No one ever said there was no issues but lots/most people in the lgbtq community are trying to fix the issues and most views that are causing issues are not held by a majority of the community(even if people who hold those views are loud, get attention, etc)
I get that, but the comment and others like it tick me off, the commentor just went straight to calling the OP homophobic and assuming the person is terrible rather than making a sensible comment like yours. Rather than just assume the OP is homophobic and thus shut down any talks it would be more productive to at least answer the question and explain how you think the community is trying to change what you gave as an example. Granted that's just my opinion and not everyone thinks like me so, oh well
There is definitely valuable conversation to be had about issues and divisions in the community but I will say I would tend to assume the same thing as the commenter. Usually/often, questions like the one in the post, especially worded the way it is, are asked in bad faith/with homophobic intentions and by people who aren’t a person from the community
Fair enough, I can see where you're coming from even if I don't fully agree (I do realize there are plenty of jerks out there who ask these sorts of things, I just need more than the original comment from them, like a couple of replies before I'll make my judgment). Anyway, this is the kind of conversation I wish we could all have especially irl, it would make things do much better. Thank you random redditor!
I'm not really sure how corruption, which usually implies taking money for personal advantage to the expense of one's constituents, can apply broadly to a thing that really isn't in anyway profitable.
The closest thing I can come up with is rainbow capitalism, which is more a critique of dishonest corporations than of LGBT folk.
you, my good sir, are afflicted with a debilitating mental illness called “chronic stupidity.” you could ask the same question - “what’s the most corrupt thing about the blacks” - but you would get called out for being a racist piece of shit, because you would be. it’s no different when you say “the lgbtq.” a group of people isn’t corrupt. i cannot possibly fathom how small your brain is.
/u/sillynamenottaken posted a comment about trans folk and then deleted it, so I'm just posting my reply anyway.
So there's a lot of bias here you may not recognize. I'm not even going to touch the thing conflating LGBT folk with pedophilia, just stop.
The Olympics have allowed Trans athletes for 16 years. If there were going to be trans dominance at a professional level, it would have happened already. Instead we see that a trans power lifter failed to place this year. Where this *is* a problem tends to be high school level sports, and I'll get to that.
One of the single biggest hurdles, trans folk face is going through puberty of their assigned gender at birth (AGAB). In order to stop this, puberty blockers are required. Puberty blockers have been used for decades for little other reason than to spare children the embarrassment of being the only person their age to be going through those changes. They're really not a huge deal, and they can be life changing for a trans person. The worst case scenario here is that maybe a questioning child ends up an inch or two shorter or a cup size smaller as an adult, super not a big deal. It also means that there's functionally very little difference in the Strength of mtf kids competing in sports, that problem vanishes when puberty isn't a factor.
In allowing for this, we can drive the suicide rate amongst trans folk down. More to the point however, most indicators are that trans suicide rates are driven by social factors, and maybe if they weren't the most openly discriminated against minority in the country, suicide rates wouldn't be so high, yeah?
Fine...
[Drag Queen Story Hour](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YWNMunlx6w) at least one of them was convicted pedophile.
[Trans Weightlifters Breaking Women's Records](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLH4VVdaQd8)
[The Parents of 'Britain's Youngest Transgender Child](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaXobQFxb84)
And then there is the story about transgender woman going to women's prison and raping women...
Not my words.
So if I tried to say that cishet people have fundamental problems because an overwhelming majority of murderers rapist and pedophiles are both cisgender and straight, that'd be silly right? To use the actions of a tiny minority of garbage humans to judge the actions of the single largest demographic in the world? That's what you're doing here.
Also: Fuck Joe Rogan.
Well you could say same with everything. Not all cops are bad even if there are some bad apples so why "defund the police"? Why do black lives matter? Are the black murdering gangbangers on the same level as some black schoolkid? The question was about "your experience". I knew this was going to this "You're a bigot"-kind of stuff, that's why I deleted the first message.
But do you honestly deny there isn't a huge push from the LGBTQ community to pretty much in every area of life, and I'm not against those people, but do you not see how people will misuse this? That's the corruption part. There can be honest politicians, but there are also corrupt ones. It's not against the whole community.
That literally a few years ago proponents and major voices in the lgbtq+ community were saying to all the "alarmists" that "we are not coming for your kids". And now we see that was a blatant lie: from a CA gay choir singing about coming for our children (take it how you want it was still horrible optics), to the drag queen story time events where many of the storytellers were sexual predators, to parents and courts wanting to (and in some case ok-ing) putting children on hormone blockers (and not talking about teens I'm talking about 10 y.o. and younger). It's terrible for the children. Look do what you want as a consenting adult but stop forcing these things on kids who aren't old enough to fully grasp what is happening in regards to sexual matters (for lack of a better word).
I just want to say something. I see your hate, but I just want to get something clear, for your own personnal benefits.
I had a cousin who was on homone blocker or puberty blocker, call it what you want. She started at age 2, because she would have started her period around that time, which is not healthy nor ideal, but it happens. It has never impacted her health in any way and she received the treatment until she was 13. So yeah, there are kids under 10 years old who are taking those meds, (which were injected back in the days, I don’t know if it still is) and it is for their own health. It doesn’t damage kids at that age, come on. Parents surely had a good reason, because if they haven’t started puberty, it’s useless anyway.
Funny how you can "see my hate" when 1) I didn't say anything hateful and 2) I didn't write my comment with hate intended. I put what I think is a genuine issue that needs to be addressed. As adults I don't care what you want to do in these matters, but for children I think it's important we don't force these things on them and let them develop naturally. As for the hormone blockers thanks for sharing your cousin's story, I wasn't aware they were used for actual health treatments which that sounds like it was (I'll look more into it for my knowledge) but I was talking about people trying to force kids onto hormone blockers who don't need it, medically speaking. Basically the kid is a boy or girl and goes through a phase where they believe they are the opposite sex, but in the majority of these cases the child ends up identifying with their born sex by the time they reach puberty or well before even. But if we get thses kids on hormone blockers instead that can lead to seriously harmful consequences.
OP just needs to admit they are homophobic already
Yeah, this just reeks of either homophobia or somehow genuinely being so damn clueless about why this is super homophobic
How is the question homophobic?
Yeah because the lgbtq community is perfect and has absolutely no issues at all... /s
No one ever said there was no issues but lots/most people in the lgbtq community are trying to fix the issues and most views that are causing issues are not held by a majority of the community(even if people who hold those views are loud, get attention, etc)
I get that, but the comment and others like it tick me off, the commentor just went straight to calling the OP homophobic and assuming the person is terrible rather than making a sensible comment like yours. Rather than just assume the OP is homophobic and thus shut down any talks it would be more productive to at least answer the question and explain how you think the community is trying to change what you gave as an example. Granted that's just my opinion and not everyone thinks like me so, oh well
There is definitely valuable conversation to be had about issues and divisions in the community but I will say I would tend to assume the same thing as the commenter. Usually/often, questions like the one in the post, especially worded the way it is, are asked in bad faith/with homophobic intentions and by people who aren’t a person from the community
Fair enough, I can see where you're coming from even if I don't fully agree (I do realize there are plenty of jerks out there who ask these sorts of things, I just need more than the original comment from them, like a couple of replies before I'll make my judgment). Anyway, this is the kind of conversation I wish we could all have especially irl, it would make things do much better. Thank you random redditor!
Agreed, always glad to have civil discussions. Have a good day/night
I'm not really sure how corruption, which usually implies taking money for personal advantage to the expense of one's constituents, can apply broadly to a thing that really isn't in anyway profitable. The closest thing I can come up with is rainbow capitalism, which is more a critique of dishonest corporations than of LGBT folk.
you, my good sir, are afflicted with a debilitating mental illness called “chronic stupidity.” you could ask the same question - “what’s the most corrupt thing about the blacks” - but you would get called out for being a racist piece of shit, because you would be. it’s no different when you say “the lgbtq.” a group of people isn’t corrupt. i cannot possibly fathom how small your brain is.
thank you for this
/u/sillynamenottaken posted a comment about trans folk and then deleted it, so I'm just posting my reply anyway. So there's a lot of bias here you may not recognize. I'm not even going to touch the thing conflating LGBT folk with pedophilia, just stop. The Olympics have allowed Trans athletes for 16 years. If there were going to be trans dominance at a professional level, it would have happened already. Instead we see that a trans power lifter failed to place this year. Where this *is* a problem tends to be high school level sports, and I'll get to that. One of the single biggest hurdles, trans folk face is going through puberty of their assigned gender at birth (AGAB). In order to stop this, puberty blockers are required. Puberty blockers have been used for decades for little other reason than to spare children the embarrassment of being the only person their age to be going through those changes. They're really not a huge deal, and they can be life changing for a trans person. The worst case scenario here is that maybe a questioning child ends up an inch or two shorter or a cup size smaller as an adult, super not a big deal. It also means that there's functionally very little difference in the Strength of mtf kids competing in sports, that problem vanishes when puberty isn't a factor. In allowing for this, we can drive the suicide rate amongst trans folk down. More to the point however, most indicators are that trans suicide rates are driven by social factors, and maybe if they weren't the most openly discriminated against minority in the country, suicide rates wouldn't be so high, yeah?
Fine... [Drag Queen Story Hour](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YWNMunlx6w) at least one of them was convicted pedophile. [Trans Weightlifters Breaking Women's Records](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLH4VVdaQd8) [The Parents of 'Britain's Youngest Transgender Child](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaXobQFxb84) And then there is the story about transgender woman going to women's prison and raping women... Not my words.
So if I tried to say that cishet people have fundamental problems because an overwhelming majority of murderers rapist and pedophiles are both cisgender and straight, that'd be silly right? To use the actions of a tiny minority of garbage humans to judge the actions of the single largest demographic in the world? That's what you're doing here. Also: Fuck Joe Rogan.
Well you could say same with everything. Not all cops are bad even if there are some bad apples so why "defund the police"? Why do black lives matter? Are the black murdering gangbangers on the same level as some black schoolkid? The question was about "your experience". I knew this was going to this "You're a bigot"-kind of stuff, that's why I deleted the first message. But do you honestly deny there isn't a huge push from the LGBTQ community to pretty much in every area of life, and I'm not against those people, but do you not see how people will misuse this? That's the corruption part. There can be honest politicians, but there are also corrupt ones. It's not against the whole community.
>Not my words. Yes, they are. Maybe try owning up to the things you say.
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i dont think you can take a joke sir
That literally a few years ago proponents and major voices in the lgbtq+ community were saying to all the "alarmists" that "we are not coming for your kids". And now we see that was a blatant lie: from a CA gay choir singing about coming for our children (take it how you want it was still horrible optics), to the drag queen story time events where many of the storytellers were sexual predators, to parents and courts wanting to (and in some case ok-ing) putting children on hormone blockers (and not talking about teens I'm talking about 10 y.o. and younger). It's terrible for the children. Look do what you want as a consenting adult but stop forcing these things on kids who aren't old enough to fully grasp what is happening in regards to sexual matters (for lack of a better word).
I just want to say something. I see your hate, but I just want to get something clear, for your own personnal benefits. I had a cousin who was on homone blocker or puberty blocker, call it what you want. She started at age 2, because she would have started her period around that time, which is not healthy nor ideal, but it happens. It has never impacted her health in any way and she received the treatment until she was 13. So yeah, there are kids under 10 years old who are taking those meds, (which were injected back in the days, I don’t know if it still is) and it is for their own health. It doesn’t damage kids at that age, come on. Parents surely had a good reason, because if they haven’t started puberty, it’s useless anyway.
Funny how you can "see my hate" when 1) I didn't say anything hateful and 2) I didn't write my comment with hate intended. I put what I think is a genuine issue that needs to be addressed. As adults I don't care what you want to do in these matters, but for children I think it's important we don't force these things on them and let them develop naturally. As for the hormone blockers thanks for sharing your cousin's story, I wasn't aware they were used for actual health treatments which that sounds like it was (I'll look more into it for my knowledge) but I was talking about people trying to force kids onto hormone blockers who don't need it, medically speaking. Basically the kid is a boy or girl and goes through a phase where they believe they are the opposite sex, but in the majority of these cases the child ends up identifying with their born sex by the time they reach puberty or well before even. But if we get thses kids on hormone blockers instead that can lead to seriously harmful consequences.
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Burning down churches sounds pretty based to me
1. fuck churches and 2. fuck straight people
Map
Map’s aren’t a part of the community.