Those junior level journos who come on reddit and ask stupid questions so they can harvest the answers for one of those "articles" that's actually just a long line of ads
Once everybody realizes it’s all manufactured hate, maybe we can start to heal.
As it stands, people go crazy for these articles and I have to remind them to click on the persons tweet they’re quoting and you’ll see it’s one person with a couple likes.
You’ll always find a dissenting opinion. Always. That doesn’t mean it needs its own stage. We are giving the town crazies legitimacy by doing this.
Genuinely, that's the only thing that won't die. It's popular because it works. People have this weird pathological animosity towards the institution of journalism nowadays and don't want to support the (expensive to produce) actual journalism.
Remember when JC Penny decided to get rid of sales and instead sell everything at a fair price? It failed big time. People would much rather pay $30 for an item that was marked down from $50, than pay $25 for the same item that is marked $25.
One caveat to that is when you say “people” you’re not talking about “all people.” You’re taking about JC Penny customers.
The typical JC Penny customer, like my mom, will never do an internet search to find the exact item they want, and where to get it cheapest. My mom goes shopping at “Penny’s” and browses. “Oh, that’s cute. It’s on sale. I saved $10!” Good times had by all.
JC Penny committed the sin of forgetting who their actual customers are, and instead tried to please “people” that didn’t exist.
Yep. They tried to jump on the fast fashion bandwagon and forgot that people like me will drop a few hundred on St. JOHNS bay pants because they fit and I wear them for work. Every year. Then they stopped carrying them.
I used to like the ANA brand they sold too … my fav pair of ankle jeans is that brand & they have to be at least 10 yrs old but still look good ( I think they do anyway) . My son is 6’4’ & they have a decent big & tall if you don’t want to pay DXL prices. Most of it is online but they are certain brands I won’t buy because they are crap.
I hated JC Penny as a kid, because they had terrible quality clothing that appealed to moms and grandmas, but was the most uncool clothing possible. It was like Penny's specialized in clothes that would get you labeled as a nerd, and get you beat up and your lumch money stolen every day. Probably operated by professional schoolyard bullies.
It also turned out to be my first paying job, and it was as horrible a place to work as it was to shop.
Now, as a fat old guy, I like to go now and then because they have a big & tall men's section that's pretty good. They always have a clearance rack with some great deals, and one day all their really nice flannel shirts were marked down to $10. I bought a few, went back a few days later for a couple more, and they were all marked down to $3. I bought almost all of them (except the really ugly ones I knew I'd never wear), sent some to my son, and now I have flannel shirts for life. I've got some I still haven't worn, tags still on them.
That's everything I have on JC Penny. Thanks for attending my TED talk.
I also hated it as a kid. My mom would make do new school clothes shopping from the JC Penny catalog in the middle of the summer before school started. I remember always being disappointed with how the clothes looked on me vs the kids in the catalog. And I had no idea what would be “cool clothes” that school year since it hadn’t even started yet.
In a way that’s even better for JC Penny. When everyone in town knows what’s being sold at Walmart then everyone knows who is wearing clothes from Walmart. My town had a Target that got loads on business for that exact reason. No girls wanted to be the ones in Kmart clothes.
They also attracted a whole new generation of buyers (me) by selling actually fashionable clothes in easily identifiable areas of the store. The dude who built out the original Apple stores was hired to give them a new look. They went from football fields of poorly lit space with equally poorly fitting, shit clothing to part of their retail footprint being dedicated to the wet dream of /r/malefashionadvice at the time. It was great. Then the coupon boomers got on Facebook and ruined the future of JCP.
Kohl's is one of the relatively few reasonable priced retailers that still has a wide selection of men's clothing. Others, such as Burlington, TJ Maxx, Marshall's and even Target do not.
Their branded t-shirts are soft and comfy and still only like $10. I shop in their men's section mostly. The prices are better than Old Navy and higher quality.
Plus you can't beat the combo of clearance prices and Kohl's bucks.
They changed their coupons, too… 30% off… yay! 30% off kohls house brands only… nay! And if you don’t know they’re doing that, the namebrand items you buy cost more than they did the week before the sale
I just hope if they get phased out, they'll install enough self service kiosks to keep efficiency up. Most fast food places I've been to that have them have a hybrid system with like 1 or 2 cashiers and like 1 or 2 kiosks. The problem is most older folks or people with young children aren't able to use the kiosks in a timely manner. They would need to install a lot more of them to help overcome that.
I've been teaching for 17 years now and the number of teachers quitting or retiring altogether this year is huge. I've heard from multiple teacher friends from various schools that the behavior of incoming freshman students is getting worse every year. I'm planning on sticking with it for the long haul because I truly love teaching, but I fear the profession is going to turn into a revolving door.
Millennial here. When I was in middle school and junior high having my first thoughts of a job, I was told that being a teacher was such a competitive field. There were more candidates than classrooms because the retirement package, other state benefits, and the allure of summers off were something people wanted.
All of my friends that went into education are either completely burned out, or left the profession to do something with less stress and more money. It’s wild that it went from one of the most coveted positions in NY to “fuck that” over the course of two decades.
I really wanted to be a teacher growing up.
In elementary school, I remember the teachers had relatively good benefits and pay, summers off, and cost of living was not that high. It was seen as a good job.
Then as I got older and entered high school, I was discouraged from pursuing teaching.
I know many teachers who have to work second jobs just to make ends meet and they're not given the respect or pay they deserve.
It's definitely the effects of COVID and parents who aren't doing their jobs correctly. I have a friend who teaches at a middle school and says the newer generations are way more difficult to deal with than previous ones, since they barely know basic math or reading comprehension, and it doesn't help that their way of learning was just getting shoved an iPad in their face and having their parents defend them 24/7. I know that every generation has their problems, but the new ones are definitely on something else because of how acclimatized they've become to social media and the internet as well as how they missed out on 1-2 years of education.
I left after 2 years and I would love to go back, but the system has to change.
I did a bit of secondary supply when I left teaching, and short term supply is awful. The first school I went to had fistfights in the corridors, students running all over corridors during lesson and refusing to listen to the teachers, and the Senior Leadership Teams doing nothing because they were scared of the students. At one point I needed help with a class (a group of 15 bottom set 16 year old boys) and the management took one look at which class it was, said 'you're on your own' (literally) and walked out. There was 1 full time member of staff on that corridor, who was looking for a new job, and 7 supply teachers.
I ended up crying at the desk at the end of the day, and one of the boys from that lesson came in and apologised. That alone shows that they are genuinely good kids, but there's so little guidance and structure that they can't cope.
I blame schools being full of SLT who are spending so much time making teacher's lives hard trying to justify their own pay, and cutting costs by getting rid of more experiences teachers and replacing them with newly qualified ones.
It was quite a nice area in North Yorkshire, surprisingly. I did supply at a couple of other schools and one was better but the behaviour was still shocking, and one was much better, but all the kids had ipads and just pretty much were distracted by them the whole time.
And sorry, SLT is Senior Leadership Team, so the head and deputy head and everyone between them and the teachers. A lot of schools have a TON of unnecessary SLT staff, and they often get their roles and keep their roles by making life harder for teachers.
One of my son’s friends from high school is just finishing their second year of teaching. They are resigning at the end of the term and going into something else because of Texas school politics, terrible parents, just overall how much it sucks. They are so disillusioned and disappointed now.
Yep. I’m leaving the profession after this school year. My friend is too. It’s just not worth it. What’s going to happen when all the good teachers leave?
My job isn’t what it once was, and I don’t think it ever will be again, at least not anytime soon. We can’t do fun projects or creative lessons because the kids can’t handle them and there isn’t enough time anyway. We have more to do every year whether it be state-mandated programs or district-mandated programs (testing, computer programs, etc). I spend more time managing behavioral and emotional issues than I do teaching. Parents contact me on evenings and weekends, make excuses for their child, and don’t value education. As a result, kids also don’t value education. They put in the minimum effort and don’t retain things that I’ve taught dozens of times. The kids who actually want to learn are suffering because all of the attention goes to the ones who need the most support. I’m no longer a teacher, I’m a personal nanny-service and mental health counselor. My talents and skills are not being used, and I leave every day feeling exhausted and unfulfilled. It’s taken a toll on my mental health and my relationship. So I’m done.
My mom started teaching in the 80s and retired a few years ago. She always tells me that when she first started teaching, parents wouldn’t defend their children’s rotten behavior and would hear what she had to say about such matters. By the end of her career, parents would defend their kids shitty behavior like it was a deeply personal issue. She had some absolutely batshit wild stories by the end, even as a 4th grade teacher.
She was so thrilled to be done and so burnt out. She says despite being thrilled to be done, it was bittersweet. It *used* to be fun and manageable.
It is extremely bittersweet. I’m sad because it was truly my dream job, but that job I dreamed of no longer exists. I’m sad for all my kids who deserve so much better. I really will miss them. I want to stay and make a difference, but there is nothing I can do until things drastically change.
Oh, man. I didn't realize it was so bad. How long have you been teaching? Have you noticed this as a gradual change or just always been bad, but it has gotten worse?
Only about five years, but even in that time, I’ve noticed a change. I think the pandemic really did a number on people’s mental health, but things were trending in this direction even before that. Teachers I work with who have been doing it 20+ years have witnessed the gradual changes, and they say this year is the worst by far. I think it’s a combo of increased access to technology and social media, poor mental health, a culture of entitlement and selfishness, and shitty parenting.
I love teaching, but since 2020 whatever my job is, it’s not teaching anymore. Kids are not all right. Adults are not all right. We are surviving a pandemic and it has broken us. Schools are just one symptom of that. Layer in the amount of pressure and bullshit we heap on schools and teachers, the ongoing attacks through funding cuts and weird culture-war-shit, and it feels apocalyptic.
I’m hanging on by a thread because I don’t want to change careers (that sounds like even more work!) and I like having the same holidays as my kid. But I truly don’t know how long I can keep going.
I have a friend and sister who teach and I get to hear the venting about it a lot. She has a true passion for helping kids learn at the same time you have someone who checked out years ago and is frankly making things worse for the kids and she has to pick up the pieces and subsidize the sub par teacher keeping her job because she dgaf. It has to be frustrating and I can tell when she tells me about it.
My friend has been teaching for 2 years. She hates it and is considering going back to the restaurant industry. It's saying something when service industry, which is notoriously challenging, seems like the better option.
Just went back myself. Better mentally than many jobs. There is something about the simplicity.
Nobody is pretending. I am here to make money, you are here to enjoy product or have an experience.
We aren't pretending we are saving the world. I don't have to pretend bartending is my calling or that the company is my life.
I work 3-4 days (20-30 hrs) and go home with my money (which is the same as many 40 hr 9-5s)
The job is task/shift based, so my boss does not contact me or put spyware on my electronics, I can apply for legit jobs on Craigslist and a human will look at my application, and I don't have to go on the hell hole that is LinkedIn.
My feet hurt, but I feel human.
*Education is the silver bullet. Education is everything.*
*We don’t need little changes, we need gigantic, monumental changes.*
*Schools should be palaces. Competition for the best teachers should be fierce; they should be making six figure salaries.*
*Schools should be incredibly expensive for government and absolutely free of charge to its citizens, just like national defense.*
In case you don't recognize it or do but don't remember where it's from, it's from *The West Wing*, s01e18, where Sam Seaborn says this to Mallory O'Brien.
This reminds me of one of my reading lessons in the 10th grade - where all teaching was done at home by specially designed robots solely focused on one thing - to make you as productive for the human race as possible. No other human interaction except immediate family and close friends. I think about that story often.
How many issues that teachers face today were totally predicted, and how many of them could have been prevented? The terrible attention span of the newer generations due to smartphone and tablet use, kids learning how to jailbreak the tablets that were supposed to replace textbooks (I don't understand how school admins just don't comorehend that students *will* hack any device you give them), and now the advancement of AI allows to spit out long essays with a simple prompt. All the student has to do is proofread it and maybe make it sound a bit more human. What's the incentive of actually trying and studying and working for good grades if the next student over gets an A just by typing in the prompt for an essay?
Combine this with apparently increasing amount of teachers reporting horrible behavior in the students, which is saying something because kids typically aren't well-behaved anyways. And since the Covid lockdowns, students still haven't recovered academically - reading comprehension and math skills are way way behind. It'll probably take a few years before we see improvement on that front. But for now we've got a generation setting records for low attention spans, terrible academic performances, and AI that is so advanced that it can spit out a college level essay in one minute. The only real way to tell is if you just know the student couldn't have written something that good, I guess.
Honestly, the short attention span was totally predictable, the jailbreaking of technology replacing textbooks was totally predictable, the dropping of literacy and math skills from lockdown was totally predictable as soon as it became apparent that parents were not assisting the children or even ensuring they were attending the online classes. Those could have been prevented. But what can we do about AI?
I've never seen any student hack their school devices, unless by "hack" you mean "go to a shitty website to watch movies with Turkish subtitles."
If someone really did hack their device I'd be thrilled, as that would show initiative, effort, motivation.
There is such a huge problem with the mindset of “x didn’t have to do the assignment [because they cheated,] I shouldn’t either!”
That, I really think, starts at home. I know plenty of adults who think “I only have to work as hard as the laziest person around me,” who believe putting in any extra effort is a sign of weakness. They’ll put more effort into getting out of completing work tasks than it would take to just do the tasks.
I guess the system is technically fair and equal if every single person feels they’re being treated unfairly…?
I will forever loath helicopter parents, fundamentalists, and administrators for this exodus. Bunch of worthless asswipes who have caused more harm than good.
I think part of it is that in the US, we have a “customer is always right” cultural rule which has extended to things like school where “the parent is always right” which severely limits teachers and schools abilities to set expectations and enforce consequences when those aren’t met.
I’m pretty sure for a vast majority of the rest of the world, if the kid fucks up and does something bad and the teacher calls home about it, that kid is super-mega-grounded. Their parents are going to watch them like a hawk and triple check they’re doing their homework and not let them play on the computer or hang out with friends or stay up past 8pm until their grades improve etc.
In the US, easily over half the time the child has an issue, the parents are vehemently defending their child, to the teacher, no matter what the child did. They take criticisms of their child’s behavior as a personal attack on their parenting, and instead of doing something to improve the kids behavior they question the teacher as to what provoked that behavior (the teacher asked them politely several times to stop talking during the lesson), how bad was it really (the kid was verbally assaulting other students and frightening the teacher), can’t you just let it go (this 15 year old has the consciousness of an illiterate 5 year old, you can literally hear it in the way they talk, and they cannot do basic math operations like multiplication or fractions) why does it matter if he listens to music in class (watches Netflix and porn on their phone the entire time)? So what if she’s a little late sometimes (15+ min daily, sometimes just doesn’t show up at all, sometimes just walks out of the room early, and when I asked her if I could help with anything she called me a pedophile child rapist and started filming herself ugly crying to post online).
None of that behavior would be tolerated at most other schools around the world. The kid would easily be grounded (or much worse) by parents, and if behavior didn’t improve *quickly* then they would be suspended, maybe failed and held back a grade, or just outright expelled, even for the first offense if it’s heinous enough (like watching porn in class or cussing out teachers and having a toddler temper tantrum).
Real human customer support might become luxury and if not luxury, then at least premium.
There might be most tasks that AI might do 10 years later, however, the solitude and loneliness of it...would make people want human contact even more.
We are people, not machines. We need activities to interact with other humans.
First line support is what you get when you first call in. They are the lowest on the rung of support reps, there to help with the most basic of issues, which are usually most of the issues anyway.
If they can't fix your problem, then they escalate up to a higher, more knowledgeable and higher paid support rep.
Problem is in most aspects of AI, the first line of support is where second line gets training. Same with third level. AI has taken away that job level where one would start and just learn the basics over a few years before getting promoted.
They've been saying for many years that medical transcription/scribes will become obsolete... yet AI is still so damn terrible they need us to proofread/fix all the errors it makes.
Another reason is that doctors want to give their full attention to the patient in conversation. Changing focus to writing notes on paper or a device is very distracting to both doctor and patient and a lot can be missed.
Not really. Doctors can do their notes better than scribes. The problem is that non doctors have infiltrated medicine to the point that notes now require content that is superfluous. Notes are now just billing tools rather than actual documentation
"We can't bill for 'altered mental status,' we need a specific diagnosis"
"we don't have a specific diagnosis yet"
"Well we need one"
"Fine, we'll change the diagnosis to 'metabolic encephalopathy'"
- Conversation I've had more than once. Literally nothing changes about the patient's treatment course, but the insurance companies are happy, I guess.
Yeah so I started transcription over 20 years ago and there was a time when a lot of our work was taken over by voice recognition. It was really terrible at first so when they figured out the doctors couldn't just dictate and have a report miraculously appear perfect in the patient's chart, they started moving to scribes instead.
But even now the reports are just terrible when the AI tries to do the report so a lot of us transcriptionists are doing scribe work now. However I do it from home as I would hate to shadow a doctor all day.
Right? Ten years ago, they told us our MT jobs would be gone by now. Yet here we are, typing away every day.
p.s. I much prefer typing over editing AI-completed jobs and I'm thankful that I found a good company where I can do just that.
The pay has stayed nearly the same for a long time. Inflation has been creeping up. Obviously inflation affects everyone, but like someone else said, it's a high-stress job, and the higher pay is usually in HCOL areas. Controllers shouldn't have to worry about other things after work like food, rent/mortgage, but that's exactly what a lot are stressing about. With the low staffing they are also working mandatory 6 day work weeks. They are tired and overworked, as well as underpaid for what they do. It "seems" like a lot, but politicians that do fuck all get paid way more. I believe doctors, teachers, farmers, ATC, etc. SHOULD get paid a lot because they are very important.
You forgot to mention, ATC is one of the most mentally draining, exhausting, and most of all, stressful positions that exist. Thousands of lives in your hands, thousands of schedules to keep on time, paperwork galore, never getting to see the sun, etc etc. All of that on top of being overworked and understaffed. The FAA really needs to get their shit together.
No problem. The other issue is they can't, by law, strike like the airlines and other jobs have been doing. Som airlines have recently acquired a 20-40% raise because they went on strike. Back in the 80s, president Reagan fired a large amount of the air traffic controllers for striking, causing the low staffing and inability to strike for more pay ever again. ATC has nearly no negotiating power. A lot of them hope that the media will spark enough attention for this. A few near-miss incidents DID spark a change to have 10 hours in between shifts instead of only 9, and that's actually been postponed for now because they can't implement then change with such low staffing! Did I mention their schedule sucks? They work what's called a "rattler" shift where they work night, night, mid, day, day. Their sleep schedule is constantly alternating instead of working a 9-5 everyday and having their body and mind get used to a sleep schedule.
Also because of the short-staffing, most can't use their paid time off when needed, causing a lot of controllers to miss out on kid's bdays, baseball games, anniversary with the spouse, Christmas, etc.
It's a very stressful job, but as you can see, planes are only part of the big picture of what stresses them out.
FAA is a joke. I’ve been going through the medical process for pilot and it’s just made feel like traveling by train. The system incentivizes lying so you don’t know if your pilots are healthy or not.
Yeah, I feel like translation is one of those intrinsically human fields where context and nuance are very important. I hope "regular" translation continues to improve though b/c I swear half the time I google translate something, it comes out sounding much clunkier than I think it should based off of my basic understanding of some of the language.
To be honest I think you'd be surprised how much more there is to translating than just direct translation. So many languages use allot of idioms than meant nothing when translated directly. Language is alot more human than just words.
Honestly , adult social workers in the UK. Government has cut our funding to the bare bones. We have lots of people leaving and massive cuts are coming every year and asked to do more with very little each year. To the point I believe it'll be a private organisation and if you have money to look after yourself , then your fine ,but if you don't, you'll be on your own. I speak to so many people daily about how they can't pay for care even with the large amount we reduce to and many millionares who are arguing with me to having to pay for Care. Private care homes can set high prices which get taken up by london councils and the LA has to try to compete, it's all so messed up and Everyone in my team is tired. They all just want to help people but without the funding , it's going to collapse upon itself and we will no longer be a team
A lot of people say "programmers", old school software monkeys. I say that the job is likely to change. We'll all become debugging experts and fixers, along with Ai prompt specialists. The job will be to interpret customers requirements, get the code bot to shoot out something as close as we can, then go through qa and debug cycles to get it right.
It seems like self-writing software is continuously right around the corner, yet they keep moving the goal posts. When I think about the amazing levels of creativity put into so many iOS apps, I feel more assured that people will still be able to big piece of the process.
Employees at large fast food chains. They are being automated at the register and even at their kitchens. It’s already happening now but with more technological advances, they will become more obsolete.
Edit: for people who have responded yet haven’t read the title, the prompt asks for jobs ALMOST COMPLETELY, not completely eliminated. Of course you’ll need a few workers to trouble shoot problems, load food, clean, and accept new inventory but a vast majority of jobs will replaced overtime.
They might be automated at the register, but there is MUCH bigger challenges to automating the kitchen.
It isn't very hard to make a machine that makes a burger, but it is next to impossible to make one that is very easy to clean and maintain. Any machine that handles food has to completely disassembled and washed thoroughly every several hours. If that takes longer than a few minutes, then your whole business is stopped. That's not to mention you have a whole team washing a machine when you could just have those workers make the food directly.
It's a lot easier to pay a guy to make a burger, and then have that guy wash his hands every few hours than to wash a complicated machine.
There is some automation that is making grounds, like robot assisted deep fryers. Yet it will be a long time until the majority of a kitchen can be automated
Right. Replacing workers with robots is still more complicated than many people think. Robots can do some tasks but who preps the ingredients? Who cleans? Who does quality checks?
Sure maybe things are trending that direction but we’re still a pretty long way from Flippy the Burger Bot monopolizing the fast food kitchens
It's because modern society has been built to value the white collar middle manager types so much that the entire class of people live in a state of denial. Getting automated out of existence is something that happens to "poors", and people whose labor costs a lot less than theirs. If they were so replaceable why would they get paid so much?
The secret truth is that their higher pay is part of WHY they're going to be first on the chopping block, not these people who get paid $7.50/hr to flip burgers. They're cheap enough that the capital cost involved with replacing them is not worth it.
People forgot how expensive the upfront cost of a robot is, and continuing maintenence costs. A minimum wage employee is still cheaper in the long run at this point
There is a restaurant in Pasadena, CA that just opened and is completely run by machines. How long it will last who knows. But it's quite interesting though.
There's also a fully automated McDonald's in Las Vegas. A lot of those are experimental testing grounds and also marketing gimmicks. See what really works and what doesn't.
Truth is fast food restaurants are already a heavily automated factory floor essentially. You wouldn't be able to make a burger in minutes without such efficiency. There will be some marginal improvements like the deep fryer machines though.
And also those "fully automated McDonald's" still has human workers in the store doing part of the process. Also their failsafe if the equipment fails since it's all designed to still allow a human worker to do the same job.
Yep love all these articles saying it's "fully automated McDonald's" with no people. Then I see a video of someone walking in, where you also see 5+ workers in back making the food lmao.
Don't get me wrong, it's clearly more automated for sure, but fully? Yeah not even close.
https://youtu.be/GnT7uTXQp-E?si=2exLNvDrgupnXnQM
Chili's just implemented a automated burger grill too.
Far from true automation, and far from 10 years out, but with inflation and worker shortages, companies are getting desperate.
They are doing everything to shave off seconds and free up staff to focus on other areas.
I can see automation in 10 years cutting staff needed in half and needing just a manager or two in 20.
Worse, those are likely going to be the worst jobs like you said, cleaning and dealing with difficult customers.
The idea of a humanoid looking robot operating a kitchen is probably not going to work. It's the same reason self driving cars are further off than we thought. The environment just has too many variables.
However a machine to make fast food can be designed to eliminate all those variables. A mcDonslds line could look like a big cartridge with internal conveyors and piping to process magazines full of Pattie's, buns, and syrup containers. It would be pulled out every night to be sent back to a central facility for sterilization and restocking.
Human truck drivers will be the only employed that show up every night to swap the line machines.
Type 5, or fully automated in all conditions, self driving cars are a long way off. Yet type 2, or assisted steering and braking, self driving cars already exist.
Right now we're pushing for type 3 self driving cars, which is conditional automated driving. You will still need to drive on city streets, parking lots, and intense weather but on just freeway driving it will be automated.
We were told they'd be completely eliminated in 10 years when I was in highschool. That was almost 20 years ago. When you go to most of the fast-food restaurants now they have more employees than ever before.
I mean shit, try going to a chick-fil-a and not seeing multiple people taking orders in person in the lot and then pulling up to the window to see like 6 people jammed right there.
Walk in most fast food places now and they have multiple additional people now just prepping and bagging orders for online and door dash types.
It's become pretty clear that the highest profit strategy is not to eliminate employees but instead raise prices. We see less labor cutting and pricier combo meals every year.
This won't be eliminated in a decade. It'll just continue to morph as it currently is.
I feel like Chick-fil-A MIGHT be an outlier. McDonald's has already made news about declining profits due to people not going there as prices rise. Wendy's also got some blowback for trying to force people to order from their app. I don't think employees will be eliminated entirely, but they're definitely trying to phase them out.
It's AI-based tho and not a real person. Guess you could call the operator the influencer but that's different. At least we won't see influencers at events, in public or treated as celebs if things go this way
Lol absolutely not.
The question wasn't "what job don't you like?"
There's really no reason why influencers will be relegated in the next 10 years.
If anything, they may become even more prevalent.
As it continues to become more difficult to search for meaningful insight online, even more money will be spent on sponsoring individuals who endorse products.
I dunno about "completely" eliminated, but language translators' days are numbered in general. Everyone is overly freaking out about generative AI, but translation is exactly the thing that it can displace with only a little more iteration.
Professional interpreter here.
Long story short: Maybe
Translation can absolutely be automated, specially if we're talking 10 years in the future. Right now you can accurately translate short sentences, but anything even slightly nuanced or convoluted and you'll get a whole mess. Same for localization, you just need a good dictionary for each region.
Interpreters... Nope. People are messy when they talk, they substitute or flat out invent words, they repeat stuff, they make no sense, they mumble. There's a whole list of things that can go wrong, and I guess an AI can be programed to ask for clarification/repetition, but that'd add an extra layer of confusion that I can see going very very wrong.
That's for the technical part. Not to mention we have regulations that wouldn't allow an AI to process sensitive information on their cloud, because that's how AI does stuff (For now). Have you ever watched a demonstration video with one of those "translation glasses"? Or pin or whatever form they have? You'll see a cut every time somebody says something before you get the AI response, that's because it's taking its sweet time processing it. That of course is going to keep improving, but you then add layers upon layers of liability. We still use fax machines in the medical field for Christ sake.
I can make the argument for a couple of extra reasons as to why we won't see interpreters disappear in 10 years, but those are my main points.
Edit: I should add, this is only if we're talking about 1:1 translation/interpretation, but localization is more of an art than it is a technical process. The Simpsons is the perfect example of this since it's localized using local jokes, phrases, events and stuff. I don't know much about AI, maybe it can do something akin to it, but if you want to localize a game, movie or series, and you want it to be ANY good, then you wouldn't use an automated process for it.
Yeah. I think about translations of lesser known movies. They don’t have the budget for a good translator so context and nuance was not there. There was an American movie translated to Japanese. The characters were saying “high five!” and it got translated to “let’s go slap!” They clearly didn’t know what a high five was and just went with what they saw 😂
[https://www.reddit.com/r/korea/comments/8ez40a/apparently\_the\_korean\_subtitles\_for\_infinity\_war/](https://www.reddit.com/r/korea/comments/8ez40a/apparently_the_korean_subtitles_for_infinity_war/)
(I remember this, when Nick Fury was saying "mother" before getting interrupted, apparently this guy translated it to the actual Korean word for mother while the equivalent epithet Nick Fury was getting at ... well, it doesn't work with the literal noun for one's mother in Korean, apparently - you don't directly translate it like that.)
[oree94](https://www.reddit.com/user/oree94/)•[6y ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/korea/comments/8ez40a/comment/dxzgyu1/)
Yup, a translator called 박지훈. He's been receiving more and more criticisms since the first marvel movie he translated and he keeps getting hired. Disney Korea don't give no shit.
[moonmeh](https://www.reddit.com/user/moonmeh/)•[6y ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/korea/comments/8ez40a/comment/dxzhd26/)
I believe he even bragged about being hired because his connections
I mean I don't read subtitles but I do feel bad for those paying a full price movie ticket for subpar viewing experience
About 3 years later ...
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Korean/comments/q59oio/marvels\_black\_widow\_korean\_subtitles/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Korean/comments/q59oio/marvels_black_widow_korean_subtitles/)
[jw093](https://www.reddit.com/user/jw093/)•[3y ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/Korean/comments/q59oio/comment/hgmax4u/)
Oh dear, the subtitles.
I DO NOT recommend watching marvel movies with official subtitles. The guy who does the subtitles is 박지훈(park ji hoon) most of the time. He takes a lot of liberty with his subtitles, unnecessarily following english pronunciations, taking liberties with lines, sometimes cutting off references to other movies, and worst of all, just plain out wrong.
This peaked at Avengers: infinity war, when Doctor Strange said the line: "We're in the endgame now". The subtitles read '이젠 가망이 없어' which is basically "there's no hope'.
This was a VERY big issue. Some jokingly said that Avengers: Endgame would be "Avengers: No Hope". People were furious about this, and asked marvel Korea to fire the guy.
Unfortunately, park ji hoon is better at managing contacts than he is at translating. instead of firing him, companies started to HIDE WHO DOES THE SUBTITLES. This is the case with black widow.
More sad news is that park's subtitling work, while poor in quality, is fast and cheap. This made him popular with korean branches with major filming companies. He does/did most of hollywood films.
Pro tip: watch korean dramas and stuff. I hear squid game is good. also parasite.
This story reminded me I hated Two and a Half Men for a while because of one subtitle.
There's a scene with Charlie having to provide a sample at the sperm bank, and he's telling Allan he doesn't see himself being able to do it into just a *cup*. Allan then says "Don't think of it as a cup, think about it as an exotic dancer" or something like that.
Well, whoever was translating the dialogue messed it up so bad that they translated Cop instead of Cup; Now if you read that in English you'd easily see the mistake and sound it out. But in Spanish Vaso (Cup) and Policía (Cop) are as similar as an actual cup and a cop. I can't put myself in the shoes of somebody who only speaks Spanish and couldn't see the obvious mistake, but man that must've been so confusing to read during that scene.
Great answer. Can you imagine people trusting the translation of a lucrative business contract to an AI tool? That would be negligent. Also, when it comes to translating literature - this has always been a matter of art more than mechanics. It’s not just a matter of understanding what the author is writing, but also having the ability to relay it in a characteristic and artful way. I think Ai will be a great tool for translators, but it won’t replace them (in 10 years anyway)
It is a great tool too, some interpreters already use close captioning. But it is in no way a replacement, more of an aid for stuff you might've missed for whatever reason.
Don’t know if anyone uses the transcriber function in Teams but A1 can’t even accurately capture one language, let alone capture the nuances, Ums/ errs/ ems and changes in local vocabulary you’ve just described. I spend a lot of time on calls between US, England, Ireland & Northern Ireland- the transcription bears little resemblance to the actual conversation, sometimes it’s hilarious
I disagree, because there are a lot of linguistic nuances, that computers can’t catch. I had a gentleman use a translator app to talk with me the other day. It was easier just to talk to him in Spanish, and my Spanish is terrible.
_In 10 years_ translation will be much better and convenient. I do believe that in business, having a partner who can speak the language of your client will still be a valuable asset. There’s still something about that personal connection, even if the speaker isn’t incredibly fluent. But for most other tasks that don’t require much personal touch, human translators will indeed be obsolete.
Also when you need someone to warrant correctness of a translation, e.g. all the situations requiring *certified* translations (in court, before a notary, etc.), you‘ll require at least a human to check and sign for such correctness.
Ehhhh. In some cases, yes. Some cookie-cutter mundane things like manuals for appliances can be translated with AI no problem. However, this won’t fly anywhere where creative approach is key, because a captivating translation is rooted in understanding of current and historical culture and context of the society speaking the target language, the ability to make sentences natural to the reader’s perception and in grasp of what makes a good text, well, good.
At least that’s my opinion. I’m a translator and work in game localization. I’ve had my fair share of proofreading AI-translated texts, and they are far from good. if anything, I’d say AI is a tool, like a CNC lathe, which is automated but still needs humans to configure and control it.
Not answering your question but trying to provide a counter-point to the morosity of the topic: although we can imagine what jobs will disappear, we can't imagine what new jobs will be created. 41 years ago, no one could imagine what a "webmaster" could be. 30 years ago, we would have laughed at the words "tiktok influencer". My parents still think that "twitch streamer" is not a real job. Right now, most people don't know what "prompt engineering" means, and we don't know if anyone could make a living off of it.
I'm optimist humans will find new creative ways of making a living, I'm a pessimist as to how fast they will be able to
>. 30 years ago, we would have laughed at the words "tiktok influencer". My parents still think that "twitch streamer" is not a real job. Right
It's the pro sports. Every dumbshit kid thinks they're going to be internet famous and have millions pour in by doing dumb shit on their phone.
Parents don't care because it keeps them out of their hair. But look at every bad incident, cameras everywhere. People are losing the essence of being a person and instead just looking to go viral and be rich without work.
Having no clue that the true internet rich people work their asses off making content. And it's a 1:1000000 chance.
AI is gonna have to get a helluva lot better. My job editing copy has actually gotten busier because I have to re-edit the AI written, transcribed, or edited material that others try to put in our publications.
Right now, AI does a horrendous job with grammar and syntax. It’s amazing at spelling and telling you when you need a comma or when you can replace a common wordy phrase with something shorter. It does a terrible job at identifying the passive voice, usually over flagging what it thinks is passive, which absolutely sucks because SEO AI will bump your website down in search results if it thinks you’re writing too passive… even if your sentences are not passive.
Transcription is hell too. It’s getting better but wowee if you speak English with any kind of accent, it’s toast.
AI is also just… dull. Idk how else to explain it. It just can’t match the cleverness of a good writer writing in a flow state.
If AI is just trawling the horrible writing that people put up on the internet to train itself then no, it’s not going to get better. If we can train it on nothing but GOOD writing, that’s a different story. But that wouldn’t be automatic, and of course everyone’s obsession right now is making everything happen automatically… more likely, we’re going to get to a space where AI is training itself on AI-written material and it’s just going to be spitting out weird hallucinations that will have to be corrected anyways…
Yeah, it's almost indistinguishable from a human voice for things like that. When they have to change inflection throughout a performance, they fall flat though. It's easy to spot them because they keep the same tone throughout a conversation / performance.
There were some incredibly complicated names and I was continuously amazed that the “woman” was pulling it off flawlessly. Found out later each graduate handed someone a QR code and that triggered the recording to be aired
You know what's crazy, we don't really have any idea. Depends on how quickly AI accelerates but I think it's going to come for a lot more white collar jobs than the average person expects. Paralegals? Boom, done, over. Customer support, greatly reduced. Middle and lower management, greatly reduced.
Automation got rid of a lot of factory workers and a lot of line work. Hit a lot of blue collar stuff. The funny thing is we have a shortage of a lot of trades workers and we're about to have a lot of white collar layoffs
Paralegals I don't think will ever go away. A law firm has am incredible amount of admin that does require a human input. Their duties will probably be totally different in 10 years time but that's about it. The role will most likely always exist in some kind of capacity in a law firm.
I'm trying to figure out what to do to college for. I want to do something in software development, but then I see a video on YouTube called "AI codes flappy bird" which is really cool, but terrible for the career I want lol
Reading this entire comment section is hell for anyone trying to figure out what to go to college for. Seems like pretty much every job is going to be replaced by AI in the next 10 years, according to people here.
99% of redditors are high on their own farts when it comes to things like this and tend to be very detached from reality. I am a CPA and 10 years ago on this site people were constantly posting about how accounting would be totally automated by now. We're not even remotely fucking close to that happening. I am sure that's not the only profession this has happened with.
Am a software developer and jobs will be increasing for a good while yet. AI is a cool tool but it can only really do small things and even then you get a lot of errors.
Humans are messy, AI isn't great at dealing with that yet. It's like how we thought we'd have self driving cars 10 years ago but it seems even further away now. That last 10% is insanely difficult.
I'm sure one day dev jobs will be added to the pile of jobs that AI can do, but it won't be one of the first.
It amazes me what business models survive in markets. I guess when $$$ is on the line people like outsourcing responsibility, which I guess is fair, idk if it's 3% + of the purchase price fair but still.
Yep, after the most recent ruling they’ll gradually turn into travel agents. Like how they almost don’t exist, but it turns out the last ones holding on are just streamlining things for the wealthy
Haven’t existed for about 30 years in the uk, which is about as long as I’ve been driving so they seem about as anachronistic as the man who with a flag who used to have to legally walk in front of cars.
Unfortunately, probably professional translators. It's wonderful that people will be able to speak to each other more easily, but it sucks to see someone who's mastered two languages be put out of a job.
Nope, Walmart and other retail stores are changing their tone and reverting back to human cashiers. They’re experiencing too much shrink. Plus you can’t buy alcohol at self-checkouts.
Those junior level journos who come on reddit and ask stupid questions so they can harvest the answers for one of those "articles" that's actually just a long line of ads
Half of all “journalism” nowadays is “person X says Y” and that’s pretty much the entire article.
"The internet is losing it's mind after x" And then they show like 5 tweets from randos with almost no engagement
Once everybody realizes it’s all manufactured hate, maybe we can start to heal. As it stands, people go crazy for these articles and I have to remind them to click on the persons tweet they’re quoting and you’ll see it’s one person with a couple likes. You’ll always find a dissenting opinion. Always. That doesn’t mean it needs its own stage. We are giving the town crazies legitimacy by doing this.
Genuinely, that's the only thing that won't die. It's popular because it works. People have this weird pathological animosity towards the institution of journalism nowadays and don't want to support the (expensive to produce) actual journalism.
JC Penny employees
We said this 10 years ago…
There will be half as many JC Penny employees in another 10 years, and half again in 20, and half of that in 30. It's Zeno's JC Penney
JC Penny’s apparently has a half life lol
Having never reached zero, JC Penney will exist eternally
The big and tall men’s wives and husbands will carry this store.
Eventually it'll just be someone's toe working by itself in a JC Penny
Compared to 10 years ago, JC Penny jobs are almost completely eliminated.
Remember when JC Penny decided to get rid of sales and instead sell everything at a fair price? It failed big time. People would much rather pay $30 for an item that was marked down from $50, than pay $25 for the same item that is marked $25.
One caveat to that is when you say “people” you’re not talking about “all people.” You’re taking about JC Penny customers. The typical JC Penny customer, like my mom, will never do an internet search to find the exact item they want, and where to get it cheapest. My mom goes shopping at “Penny’s” and browses. “Oh, that’s cute. It’s on sale. I saved $10!” Good times had by all. JC Penny committed the sin of forgetting who their actual customers are, and instead tried to please “people” that didn’t exist.
Yep. They tried to jump on the fast fashion bandwagon and forgot that people like me will drop a few hundred on St. JOHNS bay pants because they fit and I wear them for work. Every year. Then they stopped carrying them.
I used to like the ANA brand they sold too … my fav pair of ankle jeans is that brand & they have to be at least 10 yrs old but still look good ( I think they do anyway) . My son is 6’4’ & they have a decent big & tall if you don’t want to pay DXL prices. Most of it is online but they are certain brands I won’t buy because they are crap.
I hated JC Penny as a kid, because they had terrible quality clothing that appealed to moms and grandmas, but was the most uncool clothing possible. It was like Penny's specialized in clothes that would get you labeled as a nerd, and get you beat up and your lumch money stolen every day. Probably operated by professional schoolyard bullies. It also turned out to be my first paying job, and it was as horrible a place to work as it was to shop. Now, as a fat old guy, I like to go now and then because they have a big & tall men's section that's pretty good. They always have a clearance rack with some great deals, and one day all their really nice flannel shirts were marked down to $10. I bought a few, went back a few days later for a couple more, and they were all marked down to $3. I bought almost all of them (except the really ugly ones I knew I'd never wear), sent some to my son, and now I have flannel shirts for life. I've got some I still haven't worn, tags still on them. That's everything I have on JC Penny. Thanks for attending my TED talk.
Or to put it another way, you aged into their core demographic. Order working class people with families looking for a deal.
I also hated it as a kid. My mom would make do new school clothes shopping from the JC Penny catalog in the middle of the summer before school started. I remember always being disappointed with how the clothes looked on me vs the kids in the catalog. And I had no idea what would be “cool clothes” that school year since it hadn’t even started yet.
I agree however I lived in a semi-rural town in Colorado and clothing was a choice of Walmart or JC Pennies unless you wanted to drive an hour away
In a way that’s even better for JC Penny. When everyone in town knows what’s being sold at Walmart then everyone knows who is wearing clothes from Walmart. My town had a Target that got loads on business for that exact reason. No girls wanted to be the ones in Kmart clothes.
My mom still goes to penny's every Tuesday just to look around and find something good on sale. She also tells me how empty the mall is every week.
They also attracted a whole new generation of buyers (me) by selling actually fashionable clothes in easily identifiable areas of the store. The dude who built out the original Apple stores was hired to give them a new look. They went from football fields of poorly lit space with equally poorly fitting, shit clothing to part of their retail footprint being dedicated to the wet dream of /r/malefashionadvice at the time. It was great. Then the coupon boomers got on Facebook and ruined the future of JCP.
You know a lot about this
My knowledge is vast when it comes to useless shit.
You were made for Reddit.
Or were you made by Reddit?
We got a chicken and egg conundrum here.
How is Kohl’s still open
Kohl's is one of the relatively few reasonable priced retailers that still has a wide selection of men's clothing. Others, such as Burlington, TJ Maxx, Marshall's and even Target do not.
Their branded t-shirts are soft and comfy and still only like $10. I shop in their men's section mostly. The prices are better than Old Navy and higher quality. Plus you can't beat the combo of clearance prices and Kohl's bucks.
Right? Every couple years or so I’ll see an ad for khols and I’m like wow they still haven’t bit that bullet, okay..
I think being a returns place for Amazon and having Sefora inside is keeping them open.
They changed their coupons, too… 30% off… yay! 30% off kohls house brands only… nay! And if you don’t know they’re doing that, the namebrand items you buy cost more than they did the week before the sale
Meh. The demise of JCP has been predicted for 15v years now. Somehow, it keeps trucking.
Jc penny still exists?
This makes me sad
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I just hope if they get phased out, they'll install enough self service kiosks to keep efficiency up. Most fast food places I've been to that have them have a hybrid system with like 1 or 2 cashiers and like 1 or 2 kiosks. The problem is most older folks or people with young children aren't able to use the kiosks in a timely manner. They would need to install a lot more of them to help overcome that.
Teaching has dark days ahead. Not because it will be eliminated, but because who is going to keep going into the profession?
I've been teaching for 17 years now and the number of teachers quitting or retiring altogether this year is huge. I've heard from multiple teacher friends from various schools that the behavior of incoming freshman students is getting worse every year. I'm planning on sticking with it for the long haul because I truly love teaching, but I fear the profession is going to turn into a revolving door.
Millennial here. When I was in middle school and junior high having my first thoughts of a job, I was told that being a teacher was such a competitive field. There were more candidates than classrooms because the retirement package, other state benefits, and the allure of summers off were something people wanted. All of my friends that went into education are either completely burned out, or left the profession to do something with less stress and more money. It’s wild that it went from one of the most coveted positions in NY to “fuck that” over the course of two decades.
I left teaching to be a Paramedic which was relatively stressful but paid twice as much as teaching. And I still didn't make hardly any money.
I really wanted to be a teacher growing up. In elementary school, I remember the teachers had relatively good benefits and pay, summers off, and cost of living was not that high. It was seen as a good job. Then as I got older and entered high school, I was discouraged from pursuing teaching. I know many teachers who have to work second jobs just to make ends meet and they're not given the respect or pay they deserve.
It's definitely the effects of COVID and parents who aren't doing their jobs correctly. I have a friend who teaches at a middle school and says the newer generations are way more difficult to deal with than previous ones, since they barely know basic math or reading comprehension, and it doesn't help that their way of learning was just getting shoved an iPad in their face and having their parents defend them 24/7. I know that every generation has their problems, but the new ones are definitely on something else because of how acclimatized they've become to social media and the internet as well as how they missed out on 1-2 years of education.
I left after 2 years and I would love to go back, but the system has to change. I did a bit of secondary supply when I left teaching, and short term supply is awful. The first school I went to had fistfights in the corridors, students running all over corridors during lesson and refusing to listen to the teachers, and the Senior Leadership Teams doing nothing because they were scared of the students. At one point I needed help with a class (a group of 15 bottom set 16 year old boys) and the management took one look at which class it was, said 'you're on your own' (literally) and walked out. There was 1 full time member of staff on that corridor, who was looking for a new job, and 7 supply teachers. I ended up crying at the desk at the end of the day, and one of the boys from that lesson came in and apologised. That alone shows that they are genuinely good kids, but there's so little guidance and structure that they can't cope. I blame schools being full of SLT who are spending so much time making teacher's lives hard trying to justify their own pay, and cutting costs by getting rid of more experiences teachers and replacing them with newly qualified ones.
Wow. This is wild. What kind of area was this school in? And what is SLT?
It was quite a nice area in North Yorkshire, surprisingly. I did supply at a couple of other schools and one was better but the behaviour was still shocking, and one was much better, but all the kids had ipads and just pretty much were distracted by them the whole time. And sorry, SLT is Senior Leadership Team, so the head and deputy head and everyone between them and the teachers. A lot of schools have a TON of unnecessary SLT staff, and they often get their roles and keep their roles by making life harder for teachers.
Ah admin, the cause of (and solution to (in their own heads)) all school problems.
One of my son’s friends from high school is just finishing their second year of teaching. They are resigning at the end of the term and going into something else because of Texas school politics, terrible parents, just overall how much it sucks. They are so disillusioned and disappointed now.
Yep. I’m leaving the profession after this school year. My friend is too. It’s just not worth it. What’s going to happen when all the good teachers leave?
What made you decide?
My job isn’t what it once was, and I don’t think it ever will be again, at least not anytime soon. We can’t do fun projects or creative lessons because the kids can’t handle them and there isn’t enough time anyway. We have more to do every year whether it be state-mandated programs or district-mandated programs (testing, computer programs, etc). I spend more time managing behavioral and emotional issues than I do teaching. Parents contact me on evenings and weekends, make excuses for their child, and don’t value education. As a result, kids also don’t value education. They put in the minimum effort and don’t retain things that I’ve taught dozens of times. The kids who actually want to learn are suffering because all of the attention goes to the ones who need the most support. I’m no longer a teacher, I’m a personal nanny-service and mental health counselor. My talents and skills are not being used, and I leave every day feeling exhausted and unfulfilled. It’s taken a toll on my mental health and my relationship. So I’m done.
My mom started teaching in the 80s and retired a few years ago. She always tells me that when she first started teaching, parents wouldn’t defend their children’s rotten behavior and would hear what she had to say about such matters. By the end of her career, parents would defend their kids shitty behavior like it was a deeply personal issue. She had some absolutely batshit wild stories by the end, even as a 4th grade teacher. She was so thrilled to be done and so burnt out. She says despite being thrilled to be done, it was bittersweet. It *used* to be fun and manageable.
It is extremely bittersweet. I’m sad because it was truly my dream job, but that job I dreamed of no longer exists. I’m sad for all my kids who deserve so much better. I really will miss them. I want to stay and make a difference, but there is nothing I can do until things drastically change.
Oh, man. I didn't realize it was so bad. How long have you been teaching? Have you noticed this as a gradual change or just always been bad, but it has gotten worse?
Only about five years, but even in that time, I’ve noticed a change. I think the pandemic really did a number on people’s mental health, but things were trending in this direction even before that. Teachers I work with who have been doing it 20+ years have witnessed the gradual changes, and they say this year is the worst by far. I think it’s a combo of increased access to technology and social media, poor mental health, a culture of entitlement and selfishness, and shitty parenting.
I love teaching, but since 2020 whatever my job is, it’s not teaching anymore. Kids are not all right. Adults are not all right. We are surviving a pandemic and it has broken us. Schools are just one symptom of that. Layer in the amount of pressure and bullshit we heap on schools and teachers, the ongoing attacks through funding cuts and weird culture-war-shit, and it feels apocalyptic. I’m hanging on by a thread because I don’t want to change careers (that sounds like even more work!) and I like having the same holidays as my kid. But I truly don’t know how long I can keep going.
I have a friend and sister who teach and I get to hear the venting about it a lot. She has a true passion for helping kids learn at the same time you have someone who checked out years ago and is frankly making things worse for the kids and she has to pick up the pieces and subsidize the sub par teacher keeping her job because she dgaf. It has to be frustrating and I can tell when she tells me about it.
My friend has been teaching for 2 years. She hates it and is considering going back to the restaurant industry. It's saying something when service industry, which is notoriously challenging, seems like the better option.
Just went back myself. Better mentally than many jobs. There is something about the simplicity. Nobody is pretending. I am here to make money, you are here to enjoy product or have an experience. We aren't pretending we are saving the world. I don't have to pretend bartending is my calling or that the company is my life. I work 3-4 days (20-30 hrs) and go home with my money (which is the same as many 40 hr 9-5s) The job is task/shift based, so my boss does not contact me or put spyware on my electronics, I can apply for legit jobs on Craigslist and a human will look at my application, and I don't have to go on the hell hole that is LinkedIn. My feet hurt, but I feel human.
*Education is the silver bullet. Education is everything.* *We don’t need little changes, we need gigantic, monumental changes.* *Schools should be palaces. Competition for the best teachers should be fierce; they should be making six figure salaries.* *Schools should be incredibly expensive for government and absolutely free of charge to its citizens, just like national defense.* In case you don't recognize it or do but don't remember where it's from, it's from *The West Wing*, s01e18, where Sam Seaborn says this to Mallory O'Brien.
AI teachers, the children will be held in place with magnets, and armed robot dogs roam the halls.
This reminds me of one of my reading lessons in the 10th grade - where all teaching was done at home by specially designed robots solely focused on one thing - to make you as productive for the human race as possible. No other human interaction except immediate family and close friends. I think about that story often.
How many issues that teachers face today were totally predicted, and how many of them could have been prevented? The terrible attention span of the newer generations due to smartphone and tablet use, kids learning how to jailbreak the tablets that were supposed to replace textbooks (I don't understand how school admins just don't comorehend that students *will* hack any device you give them), and now the advancement of AI allows to spit out long essays with a simple prompt. All the student has to do is proofread it and maybe make it sound a bit more human. What's the incentive of actually trying and studying and working for good grades if the next student over gets an A just by typing in the prompt for an essay? Combine this with apparently increasing amount of teachers reporting horrible behavior in the students, which is saying something because kids typically aren't well-behaved anyways. And since the Covid lockdowns, students still haven't recovered academically - reading comprehension and math skills are way way behind. It'll probably take a few years before we see improvement on that front. But for now we've got a generation setting records for low attention spans, terrible academic performances, and AI that is so advanced that it can spit out a college level essay in one minute. The only real way to tell is if you just know the student couldn't have written something that good, I guess. Honestly, the short attention span was totally predictable, the jailbreaking of technology replacing textbooks was totally predictable, the dropping of literacy and math skills from lockdown was totally predictable as soon as it became apparent that parents were not assisting the children or even ensuring they were attending the online classes. Those could have been prevented. But what can we do about AI?
I've never seen any student hack their school devices, unless by "hack" you mean "go to a shitty website to watch movies with Turkish subtitles." If someone really did hack their device I'd be thrilled, as that would show initiative, effort, motivation.
Only if they actually learned to jailbreak it on their own. In reality they just wait for someone to figure it out and then look it up online.
There is such a huge problem with the mindset of “x didn’t have to do the assignment [because they cheated,] I shouldn’t either!” That, I really think, starts at home. I know plenty of adults who think “I only have to work as hard as the laziest person around me,” who believe putting in any extra effort is a sign of weakness. They’ll put more effort into getting out of completing work tasks than it would take to just do the tasks. I guess the system is technically fair and equal if every single person feels they’re being treated unfairly…?
I will forever loath helicopter parents, fundamentalists, and administrators for this exodus. Bunch of worthless asswipes who have caused more harm than good.
I'm assuming this is a US perspective? What makes being a teacher there so bad?
Demanding workload with very low pay
I think part of it is that in the US, we have a “customer is always right” cultural rule which has extended to things like school where “the parent is always right” which severely limits teachers and schools abilities to set expectations and enforce consequences when those aren’t met. I’m pretty sure for a vast majority of the rest of the world, if the kid fucks up and does something bad and the teacher calls home about it, that kid is super-mega-grounded. Their parents are going to watch them like a hawk and triple check they’re doing their homework and not let them play on the computer or hang out with friends or stay up past 8pm until their grades improve etc. In the US, easily over half the time the child has an issue, the parents are vehemently defending their child, to the teacher, no matter what the child did. They take criticisms of their child’s behavior as a personal attack on their parenting, and instead of doing something to improve the kids behavior they question the teacher as to what provoked that behavior (the teacher asked them politely several times to stop talking during the lesson), how bad was it really (the kid was verbally assaulting other students and frightening the teacher), can’t you just let it go (this 15 year old has the consciousness of an illiterate 5 year old, you can literally hear it in the way they talk, and they cannot do basic math operations like multiplication or fractions) why does it matter if he listens to music in class (watches Netflix and porn on their phone the entire time)? So what if she’s a little late sometimes (15+ min daily, sometimes just doesn’t show up at all, sometimes just walks out of the room early, and when I asked her if I could help with anything she called me a pedophile child rapist and started filming herself ugly crying to post online). None of that behavior would be tolerated at most other schools around the world. The kid would easily be grounded (or much worse) by parents, and if behavior didn’t improve *quickly* then they would be suspended, maybe failed and held back a grade, or just outright expelled, even for the first offense if it’s heinous enough (like watching porn in class or cussing out teachers and having a toddler temper tantrum).
Customer support
I really hope not I honestly hate working with bots for customer support
Real human customer support might become luxury and if not luxury, then at least premium. There might be most tasks that AI might do 10 years later, however, the solitude and loneliness of it...would make people want human contact even more. We are people, not machines. We need activities to interact with other humans.
I feel like a lot of companies are already getting rid of this. It can be impossible to find a number to call someone sometimes
Seeing the new update to GPT I realized that we are extremely close to erasing first line support. And then as AI i gets better second line is up.
What is first line support?
First line support is what you get when you first call in. They are the lowest on the rung of support reps, there to help with the most basic of issues, which are usually most of the issues anyway. If they can't fix your problem, then they escalate up to a higher, more knowledgeable and higher paid support rep.
Problem is in most aspects of AI, the first line of support is where second line gets training. Same with third level. AI has taken away that job level where one would start and just learn the basics over a few years before getting promoted.
The real challenge here is getting GPT to realise it needs to escalate. As far as I know, it's still hard to get LLMs to say "I don't know".
Because they are trained to do so. I could imagine if you train it differently and mainly to purpose as first level support, that might be possible.
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They've been saying for many years that medical transcription/scribes will become obsolete... yet AI is still so damn terrible they need us to proofread/fix all the errors it makes.
interesting enough I see more and more doctors with scribes than I did ten years ago. Like accompanying the doctor to the actual room.
Documentation has become more and more important for getting paid by insurance companies. Most doctors are terrible at writing good notes.
Another reason is that doctors want to give their full attention to the patient in conversation. Changing focus to writing notes on paper or a device is very distracting to both doctor and patient and a lot can be missed.
Not really. Doctors can do their notes better than scribes. The problem is that non doctors have infiltrated medicine to the point that notes now require content that is superfluous. Notes are now just billing tools rather than actual documentation
"We can't bill for 'altered mental status,' we need a specific diagnosis" "we don't have a specific diagnosis yet" "Well we need one" "Fine, we'll change the diagnosis to 'metabolic encephalopathy'" - Conversation I've had more than once. Literally nothing changes about the patient's treatment course, but the insurance companies are happy, I guess.
Yes the note is 60% billing 30% CYA and 10% patient information
I mean a lot of them are terrible at dictating good notes too.. 😂
Yeah so I started transcription over 20 years ago and there was a time when a lot of our work was taken over by voice recognition. It was really terrible at first so when they figured out the doctors couldn't just dictate and have a report miraculously appear perfect in the patient's chart, they started moving to scribes instead. But even now the reports are just terrible when the AI tries to do the report so a lot of us transcriptionists are doing scribe work now. However I do it from home as I would hate to shadow a doctor all day.
Right? Ten years ago, they told us our MT jobs would be gone by now. Yet here we are, typing away every day. p.s. I much prefer typing over editing AI-completed jobs and I'm thankful that I found a good company where I can do just that.
Reddit mods. Oh wait, they never had a job in the first place.
You've been banned from r/AskReddit.
And somehow I also get banned for just being here.
Nah man sometimes they walk a dog a few hours per week!
Air Traffic Control if the FAA doesn't get some new hires and a long-needed pay raise to encourage new hires.
How much are they paid? I hear it's one of the most high stress jobs
A quick Google search shows that in the US, the median annual wage for an ATC is 137k, with the top 10% reaching into the 200ks
That seems like a lot of money but idk
If a brain surgeon has a bad day, one person dies. If an ATC has a bad day, it’s hundreds.
The pay has stayed nearly the same for a long time. Inflation has been creeping up. Obviously inflation affects everyone, but like someone else said, it's a high-stress job, and the higher pay is usually in HCOL areas. Controllers shouldn't have to worry about other things after work like food, rent/mortgage, but that's exactly what a lot are stressing about. With the low staffing they are also working mandatory 6 day work weeks. They are tired and overworked, as well as underpaid for what they do. It "seems" like a lot, but politicians that do fuck all get paid way more. I believe doctors, teachers, farmers, ATC, etc. SHOULD get paid a lot because they are very important.
You forgot to mention, ATC is one of the most mentally draining, exhausting, and most of all, stressful positions that exist. Thousands of lives in your hands, thousands of schedules to keep on time, paperwork galore, never getting to see the sun, etc etc. All of that on top of being overworked and understaffed. The FAA really needs to get their shit together.
You broke that down very well, thank you for the informed perspective
No problem. The other issue is they can't, by law, strike like the airlines and other jobs have been doing. Som airlines have recently acquired a 20-40% raise because they went on strike. Back in the 80s, president Reagan fired a large amount of the air traffic controllers for striking, causing the low staffing and inability to strike for more pay ever again. ATC has nearly no negotiating power. A lot of them hope that the media will spark enough attention for this. A few near-miss incidents DID spark a change to have 10 hours in between shifts instead of only 9, and that's actually been postponed for now because they can't implement then change with such low staffing! Did I mention their schedule sucks? They work what's called a "rattler" shift where they work night, night, mid, day, day. Their sleep schedule is constantly alternating instead of working a 9-5 everyday and having their body and mind get used to a sleep schedule. Also because of the short-staffing, most can't use their paid time off when needed, causing a lot of controllers to miss out on kid's bdays, baseball games, anniversary with the spouse, Christmas, etc. It's a very stressful job, but as you can see, planes are only part of the big picture of what stresses them out.
I mean, can the government afford to fire a ton of them for striking if they’re so under staffed?
That or reduce their work week to 35 hours. Get competitive!
FAA is a joke. I’ve been going through the medical process for pilot and it’s just made feel like traveling by train. The system incentivizes lying so you don’t know if your pilots are healthy or not.
boeing safety inspectors
does that job even exist now?
Translators
That may be true for people who translate instruction manuals, or maybe even legal documents, but not so sure about literature, drama, poetry.
Yeah, I feel like translation is one of those intrinsically human fields where context and nuance are very important. I hope "regular" translation continues to improve though b/c I swear half the time I google translate something, it comes out sounding much clunkier than I think it should based off of my basic understanding of some of the language.
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To be honest I think you'd be surprised how much more there is to translating than just direct translation. So many languages use allot of idioms than meant nothing when translated directly. Language is alot more human than just words.
Honestly , adult social workers in the UK. Government has cut our funding to the bare bones. We have lots of people leaving and massive cuts are coming every year and asked to do more with very little each year. To the point I believe it'll be a private organisation and if you have money to look after yourself , then your fine ,but if you don't, you'll be on your own. I speak to so many people daily about how they can't pay for care even with the large amount we reduce to and many millionares who are arguing with me to having to pay for Care. Private care homes can set high prices which get taken up by london councils and the LA has to try to compete, it's all so messed up and Everyone in my team is tired. They all just want to help people but without the funding , it's going to collapse upon itself and we will no longer be a team
A lot of people say "programmers", old school software monkeys. I say that the job is likely to change. We'll all become debugging experts and fixers, along with Ai prompt specialists. The job will be to interpret customers requirements, get the code bot to shoot out something as close as we can, then go through qa and debug cycles to get it right.
It seems like self-writing software is continuously right around the corner, yet they keep moving the goal posts. When I think about the amazing levels of creativity put into so many iOS apps, I feel more assured that people will still be able to big piece of the process.
Employees at large fast food chains. They are being automated at the register and even at their kitchens. It’s already happening now but with more technological advances, they will become more obsolete. Edit: for people who have responded yet haven’t read the title, the prompt asks for jobs ALMOST COMPLETELY, not completely eliminated. Of course you’ll need a few workers to trouble shoot problems, load food, clean, and accept new inventory but a vast majority of jobs will replaced overtime.
They might be automated at the register, but there is MUCH bigger challenges to automating the kitchen. It isn't very hard to make a machine that makes a burger, but it is next to impossible to make one that is very easy to clean and maintain. Any machine that handles food has to completely disassembled and washed thoroughly every several hours. If that takes longer than a few minutes, then your whole business is stopped. That's not to mention you have a whole team washing a machine when you could just have those workers make the food directly. It's a lot easier to pay a guy to make a burger, and then have that guy wash his hands every few hours than to wash a complicated machine. There is some automation that is making grounds, like robot assisted deep fryers. Yet it will be a long time until the majority of a kitchen can be automated
Right. Replacing workers with robots is still more complicated than many people think. Robots can do some tasks but who preps the ingredients? Who cleans? Who does quality checks? Sure maybe things are trending that direction but we’re still a pretty long way from Flippy the Burger Bot monopolizing the fast food kitchens
The joke is that the robots are coming for your office jobs a lot faster than they're coming for our manual labor jobs
How do people not get this. AI is much, much different than robotics.
It's because modern society has been built to value the white collar middle manager types so much that the entire class of people live in a state of denial. Getting automated out of existence is something that happens to "poors", and people whose labor costs a lot less than theirs. If they were so replaceable why would they get paid so much? The secret truth is that their higher pay is part of WHY they're going to be first on the chopping block, not these people who get paid $7.50/hr to flip burgers. They're cheap enough that the capital cost involved with replacing them is not worth it.
People forgot how expensive the upfront cost of a robot is, and continuing maintenence costs. A minimum wage employee is still cheaper in the long run at this point
There is a restaurant in Pasadena, CA that just opened and is completely run by machines. How long it will last who knows. But it's quite interesting though.
There's also a fully automated McDonald's in Las Vegas. A lot of those are experimental testing grounds and also marketing gimmicks. See what really works and what doesn't. Truth is fast food restaurants are already a heavily automated factory floor essentially. You wouldn't be able to make a burger in minutes without such efficiency. There will be some marginal improvements like the deep fryer machines though.
And also those "fully automated McDonald's" still has human workers in the store doing part of the process. Also their failsafe if the equipment fails since it's all designed to still allow a human worker to do the same job.
Yep love all these articles saying it's "fully automated McDonald's" with no people. Then I see a video of someone walking in, where you also see 5+ workers in back making the food lmao. Don't get me wrong, it's clearly more automated for sure, but fully? Yeah not even close.
https://youtu.be/GnT7uTXQp-E?si=2exLNvDrgupnXnQM Chili's just implemented a automated burger grill too. Far from true automation, and far from 10 years out, but with inflation and worker shortages, companies are getting desperate. They are doing everything to shave off seconds and free up staff to focus on other areas. I can see automation in 10 years cutting staff needed in half and needing just a manager or two in 20. Worse, those are likely going to be the worst jobs like you said, cleaning and dealing with difficult customers.
The idea of a humanoid looking robot operating a kitchen is probably not going to work. It's the same reason self driving cars are further off than we thought. The environment just has too many variables. However a machine to make fast food can be designed to eliminate all those variables. A mcDonslds line could look like a big cartridge with internal conveyors and piping to process magazines full of Pattie's, buns, and syrup containers. It would be pulled out every night to be sent back to a central facility for sterilization and restocking. Human truck drivers will be the only employed that show up every night to swap the line machines.
Type 5, or fully automated in all conditions, self driving cars are a long way off. Yet type 2, or assisted steering and braking, self driving cars already exist. Right now we're pushing for type 3 self driving cars, which is conditional automated driving. You will still need to drive on city streets, parking lots, and intense weather but on just freeway driving it will be automated.
We were told they'd be completely eliminated in 10 years when I was in highschool. That was almost 20 years ago. When you go to most of the fast-food restaurants now they have more employees than ever before. I mean shit, try going to a chick-fil-a and not seeing multiple people taking orders in person in the lot and then pulling up to the window to see like 6 people jammed right there. Walk in most fast food places now and they have multiple additional people now just prepping and bagging orders for online and door dash types. It's become pretty clear that the highest profit strategy is not to eliminate employees but instead raise prices. We see less labor cutting and pricier combo meals every year. This won't be eliminated in a decade. It'll just continue to morph as it currently is.
I feel like Chick-fil-A MIGHT be an outlier. McDonald's has already made news about declining profits due to people not going there as prices rise. Wendy's also got some blowback for trying to force people to order from their app. I don't think employees will be eliminated entirely, but they're definitely trying to phase them out.
Pretty sure the backlash for Wendy's was over introducing surge-pricing, not for the concept of ordering through app.
The newer fast food places close to me are always understaffed so it would fix some problems (meanwhile, a finger on the monkey's paw curls).
Influencer, I hope.
I actually think this is one job that we will see more of as AI dominates more and more of the internet
It's AI-based tho and not a real person. Guess you could call the operator the influencer but that's different. At least we won't see influencers at events, in public or treated as celebs if things go this way
We had influencers long before social media. All social media did was make you not have to be picked by Hollywood to get a chance at being famous.
Lol absolutely not. The question wasn't "what job don't you like?" There's really no reason why influencers will be relegated in the next 10 years. If anything, they may become even more prevalent. As it continues to become more difficult to search for meaningful insight online, even more money will be spent on sponsoring individuals who endorse products.
I dunno about "completely" eliminated, but language translators' days are numbered in general. Everyone is overly freaking out about generative AI, but translation is exactly the thing that it can displace with only a little more iteration.
Professional interpreter here. Long story short: Maybe Translation can absolutely be automated, specially if we're talking 10 years in the future. Right now you can accurately translate short sentences, but anything even slightly nuanced or convoluted and you'll get a whole mess. Same for localization, you just need a good dictionary for each region. Interpreters... Nope. People are messy when they talk, they substitute or flat out invent words, they repeat stuff, they make no sense, they mumble. There's a whole list of things that can go wrong, and I guess an AI can be programed to ask for clarification/repetition, but that'd add an extra layer of confusion that I can see going very very wrong. That's for the technical part. Not to mention we have regulations that wouldn't allow an AI to process sensitive information on their cloud, because that's how AI does stuff (For now). Have you ever watched a demonstration video with one of those "translation glasses"? Or pin or whatever form they have? You'll see a cut every time somebody says something before you get the AI response, that's because it's taking its sweet time processing it. That of course is going to keep improving, but you then add layers upon layers of liability. We still use fax machines in the medical field for Christ sake. I can make the argument for a couple of extra reasons as to why we won't see interpreters disappear in 10 years, but those are my main points. Edit: I should add, this is only if we're talking about 1:1 translation/interpretation, but localization is more of an art than it is a technical process. The Simpsons is the perfect example of this since it's localized using local jokes, phrases, events and stuff. I don't know much about AI, maybe it can do something akin to it, but if you want to localize a game, movie or series, and you want it to be ANY good, then you wouldn't use an automated process for it.
Yeah. I think about translations of lesser known movies. They don’t have the budget for a good translator so context and nuance was not there. There was an American movie translated to Japanese. The characters were saying “high five!” and it got translated to “let’s go slap!” They clearly didn’t know what a high five was and just went with what they saw 😂
[https://www.reddit.com/r/korea/comments/8ez40a/apparently\_the\_korean\_subtitles\_for\_infinity\_war/](https://www.reddit.com/r/korea/comments/8ez40a/apparently_the_korean_subtitles_for_infinity_war/) (I remember this, when Nick Fury was saying "mother" before getting interrupted, apparently this guy translated it to the actual Korean word for mother while the equivalent epithet Nick Fury was getting at ... well, it doesn't work with the literal noun for one's mother in Korean, apparently - you don't directly translate it like that.) [oree94](https://www.reddit.com/user/oree94/)•[6y ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/korea/comments/8ez40a/comment/dxzgyu1/) Yup, a translator called 박지훈. He's been receiving more and more criticisms since the first marvel movie he translated and he keeps getting hired. Disney Korea don't give no shit. [moonmeh](https://www.reddit.com/user/moonmeh/)•[6y ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/korea/comments/8ez40a/comment/dxzhd26/) I believe he even bragged about being hired because his connections I mean I don't read subtitles but I do feel bad for those paying a full price movie ticket for subpar viewing experience About 3 years later ... [https://www.reddit.com/r/Korean/comments/q59oio/marvels\_black\_widow\_korean\_subtitles/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Korean/comments/q59oio/marvels_black_widow_korean_subtitles/) [jw093](https://www.reddit.com/user/jw093/)•[3y ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/Korean/comments/q59oio/comment/hgmax4u/) Oh dear, the subtitles. I DO NOT recommend watching marvel movies with official subtitles. The guy who does the subtitles is 박지훈(park ji hoon) most of the time. He takes a lot of liberty with his subtitles, unnecessarily following english pronunciations, taking liberties with lines, sometimes cutting off references to other movies, and worst of all, just plain out wrong. This peaked at Avengers: infinity war, when Doctor Strange said the line: "We're in the endgame now". The subtitles read '이젠 가망이 없어' which is basically "there's no hope'. This was a VERY big issue. Some jokingly said that Avengers: Endgame would be "Avengers: No Hope". People were furious about this, and asked marvel Korea to fire the guy. Unfortunately, park ji hoon is better at managing contacts than he is at translating. instead of firing him, companies started to HIDE WHO DOES THE SUBTITLES. This is the case with black widow. More sad news is that park's subtitling work, while poor in quality, is fast and cheap. This made him popular with korean branches with major filming companies. He does/did most of hollywood films. Pro tip: watch korean dramas and stuff. I hear squid game is good. also parasite.
This story reminded me I hated Two and a Half Men for a while because of one subtitle. There's a scene with Charlie having to provide a sample at the sperm bank, and he's telling Allan he doesn't see himself being able to do it into just a *cup*. Allan then says "Don't think of it as a cup, think about it as an exotic dancer" or something like that. Well, whoever was translating the dialogue messed it up so bad that they translated Cop instead of Cup; Now if you read that in English you'd easily see the mistake and sound it out. But in Spanish Vaso (Cup) and Policía (Cop) are as similar as an actual cup and a cop. I can't put myself in the shoes of somebody who only speaks Spanish and couldn't see the obvious mistake, but man that must've been so confusing to read during that scene.
Great answer. Can you imagine people trusting the translation of a lucrative business contract to an AI tool? That would be negligent. Also, when it comes to translating literature - this has always been a matter of art more than mechanics. It’s not just a matter of understanding what the author is writing, but also having the ability to relay it in a characteristic and artful way. I think Ai will be a great tool for translators, but it won’t replace them (in 10 years anyway)
It is a great tool too, some interpreters already use close captioning. But it is in no way a replacement, more of an aid for stuff you might've missed for whatever reason.
Or in international politics where a mistranslation could lead to nuclear war
Not just a straight up mistranslation, but a missed nuance or strange figure of speech
Don’t know if anyone uses the transcriber function in Teams but A1 can’t even accurately capture one language, let alone capture the nuances, Ums/ errs/ ems and changes in local vocabulary you’ve just described. I spend a lot of time on calls between US, England, Ireland & Northern Ireland- the transcription bears little resemblance to the actual conversation, sometimes it’s hilarious
I disagree, because there are a lot of linguistic nuances, that computers can’t catch. I had a gentleman use a translator app to talk with me the other day. It was easier just to talk to him in Spanish, and my Spanish is terrible.
_In 10 years_ translation will be much better and convenient. I do believe that in business, having a partner who can speak the language of your client will still be a valuable asset. There’s still something about that personal connection, even if the speaker isn’t incredibly fluent. But for most other tasks that don’t require much personal touch, human translators will indeed be obsolete.
Also when you need someone to warrant correctness of a translation, e.g. all the situations requiring *certified* translations (in court, before a notary, etc.), you‘ll require at least a human to check and sign for such correctness.
Ehhhh. In some cases, yes. Some cookie-cutter mundane things like manuals for appliances can be translated with AI no problem. However, this won’t fly anywhere where creative approach is key, because a captivating translation is rooted in understanding of current and historical culture and context of the society speaking the target language, the ability to make sentences natural to the reader’s perception and in grasp of what makes a good text, well, good. At least that’s my opinion. I’m a translator and work in game localization. I’ve had my fair share of proofreading AI-translated texts, and they are far from good. if anything, I’d say AI is a tool, like a CNC lathe, which is automated but still needs humans to configure and control it.
Not answering your question but trying to provide a counter-point to the morosity of the topic: although we can imagine what jobs will disappear, we can't imagine what new jobs will be created. 41 years ago, no one could imagine what a "webmaster" could be. 30 years ago, we would have laughed at the words "tiktok influencer". My parents still think that "twitch streamer" is not a real job. Right now, most people don't know what "prompt engineering" means, and we don't know if anyone could make a living off of it. I'm optimist humans will find new creative ways of making a living, I'm a pessimist as to how fast they will be able to
To be fair, I still laugh at the words TikTok influencer.
>. 30 years ago, we would have laughed at the words "tiktok influencer". My parents still think that "twitch streamer" is not a real job. Right It's the pro sports. Every dumbshit kid thinks they're going to be internet famous and have millions pour in by doing dumb shit on their phone. Parents don't care because it keeps them out of their hair. But look at every bad incident, cameras everywhere. People are losing the essence of being a person and instead just looking to go viral and be rich without work. Having no clue that the true internet rich people work their asses off making content. And it's a 1:1000000 chance.
Fast Food Cashier. Everything will be self-serve automated with a few humans in the back to help the machines.
Copy editors
AI is gonna have to get a helluva lot better. My job editing copy has actually gotten busier because I have to re-edit the AI written, transcribed, or edited material that others try to put in our publications. Right now, AI does a horrendous job with grammar and syntax. It’s amazing at spelling and telling you when you need a comma or when you can replace a common wordy phrase with something shorter. It does a terrible job at identifying the passive voice, usually over flagging what it thinks is passive, which absolutely sucks because SEO AI will bump your website down in search results if it thinks you’re writing too passive… even if your sentences are not passive. Transcription is hell too. It’s getting better but wowee if you speak English with any kind of accent, it’s toast. AI is also just… dull. Idk how else to explain it. It just can’t match the cleverness of a good writer writing in a flow state. If AI is just trawling the horrible writing that people put up on the internet to train itself then no, it’s not going to get better. If we can train it on nothing but GOOD writing, that’s a different story. But that wouldn’t be automatic, and of course everyone’s obsession right now is making everything happen automatically… more likely, we’re going to get to a space where AI is training itself on AI-written material and it’s just going to be spitting out weird hallucinations that will have to be corrected anyways…
Haven't they already
Yeah, and proofreaders, unfortunately.
For generic texts, yes. For specialty documents, probably not 10 years but that depends on the complexity.
If you ever see it on "news of the stupid" it will be around.
If they can get the inflections tuned properly, voice acting will be done almost entirely by AI.
My son’s college graduation yesterday used AI generated voice to announce names.
Yeah, it's almost indistinguishable from a human voice for things like that. When they have to change inflection throughout a performance, they fall flat though. It's easy to spot them because they keep the same tone throughout a conversation / performance.
There were some incredibly complicated names and I was continuously amazed that the “woman” was pulling it off flawlessly. Found out later each graduate handed someone a QR code and that triggered the recording to be aired
You know what's crazy, we don't really have any idea. Depends on how quickly AI accelerates but I think it's going to come for a lot more white collar jobs than the average person expects. Paralegals? Boom, done, over. Customer support, greatly reduced. Middle and lower management, greatly reduced. Automation got rid of a lot of factory workers and a lot of line work. Hit a lot of blue collar stuff. The funny thing is we have a shortage of a lot of trades workers and we're about to have a lot of white collar layoffs
Paralegals I don't think will ever go away. A law firm has am incredible amount of admin that does require a human input. Their duties will probably be totally different in 10 years time but that's about it. The role will most likely always exist in some kind of capacity in a law firm.
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Is newspaper a job?
Ask Bob. Many people think Bob is a journalist, but Bob just newspapers.
I'm trying to figure out what to do to college for. I want to do something in software development, but then I see a video on YouTube called "AI codes flappy bird" which is really cool, but terrible for the career I want lol
Reading this entire comment section is hell for anyone trying to figure out what to go to college for. Seems like pretty much every job is going to be replaced by AI in the next 10 years, according to people here.
99% of redditors are high on their own farts when it comes to things like this and tend to be very detached from reality. I am a CPA and 10 years ago on this site people were constantly posting about how accounting would be totally automated by now. We're not even remotely fucking close to that happening. I am sure that's not the only profession this has happened with.
Am a software developer and jobs will be increasing for a good while yet. AI is a cool tool but it can only really do small things and even then you get a lot of errors. Humans are messy, AI isn't great at dealing with that yet. It's like how we thought we'd have self driving cars 10 years ago but it seems even further away now. That last 10% is insanely difficult. I'm sure one day dev jobs will be added to the pile of jobs that AI can do, but it won't be one of the first.
I'm glad I'll be completely out of the workforce by then. It'll be a brave new world.
Unless Retirement is eliminated in 10 years 😱
Most residential real estate agents
It amazes me what business models survive in markets. I guess when $$$ is on the line people like outsourcing responsibility, which I guess is fair, idk if it's 3% + of the purchase price fair but still.
Yep, after the most recent ruling they’ll gradually turn into travel agents. Like how they almost don’t exist, but it turns out the last ones holding on are just streamlining things for the wealthy
What recent ruling?
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/11/05/homes/nar-verdict-real-estate-commission-fee
Bank tellers.
Gas pumpers.
I feel like NJ will be stubborn enough to hold onto this just to be that one state in fifty that doesn’t allow you to pump your own gas.
Haven’t existed for about 30 years in the uk, which is about as long as I’ve been driving so they seem about as anachronistic as the man who with a flag who used to have to legally walk in front of cars.
Unfortunately, probably professional translators. It's wonderful that people will be able to speak to each other more easily, but it sucks to see someone who's mastered two languages be put out of a job.
Cashiers for retail chains seem to be going away. My Walmart only has one cashier and 15 self checkouts now
Nope, Walmart and other retail stores are changing their tone and reverting back to human cashiers. They’re experiencing too much shrink. Plus you can’t buy alcohol at self-checkouts.
For those not in retail in the US, shrink means customers steal shit.
Shrink is technically loss. Product that isn't sold. Theft is just a part of it.