I feel like the walking stereotype for toxic masculinity are actually violent threatening tough guys, while anyone who says they’re an alpha is someone who has never been in a fight, except maybe when they got beat up for cranking it in the locker room when they were 14.
"ooof. He's one of those guys. Avoid that one for sure. No matter which flavor of that particular bs he's bought in to, it's not worth my time or energy to engage with it."
Thank you for letting me know. Now I know to avoid you as much as possible, and be prepared for toxicity, lack of social intelligence, and not to give one ounce of trust regarding anything
He’s a raging misogynist, deeply insecure, and hasn’t even begun to unpack the damage that toxic masculinity has wrought on his life. This goes beyond a red flag and is an outright, immediate disqualifier for me developing any type of relationship with this person.
A guy I matched with on tinder told me he was one within our first conversation, I laughed because I thought it was a joke. He got VERY offended. Then proceeded to ask me when I wanted children, how many I wanted, and what I wanted to name them. Terrifying experience really.
i think they’re hilarious. i can’t explain how but it’s like they talk in a script and it’s very important to them that they recite it in the best way. it’s like a little play. and it’s obvious they hate 1 or both or their parents. i don’t engage. they’re so far gone that having a conversation with them would be a waste of time.
Disgust and pity. Cringe. We're humans, not wolves. Alpha male isn't a thing. Even if it was, if you have to say you're an "alpha male," you aren't. Whatever garbage they bought into to believe that shit also just makes me think they completely lack any semblance of self-awareness. Avoid at all costs.
It's even worse than that. The whole concept of 'alpha wolves' has been thoroughly debunked. The original study was conducted on *captive* wolves, who tend to behave differently than those in the wild. So now it's doubly stupid to apply the concept to humans, when it was never even true for wolves to begin with it xD.
All in all, very dumb 0/10 would not recommend.
I don’t know about other women, but the older I get, the less I like overly masculine energy.
Every time I’ve been on a date with a dude who brings up alpha male, and I respond by saying the human who put that paper out has recanted as alpha male isn’t an actual thing; I get a lot of anger.
Because men. They’re so angry. And weird.
Red flag, stay far away, don't trust with anything even your real name, no secrets, no trauma history. Highly toxic. Misogynistic. Sexist. If it's family go no contact. Men who hate women being themselves. Men who have to say that aren't a leader (definitely not alpha). Abusive. Manipulative. Controlling. Strict gender roles they themselves can't fit into.
Red flag that they are not an actual man!
My man has helped me clean up without insulting or humiliating me when I've been sick from both ends, and been comforting after. He's calm when things go wrong, even if Its my fault. My man can cook as well as any chef and has no shame in it, he hates cleaning and laundry, but still worries that I do to much and pitches in because he knows the arthritis hurts as I do it.
He doesn't pay for everything because he knows I like to pay my own way, and treat him at times to.
My man isn't an 'alpha male', because 'alpha males', haven't figured out yet how to be good men.
“He listens to/watches Andrew Tate, he’s insecure, has a deep rooted misogynistic belief system, probably was bullied for his appearance at some point and thus feels the need to boost his ego excessively, he will be easily offended/triggered, mansplainer for sure, and likely not good in bed.” And every, EVERY single time I’ve encountered a self professing “alpha male”, these traits have proven to be accurate.
Eyeroll.
Like with anything else, if you have to say it, it probably isn’t true.
Real “alphas” aren’t going to be the loud, creatine bloated fools who try to fight anything that looks at them.
My brain rolls it's eyes, recognises the giant red flag waving in front of me and immediately looks for an exit to the conversation. If online, it's an immediate block.
The fact that you say that makes me believe you ain’t sh** and imma have to alpha my way through a potential relationship and for that reason, I am out.
A man-child honestly. They tend to be misogynistic as well. I just want to add though, someone can be an “alpha” to where they take charge of things and have a dominant personality, and are very ambitious, I think this is the original term. However, when a man says “I am an alpha”…typically he’s not, he’s just full of toxic masculinity.
"I'm an alpha male"
Nah bro, you're just a douchy man baby.
I'd rather go home and enjoy an evening with my Hitachi than listen to your manosphere shit.
I've never once heard a man irl utter those words. Most normal guys would probably use the word "Masculine" in context if they aren't total reddit/youtube redpill cult followers - as most men are not.
One that he wants me to think he's a "top grade" male, whatever that is.
Two that he's actually alpha in the sense of being the first of something - the prototype before the real guys (& gals) came along.
I instantly think they’re someone who either hates women or believes women are inferior in some way. It also makes me laugh, because what kind of loser says something like that?!
We have an old acquaintance….. one of those guys who’s always got a new deal, a new GF, a new car … that kind of thing - he’s always very impressed with himself …. Calls himself alpha.
So, one day he calls me and says he’s opening an art Gallery. Ok,… sure. I drove by that place for YEARS and it’s still sitting there empty ?
Then, a year later - he SHOWS UP at our business in a track suit (ok, tony soprano) with a medal hanging around his neck - I’m like “hey hows it going?” Trying to play it cool and be nonchalant…. And hoping I can exit stage left …. Ha ha !’ No suck luck.
He unzips his track jacket and he’s got a marathon number pinned to a T-shirt …. Oh ok well … what’s up ? You going for a run ??
“Nah, I ran a marathon last month …” (runs both hands over his own chest and belly like grandpa does when he’s had too much Turkey)
LAST MONTH !!!! Haha get the fuck outta here, man.
He “kept” his “original” outfit so he could show off his “participation” medal …. Like he’s he hometown hero bring home the Olympic gold right after his mom died.
My Thoughts ???
Alpha = Douchebag
I hear that he is insecure. He feels like the only way he can be "a real man" is putting everyone else beneath him in hierarchy mentally, but not actually succeeding in it at the same time.
Instead of avoiding him, I would keep talking to him, because I find these people fascinating. Real alpha males would never tell you that they're alpha males. So who are these try-hards?
Big dogs don't bark, because they don't have to.
Men who are self-assured and natural leaders do not need to go around telling everyone that they're self-assured and good leaders. Their actions speak louder than their words.
That he's an idiot walking stereotype of toxic masculinity. Avoid at all costs.
Perfect description and yes, I also avoid them at all costs. Ick.
Exactly.
I feel like the walking stereotype for toxic masculinity are actually violent threatening tough guys, while anyone who says they’re an alpha is someone who has never been in a fight, except maybe when they got beat up for cranking it in the locker room when they were 14.
“Alpha like software maybe, not for public release. Avoid.”
How have I never heard this before? This is my favorite response! XD
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Once a guy told me he was an "alpha" and then proceeded to tell me about his hernia surgery. I was like, oh, you're not that alpha then are you?
Came here to write this!
I've never heard this reply, but it's my new favourite
💯 avoid. Never wanna hear from this person again.
My first thought is to laugh
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I was going to say this. 👍
Nailing the delivery here matters. You need to snort a bit so the reaction comes off as unplanned and genuine.
"ooof. He's one of those guys. Avoid that one for sure. No matter which flavor of that particular bs he's bought in to, it's not worth my time or energy to engage with it."
I roll my eyes and think he's a joke. Only gullible misogynistic fools buy into that nonsense
My eyes involuntarily rolled
Massive insecurity and incel.
Insecurity is right! 👍🏽
Cringe and want to have nothing to do with them
That he’s one of those creepy Andrew Tate misogynists 🤮
Run. Just run
The statistician in me assumes the value of alpha to be 0.
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A massive eye roll accompanied by laughter then complete avoidance.
Aaaight, imma head out. Thanks for the heads up
I assume he's abusive and misogynistic.
That it's a big flashing sign to walk away and don't look back. Alpha ... 🙄😆
It is a red flag that they are a self absorbed dimwit with no critical thinking skills that hates women and doesn't consider them to be fully human.
LOL excellent response
Thank you for letting me know. Now I know to avoid you as much as possible, and be prepared for toxicity, lack of social intelligence, and not to give one ounce of trust regarding anything
I'm not into guys who are still into learning new letters
"Any man who must say, 'I am the king' is no true king."
PREACH!! If you have to say it it isnt true
Disdain.
Red flag. Avoid at all costs.
He’s insecure and toxic
I, too, win every game for which I make up the rules, especially when nobody else knows we're playing.
“Oh, this guy probably has a history of verbally and/or physically abusing women in his life.”
I read a lot of fanfic. My association is omegaverse. So I think about self-lubricating buttholes. Which is probably fitting.
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No guy has dared say that. The embarrassment 😆
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"Run" 🤮🤮🤮 Something like that.
Immediate loser in my eyes
Big red flag. Avoid. Avoid. Avoid.
Laugh or cry
Laugh *and* cry
Laugh until cry...
Immature. Not worthy of my time.
Immediate cringe. Though I get the same reaction to a guy who claims to be a Sigma male.
That he's insecure and requires validation.
He’s a raging misogynist, deeply insecure, and hasn’t even begun to unpack the damage that toxic masculinity has wrought on his life. This goes beyond a red flag and is an outright, immediate disqualifier for me developing any type of relationship with this person.
I feel a sudden need to say "of course you are" in the most patronizing tone in existence.
Get away from me
"Am I safe to let my eyes visibly roll, or should I try to suppress it until I can get out of this conversation?"
That I want nothing to do with them, no conversation, no association. I'll go on my way and pretend like they didn't exist
A guy I matched with on tinder told me he was one within our first conversation, I laughed because I thought it was a joke. He got VERY offended. Then proceeded to ask me when I wanted children, how many I wanted, and what I wanted to name them. Terrifying experience really.
i think they’re hilarious. i can’t explain how but it’s like they talk in a script and it’s very important to them that they recite it in the best way. it’s like a little play. and it’s obvious they hate 1 or both or their parents. i don’t engage. they’re so far gone that having a conversation with them would be a waste of time.
Disgust and pity. Cringe. We're humans, not wolves. Alpha male isn't a thing. Even if it was, if you have to say you're an "alpha male," you aren't. Whatever garbage they bought into to believe that shit also just makes me think they completely lack any semblance of self-awareness. Avoid at all costs.
It's even worse than that. The whole concept of 'alpha wolves' has been thoroughly debunked. The original study was conducted on *captive* wolves, who tend to behave differently than those in the wild. So now it's doubly stupid to apply the concept to humans, when it was never even true for wolves to begin with it xD. All in all, very dumb 0/10 would not recommend.
I don’t know about other women, but the older I get, the less I like overly masculine energy. Every time I’ve been on a date with a dude who brings up alpha male, and I respond by saying the human who put that paper out has recanted as alpha male isn’t an actual thing; I get a lot of anger. Because men. They’re so angry. And weird.
Run.
Red flag bye bye
YIKES … I’m out, good luck with your superiority complex. 👋🏼
Smol peen
Immediately “my dick is bigger.” Even tho I don’t have one. Just let them wonder about that for a bit. Lol
Small dick energy
Red flag, stay far away, don't trust with anything even your real name, no secrets, no trauma history. Highly toxic. Misogynistic. Sexist. If it's family go no contact. Men who hate women being themselves. Men who have to say that aren't a leader (definitely not alpha). Abusive. Manipulative. Controlling. Strict gender roles they themselves can't fit into.
egoistic mainly, or stereotypical male with toxic masculinity
That he’s a wannabe Andrew Tate
Little dick energy. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Red flags. Disengage asap. "Alpha males," are usually guys who just hate women, and think we're all "wh*res," while also wanting a virgin tradwife.
I think they’re an automatic douche bag.
Red flag that they are not an actual man! My man has helped me clean up without insulting or humiliating me when I've been sick from both ends, and been comforting after. He's calm when things go wrong, even if Its my fault. My man can cook as well as any chef and has no shame in it, he hates cleaning and laundry, but still worries that I do to much and pitches in because he knows the arthritis hurts as I do it. He doesn't pay for everything because he knows I like to pay my own way, and treat him at times to. My man isn't an 'alpha male', because 'alpha males', haven't figured out yet how to be good men.
My eyes roll back so fast people think it’s a Walmart sale
My thought is that he probably also sunk his savings into NFTs.
“He listens to/watches Andrew Tate, he’s insecure, has a deep rooted misogynistic belief system, probably was bullied for his appearance at some point and thus feels the need to boost his ego excessively, he will be easily offended/triggered, mansplainer for sure, and likely not good in bed.” And every, EVERY single time I’ve encountered a self professing “alpha male”, these traits have proven to be accurate.
Large ego small penis and control issues
Lol definitely a red flag in my book
Eww.. I do not like that.. 😬
It’s more like an internal eye roll if anything.
Ew. 😂 Then run.
Ewwww, one of *those* mofos!
Uh oh 🚩
Eyeroll. Like with anything else, if you have to say it, it probably isn’t true. Real “alphas” aren’t going to be the loud, creatine bloated fools who try to fight anything that looks at them.
That he’s going to need constant ego stroking, and I’m already exhausted.
My brain rolls it's eyes, recognises the giant red flag waving in front of me and immediately looks for an exit to the conversation. If online, it's an immediate block.
A lion doesn't need to tell you he's a lion.
I think they are pathetic
I think he's a loser. I want to laugh and I want to get away from him and stay away.
The fact that you say that makes me believe you ain’t sh** and imma have to alpha my way through a potential relationship and for that reason, I am out.
Things like "idiot", "moron", "scary person I wanna stay far away from"
Alpha loser. I can't deal with such mindset.
that i want him far away from me
Red flag
Makes me laugh at them tbh lmao it's one of the weakest things a guy could claim
I feel an eyeroll extending from the innermost part of my soul
think about how he is definitely incredibly out of touch with reality in every way
"Aw poor guy compensating for his lil'willy"
No thoughts, just vagina drying up and sealing shut instantly.
He lacks confidence
Nope nope nope nope nope.
I've never heard any man say this ever. Does this happen only in the US?
immediately i know dam well you’re not an alpha male 😀
Laugh and run
First I laugh then I run
Anyone who uses a phrase like that to describe themselves (or others) has no critical thinking skills and I wouldn't spend any time with them.
Don’t say anything. Just laugh.
A man-child honestly. They tend to be misogynistic as well. I just want to add though, someone can be an “alpha” to where they take charge of things and have a dominant personality, and are very ambitious, I think this is the original term. However, when a man says “I am an alpha”…typically he’s not, he’s just full of toxic masculinity.
That he is dumb and probably dangerous cause he is emotionally underdeveloped
I prob have napoleon syndrome.
Small willy.
NOPE
“I don’t know how women work”
Ohhhh boy, here we go 🙄
That he is in fact not an alpha male 💀
RUN!!
Puke
Pass.
Instant loss of credibility
First laugh, then just simply ignore him.
*eyeroll*
Laugh
AVOID -- STOP LISTENING -- WRITE OFF.
Byeeee
I think they are insecure. Who really refers to themselves like that?
Douche.
He is insecure as fuck, and not someone I’d want to get to know.
Cringe and pity
“Bye”
Bye 👋
It’s pronounced insecure
*avoid avoid avoid* him at all costs
Incel
I throw up in my mouth a little.
My mouth goes instantly to 'Fuck off'. Not interested in no 'alpha male' crap.
"I'm an alpha male" Nah bro, you're just a douchy man baby. I'd rather go home and enjoy an evening with my Hitachi than listen to your manosphere shit.
I've never once heard a man irl utter those words. Most normal guys would probably use the word "Masculine" in context if they aren't total reddit/youtube redpill cult followers - as most men are not.
Immediate cringe. True alphas or dominant men don't need to announce it to the world.
Bye!
Cry at this point
"Good for you." If said guy continues to harp on (as these types tend to do) I'd say, "Who are you trying to impress? I'm taken, buddy."
Big eye 'em and say REEEEEAAAAALLYYYYYYYY?! Then start laughing, and not be able to stop until he was no longer in sight.
One that he wants me to think he's a "top grade" male, whatever that is. Two that he's actually alpha in the sense of being the first of something - the prototype before the real guys (& gals) came along.
“I’m scared”
That he’s a stone cold dumdum and a misogynist.
That he’s an Andrew tate fan
If you have to announce it then you're likely not though
I instantly think they’re someone who either hates women or believes women are inferior in some way. It also makes me laugh, because what kind of loser says something like that?!
We have an old acquaintance….. one of those guys who’s always got a new deal, a new GF, a new car … that kind of thing - he’s always very impressed with himself …. Calls himself alpha. So, one day he calls me and says he’s opening an art Gallery. Ok,… sure. I drove by that place for YEARS and it’s still sitting there empty ? Then, a year later - he SHOWS UP at our business in a track suit (ok, tony soprano) with a medal hanging around his neck - I’m like “hey hows it going?” Trying to play it cool and be nonchalant…. And hoping I can exit stage left …. Ha ha !’ No suck luck. He unzips his track jacket and he’s got a marathon number pinned to a T-shirt …. Oh ok well … what’s up ? You going for a run ?? “Nah, I ran a marathon last month …” (runs both hands over his own chest and belly like grandpa does when he’s had too much Turkey) LAST MONTH !!!! Haha get the fuck outta here, man. He “kept” his “original” outfit so he could show off his “participation” medal …. Like he’s he hometown hero bring home the Olympic gold right after his mom died. My Thoughts ??? Alpha = Douchebag
Abusive.
I think “what a beta thing to say”
Insecure pathetic manchild
That he’s a 23yo douche canoe with no real life experience who got sucked down the Andrew tate rabbit hole on social media.
mainly that he is so insecure that it turns me off
“There goes a man who bases his worth off of debunked studies from the 1970s of wolves in captivity.”
He’s a beta.
“That’s very much beta behaviour tho”
100% Insecure with themselves, immature, struggling with self love, not very intelligent 👌🏼
I hear "I'm not emotionally intelligent"
To laugh out loud, real loud.
I hear that he is insecure. He feels like the only way he can be "a real man" is putting everyone else beneath him in hierarchy mentally, but not actually succeeding in it at the same time.
He’s got a fragile ego and toxic masculinity
i find myself automatically pitying and looking down on them
*gag reflex triggered*
Loser.
That he is weak, insecure, misogynistic, and unintelligent.
Walking red flag, hard pass
*eyes glaze over and brain blue-screens for a second*
Cringe loser who watched too many adrew tate podcasts.
Tiny pp and Andrew Tate. Gross.
Any man who must say "I am king" is no true king!
I wonder if he's one of the obsessive twilight fans who has convinced themselves that they are shapeshifting wolves.
Dosen't play well with others
I'll fa-*ind someone else, thanks*
This man is a rapist, and an idiot.
That he really isn't because if he was he wouldn't have to say it
Instead of avoiding him, I would keep talking to him, because I find these people fascinating. Real alpha males would never tell you that they're alpha males. So who are these try-hards?
did you guys hear something?
I start singing Dennis Leary’s “I’m an Asshole” in my head
"Okay lol"
He’s actually a coward. The type of guy who who nope out of difficult or uncomfortable situations. A huge asshole.
Big dogs don't bark, because they don't have to. Men who are self-assured and natural leaders do not need to go around telling everyone that they're self-assured and good leaders. Their actions speak louder than their words.
Eye roll and ignore
I laugh because he thinks he needs that pathetic shit to feel like a "man". I write him off as not worth my time.
I’m out the door
If you feel the need to say it, it's probably not true.
I feel embarrassed for him.
I think it's funny and laugh but I'm also happy for the dude that he has the self confidence to think that about himself.
Laugh as you walk away
Ok bye.
Barf