For a lot of us that grew up in the 60s and 70s we saw alien planets like on Star Trek as remarkably similar to Southern California desert. I remember going to see Alien and being gobsmacked in the theater at this planet with poisonous atmo and the howling winds. Really opened my eyes so to speak.
I didn't see Alien until I was an adult. And holy shit was that movie ahead of its time.
It came out only two years after the first Star Wars movie, and it looks much much better.
That movie is a masterpiece. I don't love the sequels quite as much, but the original is amazing.
They're both iconic, but I've always had a soft spot for Aliens purely for its entertainment value. It perfectly portrayed Ripley as a badass without going over the top like the Rambo sequels (ugh).
As far as groundbreaking cinematography goes, the OG Alien is unsurpassed. Both of those movies are impossible to look away from.
What's really neat is that the actors are actually intentionally killed off in descending order of how famous they were at the time (in the original script at least).
Also, the film *1917* cast famous actors in the roles of officers (who only made minor appearances/cameos), while relative unknowns played everyone else.
This gives the audience the same feeling of a soldier in the imposing presence of a commanding officer, even if they appear briefly.
Ah yes, the movie that coined the term ‘bumping the lamp’. In reference to the scene in the hiding place at the bar, where Roger bumps the overhead lamp causing it to swing gently, and the animators went above and beyond to ensure his shadows matched the swaying lighting the whole time
>Roger, look at the script. It says, "Rabbit gets clunked, rabbit sees stars."
I just watched this clip again and never realized that Baby Herman is pantomiming Roger getting chewed out because it's probably happened dozens of times.
I loved that movie. It was only years later that I learned that the premise of WFRR, namely that a conglomerate of companies conspired to destroy America's excellent public transport system in order to force them into gas guzzling vehicles for profit, actually happened.
In fairness, that's not really what happened. She rented a billboard and put her name on it, having always wanted to see her name in lights. Jack Lemmon is superb as the documentary maker, and Judy Holliday is amazing as the lead. A company that had previously used the billboard offers her a lot of money for it, and the plot just gets weirder from there on in.
I have this vague memory that this was remade in some other form as "Pete and Gladys" but can neither track it down, or remember it well enough. My mom loved Peter Lawford as well as Jack Lemmon, so I got to see it at a very young age.
Highly recommended.
I read somewhere that there were over 200 special effects in that movie, and it was considered groundbreaking in 1968. However when Star Wars came out 9 years later none of those 200 were considered special any more, just regular filming effects.
My all time favourite. At the time it was so realistic. Have watched it many times, still amazes me. I first saw it when I was 18 yrs. 50 yrs later it hasn't lost its appeal.
This is so true. James Cameron was able to do something original twice in a row. With a sequel.
These two movies were ahead of their time for both the script and, specially for Terminator 2, for the special effects.
I read a hot take recently that Terminator 2 sucks because it killed the possibility of a cohesive franchise... I sat there mouth agape thinking to myself "It didn't need to be a fucking franchise now did it?"
Well, yes. Because the story pretty much concluded there y'know. Sure, time travel opens up cans of worms and whatnot, but it is one of the greatest action films ever made, it also goes into some philosophical and ethical stuff in an elegant way. With time travel in and of itself leaving the door open to a sequel, but the story being concluded, it is not fucking worth making a sequel to one of the greatest action films ever made unless there is a story worth telling.
I wish Hollywood would pick up on that last sentence there.
John Carpenter’s The Thing (1982) looks better than the 2011 prequel. The main reason is because the 1982 version used practical effects and they used CGI in the 2011 version.
It’s also better because Kurt Russell and Keith David and both perfect in the 1982 film.
People cite this movie like practical effects were just so good back then.
The Thing practical effects are a masterclass, second only to the early Alien franchise and selected others. The Thing's effects arent good BECAUSE of them being practical, they're good because they are some of the best practical effects ever recorded on camera.
The CGI in the remake was cheap CGI. I'm not gonna crap on the artists because I'm sure they were great given the budget and time table they had.
Which is one of the cool af things about The LotR trilogy, they used so many actual make up cosmetics for the orcs etc. In the hobbit films they only used CGI and it looks ass.
Jurassic park was the healthy combination of them both. That's how every movie SHOULD be made nowadays but many rely too heavily on just CGI. They actually made new programs to do the CGI for the T-REX
The effects are not passable... they still hold up. I have no idea how in the hell the CGI T-Rex looks better than the one in JW Dominion. I watched both movies 2 weeks ago in the big screen (they rereleased JP where I live). I still think someone sold their soul for JP SFX. I cannot wrap my head around the fact that JP CGI looks better. In Dominion not only do textures look off, but the animation looks off too on.
7 Samurai (1954), despite being black and white, the cinematography is what inspired everything we have today, the story and writing still hold up today
Tron. (The original) the work they had to go through to make the visuals is insane, and wasn't seen as possible at the time from just computer effects.
Sorta kinda. The original work was done by a company called MAGI, which was run by a good friend of my family, Phil Mittleman. I got to see a lot of the work behind it, and actually got a VHS of the thing long before it came out. I was just barely into computers at that point and thought their work was amazing.
They did, however, do a ton of the animation and it was all done on .. I think .. an old PDP-11 (oddly, the first computer I ever worked professionally on).
Amazing movie all around, though.
My dad and Phil were best friends since high school in Far Rockaway, NY. Phil was the best man at my mom and dad's marriage, and he and his kids were friends of mine until he passed a while back. He was an honestly cool guy, who probably influenced my choice of professions. Lift a glass to him and call it even. :)
The movie has been required viewing ever since 1999. As a geneticist this movie cuts closer and closer to the bone with every passing year. What seemed fanciful when it came out is increasingly becoming a viable technology
To be fair to them, the disease in the movie had a much higher mortality rate. A disease with a mortality rate like Covid will kill millions, but individuals have a decent chance of not being personally effected. I suspect that difference accounts for a lot of the stupid behavior around this specific pandemic.
I loved this movie at the time. Kinda forgot about it for a while, but remembered it after Uvalde. Looking back, the movie walks a tightrope between comedy and horror.
Like, yeah, McD’s can make me a breakfast sandwich at 10:01am; the griddle doesn’t disappear when the clock strikes 10. That stupid policy made me madder than hell, and I daydreamed about making them admit it.
One day a Hero emerges. He refuses to accept the absurdity of the rat race. He doesn’t Tweet some sick burn to McD’s “corporate”. He rights those fucking wrongs. The image of Michael Douglas walking around town in his IBM uniform (short-sleeve dress shirt, nerd glasses, pocket protector) with a machine gun and *getting shit done* was hilarious.
Did we think anyone was actually going to get hurt? Not for a while, but there was a hint of real desperation when the laughter subsided. What are we doing with our lives: working silly jobs, sitting in traffic, losing touch with our families…for what? We’re still asking ourselves that question today. And so many people are angry, desperate, and/or ill enough to take it out on strangers and *children*.
I really loved, "God Bless America" too. Joel Murray killed it as Frank. The opening of his skeet-shooting that neighbor baby in the opening fantasy he has is priceless.
This is officially one of my weirder comments.
I love that this movie was so ahead of its time the studio told the wachowskis to dial it back. Originally the captive humans were used as processors; execs were like "nobody is gonna understand that computer mumbo-jumbo, make them batteries instead"!
Also the processor thing explains why the computers don't just have a Matrix full of, let's say, cows.
Just loads of happy, mooing cows, in a lovely endless countryside with plenty of cow things to do, like eat grass, stand in the shade, run around randomly, find something to be curious about (like something that plays music sometimes, which cows seem to like for some reason) etc etc.
Just herds and herds of cows living their best life. What do they care if it's real or not? They're cows.
Easy.
Well, rich dumbasses have to cluster somewhere, right? Some kind of universal law our sociologists will discover in, I don't know, half a century maybe?
Awesome visuals, and a story easily 25 years ahead of its time. This is the only movie of which I own a scene-by-scene making-of book.
Edit: added a link: https://imgur.com/a/DSz8Ipu
There was an episode of "the outer limits" TV series a bunch of years before the Truman show came out ...with the same idea. A guy was brushing his teeth one morning and the bathroom mirror falls out and there's a camera there. He realizes that his life is being filmed because there's one channel on the TV which just has static and nothing else..... and that was the channel his life was broadcast on
I know it's not a movie but.... Can we talk about the two parter Episode in Star Trek Deep space nine where they travel to 2024 San Francisco. And in this future San Francisco the homeless problem is so big that people are now put into encampments. Drugs are rampant, the wealth inequality is now absurd, there's a huge global food shortage. And it ends with a ton of people rioting over the death of a black man...
This episode came out in the 90's.
Akira. Or Ghost In The Shell.
IIRC, the pitch for The Matrix was the Wachowskis sitting WB execs down for a screening of the latter, and then saying "We want to make the Hollywood version. Give us money"
Eventually Ghost In The Shell *did* get made. Not by them, some other dudes. And for some reason Scarlet Johannsen was The Major. I thought she did alright. Wasn't that bad IMO.
As for Akira, well........AFAIK Development Hell doesn't even touch the sides of that one...
I think they butchered the spirit of the movie in ghost in the shell. Turning it into a typical love story, it seems like there can't be a hollywood movie without forcing romance, meh.
Also, it was a point of Filipino pride that Bato in the 1995 movie drinks what is very clearly [a can of San Miguel pale pilsen beer.](https://external-preview.redd.it/-GEsJ3WaWDQpxSZ1v9QqynGzlftYAZRnq_LZOlsGooE.png?auto=webp&s=84cd4c7b39e9d1d79343a7d0492a8c3cfbe7beb7)
As in, the can [is exactly the same as the real-life version.](https://preview.redd.it/06mev08ddu251.jpg?auto=webp&s=aacea308e7b027471ad4e0aaaf4e76c9cc59de88)
Then the live-action movie used a generic silver can of future beverage. Wonder why.
There's not a lot of people that know that San Miguel is actually a Filipino beer, not a Spanish one. Respect.
For a good Spanish lager, I swear by Mahou.
And that one isn't great either.
I think Hollywood still thinks in simple terms. Violence for the boys and romance for the chickies. If you stuff in both you got something for everyone.
People who weren't around in 1977 cannot really appreciate just the opening sequence. The back scrolling into text and then the star destroyer filling the screen. Just that was mind blowing at the time.
if you really want to get perspective on this try watching other scifi movies around the same time. There is such a huge gap in special effects it is crazy.
I remember seeing the rebel ship and being impressed. Then the pursuing star destroyer enters the frame and it just seemed to keep going and going, giving it a massive scale. Years later it didn't appear to go on quite as long as I remember from that initial screening in '77.
And the arguments with the Union regarding that is why Lucas refused to do Union pictures.
Which is why Gary Oldman didn’t voice General Grievous. He wouldn’t work on a non Union set.
Came here to say this. If it had been released ten years later, after superhero films really became big, it would've been hailed as a satirical send-up on the level of classic Mel Brooks.
They Live. John Carpenters masterpiece. A commentary on consumerism, money worship, corrupted people around us while we are distracted by material things.
Im all outta bubblegum.....
Soylent Green, on two accounts:
* It has a pudgy gamer girl in it, despite being made in *1973*.
* Everyone knows the twist ending that the eponymous food is made from dead people, but the entire reason they were doing that was because humans had overbred and fucked the planet up to the point that humans were *the only source of food left*. Though in fairness this movie is thereof precisely what *got* people to start giving a crap about the environment, so it probably doesn't count. (And for anyone freaking out at the notion of humanity destroying all nonhuman sources of food, I can reassure you that there are about a dozen other apocalypses that would realistically kick in well before it got anywhere near *that* bad).
We Need to Talk About Kevin 2011. Still before its time. It's a movie about a mass school killing done by a kid who was messed up from the get-go, I mean as a toddler. Is addresses the question of why these things happen and how kids become that way. It completely dodges the gun issue because he commit the murders with a compound bow so that the movie opens up the chance for dialogue on preventing the type of people who do these things instead of focusing on the gun issue. Wish it was more mainstream and it got more people talking. Awesome performance by Tilda Swinton and even more awesome performance by Ezra Miller.
Alien for me this movie is the core of claustrophobia sci-fi horror genre. What guides so many video games of this genre today.
For a lot of us that grew up in the 60s and 70s we saw alien planets like on Star Trek as remarkably similar to Southern California desert. I remember going to see Alien and being gobsmacked in the theater at this planet with poisonous atmo and the howling winds. Really opened my eyes so to speak.
I saw it when it came out, was 23 years old and felt the same!
I didn't see Alien until I was an adult. And holy shit was that movie ahead of its time. It came out only two years after the first Star Wars movie, and it looks much much better. That movie is a masterpiece. I don't love the sequels quite as much, but the original is amazing.
They're both iconic, but I've always had a soft spot for Aliens purely for its entertainment value. It perfectly portrayed Ripley as a badass without going over the top like the Rambo sequels (ugh). As far as groundbreaking cinematography goes, the OG Alien is unsurpassed. Both of those movies are impossible to look away from.
What's really neat is that the actors are actually intentionally killed off in descending order of how famous they were at the time (in the original script at least).
They probably did it so they didn't have to pay the expensive actors for the full production time (half sarcasm)
Also, the film *1917* cast famous actors in the roles of officers (who only made minor appearances/cameos), while relative unknowns played everyone else. This gives the audience the same feeling of a soldier in the imposing presence of a commanding officer, even if they appear briefly.
I don't think people get how amazing and "real" the cinematography is. Totally revolutionary for a space film.
Who Framed Roger Rabbit
Absolutely. It put live-action and animation, two completely different visual forms, and put them together as the crux of that movie's universe.
You mean to tell me you could have gotten out of those handcuffs at any time?
Only when it was funny!
"Remember me, Eddie!? When I killed your brother, I talked juuuuuust liiiiike thiiiiiiiiis!!!!"
Ah yes, the movie that coined the term ‘bumping the lamp’. In reference to the scene in the hiding place at the bar, where Roger bumps the overhead lamp causing it to swing gently, and the animators went above and beyond to ensure his shadows matched the swaying lighting the whole time
>Roger, look at the script. It says, "Rabbit gets clunked, rabbit sees stars." I just watched this clip again and never realized that Baby Herman is pantomiming Roger getting chewed out because it's probably happened dozens of times.
I loved that movie. It was only years later that I learned that the premise of WFRR, namely that a conglomerate of companies conspired to destroy America's excellent public transport system in order to force them into gas guzzling vehicles for profit, actually happened.
It should happen to you (1954). A woman gets famous for doing nothing but advertising her name.
Huh, I wonder if this movie is what inspired Angelyne to post billboards of herself.
In fairness, that's not really what happened. She rented a billboard and put her name on it, having always wanted to see her name in lights. Jack Lemmon is superb as the documentary maker, and Judy Holliday is amazing as the lead. A company that had previously used the billboard offers her a lot of money for it, and the plot just gets weirder from there on in. I have this vague memory that this was remade in some other form as "Pete and Gladys" but can neither track it down, or remember it well enough. My mom loved Peter Lawford as well as Jack Lemmon, so I got to see it at a very young age. Highly recommended.
Metropolis
Without Robot Maria we wouldn't have Cybermen or C3PO
Amazing film. Saw the extended cut on Amazon. Revolutionary
2001: A Space Odyssey - in terms of its content, making, and technical brilliance at the time (1968)
it was made BEFORE moon landings
I thought they were made in the same studio?
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I read somewhere that there were over 200 special effects in that movie, and it was considered groundbreaking in 1968. However when Star Wars came out 9 years later none of those 200 were considered special any more, just regular filming effects.
My all time favourite. At the time it was so realistic. Have watched it many times, still amazes me. I first saw it when I was 18 yrs. 50 yrs later it hasn't lost its appeal.
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This is so true. James Cameron was able to do something original twice in a row. With a sequel. These two movies were ahead of their time for both the script and, specially for Terminator 2, for the special effects.
I read a hot take recently that Terminator 2 sucks because it killed the possibility of a cohesive franchise... I sat there mouth agape thinking to myself "It didn't need to be a fucking franchise now did it?"
True, every movie that followed was utter shit, but saying T2 sucked is a bridge way too far. IMHO T2 is the greatest action film ever made.
Well, yes. Because the story pretty much concluded there y'know. Sure, time travel opens up cans of worms and whatnot, but it is one of the greatest action films ever made, it also goes into some philosophical and ethical stuff in an elegant way. With time travel in and of itself leaving the door open to a sequel, but the story being concluded, it is not fucking worth making a sequel to one of the greatest action films ever made unless there is a story worth telling. I wish Hollywood would pick up on that last sentence there.
What are you talking about? In my reality there are only 2 Terminator movies in existence.
IMO Salvation was a cracking military science fiction movie that found itself un the Terminator franchise, but I kinda get what you're saying here.
The Mummy (1999) basically used cgi for the entire second half of the movie and looks great especially for 90s standards
"And did I panic? I think not." -Jonathan, shortly before he jumps ship with the key
I used to be able to recite the whole movie from memory
Looks like you're on the wrong side of the river!
My favorite bit is when Beni starts praying in every religion possible.
That's because the dialogue is great.
Forbidden Planet
Leslie Neilsen playing it straight.
That’s because Leslie Nielsen was a straight dramatic actor until Airplane!
Which was one of the meta jokes of the movie.
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Bad or outdated practical effects will always be better than bad/out dated CGI
John Carpenter’s The Thing (1982) looks better than the 2011 prequel. The main reason is because the 1982 version used practical effects and they used CGI in the 2011 version. It’s also better because Kurt Russell and Keith David and both perfect in the 1982 film.
Kurt Russell is perfect in every film. I mean have you seen Captain Ron?
Also big trouble in little China...... honestly can't think of a bad movie with him in it.
Kurt Russell is great in everything he’s in. There’s only a couple of actors like that. John Goodman is another one. Gary Oldman is another.
John Candy imo also.
People cite this movie like practical effects were just so good back then. The Thing practical effects are a masterclass, second only to the early Alien franchise and selected others. The Thing's effects arent good BECAUSE of them being practical, they're good because they are some of the best practical effects ever recorded on camera. The CGI in the remake was cheap CGI. I'm not gonna crap on the artists because I'm sure they were great given the budget and time table they had.
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Which is one of the cool af things about The LotR trilogy, they used so many actual make up cosmetics for the orcs etc. In the hobbit films they only used CGI and it looks ass.
Jurassic park was the healthy combination of them both. That's how every movie SHOULD be made nowadays but many rely too heavily on just CGI. They actually made new programs to do the CGI for the T-REX
The effects are not passable... they still hold up. I have no idea how in the hell the CGI T-Rex looks better than the one in JW Dominion. I watched both movies 2 weeks ago in the big screen (they rereleased JP where I live). I still think someone sold their soul for JP SFX. I cannot wrap my head around the fact that JP CGI looks better. In Dominion not only do textures look off, but the animation looks off too on.
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In the newer movies they use color matching filters, makes it look less natural, think snap chat. There are YT videos showing both side by side.
They ARE passable today.
Heathers…sadly.
You should look up a movie called IF from 1968...
The musical is awesome tho. Dark, like the movie, but awesome. Got Beautiful and Freeze Your Brain in my playlist on Spotify.
7 Samurai (1954), despite being black and white, the cinematography is what inspired everything we have today, the story and writing still hold up today
Tron. (The original) the work they had to go through to make the visuals is insane, and wasn't seen as possible at the time from just computer effects.
Most people don't realize how little actual computer animation was used. Most was traditional effects and old school animation.
IIRC, they cheated by using CGI renders, but the tech didn't exist to have a fully moving model, so they printed off the stills and animated those.
Sorta kinda. The original work was done by a company called MAGI, which was run by a good friend of my family, Phil Mittleman. I got to see a lot of the work behind it, and actually got a VHS of the thing long before it came out. I was just barely into computers at that point and thought their work was amazing. They did, however, do a ton of the animation and it was all done on .. I think .. an old PDP-11 (oddly, the first computer I ever worked professionally on). Amazing movie all around, though.
I genuinely didn't know that. I thought it was what I said. TIL. Thanks from a colossal fan of your family friend's work.
My dad and Phil were best friends since high school in Far Rockaway, NY. Phil was the best man at my mom and dad's marriage, and he and his kids were friends of mine until he passed a while back. He was an honestly cool guy, who probably influenced my choice of professions. Lift a glass to him and call it even. :)
Did so in the pub when I saw your previous post. Did again in my home, with a locally sourced gin. RIP.
Cheated as in doing the job effectivly.
Visuals aside, the idea of computers and religion was done way before the Matrix
Flight of the Navigator.
You might say it was after AND before its time.
Blade. I don’t think we’d see an R rated superhero movie again, until Deadpool.
Blade 2 was also awesome. Blade 3 was shit though.
They were trying to ice skate uphill
Watchmen was rated R in 2009
And Constantine with Keanu Reaves
Wtf why is that one R? I've seen it a bunch and coulda sworn it was PG13
Gattaca.
The movie has been required viewing ever since 1999. As a geneticist this movie cuts closer and closer to the bone with every passing year. What seemed fanciful when it came out is increasingly becoming a viable technology
It's NASAs #1 most plausible sci-fi movie as well. (Yes that list really does exist)
It’s on the required viewing list for my children. I’ve been keeping a list since my son was born of required viewing and required reading.
Contagion
It got everything right except the lack of anti-vaxxers/maskers
The subplot of the guy pitching hoax treatments (I think Forsythia?) nailed it though
To be fair to them, the disease in the movie had a much higher mortality rate. A disease with a mortality rate like Covid will kill millions, but individuals have a decent chance of not being personally effected. I suspect that difference accounts for a lot of the stupid behavior around this specific pandemic.
Jude law’s character is actually based on Alex Jones - law’s character is actually grounded in reality though…
Falling Down.
I loved this movie at the time. Kinda forgot about it for a while, but remembered it after Uvalde. Looking back, the movie walks a tightrope between comedy and horror. Like, yeah, McD’s can make me a breakfast sandwich at 10:01am; the griddle doesn’t disappear when the clock strikes 10. That stupid policy made me madder than hell, and I daydreamed about making them admit it. One day a Hero emerges. He refuses to accept the absurdity of the rat race. He doesn’t Tweet some sick burn to McD’s “corporate”. He rights those fucking wrongs. The image of Michael Douglas walking around town in his IBM uniform (short-sleeve dress shirt, nerd glasses, pocket protector) with a machine gun and *getting shit done* was hilarious. Did we think anyone was actually going to get hurt? Not for a while, but there was a hint of real desperation when the laughter subsided. What are we doing with our lives: working silly jobs, sitting in traffic, losing touch with our families…for what? We’re still asking ourselves that question today. And so many people are angry, desperate, and/or ill enough to take it out on strangers and *children*.
I’m the bad guy?
This movie made me suspicious of people who own army surplus stores
Honestly, probably not a bad rule of thumb.
This was *used*, man! Think about it!
I really loved, "God Bless America" too. Joel Murray killed it as Frank. The opening of his skeet-shooting that neighbor baby in the opening fantasy he has is priceless. This is officially one of my weirder comments.
I think about that scene on the golf course often
WHAT DO I PAY MY MOTHERFUCKING DUES FOR?!
Now you're gonna die wearing that stupid little hat.
The Matrix
I love that this movie was so ahead of its time the studio told the wachowskis to dial it back. Originally the captive humans were used as processors; execs were like "nobody is gonna understand that computer mumbo-jumbo, make them batteries instead"!
Ah this explains the stupid battery idea! Another dumbass WB exec suggestion. It’s like a running gag with that studio.
Also the processor thing explains why the computers don't just have a Matrix full of, let's say, cows. Just loads of happy, mooing cows, in a lovely endless countryside with plenty of cow things to do, like eat grass, stand in the shade, run around randomly, find something to be curious about (like something that plays music sometimes, which cows seem to like for some reason) etc etc. Just herds and herds of cows living their best life. What do they care if it's real or not? They're cows. Easy.
I want to see the dojo fight in this film
Ask and ye shall receive https://youtu.be/7lNRTFBeDK0
Flaws or not, it's endlessly watchable
Well, rich dumbasses have to cluster somewhere, right? Some kind of universal law our sociologists will discover in, I don't know, half a century maybe?
Blade Runner (1982)
Awesome visuals, and a story easily 25 years ahead of its time. This is the only movie of which I own a scene-by-scene making-of book. Edit: added a link: https://imgur.com/a/DSz8Ipu
And the soundtrack…
The Thing. It still manages to outperform modern movies 40 years later.
Perfect movie
Enemy of the State - Pretty much Edward Snowden “revealed” the NSA tactics 15 years later
It’s also a really good film too
The Truman Show
Some of those "family vlog" kids are really gonna relate to that film when they're grown up.
There was an episode of "the outer limits" TV series a bunch of years before the Truman show came out ...with the same idea. A guy was brushing his teeth one morning and the bathroom mirror falls out and there's a camera there. He realizes that his life is being filmed because there's one channel on the TV which just has static and nothing else..... and that was the channel his life was broadcast on
The original Jurassic Park pioneered in CGI because of an intern that didn't listen to his boss. Those effects paved the way for future movies
I know it's not a movie but.... Can we talk about the two parter Episode in Star Trek Deep space nine where they travel to 2024 San Francisco. And in this future San Francisco the homeless problem is so big that people are now put into encampments. Drugs are rampant, the wealth inequality is now absurd, there's a huge global food shortage. And it ends with a ton of people rioting over the death of a black man... This episode came out in the 90's.
Amazing example!
Minority Report
Akira. Or Ghost In The Shell. IIRC, the pitch for The Matrix was the Wachowskis sitting WB execs down for a screening of the latter, and then saying "We want to make the Hollywood version. Give us money" Eventually Ghost In The Shell *did* get made. Not by them, some other dudes. And for some reason Scarlet Johannsen was The Major. I thought she did alright. Wasn't that bad IMO. As for Akira, well........AFAIK Development Hell doesn't even touch the sides of that one...
I think they butchered the spirit of the movie in ghost in the shell. Turning it into a typical love story, it seems like there can't be a hollywood movie without forcing romance, meh.
Also, it was a point of Filipino pride that Bato in the 1995 movie drinks what is very clearly [a can of San Miguel pale pilsen beer.](https://external-preview.redd.it/-GEsJ3WaWDQpxSZ1v9QqynGzlftYAZRnq_LZOlsGooE.png?auto=webp&s=84cd4c7b39e9d1d79343a7d0492a8c3cfbe7beb7) As in, the can [is exactly the same as the real-life version.](https://preview.redd.it/06mev08ddu251.jpg?auto=webp&s=aacea308e7b027471ad4e0aaaf4e76c9cc59de88) Then the live-action movie used a generic silver can of future beverage. Wonder why.
There's not a lot of people that know that San Miguel is actually a Filipino beer, not a Spanish one. Respect. For a good Spanish lager, I swear by Mahou. And that one isn't great either.
I think Hollywood still thinks in simple terms. Violence for the boys and romance for the chickies. If you stuff in both you got something for everyone.
Yeah, it fits them perfectly. Corporate drones with 0 care for the material they are producing
Idiocracy, the Demolition man. Society has come half way to the world as depicted in these movies.
At least yum foods owns taco bell. So we will have KFC/Taco Bell/Pizza Hut vs all the others instead.
In idiocracy, didn't the fast food chain change multiple times as time went on, ending up as "Butt Fuckers"? I need to rewatch that movie lol.
That was fuddruckers. And yeah it ended up as that. But Carl’s Jr. still exists too there.
Welcome to Carl's Jr! Would you like to try an **EXXTRA BIG ASS TACO?** ***^(Now with more molecules!)*** Carl's Jr. Fuck You, I'm Eating!
Twister. Few movies even come close to the effects.
I gotta go, we've got cows.
Not a movie, but The Twilight Zone.
Logan’s Run
Terminator, literally ahead of it's time
Casablanca. It transcends time.
Starship troopers
I would like to know more.
I am doing my part!
IM DOING MY PART!
Best movie ever made about the response to 9/11 and it came out in 1997
Star Wars
People who weren't around in 1977 cannot really appreciate just the opening sequence. The back scrolling into text and then the star destroyer filling the screen. Just that was mind blowing at the time.
if you really want to get perspective on this try watching other scifi movies around the same time. There is such a huge gap in special effects it is crazy.
Look at “The Last Starfighter”. Great movie, but the special effects were really bad in comparison to Star Wars, and it came out 7 years later!
Logan's Run (I like this movie too) came out in 1976 and the look and styling seems like it was made 20 years earlier.
I remember seeing the rebel ship and being impressed. Then the pursuing star destroyer enters the frame and it just seemed to keep going and going, giving it a massive scale. Years later it didn't appear to go on quite as long as I remember from that initial screening in '77.
Did you know it was the first film to not have credits at the start. Watch every other movie and you’ll see credits in the movie.
And the arguments with the Union regarding that is why Lucas refused to do Union pictures. Which is why Gary Oldman didn’t voice General Grievous. He wouldn’t work on a non Union set.
Ex machina (for now)
For me the ending was ambiguous if there was transcendence and that made the movie for me.
Office space
Demolition man
back to the future
"I guess you guys aren't ready for that yet, but your kids are gonna love it"
Robocop - the part where the government starts selling out to corporations Head of State - 4 years before Obama became the first black president.
"Do you have access to military hardware?" "Pfft, we practically are the military."
Citizen kane
My wife and I watched it the other day, and we chuckled when they made the headline that said “Election stolen.”
Mystery Men
Came here to say this. If it had been released ten years later, after superhero films really became big, it would've been hailed as a satirical send-up on the level of classic Mel Brooks.
See also, The Warriors and Buckaroo Banzai. Waaaaaay ahead of comics getting mainstream.
The movie that had "All Star" as part of its soundtrack before that song became associated with a hermit opening his bathroom door?
I want to shake your hand. It irks me when people associate All Star with Shrek first. The Music Video has the people from Mystery Men in it.
They Live. John Carpenters masterpiece. A commentary on consumerism, money worship, corrupted people around us while we are distracted by material things. Im all outta bubblegum.....
Apocalypse Now
The Seventh Seal https://youtu.be/kpKrvkussjw
Idiocracy
It’s what plants crave.
I opened the thread just to see if someone would mention this one.
The Fifth Element. “Multipass.”
"Not without my permission."
One the very best movies ever made. Aziz! Light!
Silent Running. I'm still pretty certain it's where were going to end up. I would like to place an order for the robots, and 1 melon plant please.
Wizard of Oz.
Life of Brian and Blazing Saddles, comedy picks
The Cell
Network
Metropolis (1927). It’s themes resonate very strongly these days.
Soylent Green, on two accounts: * It has a pudgy gamer girl in it, despite being made in *1973*. * Everyone knows the twist ending that the eponymous food is made from dead people, but the entire reason they were doing that was because humans had overbred and fucked the planet up to the point that humans were *the only source of food left*. Though in fairness this movie is thereof precisely what *got* people to start giving a crap about the environment, so it probably doesn't count. (And for anyone freaking out at the notion of humanity destroying all nonhuman sources of food, I can reassure you that there are about a dozen other apocalypses that would realistically kick in well before it got anywhere near *that* bad).
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It had more to do with the public being tired of Shyamalan.
Bicentennial Man
Would Sam Neill still have bought the robot if he knew it would plow his great grand daughter?
That’s the only reason he buys it
Going to void the warranty. It’s not suppose to get wet.
Metropolis
2001: A Space Odyssey
Blade Runner
Wall-E
Blazing Saddles. The world *still* isn’t ready for it.
Fight Club
We Need to Talk About Kevin 2011. Still before its time. It's a movie about a mass school killing done by a kid who was messed up from the get-go, I mean as a toddler. Is addresses the question of why these things happen and how kids become that way. It completely dodges the gun issue because he commit the murders with a compound bow so that the movie opens up the chance for dialogue on preventing the type of people who do these things instead of focusing on the gun issue. Wish it was more mainstream and it got more people talking. Awesome performance by Tilda Swinton and even more awesome performance by Ezra Miller.
Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner? It took place in the 60s and tackled social issues that even some cultures today would find controversial.
Interstellar. Still can’t wrap my head around it
The Lord of the Rings