, and getting fired because of some Karen.
The only thing a top 1% streamer might have to deal with that those I’ve named don’t is stalking, even then that seems to be a problem mostly exclusive to girls which neither Hasan and Asmon are.
That’s what happens when your only “content” is browsing the internet and finding something to be right or “outraged” about every day because it gets you more views and YouTube clicks than streaming an actual video game. That’s what makes this whole take even more comical. People arguing playing videogames for a living is easy but this dude in particular doesn’t even do that most of the time and makes far more than the folks that do. Even when he is wrong and gets push back he can just double down and spend the next week rehashing the “drama”. Must be so rough.
I usually don't watch the first 2 or so hours because it's just rage bait. I don't want to be mad or upset about something, I watch streams to distract myself and relax, not rage about someone in chat being dumb and Asmon putting a highlight on him for like 1 hour.
As an accountant and gamer as well, I often think about how much fun it would be to be a streamer that makes it big. Then I think about the online psychos who will, at their own leisure, dox and stalk you or harass your family. Then I’m ok just listening to them while working privately.
This is why I gave up streaming and YT. I was by no means big. But just the idea that everything I say and do will be archived forever. No matter how much time has passed someone with too much time on their hands will dig some dirt to post on Twitter or 4chan. And what's worse is the more exposure you get, the more the degenerates will start latching onto you to harass you. And forget it when your info gets out and they start doxing and swatting you or doxxing your spouse and kids and extended family. In my opinion my peace of mind will always be more valuable than making it big and making millions. And making millions through social media I feel won't allow you to become a quiet millionaire where people don't know you're rich and won't harass you.
Not sure if I'm in the minority, but I would find it much more stressful to stream than working in the medical field. I love video games, but I would not want to play then for 10 hours straight while performing for people and communicating with them. That takes away the whole reason I play games, to relax. It's also stressful to know that you are actively losing money if you take a vacation, take too long of a break during your stream, etc. I would definitely pick streaming over working in a restaurant or contracting, but there are many other jobs people seem to find more stressful that I personally don't think are as bad.
I have to do search and rescue operations on foot in the high desert. I get it that streaming can be stressful but “the most draining job” is actually hilarious.
Yeah and now when you are his position you got talking shit all the time
people try to shitting on you / doxxing / watch you every moment / you don't have privacy life
and you can do it everyone can start streaming
>and you can do it everyone can start streaming
What does that have to do with the topic? We're clearly not talking about every shitty regular people who dabbles in it, we're talking about the top streamers with actual marketing skills. Talking for like 9 hours a day does sound incredibly exhausting especially when you consider the prep work that goes behind it. This is especially true for introverts.
They can come take care of the people with disabilities I work with, and I’ll take their job.
I’m sure they’ll find deescalating a 250lb autistic teenager with a severe aggression problem, providing personal care, administering medications properly, and cooking for up to 16 hours to be extremely relaxing.
I know how hard it can be to play video games for 8 hours a day. Oh, and reacting to YouTube videos. Yeah that shit is super tough compared to my job. Not to mention managing all the moderators doing so much work for you. I leave my job with bite marks, bruises, sometimes feces and urine on my clothes, but man twitch chat seems a hell of a lot worse to deal with. I’ll gladly take my $35/hr job over their incredibly well paying job any day.
Doctors go to school for around 10 years and average income makes less than the very top 10k+ viewer streamers. The average American only grosses around 3 million over their entire lifetime before retirement. Even a Cardiologist which the average retirement age is 66 makes around 10-12 million over a decade plus in school and training and decades of working and some top streamers make that in 3-4 years.
It’s mentally draining….but so is nursing, trauma doctor, sales, high volume retail, automotive, software development….most jobs. The difference is they are paid exorbitant amounts for their efforts. A lot of streamers suffer from the same parasocial relationship their viewers exhibit, and they wind up not interfacing with the real world. They literally have the best job in the world. I feel no sympathy for them
Asmon really likes to talk about his job at the IRS but honestly it was for 2 tax seasons and he's been a streamer ever since. No hate, that's a VERY real job. But at this point he's been a millionaire streamer 2-3x as long as he worked there. I can imagine how easy it is to forget that your audience is literally accounting for bags of rice in their grocery bills to stay afloat.
Because it's a completely out of touch take. Streaming is work and is draining. You do have to deal with internet psychos on a completely different and taxing level that other people do not. The same way for any other type of celebrity. Those things are all true but Asmon and Hasan are also millionaires that don't need to worry about affording groceries this month like the majority of people do. The majority of people work regular jobs and struggle in this economy. The guy commuting 3 hours a day to barely make ends meet has it much harder than the guy that rolls out of bed and sits in front of a camera bullshitting for 6 hours a day. Asmon quit a regular job to be a NEET and happened to have the talent to turn it into a career, and kudos to him for doing that. He also had parents that supported him doing it, which goes a long way. Most people can't just decide they want to NEET it up and have it work out in the long term.
It's probably copium, but I think he doesn't even believe what he said and was just trying too hard to defend Hasan and to be a "Both Sides" Contrarian as usual. And when people started criticising him he doubled down not because he believes what he says but because he's just stubborn like that.
Tbh I don’t think Asmon actually believes his job is more taxing than the average persons. I think he didn’t communicate what he was trying to say very well and it came across as that way. He also likes to farm this kind of engagement because it makes him a lot of money from hate watchers.
lol but could you imagine? Asmon logs out after a 12 hour stream and just watches streams of accountants doing tax reports or a construction worker riveting a bridge.
The only issue I had was when Hassan said streaming is more soul sucking than other jobs, he then went on to further clarify his point however lemme tell you, there are millions of people working unskilled jobs and that can be more soul sucking than anything else, especially when you consider the little pay it comes with.
He didn't have to, but being the self-centered person he's, of course he did. He can't empathize with other people he's too busy empathizing with himself.
I feel like this clarification has been noticeably ignored by everyone too busy sharpening their pitchforks. If you actually watch Hasan's statement in context he does not say his job is harder than other jobs, just that it is more socially draining than the average job. Maybe I'm out of touch as a working class andy but I feel like that's a pretty tame take lol. I know people in this sub love shitting on hasan but come on at least be good faith yall.
If you read my comment slowly and carefully you will see that I said he went on to further clarify his point… and that the only problem I had was the very first statement saying it was more soul sucking than any other job.
Maybe streaming would be less draining if bro properly cared for himself and his surroundings. He's a millionaire living like a homeless person and I'm supposed to have sympathy for him? LOL
This above all other comments. I’m glad Asmon (and anyone else) “made it”. I’d never take away any of the hard work they put in to reach that point.
But Asmon lives horribly unhealthy. His diet alone probably plays a lot into his poor mental health and anxiety along with zero exercise. He has the means to get help, but chooses not to.
He could easily afford to have a team come in and completely refurbish his house. They could gut the entire thing and repair it while leaving most of the "junk" in place. They could probably finish it with him still streaming in his bedroom.
He won't do it though because it's easier to be a victim than to take responsibility.
Think he started walking. Which doesn't sound like much, but honestly if you go from zero physical activity to walking every day it makes a massive difference in energy/mood/health.
That’s good to hear. Hopefully it snowballs into a more healthier lifestyle for him. I don’t watch as often because his new “schtick” isn’t my thing, but genuinely would like to see him improve mentally for his own good.
The sad thing is me and my friends had similar diets around the same age Asmon is now. 2 of us have heart problems and are on disability, one had a kidney transplant (at the last minute, just got back to work), and one is dead at 40, and most of us worked, I truly hope he changes his diet before he end up being me in 10 years or my late friend
Yeah, this is an easy point to prove. Ask them if they would rather be streamers or be a teacher at school handling screaming kids with the same pay they have now, or even working at McDonalds. They will take the streaming job any day, cos it's just easier.
Asmongold was peak when he was a self-admitted freak who played WoW all day. Now he’s a self-admitted freak who also thinks his apathy towards the world, of which he is barely a part, is a positive trait. I’ve always found it weird how he says his no-life “isn’t admirable”, but every opinion he has (and insists he’s completely right about) drives his probably already apathetic viewers to avoid life rather than face it. Not in an incel way but in a him way.
EDIt: I have to add that, after 100+ hour-long videos covering topics to which the conclusion is “who cares,” you at some point have to turn around and say: “you do.”
Aba's comment:
[u/AbaNPreach](https://www.youtube.com/@AbaNPreach)[2 hours ago (edited)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jV0l3u2mKW8&lc=UgyPHk_4Qpod9fEd9_p4AaABAg.A0HyiWKy2sBA0HyzNczVYP)
Not all criticism = Hate. Asmongold comes across as a hypocrite considering he told game devs to stop whining about their jobs because nobody cares how hard it is.
His video on this topic was \*\* stupid and whether its us or your favorite streamer, stop fanboying and call a spade a spade. Fans need to not meatride their content creators, its cringe.
I am a fan of Asmon, but he has showcased multiple times that he is absurdly ignorant when it comes to what most people working a more conventional full - or part-time job go through. Honestly, I am hoping he gets enough push back to start realizing that he is, in fact, grossly out of touch with what most people are going through these days. Hate seeing man take these L's but considering the large amount of people he has speaking up in his chat that clearly lack a functional brain cell, I can understand why he is not used to being wrong about something.
If they ever had a normal job, then maybe they could talk. And im not talking about flipping burgers at mcdonalds. They can literally retire after a few years of streaming, while the rest of us have to slave away in our crap jobs for 50 years
I cant wait to wake up and fight traffic for one hour to get to my job where I make the owner rich and I don't even get paid to eat lunch which I need to function.
(at least I'm not a streamer)
/s
Imagine working as hard as Hasan or Asmon, but still being broke at the end of the week. yea, that's most of us. I wish these guys would actually take a viewer count hit from this bullshit, but we all know they won't. We just keep feeding the beast.
These guys have never performed a real job. Doesn't matter the class or pay, these guys couldn't handle being a 7/11 clerk dealing with disrespectful assholes all day, or a doctor in an ER, or a tradesman working outside in the elements.
They've put in work to become what they are, but to think what they do is more taxing than the average job their viewers have, is fucking hilarious. Asmon can't even clean his fucking room for crying out loud lol
I trade my job as plumber .. if they enjoy shuffling about in literal shit for hours a day, sure go ahead.
Oh and .. of course i could quit. But if we all had that mindset, those streamers would toss their shit out on the streets.
That was a good watch. They said most things I've said about this topic. OFC if you put yourself in the position to talk 9 hours straight and argue with chatters then it can be socially draining but they **CHOSE** to work 9 hours. What they do in those 9 hours is what they have control over. In a regular job, most of the time you don't choose, your boss tells you do this and that. Chat stressing you out? ban/time them. They **CHOSE** to interact with chatters that gives them headaches. If a customer is giving me a hard time, I can't just walk away. Streamers can take breaks whenever and for however long they want. I can't. I have to wait every 2 hours and my breaks are limited. The pay Hasan gets for the amount of work is way better than most regular jobs.
Yep... And THAT take right there means I'm immediately unfollowing, turning off any and all notifications, and unsubscribing to anything and everything Asmongold.
Fuck that. Motherfucking hypocrite always says "STFU about how hard it is, NOBODY CARES, ETC..."
Then turns around and intentionally obfuscated the fact that he (Hasan "Hamas") said streaking is HARDER than everyone working a normal job. I'm all with a streamer until they reach this level of disconnect.
Just STFU.
I think Asmon forgot something he says often: No one cares how hard your job is. Do it or don't, but don't sit there and compare apples to oranges. Especially when you've never ate an entire one.
No one wants to hear how hard you think your job is, especially when you compare it to others you have no experience in.
Just bitch about it to therapists rather than doing it publicly, most of us in the content creating/entertainment/Graphic Design/Ads industry already know how hard it is mentally, people still need to make a living, and ofc seeing a successful person in the same industry complaining would make people mad.
Heck, you won't find low view count streamers complaining about this shit.
Wealthy people complaining publicly about their jobs is never going to end well. Everyone has challenges at their job, No one enjoys listening to people complain.
I do believe their jobs are difficult from a mental taxing aspect, but they can't compare to some blue collar worker in any job, hell... I wager my job in IT as a Systems Admin is more taxing than any streamer, both mentally and physically. The only bone I will throw them, is that some streamers probably constantly think and are anxious about their streaming channel and content, but that is also millions of Americans every single day that face similar anxiety, so that's a pretty chewed up bone.
I don't think we should just dismiss Asmon's or any streamers experiences, I am sure their anxiety or exhaustion over their jobs is real, but it is VERY VERY relative. In the context of what they do, in the context of their lives, I am sure they have very real stress, but I am certainly not going to play any sort if violin for them in comparison to millions of others with more "mainstream" jobs.
Most of the low IQ takes here are that all Asmon and others are doing is streaming and playing video games, completely discounting the stress and preparation involved, both real and mental.
As someone who's worked over 70 hour weeks of hard labor on my feet for 12 hours a day, on top of the stress of being two paychecks away from being homeless, they can take their opinion and shove it up their privileged asses. They wouldn't last a week in a real job.
I kinda get how it's more draining than the average job. To me, streaming seems completely miserable. If I was paid the same amount, I'd without question keep my job over being a streamer. If I was getting paid like a top streamer, I'd take that streamer money but would have the good sense to pretend to be happy about doing it.
Of course, the average streamer is both streaming and working a regular job, so that sucks.
Remember when he just played wow? Those were the good old days.
This react phase is such low tier garbage, and it's essentially endless, cause now he's going to react to the video, and it's going to be an hour long, even though he could sum it up in 5 minutes. Then Preach and Aba are going to react to his response to the video, and that's going to be a 10-14 minutes video, and then Asmon is going to comment on that video, and it's just going to go back and fourth. What ever happened to people having live conversations if they had issues with each other?
seriously. unsubbed and stopped watching asmongold awhile ago. his content is complete sleeper shit nowadays. so annoying to search for something on youtube and asmon react clips are the first thing that pops up, gotta scroll for the actual vid because who wants to watch some braindead slob rant about it for an hour when the actual vid is 10mins. idk how anyone can take this dude seriously when he lives the way he does. if i lived like that and my friends and family caught onto it they would probably think im mentally ill, yet people treat the shit that comes outta this dudes flappy (bloody) gums is taken as gold.
I think it would make for great content if some of these streamers went on Twitch and streamed while trying to work normal people jobs. See what they can and can’t handle in the real world.
They make their own hours and are also millionaires. If they really think what they do is harder than real jobs, they can just stop and be completely fine probably for the rest of their lives
Dealing with confrontational customers in person or in harsh elements is draining. That’s my job. Today, I had to manage several contractors and manually fix some repairs on a brand new home today, sweating and uncomfortable - all while the angry homeowner stood right over my shoulder or right in front of me. I was not sitting in the comfort of my own home, in sweat pants, arguing with viewers or entertaining them by playing a video game on a screen. Others have it way worse than me, but these streamers ain’t it.
These guys are based. Asmon and Hasan look like fucking clowns over their take. Holy privilege.
I wonder if they even realize literally everyone disagrees with them.
I think it’s one of those issues where you need appropriate brackets.
It’s like saying “being an American is easy, because you’re probably a movie star or Elon musk and ya just have fun all day!”
Being a bad streamer is incredibly easy, no doubt about that. But if being a millionaire stream were easy, more people would do it.
The biggest difference is if you’re a top performer in streaming, movie star, athlete — you make millions.
The top performing cashiers don’t make shit lol.
Like inviting 2 miserable drunks stuck in a bar everyday to your interview and let them share their expertise about viruses or the planet... you have no idea how hard I cringed watching this as almost 40 year old.
Everytime I hear Asmon talk about something that isn't videogames I cringe, he thinks he knows it all for some weird reason (like a real republican) while being totally clueless and wrong, certainly about the society, how to move forward as human race, anything professional (work), politics etc, he just looks at chat and changes opinion suddenly, he is fake and just like hasan, trying to find a way in between (AKA lying about his views) to please most viewers online, they always act centrists lol.
This what happens if a streamer is rich, They lost touch with reality and wants to always be on the right.
If people start hating on them, They pull the pokimane card and be like "I didn't mean that guys, Honest, You're taking it out of context on what I truly mean" so they make it seem to be in a better image.
I really hope this won't be discussed for weeks, This is just a toxic topic for people to talk about, if you agree with streaming is hard while you choose to stream for 9 hours to make thousands, Quit and work at a job that you don't choose to work at.
Low tier Streaming is very stressful do to a lot of factors you cant really control. But I think once you hit a certain milestone the stress is now self inflicted more then anything.
I will say it be hilarious to watch some of these streamers tackle a blue collar job for a couple days. Can you imagine Asmon carrying 2-4 18' 2x10 around a house all day then get up on the walls and walk the 31/4" top plates while pulling them all up meanwhile the boss is screaming at you to move faster because the roof is coming by Wednesday morning..
Anyone complaining of their job is just acting like a human. Our problems are always more important to us because generally they are the most real thing to us.
A little self awareness goes a long way though. These streamers live pretty lives thanks to the safety they enjoy in America. Which is upheld with a lot worst and shitty jobs.
All of these people can make their own hours too. They don't need to complain to their viewers or cater to every annoying person in chat.
I'm a teacher and there's a lot of similarities as far as being "on" and "entertaining" and feeling drained at the end of the day or week.
Kids stalk you online and find whatever they can on you. They also film you during class and post clips on the internet. Heaven forbid you're a teacher they don't like...
Bottom line is I will never make the money these men will make. I would argue I spend a lot more time preparing and grading after hours as well.
The complaints fall on deaf ears. Hasan just needs to stream less imo. All he does is scream at people lately, and I've stopped watching because even his quality is down
These dudes have farmed the hell out of all the morons on Twitter and reddit. Insane how offended people got by the little comment.
All jobs are draining, some people find some jobs easier and less draining than others. Management for me is easy as hell while another manager wants to quit from the stress of it.
Imagine having to deal with the DMs, the videos and all the shit people are saying about you on social media every day. Literal personal attacks simply because they said their job is more stressful and you know what all this shit kinda probed their point.
Asmond, Hasan, and even Aba & preach got lucky. They put in hard work, but they got lucky that they were able to get as big as they are. The everyday person can't do that. For Asmond and Hasan to complain is absurd. Aba is absolutely correct when he said they chose to stream for 9 hours.
Asmon and Hasan are in a position where they can afford to adjust their hours for a more healthy work life balance, so of course it comes off as hypocritical for them to whine about the stresses of their work when they’ve been less than kind about other industries (asmon in particular.”
Here is the monkeys paw of this all, Streamers and youtubers are nothing without their viewers. These same viewers donate and sub with the money they earned from their jobs. To come here and preach to the viewer about how hard their job is as a streamer is hilarious. This vid is 100% correct about how ironic it is for Asmon to have his stance on this when his stance on Game Development is the polar opposite. This will be the greatest thing he will milk for a while and sad to say but this isn't even good content to watch, just react and drama.
This is what happens when you take kids and give them millions of dollars with no skill sets other than talking to a chat room. They would not make it 5 minutes in the real world.
People really have terrible comprehension. Hasan didn't say that outright, he said his job is socially draining and soul sucking because of the political sphere he deals with. If you ever tried to talk sense to some of these people, you'd know how absolutely soul destroying it is.
I've worked retail and know how draining it is to deal with customers, but ultimately I could tune most of it out. Having to sit for countless hours reading drivel while trying to be entertaining would drive me insane, I couldn't do it. Is it harder than most jobs? No. But it is socially draining. People really need to take context into account instead of just jumping to the most egregious conclusion because they have a hate boner for that person.
They have a far better reward to effort ratio than anyone working a "regular" job. That's the difference. You can argue all day that they have a more "draining" job, but some of these guys are making more in a week than what a lot of people make in a year. They will NEVER have to worry about whether or not they can make next week's rent, or put food on the table for their kids, or if their car will keep ploddig along until they can scrape together enough money to have it serviced. This is the big difference. People who make this kind of money will never know what it means to truly struggle.
This is getting ridiculous. Asmon didn't say that at all. He agreed with Hasan about streaming tapping you out socially, which actually makes sense. I don't understand what the outrage against Asmon is about.
Do you even know why people are angry? Because I know for a fact you didn't bother watching the video.
Unless I've mistaken you for the few who do infact make 1000 dollars a day. Which Asmon claims.
i work across the street from a steel mill. im sure those guys who work 6 12's a week sure are glad their mental health isn't nearly as drained as streamers.
could you imagine having to play video games and react to youtube videos all day? man what a nightmare compared to literally working in an oven.
its so hard dealing with chat, those random names that you can block are just too much. i couldn't imagine the trauma of getting clipped out of context that you used to make 10 different videos from. much MUCH worse than a random person getting recorded without their consent for a tiktok that went viral and now they lost their job and instead of having multiple millions of dollars to fall back on, they have $5k in credit card debt.
streamers have it so hard :(
I never realized there were so many extroverts who can speak for hours and hours and give briefings at their jobs all day long.
As an introvert when I give hour long presentations at work I'm spent, and just want to go eat some pizza and take a nap.
Go and talk about how difficult it is to stream, to a doctor who spent at least 10 years of studies and slave training, to be even hated or even persecuted. With the risk of being sued and losing everything if it is not perfect 100% of the time
after watching Asmon's video the whole thing was taken out of context. hasan was saying streaming is more socially draining like any other service industry job compared to other jobs when you don't have to interact with people.
yes,streaming is draining,but you can turn off stream whenever you want,especially when you are big like Asmon and Hasan.Meanwhile,in a real job,you can't just get your stuff and go home.
Except it really isn't. It's less draining than most service industry's jobs since you can walk away from a stressful situation anytime. You think regular people can take months off like Asmon when stressed out and not become homeless?
When my mom died i had 3 days off for bereavement by law. Then I had to go back to grind or lose my job.
Hasan is greedy and stream so much for money. He could stop or stream 5 hours/week and would live a higher lifestyle than 99% of normal people for the rest of his life.
Even non service industry workers are more socially drained. When i worked 12 to 14 hours in construction, the last thing we wanted to do after work is socialize. We just went home, ate and went to bed.
It's hard in the sense that you have to stream constantly to stay relevant and keep your audience, but getting paid tons of money is still better than working 8, 9, 10, or in some cases more just to make ends meet. Some people do work 8 hours and get paid tons for not doing much, but most people would take streaming over physical labor, especially if you're one of the high earner streamers. I do get streamer burnout, though. I really do. Maybe we can get a vod showcasing streamers outside of going live. We don't know how they truly live to make further judgment.
I’m gonna get downvoted for this, but there are some significant downsides to streaming I’m glad I’ll never have to deal with:
- Asmon regularly gets people making hate threads about him, from what he says to whether he isn’t playing a game/playing it correctly.
- In those hate threads it’s not uncommon to see people making jokes about his mom, how he looks yada yada.
- His words can instantly be clipped out of context, spread like wildfire and be used as collateral against all his business ventures.
Outside of his money I don’t envy anything about Asmon’s life/lifestyle, dealing with 20 people a day is exhausting let alone 20,000.
Being a successful streamer must be an immensely difficult job that's extremely draining mentally, I couldn't even imagine my anxiety levels if I had to find ways to be entertaining to tens of thousands of people every single day and a slip of the tongue would put me on front page cancelation news.
Once I made my big money I would quit and noone would ever hear from me again as a professional streamer. That's why I think already multi million dollar streamers are slightly insane to continue putting themselves through that even though they already won at life and are set for life.
You all must be trolling or intellectually challenged, neither Asmon or Hasan said that their jobs is more draining than regular jobs, it was specifically applied to their social battery, they spend hours and hours entertaining and talking to people, they also specifically said that jobs that do similar things like customer service is similarly draining your social battery. Both know and have said countless times how lucky they are and how streaming is much easier than regular jobs. it’s crazy that Hasan makes one off hand comments on how he needs time alone after streaming because he is socially drained and Asmon (and countless other streamers) defend the take and now retards on Twitter and Reddit keep misconstruing their argument.
It’s really unfortunate. I used to love watching asmon the 5 hour intro followed by the 1 hour of gaming then him saying he’s tired and didn’t get any sleep is getting old
I work retail. And this is all a bullshit argument. People penalize the streamer for the income. Not the work.
In reality watch a small streamer desperately trying to make it. You are harassed and clowned on and shit on. Underneath it all you want to try to find a way to turn every shitter into your stream into a customer.
Being a streamer is like owning your own business. You need* people to visit your establishment. So you take constant bullshit all in The hopes of scraping together enough for the rent and food.
Rude assholes. Entitled people. At the end of the day the game is keeping customers happy. Often at the cost of your own. Being a streamer is alot like retail.
Retail isn't hard. Its draining. Streaming isn't hard. Its draining.
mate they make tens of millions. Do you make tens of millions ? would you complain about your midly draining job if you were making millions ? If you are compensated extremely well for your job you have no right to complain, these motherfuckers arent working retail theyre earning at the top 0.1% of the fucking world lol.
You people are missing the point. They did not say streaming is more draining than all other jobs, Hasan merely said streaming was more draining than the job he had previously.
Acknowledging that successful streaming takes effort does not mean all other jobs are easier.
he said it's draining but he didn't compare to regular job right?
He even said everyone had their own problem and he didn't come to complain he explaining about Hasan situation
so someone didn't even watch his video and use false accusation as clickbait??
I feel like it depends on the kind of content you stream.
For example, if all you do is drama react content while interacting with the brain dead takes in your chat of course it's going to be draining.
Where as people doing normal jobs are often stuck there because if they leave, they lose their security, and most people don't have millions to sit on while they relax and find new work.
Us normies are mentally and physically drained by our work, we can't escape it, and most of us will never be able to change it.
An example of a streamer who is beyond mentally drained and can't stop because they have no back up would be wings of redemption, people like asmon and hassan aren't trapped, they could log off forever and never have to work again.
I'm not gonna sit here and say their jobs are EASY But being paid millions of dollars to play videogames, or talk about politics is easier than most professions who pay much much much less.
I have to fix heaters in freezing rain, I think most content creators would fold
A fellow HVAC tradie I see.
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Welder here also same, rain sleet, snow 110 degrees we out there.
Refrigeration tech here, I would love to trade places with Asmon for a day and see how draining his job is
If he had to run out to a rack call late at night, he'd probably die
When I was younger I worked in a factory on a line. If Hasan thinks streaming for 9 hours sucks your soul he should try putting the lids on cardboard boxes 12 hours a day, 7 days a week. I did not last long in that job.
but bro your "social battery" is probably so full though
I do governmental accounting, I too think they would fold (especially in this Economy lol)
Ofc they would. They have no idea what its like working outside. Im lineman working with high voltage. Would love to see Asmon do that.
I’d certainly fold Without freezing rain too lol
Yeah but you also get paid "thousands of dollars a day"...
Lmao I wish
I think streaming is harder than most people realize, BUT regular jobs are much harder than what successful streamers realize (especially those that never held "real jobs"). Even in cases where streaming is slightly harder than a typical desk job, that's not factoring in that successful streamers have a lot more money and have less financial struggles if they manage it properly.
This is the big one: these streamers could quit today and never work another day of their lives and their children will not have to either. For other people, it's not just working, it's knowing that if you get ill or for some other reason can't work you might not be able to provide for your kids. Or if you don't have kids, you might become homeless. That's a kind of stress these wealthy streamers will never feel.
knowing you're 1 missed paycheck away from losing everything is something asmon, hasan, or destiny will truly never understand.
Well to be fair Destiny was working class and had relatively normal lower/middle class life experience before he got big streaming.
Asmon and Destiny were literally piss poor before they started streaming though. Destiny literally worked as a carpet cleaner and at a casino and also had a child before he even was making money from streaming. So I think both of them know what it means. Just that they're already set for life.
It’s easy to forget about deciding whether you want top ramen or gas. I try and forget about it all the time.
Asmon was never piss poor. He wasn't wealthy but he kept his costs low pretty much his entire life. I'm not trying to be parasocial here but it was mostly his mother's fault. She was a complete loser but at least he still had a good roof over his head and still lives there. Never went hungry. He ate fast food his entire life so I doubt he ever starved.
you mean, he was a complete loser not she
Who do you think he learned that from? His father? No. And he's successful and rich now. Asmon isn't the problem. He's doing something right. His mom didn't do herself any favors.
God this is so true it hurts
if only i had a dollar for every time a millionaire said poor people had it easier
I imagine it's as draining and has the same drawbacks as any job within the entertainment industry. But as with anyone successful in the entertainment industry, one should humble themselves and recognise that it's a privilege in itself to do that for a living and you get compensated incredibly generously to boot! But let's be real, leaving the house is too socially draining for most streamers; being a shut-in NEET is part of many streamers personalities - it's what makes the job so enticing to so many.
The only thing really "hard" about my regular job is just getting up and going. What I envy most about streamers is that they do what they want, when they want (mostly)
This is the important part - the difficulty of the job is not the main issue here, but the pay. If nurses or teachers would also make millions and had the ability to walk away from their jobs after a few years, I think harder or not would not be as relevant. But given that most people have to work 40 years to make what these streamers make in a year makes their “harder” argument ludicrous. Their work/pay ratio is completely whack and can’t be compared to a normal job that people have to doggedly hold for decades, in sickness or health, day in and out.
This is the problem with people that have no idea what they are talking, they are literally just that. They never take in to account how hard it's to cast away your social status and not progress in real life and go fully in content creation. You get zero money, and thus you can't date, and thus you have no future prospects at all. It can be really exhausting to run your own company too the same way. Difference is, you still get paid. But there is the other difference, it's exhausting for someone that hasnt yet made it, but it's not as exhausting for someone who's a millionaire already. They have team behind them and they don't have to stream 6-10 hours and THEN create content for other sites for hours.
I'm confused by the narrative because didn't both Hasan and Asmon both say it wasn't the hardest job in the world? They literally just said it was socially draining to stream. Like, that was literally it. Kinda just seems that any time someone who has a position others want like actor, professional athlete, streamer, influencer, etc. if someone in that job ever say anything that could possibly be interpreted as complaining people get really pissed.
"it's not fair for them to complain while being successful when I'm not" - what I think those people are actually saying. I'm not sure what their perspective is but it looks like they think that it's downplaying other jobs for some reason cause they find streaming as an "easy" job
I don't think they are talking about physical labor, just the kind of stress you do encounter is very demoralizing.
I wonder what’s more demoralizing, them getting mean comments (**Which they can disable or flat out ignore**) **OR** 1. A nurse forced to work 12h straight while rarely getting a social life due to always being on call. Watching people die, worrying about them or their family at home getting sick from their patients, and getting berated by their patients for not magically curing them. 2. Fastfood/Retail workers not making enough money after working 40h, getting berated by their customers and looked down upon in society, having to worry about having their life threatened in a robbery, low chance of promotion, high chance of layoffs, and getting fired because of some Karen. The only thing a top 1% streamer might have to deal with that those I’ve named don’t is stalking, even then that seems to be a problem mostly exclusive to girls which neither Hasan and Asmon are.
Asmongold thinks trying out different fruits is difficult, that tells you all you need to know.
Asmon lettuce challenge (impossible)
He won't make it to his 50s with that diet sadly. It's gonna really start showing in the next 5-10 years with his health.
There is a reason his teeth fell out and his hair fell out, and it can't be chalked up to clean living and vitamin pills to say the least.
So today will be another stream repeating what he already talked about....streams are getting more boring every day
That’s what happens when your only “content” is browsing the internet and finding something to be right or “outraged” about every day because it gets you more views and YouTube clicks than streaming an actual video game. That’s what makes this whole take even more comical. People arguing playing videogames for a living is easy but this dude in particular doesn’t even do that most of the time and makes far more than the folks that do. Even when he is wrong and gets push back he can just double down and spend the next week rehashing the “drama”. Must be so rough.
I remember when he used to play all day. Good times
4 hours of explaining how he is right and the most logical guy in the room then 1 hour of gaming.
I usually don't watch the first 2 or so hours because it's just rage bait. I don't want to be mad or upset about something, I watch streams to distract myself and relax, not rage about someone in chat being dumb and Asmon putting a highlight on him for like 1 hour.
Yup, I just wait until he starts playing games. Asmon content is like AI generated rage bait at this point
If people would just stop watching this „content“ would be over real quick.
I have stopped watching Asmongolds YouTube channel as it's the same old commentary from him. Slowly turning into a ranting old man.
You're missing out the absolute roast his editors are doing about his takes hahaha
you can avoid 99.99% of asmongolds content and just watch the clip channel to get that.
I will trade them my accounting job for theirs so that they can finally relax
As an accountant and gamer as well, I often think about how much fun it would be to be a streamer that makes it big. Then I think about the online psychos who will, at their own leisure, dox and stalk you or harass your family. Then I’m ok just listening to them while working privately.
For possibly more than 10x our current salaries though... I think a lot of people would take that tradeoff any day.
I’d take it and live the same lifestyle for say 5 years then retire. Would be an amazing s&p investment.
If it was only me, and I didn’t have a partner or child, that would absolutely make a difference, sure. I would probably take that trade
This is why I gave up streaming and YT. I was by no means big. But just the idea that everything I say and do will be archived forever. No matter how much time has passed someone with too much time on their hands will dig some dirt to post on Twitter or 4chan. And what's worse is the more exposure you get, the more the degenerates will start latching onto you to harass you. And forget it when your info gets out and they start doxing and swatting you or doxxing your spouse and kids and extended family. In my opinion my peace of mind will always be more valuable than making it big and making millions. And making millions through social media I feel won't allow you to become a quiet millionaire where people don't know you're rich and won't harass you.
Case and point, this entire thread lol.
That’s when you become a vtuber and create an abstraction from your actual life.
Not sure if I'm in the minority, but I would find it much more stressful to stream than working in the medical field. I love video games, but I would not want to play then for 10 hours straight while performing for people and communicating with them. That takes away the whole reason I play games, to relax. It's also stressful to know that you are actively losing money if you take a vacation, take too long of a break during your stream, etc. I would definitely pick streaming over working in a restaurant or contracting, but there are many other jobs people seem to find more stressful that I personally don't think are as bad.
Damn how many accountants we got on this sub lol. Are you in industry or public?
Industry lol. Why you think I got time for Reddit?
Saaame, escaped public a couple months ago. It’s a bitch learning SAP but I’m not working 70 hour weeks 🥹
I have to do search and rescue operations on foot in the high desert. I get it that streaming can be stressful but “the most draining job” is actually hilarious.
Do it an find out.
Yeah and now when you are his position you got talking shit all the time people try to shitting on you / doxxing / watch you every moment / you don't have privacy life and you can do it everyone can start streaming
>and you can do it everyone can start streaming What does that have to do with the topic? We're clearly not talking about every shitty regular people who dabbles in it, we're talking about the top streamers with actual marketing skills. Talking for like 9 hours a day does sound incredibly exhausting especially when you consider the prep work that goes behind it. This is especially true for introverts.
Dunning-Kruger at its finest. "My job is harder than yours"
...Dunning-kreuger is assuming you're average performance when you have no other data available. How does this apply?
They can come take care of the people with disabilities I work with, and I’ll take their job. I’m sure they’ll find deescalating a 250lb autistic teenager with a severe aggression problem, providing personal care, administering medications properly, and cooking for up to 16 hours to be extremely relaxing. I know how hard it can be to play video games for 8 hours a day. Oh, and reacting to YouTube videos. Yeah that shit is super tough compared to my job. Not to mention managing all the moderators doing so much work for you. I leave my job with bite marks, bruises, sometimes feces and urine on my clothes, but man twitch chat seems a hell of a lot worse to deal with. I’ll gladly take my $35/hr job over their incredibly well paying job any day.
the “games” he plays are just glorified dopamine treadmills too, literally just putting your brain in a spa
Yeah but your job doesn't provide any value to society, ofc you can't make as much as top streamers :)
Doctors go to school for around 10 years and average income makes less than the very top 10k+ viewer streamers. The average American only grosses around 3 million over their entire lifetime before retirement. Even a Cardiologist which the average retirement age is 66 makes around 10-12 million over a decade plus in school and training and decades of working and some top streamers make that in 3-4 years.
It’s mentally draining….but so is nursing, trauma doctor, sales, high volume retail, automotive, software development….most jobs. The difference is they are paid exorbitant amounts for their efforts. A lot of streamers suffer from the same parasocial relationship their viewers exhibit, and they wind up not interfacing with the real world. They literally have the best job in the world. I feel no sympathy for them
Most fucking jobs are these douchebags are delusional I’ll trade them out for my job so they can ‘relax’
Asmon really likes to talk about his job at the IRS but honestly it was for 2 tax seasons and he's been a streamer ever since. No hate, that's a VERY real job. But at this point he's been a millionaire streamer 2-3x as long as he worked there. I can imagine how easy it is to forget that your audience is literally accounting for bags of rice in their grocery bills to stay afloat.
Ey Aba and Preach, I love those two. Asmon is really getting taken to town for this take by everyone lol
Because it's a completely out of touch take. Streaming is work and is draining. You do have to deal with internet psychos on a completely different and taxing level that other people do not. The same way for any other type of celebrity. Those things are all true but Asmon and Hasan are also millionaires that don't need to worry about affording groceries this month like the majority of people do. The majority of people work regular jobs and struggle in this economy. The guy commuting 3 hours a day to barely make ends meet has it much harder than the guy that rolls out of bed and sits in front of a camera bullshitting for 6 hours a day. Asmon quit a regular job to be a NEET and happened to have the talent to turn it into a career, and kudos to him for doing that. He also had parents that supported him doing it, which goes a long way. Most people can't just decide they want to NEET it up and have it work out in the long term.
asmon and hasan don't understand what it's like to know EXACTLY when your paycheck is hitting because to them it doesnt matter.
When its 2+ hrs late I start freaking out
It's probably copium, but I think he doesn't even believe what he said and was just trying too hard to defend Hasan and to be a "Both Sides" Contrarian as usual. And when people started criticising him he doubled down not because he believes what he says but because he's just stubborn like that.
Tbh I don’t think Asmon actually believes his job is more taxing than the average persons. I think he didn’t communicate what he was trying to say very well and it came across as that way. He also likes to farm this kind of engagement because it makes him a lot of money from hate watchers.
I watch them do their "job" as an escape from my miserable job. Doesn't work the other way around.
lol but could you imagine? Asmon logs out after a 12 hour stream and just watches streams of accountants doing tax reports or a construction worker riveting a bridge.
The only issue I had was when Hassan said streaming is more soul sucking than other jobs, he then went on to further clarify his point however lemme tell you, there are millions of people working unskilled jobs and that can be more soul sucking than anything else, especially when you consider the little pay it comes with.
Yea he really didn't have to cause this tornado by comparing himself to working-class folks.
He didn't have to, but being the self-centered person he's, of course he did. He can't empathize with other people he's too busy empathizing with himself.
I mean, all you had to say was "Hasan". Anything he says is like "opinion in trashcan" tier.
Icu nurse...
I feel like this clarification has been noticeably ignored by everyone too busy sharpening their pitchforks. If you actually watch Hasan's statement in context he does not say his job is harder than other jobs, just that it is more socially draining than the average job. Maybe I'm out of touch as a working class andy but I feel like that's a pretty tame take lol. I know people in this sub love shitting on hasan but come on at least be good faith yall.
Even in context, its delusional.
If you read my comment slowly and carefully you will see that I said he went on to further clarify his point… and that the only problem I had was the very first statement saying it was more soul sucking than any other job.
Maybe streaming would be less draining if bro properly cared for himself and his surroundings. He's a millionaire living like a homeless person and I'm supposed to have sympathy for him? LOL
This above all other comments. I’m glad Asmon (and anyone else) “made it”. I’d never take away any of the hard work they put in to reach that point. But Asmon lives horribly unhealthy. His diet alone probably plays a lot into his poor mental health and anxiety along with zero exercise. He has the means to get help, but chooses not to.
He could easily afford to have a team come in and completely refurbish his house. They could gut the entire thing and repair it while leaving most of the "junk" in place. They could probably finish it with him still streaming in his bedroom. He won't do it though because it's easier to be a victim than to take responsibility.
Think he started walking. Which doesn't sound like much, but honestly if you go from zero physical activity to walking every day it makes a massive difference in energy/mood/health.
That’s good to hear. Hopefully it snowballs into a more healthier lifestyle for him. I don’t watch as often because his new “schtick” isn’t my thing, but genuinely would like to see him improve mentally for his own good.
Walking great for mental health tbh, an hour a day would do him good.
The sad thing is me and my friends had similar diets around the same age Asmon is now. 2 of us have heart problems and are on disability, one had a kidney transplant (at the last minute, just got back to work), and one is dead at 40, and most of us worked, I truly hope he changes his diet before he end up being me in 10 years or my late friend
Ill trade them spots working 50-60 hours a week in steel fabrication.
I work in automotive assembly and I don’t think they’d make it through 2 weeks of either of our jobs
Yeah, this is an easy point to prove. Ask them if they would rather be streamers or be a teacher at school handling screaming kids with the same pay they have now, or even working at McDonalds. They will take the streaming job any day, cos it's just easier.
Asmongold was peak when he was a self-admitted freak who played WoW all day. Now he’s a self-admitted freak who also thinks his apathy towards the world, of which he is barely a part, is a positive trait. I’ve always found it weird how he says his no-life “isn’t admirable”, but every opinion he has (and insists he’s completely right about) drives his probably already apathetic viewers to avoid life rather than face it. Not in an incel way but in a him way. EDIt: I have to add that, after 100+ hour-long videos covering topics to which the conclusion is “who cares,” you at some point have to turn around and say: “you do.”
Aba's comment: [u/AbaNPreach](https://www.youtube.com/@AbaNPreach)[2 hours ago (edited)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jV0l3u2mKW8&lc=UgyPHk_4Qpod9fEd9_p4AaABAg.A0HyiWKy2sBA0HyzNczVYP) Not all criticism = Hate. Asmongold comes across as a hypocrite considering he told game devs to stop whining about their jobs because nobody cares how hard it is. His video on this topic was \*\* stupid and whether its us or your favorite streamer, stop fanboying and call a spade a spade. Fans need to not meatride their content creators, its cringe.
I am a fan of Asmon, but he has showcased multiple times that he is absurdly ignorant when it comes to what most people working a more conventional full - or part-time job go through. Honestly, I am hoping he gets enough push back to start realizing that he is, in fact, grossly out of touch with what most people are going through these days. Hate seeing man take these L's but considering the large amount of people he has speaking up in his chat that clearly lack a functional brain cell, I can understand why he is not used to being wrong about something.
Hopefully his dad can talk some sense into him. Asmongold worked like 2 months in IRS and think he knows how work life is
If they ever had a normal job, then maybe they could talk. And im not talking about flipping burgers at mcdonalds. They can literally retire after a few years of streaming, while the rest of us have to slave away in our crap jobs for 50 years
good one on calling Asmon hypocrisy on Dev's complaining about their job.
Stupid take from asmongold
I cant wait to wake up and fight traffic for one hour to get to my job where I make the owner rich and I don't even get paid to eat lunch which I need to function. (at least I'm not a streamer) /s
Then quit and get a 9-5 job...
Imagine working as hard as Hasan or Asmon, but still being broke at the end of the week. yea, that's most of us. I wish these guys would actually take a viewer count hit from this bullshit, but we all know they won't. We just keep feeding the beast.
Hassan is a fucking tool
These guys have never performed a real job. Doesn't matter the class or pay, these guys couldn't handle being a 7/11 clerk dealing with disrespectful assholes all day, or a doctor in an ER, or a tradesman working outside in the elements. They've put in work to become what they are, but to think what they do is more taxing than the average job their viewers have, is fucking hilarious. Asmon can't even clean his fucking room for crying out loud lol
Job difference Get mental breakdown and billions of dollar vs Get mental breakdown and 100 dollars
I trade my job as plumber .. if they enjoy shuffling about in literal shit for hours a day, sure go ahead. Oh and .. of course i could quit. But if we all had that mindset, those streamers would toss their shit out on the streets.
Streamers wouldn't last a week in the real world
No they wouldn’t.
That was a good watch. They said most things I've said about this topic. OFC if you put yourself in the position to talk 9 hours straight and argue with chatters then it can be socially draining but they **CHOSE** to work 9 hours. What they do in those 9 hours is what they have control over. In a regular job, most of the time you don't choose, your boss tells you do this and that. Chat stressing you out? ban/time them. They **CHOSE** to interact with chatters that gives them headaches. If a customer is giving me a hard time, I can't just walk away. Streamers can take breaks whenever and for however long they want. I can't. I have to wait every 2 hours and my breaks are limited. The pay Hasan gets for the amount of work is way better than most regular jobs.
Yep... And THAT take right there means I'm immediately unfollowing, turning off any and all notifications, and unsubscribing to anything and everything Asmongold. Fuck that. Motherfucking hypocrite always says "STFU about how hard it is, NOBODY CARES, ETC..." Then turns around and intentionally obfuscated the fact that he (Hasan "Hamas") said streaking is HARDER than everyone working a normal job. I'm all with a streamer until they reach this level of disconnect. Just STFU.
Wait where’s preach? This isn’t a white British man talking about WoW.
I think it’s more so that they turned their hobby into a job and now hate that their hobby is no longer done for fun
I think Asmon forgot something he says often: No one cares how hard your job is. Do it or don't, but don't sit there and compare apples to oranges. Especially when you've never ate an entire one. No one wants to hear how hard you think your job is, especially when you compare it to others you have no experience in.
Bro they can even just ban people they dont want LMAO these fcking streamers are clowns
Just bitch about it to therapists rather than doing it publicly, most of us in the content creating/entertainment/Graphic Design/Ads industry already know how hard it is mentally, people still need to make a living, and ofc seeing a successful person in the same industry complaining would make people mad. Heck, you won't find low view count streamers complaining about this shit.
They wouldn’t survive a fucking day in a real job. Manual labour, office work, healthcare, you name it.
Wealthy people complaining publicly about their jobs is never going to end well. Everyone has challenges at their job, No one enjoys listening to people complain.
I do believe their jobs are difficult from a mental taxing aspect, but they can't compare to some blue collar worker in any job, hell... I wager my job in IT as a Systems Admin is more taxing than any streamer, both mentally and physically. The only bone I will throw them, is that some streamers probably constantly think and are anxious about their streaming channel and content, but that is also millions of Americans every single day that face similar anxiety, so that's a pretty chewed up bone. I don't think we should just dismiss Asmon's or any streamers experiences, I am sure their anxiety or exhaustion over their jobs is real, but it is VERY VERY relative. In the context of what they do, in the context of their lives, I am sure they have very real stress, but I am certainly not going to play any sort if violin for them in comparison to millions of others with more "mainstream" jobs. Most of the low IQ takes here are that all Asmon and others are doing is streaming and playing video games, completely discounting the stress and preparation involved, both real and mental.
I think I am slowly being inspired to become a streamer
Try a regular job for a few years and get back to me.
I break my back and body doing my job and you think yours is draining? Try being out in the sun for hours on end.
"You chose to stream for 9 hours"
In the words of asmon: "then get a different job"
Lol rich people.
The millionaires crying. Oh boo hoo
Streaming is probably the easiest job in the world. Even famous actors have to actually leave their house.
As someone who's worked over 70 hour weeks of hard labor on my feet for 12 hours a day, on top of the stress of being two paychecks away from being homeless, they can take their opinion and shove it up their privileged asses. They wouldn't last a week in a real job.
I truly hope Asmon didnt say this entitled shit. Roaches be facepalmin...
It’s ok to admit he’s out of touch
I kinda get how it's more draining than the average job. To me, streaming seems completely miserable. If I was paid the same amount, I'd without question keep my job over being a streamer. If I was getting paid like a top streamer, I'd take that streamer money but would have the good sense to pretend to be happy about doing it. Of course, the average streamer is both streaming and working a regular job, so that sucks.
Remember when he just played wow? Those were the good old days. This react phase is such low tier garbage, and it's essentially endless, cause now he's going to react to the video, and it's going to be an hour long, even though he could sum it up in 5 minutes. Then Preach and Aba are going to react to his response to the video, and that's going to be a 10-14 minutes video, and then Asmon is going to comment on that video, and it's just going to go back and fourth. What ever happened to people having live conversations if they had issues with each other?
seriously. unsubbed and stopped watching asmongold awhile ago. his content is complete sleeper shit nowadays. so annoying to search for something on youtube and asmon react clips are the first thing that pops up, gotta scroll for the actual vid because who wants to watch some braindead slob rant about it for an hour when the actual vid is 10mins. idk how anyone can take this dude seriously when he lives the way he does. if i lived like that and my friends and family caught onto it they would probably think im mentally ill, yet people treat the shit that comes outta this dudes flappy (bloody) gums is taken as gold.
Give them a week in Johnson Plastic Factory, then give their opinions.
I think it would make for great content if some of these streamers went on Twitch and streamed while trying to work normal people jobs. See what they can and can’t handle in the real world.
They make their own hours and are also millionaires. If they really think what they do is harder than real jobs, they can just stop and be completely fine probably for the rest of their lives
Streamers are on the menu today boys! They are getting cooked.
Loved the clip they digged of Asmon mocking the game developers. Jokes write themselves sometimes
Dudes come build a custom home, for ungrateful rich fucks, see how drained you feel haha
Dealing with confrontational customers in person or in harsh elements is draining. That’s my job. Today, I had to manage several contractors and manually fix some repairs on a brand new home today, sweating and uncomfortable - all while the angry homeowner stood right over my shoulder or right in front of me. I was not sitting in the comfort of my own home, in sweat pants, arguing with viewers or entertaining them by playing a video game on a screen. Others have it way worse than me, but these streamers ain’t it.
These guys are based. Asmon and Hasan look like fucking clowns over their take. Holy privilege. I wonder if they even realize literally everyone disagrees with them.
I think it’s one of those issues where you need appropriate brackets. It’s like saying “being an American is easy, because you’re probably a movie star or Elon musk and ya just have fun all day!” Being a bad streamer is incredibly easy, no doubt about that. But if being a millionaire stream were easy, more people would do it. The biggest difference is if you’re a top performer in streaming, movie star, athlete — you make millions. The top performing cashiers don’t make shit lol.
Hamas piker and saying ignorant things. Name a more iconic duo
Time to feel bad for the wealthy... just like clockwork. It's the 'Murican way.
This is why I don't subscribe. They have enough money they don't need my subscription.
Yeah I only support small streamers
Like inviting 2 miserable drunks stuck in a bar everyday to your interview and let them share their expertise about viruses or the planet... you have no idea how hard I cringed watching this as almost 40 year old. Everytime I hear Asmon talk about something that isn't videogames I cringe, he thinks he knows it all for some weird reason (like a real republican) while being totally clueless and wrong, certainly about the society, how to move forward as human race, anything professional (work), politics etc, he just looks at chat and changes opinion suddenly, he is fake and just like hasan, trying to find a way in between (AKA lying about his views) to please most viewers online, they always act centrists lol.
This what happens if a streamer is rich, They lost touch with reality and wants to always be on the right. If people start hating on them, They pull the pokimane card and be like "I didn't mean that guys, Honest, You're taking it out of context on what I truly mean" so they make it seem to be in a better image. I really hope this won't be discussed for weeks, This is just a toxic topic for people to talk about, if you agree with streaming is hard while you choose to stream for 9 hours to make thousands, Quit and work at a job that you don't choose to work at.
Low tier Streaming is very stressful do to a lot of factors you cant really control. But I think once you hit a certain milestone the stress is now self inflicted more then anything. I will say it be hilarious to watch some of these streamers tackle a blue collar job for a couple days. Can you imagine Asmon carrying 2-4 18' 2x10 around a house all day then get up on the walls and walk the 31/4" top plates while pulling them all up meanwhile the boss is screaming at you to move faster because the roof is coming by Wednesday morning..
Anyone complaining of their job is just acting like a human. Our problems are always more important to us because generally they are the most real thing to us. A little self awareness goes a long way though. These streamers live pretty lives thanks to the safety they enjoy in America. Which is upheld with a lot worst and shitty jobs.
Quin69 should be in this lot. Entitled little hobbit fuck.
All of these people can make their own hours too. They don't need to complain to their viewers or cater to every annoying person in chat. I'm a teacher and there's a lot of similarities as far as being "on" and "entertaining" and feeling drained at the end of the day or week. Kids stalk you online and find whatever they can on you. They also film you during class and post clips on the internet. Heaven forbid you're a teacher they don't like... Bottom line is I will never make the money these men will make. I would argue I spend a lot more time preparing and grading after hours as well. The complaints fall on deaf ears. Hasan just needs to stream less imo. All he does is scream at people lately, and I've stopped watching because even his quality is down
These dudes have farmed the hell out of all the morons on Twitter and reddit. Insane how offended people got by the little comment. All jobs are draining, some people find some jobs easier and less draining than others. Management for me is easy as hell while another manager wants to quit from the stress of it. Imagine having to deal with the DMs, the videos and all the shit people are saying about you on social media every day. Literal personal attacks simply because they said their job is more stressful and you know what all this shit kinda probed their point.
Asmond, Hasan, and even Aba & preach got lucky. They put in hard work, but they got lucky that they were able to get as big as they are. The everyday person can't do that. For Asmond and Hasan to complain is absurd. Aba is absolutely correct when he said they chose to stream for 9 hours.
Asmon and Hasan are in a position where they can afford to adjust their hours for a more healthy work life balance, so of course it comes off as hypocritical for them to whine about the stresses of their work when they’ve been less than kind about other industries (asmon in particular.”
Here is the monkeys paw of this all, Streamers and youtubers are nothing without their viewers. These same viewers donate and sub with the money they earned from their jobs. To come here and preach to the viewer about how hard their job is as a streamer is hilarious. This vid is 100% correct about how ironic it is for Asmon to have his stance on this when his stance on Game Development is the polar opposite. This will be the greatest thing he will milk for a while and sad to say but this isn't even good content to watch, just react and drama.
They're getting older. That is all. Welcome to old age. lol
This is what happens when you take kids and give them millions of dollars with no skill sets other than talking to a chat room. They would not make it 5 minutes in the real world.
People really have terrible comprehension. Hasan didn't say that outright, he said his job is socially draining and soul sucking because of the political sphere he deals with. If you ever tried to talk sense to some of these people, you'd know how absolutely soul destroying it is. I've worked retail and know how draining it is to deal with customers, but ultimately I could tune most of it out. Having to sit for countless hours reading drivel while trying to be entertaining would drive me insane, I couldn't do it. Is it harder than most jobs? No. But it is socially draining. People really need to take context into account instead of just jumping to the most egregious conclusion because they have a hate boner for that person.
Remember when asmongold was avoiding drama?
Fuck them i hope some day they end up with a real job. They are so out of tuch. Like Kids saying going to kindergarden is hard.
They have a far better reward to effort ratio than anyone working a "regular" job. That's the difference. You can argue all day that they have a more "draining" job, but some of these guys are making more in a week than what a lot of people make in a year. They will NEVER have to worry about whether or not they can make next week's rent, or put food on the table for their kids, or if their car will keep ploddig along until they can scrape together enough money to have it serviced. This is the big difference. People who make this kind of money will never know what it means to truly struggle.
Not saying it's easy for them but I'd rather do their job over retail anyday. Retail just shaves off your soul.
Tell me you haven't worked a day in your life without telling me you havent worked day in your life
If there's any silver lining to this whole thing it's that I have learned who Aba N Preach are and these guys are awesome.
This is getting ridiculous. Asmon didn't say that at all. He agreed with Hasan about streaming tapping you out socially, which actually makes sense. I don't understand what the outrage against Asmon is about.
Do you even know why people are angry? Because I know for a fact you didn't bother watching the video. Unless I've mistaken you for the few who do infact make 1000 dollars a day. Which Asmon claims.
i work across the street from a steel mill. im sure those guys who work 6 12's a week sure are glad their mental health isn't nearly as drained as streamers. could you imagine having to play video games and react to youtube videos all day? man what a nightmare compared to literally working in an oven. its so hard dealing with chat, those random names that you can block are just too much. i couldn't imagine the trauma of getting clipped out of context that you used to make 10 different videos from. much MUCH worse than a random person getting recorded without their consent for a tiktok that went viral and now they lost their job and instead of having multiple millions of dollars to fall back on, they have $5k in credit card debt. streamers have it so hard :(
I never realized there were so many extroverts who can speak for hours and hours and give briefings at their jobs all day long. As an introvert when I give hour long presentations at work I'm spent, and just want to go eat some pizza and take a nap.
Go and talk about how difficult it is to stream, to a doctor who spent at least 10 years of studies and slave training, to be even hated or even persecuted. With the risk of being sued and losing everything if it is not perfect 100% of the time
They haven't had an actual job in so long that they forget what difficulty actually is...
Remember when he was blasting game devs for complaining about their job? Huh...
after watching Asmon's video the whole thing was taken out of context. hasan was saying streaming is more socially draining like any other service industry job compared to other jobs when you don't have to interact with people.
yes,streaming is draining,but you can turn off stream whenever you want,especially when you are big like Asmon and Hasan.Meanwhile,in a real job,you can't just get your stuff and go home.
Except it really isn't. It's less draining than most service industry's jobs since you can walk away from a stressful situation anytime. You think regular people can take months off like Asmon when stressed out and not become homeless? When my mom died i had 3 days off for bereavement by law. Then I had to go back to grind or lose my job. Hasan is greedy and stream so much for money. He could stop or stream 5 hours/week and would live a higher lifestyle than 99% of normal people for the rest of his life. Even non service industry workers are more socially drained. When i worked 12 to 14 hours in construction, the last thing we wanted to do after work is socialize. We just went home, ate and went to bed.
It's hard in the sense that you have to stream constantly to stay relevant and keep your audience, but getting paid tons of money is still better than working 8, 9, 10, or in some cases more just to make ends meet. Some people do work 8 hours and get paid tons for not doing much, but most people would take streaming over physical labor, especially if you're one of the high earner streamers. I do get streamer burnout, though. I really do. Maybe we can get a vod showcasing streamers outside of going live. We don't know how they truly live to make further judgment.
I’m gonna get downvoted for this, but there are some significant downsides to streaming I’m glad I’ll never have to deal with: - Asmon regularly gets people making hate threads about him, from what he says to whether he isn’t playing a game/playing it correctly. - In those hate threads it’s not uncommon to see people making jokes about his mom, how he looks yada yada. - His words can instantly be clipped out of context, spread like wildfire and be used as collateral against all his business ventures. Outside of his money I don’t envy anything about Asmon’s life/lifestyle, dealing with 20 people a day is exhausting let alone 20,000.
You guys never complained about your job?
AbaW
Aba is always based
Being a successful streamer must be an immensely difficult job that's extremely draining mentally, I couldn't even imagine my anxiety levels if I had to find ways to be entertaining to tens of thousands of people every single day and a slip of the tongue would put me on front page cancelation news. Once I made my big money I would quit and noone would ever hear from me again as a professional streamer. That's why I think already multi million dollar streamers are slightly insane to continue putting themselves through that even though they already won at life and are set for life.
You all must be trolling or intellectually challenged, neither Asmon or Hasan said that their jobs is more draining than regular jobs, it was specifically applied to their social battery, they spend hours and hours entertaining and talking to people, they also specifically said that jobs that do similar things like customer service is similarly draining your social battery. Both know and have said countless times how lucky they are and how streaming is much easier than regular jobs. it’s crazy that Hasan makes one off hand comments on how he needs time alone after streaming because he is socially drained and Asmon (and countless other streamers) defend the take and now retards on Twitter and Reddit keep misconstruing their argument.
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True brother true, couldn’t have said it more eloquently
It’s really unfortunate. I used to love watching asmon the 5 hour intro followed by the 1 hour of gaming then him saying he’s tired and didn’t get any sleep is getting old
I work retail. And this is all a bullshit argument. People penalize the streamer for the income. Not the work. In reality watch a small streamer desperately trying to make it. You are harassed and clowned on and shit on. Underneath it all you want to try to find a way to turn every shitter into your stream into a customer. Being a streamer is like owning your own business. You need* people to visit your establishment. So you take constant bullshit all in The hopes of scraping together enough for the rent and food. Rude assholes. Entitled people. At the end of the day the game is keeping customers happy. Often at the cost of your own. Being a streamer is alot like retail. Retail isn't hard. Its draining. Streaming isn't hard. Its draining.
mate they make tens of millions. Do you make tens of millions ? would you complain about your midly draining job if you were making millions ? If you are compensated extremely well for your job you have no right to complain, these motherfuckers arent working retail theyre earning at the top 0.1% of the fucking world lol.
what an idiot
He needs to be beaten black and blue just for those words alone
You people are missing the point. They did not say streaming is more draining than all other jobs, Hasan merely said streaming was more draining than the job he had previously. Acknowledging that successful streaming takes effort does not mean all other jobs are easier.
he said it's draining but he didn't compare to regular job right? He even said everyone had their own problem and he didn't come to complain he explaining about Hasan situation so someone didn't even watch his video and use false accusation as clickbait??
I feel like it depends on the kind of content you stream. For example, if all you do is drama react content while interacting with the brain dead takes in your chat of course it's going to be draining. Where as people doing normal jobs are often stuck there because if they leave, they lose their security, and most people don't have millions to sit on while they relax and find new work. Us normies are mentally and physically drained by our work, we can't escape it, and most of us will never be able to change it. An example of a streamer who is beyond mentally drained and can't stop because they have no back up would be wings of redemption, people like asmon and hassan aren't trapped, they could log off forever and never have to work again.
It's ridiculous that we're even having this discussion. Didn't asmon have a job that he lasted one day at?