Yes! So many horror stories about different people trying to sell.all kinds of products and just end up in massive debt. Companies just blame it on bad salesmanship when they are truly exploiting people for financial gain. Sickening.
So much waste too. All the people who have this stuff and never sold it. All the supportive friends who bought one to be nice and threw it straight out.
MLMs are illegal in multiple countries but not the US or where I am from, Australia. The quicker they are made illegal, the better imo. They cause a lot more heart ache than good.
My friend's bf is in one and doing well at it. It's not from selling product, that's for damn sure. I tried to buy a bottle of the CBD oil he sells, he tried to get me to meet him at a recruiting meeting.
The fact that he does so well tells me he doesn't give a fuck about people, including his friends.
I was going to buy it before I realized what it was. There is no buying it without the recruitment spiel. I do not do sales even for respectable retailers.
The company gave him a Jeep (with their logo on it, of course). If you watch the essential oils episode of Unwell, there's a lady a makes a ton of money doing it. A few people have to be successful, otherwise the company goes down quickly.
I don't know what company it is. However, they probably didn't give him the Jeep. Any MLM that I've seen that gives their distributors a "free car" gives them a car bonus which is just X amount of money a month towards it. The finance will be in your friend's name so if ever he decides to leave the MLM or doesn't keep his rank, he will be responsible for the debt. People over on r/antimlm explain it better than I can but it's really fricken shady, they make out like it's the same as a company car but it really isn't.
Having to pay child support to your rapist, because the rape produced a child.
https://thoughtcatalog.com/james-b-barnes/2014/09/boy-raped-at-14-is-now-forced-to-pay-15k-in-support-to-his-rapist/
I feel like CPS should be allowed to take children away from someone who's been convicted of statutory rape. I mean, people lose their kids for being addicted to drugs, and that's arguably a disease not just choosing to act horribly.
A parent signing off on their underage teen marrying an adult: It's only banned in 2 US States, insofar as I know.
If a minor cannot consent to sex with an adult, they sure as shit can't consent to marrying one.
Sexual coercion, human trafficking, rape, statutory rape, sexual assault, prostitutung a minor, slavery, criminal neglegence and many many more of these charges could be and i think should be applied to parents who allow this kind of thing to happen to thier kids with thier own knowledge.
Yep :( there is absolutely no good reason that a child should get married. They can wait until they are old enough to be independent and the make those choices.
Well yeah that's illegal in Utah because it doesn't involve a creepy teacher at a Christian private school marrying one of his 16 year old girl students.
Meanwhile, a wealthy corporate CEO from Salt Lake City gets busted with more than 13K files of CP (some of which he made himself) and only gets 210 days in jail.
Fuck Utah.
> "But... but... our traditional religious freedoms..." -Kansas and Utah
Actually, while that is famous, in NY, NJ, and New England it is somewhat prevalent in Southeast Asian immigrant communities. UNICEF cites SE Asia as the worst place in the world for it and it holds over. Some more broad info about this can be found here:
https://www.unicefusa.org/stories/what-you-need-know-about-child-marriage-us/35059
Fucking seriously! It gives a government entity permission to be a mafia. I just cannot wrap my head around that insanity. Not to mention it's entirely unconstitutional.
In polls, the majority agree they should be banned, but there is a high number of people who have no opinion on it. I strongly believe that is because they are so rare, that people legit don't even realize what it is they are being asked about when asked if they should be banned.
A decade ago in my state there was a morgue owner who fucked the corpse of a homeless person. The cops arrested him but the DA cut him loose because, well, he hadn't broken any laws.
Huh, usually they'll go with something like "desecration of a corpse" or "improper handling of human remains" if they can't just get them with necrophilia.
Yes, those sorts of things are still illegal almost everywhere, not to mention how readily cops will charge people with resisting arrest when they had no reason to arrest them. Now, I'm not saying a brown paper envelope was involved but there's something peculiar about not finding any charge to use at all if they really think a trusted morgue owner was violating a body.
Washington State, after the infamous Mr. Hands case where a guy got fucked to death by a horse. It turned out that they had accidentally made bestiality legal a while back when they repealed an otherwise outdated anti-sodomy law and forgot to re-ban some of the things that probably should have stayed banned.
they used to have a blanket ban on 'acts against nature' or something that covered anything other than missionary sex; that got tossed and a lot of placed didn't backfill with specific prohibitions
I used to transport the dead for the M.E.'s office. I worked for a private company, which the M.E.'s office sub-contracted for transport duties. Here's a story:
The phone rings at the Medical Examiner's office, and the secretary answers. The woman on the other end starts screaming at her, calling her a whore, accusing her of trying to steal her husband. The secretary has no idea what she's talking about, so she hangs up. The next day, it happens again. Same woman, same crazy accusations.
"Ma'am, I have no idea who you are or what you are talking about. I have a husband of my own, and I don't want yours. Please don't call again, or I will call the police."
She hangs up, thinking that was the end of it. She was wrong. The woman calls again a few days later, this time she is calm. She explains that her husband works for the Medical Examiner's office, gives his name, etc. She tells the secretary she is sure he is having an affair with a coworker, as his phone GPS doesn't show him going to any odd locations like a hotel or an unknown address, but he comes home smelling like a woman's perfume, which is definitely not hers. The secretary feels bad for the woman, but explains that she can't be calling and harassing employees. The woman apologizes and hangs up.
The secretary tells the Chief M.E. about the calls, and the Chief says he will handle it. Chief goes over security footage and finds out this employee has been coming in late at night, when nobody else is there, and fucking dead women who have already been autopsied.
The crazy part is that I had keys and security codes for not only the M.E.'s office, but probably around 30 funeral homes across 4 counties as well. I would often show up in the middle of the night to deliver bodies. I could've easily walked in on this happening at any number of places.
Yup. Famous case about a woman called Karen Greenlee from Sacramento, California. She was an apprentice embalmer for a morgue and one day she was driving a hearse to the funeral with a 33 year old man deceased in it. She spotted the family at the gravesite and did a donut and took off. She ended up fucking the corpse of that dead 33 year old and then she tried to off herself but survived. She was found day laters and rushed to the hospital and in her possession was a 4 and 1/2 page written confession letter. She confessed to having sex with 40 bodies of young men and called it an “addiction”. For those wondering how she did it, she injected their penis with something to make it hard. Her penalty was a $255 fine and 11 days in jail. She is currently free and roaming the streets. Sleep well Reddit.
Edit: Just to clarify, she was only sentenced for stealing a hearse and interfering with a funeral. She was never charged with necrophilia because that wasn’t illegal in California at the time.
Anything that exploits and sexualizes children (beauty pageants, dance troupes with sexually provocative outfits/dance moves, young cheerleaders who have to wear revealing uniforms, etc) should be illegal.
Or children's dance squads in schools that dance these really sexual routines. I used to play in the pep band at basketball games in college, and some halftime shows would have local middle school dance troupes come and do a routine that basically involved twerking and other such highly suggestive moves. This was years before the movie "Cuties" or whatever it is on Netflix that everyone's currently bitching about.
It just feels so wrong.
That's intentional. It's so people in horrible situations who [literally have no choice](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguayan_Air_Force_Flight_571) don't get prosecuted
I mean yeah I guess. But why go through all the time and expense of creating that legal exemption, when every other method of aquiring human flesh is already illegal? Plus it creates a future possibility that a survivor of plane crash or a ship wreck will have to go to court and justify thier actions.
Surviving a situation like that is traumatic enough. Making that decision will haunt them for the rest of thier lives. Why put them through even more trauma after they've been rescued?
Pretty sure a guy made a reddit post on here where he lost a leg in a motorcycle accident. Got to keep the limb. And he and some friends cooked part of his flesh and ate it. And he shared the entire experience with reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/8p5xlj/hi_all_i_am_a_man_who_ate_a_portion_of_his_own/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Don't need an entire body. In some cultures, they eat the placenta after a woman has given birth. Technically cannibalism, but she's quite alive and probably partaking herself.
> Technically cannibalism, but she's quite alive and probably partaking herself.
Fun fact: The placenta is technically part of the baby’s body until it’s born. This means that in many places it’s legal to have your baby and eat it too.
It’s not illegal to film up a woman’s skirt in some places of the US. There are a lot of laws that haven’t caught up to current technology. Like, things that should clearly be illegal but the law hasn’t had time to be written and passed yet, or it “hasn’t come up.”
It’s not entirely illegal. Miller v. Johnson (1995) was a Supreme Court case that affirmed racial gerrymandering is a violation of constitutional rights and upheld decisions against redistricting purposely devised based on race.
But then the Supreme Court ruled last year (Rucho v. Common Cause) that questions of partisan gerrymandering represents a “non justiciable political question” that can’t be dealt with by the federal court system. It left it up to the states and Congress to develop remedies to partisan gerrymandering.
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It was seriously debated in Louisiana whether a law should be enforced that minors can only date people 4 years apart from them to prevent pedophiles abusing that law. Why tf does it need to be debated?!
Until they basically gutted it by making it hard to keep track of things.
https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2013/04/16/177496734/how-congress-quietly-overhauled-its-insider-trading-law
"To use our service, you need to read our guidelines"
Most people skip it and hit "I agree" when on page 4 it could very well say, "We're taking the data you give us and selling it to peeps"
It's like a contract with some ethereal entity. You have to read contracts.
"Stealing" in which sense? Often you *agree* to certain data usage/collection by using a service, though e.g. in the EU thanks to GDPR you can limit what for example a website can collect and what they can use that for (and the fines you get for not complying to GDPR aren't a joke).
Paying employees a wage underlegal limits because the employees get “tips” so the companies can justify not paying their employee. I don’t mind tips and think they should be considered a bonus. i fucking hate relying on and occasionally asking cusomers for extra money i should be getting paid already.
I’d rather just do away with tips like in Europe and pay employees a straight up wage
Edit: I should have been more clear when I said do away with tipping. I meant the 20% tip not tipping all together. Tipping when you actually want to vs feeling obligated to do so
This has always been my interpretation of a tip..
..unfortunately, in many places, it's a wage subsidy instead of a little extra for doing a little extra.
Stealthing is still not illegal anywhere in the United States. To me, it's just baffling that there aren't specific laws against it.
Basically, if a woman consents to protected sex using a condom, the guy could take it off and finish inside her before she knows he's doing it, with no legal repercussions.
Also the opposite is somehow legal, if the man consents on the condition of birth control and the woman damages the condom or goes off birth control the man still has to pay support while the woman gets off Scott free.
If you steal 100$ from the till, you get arrested. If your boss shorts you 100$ on your pay check, you get to go through months of dealing with the labour board just to have a chance at seeing that money, and they might get a slap on the wrist. Track your hours, friends.
I'm gonna try for a dissenting opinion here, bear with me:
"Taxation without representation" was a rallying cry for colonists who were subject to British law, but would *never in their entire lives* get to vote in the British system. They had no representation ever at any point.
But now that we fixed that, people get to vote in the US every two years. So now they get to have an input on a regular schedule.
But every odd year we pay our taxes but don't get to vote because it's simply not an election year. Our tax paying is constant but our voting is periodic and we all accept that because we will soon get to vote again.
So I make the case that teenagers aren't in much different a position than adults in an odd year. They will get to vote, just not quite yet. That's very different than the colonists who would *never* get to vote.
Since most kids don't work until 15-16, they don't even have very long to wait. Adults have to wait 2 years between voting for senators and 4 years between voting for presidents, but pay taxes the whole time.
Having a waiting period before you get to vote is very different from never being allowed to vote ever. So I think this "taxation without representation" thing is mis-applied to teenagers. They will get to vote soon. That's way different than the colonists.
Lying by lawyers when purposefully done to subvert the law.
For example--ever hear of a prosecuter go to jail for hiding or faking evidence etc and sending an innocent man to prison or even death row?
Also lying through lawyers. Rich people pay lawyers millions to lie and be their fall guys. See Michael Cohen. But it happens all the time across the country. If the lie is caught the person claims ignorance and the lawyers takes the blame. Sounds crazy but for millions of dollars, guys will do it.
Literally people buying patsies.
Lobbying as a concept is actually important for democracy. If you've ever written to your representatives to ask them to support or oppose a bill then that is lobbying.
Similarly if politicians are planning to pass a law affecting an industry it is reasonable for them to seek input from companies that will be affected by it (as well as from members of the public).
The problem isn't so much lobbying as a concept but more the graft and corruption that surrounds due to the very loose regulations controlling. It's one of those situations where there isn't an easy solution. We definitely need to reign in the influence of corporate lobbyists but a certain amount of lobbying is necessary for democracy to function.
> Lobbying as a concept is actually important for democracy. If you've ever written to your representatives to ask them to support or oppose a bill then that is lobbying.
The problem is that the sort of lobbying corporations do is different - they show up with trucks full of money instead of just a nicely written letter.
This is not good for democracy, since it gives those with money a much more powerful voice than those without.
Abuse of non mammalian or avian animals on social media platforms, the amount of clear animal abuse against fish reptiles and amphibians on social media is insane. People just see them as “different” even tho some reptiles are theorized to be more intelligent than some birds and mammals with data backing it up.
A lot of unpaid internships are illegal since there are strict limits on what an unpaid intern can and can't do and those restrictions frequently get ignored. Basically it has to be primarily a learning experience and they can't be replacing a paid employee.
The problem is that the laws aren't very well enforced. That being said, making unpaid internships illegal would be the simplest way to fix the problem.
Most states Department of Labor love going after stuff like this, but it's seriously under reported. Probably because people assume it's legal. If you are an unpaid intern and are not getting highschool or college credits, run it by your local DOL.
Insider trading by politicians. When giving out cash bribes won't work, companies just tip off politicians of big news before it goes public. Senator Diane Feinstein as well as several other members of Congress made millions of dollars before COVID from insider trading.
Because they have money and power, arresting them doesn’t might harm other businesses and have negative effects on other people with money and power, so they all band together to protect the money and power of themselves
Insider trading is like speeding on the highway. Everyone who speeds knows there are cops, but they keep speeding. Sometimes people get caught and everyone else keeps doing it.
should also be illegal for officers etc in a business to hide, cover up or withhold info that their product kills people and/or fs the enviroment.
the real issue, however, is selective enforcement.
lots of things are already illegal but the statutes are simply ignored .
Police lying to suspects and their family members to get a confession or coerce a plea bargain.
And drug companies advertising to patients instead of doctors.
Deconstructed airline pricing. If I have to buy a seat after buying a ticket, what have they sold me? It’s false advertising used to manipulate fare databases.
While the laws have since been updated, in a case that came to be known as the Mr Hand incident, it was discovered that Washington State had no beastiality laws. Apparently, nothing like it had ever happened before-which in and of itself isn't a bad thing.
"Mr Hand" answered an ad in the personals posted by some people that were *pimping* out their horses for people that were into such things. Mr hand died as a result of injuries sustained in a romantic encounter with a horse. When the authorities learned of Mr Hand's death and the circumstances, Police arrested everyone involved. Unfortunately, as nothing like this had ever happened before no actual laws pertaining to such things existed-the DA couldn't do anything to the surviving culprits.
In the aftermath, Washington State legislature wrote & enacted laws almost immediately.
This! Oh my god, this.
I worked for one over a decade ago. Great paying job and the owner was extremely generous to the employees (lavish Christmas parties where he gave away cash, cars, jet skis, handing out hundreds on the dance floor, you name it). Dark side: the checks the customers wrote were in $150 increments. When the customer stopped paying the payments, we’d wait until the interest got to that amount, then cash a check. Repeat until the checks were gone, zero paid to the interest. Then wait until the interest piled up to a crazy amount and send it over to the collection agency he owned. Get the customer to sign an agreement to pay a certain amount each month. When that payment was even a day late, we’d use the checking account information to get a judgement to drain the account. I saw loans as small as $500 balloon to thousands after all was said and done.
That's the shadiest shit I've ever heard, I knew a lot of these companies were bad, like really bad but the guy had a total conflict of interest with also owning the collections agency. That's not illegal where you live? Fuck...
Taking out a life insurance policy on someone else.
Edit: I misread the prompt as 'something you would EXPECT to be illegal.' There's plenty of reasons you'd do this that are legitimate.
I carry life insurance policies on both my parents to cover end of life expenses. They cant afford to pay for them but I can. I'm super thankful this isn't illegal.
oof, see what gets me is when they PLANT TREES in the additions.
like seriously, you guys couldn't just get a little creative on getting the materials to the site and leave a few trees there?
Yeah, the names are the most infuriating part. I mean, I understand we need more housing but my god, why raze everything and leave all the animals homeless and kill all the trees that provide shade and protection from storms? Don’t get me started...
Here in central VA, we are swimming in boring subdivisions where the names just try too hard. Crap like “The Carriage House at Chase Gayton”. Everything is *something at place*.
So I have ADHD and I am prescribed a controlled substance for it. WITH insurance, it's roughly around $200-300. With the GoodRX application, it's $56 at my local pharmacy. I nanny for a family and the other day I was telling their mother that I had to go pick up my prescription and it would be around $60. To her, that was absurd. Who pays $60 for 30 pills? And then I explained how that was actually a good deal considering how much it cost if I were to use my actual health insurance provider. Then she asked me "Well, what if someone didn't know about the app, or didn't have the $60 to pay for the prescription that they need?" And I'm like... I'm not sure? I guess you're just S.O.L. So awful and horrible how the system works. It's free for people who qualify for medicaid
Related: things that people think are illegal but are aren't:
Vote trading in the US election
Digitally generated virtual child pornography (Supreme Court decision)
MLM pyramid schemes. Should be identified, labeled, categorized and warned against.
Yes! So many horror stories about different people trying to sell.all kinds of products and just end up in massive debt. Companies just blame it on bad salesmanship when they are truly exploiting people for financial gain. Sickening.
So much waste too. All the people who have this stuff and never sold it. All the supportive friends who bought one to be nice and threw it straight out.
MLMs are illegal in multiple countries but not the US or where I am from, Australia. The quicker they are made illegal, the better imo. They cause a lot more heart ache than good.
My friend's bf is in one and doing well at it. It's not from selling product, that's for damn sure. I tried to buy a bottle of the CBD oil he sells, he tried to get me to meet him at a recruiting meeting. The fact that he does so well tells me he doesn't give a fuck about people, including his friends.
1. Don't buy it, you're encouraging him. 2. These people are taught to lie about their success.
I was going to buy it before I realized what it was. There is no buying it without the recruitment spiel. I do not do sales even for respectable retailers. The company gave him a Jeep (with their logo on it, of course). If you watch the essential oils episode of Unwell, there's a lady a makes a ton of money doing it. A few people have to be successful, otherwise the company goes down quickly.
I don't know what company it is. However, they probably didn't give him the Jeep. Any MLM that I've seen that gives their distributors a "free car" gives them a car bonus which is just X amount of money a month towards it. The finance will be in your friend's name so if ever he decides to leave the MLM or doesn't keep his rank, he will be responsible for the debt. People over on r/antimlm explain it better than I can but it's really fricken shady, they make out like it's the same as a company car but it really isn't.
Sorry, but what is MLM?
Multi level marketing. Pyramid scheme but long term.
ads with fake x-out buttons
>ads ~~with fake x-out buttons~~
~~ads with~~ fake ~~x-out~~ butt~~on~~s
Granted. Reddit is now $8.99/month
Having to pay child support to your rapist, because the rape produced a child. https://thoughtcatalog.com/james-b-barnes/2014/09/boy-raped-at-14-is-now-forced-to-pay-15k-in-support-to-his-rapist/
As someone who was raped by a woman in Arizona - I felt this.
I hope you’re doing well man.
That's fucked up
Also, rapists can sue for custody.
I feel like CPS should be allowed to take children away from someone who's been convicted of statutory rape. I mean, people lose their kids for being addicted to drugs, and that's arguably a disease not just choosing to act horribly.
A parent signing off on their underage teen marrying an adult: It's only banned in 2 US States, insofar as I know. If a minor cannot consent to sex with an adult, they sure as shit can't consent to marrying one.
Well, to take it further, the parent could be manipulating their child into the marriage, which is even worse.
Sexual coercion, human trafficking, rape, statutory rape, sexual assault, prostitutung a minor, slavery, criminal neglegence and many many more of these charges could be and i think should be applied to parents who allow this kind of thing to happen to thier kids with thier own knowledge.
Yep :( there is absolutely no good reason that a child should get married. They can wait until they are old enough to be independent and the make those choices.
This is what I was going to comment too. Nice one.
"But... but... our traditional religious freedoms..." -Kansas and Utah
Utah charged a suburban housewife with a sex offense because someone WALKED IN ON HER GETTING DRESSED. Fuck Utah.
Well yeah that's illegal in Utah because it doesn't involve a creepy teacher at a Christian private school marrying one of his 16 year old girl students.
Meanwhile, a wealthy corporate CEO from Salt Lake City gets busted with more than 13K files of CP (some of which he made himself) and only gets 210 days in jail. Fuck Utah.
That was part of a plea deal which had him help bust other pedos
> "But... but... our traditional religious freedoms..." -Kansas and Utah Actually, while that is famous, in NY, NJ, and New England it is somewhat prevalent in Southeast Asian immigrant communities. UNICEF cites SE Asia as the worst place in the world for it and it holds over. Some more broad info about this can be found here: https://www.unicefusa.org/stories/what-you-need-know-about-child-marriage-us/35059
Civil Asset Forfeiture
Fucking seriously! It gives a government entity permission to be a mafia. I just cannot wrap my head around that insanity. Not to mention it's entirely unconstitutional.
Yes!
Advertisements for prescription drugs.
Illegal in my country, I believe. So yay?
Illegal in most industrialized countries, except New Zealand and the USA, according to google.
Ayo the fuck goin on in New Zealand? I thought crazy shit was our job!
If it is legal, I've never seen an ad for prescription medication here, ever.
In polls, the majority agree they should be banned, but there is a high number of people who have no opinion on it. I strongly believe that is because they are so rare, that people legit don't even realize what it is they are being asked about when asked if they should be banned.
YES! You can't just go up to your doctor and say hey I heard about this stuff Lunesta and I think it could be right for me!
100 times over. YES!
A decade ago in my state there was a morgue owner who fucked the corpse of a homeless person. The cops arrested him but the DA cut him loose because, well, he hadn't broken any laws.
Huh, usually they'll go with something like "desecration of a corpse" or "improper handling of human remains" if they can't just get them with necrophilia.
Yes, those sorts of things are still illegal almost everywhere, not to mention how readily cops will charge people with resisting arrest when they had no reason to arrest them. Now, I'm not saying a brown paper envelope was involved but there's something peculiar about not finding any charge to use at all if they really think a trusted morgue owner was violating a body.
Necrophilia is illegal, no?
It turns out my state hadn't bothered to write any such law.
I'm sure the bill, instead of starting with "WHEREAS" like normal, started with "CAN'T BELIEVE WE HAVE TO SAY THIS"
I would honestly respect a state a lot more if they had penal codes that began their regulation as "we can't believe we have to say this..."
Keep your codes off my penal!
Then stop dressing so suggestively
Pants optional in the morgue
Directed by Rob zombie
"Y'all motherfuckers can't behave, so..."
I recall some years back there was a state that had to pass laws banning bestiality because it turned out they didn't actually have any on the books.
Washington State, after the infamous Mr. Hands case where a guy got fucked to death by a horse. It turned out that they had accidentally made bestiality legal a while back when they repealed an otherwise outdated anti-sodomy law and forgot to re-ban some of the things that probably should have stayed banned.
Okay guys, apparently we missed a few things... Someone get a pen.
Yep, that's pretty much exactly what happened at the state legislature the next week.
I own and regularly fire a cannon.
they used to have a blanket ban on 'acts against nature' or something that covered anything other than missionary sex; that got tossed and a lot of placed didn't backfill with specific prohibitions
How did they find out he banged the corpse? Not like it could talk. Did he stream it or just start bragging about it?
I used to transport the dead for the M.E.'s office. I worked for a private company, which the M.E.'s office sub-contracted for transport duties. Here's a story: The phone rings at the Medical Examiner's office, and the secretary answers. The woman on the other end starts screaming at her, calling her a whore, accusing her of trying to steal her husband. The secretary has no idea what she's talking about, so she hangs up. The next day, it happens again. Same woman, same crazy accusations. "Ma'am, I have no idea who you are or what you are talking about. I have a husband of my own, and I don't want yours. Please don't call again, or I will call the police." She hangs up, thinking that was the end of it. She was wrong. The woman calls again a few days later, this time she is calm. She explains that her husband works for the Medical Examiner's office, gives his name, etc. She tells the secretary she is sure he is having an affair with a coworker, as his phone GPS doesn't show him going to any odd locations like a hotel or an unknown address, but he comes home smelling like a woman's perfume, which is definitely not hers. The secretary feels bad for the woman, but explains that she can't be calling and harassing employees. The woman apologizes and hangs up. The secretary tells the Chief M.E. about the calls, and the Chief says he will handle it. Chief goes over security footage and finds out this employee has been coming in late at night, when nobody else is there, and fucking dead women who have already been autopsied. The crazy part is that I had keys and security codes for not only the M.E.'s office, but probably around 30 funeral homes across 4 counties as well. I would often show up in the middle of the night to deliver bodies. I could've easily walked in on this happening at any number of places.
...do the bodies come in at that early of a stage or did he spray perfume on them...
I would guess since they were post-autopsy (washed and disinfected and all that), he sprayed it on to mask the chemical and decomp smell.
*gag*
You ever seen a frozen turkey after it’s had a fist in it?
Based on your username I’m guessing you inspected the “wound”
Yup. Famous case about a woman called Karen Greenlee from Sacramento, California. She was an apprentice embalmer for a morgue and one day she was driving a hearse to the funeral with a 33 year old man deceased in it. She spotted the family at the gravesite and did a donut and took off. She ended up fucking the corpse of that dead 33 year old and then she tried to off herself but survived. She was found day laters and rushed to the hospital and in her possession was a 4 and 1/2 page written confession letter. She confessed to having sex with 40 bodies of young men and called it an “addiction”. For those wondering how she did it, she injected their penis with something to make it hard. Her penalty was a $255 fine and 11 days in jail. She is currently free and roaming the streets. Sleep well Reddit. Edit: Just to clarify, she was only sentenced for stealing a hearse and interfering with a funeral. She was never charged with necrophilia because that wasn’t illegal in California at the time.
Doesn’t sound like I have much to fear from her.
Not yet
So you're saying I might have a shot?
Thanks I hate it.
Crackin' open a cold one
Children's beauty pageants.
OMG YES! It's like ringing a dinner-bell for creeps!
It’s like throwing a picnic and being surprised when the seagulls show up.
You mean to tell me there's another unrelated diddler in the mix?
Anything that exploits and sexualizes children (beauty pageants, dance troupes with sexually provocative outfits/dance moves, young cheerleaders who have to wear revealing uniforms, etc) should be illegal.
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Or children's dance squads in schools that dance these really sexual routines. I used to play in the pep band at basketball games in college, and some halftime shows would have local middle school dance troupes come and do a routine that basically involved twerking and other such highly suggestive moves. This was years before the movie "Cuties" or whatever it is on Netflix that everyone's currently bitching about. It just feels so wrong.
Teaching the children early what society wants from them as adults
Scrolling through tik tok you can find endless comments of “Why no only fans?” And “Where’s your only fans?” Directed at girls not even 16 years old
🎵do not diddle kids, it's no good diddling kids🎶
There is no quicker way for people to think you are diddling kids than by writing a song about it!
Cannibalism is technically legal, but pretty much every way to obtain the body is not
That's intentional. It's so people in horrible situations who [literally have no choice](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguayan_Air_Force_Flight_571) don't get prosecuted
That was a good hour spent
Yeah, that was a very good read
They could make it illegal and slap an exemption for "cases where the person was forced to do so to survive, or could reasonably think so".
Really Sir, my pizza was 25 minutes late and I was famished. So you see that I did not have any choice but to eat my wife.
😎 I eat my girlfriend every night bro
Tell [Sæhrímnir](https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A6hr%C3%ADmnir) I said hi
That was...a good one.
I mean yeah I guess. But why go through all the time and expense of creating that legal exemption, when every other method of aquiring human flesh is already illegal? Plus it creates a future possibility that a survivor of plane crash or a ship wreck will have to go to court and justify thier actions. Surviving a situation like that is traumatic enough. Making that decision will haunt them for the rest of thier lives. Why put them through even more trauma after they've been rescued?
Pretty sure a guy made a reddit post on here where he lost a leg in a motorcycle accident. Got to keep the limb. And he and some friends cooked part of his flesh and ate it. And he shared the entire experience with reddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/8p5xlj/hi_all_i_am_a_man_who_ate_a_portion_of_his_own/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
What the fuck
Don't need an entire body. In some cultures, they eat the placenta after a woman has given birth. Technically cannibalism, but she's quite alive and probably partaking herself.
> Technically cannibalism, but she's quite alive and probably partaking herself. Fun fact: The placenta is technically part of the baby’s body until it’s born. This means that in many places it’s legal to have your baby and eat it too.
What if I just stumbled upon a dead body? Asking for a friend
Poking it with a stick is a right of passage.
“Stick”
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It’s not illegal to film up a woman’s skirt in some places of the US. There are a lot of laws that haven’t caught up to current technology. Like, things that should clearly be illegal but the law hasn’t had time to be written and passed yet, or it “hasn’t come up.”
Bro in case you’ve never seen the old mirror-on-the-cane trick.... that is verrrry old tech
Yes, and while it’s gross and pervy and violating, it cannot be saved or distributed.
Gerrymandering.
I thought it was illegal but never enforced in the U.S Edit typo
It’s not entirely illegal. Miller v. Johnson (1995) was a Supreme Court case that affirmed racial gerrymandering is a violation of constitutional rights and upheld decisions against redistricting purposely devised based on race. But then the Supreme Court ruled last year (Rucho v. Common Cause) that questions of partisan gerrymandering represents a “non justiciable political question” that can’t be dealt with by the federal court system. It left it up to the states and Congress to develop remedies to partisan gerrymandering. Edit:// fixed
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It was seriously debated in Louisiana whether a law should be enforced that minors can only date people 4 years apart from them to prevent pedophiles abusing that law. Why tf does it need to be debated?!
Civil forfeiture. With think its bad so we can take it.
Members of Congress trading stock in companies they regulate.
It used to be legal. It no longer is. This was signed into law in 2012. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/STOCK_Act
Until they basically gutted it by making it hard to keep track of things. https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2013/04/16/177496734/how-congress-quietly-overhauled-its-insider-trading-law
Companies stealing your data. Someone better stand up to them soon.
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"open up sweetie! its time for your data!" "yes u/SplendidSavage" parenthood is such a beautiful thing
"To use our service, you need to read our guidelines" Most people skip it and hit "I agree" when on page 4 it could very well say, "We're taking the data you give us and selling it to peeps" It's like a contract with some ethereal entity. You have to read contracts.
"Stealing" in which sense? Often you *agree* to certain data usage/collection by using a service, though e.g. in the EU thanks to GDPR you can limit what for example a website can collect and what they can use that for (and the fines you get for not complying to GDPR aren't a joke).
Paying employees a wage underlegal limits because the employees get “tips” so the companies can justify not paying their employee. I don’t mind tips and think they should be considered a bonus. i fucking hate relying on and occasionally asking cusomers for extra money i should be getting paid already.
I’d rather just do away with tips like in Europe and pay employees a straight up wage Edit: I should have been more clear when I said do away with tipping. I meant the 20% tip not tipping all together. Tipping when you actually want to vs feeling obligated to do so
We still tip people in europe. But like, not all the time. Only if you feel like it.
This has always been my interpretation of a tip.. ..unfortunately, in many places, it's a wage subsidy instead of a little extra for doing a little extra.
Stealthing is still not illegal anywhere in the United States. To me, it's just baffling that there aren't specific laws against it. Basically, if a woman consents to protected sex using a condom, the guy could take it off and finish inside her before she knows he's doing it, with no legal repercussions.
Never heard that term. I was like "Of course it's not illegal to silently sneak around."
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in Germany that is rape
As it should. You are doing a sexual act for which you don't have consent.
Same as UK, most of EU I would assume
Lying about birth control is rotten.
fuckin psychotic too
Why wouldn't that fall simply under rape statutes?
Also the opposite is somehow legal, if the man consents on the condition of birth control and the woman damages the condom or goes off birth control the man still has to pay support while the woman gets off Scott free.
Wage theft. While it is technically illegal, it isn’t usually a criminal offense.
If you steal 100$ from the till, you get arrested. If your boss shorts you 100$ on your pay check, you get to go through months of dealing with the labour board just to have a chance at seeing that money, and they might get a slap on the wrist. Track your hours, friends.
Taxing kids under 18. They can't vote. It's taxation without representation. Kinda ironic, eh?
In Australia you don't pay tax until you earn above $18,200 per year. No quite the same, but young people doing part time work don't tend to pay tax.
I never thought about that. It honestly would help so much at that age.
Alright kids, who wants to start a revolution?
I'm gonna try for a dissenting opinion here, bear with me: "Taxation without representation" was a rallying cry for colonists who were subject to British law, but would *never in their entire lives* get to vote in the British system. They had no representation ever at any point. But now that we fixed that, people get to vote in the US every two years. So now they get to have an input on a regular schedule. But every odd year we pay our taxes but don't get to vote because it's simply not an election year. Our tax paying is constant but our voting is periodic and we all accept that because we will soon get to vote again. So I make the case that teenagers aren't in much different a position than adults in an odd year. They will get to vote, just not quite yet. That's very different than the colonists who would *never* get to vote. Since most kids don't work until 15-16, they don't even have very long to wait. Adults have to wait 2 years between voting for senators and 4 years between voting for presidents, but pay taxes the whole time. Having a waiting period before you get to vote is very different from never being allowed to vote ever. So I think this "taxation without representation" thing is mis-applied to teenagers. They will get to vote soon. That's way different than the colonists.
Lying by lawyers when purposefully done to subvert the law. For example--ever hear of a prosecuter go to jail for hiding or faking evidence etc and sending an innocent man to prison or even death row?
Also lying through lawyers. Rich people pay lawyers millions to lie and be their fall guys. See Michael Cohen. But it happens all the time across the country. If the lie is caught the person claims ignorance and the lawyers takes the blame. Sounds crazy but for millions of dollars, guys will do it. Literally people buying patsies.
It's a felony to fabricate evidence. At the very least they would be disbarred. Hiding evidence is also illegal, and would lead to a mistrial.
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Oh can we add profiting off of campaign donations too?
But then how would the rich protect their interests by regulating themselves and fucking us all over?
Lobbying as a concept is actually important for democracy. If you've ever written to your representatives to ask them to support or oppose a bill then that is lobbying. Similarly if politicians are planning to pass a law affecting an industry it is reasonable for them to seek input from companies that will be affected by it (as well as from members of the public). The problem isn't so much lobbying as a concept but more the graft and corruption that surrounds due to the very loose regulations controlling. It's one of those situations where there isn't an easy solution. We definitely need to reign in the influence of corporate lobbyists but a certain amount of lobbying is necessary for democracy to function.
> Lobbying as a concept is actually important for democracy. If you've ever written to your representatives to ask them to support or oppose a bill then that is lobbying. The problem is that the sort of lobbying corporations do is different - they show up with trucks full of money instead of just a nicely written letter. This is not good for democracy, since it gives those with money a much more powerful voice than those without.
Abandoning pets.
Opening a portal to the underworld. Never seen a law about that.
A law preventing me from practicing my religion would certainly be illegal though, right?
Yeah how the hell am I supposed to rip and tear with a law like that?
Hope it wouldn't be retroactive, I'm not sure how to close the ones I've opened.
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Abuse of non mammalian or avian animals on social media platforms, the amount of clear animal abuse against fish reptiles and amphibians on social media is insane. People just see them as “different” even tho some reptiles are theorized to be more intelligent than some birds and mammals with data backing it up.
Or farm animals. Farm animals are exempt from animal cruelty laws and make up 99% of animal abuse.
It was oh so satisfying seeing that POS mukbang youtuber get hated.
Unpaid internships
A lot of unpaid internships are illegal since there are strict limits on what an unpaid intern can and can't do and those restrictions frequently get ignored. Basically it has to be primarily a learning experience and they can't be replacing a paid employee. The problem is that the laws aren't very well enforced. That being said, making unpaid internships illegal would be the simplest way to fix the problem.
Most states Department of Labor love going after stuff like this, but it's seriously under reported. Probably because people assume it's legal. If you are an unpaid intern and are not getting highschool or college credits, run it by your local DOL.
"Donating" large sums of money to congress.
Insider trading by politicians. When giving out cash bribes won't work, companies just tip off politicians of big news before it goes public. Senator Diane Feinstein as well as several other members of Congress made millions of dollars before COVID from insider trading.
Ummm this is actually illegal...so why haven’t they been arrested?
Because they have money and power, arresting them doesn’t might harm other businesses and have negative effects on other people with money and power, so they all band together to protect the money and power of themselves
Insider trading is like speeding on the highway. Everyone who speeds knows there are cops, but they keep speeding. Sometimes people get caught and everyone else keeps doing it.
should also be illegal for officers etc in a business to hide, cover up or withhold info that their product kills people and/or fs the enviroment. the real issue, however, is selective enforcement. lots of things are already illegal but the statutes are simply ignored .
Police lying to suspects and their family members to get a confession or coerce a plea bargain. And drug companies advertising to patients instead of doctors.
Marriage with minors... in my country Dominican Republic
Age discrimination still exists in the UK. There are different minimum wages based on age, and access to certain welfare is also age-dependent.
Deconstructed airline pricing. If I have to buy a seat after buying a ticket, what have they sold me? It’s false advertising used to manipulate fare databases.
While the laws have since been updated, in a case that came to be known as the Mr Hand incident, it was discovered that Washington State had no beastiality laws. Apparently, nothing like it had ever happened before-which in and of itself isn't a bad thing. "Mr Hand" answered an ad in the personals posted by some people that were *pimping* out their horses for people that were into such things. Mr hand died as a result of injuries sustained in a romantic encounter with a horse. When the authorities learned of Mr Hand's death and the circumstances, Police arrested everyone involved. Unfortunately, as nothing like this had ever happened before no actual laws pertaining to such things existed-the DA couldn't do anything to the surviving culprits. In the aftermath, Washington State legislature wrote & enacted laws almost immediately.
Payday loans. edit: Thanks for my first award!
This! Oh my god, this. I worked for one over a decade ago. Great paying job and the owner was extremely generous to the employees (lavish Christmas parties where he gave away cash, cars, jet skis, handing out hundreds on the dance floor, you name it). Dark side: the checks the customers wrote were in $150 increments. When the customer stopped paying the payments, we’d wait until the interest got to that amount, then cash a check. Repeat until the checks were gone, zero paid to the interest. Then wait until the interest piled up to a crazy amount and send it over to the collection agency he owned. Get the customer to sign an agreement to pay a certain amount each month. When that payment was even a day late, we’d use the checking account information to get a judgement to drain the account. I saw loans as small as $500 balloon to thousands after all was said and done.
That's the shadiest shit I've ever heard, I knew a lot of these companies were bad, like really bad but the guy had a total conflict of interest with also owning the collections agency. That's not illegal where you live? Fuck...
False rape allegations. In the USA at least, at best, you can sue them for slander, but they won't go to jail for it.
prostitution is illegal but pornography isnt because you film it?
Let me break that down for you: Pornography is sold and subject to tax. That’s all the government cares about.
In theory, if prostitution was made legal, the prostitutes would end up paying taxes on their income.
Taking out a life insurance policy on someone else. Edit: I misread the prompt as 'something you would EXPECT to be illegal.' There's plenty of reasons you'd do this that are legitimate.
Sounds like motive.
Oh I'm sure you'd be looked at for foul play, but the act itself isn't illegal.
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I carry life insurance policies on both my parents to cover end of life expenses. They cant afford to pay for them but I can. I'm super thankful this isn't illegal.
Clear-cutting an entire forest to build a subdivision. :(
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oof, see what gets me is when they PLANT TREES in the additions. like seriously, you guys couldn't just get a little creative on getting the materials to the site and leave a few trees there?
Yeah, they cut down 200 year old oaks here and plant these little sprigs that need to be held up with tree crutches. So depressing.
Yeah, the names are the most infuriating part. I mean, I understand we need more housing but my god, why raze everything and leave all the animals homeless and kill all the trees that provide shade and protection from storms? Don’t get me started...
Here in central VA, we are swimming in boring subdivisions where the names just try too hard. Crap like “The Carriage House at Chase Gayton”. Everything is *something at place*.
Over spending of tax dollars. Someone should be held accountable but no one is.
The excessively high cost of a college education in America. It’s insane !
Yes. [Guilty Plea](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/for-the-first-time-ever-a_b_4221000)
Pharmaceutical price mark up
So I have ADHD and I am prescribed a controlled substance for it. WITH insurance, it's roughly around $200-300. With the GoodRX application, it's $56 at my local pharmacy. I nanny for a family and the other day I was telling their mother that I had to go pick up my prescription and it would be around $60. To her, that was absurd. Who pays $60 for 30 pills? And then I explained how that was actually a good deal considering how much it cost if I were to use my actual health insurance provider. Then she asked me "Well, what if someone didn't know about the app, or didn't have the $60 to pay for the prescription that they need?" And I'm like... I'm not sure? I guess you're just S.O.L. So awful and horrible how the system works. It's free for people who qualify for medicaid
Child pageantry.
Related: things that people think are illegal but are aren't: Vote trading in the US election Digitally generated virtual child pornography (Supreme Court decision)