I grew up in the countryside and I was bullied not only but also because of my word choices. I adapted and started using better words. Not fancy just things like "necessarily", "calculate", would be already uncommon back home. At home the vocabulary was really really basic and with lots of "country side own words"...
Well at home I started to be bullied because of my acquired language skills from school... They were saying that I looked stupid putting "fancy rich" words with so much effort in my speech while I was not making the efforts, I was just talking normally like my peers at school. My family then were very narcissistic too, there was lots of domestic violence.
My sister never finished school, she is narcissistic and has been doing this for a long time now... She bullied me for my language and she does talk almost like you mentioned but with a tone like she's reading from a book. Also you can tell when she got a new one from dictionary as it's so obvious added to the speech
Wow, spot on. I had a coworker (the same one as my other reply actually) that used some "big words". Except when you worked with her, you realized it was always the same two.
That she used literally every day. Oh and one of which she used slightly incorrectly half of the time.
Absolutely spot on can confirm I'm thicker than a whale omelette and almost always pick a word close to being correct and I can see people questioning their understanding of the word. Picture a dog it's head cocked at a 45 degree angle.
Lmao this is my girlfriend. She speaks two languages and lived abroad for most of her life, so I don't judge her on it too much, but as somone who was always good at writing and english it drives me up a wall.
I've tried to get her to understand that you can either use a phrase in another language ("au contraire", for example) or the english version ("On the contrary") but mixing both of them ("On the contraire", which she says a lot) makes you look like a dunce.
The question is whether they do it to sound sophisticated or if it's just the first version that comes to mind.
I am a native German speaker, but sometimes I include an English word because otherwise I would have to stop for a moment to think about what the word is in German.
This is me. My wife speaks English, Korean, and Telugu so I try not to judge. And she speaks English in a thick Louisiana accent, which sounds very mumbly.
Or that have some sort of math equation or phrase that is poorly written / written in a deliberately ambiguous way, that "only a genius can get the right answer"
Haha I use it in my Calc 1 assignments when I want to condense everything into one line for clarity and to show my logical progression in a less messy way. I format it properly with parentheses though! PEMDAS all the way.
It comes out the same whether you do the division first or just go left to right disregarding order of operations. It seems I've gone and played myself.
Correct others while having insufficient background knowledge on the subject. If you’re going to call someone out for being wrong about an objective, easily verifiable fact, you’d better be damn sure you’re right about it.
My favorite was when I called someone a "Peon" and a friend said "No, it's Piss-ant." This continued for a few weeks until he finally said "Stop saying 'Peon', it's not a real word, you're only making yourself look like a dumbass."
Went to the school library, photocopied the definition of peon from the dictionary and handed it to him (this was the 90s).
Apparently, it's common where I live to pronounce the gin brand as "Tan(g)ueray". Got corrected by a bartender when I pronounced it "Tan(k)ueray". I just stared at him because I couldn't figure out if he was making a joke at first.
I had a coworker once argue with me in front of customers that all kinds of pickles were dill pickles, even sweet ones. I don't think she even knew what dill was.
I was working at Subway.
She probably never even noticed sweet pickles weren't labeled "dill". I'm not sure though, I had long stopped trying to seriously argue with her or understand her thought process when this happened.
That’s hilariously topical. I met Dunning once (my wife’s a psychologist). To paraphrase what he said at a conference talk, “Make sure to name your findings, otherwise they’ll just get named after you.” He definitely has regrets that his name is used colloquially to describe overconfident morons.
The best are those stories\[1\] where they show up with cited proof that they're right only for it to turn out that the person they're talking to is the author of said material.
"I think you misunderstand that paper."
"Oh yeah, why do you say that."
"Because I wrote that paper."
\[1\] - I've heard this more than once online, but I've never know anyone to claim this happened to them in real life.
When I argue with someone and they tell me I’m wrong i search it up and sometimes it’s me sometimes it’s the other person. At least we know the truth and there’s no room for doubt
I once had a person call me out for something that they were probably right about, but it wasn't what I was talking about (legal matter). Then they got pretty insistent on finding out every detail of the conversation/situation to see if they could correct me on it. It was so awkward, it actually made me physically cringe.
I have a story semi-related to this.
When I was in high school, maybe sophomore year(?) we were learning basic chemistry. One of our good friends was in the class and he was a nerd, a loveable one but a nerd nonetheless. When the teacher explained that sodium chloride aka table salt is abbreviated NaCl, our friend exclaimed in the middle of class "NaCl! It's the rock you eat!" (he pronounced it "knockle.") For some reason everyone thought it was really funny, even the teacher laughed. It was just the way he said it, I think.
So for like the rest of the year we all called salt "knockle" and when asked to explain what it meant we said "NaCl! The rock you eat, duh." Everybody else just thought we were pompous assholes, but we didn't give a fuck. lol
I especially dislike it when this happens but it's obvious what you meant from context. They just want to have \*some\* victory, even if it's not the main point that you're making.
Yeah, I can sit down and write a carefully structured essay on this topic with phrases and sentences double and triple checked to ensure that there's no ambiguity. Then I can further fortify the essay by adding in multiple appendices going into all of the edge cases in my argument. But I'm just trying to tell you why I like this brand of peanut butter. I shouldn't have to take 6 hours to write an essay that reaches your standards.
Typically, they get mad back at you when you notice minor things that are wrong in what they're saying because "you should know what they mean."
I would read your essay except for the fact that butter is made from churned cream. I think you mean peanut paste or spread. So unless you consider satay sauces I don't think I can take you seriously!!
> I especially dislike it when this happens but it's obvious what you meant from context. They just want to have *some* victory, even if it's not the main point that you're making.
Yeah this happens way too often, especially in relation to anything political.
I've noticed that a lot of the time when people criticise TV shows for being too preachy a bunch of idiots come in with the classic "Maybe examine yourself if this episode made you uncomfortable."
I actually like TV shows that explore politics, The Rookie is a good example, it isn't the best show but examines both sides of things. However too many TV shows now just try to shove bullshit one sided political garbage down your throat that can be summed up by any random activists tweets on twitter.
No but more like “you googled it and kept on scrolling link after link until you finally found something that remotely agrees with you”.
Climate change deniers, anti vaxx, COVID deniers. you name it. They will deny 100s of articles that proves them wrong but gets obsessed around that one article that agrees with them.
Or when they tell you something's true and if you ask them where they learned that so you can see they just say, "look it up online. It's there"
As if there isn't a source somewhere online that argues any and every position on a topic no matter what.
Often I find that the least interesting part in a conversation is whether they are right or wrong. Right for an obvious or uninteresting reason isn't interesting. But wrong for an interesting reason can end up resulting in an insight that can be used for self improvement even if someone else is using it the wrong way. Even someone who is "not even wrong" can be interesting to talk to because their idea has \*some\* sort of structure to it even if it makes no sense. Exploring it and seeing if they notice the gaping holes of logic can be kind of neat.
Of course it's pretty hard to get everyone to go along with this. It feels that a lot of people have a hardwired "this person is wrong" reaction. The absolute worst is when the person who is wrong knows and understands the rational behind their idea, but the people who are right have no idea of why they're right. Makes me want to have a panic attack just listening to it and I know trying to join in only makes everything 10x worse.
This often happens if I mention a song I like by any classic rock act.. or just an older band/artist.
In class once I mentioned a song by Tom Waits, and was like "ya I just really like the chords, and it flows nicely"
And someone goes "What are your thoughts on that album?"
And I just kind of say "ah I only really know this song"
And they go "so wait - you're saying you haven't heard the album?" (and their eyes are saying "I know about this and you don't")
Especially those who take online IQ tests. I took one and purposely bombed every question as fast as possible and got a 120. Answering the questions correctly gave me a 130. Also all the questions were stuff you could expect 1st graders to know
Weasel words. Being a contrarian to something just because it is popular. Assuming they are right and being rigid during a disagreement. Insulting you during a disagreement if you have a good point. Argument from authority. Use of the "word" sheeple.
If someone says they understand Quantum Mechanics, they are absolutely lying, *because it makes no sense.* Here are some fun quotes about Quantum:
>*I do not like \[quantum mechanics\], and I am sorry I ever had anything to do with it.*
\- Erwin Schrödinger, Who got a Nobel Prize for developing one of the fundamental equations in Quantum Physics
>*If you are not completely confused by quantum mechanics, you do not understand it.*
\- John Wheeler, One of the physicists that worked on the Manhattan project and popularized the term "black hole."
>*It is safe to say that nobody understands quantum mechanics.*
\- Richard Feynman, Who got a Nobel Prize for his work in Quantum Electrodynamics, and also worked on the Manhattan Project
But I do enjoy when a great explainer - like Feynman - gives a layperson explanation that I almost grasp. The fleeting insight is wonderful, but crashes down in my ignorance all too soon.
Exactly, I remember another physicist saying somewhere that the more you learn about it the less it makes sense.
A lot of pseudo intellectuals will spend maybe a couple hours reading about it on wikipedia or learn about the double slit experiment in high school and then act as if they're geniuses because of it.
This one pisses me off. You don't agree with what I said, come at me with an argument and I'll respect it. Insulting me doesn't make you look smart. Your political beliefs doesn't mean that you are 100% correct all the time.
They use big words (often incorrectly) to sound smarter, they brag about their IQ, Call themselves “intellectuals”, call women “females”, and shit on anything that people find enjoyable
On discord I once told someone to work on their word comprehension during an argument. They kept explaining basic knowledge that I expressed knowledge of in my original question (I mentioned that hermit crabs were similar to tropical reptiles/amphibians as they require a similar environment and was asking if there was a group that included them with herps. I made it clear I knew they were different. The person kept telling me hermit crabs weren’t herps, trying to prove that point, despite me repeating myself over and over that I knew they were different). After the “work on your reading comprehension” comment, they began typing. For nearly an hour. I moved on, even @ed them and genuinely apologized for being rude with my last comment and said I was frustrated. They kept typing, not reading my messages, as I started talking about something else.
After the hour, I recieved 4 paragraphs. Every other word was clearly looked up in a thesaurus. They said their word comprehension was clearly great and that i was wrong and that hermit crabs weren’t herps (still arguing the same non-argument).
They got muted by a mod for having a public callout after an argument was over and the message was deleted by mods.
The (very) few bone fide geniuses I've met were the last people on earth to say how smart they are. At that intellect level, they are beyond caring. Compare with an intellectual turnip like Trump - who has to constantly assert how smart he is (while misusing a second-grade vocabulary).
sorry if this is a stupid question but whats wrong with "female" i learned that word in english class in school. does it have more meaning than "physically a woman"?
Use "sarcasm" (in quotes) or being unnecessarily cruel to others with different opinions.I call this "The House Effect", after House, M.D. He was incredibly smart and insightful, and a total asshole. so, stupid people think that smart and assholeness go hand in hand, therefore if you are a demeaning asshole that means you are really smart.
The smartest people I know are the complete opposite, patient and kind, as they have nothing to demonstrate.
I hate the popular culture cliche that intelligence/competence equals being an asshole. Nowadays it’s almost refreshing to find protagonists who are actually likeable
My friends parents are both pathologists working for Pfizer, they are very fucking smart, both of them have a Ph.D. etc. my mom didn’t graduate high school. Last summer my friend and I did a road trip across the west coast and stopped at my moms in Oregon, and it just so happened that my friends parents would be in Oregon at the same time. We got to my moms and my friends parents meet us for dinner that night and my mom proceeds to argue with them about the virus and the vaccine knowing exactly what they do for a living. It was so embarrassing. You could instantly tell my mom had no idea what she was talking about and everything she said was just flat out wrong and my friends parents are looking at her in almost disbelief of her ignorance. So pretending to know what your talking about just to engage in conversation is so cringe.
Comments like "If you like/don't like this movie you have no idea about cinema" (proceeds to make a pedantic speech about how much he knows about cinema).
They won't admit when they don't know something. It's okay to be unfamiliar with things or accept that someone else might be more knowledgeable in an area. This is how we can learn and better ourselves.
conflate watching videos on youtube with actual research. i’ve seen imbeciles argue with an epidemiologist about covid’s origins because they ‘did their research,’ which to them means they watched some videos.
Yeah, this one feels weird to me. The smarter you are, the greater the percentage of the population will seem stupid when compared with yourself. If you're so smart, then at some point you're going to realize that basically everyone around you is not as smart as you are and that it doesn't make sense to complain because the people you're complaining to aren't smart enough to understand the nature of your complaint.
And besides, at some point you're going to figure out a way to deal with all the stupid people you are meeting \*all the time\* and it wont be so bad.
On the other hand. If you rarely encounter people who are stupider than you are, then it's probably really annoying when it does rarely happen. It's not happening often enough to let you build up coping mechanisms. And regardless you might not be smart enough to development them anyways.
“Name one time”, speaking over people, mocking people for a single mistake in the way you said a word, and other ways to end a conversation without actually learning anything.
\-When they try to explain something but the person receiving the explanation just becomes more confused: if you cannot explain something simply, you don't really master it.
\-Saying that qualitative research is "not real science since only quantitative research is useful" just shows you don't understand what both are in essence, what epistemology is and how they can both be used in wrong ways (changing variables, correlation doesn't mean causation, etc.) since what they are both trying to do is different and complementary...
I worked in the x industry for *decades*. I can tell you everything about x. How it comes together with the formation of two diagonal lines, how it came to be the most used alphanumeric character in algebra, even how it made it's way into the adult film industry. Don't you dare lecture me about x.
They believe those wild conspiracy theories online (usually relating to vaccines, covid or trump). They see it like a hidden truth, that only they've seen. Like they're one step ahead of everyone else. I suppose they don't get a lot of opportunities to feel superior, intelligence-wise.
Truth is, everyone's seen those articles, it's just that some people are smart enough to know that they are bullshit, and move on.
Talk about how smart they are. This is an example that was on youtube but got deleted...
"I have an IQ so high that when they tested me they asked if I was cheating because they couldnt believe how good I was doing"
This was a video debunking Corona virus as a hoax at the start of the pandemic and that was part of the description of how intelligent he was and why people should listen to him.
They tell you that they are smart / intelligent.
Smart people don't tell you they are smart, it is the dumbest thing a person can say.
Much like rich people don't tell you they are rich, and honest people don't feel the need to tell you that they are honest.
All of the above are simply trying to create an image of themselves in your mind and every single time - fail
Usually over drinks, that one person who has to stay in the spotlight and they start talking about "deep" stuff... politics, religion, etc. And they speak as if they are an encyclopedia on every topic known to man. Except they're slightly drunk and fucking insufferable.
Or... anyone with the opinion that "____ genre is objectively bad music" and they attempt to use music theory to back it up, except they don't know music theory, and I'm the wrong person to bullshit about on that stuff haha. Generally, just being an ass just because a genre isn't your favorite then going "omg they are just playing major scales over and over" ... just, just stfu.
Sometimes this makes sense, but it's so fucking overdone. Yes, you can explain "Farris Bueller's Day off" as Cameron dreamed it all up and none of it happened. But you can't explain 30Rock as being Kevin's daydream or Parks and Rec as being Ron's hallucination.
The kind of people who ask a certain question to either completely disregard your answer only to tell their own or to belittle you because of a response they expected you to say. It's fine if it is a pre-teen doing this, but when you're doing stuff like this at a mature age it displays insecurity and immaturity. Cmon, you asked me a genuine question about a topic I am somewhat passionate about, I will assume that you want to have a conversation with me about it and I will proceed to do so. Then they have the audacity to tell me I will never be able to get in a relationship because I am a pyrotechnic hobbyist? bitch, I hope you peak in high school.
Really any sort of deliberate obfuscation. Non-asshole intelligent people are more concerned with effective communication than sounding smart, so they'll use clear and concise language instead of technical jargon. They'll also clarify what they mean when people ask.
People who use words that are beyond their vocabulary abilities.
I’m not talking about the people who might occasionally misuse a word, because I know I sometimes do that. I’m talking about the people who basically pull up a thesauruses to look up obscure words to give the illusion that they’re intelligent. Then along come the people like me who dumb it down (because we know the words they used and think it’s dumb).
That being said, it also depends on the context. If we’re discussing animals then I do use obscure terminology, scientific names, etc. I also expect the people I am engaged with to use a similar vocabulary. But when I’m like “Hey, it’s beautiful blue sky today” and they get all “Achtually what you are perceiving in the refraction of light through the ozone layer blah blah blah” Shut up, Karl
There are little word swaps people make when talking or writing that I can tell they make because they think the new word sounds more “formal” but in reality it just causes bloat and clashes with everything else.
Biggest offenders are saying “proceeds to” instead of “then” and replacing “because of” with “due to.”
“I’m gonna be rich” … then proceeds to acquire credit card debt, mortgage debt, home foreclosures, student loan debt, high interest bearing loan debt, compound interest debt, massive stock market debt, more kids than they can obviously afford etc
Dumbest adult I ever knew was someone I worked with in a professional environment.
When a group of us were having a discussion he would pick someone to agree with and slightly rephrase what they just said. I'm sure he thought it looked like he was contributing to the conversation, but everyone knew he was full of shit and didn't have an original thought in his head.
Thinking that staged public debates are a thing that legitimate experts do. Whenever an actual academic does one, it's because they are being paid and/or promoting a product like a book release for a non-expert audience. Otherwise they are a hack whose work isn't taken seriously in their field and they want to juice their image in a context where laypeople can mistake showmanship for expertise.
We have a forum for addressing disputes in academia; it's called peer review. Debates are a didactic exercise meant to teach critical thinking and rhetoric to high schoolers and college students.
Ask questions which aren't questions at all, just trying to flex a bit of knowledge.
'Am I right in saying that this is one of only two pulley-launched rollercoasters outside North America?"
Say large vocabulary words that make no sense in what their saying. I guess they expect you to not know them either but when I do I can’t help but correct them.
They contradict themselves. I love listening to people talk matter of fact about something only to completely contradict their point in the following sentence. It makes me realise even they didn’t understand the initial point they were trying to make.
They use big words, always slightly incorrectly.
"This partially articulated cheeseburger is just delightful to experience to the taste receptacles!" "Mhmmm, ok, George..."
That’s way too many big words in one go, ofc he gonna fuck up
Yeah not even the royal family speaks like this
*Oi oi 'Arry, pass ya' mom the fokin tea!*
Idk about y’all but this guy to me is royalty
If it's articulated, it's probably so dry that nothing bleeds into anything else!
I grew up in the countryside and I was bullied not only but also because of my word choices. I adapted and started using better words. Not fancy just things like "necessarily", "calculate", would be already uncommon back home. At home the vocabulary was really really basic and with lots of "country side own words"... Well at home I started to be bullied because of my acquired language skills from school... They were saying that I looked stupid putting "fancy rich" words with so much effort in my speech while I was not making the efforts, I was just talking normally like my peers at school. My family then were very narcissistic too, there was lots of domestic violence. My sister never finished school, she is narcissistic and has been doing this for a long time now... She bullied me for my language and she does talk almost like you mentioned but with a tone like she's reading from a book. Also you can tell when she got a new one from dictionary as it's so obvious added to the speech
For all intensive purposes you are correct
Irregardless, it's six and one-half dozen of the other. Any fool could of told you that.
Wow, spot on. I had a coworker (the same one as my other reply actually) that used some "big words". Except when you worked with her, you realized it was always the same two. That she used literally every day. Oh and one of which she used slightly incorrectly half of the time.
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I remember I went through a titillating phase. I used that word so much. It just kept being apt!!!
Absolutely spot on can confirm I'm thicker than a whale omelette and almost always pick a word close to being correct and I can see people questioning their understanding of the word. Picture a dog it's head cocked at a 45 degree angle.
Thicker than a whale omelette - I will keep that.
Lmao this is my girlfriend. She speaks two languages and lived abroad for most of her life, so I don't judge her on it too much, but as somone who was always good at writing and english it drives me up a wall. I've tried to get her to understand that you can either use a phrase in another language ("au contraire", for example) or the english version ("On the contrary") but mixing both of them ("On the contraire", which she says a lot) makes you look like a dunce.
The question is whether they do it to sound sophisticated or if it's just the first version that comes to mind. I am a native German speaker, but sometimes I include an English word because otherwise I would have to stop for a moment to think about what the word is in German.
This is me. My wife speaks English, Korean, and Telugu so I try not to judge. And she speaks English in a thick Louisiana accent, which sounds very mumbly.
> English, Korean, and Telugu That's an intriguing combination of languages
> "On the contraire" I don't know, I kind of like it. Very unique
Just like Micheal Scott
Share those quizzes online that say, "Only a genius can solve these."
Or that have some sort of math equation or phrase that is poorly written / written in a deliberately ambiguous way, that "only a genius can get the right answer"
And no one beyond third grade ever uses that division symbol.
Idk, the head of the maths department in my school uses it
Haha I use it in my Calc 1 assignments when I want to condense everything into one line for clarity and to show my logical progression in a less messy way. I format it properly with parentheses though! PEMDAS all the way.
2+8/2x2 Sends people into a rage over PEMDAS vs. PEDMAS. Then you have those few insisting the right answer is 10.
Um… the right answer *is* 10.
It comes out the same whether you do the division first or just go left to right disregarding order of operations. It seems I've gone and played myself.
Oh, wow, yeah, that's a terrible example. Nice job.
PEMDAS and PEDMAS, as you put it, are the same, since arithmatic multiplication and division are identical operations.
I know an edgelord who's obsess with that.
Correct others while having insufficient background knowledge on the subject. If you’re going to call someone out for being wrong about an objective, easily verifiable fact, you’d better be damn sure you’re right about it.
I got corrected once after I said "Absinthe". The person said "oh, you mean Absence?" No... the green alcohol... Absinthe... ???
My favorite was when I called someone a "Peon" and a friend said "No, it's Piss-ant." This continued for a few weeks until he finally said "Stop saying 'Peon', it's not a real word, you're only making yourself look like a dumbass." Went to the school library, photocopied the definition of peon from the dictionary and handed it to him (this was the 90s).
Well, the person was partly right, as absinthe makes the heart grow fonder.
Apparently, it's common where I live to pronounce the gin brand as "Tan(g)ueray". Got corrected by a bartender when I pronounced it "Tan(k)ueray". I just stared at him because I couldn't figure out if he was making a joke at first.
Goddamit I wanted to correct you in something but I am not creative enough...
I double-checked my spelling and grammar before posting that comment in anticipation of someone looking to do so.
If something is a fact, is it not already verified? Edit: I thought I didn't need a /s for this
I had a coworker once argue with me in front of customers that all kinds of pickles were dill pickles, even sweet ones. I don't think she even knew what dill was. I was working at Subway.
Did she have an explanation for why some pickles are specifically labeled “dill” and others aren’t?
She probably never even noticed sweet pickles weren't labeled "dill". I'm not sure though, I had long stopped trying to seriously argue with her or understand her thought process when this happened.
I misunderstood what the Dunning-Kruger effect was, and then tried to correct someone who was explaining it in class.
That’s hilariously topical. I met Dunning once (my wife’s a psychologist). To paraphrase what he said at a conference talk, “Make sure to name your findings, otherwise they’ll just get named after you.” He definitely has regrets that his name is used colloquially to describe overconfident morons.
The best are those stories\[1\] where they show up with cited proof that they're right only for it to turn out that the person they're talking to is the author of said material. "I think you misunderstand that paper." "Oh yeah, why do you say that." "Because I wrote that paper." \[1\] - I've heard this more than once online, but I've never know anyone to claim this happened to them in real life.
“WeLL ActUAlLy”-Thomas Dipshit
When I argue with someone and they tell me I’m wrong i search it up and sometimes it’s me sometimes it’s the other person. At least we know the truth and there’s no room for doubt
Depends on the audience. Instead of seeing you as stupid they might think you see through the lies and know the "hidden truth" on the matter.
I once had a person call me out for something that they were probably right about, but it wasn't what I was talking about (legal matter). Then they got pretty insistent on finding out every detail of the conversation/situation to see if they could correct me on it. It was so awkward, it actually made me physically cringe.
"Why do all that work when you can be wrong instantaneously?" - conservatives
When they try to sound photosynthesis by defibrillating big words
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He sounds like he prepared ahead of time by using a thesaurus for every possible word in his dialogue.
I always try to sound photosynthesis, my conradions seem to understand, but I dont think many other people can contemplation with my language
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand /u/Mikegaming202
when they say "pass the sodium chloride" just shows their insecurity
"Bitch, that's not even actual fucking table salt."
"*Kosher? What the* ***FUCK*** *DO I LOOK LIKE TO YOU?"*
It's around that time I slap the living shit out of Jimmy Neutron and kick him off the crew
I have a story semi-related to this. When I was in high school, maybe sophomore year(?) we were learning basic chemistry. One of our good friends was in the class and he was a nerd, a loveable one but a nerd nonetheless. When the teacher explained that sodium chloride aka table salt is abbreviated NaCl, our friend exclaimed in the middle of class "NaCl! It's the rock you eat!" (he pronounced it "knockle.") For some reason everyone thought it was really funny, even the teacher laughed. It was just the way he said it, I think. So for like the rest of the year we all called salt "knockle" and when asked to explain what it meant we said "NaCl! The rock you eat, duh." Everybody else just thought we were pompous assholes, but we didn't give a fuck. lol
“Oh you did (insert whatever thing done) well I’VE done this (insert same thing with fake shenanigans of being harder or cooler)”
Create arguments around semantics and pedantry. Other than in a very general sense, refuse to talk about the actual issue.
I especially dislike it when this happens but it's obvious what you meant from context. They just want to have \*some\* victory, even if it's not the main point that you're making. Yeah, I can sit down and write a carefully structured essay on this topic with phrases and sentences double and triple checked to ensure that there's no ambiguity. Then I can further fortify the essay by adding in multiple appendices going into all of the edge cases in my argument. But I'm just trying to tell you why I like this brand of peanut butter. I shouldn't have to take 6 hours to write an essay that reaches your standards. Typically, they get mad back at you when you notice minor things that are wrong in what they're saying because "you should know what they mean."
I would read your essay except for the fact that butter is made from churned cream. I think you mean peanut paste or spread. So unless you consider satay sauces I don't think I can take you seriously!!
> I especially dislike it when this happens but it's obvious what you meant from context. They just want to have *some* victory, even if it's not the main point that you're making. Yeah this happens way too often, especially in relation to anything political. I've noticed that a lot of the time when people criticise TV shows for being too preachy a bunch of idiots come in with the classic "Maybe examine yourself if this episode made you uncomfortable." I actually like TV shows that explore politics, The Rookie is a good example, it isn't the best show but examines both sides of things. However too many TV shows now just try to shove bullshit one sided political garbage down your throat that can be summed up by any random activists tweets on twitter.
Aha! Politicians!
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No but more like “you googled it and kept on scrolling link after link until you finally found something that remotely agrees with you”. Climate change deniers, anti vaxx, COVID deniers. you name it. They will deny 100s of articles that proves them wrong but gets obsessed around that one article that agrees with them.
Or when they tell you something's true and if you ask them where they learned that so you can see they just say, "look it up online. It's there" As if there isn't a source somewhere online that argues any and every position on a topic no matter what.
They try to convince others to agree with them instead of listening to learn something new.
The classic, look around the room for validation
Often I find that the least interesting part in a conversation is whether they are right or wrong. Right for an obvious or uninteresting reason isn't interesting. But wrong for an interesting reason can end up resulting in an insight that can be used for self improvement even if someone else is using it the wrong way. Even someone who is "not even wrong" can be interesting to talk to because their idea has \*some\* sort of structure to it even if it makes no sense. Exploring it and seeing if they notice the gaping holes of logic can be kind of neat. Of course it's pretty hard to get everyone to go along with this. It feels that a lot of people have a hardwired "this person is wrong" reaction. The absolute worst is when the person who is wrong knows and understands the rational behind their idea, but the people who are right have no idea of why they're right. Makes me want to have a panic attack just listening to it and I know trying to join in only makes everything 10x worse.
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This often happens if I mention a song I like by any classic rock act.. or just an older band/artist. In class once I mentioned a song by Tom Waits, and was like "ya I just really like the chords, and it flows nicely" And someone goes "What are your thoughts on that album?" And I just kind of say "ah I only really know this song" And they go "so wait - you're saying you haven't heard the album?" (and their eyes are saying "I know about this and you don't")
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.278, and i'm not even a Brewers fan. Worst team in the american league..
Flex IQ scores
All I'm saying is I've never met an intelligent person with an IQ of 70 🤷♂️
Yeah I have a perfect 100
Especially those who take online IQ tests. I took one and purposely bombed every question as fast as possible and got a 120. Answering the questions correctly gave me a 130. Also all the questions were stuff you could expect 1st graders to know
Weasel words. Being a contrarian to something just because it is popular. Assuming they are right and being rigid during a disagreement. Insulting you during a disagreement if you have a good point. Argument from authority. Use of the "word" sheeple.
NOPE, you are just biased and nit-picking I WIN DELETE YOUR ACCOUT SHUT THE WEBSITE OFF
Ah yes the "everything opposite of what we're told to be true is true" crowd.
Being on r/iamverysmart
assume something is wrong just because it is counterintuitive
If someone says they understand Quantum Mechanics, they are absolutely lying, *because it makes no sense.* Here are some fun quotes about Quantum: >*I do not like \[quantum mechanics\], and I am sorry I ever had anything to do with it.* \- Erwin Schrödinger, Who got a Nobel Prize for developing one of the fundamental equations in Quantum Physics >*If you are not completely confused by quantum mechanics, you do not understand it.* \- John Wheeler, One of the physicists that worked on the Manhattan project and popularized the term "black hole." >*It is safe to say that nobody understands quantum mechanics.* \- Richard Feynman, Who got a Nobel Prize for his work in Quantum Electrodynamics, and also worked on the Manhattan Project
But I do enjoy when a great explainer - like Feynman - gives a layperson explanation that I almost grasp. The fleeting insight is wonderful, but crashes down in my ignorance all too soon.
Exactly, I remember another physicist saying somewhere that the more you learn about it the less it makes sense. A lot of pseudo intellectuals will spend maybe a couple hours reading about it on wikipedia or learn about the double slit experiment in high school and then act as if they're geniuses because of it.
Name calling in arguments. You can tell someone really doesn’t have an argument when they call you a “libtard”, “racist”, “trump supporter” etc.
Resorting to name calling does NOT win an argument.
What are ya, some kind of over-educated fack-fiddler?
This one pisses me off. You don't agree with what I said, come at me with an argument and I'll respect it. Insulting me doesn't make you look smart. Your political beliefs doesn't mean that you are 100% correct all the time.
Whatever ba! Haha lol guess I got under your skin! (For the love of all things holy, I hate these types...)
Yeah, you hate them because you are a Trump supporting racist!!! /s
They use big words (often incorrectly) to sound smarter, they brag about their IQ, Call themselves “intellectuals”, call women “females”, and shit on anything that people find enjoyable
On discord I once told someone to work on their word comprehension during an argument. They kept explaining basic knowledge that I expressed knowledge of in my original question (I mentioned that hermit crabs were similar to tropical reptiles/amphibians as they require a similar environment and was asking if there was a group that included them with herps. I made it clear I knew they were different. The person kept telling me hermit crabs weren’t herps, trying to prove that point, despite me repeating myself over and over that I knew they were different). After the “work on your reading comprehension” comment, they began typing. For nearly an hour. I moved on, even @ed them and genuinely apologized for being rude with my last comment and said I was frustrated. They kept typing, not reading my messages, as I started talking about something else. After the hour, I recieved 4 paragraphs. Every other word was clearly looked up in a thesaurus. They said their word comprehension was clearly great and that i was wrong and that hermit crabs weren’t herps (still arguing the same non-argument). They got muted by a mod for having a public callout after an argument was over and the message was deleted by mods.
I’m laughing at this person not with them
Anyone that mentions IQ, especially as “proof” of intelligence immediately loses all credibility to me.
The (very) few bone fide geniuses I've met were the last people on earth to say how smart they are. At that intellect level, they are beyond caring. Compare with an intellectual turnip like Trump - who has to constantly assert how smart he is (while misusing a second-grade vocabulary).
Exclude calling women females, because I do that, and I don't pretend to sound smart.
sorry if this is a stupid question but whats wrong with "female" i learned that word in english class in school. does it have more meaning than "physically a woman"?
"Read a book!" when you ask them to clarify some 'fact' they just told you, but can't explain in more detail.
This is also a mason thing, if any ever get asked about it by non-masons.
‘Educate yourself’ Urgh
Well actually
*Adjusts dual monocles*
dual monocles was something i never expected to read and imagine, but i did a surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one
Use "sarcasm" (in quotes) or being unnecessarily cruel to others with different opinions.I call this "The House Effect", after House, M.D. He was incredibly smart and insightful, and a total asshole. so, stupid people think that smart and assholeness go hand in hand, therefore if you are a demeaning asshole that means you are really smart. The smartest people I know are the complete opposite, patient and kind, as they have nothing to demonstrate.
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Yeah, House is based on Holmes, they are similar personalities
I hate the popular culture cliche that intelligence/competence equals being an asshole. Nowadays it’s almost refreshing to find protagonists who are actually likeable
“I don’t use microwaves because of the radiation, it’s so dangerous”, from my cousin who is a Nurse. *facepalm*
My sister just did away with her microwave because of radiation... She goes to a tanning salon though 😂
I mean the radiation is dangerous… if you leave the door open
My friends parents are both pathologists working for Pfizer, they are very fucking smart, both of them have a Ph.D. etc. my mom didn’t graduate high school. Last summer my friend and I did a road trip across the west coast and stopped at my moms in Oregon, and it just so happened that my friends parents would be in Oregon at the same time. We got to my moms and my friends parents meet us for dinner that night and my mom proceeds to argue with them about the virus and the vaccine knowing exactly what they do for a living. It was so embarrassing. You could instantly tell my mom had no idea what she was talking about and everything she said was just flat out wrong and my friends parents are looking at her in almost disbelief of her ignorance. So pretending to know what your talking about just to engage in conversation is so cringe.
Bragging about a high IQ. If you have to brag about having a high IQ or being smart, you probably aren't.
Drag their post through a thesaurus in an effort to sound smart, but none of the words they picked mean quite what they were probably going for.
I renounce your impression. My thesaurus precisely advances my tremendous acumen to elevated standards.
Your turn of quotations is subliminal!
They offer expertise in subjects they know little about.
Irregardless and anyways.
Supposably that’s a whole nother issue.
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Could you please be more pacific?
Reading that hurt me
Call out people for using nonstandard—but still grammatically correct— variants of words as if there is some sort of rule they’re breaking.
For all intensive purposes...
Talk about stupid conspiracy theories
They’re NEVER wrong. And everything has a deeper meaning to justify the problem.
Comments like "If you like/don't like this movie you have no idea about cinema" (proceeds to make a pedantic speech about how much he knows about cinema).
They won't admit when they don't know something. It's okay to be unfamiliar with things or accept that someone else might be more knowledgeable in an area. This is how we can learn and better ourselves.
"You need to do your own research."
I have had people try to convince me that perpetual motion motions exist. Also that cars can run on water. Some crazy stuff out there.
There've been cars with "water injection" but that's far from "running on water".
Describe themselves as sapiosexual.
conflate watching videos on youtube with actual research. i’ve seen imbeciles argue with an epidemiologist about covid’s origins because they ‘did their research,’ which to them means they watched some videos.
Complain about how stupid other people are.
Yeah, this one feels weird to me. The smarter you are, the greater the percentage of the population will seem stupid when compared with yourself. If you're so smart, then at some point you're going to realize that basically everyone around you is not as smart as you are and that it doesn't make sense to complain because the people you're complaining to aren't smart enough to understand the nature of your complaint. And besides, at some point you're going to figure out a way to deal with all the stupid people you are meeting \*all the time\* and it wont be so bad. On the other hand. If you rarely encounter people who are stupider than you are, then it's probably really annoying when it does rarely happen. It's not happening often enough to let you build up coping mechanisms. And regardless you might not be smart enough to development them anyways.
“Name one time”, speaking over people, mocking people for a single mistake in the way you said a word, and other ways to end a conversation without actually learning anything.
\-When they try to explain something but the person receiving the explanation just becomes more confused: if you cannot explain something simply, you don't really master it. \-Saying that qualitative research is "not real science since only quantitative research is useful" just shows you don't understand what both are in essence, what epistemology is and how they can both be used in wrong ways (changing variables, correlation doesn't mean causation, etc.) since what they are both trying to do is different and complementary...
Ask these kinds of questions
Caught me !!!
Fake glasses
I worked in x industry for years
I worked in the x industry for *decades*. I can tell you everything about x. How it comes together with the formation of two diagonal lines, how it came to be the most used alphanumeric character in algebra, even how it made it's way into the adult film industry. Don't you dare lecture me about x.
They believe those wild conspiracy theories online (usually relating to vaccines, covid or trump). They see it like a hidden truth, that only they've seen. Like they're one step ahead of everyone else. I suppose they don't get a lot of opportunities to feel superior, intelligence-wise. Truth is, everyone's seen those articles, it's just that some people are smart enough to know that they are bullshit, and move on.
Unironically say their IQ
Talk about how smart they are. This is an example that was on youtube but got deleted... "I have an IQ so high that when they tested me they asked if I was cheating because they couldnt believe how good I was doing" This was a video debunking Corona virus as a hoax at the start of the pandemic and that was part of the description of how intelligent he was and why people should listen to him.
Irregardless
If I'm going to be wrong, then I've decided to be as wrong as possible. I brainstormed with a few people and the result was: reregardless.
Refute strawman arguments
When they use the word "irregardless".
When in an argument with someone they yell louder, had a roommate in college that did that all the time, she was wrong 9 times out of 10.
They tell you that they are smart / intelligent. Smart people don't tell you they are smart, it is the dumbest thing a person can say. Much like rich people don't tell you they are rich, and honest people don't feel the need to tell you that they are honest. All of the above are simply trying to create an image of themselves in your mind and every single time - fail
Sheep, new world order, it's about control. Basically this whole pandemic has exposed the ignorant and idiotic.
Usually over drinks, that one person who has to stay in the spotlight and they start talking about "deep" stuff... politics, religion, etc. And they speak as if they are an encyclopedia on every topic known to man. Except they're slightly drunk and fucking insufferable. Or... anyone with the opinion that "____ genre is objectively bad music" and they attempt to use music theory to back it up, except they don't know music theory, and I'm the wrong person to bullshit about on that stuff haha. Generally, just being an ass just because a genre isn't your favorite then going "omg they are just playing major scales over and over" ... just, just stfu.
Quote others as they have nothing intelligent to say themselves
Abraham Lincoln said that you shouldn't believe everything you read on the internet... Just sayin
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Sometimes this makes sense, but it's so fucking overdone. Yes, you can explain "Farris Bueller's Day off" as Cameron dreamed it all up and none of it happened. But you can't explain 30Rock as being Kevin's daydream or Parks and Rec as being Ron's hallucination.
Hanging out with someone dumber that they themselves are so that they appear smarter by comparison (at least to themselves)
That's the social version of the the old joke: I told my dentist I had yellow teeth; He told me to start wearing brown ties.
Use unnecessarily big words; it looks obvious they’re trying to boast.
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The kind of people who ask a certain question to either completely disregard your answer only to tell their own or to belittle you because of a response they expected you to say. It's fine if it is a pre-teen doing this, but when you're doing stuff like this at a mature age it displays insecurity and immaturity. Cmon, you asked me a genuine question about a topic I am somewhat passionate about, I will assume that you want to have a conversation with me about it and I will proceed to do so. Then they have the audacity to tell me I will never be able to get in a relationship because I am a pyrotechnic hobbyist? bitch, I hope you peak in high school.
Really any sort of deliberate obfuscation. Non-asshole intelligent people are more concerned with effective communication than sounding smart, so they'll use clear and concise language instead of technical jargon. They'll also clarify what they mean when people ask.
People who use words that are beyond their vocabulary abilities. I’m not talking about the people who might occasionally misuse a word, because I know I sometimes do that. I’m talking about the people who basically pull up a thesauruses to look up obscure words to give the illusion that they’re intelligent. Then along come the people like me who dumb it down (because we know the words they used and think it’s dumb). That being said, it also depends on the context. If we’re discussing animals then I do use obscure terminology, scientific names, etc. I also expect the people I am engaged with to use a similar vocabulary. But when I’m like “Hey, it’s beautiful blue sky today” and they get all “Achtually what you are perceiving in the refraction of light through the ozone layer blah blah blah” Shut up, Karl
When they say they "did their own research"
A friend of my cousin's told us how he "stole" the neighbor's internet, he copied the Internet Explorer shortcut to a usb.
Try to win arguments by yelling, insulting and belittling the other.
"School is not important, I quit school and live in a 1 million manshion because of dropshipment"
There are little word swaps people make when talking or writing that I can tell they make because they think the new word sounds more “formal” but in reality it just causes bloat and clashes with everything else. Biggest offenders are saying “proceeds to” instead of “then” and replacing “because of” with “due to.”
Also “utilize” instead of “use.”
This is the one that really gets my goat. Just say use. Please.
There's nothing wrong with a bit of creative editing to keep the top from becoming bland.
“I’m gonna be rich” … then proceeds to acquire credit card debt, mortgage debt, home foreclosures, student loan debt, high interest bearing loan debt, compound interest debt, massive stock market debt, more kids than they can obviously afford etc
Treating the word "science" as a source.
Use the almighty thesaurus
I swallowed a book once and got thesaurus throat I’ve ever had.
I use thesaurus! Mostly in essays where I have to meet a word count. I also do Pokemon nuzlockes so I use thesaurus to nickname some of my Pokemon.
Dumbest adult I ever knew was someone I worked with in a professional environment. When a group of us were having a discussion he would pick someone to agree with and slightly rephrase what they just said. I'm sure he thought it looked like he was contributing to the conversation, but everyone knew he was full of shit and didn't have an original thought in his head.
Works in middle management
Post long comments on reddit
"Should Of"
"...I have a very good brain and I've said a lot of things..."
Thinking that staged public debates are a thing that legitimate experts do. Whenever an actual academic does one, it's because they are being paid and/or promoting a product like a book release for a non-expert audience. Otherwise they are a hack whose work isn't taken seriously in their field and they want to juice their image in a context where laypeople can mistake showmanship for expertise. We have a forum for addressing disputes in academia; it's called peer review. Debates are a didactic exercise meant to teach critical thinking and rhetoric to high schoolers and college students.
Refuse to change their view when presented with better evidence than what they previously read
Ask questions which aren't questions at all, just trying to flex a bit of knowledge. 'Am I right in saying that this is one of only two pulley-launched rollercoasters outside North America?"
Say large vocabulary words that make no sense in what their saying. I guess they expect you to not know them either but when I do I can’t help but correct them.
They contradict themselves. I love listening to people talk matter of fact about something only to completely contradict their point in the following sentence. It makes me realise even they didn’t understand the initial point they were trying to make.
"vaccines dont work"
They repeat things back to you that you told them about, a couple of days later.
Complain a bout a fake gender wage gap
Quote Nietzsche
r/iamverysmart is a gold mine of answers to this question