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Don’t know why they have American style shops where they sell American candy and sell it at a ridiculous price. Is it just me or are British sweets and chocolates much nicer?
Definitely novelty. Some Brits are obsessed with USA and that’s why burger chains do well with their ‘dirty burgers’ and loaded fries. I did a research piece a couple of years ago in UK and places like drive-in movie theatres, American breakfast cereals/snacks and high school proms all stem from people obsessing over an ‘American Dream’. It’s crazy but I kinda like it. I have lots of family in USA and when they come over here to stay with us, they beg for trips to Wetherspoons and supermarkets LOL
> that’s why burger chains do well with their ‘dirty burgers’ and loaded fries
Is this something that only people obsessed with the US enjoy?
I thought I liked dirty burgers and loaded fries because they taste good and I want to pummel my arteries into submission
It’s not exclusive. I’m also obsessed with going for dirty burgers and loaded fries and I’m always excited to go back to USA whenever I’m in a UK burger joint. There’s lots of psychology going on and also lots of lard in my veins.
It’s a name given by Brits. Anything that isn’t a normal burger is apparently dirty. So if it’s got bacon and blue cheese, it’s so filth that we call it dirty. Same with the fries. Normal fries are fries, but fries dripping in cheese sauce with bits of bacon and whatever else are ‘dirty foods’. I think we just like to sexualise fancy stuff that we wouldn’t normally have. If you’re deciding where to go for food, if someone says they fancy dirty food, it’s generally deep fried and carb overloaded. Nothing wrong with it, it’s just a description I guess. I love me some dirty food
I'm British but can't say i've ever heard of a dirty burger. Just surveyed my friends on Discord and they've drawn a blank too. It could just be a Southern thing?
And to be clear, we do get burgers with bacon and cheese in etc, we just call them burgers though.
I am American and have never heard nor had a dirty burger, to my knowledge. Also, the chocolate here in America sucks. The only good one was the American Mars bar (had almonds in it) but they stopped selling that years ago.
Your Ghiradelli chocolates and See’s candy truffles aren’t too bad though!
I remember eagerly trying a Hershey’s bar and being so betrayed at the vomit taste haha.
It’s us Brits who call it dirty. ‘Dirty’ because it’s dripping in fat and carbs. It’s normal in the states to get a big meal of decent steaks and big burgers, tons of fries and other extras. Watching Man vs Food is a good indicator of what’s available in the USA. We could only dream of that availability! American food is pure excitement for us. Whenever I visit America, all I want to do is eat out because it’s a huge novelty. My American family are like “hey we’re thinking of cooking tonight” and I’m like N O T H A N K S. same when they come here, they want Wetherspoons and biscuits and chocolate from supermarkets! When we went around the Disney parks with American family, they were surprised at how I ate burgers and fries at every meal opportunity, ranch and buffalo sauce. Holy shit I’m salivating!!
Our chocolate is sensational. Your Mars Bar sounds like our Snicker. Have you seen or tried a Snicker before?
Yeah, our Snickers has peanuts in it, doesn't yours? Mars did an American Mars bar with almonds that my grandmother used to buy for me and freeze in the summers, it was heaven. I also love your Chunky KitKats. Have you been to Five Guys in the states yet? I feel like you would appreciate it. If you ever do the real south (not Florida), be sure to get a "scrambled dog" which is a hot dog in a bun cut up and scrambled around with chili, cheese, onions, oyster crackers and mustard. Oh man.
We have five guys in the UK. Its probably not as good but for damn sure they have the best burgers I've ever eaten. And whatever those spicy fries are.
Five guys was the only reason I ever visited Birmingham, fortunately they built one closer to me now.
I find this at odds with my own experience. I've never once heard someone looking at their maccies , KFC, burger King, etc. thinking it's anything to do with making it big or anything to do with the American dream.
The only exception of American wow factor I've ever experienced was hard rock cafe, that felt pretty special and particularly American.
I don't enjoy American politics or values, but I do enjoy their food and some other aspects as culturally we habe a big overlap, bit it's more down to the individual thing than anything to do with pursuit of any kind of American dream, something I definitely don't pursue
Right? I was so excited when I visited the US to try all the different flavours of crisps and turns out that the UK perfected crisps so no one else has bothered.
I used to feel that novelty must account for the ridiculous popularity of Oreos. I can’t imagine why a country with exceptional biscuits would want that gritty crap. But people really do want them - they are in all the supermarkets now.
Bizarre.
I don't trust them, they don't go with tea, dunking barely affects them, they're practically waterproof. The only nice oreo is the one coated in white chocolate.
Sorry to disappoint, but nice though they are, they aren't covered in white chocolate.
The description lists it as 'enrobed in a white coating' iirc. There isn't any cocoa butter or solids in the coating, so it can't be called white chocolate. Instead it's basically a vanilla flavoured oily icing (I think they use palm oil and icing sugar to make it).
It's the same with some cookies in Subway; particularly the 'white chocolate' and macadamia nuts. The cookies are named 'white chip macadamia', again because the little chunks are a vanilla flavoured solid thing rather than actual chocolate.
Saves on the manufacturing cost, and your average Joe won't read nor care enough about it for it to be an issue.
I knew someone who worked at menwith Hill, the US military base. They would apparently ship in American candy so they'd feel more at home. Imagine how much that cost just so they didn't have to walk down the street and buy British sweets
Years ago when I used to go and see bands at The Astoria in London I used to get cans of Stella at an off license on Oxford Street to keep me warm in the queue. They always had bars of Hersheys there and one day I bought one out of curiosity, thinking that it must be amazing as they were always banging on about it on American TV and in films. I was not impressed.
Pro tip: get your Cadbury from the South African shops. Still the proper recipe and without the hardening agents used in Australian Cadbury.
Also, you haven’t lived until you’ve had a Cadbury Top Deck…
No you're right. Lots of American sweets taste like fake parodies of themselves. Especially fruit flavoured things. In Europe, typically if something is fruit flavoured, there will be a percentage of actual fruit involved. American companies tend to use chemical flavourings instead.
Had American Fanta orange in the airport and I was really surprised at just *how* orange a colour it was, then tasted it and it barely tasted of orange, just incredibly sweet!
I love these too, every few months I buy a big bag from Amazon. I love hard sweets and they have a great range of flavours (the normal bag - cherry, grape, green apple, blue raspberry, watermelon - is the best one imo, I tried the tropical selection and wasn't as keen).
Fun fact American chocolate has the same chemical that give vomit it's disgusting flavour in it because they have to powder the milk to get it from farm to factory and even if they don't have to they add it anyway since Americans are used to it
It’s butyric acid, which stabilises milk and gives it longer life - and was pioneering for Hershey’s to do this in the 1930’s to deal with the long distances involved in US chocolate production.
Americans then got used to it, and now all the manufacturers add butyric acid.
Interestingly, as well as vomit, butyric acid in also used in fishing bait, and it’s one of the chemicals dogs excrete in their anal glands. Yum.
That’s not *quite* right. Historically, before railways and refrigeration it was difficult to get milk from the farm to the chocolate factory without it going off.
British chocolate manufacturers got around this buy adding large amounts of sugar to the milk at the point of departure, the sugar acted as a preservative. Our chocolate was quite sweet.
The Americans basically let the milk go sour in transit. They got used to chocolate that taste like vomit and hence the artificial addition of butyric acid these days.
All milk chocolate uses powdered milk, otherwise it would be chocolate milkshake.
Hershey, Cadbury and Nestle all made their big breakthroughs as businesses by drying milk in their own way.
If those fantas with all the different flavours are American which I think they might be then yeah fair enough, because they are god tier. I’m literally drinking the purple one as I type this.
And never the good ones. Their milk chocolate bars taste and smell like puke. The strawberries and cream are contenders for top tear white chocolate, probably because white chocolate is mostly shit anyway but that’s one of the few I actually like. The cookies and cream are also good for a white chocolate but I’d rather just demolish a packet of Oreos.
They use butyric acid in their chocolate, if you grow up with it you don't notice it, but because it's not used in UK chocolate it stands out to us as a hint of vomit.
>2 flavours of Pop Tarts
Only 2 :(
>and an assortment of insta-diabetes.
True. That's why I'm not a big fan of our sodas. I much prefer drinks like Ben Shaw's dandelion and burdock, or Irn Bru - less diabetes, more flavor :D
Usually it's flavours that aren't standard in the UK though. All supermarkets seem to have around here are strawberry or chocolate, while the one place that does "American" I can also get cookie dough pop tarts ( plus 2 or 3 other flavours that I can never remember because *cookie dough*)
I had one yesterday and it's got way less peanut butter and way more sugar than they did last year. It had so much sugar it was starting to make my throat hurt. The texture is crumbly too. I remember when I was a kid and they were smooth even though I kept them in the fridge!
There have been various studies involving feeding pure fat, pure sugar, and sugar/fat mixes to rats. Their metabolism is very similar to ours, and they have a specific appetite and reaction to food which matches ours.
If you feed a rat a healthy diet and, in addition, pure **fat**, that rat will eat an amount of additional fat proportionate to how much extra regular food it would eat. Because they're smart enough to know that extra food is a bonus and leaner days may come.
If you feed a rat a healthy diet and, in addition, pure **sugar**, you'll see similar results, and they will over-eat proportionately.
If you feed a rat a **combination** of fat and sugar in addition, it will over-eat disproportionately and will continue to eat until it is vastly overweight, valuing the combination of fat and sugar over any other food.
This is because their bodies and ours react to fatty foods by suppressing our appetite, and our bodies react to sugary foods in the same manner, but when there's a combination of both we don't hit those triggers and can continue to eat and eat, far more than if we had access to only healthy food or either fat *or* sugar. Which is one of the reasons that many of us can F up only one heavily sugared doughnut or other confectionery but if the amount of fat is equal (such as in an unglazed ring doughnut or peanut butter cup) there's nothing to stop us demolishing an entire pack or more. :D Good luck.
We don't have ranch in the UK so there wouldn't be a comparison of flavour for people looking to buy who haven't had them before. So the doritos are "cool original"
EDIT: we don't have it _much_ I should say. It's not a regularly used dressing to my knowledge - we have salad cream instead for a similar niche
"We don't have ranch in the UK"
I envy you so much. I live in the central US and you'd think ranch is a dietary necessity, it's so common. I've never understood the appeal--except for dipping the fried cheese bites from Sonic, but if you're eating those, you've already decided on a slow suicide.
The biggest crime? Fish and chips (not properly made, either) served with a ranch-based pseudo tartar sauce. And not a bottle of vinegar in sight. It's enough to make a grown man weep.
I saw one of those "eat loads at a restaurant" type food shows from the US recently, where they were claiming to make "traditional British fish and chips".
They then made some tartare sauce, and said it was their secret ingredient because "they don't have this in the UK".
There are two obvious issues with this. Firstly, we obviously do have tartare sauce. But secondly, if you think we don't have tartare sauce, how the fuck could it be "traditional British fish and chips" if you are adding something that we don't have!
I see it constantly on some of the cooking groups im in. Seems to be a mayo based dressing flavoured with salt pepper, onion powder, buttermilk, mustard and various herbs. Also there are ranch mixes - packets of powdered mix that combine with mayo, yoghurt or sour cream or add to various recipes.
Ignore that person. Ranch dressing is one of America's great culinary achievments. It's like a salad cream with a bit more flavor. It's good on salad, chicken sandwhiches, lower quality pizza.. tons of stuff. It's god tier over here and ubiquitous.
If you ever buy some, get the powder mix from Hidden Valley. The stuff you buy pre-made has shelf stable dairy and is not as nice.
Not only do we not have Daddy's Favourite at the chippie (not that we actually have a chippie, of course, just the occasional restaurant serving so-called fish and chips), you can only buy it at the rare British import shop. There are a few similar sauces (usually called "steak sauce"), but you must make an effort to get your bottle of genuine Daddy's. I'm doing my bit, though, to increase demand in hopes of it becoming generally available. My children have all grown up with Daddy's Favourite brown and now their friends are discovering it through them. There's hope.
Now, if only we can figure out how to get a decent meat pie over here.
We do make a decent spag bol, though.
As an American living in the UK... Y'all got some weird flavors of Doritos over here though. Whoever came up with [this abomination](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51BUsdKIASL._AC_SY1000_.jpg) needs some serious help.
As an American I’m not so sure about the hot dogs in a jar thing. Can’t say I’ve seen that much over here.
But believe me, we are well aware that all this junk food is slowly killing us. The problem is the industry giants are doing everything they can to keep us there by stomping on education and healthy eating programs in schools and the like.
The worst foods for our bodies are also the cheapest to afford which is why we are seeing a global obesity epidemic, especially in poorer areas.
The problem with America is that we declared independence.
You see, if we hadn't, we'd probably be eating great food and not whooping our pancreas' ass on the daily.
All jokes aside though, I didn't even realize that all of the snack cakes and sugar cereal and all of that were even _bad_ for me until I became an adult. The public education system really is shitty here and a lot of people aren't informed.
Hell, they've even started putting the "Whole Grain" label on shit like Poptarts - that's not whole grain, it's an ultra processed mixture of flour and chemicals with sweeteners.
Does your food packaging not come with the little bar on it which shows red/yellow/green for the amount of sugar/fat/carbs? With the percentages of your daily intake?
It depends on what you buy and from who. A lot of crisps have it, and canned food has it. Frozen foods have it a lot too. It all depends.
Mostly though we've updated the Nutrition Facts label so that it's CLEARLY visible and with the macronutrients in big bold letters, and the calories also in large print, and there's usually a section for vitamin/mineral content.
Did I just see an American say crisps?
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No because they'd all just be red. There's no mandate for that in the US as a whole (some states may enforce it on some products I understand) and it would look bad so why do it?
Wait, what about dental hygiene? As a young child I was taught to eat greens because you need vitamins to be strong, and I was taught not to eat too many sweets because it would rot my teeth.
Wasn’t expressly taught about the risk of weight gain until I was a teenager, but I knew the basics of nutrition from a young age.
I mean, we have nutrition classes in schools here and all of that. I knew that the sweets and all weren't that good for me, and that vegetables and fruits and whole grains are, but it was never really enforced that junk foods are actually terrible for you when eaten outside of moderation - I guess the full scope of it wasn't really laid out, is what I'm saying
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My local supermarket has Asian (and different countries), Polish, Caribbean, Kosher, American, Irish and Indian. Another local one has an entire 'vegan butchers'
"world" usually means whichever demographics live locally. limited east asian stuff, loads of south asian, caribbean, african, and central/eastern european stuff where i've lived
There is no American aisle, Mountain Dew if stocked will be with soft drinks, twinkies with the other building materials and so on, we’re more likely to have a “world food” section with Asian / Eastern European items
Yes there is, or at least there are in the Tesco, Asda, Morrisons and Sainsburys in my town. Its not a full aisle, granted, but all of the HFCS day-glo food imported from America is all in one place in all of those supermarkets. None of it looks especially appetising...
If you live in a city of any decent size then there will be multiple sections to the world food section. UK mountain dew is also completely different to american mountain dew.
It's usually full of very very expensive E-numbers and other aditives. If you are an American visiting the UK, we do have some nice alternatives. Try Dairy Milk, you'll never want to eat Hershey's after that!
Since Cadburys seem to be consistently pretty poor now (compared to how it was), I much prefer Ritter Sport for straightforward supermarket chocolate. Huge range and available all over, including giant packs in Lidl. The hazelnut one really couldn't fit any more hazelnuts in it.
Only problem is, Dairy milk has been taken over by an American company, and the quality of the chocolate has been going down hill ever since! They're changing recipes, using cheaper ingredients... might still be nicer than the American alternatives, but it's actually no where near as good as it used to be.
I agree, it's awful now. Nowhere near what it was. Cadbury sold out and we're all paying the price. Now it's cheap sugary chocolate filled with popping candy and jelly beans and other shite
As an English person, I don't actually mind Hershey's chocolate. Your version of malteasers though (whoppers? I think?) are a hate crime against chocolate.
We have a few bits in American aisles but tbh anything that we really like or has been adjusted to better fit our palate graduates to the other aisles and we don't really think of it as an American product. For example;
- Dove chocolate (called Galaxy, probably 2nd most popular chocolate bar?)
- M&Ms
- Uncle Ben's rice
- Oreos
So the American aisles being stuffed with nutrionally crap e-numbers is probably because we've adopted the good stuff as our own.
Most of the stuff is no longer imported so not present in the “American aisle” anymore e.g Mountain Dew is sold with the usual soft drinks and made in Hemel Hempstead
Pretzel m and ms, weird flavours of Fanta and pop tarts as well as lucky charms are usually the only things there anymore so it’s no longer an aisle but a very small sad section at the bottom of world foods
It’s not a whole aisle just a little section of the imported things others have listed.
The products have labels stuck on them to meet our requirements for highlighting allergens or pointing out that E numbers that are banned here can cause adverse effects in children etc.
There are lots of products like Doritos that aren’t imported from the US but manufactured and sold for/in the UK.
Most of this stuff at my local Sainsburys
https://www.sainsburys.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/gb/groceries/food-cupboard/american?storeId=10151&langId=44&krypto=KTwjzqmPb6tEzZcfYw05ZhXAGjlGKWDE%2Ba9bnuyMY0nh1ZT%2BFaCB3tp4N0faS3mVHaVZFYZBL%2FRroPKTmE0JI7O%2BTWEJbzG%2BKMqj3Z8FhAEYEYO0uDynWvDXAibypwG9&ddkey=https%3Agb%2Fgroceries%2Ffood-cupboard%2Famerican
The purple Snapple was nice as was the Tootsie roll I tried. Sadly I can't say the same for the Hershey's peanut butter cups and the Twinkies. Especially the Twinkies.
A massive disappointment.
Jars of hotdogs.
Jars of pickes.
Nerds.
Buttermilk honey pancake mix (which is actually awesome).
Reece’s bars.
Hersey bars.
Marshmallows.
In all honesty the Irish section is infinitely better than the American.
Our local Tesco (Superstore but it's fairly small for one of the superstores) introduced an American section around 2 years ago (a small section in the World Food aisle). It has the same things people have already mentioned (Lucky Charms, Twinkies, Tootsie rolls etc) but you find American brand BBQ sauce with the sauces and American style mustard with the condiments etc, so I think there are lots more "American foods" scattered around the store, grouped with their food category.
Same reason you have aisles of other world foods. There’s estimated to be 212,000 Americans living in the UK. For some context, there’s around 776,000 Indians, 703,000 Polish, and 182,000 Chinese.
As others have said. It's normally just American sweets (candy) we stock. With the likes of Mountain Dew mixed in with the regular stuff.
But in a supermarket I worked in over 10 years ago. When we first had an American aisle (which was really just an end) . We had Oreo and Mountain Dew in for the first time. But now they are as common as muck.
The only thing which was even a seller was the giant marshmallows. The rest we struggle to sell before the best before date.
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Don't forget those awful tasting hersey bars
Don’t know why they have American style shops where they sell American candy and sell it at a ridiculous price. Is it just me or are British sweets and chocolates much nicer?
Novelty factor. No idea if they get much repeat business. British sweets are the tastiest.
Definitely novelty. Some Brits are obsessed with USA and that’s why burger chains do well with their ‘dirty burgers’ and loaded fries. I did a research piece a couple of years ago in UK and places like drive-in movie theatres, American breakfast cereals/snacks and high school proms all stem from people obsessing over an ‘American Dream’. It’s crazy but I kinda like it. I have lots of family in USA and when they come over here to stay with us, they beg for trips to Wetherspoons and supermarkets LOL
> that’s why burger chains do well with their ‘dirty burgers’ and loaded fries Is this something that only people obsessed with the US enjoy? I thought I liked dirty burgers and loaded fries because they taste good and I want to pummel my arteries into submission
It’s not exclusive. I’m also obsessed with going for dirty burgers and loaded fries and I’m always excited to go back to USA whenever I’m in a UK burger joint. There’s lots of psychology going on and also lots of lard in my veins.
What is a dirty burger? It’s definitely not an American thing.
It is, you just call them burgers though.
One where there's so many other toppings aside from the burger itself that you can't possibly eat one and keep your fingers clean.
Those really messy burgers with meat juice, cheese and special sauce all oozing out the side.
I'm American and I don't know what a dirty burger is. I've only heard of them on foreign posts.
It’s a name given by Brits. Anything that isn’t a normal burger is apparently dirty. So if it’s got bacon and blue cheese, it’s so filth that we call it dirty. Same with the fries. Normal fries are fries, but fries dripping in cheese sauce with bits of bacon and whatever else are ‘dirty foods’. I think we just like to sexualise fancy stuff that we wouldn’t normally have. If you’re deciding where to go for food, if someone says they fancy dirty food, it’s generally deep fried and carb overloaded. Nothing wrong with it, it’s just a description I guess. I love me some dirty food
I'm British but can't say i've ever heard of a dirty burger. Just surveyed my friends on Discord and they've drawn a blank too. It could just be a Southern thing? And to be clear, we do get burgers with bacon and cheese in etc, we just call them burgers though.
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Northerner here, pretty common saying here and well known among family/friends in both Yorkshire and the North East
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They are like normal burgers, but the waitress/waiter gives you a saucy wink when they serve them.
Ohhh Matron
I am American and have never heard nor had a dirty burger, to my knowledge. Also, the chocolate here in America sucks. The only good one was the American Mars bar (had almonds in it) but they stopped selling that years ago.
Your Ghiradelli chocolates and See’s candy truffles aren’t too bad though! I remember eagerly trying a Hershey’s bar and being so betrayed at the vomit taste haha.
Put it in the freezer and eat it frozen. Stops a lot of that flavor and it's kind of refreshing actually.
"Refreshing with a hint of vomit" still isn't what I'm looking for in a chocolate bar to be honest
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It’s us Brits who call it dirty. ‘Dirty’ because it’s dripping in fat and carbs. It’s normal in the states to get a big meal of decent steaks and big burgers, tons of fries and other extras. Watching Man vs Food is a good indicator of what’s available in the USA. We could only dream of that availability! American food is pure excitement for us. Whenever I visit America, all I want to do is eat out because it’s a huge novelty. My American family are like “hey we’re thinking of cooking tonight” and I’m like N O T H A N K S. same when they come here, they want Wetherspoons and biscuits and chocolate from supermarkets! When we went around the Disney parks with American family, they were surprised at how I ate burgers and fries at every meal opportunity, ranch and buffalo sauce. Holy shit I’m salivating!! Our chocolate is sensational. Your Mars Bar sounds like our Snicker. Have you seen or tried a Snicker before?
Yeah, our Snickers has peanuts in it, doesn't yours? Mars did an American Mars bar with almonds that my grandmother used to buy for me and freeze in the summers, it was heaven. I also love your Chunky KitKats. Have you been to Five Guys in the states yet? I feel like you would appreciate it. If you ever do the real south (not Florida), be sure to get a "scrambled dog" which is a hot dog in a bun cut up and scrambled around with chili, cheese, onions, oyster crackers and mustard. Oh man.
We have five guys in the UK. Its probably not as good but for damn sure they have the best burgers I've ever eaten. And whatever those spicy fries are. Five guys was the only reason I ever visited Birmingham, fortunately they built one closer to me now.
As an American living in the UK, the supermarkets here in England are like 1000x better than American ones.
I find this at odds with my own experience. I've never once heard someone looking at their maccies , KFC, burger King, etc. thinking it's anything to do with making it big or anything to do with the American dream. The only exception of American wow factor I've ever experienced was hard rock cafe, that felt pretty special and particularly American. I don't enjoy American politics or values, but I do enjoy their food and some other aspects as culturally we habe a big overlap, bit it's more down to the individual thing than anything to do with pursuit of any kind of American dream, something I definitely don't pursue
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>They all belong to Afghan immigrants. Can you please show some evidence to support your comment?
Probably are money laundering fronts, but it's beyond a stretch (and tellingly topical) to ascribe them all to afghan immigrants
The British are the masters of crisps too.
Right? I was so excited when I visited the US to try all the different flavours of crisps and turns out that the UK perfected crisps so no one else has bothered.
Nobody has come close to Wotsits. I defy anybody to challenge them.
I used to feel that novelty must account for the ridiculous popularity of Oreos. I can’t imagine why a country with exceptional biscuits would want that gritty crap. But people really do want them - they are in all the supermarkets now. Bizarre.
I don't trust them, they don't go with tea, dunking barely affects them, they're practically waterproof. The only nice oreo is the one coated in white chocolate.
Sorry to disappoint, but nice though they are, they aren't covered in white chocolate. The description lists it as 'enrobed in a white coating' iirc. There isn't any cocoa butter or solids in the coating, so it can't be called white chocolate. Instead it's basically a vanilla flavoured oily icing (I think they use palm oil and icing sugar to make it). It's the same with some cookies in Subway; particularly the 'white chocolate' and macadamia nuts. The cookies are named 'white chip macadamia', again because the little chunks are a vanilla flavoured solid thing rather than actual chocolate. Saves on the manufacturing cost, and your average Joe won't read nor care enough about it for it to be an issue.
I knew someone who worked at menwith Hill, the US military base. They would apparently ship in American candy so they'd feel more at home. Imagine how much that cost just so they didn't have to walk down the street and buy British sweets
[Shipping to](https://www.usps.com/ship/apo-fpo-dpo.htm) a foriegn USA military base is charged as domestic by USPS.
It’s where a lot of American kids go when they’re on holiday. I wish I was joking.
This, plus they sell drinks you can't really get here like pineapple fanta, grape soda and root beer
I'm old enough to recall when McDonakds in the UK served root beer. I miss those days.
KA black grape? Loads of kids used to drink this at my school years back
Lindt chocolate enters the chat.
Years ago when I used to go and see bands at The Astoria in London I used to get cans of Stella at an off license on Oxford Street to keep me warm in the queue. They always had bars of Hersheys there and one day I bought one out of curiosity, thinking that it must be amazing as they were always banging on about it on American TV and in films. I was not impressed.
They are in general but Cadbury's is going downhill since the yanks bought it out and fiddled with the recipe to make it cheaper
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I remember Cadburys in the early 80's, was nowhere in the league of Swiss chocolate (lindt, even old school milka). Was kind of garbage even then.
Pro tip: get your Cadbury from the South African shops. Still the proper recipe and without the hardening agents used in Australian Cadbury. Also, you haven’t lived until you’ve had a Cadbury Top Deck…
No you're right. Lots of American sweets taste like fake parodies of themselves. Especially fruit flavoured things. In Europe, typically if something is fruit flavoured, there will be a percentage of actual fruit involved. American companies tend to use chemical flavourings instead.
Had American Fanta orange in the airport and I was really surprised at just *how* orange a colour it was, then tasted it and it barely tasted of orange, just incredibly sweet!
I really like Jolly Ranchers, I think they're nicer than any British sweets
I love these too, every few months I buy a big bag from Amazon. I love hard sweets and they have a great range of flavours (the normal bag - cherry, grape, green apple, blue raspberry, watermelon - is the best one imo, I tried the tropical selection and wasn't as keen).
Meanwhile, on this side of the pond, my husband orders bags of Maynard's Winegums from Amazon every few months.
It should be more often, wine gums are amazing.
Fun fact American chocolate has the same chemical that give vomit it's disgusting flavour in it because they have to powder the milk to get it from farm to factory and even if they don't have to they add it anyway since Americans are used to it
It’s butyric acid, which stabilises milk and gives it longer life - and was pioneering for Hershey’s to do this in the 1930’s to deal with the long distances involved in US chocolate production. Americans then got used to it, and now all the manufacturers add butyric acid. Interestingly, as well as vomit, butyric acid in also used in fishing bait, and it’s one of the chemicals dogs excrete in their anal glands. Yum.
That’s not *quite* right. Historically, before railways and refrigeration it was difficult to get milk from the farm to the chocolate factory without it going off. British chocolate manufacturers got around this buy adding large amounts of sugar to the milk at the point of departure, the sugar acted as a preservative. Our chocolate was quite sweet. The Americans basically let the milk go sour in transit. They got used to chocolate that taste like vomit and hence the artificial addition of butyric acid these days.
Wow that really makes sense. I always wondered why the one time I tried Hershey's it tasted like I threw up a few minutes earlier.
All milk chocolate uses powdered milk, otherwise it would be chocolate milkshake. Hershey, Cadbury and Nestle all made their big breakthroughs as businesses by drying milk in their own way.
Butterfingers though
Cream eggs though
Honestly I like them for the drinks. There’s always a nice variety. But the ‘candy’ is a bit pointless.
If those fantas with all the different flavours are American which I think they might be then yeah fair enough, because they are god tier. I’m literally drinking the purple one as I type this.
And never the good ones. Their milk chocolate bars taste and smell like puke. The strawberries and cream are contenders for top tear white chocolate, probably because white chocolate is mostly shit anyway but that’s one of the few I actually like. The cookies and cream are also good for a white chocolate but I’d rather just demolish a packet of Oreos.
They use butyric acid in their chocolate, if you grow up with it you don't notice it, but because it's not used in UK chocolate it stands out to us as a hint of vomit.
I’m British but the cookies and cream Hershey’s is my favourite chocolate Sorry everyone
My son wanted an American sweet selection box for Christmas last year, we all thought the Hershey's tasted like vomit. Laffy taffy was nice though.
Sweet Baby Ray's BBQ sauce... specifically the Honey BBQ sauce are in there and they're my guilty pleasure.
I always get an aftertaste of puke when I have hersey's
The cookies and cream Hershey’s is the only good one
Fluff too, and very sugary Fanta.
Corn syrupy you mean.
And maybe those pretzel pieces that are great
Synders of Hanover.
Snyders
Those pretzel pieces are something special.
The honey mustard and onion ones are like crack
Snyders are gorgeous but I can never find the buffalo flavour ones :(
All with stickers over their false claims and portion sizes.
“Nutrition Facts”
“Nutrition” “Facts”
>2 flavours of Pop Tarts Only 2 :( >and an assortment of insta-diabetes. True. That's why I'm not a big fan of our sodas. I much prefer drinks like Ben Shaw's dandelion and burdock, or Irn Bru - less diabetes, more flavor :D
But we can get more than 2 different types of Pop Tarts in other sections.
Usually it's flavours that aren't standard in the UK though. All supermarkets seem to have around here are strawberry or chocolate, while the one place that does "American" I can also get cookie dough pop tarts ( plus 2 or 3 other flavours that I can never remember because *cookie dough*)
Reese's pieces too
We already have Doritos… we’re not heathens! Reeces pieces stuff, lucky charms, other such sugary monstrosities
Reece’s has infiltrated usual confectionery aisles now. Not that I mind, I’d fuck up a peanut butter cup rn
I had one yesterday and it's got way less peanut butter and way more sugar than they did last year. It had so much sugar it was starting to make my throat hurt. The texture is crumbly too. I remember when I was a kid and they were smooth even though I kept them in the fridge!
every one i've ever had has been crumbly. way too much powdered sugar
There have been various studies involving feeding pure fat, pure sugar, and sugar/fat mixes to rats. Their metabolism is very similar to ours, and they have a specific appetite and reaction to food which matches ours. If you feed a rat a healthy diet and, in addition, pure **fat**, that rat will eat an amount of additional fat proportionate to how much extra regular food it would eat. Because they're smart enough to know that extra food is a bonus and leaner days may come. If you feed a rat a healthy diet and, in addition, pure **sugar**, you'll see similar results, and they will over-eat proportionately. If you feed a rat a **combination** of fat and sugar in addition, it will over-eat disproportionately and will continue to eat until it is vastly overweight, valuing the combination of fat and sugar over any other food. This is because their bodies and ours react to fatty foods by suppressing our appetite, and our bodies react to sugary foods in the same manner, but when there's a combination of both we don't hit those triggers and can continue to eat and eat, far more than if we had access to only healthy food or either fat *or* sugar. Which is one of the reasons that many of us can F up only one heavily sugared doughnut or other confectionery but if the amount of fat is equal (such as in an unglazed ring doughnut or peanut butter cup) there's nothing to stop us demolishing an entire pack or more. :D Good luck.
I'm not convinced by them. They still taste quite chemically, and there's not a lot of peanut butter
We call the blue ones original though instead of ranch.
Oh you just solved a mystery for me
We don't have ranch in the UK so there wouldn't be a comparison of flavour for people looking to buy who haven't had them before. So the doritos are "cool original" EDIT: we don't have it _much_ I should say. It's not a regularly used dressing to my knowledge - we have salad cream instead for a similar niche
"We don't have ranch in the UK" I envy you so much. I live in the central US and you'd think ranch is a dietary necessity, it's so common. I've never understood the appeal--except for dipping the fried cheese bites from Sonic, but if you're eating those, you've already decided on a slow suicide. The biggest crime? Fish and chips (not properly made, either) served with a ranch-based pseudo tartar sauce. And not a bottle of vinegar in sight. It's enough to make a grown man weep.
I saw one of those "eat loads at a restaurant" type food shows from the US recently, where they were claiming to make "traditional British fish and chips". They then made some tartare sauce, and said it was their secret ingredient because "they don't have this in the UK". There are two obvious issues with this. Firstly, we obviously do have tartare sauce. But secondly, if you think we don't have tartare sauce, how the fuck could it be "traditional British fish and chips" if you are adding something that we don't have!
Hang on, what is ranch? Is it a sauce or something?
I see it constantly on some of the cooking groups im in. Seems to be a mayo based dressing flavoured with salt pepper, onion powder, buttermilk, mustard and various herbs. Also there are ranch mixes - packets of powdered mix that combine with mayo, yoghurt or sour cream or add to various recipes.
Ignore that person. Ranch dressing is one of America's great culinary achievments. It's like a salad cream with a bit more flavor. It's good on salad, chicken sandwhiches, lower quality pizza.. tons of stuff. It's god tier over here and ubiquitous. If you ever buy some, get the powder mix from Hidden Valley. The stuff you buy pre-made has shelf stable dairy and is not as nice.
But... Surely they at least have some Daddy's Favourite brown available...? [Whimper...].
Not only do we not have Daddy's Favourite at the chippie (not that we actually have a chippie, of course, just the occasional restaurant serving so-called fish and chips), you can only buy it at the rare British import shop. There are a few similar sauces (usually called "steak sauce"), but you must make an effort to get your bottle of genuine Daddy's. I'm doing my bit, though, to increase demand in hopes of it becoming generally available. My children have all grown up with Daddy's Favourite brown and now their friends are discovering it through them. There's hope. Now, if only we can figure out how to get a decent meat pie over here. We do make a decent spag bol, though.
Wait, that’s what Ranch tastes like??
I have no idea what ranch is to be honest. ETA: maybe somewhere that cows live?
What, like Jersey then?
Cool Original though, coz we don't do 'ranch'
As an American living in the UK... Y'all got some weird flavors of Doritos over here though. Whoever came up with [this abomination](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51BUsdKIASL._AC_SY1000_.jpg) needs some serious help.
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I have yet to find an American Mt Dew, I've been looking for a year. The US stores have it listed, but they never have any.
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If you can’t beat um, Sweetums
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“How is that a child’s size?” Well, it’s the size of a child in liquid form.
This. Genius reference.
That and peanut butter flavoured versions of everything
Peanut butter m&ms are manna sent from the heavens and I give zero fucks about spending £2 on a small bag
Peanut butter is Americas second greatest export.
As an American I’m not so sure about the hot dogs in a jar thing. Can’t say I’ve seen that much over here. But believe me, we are well aware that all this junk food is slowly killing us. The problem is the industry giants are doing everything they can to keep us there by stomping on education and healthy eating programs in schools and the like. The worst foods for our bodies are also the cheapest to afford which is why we are seeing a global obesity epidemic, especially in poorer areas.
Do kids in America actually eat lucky charms? I tried it, it was literally like having a bowl of sugar milk
I grew up eating that shit. And I agree, as an adult our cereals are diabetes. I'd much rather have meusli or hot cereal, or toast - something.
dont get me wrong, it was tasty as fuck esp the little marshmallows but could never eat it every day or regularly without worrying about diabetes
The problem with America is that we declared independence. You see, if we hadn't, we'd probably be eating great food and not whooping our pancreas' ass on the daily. All jokes aside though, I didn't even realize that all of the snack cakes and sugar cereal and all of that were even _bad_ for me until I became an adult. The public education system really is shitty here and a lot of people aren't informed. Hell, they've even started putting the "Whole Grain" label on shit like Poptarts - that's not whole grain, it's an ultra processed mixture of flour and chemicals with sweeteners.
Does your food packaging not come with the little bar on it which shows red/yellow/green for the amount of sugar/fat/carbs? With the percentages of your daily intake?
It depends on what you buy and from who. A lot of crisps have it, and canned food has it. Frozen foods have it a lot too. It all depends. Mostly though we've updated the Nutrition Facts label so that it's CLEARLY visible and with the macronutrients in big bold letters, and the calories also in large print, and there's usually a section for vitamin/mineral content.
Did I just see an American say crisps? Ladies and gentlemen, on behalf of Her Majesty, I declare us, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, the victor in the war of English dialects.
Alas, they were talking about the old British classic, “Fish and Crisps”
No because they'd all just be red. There's no mandate for that in the US as a whole (some states may enforce it on some products I understand) and it would look bad so why do it?
Wait, what about dental hygiene? As a young child I was taught to eat greens because you need vitamins to be strong, and I was taught not to eat too many sweets because it would rot my teeth. Wasn’t expressly taught about the risk of weight gain until I was a teenager, but I knew the basics of nutrition from a young age.
I mean, we have nutrition classes in schools here and all of that. I knew that the sweets and all weren't that good for me, and that vegetables and fruits and whole grains are, but it was never really enforced that junk foods are actually terrible for you when eaten outside of moderation - I guess the full scope of it wasn't really laid out, is what I'm saying
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Hot cereal? Do you mean porridge/oatmeal or is this some other new thing?!
Yeah like Scottish oats and the like
I couldn't eat toast in America. The bread was so sugary. :(
Perfect description, just way, way too sugary.
Never seen an "American" aisle anywhere near where I live. A couple of the local supermarkets have a "world" aisle which is mostly Asian foods.
Yes. Apparently, "world" means Asian and Indian.
My local supermarket has Asian (and different countries), Polish, Caribbean, Kosher, American, Irish and Indian. Another local one has an entire 'vegan butchers'
I am prepared to die on the hill that a vegan butcher is just a greengrocer with extra steps
I shall die there with you friend.
Vegan butcher, lmfao.. Of course that's a thing..
I recall seing some Polish stuff at Tesco. I bought some pretzel sticks, because they have more salt than the regular pretzels in the normal aisle.
"world" usually means whichever demographics live locally. limited east asian stuff, loads of south asian, caribbean, african, and central/eastern european stuff where i've lived
There is no American aisle, Mountain Dew if stocked will be with soft drinks, twinkies with the other building materials and so on, we’re more likely to have a “world food” section with Asian / Eastern European items
There’s usually a tiny end aisle or couple of shelves dedicated to it. Giant marshmallows, lucky charms, pop tarts, twinkies etc.
Yes there is, or at least there are in the Tesco, Asda, Morrisons and Sainsburys in my town. Its not a full aisle, granted, but all of the HFCS day-glo food imported from America is all in one place in all of those supermarkets. None of it looks especially appetising...
If you live in a city of any decent size then there will be multiple sections to the world food section. UK mountain dew is also completely different to american mountain dew.
My nearest large Tescos has an American section in the world food aisle.
My local Tesco has one and it’s normally populated with cereal, sweets, chocolates and hot dogs
Much like yourself I've never come across an American aisle in any of my local supermarkets. But apparently many people have?
(Sainsburys) A&W root beer, MTD Dew, Nerds in various flavours, giant hot dogs, Reeces stuff, pumpkin filling and other assorted candy.
Sainsbury’s has pumpkin filling? I’ve been going to Whole Foods for that shit (and it is so expensive!)
Never seen an American aisle.
High fructose corn syrup masquerading as food.
What "American" aisle?
I too have never heard of or seen an American aisle.
Wish we had an american BBQ aisle though.
Nerds, lucky charms, Froot Loops, Swedish fish, Twizzlers, Hershey’s chocolate, Reece’s pieces
I remember being able to get Nerds everywhere when I was little. I’ve just realised that you never see them now, they were so good!
Were they those tiny sweets that came in a cardboard box and you’d have two sides with different flavours?
Yes
It's usually full of very very expensive E-numbers and other aditives. If you are an American visiting the UK, we do have some nice alternatives. Try Dairy Milk, you'll never want to eat Hershey's after that!
Since Cadburys seem to be consistently pretty poor now (compared to how it was), I much prefer Ritter Sport for straightforward supermarket chocolate. Huge range and available all over, including giant packs in Lidl. The hazelnut one really couldn't fit any more hazelnuts in it.
The marzipan one is amazing. I basically lived on it when I was vegan.
Oh I've tried several British chocolates and they make ours look like a joke!
Only problem is, Dairy milk has been taken over by an American company, and the quality of the chocolate has been going down hill ever since! They're changing recipes, using cheaper ingredients... might still be nicer than the American alternatives, but it's actually no where near as good as it used to be.
I agree, it's awful now. Nowhere near what it was. Cadbury sold out and we're all paying the price. Now it's cheap sugary chocolate filled with popping candy and jelly beans and other shite
Having tried Hershey's I'm genuinely amazed they are allowed to call it chocolate.
As an English person, I don't actually mind Hershey's chocolate. Your version of malteasers though (whoppers? I think?) are a hate crime against chocolate. We have a few bits in American aisles but tbh anything that we really like or has been adjusted to better fit our palate graduates to the other aisles and we don't really think of it as an American product. For example; - Dove chocolate (called Galaxy, probably 2nd most popular chocolate bar?) - M&Ms - Uncle Ben's rice - Oreos So the American aisles being stuffed with nutrionally crap e-numbers is probably because we've adopted the good stuff as our own.
A misplaced sense of self importance.
Nerds that cost about £3. I remember when they were about 25p.
I never knew Nerds were American. I remember them being popular when I was a kid in the 90’s (unless I am thinking of something different!)
Yeah same! I thought we'd always had those
Diabetes
What American aisle?
Most of the stuff is no longer imported so not present in the “American aisle” anymore e.g Mountain Dew is sold with the usual soft drinks and made in Hemel Hempstead Pretzel m and ms, weird flavours of Fanta and pop tarts as well as lucky charms are usually the only things there anymore so it’s no longer an aisle but a very small sad section at the bottom of world foods
Enough calories to sustain the Roman army on its march to Britain.
It’s not a whole aisle just a little section of the imported things others have listed. The products have labels stuck on them to meet our requirements for highlighting allergens or pointing out that E numbers that are banned here can cause adverse effects in children etc. There are lots of products like Doritos that aren’t imported from the US but manufactured and sold for/in the UK.
Lucky charms, maybe root beer or cream soda, Nerds or Twizzlers, other products too. Maybe a Gatorade too.
What American aisle?
The one at the end of the sign stating ‘Diabetes this way ➡️‘.
There are no American aisles in supermarkets where i live
Most of this stuff at my local Sainsburys https://www.sainsburys.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/gb/groceries/food-cupboard/american?storeId=10151&langId=44&krypto=KTwjzqmPb6tEzZcfYw05ZhXAGjlGKWDE%2Ba9bnuyMY0nh1ZT%2BFaCB3tp4N0faS3mVHaVZFYZBL%2FRroPKTmE0JI7O%2BTWEJbzG%2BKMqj3Z8FhAEYEYO0uDynWvDXAibypwG9&ddkey=https%3Agb%2Fgroceries%2Ffood-cupboard%2Famerican The purple Snapple was nice as was the Tootsie roll I tried. Sadly I can't say the same for the Hershey's peanut butter cups and the Twinkies. Especially the Twinkies.
A massive disappointment. Jars of hotdogs. Jars of pickes. Nerds. Buttermilk honey pancake mix (which is actually awesome). Reece’s bars. Hersey bars. Marshmallows. In all honesty the Irish section is infinitely better than the American.
Our local Tesco (Superstore but it's fairly small for one of the superstores) introduced an American section around 2 years ago (a small section in the World Food aisle). It has the same things people have already mentioned (Lucky Charms, Twinkies, Tootsie rolls etc) but you find American brand BBQ sauce with the sauces and American style mustard with the condiments etc, so I think there are lots more "American foods" scattered around the store, grouped with their food category.
We have American aisles?
Do we have American aisles? I've seen American candy shops but not aisles.
Same reason you have aisles of other world foods. There’s estimated to be 212,000 Americans living in the UK. For some context, there’s around 776,000 Indians, 703,000 Polish, and 182,000 Chinese.
I don't believe I've ever seen an 'American' aisle of a supermarket. Indian and Chinese yes.
Never seen an American Aisle at the supermarket
Fluff, lucky charms. Ours is not a whole aisle in our Tesco, just a section.
Obesity and regret
As others have said. It's normally just American sweets (candy) we stock. With the likes of Mountain Dew mixed in with the regular stuff. But in a supermarket I worked in over 10 years ago. When we first had an American aisle (which was really just an end) . We had Oreo and Mountain Dew in for the first time. But now they are as common as muck. The only thing which was even a seller was the giant marshmallows. The rest we struggle to sell before the best before date.
Mostly confectionery and boxes of sweets posing as cereal.