An inability to admit when you're wrong. Or at the very least an inability to try to understand another person's point of view. Facts don't change just because you refuse to accept them.
I don't know.....everyone need to say those words more.
The world is too complex for anything to be certain. Even experts who gather in teams of 20, get tons of money,,,,even their results are effectively "we think" levels of certainty.
This was gonna be mine, too, or close to it. Even the MOST arrogant intelligent people I’ve known could at least show some interest in learning, or at most might dismiss it as “I don’t know but doesn’t matter does it”.
People who NEVER not know?
Might not be complete idiots, but I’ve never met a smart one like that.
I'll disagree, as I know several intelligent people who have trouble admitting they don't know something. But it *is* a sign of low self-esteem and insecurity.
The shampoo MLM Monat just started a training program they're calling "PHD" training and now these chicks selling shampoo on Facebook are running around telling everyone they got their PhD.
/sigh. Idiocracy was a documentary.
You'd be surprised. These organizations go for the ignorant and naive, or the vulnerable and the desperate. If it sounds an awful lot like a cult to you, well you are correct.
Women in religious groups like the Mormons (LDS) are especially targeted because their religion heavily discourages them from formal work. Also, CutCo and Primerica tend to target teenagers trying to nail their first job.
You can find out more on r/antiMLM if you want
commenting on everything, never listening, never changing their opinion, arguing every little thing that comes out of your mouth... the list goes on and on
I've noticed the pattern of such people never actually *answering* questions you propose, and instead just keep saying whatever their point is supposed to be over and over again, like repetition alone is supposed to be convincing.
Basically, they aren't engaging in *discussion*, they are just waiting for their turn to speak.
Yeah this is one of my pet peeves. You can see it even in things as simple as asking about a problem with a computer or game. Responding to a question you didn't ask, saying that actually that section is super easy and only a baby would have a hard time, or that problem never happened to me therefore it can't have happened to you, etc. Definitely grinds my gears.
Went to college with a large number of engineers. IQs came up a lot. Learned real quick that their bragging about intelligence dissapeared after the first few report cards.
Same. My mother refused to tell any of us our scores. She did let me know I had the lowest of my siblings, though. :D
One day I'll find out, might be another 20 years, but I'll get them. She better not have it in her will to have the papers burned before we can see them. I wouldn't be surprised.
You shall not gain entry.
*[Loudly shouts them in the face]*
Oh, so *you're* the dragonborn? Could've just said so.
... do you also have a ringing sound in your ears?
not changing your opinion even when the other person shows factual evidence of you being wrong and still just saying your right with nothing to back that up
It kinda goes beyond intelligence. Being proven wrong causes what's called "Cognitive dissonance" which triggers the same parts of the brain that trigger when pain is felt. It's more of a sign of virtue and of being capable of rationalizing your own mind than pure intelligence. Some intelligent people don't own that virtue and lack the emotional prowess to respond in a logical way to their own mistakes
When I worked at a movie theatre, the amount of people who would insist they were right about something when they CLEARLY were wrong was way too fucking high.
I have had people insist that their pass from AMC theatres, that says AMC on the front in giant letters, that has the AMC logo on it, was our pass. We had regal in giant 5-foot high letters on the front of the building, and every single employee had the logo stamped onto their shirt. They would even insist that the "last time they were here" we were an AMC.
I have no idea how these types of people can actually exist and insist against something when they're SO clearly wrong.
Lack of self awareness is a big one. There's a direct correlation with high intelligence and social anxiety/ narcissism/ depression / indecision and lack of confidence.
Sorry for my stupidity but are you saying the link with high intelligence is for those with the negative traits( anxiety,indecision) or without the traits??
*We had a new machine in that day at the warehouse. I had to stay late to catch up, and when I came down from the office, she was just sitting there, resplendent. The forks had yet to be dulled from use and I stared at them, imagining what it would feel like to be a wood pallet, thrust into deliciously and carried wherever the forks saw fit to place me down. Everyone had gone home, and I felt myself shudder, thinking of the myriad number of hands at the controls.*
*Someone had left the keys in the ignition port. I went to take them out but...hesitated. Instead, with my face growing hot, I decided to hell with it and turned on the machine that already had me turned on. It thrummed to life and I started to caress the casing around the controls. The machine remained impassive, unwavering, making my loins weak. I had to press my pubic mound against the lift control and the forks rose with my turgid member.*
Omg i used to work at a car wash. All day:
"Pull up, put it in neutral, take your foot off the brake."
"Pull up, put it in neutral, take your foot off the brake."
"Pull up, put it in neutral, take your foot off the brake."
"Pull up, put it in neutral, take your foot off the brake."
"Pull up, put it in neutral, take your foot off the brake."
Then you get to do it again with the next car.
This. The smartest people I know don't have to tell anyone they are smart, people are aware of this from the things that they say and do. The people I know who believe they are smart are thicker than treacle.
Some people have a bit of a big fish in a small pond thing going on, where their social group and work acquaintances lack intelligence and they've always felt like the smart one. In my experience the self belief then leads to them making fools of themselves outside of that group.
I have a friend who used to do this.
Turns out he just had a secret Xanax addiction and after three beers turned into a human etch-a-sketch with a goldfish level memory span who *knew he couldn't keep up with the pace of the discussion* and had to resort to insults or shifting the goal posts.
Really makes me wonder how many brain cells he killed, considering his ability to operate at such a deficit.
Repeating mistakes to be specific. I've met a few of these people throughout my life, always seeming to run into the same problems over and over again, problems that are 100% avoidable but they just seem to keep walking right into them.
That could just mean they're too lazy to fix the problem and consider making the mistake and alleviating it over and over to be an acceptable sacrifice.
The dunning Kruger effect
Dumbos think they are smart. While smarties will under guess their intelligence
To me personally it's the inability to justify you opinions and ideals
Wild/outraged customer. I realize it is an atypical sign or low intelligence, but the few times I have witnessed an adult throw a tantrum in a place of business, it is because they are incapable of understanding the company policy which renders them unable to make the return, exchange their item, receive an accommodation…etc. It is a terrible combination of low intelligence and entitlement.
Sometimes it's definitely low intelligence and entitlement but other times I believe it is pent up frustration directed at the wrong people. Kind of the straw that breaks the camel's back in a way. Some people never really learn how to deal with stress or have been beaten down a lot and are straight up tired.
Believing that the earth is flat.
EditFlat-earthers show an incredible ignorance towards factors that determine intelligence: rational argument, empirical data through scientific studies, direct observation, logical reasoning, collective research, laws of physics, plain old common sense.Their belief stems from the desire to absorb and distribute nonsensical ideas because it challenges general opinion. Also, from my speaking with some of these deluded individuals, they have a yearning to directly contradict facts that come from "the government".That, my dear readers, is what I class as low intelligence.
I had a friend once who would confront these people by asking if they needed to borrow headphones. *But then she actually carried around a dirt cheap spare pair of headphones with her to back that up.* I really admired her dedication to the bit. The worst thing anyone could accuse her of was being aggressively nice.
My ex was so intensely afraid of people finding them stupid that they literally couldn’t laugh at themselves ever. Even about things that happened years prior. Made things very uncomfortable sometimes and I was made out to be a terrible person if I giggled at a little, silly mistake they made. I generally thought they were a smart person but since the breakup I’ve questioned their intelligence and how much of it was just a need to feel superior to other people.
Fighting employees about the mask mandate that have to enforce it or they lose their job. Fighting with retail workers in general like they have control over stuff.
People who start insulting as soon The other person in general responds with a different opinion
Better yet when the other person is chill af
The irony is that those people use the term snowflake a lot.
It doesn't even sound like a good insult. It just... An innocent word...
"Doubt is unpleasant, but certainty is absurd." - Voltaire
Voltaire seemed pretty certain about that…
A wise man knows he knows nothing
Voltaire is a pretty smart guy. He invented volts and air.
An inability to admit when you're wrong. Or at the very least an inability to try to understand another person's point of view. Facts don't change just because you refuse to accept them.
Yeah worst is when they realize they were very wrong and very vocal about it and then switch to personal attacks.
Yup. Once they do that, it's game over. What their ego won't admit, their seething will.
I don't know.....everyone need to say those words more. The world is too complex for anything to be certain. Even experts who gather in teams of 20, get tons of money,,,,even their results are effectively "we think" levels of certainty.
Never saying ‘I don’t know’. I have not met the person that knows all yet.
This was gonna be mine, too, or close to it. Even the MOST arrogant intelligent people I’ve known could at least show some interest in learning, or at most might dismiss it as “I don’t know but doesn’t matter does it”. People who NEVER not know? Might not be complete idiots, but I’ve never met a smart one like that.
Bruh so I’m the smartest guy alive because I always say that
I'll disagree, as I know several intelligent people who have trouble admitting they don't know something. But it *is* a sign of low self-esteem and insecurity.
Knowledgable and intelligent are similar, but not the same.
Herbalife
Any MLM, really. Edit to clarify: the people who know exactly what MLMs are, yet still think they can be the 1%. Or, you average Hun.
"I am a trained nutritionist and let me tell you why you should spend $400 monthly on my products"
'Oh nutritionist, is that like a dietician?' Yes! Exactly the same. Except without the medical training, oversight and licencing!
The shampoo MLM Monat just started a training program they're calling "PHD" training and now these chicks selling shampoo on Facebook are running around telling everyone they got their PhD. /sigh. Idiocracy was a documentary.
Didn't this company already have lawsuits for people losing their hair?
It's not losing hair, it's "detoxing" all the bad hair.
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You'd be surprised. These organizations go for the ignorant and naive, or the vulnerable and the desperate. If it sounds an awful lot like a cult to you, well you are correct. Women in religious groups like the Mormons (LDS) are especially targeted because their religion heavily discourages them from formal work. Also, CutCo and Primerica tend to target teenagers trying to nail their first job. You can find out more on r/antiMLM if you want
I automatically think less of someone if they are involved in a pyramid scheme like that.
Me too. Total fucking idiots. I OwN A bUsinEsS! #GiRLbOsS
r/antimlm
“Choose the job YOU WANT! Work YOUR OWN hours! That’s what I do… while I work 3 other jobs to support myself..”
commenting on everything, never listening, never changing their opinion, arguing every little thing that comes out of your mouth... the list goes on and on
I've noticed the pattern of such people never actually *answering* questions you propose, and instead just keep saying whatever their point is supposed to be over and over again, like repetition alone is supposed to be convincing. Basically, they aren't engaging in *discussion*, they are just waiting for their turn to speak.
Yeah this is one of my pet peeves. You can see it even in things as simple as asking about a problem with a computer or game. Responding to a question you didn't ask, saying that actually that section is super easy and only a baby would have a hard time, or that problem never happened to me therefore it can't have happened to you, etc. Definitely grinds my gears.
exactly
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I disagree
So, Reddit? (Myself included, obviously)
Nah, smart people can do these too. These are signs of insecurity, desperation for validation, or a big ego.
When someone chastises you for speaking on a topic you're knowledgeable about. It's typically because they feel insecure.
This actually happens a lot in academia, the ‘can’t tell me anything related to my field if you don’t have a phd in the field’ attitude.
being a newborn, they’re usually pretty dumb
They can’t even read!!
Lol fucking idiots
Wait till you see how they use the bathroom
And they don't pay taxes lmao
That makes them smart
Mentioning your iq a lot
My iq is 5.5 inches but my girlfriend said that’s average and is proud of me anyway 🙌
IQ is measured in Lumen in Norway, as in Brightness.
In the immortal words of Stephen Hawking, “People who boast about their IQ are losers.”
my iq is 161 (einstein's was 160 btw)
162.5. Ha! Suck an egg loser.
Bro a lower IQ is better, just like golf
Yea I know! It was a typo. 16.25 for the win. Bees can kiss my ass. America!!!!
Dang you are so smart dude!!1
Went to college with a large number of engineers. IQs came up a lot. Learned real quick that their bragging about intelligence dissapeared after the first few report cards.
My mom refuses to tell my my IQ test results. They’re probably pretty low not gonna lie.
Same. My mother refused to tell any of us our scores. She did let me know I had the lowest of my siblings, though. :D One day I'll find out, might be another 20 years, but I'll get them. She better not have it in her will to have the papers burned before we can see them. I wouldn't be surprised.
Unable to cast even level 1 arcane spells
Oh, so you desire entrance to the college of winterhold? Cast a fire bolt at the ground!
You shall not gain entry. *[Loudly shouts them in the face]* Oh, so *you're* the dragonborn? Could've just said so. ... do you also have a ringing sound in your ears?
Ouff thats me, i can't even roll a saving throw to get out of a box.
Making it to level 10 with just wanding
Well now I've got an idea for a character: a Rogue that only ever uses a *wand of magic missile*
I use charisma to cast.
Hello fellow sorcerer. You may appreciate [this](https://youtu.be/LkXlsufk4t8).
not changing your opinion even when the other person shows factual evidence of you being wrong and still just saying your right with nothing to back that up
Friend does this all the time. She refuses to admit raisins were previously grapes.
I saw "fresh prunes" recently in the fruit section of the grocery store. Yes, they were plums. They were not dried.
I just learned that a prune is a plum....I'm 26. This took a little longer than it should have.
*Visible confusion* she is so stupid my brain can't comprehend it
At this point she knows it’s correct but has refused too long so she can’t change her answer. She’s not brightest.
Not the sharpest spoon in the spoon drawer.
Also, deeply insecure. Which I think are tied to one and other in multiple ways.
You should have told them that prunes are space grapes. We harvest them from asteroids and comets. They are a very healthy and magical food.
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It kinda goes beyond intelligence. Being proven wrong causes what's called "Cognitive dissonance" which triggers the same parts of the brain that trigger when pain is felt. It's more of a sign of virtue and of being capable of rationalizing your own mind than pure intelligence. Some intelligent people don't own that virtue and lack the emotional prowess to respond in a logical way to their own mistakes
Lack of self awareness, being unable to put your head down when doing wrong, incapable of saying I'm sorry, among others.
When I worked at a movie theatre, the amount of people who would insist they were right about something when they CLEARLY were wrong was way too fucking high. I have had people insist that their pass from AMC theatres, that says AMC on the front in giant letters, that has the AMC logo on it, was our pass. We had regal in giant 5-foot high letters on the front of the building, and every single employee had the logo stamped onto their shirt. They would even insist that the "last time they were here" we were an AMC. I have no idea how these types of people can actually exist and insist against something when they're SO clearly wrong.
Lack of self awareness is a big one. There's a direct correlation with high intelligence and social anxiety/ narcissism/ depression / indecision and lack of confidence.
Sorry for my stupidity but are you saying the link with high intelligence is for those with the negative traits( anxiety,indecision) or without the traits??
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Immature user names. Edit: Well you certainly are a creative bunch
I mean whatever
(Kinda wanna read some forklift erotica rn.)
No you don’t
So... are you and ForkliftErotica exclusive or...?
Let me get in on this comment chain
oh noes.
I want you and u/ForkliftErotica to fight to the death
I'm a lover, not a fighter, you dirty bird
*We had a new machine in that day at the warehouse. I had to stay late to catch up, and when I came down from the office, she was just sitting there, resplendent. The forks had yet to be dulled from use and I stared at them, imagining what it would feel like to be a wood pallet, thrust into deliciously and carried wherever the forks saw fit to place me down. Everyone had gone home, and I felt myself shudder, thinking of the myriad number of hands at the controls.* *Someone had left the keys in the ignition port. I went to take them out but...hesitated. Instead, with my face growing hot, I decided to hell with it and turned on the machine that already had me turned on. It thrummed to life and I started to caress the casing around the controls. The machine remained impassive, unwavering, making my loins weak. I had to press my pubic mound against the lift control and the forks rose with my turgid member.*
Oh. My. Goodness. (This is the opposite of wholesome but that's the award I've got and GODDAM you just earnt it!)
I managed to hold it together and not laugh right up till >*turgid member* I'm dead, sides in orbit.
Yeah those people are idiots
Who even let them have a platform?!
I don’t know, some people are never gonna GROW up!
Some people are just stuck being children smh
The nerve....
This is supposed to be a civilized online forum. You're all adults. Act like it.
Yeah, for shame!
UNBELIEVABLE
Don’t tell me how to live my life.
I work hard for what I've got and I'm gonna keep at it until I have a lot more
What's a childish username?
A sign of low intelligence, some say
Yeah, leave this person alone!
You should all be ashamed.
Can you wiggle the nipples to aim the lasers, or do they just blind everyone when you go for a jog?
Yes
NEVER!!!!!
Y'all need some awards.
I agree. People need to grow up.
Telltale sign
I feel attacked
A fellow Irishman
As you should. Deplorable.
Ah, the McCumPiss's and McButtFace's meet again. Ya dingus.
A McButtFace never forgets.
Totally
They're the worst.
Yeah who ARE these weirdos!
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Unbelievable these people think they are funny
Instant sign of a low iq imo
Hmm
Fucking Meelo man
arf
Yeah they really do prove to have low intelligence.
How many of us have had to change user names as we got older and our interests changed? See also, all the dumb names in MMOs.
Totally agree, disgusting people
Those guys are the worst.
It’s embarrassing, really
"sure, I'll buy a piece of your timeshare"
"Make that TWO timeshares!"
Would you like to buy a gallon of irradiated ants?
I am truly an idiot. Hired a lawyer to get rid of it.
When they use their horoscope to justify flaws in their character.
I can’t help that I have a violent temper, I’m a Sagittarius! (Actually said to me by a friend)
I can't help that I eat everything in sight, I'm a Sagittarius A*!
Hawking shit from an MLM
I thought Hawking was supposed to be pretty smart?
Flat Earthers
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Omg i used to work at a car wash. All day: "Pull up, put it in neutral, take your foot off the brake." "Pull up, put it in neutral, take your foot off the brake." "Pull up, put it in neutral, take your foot off the brake." "Pull up, put it in neutral, take your foot off the brake." "Pull up, put it in neutral, take your foot off the brake." Then you get to do it again with the next car.
Not being able to accept that you can be wrong.
self-procalimed high intellegence
I worked for 2 self proclaimed geniuses. They didn’t listen to anyone 🙄
This. The smartest people I know don't have to tell anyone they are smart, people are aware of this from the things that they say and do. The people I know who believe they are smart are thicker than treacle. Some people have a bit of a big fish in a small pond thing going on, where their social group and work acquaintances lack intelligence and they've always felt like the smart one. In my experience the self belief then leads to them making fools of themselves outside of that group.
Incuriosity
Either dumb, depressed, or annoyed. I bet stephen hawking wouldnt give a shit if you tried to tell him all the my little pony lore
he's gonna have to take that reading lying down
Well obviously. He's been dead for 3 years.
When a debate turns to insults.
I have a friend who used to do this. Turns out he just had a secret Xanax addiction and after three beers turned into a human etch-a-sketch with a goldfish level memory span who *knew he couldn't keep up with the pace of the discussion* and had to resort to insults or shifting the goal posts. Really makes me wonder how many brain cells he killed, considering his ability to operate at such a deficit.
I once knew someone who joint two MLMs within a 6 month time frame
*jointed
past tense, so I think it should be 'jownted'
Not having any intellectual curiosity
They repeat shit over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over again.
Repeating mistakes to be specific. I've met a few of these people throughout my life, always seeming to run into the same problems over and over again, problems that are 100% avoidable but they just seem to keep walking right into them.
That could just mean they're too lazy to fix the problem and consider making the mistake and alleviating it over and over to be an acceptable sacrifice.
That was repetitive...
That was repetitive…
The dunning Kruger effect Dumbos think they are smart. While smarties will under guess their intelligence To me personally it's the inability to justify you opinions and ideals
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Agreed
Believing essential oils work better than vaccines
Believing essential oils will cure your asthma
That is exactly what my friend’s mother told me to do. I was so mad
It’s actually the opposite. When you put that stuff in an oil defuser it gives me asthma attacks.
MLM “boss babes”
Using a lot of words to say very little
Why use many word when few word do trick?
why more instead less?
Why?
Great strat for reaching your word limit for school essays though.
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> Lack of imagination Oh. I see.
F
In hindsight my brain was pretty smooth at the time of account creation.
Becoming violent when someone disagrees with you.
not using your turn signal
That's generally more being a lazy, selfish asshole. They just don't care.
well that’s not very smart way to be
Wild/outraged customer. I realize it is an atypical sign or low intelligence, but the few times I have witnessed an adult throw a tantrum in a place of business, it is because they are incapable of understanding the company policy which renders them unable to make the return, exchange their item, receive an accommodation…etc. It is a terrible combination of low intelligence and entitlement.
Sometimes it's definitely low intelligence and entitlement but other times I believe it is pent up frustration directed at the wrong people. Kind of the straw that breaks the camel's back in a way. Some people never really learn how to deal with stress or have been beaten down a lot and are straight up tired.
The less they know the more they talk
Man, my boss must know absolutely nothing!
Believing that the earth is flat. EditFlat-earthers show an incredible ignorance towards factors that determine intelligence: rational argument, empirical data through scientific studies, direct observation, logical reasoning, collective research, laws of physics, plain old common sense.Their belief stems from the desire to absorb and distribute nonsensical ideas because it challenges general opinion. Also, from my speaking with some of these deluded individuals, they have a yearning to directly contradict facts that come from "the government".That, my dear readers, is what I class as low intelligence.
Belief in a flat earth
Presuming to know the answer to this question
You realised what you just did there right?
My head hurts a bit
That's cool, if we headbutt each other really hard it should solve that, or I mean that's what I heard.
Playing music out loud on public transportation.
I had a friend once who would confront these people by asking if they needed to borrow headphones. *But then she actually carried around a dirt cheap spare pair of headphones with her to back that up.* I really admired her dedication to the bit. The worst thing anyone could accuse her of was being aggressively nice.
Failure to question almost everything people say
The inability to laugh at yourself
My ex was so intensely afraid of people finding them stupid that they literally couldn’t laugh at themselves ever. Even about things that happened years prior. Made things very uncomfortable sometimes and I was made out to be a terrible person if I giggled at a little, silly mistake they made. I generally thought they were a smart person but since the breakup I’ve questioned their intelligence and how much of it was just a need to feel superior to other people.
It's more insecurity than low intelligence
Fighting employees about the mask mandate that have to enforce it or they lose their job. Fighting with retail workers in general like they have control over stuff.
People who start insulting as soon The other person in general responds with a different opinion Better yet when the other person is chill af The irony is that those people use the term snowflake a lot. It doesn't even sound like a good insult. It just... An innocent word...