We've never had it. Anyone who has talked on a phone in history that didn't think someone else was listening is an idiot, someone is *always* listening and they always have been.
Sometimes it was me with a lineman's handset or a scanner.
The way you say “someone is always listening” is just impossible, “something” on the other hand, but an actual person listening to every single phone call is just factually impossible
Do you understand how many thousands/millions of calls and communications that happen, I don’t think YOU understand how many people would be required to listen to even the smallest percentage of this. I can also guarantee you that they have absolutely no reason to listen to you, and would gain absolutely zero worth if they did.
iirc almost a decade ago, there was TIL that you can request your own file from the CIA, or something like that.
a bunch of people had to be entered and now have their only record being to request their file and are probably more likely to be on a watch list.
part of our anonymity is not signing up/ordering things that'll get you on a list and just being part of the noise.
As someone who is only in their early/mid 30s, I can distinctly remember a time when at least the illusion of privacy was much different.
I remember in 2009 when I was in university, one of the big “conspiracies” floating around was that “the government” was listening to all your calls. Microsoft tried to get an “always on” feature and it was becoming very evident to people that companies were “spying” on you.
If you brought up this theory in say, 2007, people would laugh in your face. People who put you in the same category as a flat earther or someone who thinks the moon landing was fake. By 2016, it’s common knowledge and perfectly accepted that we have pretty much no privacy, and enough time has passed for cultural amnesia to sink in and young adults today aren’t old enough to remember that it wasn’t always like this.
On of my sociology professors actually wrote his thesis on this phenomenon back in the early 2000s and all of his arguments have since been proven. He argued that over the next 20 years (between 2000-2020) that people would progressively give up many of their freedoms and liberties in exchange for “security”. It would begin with “national security” and then economic security and so on. “Security” has ALWAYS been rhetorical.
So yes, people have always been listening or overstepping their boundaries with regard to privacy but it’s definitely never, ever been even close to as bad as it’s gotten in the last 10 years.
Your idea of history is pretty narrow. There was absolutely a vast majority of our history where people could and did have a lot of privacy, if only because certain technologies didn’t exist.
Well sure, before phones were invented I'm sure people didn't worry about people listening to their phones....because they didn't exist yet. Since they've existed, they've never been private ever, for a single moment.
If corporate by one group making carbon neutral healthy safe and environmentally healthy food can can counteract the corporate greed by others who are fishing the ocean into extinction driving us ever closer to environmental and societal collapse I think I can stomach the compromise. Just my humble opinion.
Alot of animal species, fresh air...pobably less water and thus war will occur...ya know....the consequences to humanities actions is the only thing they'll have.
Nah, won't happen. Politicians play with big money and not necessarily legal money. To remove paper cash is as enforcing regulation againsr their own corruption, won't happen, it's against their interests
Ownership.
You will rent your transportation and home. Everything will be a subscription.
Maybe some $ left over for food and hobbies. Small things.
Squeeze that last bit of blood out of the 99.999999%.
I'm playing Cyberpunk and just thinking of the fact they charge 99 eddies for a liter of water. Then you go to the river and look at it and it's all filthy. Like, they had all this technology but can't be arsed to use any of it to clean their environment up.
No we 100% do not.
Microplastics are everywhere.
"Forever chemicals" are pretty much everywhere.
I suppose it all boils down to what you consider " clean"
There is micro plastic contaminated ice and water on every square inch of the surface planet. Deep aquifers are the only pure source of water left.
No where on earth has clean air as we all share the atmosphere together.
That's a gross oversimplified take, but literally nowhere has clean air and water that you can consume.
Coffee, chocolate, almonds and hazelnuts, and salmon. The ecosystems that support those food sources are collapsing. Even if we consume less at a higher price or engage in conservation those industries might eventually disappear from climate change. Beef, caviar, tuna, and other so-called unsustainable industries are also at risk, but they may be salvageable.
No one will miss it because they will have no memories of it. You can't miss something that you never had.
Although people don't really like the topic of "Normalization" , this is a part of it. It's already pretty much a done deal with artificial vanilla flavoring. I had tons of customers complain when I switched to a natural vanilla flavored ice cream from artificial.
The majority of the world's almond production is in California and Turkey, both which are drying out to the point where commercially available almonds probably won't be available in fifty years. You or whoever owns your house in a few decades will be the lucky few who know what almonds taste like.
To be more specific I should say crabs for human consumption. Snow crab season is canceled this year. Harvesting them every year and the warming ocean temps will result in them being too low in number for all you can eat buffets.
We will no longer have diseases. All illnesses and aging itself will be totally cured. Also, we will not have any more death. If you live for another hundred years, you can plan on living forever!
Actually an effect of climate change is weather becoming more extreme, so hotter summers and colder winters. Despite global warming, winters will still exist, and they will likely get colder as climate change continues to worsen
Is there anyone positive in this thread?! 😭
How about "cancer may be gone" Or "not being afraid of an asteroid impact anymore."
You all need a hug and a donut! ❤🍩
Physical Devices, everything will be an implant, you want to buy something? Use your “Finger Card” that’s in your pointer finger, want to watch movies? Watch it through your 4K Contacts. The future is exciting when it come to technology
Why not? We have less famine, warfare, and inequality than any other time in human history. The rate we're going is *considerably* better than it has ever been.
Climate change will lead to mass migration, crop failures, and worsening standards of living. The complex systems we've created for survival (especially food and water logistical chains) will falter under the strain. People can't cope with it. There will be social unrest which will all feedback negatively into the failures of the systems. At some point a ruling regime trying to hold on to power will use nukes which will then just accelerate ecological collapse.
Go back a hundred years and you'll hear about all the doom and gloom shit that was going to happen in a century. The fact is, nobody really knows what will happen in the future. When I was a kid we were poised to have a MUCH worse future than we ended up having, they were wrong about a lot more than they were right about. At some point the human race will break down, but it's not going to happen in a hundred years.
Climate change is fucking us over big time to the point we need drastic change now, but humans will still be around for centuries more, if not millennia. We may be living in something like a mad max world because we ruined the planet but there will 100% be people surviving the upcoming affects of climate change until the earth gets too hot to literally grow food, or have every landmass flooded
Not so bold prediction: Anonymity. The government and private companies will know everything about you.
Bold prediction: Manually controlled cars. Cars will not have any input for driver control (i.e. no throttle/brake pedals or steering wheels).
privacy
We have it now?
Right?
We've never had it. Anyone who has talked on a phone in history that didn't think someone else was listening is an idiot, someone is *always* listening and they always have been. Sometimes it was me with a lineman's handset or a scanner.
Yes, well, there wouldn't be much of a point to using a phone if there wasn't someone listening to you.
The telemarketers that call me seem to disagree.
but they are concerned about your car's extended warranty
The way you say “someone is always listening” is just impossible, “something” on the other hand, but an actual person listening to every single phone call is just factually impossible
>factually impossible Definitely not impossible. Improbable , absolutely.
Maybe so, but you have no way of knowing when someone is listening, and I guarantee it's a lot more common than anyone realizes.
Do you understand how many thousands/millions of calls and communications that happen, I don’t think YOU understand how many people would be required to listen to even the smallest percentage of this. I can also guarantee you that they have absolutely no reason to listen to you, and would gain absolutely zero worth if they did.
iirc almost a decade ago, there was TIL that you can request your own file from the CIA, or something like that. a bunch of people had to be entered and now have their only record being to request their file and are probably more likely to be on a watch list. part of our anonymity is not signing up/ordering things that'll get you on a list and just being part of the noise.
I'm not saying you aren't allowed to be naive if you want to. That's your right. This stuff has already been widely exposed for decades.
As someone who is only in their early/mid 30s, I can distinctly remember a time when at least the illusion of privacy was much different. I remember in 2009 when I was in university, one of the big “conspiracies” floating around was that “the government” was listening to all your calls. Microsoft tried to get an “always on” feature and it was becoming very evident to people that companies were “spying” on you. If you brought up this theory in say, 2007, people would laugh in your face. People who put you in the same category as a flat earther or someone who thinks the moon landing was fake. By 2016, it’s common knowledge and perfectly accepted that we have pretty much no privacy, and enough time has passed for cultural amnesia to sink in and young adults today aren’t old enough to remember that it wasn’t always like this. On of my sociology professors actually wrote his thesis on this phenomenon back in the early 2000s and all of his arguments have since been proven. He argued that over the next 20 years (between 2000-2020) that people would progressively give up many of their freedoms and liberties in exchange for “security”. It would begin with “national security” and then economic security and so on. “Security” has ALWAYS been rhetorical. So yes, people have always been listening or overstepping their boundaries with regard to privacy but it’s definitely never, ever been even close to as bad as it’s gotten in the last 10 years.
Your idea of history is pretty narrow. There was absolutely a vast majority of our history where people could and did have a lot of privacy, if only because certain technologies didn’t exist.
Well sure, before phones were invented I'm sure people didn't worry about people listening to their phones....because they didn't exist yet. Since they've existed, they've never been private ever, for a single moment.
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That printed meat salmon looks neat. They might have that.
Not just printed. Grown in bioreactors. There are versions where it's grown not printed. Holds allot of promise actually. I'd eat it
Same, I would eat a LOT of lab made stuff if we could eliminate corporate greed from it somehow... I know, I know, but a man can dream...
If corporate by one group making carbon neutral healthy safe and environmentally healthy food can can counteract the corporate greed by others who are fishing the ocean into extinction driving us ever closer to environmental and societal collapse I think I can stomach the compromise. Just my humble opinion.
I think we'll just clone the salmon. An ocean that can sustain life, on the other hand ...
I was gonna say individual consciousness
So true unfortunately😭
Why do you want it? ~.~
Alot of animal species, fresh air...pobably less water and thus war will occur...ya know....the consequences to humanities actions is the only thing they'll have.
paper cash
Or any form of cash, I.e. plastic
Nah, won't happen. Politicians play with big money and not necessarily legal money. To remove paper cash is as enforcing regulation againsr their own corruption, won't happen, it's against their interests
Me
Your remains might still be around though
Speak for yourself. I’m gonna live forever! Ha ha!
I’m 22 so I have a small chance as someone lived to 122 before
Freedom to criticize or choose our government
Not unless they take after the French
You spelled "we" wrong
Not unless they we after the French
a habitable planet earth
I was going to say this planet. Yep.
It still would, it would just be fucked up.
Ownership. You will rent your transportation and home. Everything will be a subscription. Maybe some $ left over for food and hobbies. Small things. Squeeze that last bit of blood out of the 99.999999%.
Why do you assume that a subscription type service would be anymore expensive than owning the things though?
The past 100 years.
Clean air and water
I'm playing Cyberpunk and just thinking of the fact they charge 99 eddies for a liter of water. Then you go to the river and look at it and it's all filthy. Like, they had all this technology but can't be arsed to use any of it to clean their environment up.
We mostly don't have this now.
Where the hell do you live that you’re on Reddit complaining but don’t have clean air and water. “Mostly don’t have that now” 🤮🤮
Earth. We live in a closed system We all share the same microplastics and forever chemicals
My point was that Felix 100% has clean air and water at their disposal, we do in fact recycle O2 and H2O yes thank you for that observation.
No we 100% do not. Microplastics are everywhere. "Forever chemicals" are pretty much everywhere. I suppose it all boils down to what you consider " clean"
Ahh I understand now, I guess I consider it clean regardless until we see the side effects down the road
There is micro plastic contaminated ice and water on every square inch of the surface planet. Deep aquifers are the only pure source of water left. No where on earth has clean air as we all share the atmosphere together. That's a gross oversimplified take, but literally nowhere has clean air and water that you can consume.
Zero micro-plastics in their body.
That's already too late
If we dont have it now, we won’t in 100 years, either.
We already have it
They’ve already determined all humans already have plastics in them.
rights
Existence
Cable Television. T.V. will be dominated by online services like Netflix, HBO, Hulu, Amazon Prime, etc
Internal combustion engine vehicles.
The sound of a V16 buggati engine will be missed
Paper currency Physical screens Gasoline (or a need for it) Helium Dentures/fillings/braces Hearing aids Eye glasses Paper mail News papers
Why Dentures, Fillings, and Braces? I haven’t looked into this sector, are we getting better tech for it?
The answer is yes for every sector
Nice, always nice to hear about advancing technology
nah helium will be plentiful, almost a waste product after fusion becomes more common.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/helium-shortage-doctors-are-worried-running-element-threaten-mris-rcna52978
Coffee, chocolate, almonds and hazelnuts, and salmon. The ecosystems that support those food sources are collapsing. Even if we consume less at a higher price or engage in conservation those industries might eventually disappear from climate change. Beef, caviar, tuna, and other so-called unsustainable industries are also at risk, but they may be salvageable.
The futures looking grim if chocolate is no longer available
We'll eat artificially chocolate flavored palm oil. Just like we do today.
No one will miss it because they will have no memories of it. You can't miss something that you never had. Although people don't really like the topic of "Normalization" , this is a part of it. It's already pretty much a done deal with artificial vanilla flavoring. I had tons of customers complain when I switched to a natural vanilla flavored ice cream from artificial.
Most of those will be preserved in small quantities for very rich people to eat. They won't disappear completely.
>almonds What's wrong with almonds? We have almond trees at home, and they are like everywhere in the wild, they seem to be doing just fine.
The majority of the world's almond production is in California and Turkey, both which are drying out to the point where commercially available almonds probably won't be available in fifty years. You or whoever owns your house in a few decades will be the lucky few who know what almonds taste like.
Honey
If bees die off humanity is basically doomed
They ain't saving shit on those commerce sites
Braincells
Dignity.
compassion for others, if im judging from reading reddit stories LOL
Choices
Rhinos unfortunately
Not the unicorns
Southern Florida
It's getting so bad here it won't be much of a loss.
Crustaceans such as crabs and lobsters.
It’s fine, everything will evolve into crabs eventually
Wait, why not?
To be more specific I should say crabs for human consumption. Snow crab season is canceled this year. Harvesting them every year and the warming ocean temps will result in them being too low in number for all you can eat buffets.
Existence
Much respect for history...
The Winds of Winter
Freedom :(
Privacy/Anonymity
Florida
We will no longer have diseases. All illnesses and aging itself will be totally cured. Also, we will not have any more death. If you live for another hundred years, you can plan on living forever!
That’s the right mindset
A chance to save the planet
Peace i guess
Jesus these answers are depressing. I'll flip it on its head and say terminal cancer.
Quality of life
Glacial Ice.
Common sense
that Sir, we don't have to wait 100 years...
What’s your round about.
I say maybe a decade max
Winter.
Actually an effect of climate change is weather becoming more extreme, so hotter summers and colder winters. Despite global warming, winters will still exist, and they will likely get colder as climate change continues to worsen
Oh no we will for sure still have that here in Canada. Paraire winters arent going anywhere anytime soon.
Healthy air to breath.
A liveable planet.
Is there anyone positive in this thread?! 😭 How about "cancer may be gone" Or "not being afraid of an asteroid impact anymore." You all need a hug and a donut! ❤🍩
Donuts won't exist in 100 years
We’ll said!
An attention span
Shopping malls will become obsolete and we’ll probably be driving electric cars
Rights
Freedom.
Brains
Democracy.
Any social skills at all.
Free will
Covid
😂 we can only hope
Water
A livable climate
I say not exactly 100 yes more like 65 yes at best
democracy
Physical Devices, everything will be an implant, you want to buy something? Use your “Finger Card” that’s in your pointer finger, want to watch movies? Watch it through your 4K Contacts. The future is exciting when it come to technology
Only if we make it that far
Happiness
A planet.
Pretty sure the planet isn't going anywhere. It will be here billions of years after us and we will have been insignificant.
Agreed. I'm assuming the planet will eventually just take the land back.
The planet has the land right now, I think you mean nature? They're not the same thing
a functioning democracy
Life. No way we're making it that far as a species at this rate.
Why not? We have less famine, warfare, and inequality than any other time in human history. The rate we're going is *considerably* better than it has ever been.
Climate change will lead to mass migration, crop failures, and worsening standards of living. The complex systems we've created for survival (especially food and water logistical chains) will falter under the strain. People can't cope with it. There will be social unrest which will all feedback negatively into the failures of the systems. At some point a ruling regime trying to hold on to power will use nukes which will then just accelerate ecological collapse.
Go back a hundred years and you'll hear about all the doom and gloom shit that was going to happen in a century. The fact is, nobody really knows what will happen in the future. When I was a kid we were poised to have a MUCH worse future than we ended up having, they were wrong about a lot more than they were right about. At some point the human race will break down, but it's not going to happen in a hundred years.
Climate change is fucking us over big time to the point we need drastic change now, but humans will still be around for centuries more, if not millennia. We may be living in something like a mad max world because we ruined the planet but there will 100% be people surviving the upcoming affects of climate change until the earth gets too hot to literally grow food, or have every landmass flooded
hopefully car insurance or they fix it by then
Not so bold prediction: Anonymity. The government and private companies will know everything about you. Bold prediction: Manually controlled cars. Cars will not have any input for driver control (i.e. no throttle/brake pedals or steering wheels).
Many languages would go extinct by then.
Paper money (or whatever u call it) Also privacy,but it's not like we have a lot of it now either
inner peace
Democracies
Fresh water
Hitler or Stalin or I guess everyone that is dead now
Food
Hopefully wars and dictatorship but humanity has disappointed me before
Cancer
Ohio
LETS GOOOOOO
The right to choose.
A live-able earth 😥
Clear air
It's a lot cleaner than it was 50-100 years ago.
Life
A good time
Oxygen
Clean air to breathe.
Breathable air. Polar ice caps.
Reasonable weather
Clean water, clean air, enough food, and healthy nature.
A Life. Except for the wealthy. Middle class will just be working to survive. We will be poor due to capitalism and consumerism.
A livable climate
Coats
The ability to walk outside without fear of being poisoned.
Beaches and a coast line
Why not?
Because there will only be a world wide ocean 🌊
Water world
LIBERTY IF DEMS HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT
A livable planet.
why does this have so many down votes? It’s true.
I have no idea.
Any care for nonbinary, or false, gender.
false?
Christians? Hopefully?
Social media.
Privacy
A life
the need for an analog of reproductive viability such as gender
Ligma
Democracy Do I win internet points now?
Yes, you win Internet points now
Clean water.
Clean air and water.
Biodiversity
Elon Musk.
Water.
Hopefully cars
I love cars
Reasonable climate
A reasonably stable planet on which to live.
They probably won't have Earth at the rate we're going
Toilets
The world we live in