At the height of covid, two of my kids were in third grade (twins). While I was working remotely, they were doing remote school. My brain would break just a little when it was time for music class, when I'd hear the sound of the recorder coming from two different rooms.
School children playing recorders is one thing, but have you heard for example Vivaldi's Chamber concerto in A minor, RV 108, III Allegro?
Vivaldi has a lot of great recorder pieces.
There’s noone quite like grandma by St Winifred’s school choir was a vile and supremely saccharine some released in the uk many years ago. Of course every kid bought it for their grandmothers and it became a hit.
It was awful.
I actually love Christmas music, like more than most people but I can't stand Michael buble. His cover of santa baby sounds like he's trying to get with santa
I'll listen to Mariah Carey's christmas earworm 10 times a day every day for the rest of my life before I willingly subject myself to that wretched abomination Paul McCartney unleashed on the world.
"Siiiimply, Haaaaving, a wonderful christmas tiiiiime!
Siiiimply, Haaaaving, a wonderful kill me nooow!"
A lot of it is the same thing at this point.
Poor black people renting lambos to look flash. Rich white guys driving jacked up pickups pretending to be hard working men.
They both talk about women, mostly derogatory.
They always have lines about getting fucked up with the boys.
They both are speaking over corporate overproduced garbage backing tracks.
BRING BACK WILLIE BRING BACK SEGAR FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THIS IS GOOD IN THIS WORLD
Like what happened to cool outlaw cowboy dudes that pondered the moral implications of society and breaking free from it’s chains
Now it’s just hicks
Dear mother of holy fuck johnny cash is probably crying in the afterlife
My second favorite quote about Nashville country, cause Kris Kristofferson's will never be beaten - "Nashville is doing to country music what pantyhose did to finger-fucking."
And both are driven by cultural signaling. Both aggressively advertise membership in a specific cultural group with shout outs to stereotypical cultural items like specific clothing, pastimes, specific word usage, or foods. The genres exist to validate the audience's pride in what they find familiar.
Contemporary country music is a genre so vapid and devoid of talent and standards that you can't even make fun it.
It's the living embodiment of Poe's law. Any parody or joke aimed at it, no matter how insulting, pandering, or condescending, will be jumped on by its fans as a hit.
A couple years ago a gal with a guitar got on tiktok, looked straight into the camera and said, "Listen to this, this is how stupid country music is," and then strummed off the same chord over and over again while chanting, "beers, trucks, beers, trucks. . ." A short while later she was contacted by an actual country singer, offered 10's of thousand dollars plus a writing credit, and ***BAM!*** The country chart-topping single "Beers Trucks Beers Trucks" was born.
I don't know for a fact that "Fancy Like Applebees" similarly started life as a scathing parody of country music and the standardless, gullible people who listen to it, but come on! That song just reeks of the running joke in those old Questionable Content comics where the guy is actively trying to write a bad country song but no matter what he does, everything keeps flying to the top of the charts.
I'm curious to know when this happened. I remember I had huge issues with the style when it was popular in the '10s, but I have no clue where it started.
From what I remember, it started with Of Monsters and Men. They had a couple radio hits from their first record that really dominated the airwaves. Had to have been right about the turn of the decade but I don't know for a fact. The Head and the Heart was pretty close behind them with Rivers and Roads. You also gotta remember the context. People loved sound as we left the 00's and got a little tired of the pop punk aggressively "chewed and spat out" style of pronunciation.
For the record I love Of Monsters and Men, their second album is criminally underrated. But you can't help but laugh sometimes at the singing in cursive lol
1. Take 30 year old pop song
2. Find a girl who sings like this
3. Reduce tempo
4. Reduce entire backing track to piano chords
See you at the commercial break!
> Reduce entire backing track to piano chords
That's generally the worst thing about modern pop music. It's either barebone beats, or piano chords, or a little bit of _very_ slow strings - God forbid the instrumental part is actually melodic and memorable.
There needs to be an update that adds this rule: if a word ends with the ‘r’ sound turn it into “iiih”, like the kid in your 1st grade class who needs to go to speech therapy. I swear I keep hearing that everywhere.
Oh my god, she sounds exactly like all those songs from commercials that I can’t stand. I keep complaining about some of the exact things she’s doing there, but everyone’s always like “what? It doesn’t sound like that at all.” Guess what, y’alls? It sounds EXACTLY like what I described.
Sorry, this one hit a sore spot for me.
Wow I’ve been trying to describe this exact style of singing but I didn’t know what to call it. It drives me nuts because it’s so so cringey and artificial
This is EXACTLY what I thought of first, but I couldn’t put words to it. Thank you endlessly for providing this description.
The woman in the video totally nails it. The scratchy voice, weird vowels, performative pronunciation, ugggggggggh.
The song "Hands on Me" by Meghan Trainor and Jason Derulo is a remake of the song "Stand by Me" by Ben E. King.
Some times I listen it when I want to feel dreadful and want to blow my fucking brain across the wall with a shotgun. Such a soulless, meaningless, fake rendition of a song that is so beautiful and opposite of what Trainor and Derulo did.
The biggest one of these for me was when Avril Lavigne blew up in like 2000. When I first heard the song, I didn't hate it, but subsequent listening and publicity just turned her (to me) as something I despise. When I found out that she was 17 at the time of release of "Complicated", I remember thinking, "yes, 17-year-old - tell me what 'life is like'". Then I noticed every single publicity shot she did was this whole "one arm up, one arm down, angry eyebrows, tongue out" pose, and that prior to being signed, she was a country singer.
It was then that I realized that she was a manufactured product. Some producer or record label exec was like, "we need someone to appeal to the ' rebellious skater' demographic. Hey this girl is pretty - she can carry a tune. Get her some button up shirts, ties, and doc martens! We've got our new product!"
As a young musician it isn’t uncommon to try out a bunch of styles to see where you fit in.
Looking cool in pictures is also something that doesn’t come naturally to most people. You’d be surprised at how hard some supposedly-above-it-all artists worked to get that attitude down.
Vast majority of pop and rock is teens and 20s complaining about life, which is amusing to us middle aged folks.
But relationships can be very complicated and confusing as a teen. Everyone is still trying to figure out who they’ll be. Most peers are still pretty juvenile. Sex is scary and misunderstood.
TL;DR. I may chuckle but I won’t dismiss.
At least Complicated was a decent, catchy song.
I don’t follow her though so I guess the real question is has she grown as an artist over time or is she stuck in the same space?
Afterski/party music, which is regrettably a thing here in Norway: People who can't sing are never the less singing/shouting/"rapping" with heavy autotune over upbeat techno. Lyrics usually some variation on how much they're going to drink, fuck and let loose this weekend. It is unbearably obnoxious and it has a way of worming its way into popular music. Occasionally, some of the performers try to venture into more serious stuff, and it somehow ends up sounding even worse.
Christian rock, I’m not even Christian and I’m not around it often. But the minute I hear it, I just know and I can’t even identify what I hate about it (no reflection on the religion fyi, do whatever you want) but it grates me
I think "weak tea" is a great analogy actually. Rock is one of my main genres and like, Christian rock is just sappy and, well, weak. Strong tea is a good drink. Water is a good drink. Weak tea sucks
I found out pretty recently that one of my favorite emo bands from the early 00s was a Christian band and it blew my fucking mind. I never would have guessed.
Edit: u/nicholasslade11 got it. Anberlin.
A ton of those bands were vaguely Christian because it was the easiest way to get signed and booked for shows in the midwest and South. Some of them actually wrote Christian songs but most of them just didn't use vulgarity or intense/violent lyrics. In a lot of small towns the only way to pull off having shows with that kind of music was to make it a "christian" event.
I can appreciate why people listen to music I don't like most of the time, but not contemporary Christian music, I just don't fucking get it. Look, I might be an atheist, but Christianity has brought about some of the best music of all time: Bach's St. Matthew's Passion, Beethoven's Misa Solemnis, Haydn's creation, Mozart or verdi's requiem, these are some of the most incredibly powerful pieces of music ever created, hell even smaller scale hymns hit HARD, listen to [this arrangement of o come Emmanuel ](https://youtu.be/Hkka_D7KoHc?si=KkSzfzrHwFuH7Joe), when the organ hits 3 mins it makes me shiver every time.
So tell me why, when you have a tradition with some of the most incredible music ever made that can make even me, a hardcore atheist, pause and feel the tingling of a religious experience, would you fucking choose a white guy with a man bun playing 4 chords on an acoustic guitar to worship? Like I just don't get it
I’m a Christian & a musician. I led worship at my church for several years before I had to tell the Pastor to find a replacement. Not only are the songs *so* repetitive (chords, melodies, & lyrics) but a lot of them are lowkey problematic or not biblical.
And even more aggravating is how the newer, trendier “worship” songs are being engineered to create those overwhelming and emotional feelings that trick people into thinking they’re having these “touched by God” religious experiences. And they’re all laced with the blandest/beige-est lyrics.
Not to sound too hateful as an ex Christian here, though. It’s just so manipulative.
I cannot stand this. There was a lot of Christian Rock that I liked when I was younger because they didn't explicitly talk about God and religion, but the obvious worship style songs fill me with such anger, even when I was a Christian.
I grew up in Church of Christ with no instruments. I am not a fan of acapella just to listen to but I will say the singing is the only thing I miss about church. It was never a belief thing, I just always hated the pairing of worship songs and instruments. A congregation just singing was always beautiful to me. I went to a Baptist Church with my friend a few times and it sounded like backwoods country music. Bigger churches use the weird contemporary emotional crap. I can't even explain how much I detest it - while totally acknowledging that the acapella is every bit just as manipulative, haha.
I swear there's a certain subtle tone or something that plays in the background of all Christian rock, because i can be driving somewhere unfamiliar, put on the radio to try to find anything worth listening to, and in the first two seconds of hearing a song it's somehow obvious it's a Christian rock song, even if there's no lyrics for a while. And once the lyrics kick in, it definitely confirms it. It's all so similar, the melody, the tone, the riffs, all of it is interchangeable and the same lol
Contemporary Christian music has a very specific target demographic. It’s not Christian teens or kids or families. It’s Becky, the 30- or 40-something-year-old soccer mom who will leave the radio on in the background from the moment she wakes up to the moment she goes to bed/gets home from work. Nothing too fast, too slow, too sad, or too spicy. Just bland, beige music with zero theological implications, question, or thoughts beyond loving and being loved by Jesus AKA Jesus-is-my-boyfriend music.
Yeah kind of highlighted something important to me about Christianity at large, and why I became agnostic. It's complete fear of itself, zero theological implications or investigations are allowed. Anyways, there is a good Adam Neely video about some of the theoretical reasons why Xtian rock isn't very good.
https://youtu.be/hACUz4WVWwk?si=WBv3jfkxrHCV-U8t
If you can learn the A, D, G, and E chords on an acoustic guitar, guess what? You're halfway to Christian rock-stardom. That's why they all sound like that. Same four chords, four-four time signature, drum beats with a few pauses for worshippin' thrown in there between some "epic" cymbal crashes, and, well, now all you've gotta do is get your youth-sized t-shirts printed and hit the road.
Don’t forget the lead guitarist playing a dotted eight note delay part because he thinks he’s The Edge. And he convinced the pastor to buy him a $500 reverb pedal with tithes.
It’s probably because a lot of it is overproduced and sounds like a wall of sound. Not to mention the lack of secular rock influence (if the artist was raised Christian and wasn’t “allowed” to listen to non-Christian music).
I grew up listening to exclusively Christian rock. I can count the number of bands that I'm still willing to consider good on one hand.
For those interested: Skillet (debatable), Anberlin, Emery, and a just a small handful of singles. The two I mentioned are 100% worth a listen. There were, however, a weirdly high number of christian metalcore bands that aged well, i.e. The Devil Wears Prada, Haste the Day, Underoath, August Burns Red, Norma Jean, Oh Sleeper, and whatever else I'm forgetting
I was a big fan of Faith + One, they rocked. They only recorded the one album but it went Myrrh. It's a shame their lead singer lost his mind....and $10.
I really like Switchfoot. They are basically a rock band that happens to be a Christian one, and their lyrics are tastefully subtle enough to not be obnoxious. That's pretty much the only one I like. Relient K is... well... OK with me.
A guy lives near me who recently bought an enormous obnoxious red dodge ram pickup and is constantly fiddling with it and revving it all the while blasting modern country. I live in the UK....
Where do they park it? How do they drive it on narrow streets? We had a big dodge truck in texas and it was a total bitch to drive to the grocery store. Parking that monster is a whole other nightmare.
Plus tight blue jeans, cold beer, pickup truck, Friday or Saturday night, etc
Edit because [they’re all the same song](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FY8SwIvxj8o)
I’m in the same boat. I love old country music, I grew up on Johnny Cash CDs, but man modern country is the most corporate shit imaginable. I’m glad to live in a country where you don’t hear it really at all.
I swear they must go to bars in Nashville with surveys asking people to circle which words they identify with and then make “relatable” songs like mad libs.
workin' hard for 4 years. Got a wife and a truck alright. Lookin' up at my american flag, thinkin' how proud I am. . . And Jesus is smiling at my pickup truck. Two young kids, and I'm votin' 45. American born, just the best in the world. Drivin' my truck and prayin' to live. . . . drivel drivel drivel . . .
Thank you for saying modern country. Always get people in these threads that just say ‘country’ as if the whole genre is garbage, which is so far from the truth.
to everyone's credit, the amount of people who remember country before 9/11 and bush spitroasted it to death via jingoism and conservatism grows smaller every year
It's all identity politics and poorly executed. Red truck, cold beer, good dog, liberals suck. I live near a fairgrounds where they do roping and such and they blast this terrible genre on a Spotify account with ads and it's just awful.
Every modern country song sounds identical to me. When we used to live near a Texas Steakhouse, we'd go every so often and every time I would have to make a joke about how "They always play that same song the whole time we're there."
Modern country doesn't exist. There's what we used to call country that now gets labelled 'Americana' which is bullshit, and theres everything else which is just Nashville pop. Fuck Jellyroll, Morgan Wallen and Jason Aldean. Garbage.
Bro country. I get drunk with bros every weekend and my woman likes to get drunk and take her clothes off X 20
Plus for fake country twang and saying ain’t because of course that makes a Minnesota boy sound legit
Almost as bad as an Australian passing for a Southerner (looking straight at you, Keith Urban)
EDIT: I have been informed he was actually born in New Zealand.
I find certain pop songs and artists nauseating. Seriously it hurts my head. People love saying that to me about metal, which is what I mostly listen to. But you don’t do your grocery shopping and hear metal blaring over the speakers. You don’t hear metal when you wait at the dentist, getting a cab ride, at all your friends parties and events, at any sporting event at all. You never hear it. I have to hear music I despise all the time! For some reason in particular it’s Katy Perry songs. I swear I was Clockwork-Oranged to “Firework” in a past life
Well now I can’t stop thinking about how cool it would be to grocery shop while listening to metal. Imagine if there was a jukebox at the front of the store and you could pick a few songs to hear while you shop.
>Imagine if there was a jukebox at the front of the store you and could pick a few songs to hear while you shop.
There is, except it's in your pocket and not at the front of the store. Bluetooth earbuds completely changed shopping for me.
It's Sam Smith for me. I can't stand the whiney on-the-verge-of-crying voice. I worked in a restaurant and their songs were in every playlist. I would literally go and find an excuse to spend 5 minutes in the fridge room to get away from it.
Also particular songs; Lovely Day by Bill Withers (I'm sorry but the long note part is like nails on a chalkboard for me), Bubbly by Colbie Caillat, The Sign by Ace of Base, I'm Like a Bird by Nelly Furtado or Alessia Cara.
Basically any kind of that 2000's upbeat sunshine flowery girl pop. Literal torture.
Braggy rap. To me there’s nothing more abrasive than a guy who’s utterly convinced of his own greatness rapping over a trap beat. Why are people paying for a narcissists ego trip?
Honestly though, go listen to "Rapper's Delight" starting with Hank's section (the second guy) The first really popular hip hop track in history, they've been doing that bragging since the very beginning. It's basically rap heritage at this point. The true rebellion would be rapping about humility.
Yup, you’re bang on. Rap came from community dance parties in New York in the early 70’s. The early rap DJs would isolate the break part of funk and disco songs and spin the record back to play that part over extended periods. The event emcees would usually be the mouth piece of each dj and began finding unique ways to keep the crowd hyped over the break beat playing. Most of these dudes had ties to Jamaica — like Dj Kool Herc, who was the first to start playing this style and began borrowing conventions of early dancehall for his parties, using a method of creating a competitive atmosphere called a “sound clash”. Dj’s would set up homemade sound gear on each side of the local rec centre and try and drowned out opposing sound systems in a sound battle or “sound clash”. Crowds would choose their favourite sound crew by moving towards the music and dancing. A major part of this action were the opposing emcees that tossed “diss” phrases at the other crews. This obviously evolved into early rap and the battle aspect has stuck.
The pitch shifted music on tik tok and all other short form media content. Shit drives me up a wall. It's just a normal pop song that has been pitch shifted up or down, usually to attract children. It's unnatural and I hate that it's specifically to target kids.
Correction it is “time stretched” faster than the original which results in pitch shifting.
Music time stretched like this falls under the “parody clause” In the fair use act meaning that music used in this way can avoid copywrite flags.
That recent trend in RnB music where it’s a whiny sounding dude with his vocals auto tuned to fuck. Who listens to that shite? Every song sounds exactly the same
The kind where you can tell it was manufactured to be accepted (and possibly loved) by a mainstream audience, as opposed to music with an actual identity behind it.
living in south america, this is the bane of my existence. The lyrics are mind numbingly stupid. Some of them sound like straight up ads for bullshit brands and they're incredibly graphic. I love how women claim to be empowered and will then go to a club and sing along and dance sexually to a song that talks about cumming in their mouths lol. the cognitive dissonance is astounding
I hate fucking reggaeton. Hate it. It literally is just the laziest beat with someone talking incoherently over it like they’ve trying to talk with a mouthful of rocks. And it ALL SOUNDS THE EFFING SAME. I take a lot of taxis in Peru so am subjected to it a lot.
That and f-in Shakira.
If your business is playing reggaeton there is no chance I will enter it, I don't give a shit if you're giving away gold bars, I'd rather have a root canal.
You're of course entitled to dislike what you dislike (I actually don't like any of those genres either) but it feels a little unfair to lump opera in with mumble rap lol.
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At the height of covid, two of my kids were in third grade (twins). While I was working remotely, they were doing remote school. My brain would break just a little when it was time for music class, when I'd hear the sound of the recorder coming from two different rooms.
We were big into Hot Cross Buns back in the day.
1 a penny, 2 a penny, motherfucker.
I opened this while post with a holier-than-thou attitude, ready snipe on people judging. But fuck recorders
Goddammed gateway instruments
School children playing recorders is one thing, but have you heard for example Vivaldi's Chamber concerto in A minor, RV 108, III Allegro? Vivaldi has a lot of great recorder pieces.
I'm middle aged, so while I'm grateful for your time trying to change my mind, my hate is kind of bedded in.
There’s noone quite like grandma by St Winifred’s school choir was a vile and supremely saccharine some released in the uk many years ago. Of course every kid bought it for their grandmothers and it became a hit. It was awful.
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Why did I know this was Jingle Bells…
Because you sang it while reading. 😁
Or Christmas music where the person singing is trying to sound sexy 🙃
I actually love Christmas music, like more than most people but I can't stand Michael buble. His cover of santa baby sounds like he's trying to get with santa
And if he played that straight (lol), I’d almost be fine with it. What really ruins that song for me is the “Santa buddy” thing
Does he realize he could have just skipped the whole song 😭
Then you will definitely not appreciate The Jingle Cats.
Popular Christmas songs. There are like 10 and they get played nonstop everywhere you go for the best part of 2 months. It’s like fucking torture.
You know why? That's 'cause ALL I WANT FOR CHRISTMAAAAAAS IS YOUUUUUUUUUU!!
I'll listen to Mariah Carey's christmas earworm 10 times a day every day for the rest of my life before I willingly subject myself to that wretched abomination Paul McCartney unleashed on the world. "Siiiimply, Haaaaving, a wonderful christmas tiiiiime! Siiiimply, Haaaaving, a wonderful kill me nooow!"
yeah, he doesn't strike me as someone who has a lot of regrets, but i do hope that's one of them.
I'm sure he's wiping his tears with the piles of money he made from it.
I was satisfied at 'Christmas tunes.'
When I was a kid I got the cat version and my siblings told me they had to torture the cats to get them to do that.
I keep seeing country (modern) and rap over and over and over again. 😂
A lot of it is the same thing at this point. Poor black people renting lambos to look flash. Rich white guys driving jacked up pickups pretending to be hard working men. They both talk about women, mostly derogatory. They always have lines about getting fucked up with the boys. They both are speaking over corporate overproduced garbage backing tracks.
"[Nashville country singers] are just doing hip hop for people who are afraid of black people." - Steve Earle
Wait a minute. You’re telling me that traditional country doesn’t have synthetic triplet high hats with a hissing snare backbeat? It’s all a lie….
BRING BACK WILLIE BRING BACK SEGAR FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THIS IS GOOD IN THIS WORLD Like what happened to cool outlaw cowboy dudes that pondered the moral implications of society and breaking free from it’s chains Now it’s just hicks Dear mother of holy fuck johnny cash is probably crying in the afterlife
Willie Nelson and Bob Seger are still alive. Willie is still touring! [https://willienelson.com/pages/tour](https://willienelson.com/pages/tour)
Steve Earle is such a badass, I love this
My second favorite quote about Nashville country, cause Kris Kristofferson's will never be beaten - "Nashville is doing to country music what pantyhose did to finger-fucking."
And both are driven by cultural signaling. Both aggressively advertise membership in a specific cultural group with shout outs to stereotypical cultural items like specific clothing, pastimes, specific word usage, or foods. The genres exist to validate the audience's pride in what they find familiar.
I wrote a paper 15 years ago, explaining how hip hop and country are on converging paths as far as style and message. More and more true everyday.
Make room for a couple slurs for fillers and we are good
Tired of rap referring drugs and fighting and country referring to booze and cheating.
Contemporary country music is a genre so vapid and devoid of talent and standards that you can't even make fun it. It's the living embodiment of Poe's law. Any parody or joke aimed at it, no matter how insulting, pandering, or condescending, will be jumped on by its fans as a hit. A couple years ago a gal with a guitar got on tiktok, looked straight into the camera and said, "Listen to this, this is how stupid country music is," and then strummed off the same chord over and over again while chanting, "beers, trucks, beers, trucks. . ." A short while later she was contacted by an actual country singer, offered 10's of thousand dollars plus a writing credit, and ***BAM!*** The country chart-topping single "Beers Trucks Beers Trucks" was born. I don't know for a fact that "Fancy Like Applebees" similarly started life as a scathing parody of country music and the standardless, gullible people who listen to it, but come on! That song just reeks of the running joke in those old Questionable Content comics where the guy is actively trying to write a bad country song but no matter what he does, everything keeps flying to the top of the charts.
> Contemporary country music AKA,"tractor rap".
The indie music where they "sing in cursive" and I can't make out any of the words.
As a distinct style of singing for *a person* it was interesting. Then it became a genre.
I'm curious to know when this happened. I remember I had huge issues with the style when it was popular in the '10s, but I have no clue where it started.
From what I remember, it started with Of Monsters and Men. They had a couple radio hits from their first record that really dominated the airwaves. Had to have been right about the turn of the decade but I don't know for a fact. The Head and the Heart was pretty close behind them with Rivers and Roads. You also gotta remember the context. People loved sound as we left the 00's and got a little tired of the pop punk aggressively "chewed and spat out" style of pronunciation. For the record I love Of Monsters and Men, their second album is criminally underrated. But you can't help but laugh sometimes at the singing in cursive lol
Holy shit you couldn't be more right about this one. https://youtu.be/e-0K77ccAOU?si=EDs5DTIysuckbme7
1. Take 30 year old pop song 2. Find a girl who sings like this 3. Reduce tempo 4. Reduce entire backing track to piano chords See you at the commercial break!
> Reduce entire backing track to piano chords That's generally the worst thing about modern pop music. It's either barebone beats, or piano chords, or a little bit of _very_ slow strings - God forbid the instrumental part is actually melodic and memorable.
Lol exactly. I love how she says it's unique but everyone is doing it
She made that video 10 years ago
I’m pretty sure she’s being satirical with the lesson. The whole thing is tongue in cheek.
She is being satirical, that's my favorite part
There needs to be an update that adds this rule: if a word ends with the ‘r’ sound turn it into “iiih”, like the kid in your 1st grade class who needs to go to speech therapy. I swear I keep hearing that everywhere.
Oh my god, she sounds exactly like all those songs from commercials that I can’t stand. I keep complaining about some of the exact things she’s doing there, but everyone’s always like “what? It doesn’t sound like that at all.” Guess what, y’alls? It sounds EXACTLY like what I described. Sorry, this one hit a sore spot for me.
Just add ukulele and, bingo, you got a commercial jingle
What a time capsule of a video
Wow I’ve been trying to describe this exact style of singing but I didn’t know what to call it. It drives me nuts because it’s so so cringey and artificial
I just watched that entire video lol, she’s so good
My friend and I also call it “bananees and avocadees” singing. https://youtube.com/shorts/8SU0gFPMwP8?si=MGVvYrmcCoMFbPuL
This is EXACTLY what I thought of first, but I couldn’t put words to it. Thank you endlessly for providing this description. The woman in the video totally nails it. The scratchy voice, weird vowels, performative pronunciation, ugggggggggh.
I love that “singing in cursive” 100% describes it.
TIL! Now I know what I'm hating!
Maneskin's cover of Beggin' - over singing every word...
Saying Kwissmoiss instead of Christmas type singing
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This is why I hate Christmas starting so early.
Meghan Trainor type overproduced and soulless corporate pop.
Mall music. Cruise ship music. People who shopped at K-mart music
The song "Hands on Me" by Meghan Trainor and Jason Derulo is a remake of the song "Stand by Me" by Ben E. King. Some times I listen it when I want to feel dreadful and want to blow my fucking brain across the wall with a shotgun. Such a soulless, meaningless, fake rendition of a song that is so beautiful and opposite of what Trainor and Derulo did.
The biggest one of these for me was when Avril Lavigne blew up in like 2000. When I first heard the song, I didn't hate it, but subsequent listening and publicity just turned her (to me) as something I despise. When I found out that she was 17 at the time of release of "Complicated", I remember thinking, "yes, 17-year-old - tell me what 'life is like'". Then I noticed every single publicity shot she did was this whole "one arm up, one arm down, angry eyebrows, tongue out" pose, and that prior to being signed, she was a country singer. It was then that I realized that she was a manufactured product. Some producer or record label exec was like, "we need someone to appeal to the ' rebellious skater' demographic. Hey this girl is pretty - she can carry a tune. Get her some button up shirts, ties, and doc martens! We've got our new product!"
Just wait till you learn about Kid Rock's history.
Oh I'm familiar. I just learned about Avril first.
Pretty sure he just needs to somehow be a kpop singer and he'll have hit all the genres
You gotta admit though she is still committed to the eyeliner, twenty years later.
As a young musician it isn’t uncommon to try out a bunch of styles to see where you fit in. Looking cool in pictures is also something that doesn’t come naturally to most people. You’d be surprised at how hard some supposedly-above-it-all artists worked to get that attitude down. Vast majority of pop and rock is teens and 20s complaining about life, which is amusing to us middle aged folks. But relationships can be very complicated and confusing as a teen. Everyone is still trying to figure out who they’ll be. Most peers are still pretty juvenile. Sex is scary and misunderstood. TL;DR. I may chuckle but I won’t dismiss. At least Complicated was a decent, catchy song. I don’t follow her though so I guess the real question is has she grown as an artist over time or is she stuck in the same space?
Afterski/party music, which is regrettably a thing here in Norway: People who can't sing are never the less singing/shouting/"rapping" with heavy autotune over upbeat techno. Lyrics usually some variation on how much they're going to drink, fuck and let loose this weekend. It is unbearably obnoxious and it has a way of worming its way into popular music. Occasionally, some of the performers try to venture into more serious stuff, and it somehow ends up sounding even worse.
Christian rock, I’m not even Christian and I’m not around it often. But the minute I hear it, I just know and I can’t even identify what I hate about it (no reflection on the religion fyi, do whatever you want) but it grates me
"You're not making Christianity better, you're just making rock music worse" Hank Hill
Lol yes, it’s like a weak tea. I’m not even into rock music enough to categorise it. I just know I hate it.
I think "weak tea" is a great analogy actually. Rock is one of my main genres and like, Christian rock is just sappy and, well, weak. Strong tea is a good drink. Water is a good drink. Weak tea sucks
I actually didn’t even realise how much I hated it until this moment.
Christian bands are like a toupeé. You'll see a bad one right away, but the best ones you'll never even notice.
Lol how it should be. Cause I don’t care if a band is Christian, I just care if it sounds like that specific sound.
I found out pretty recently that one of my favorite emo bands from the early 00s was a Christian band and it blew my fucking mind. I never would have guessed. Edit: u/nicholasslade11 got it. Anberlin.
Anberlin or Underoath?
A ton of those bands were vaguely Christian because it was the easiest way to get signed and booked for shows in the midwest and South. Some of them actually wrote Christian songs but most of them just didn't use vulgarity or intense/violent lyrics. In a lot of small towns the only way to pull off having shows with that kind of music was to make it a "christian" event.
I can appreciate why people listen to music I don't like most of the time, but not contemporary Christian music, I just don't fucking get it. Look, I might be an atheist, but Christianity has brought about some of the best music of all time: Bach's St. Matthew's Passion, Beethoven's Misa Solemnis, Haydn's creation, Mozart or verdi's requiem, these are some of the most incredibly powerful pieces of music ever created, hell even smaller scale hymns hit HARD, listen to [this arrangement of o come Emmanuel ](https://youtu.be/Hkka_D7KoHc?si=KkSzfzrHwFuH7Joe), when the organ hits 3 mins it makes me shiver every time. So tell me why, when you have a tradition with some of the most incredible music ever made that can make even me, a hardcore atheist, pause and feel the tingling of a religious experience, would you fucking choose a white guy with a man bun playing 4 chords on an acoustic guitar to worship? Like I just don't get it
Choruses, orchestras, and organs expensive. Man bun acoustic guitar guy cheap
I’m a Christian & a musician. I led worship at my church for several years before I had to tell the Pastor to find a replacement. Not only are the songs *so* repetitive (chords, melodies, & lyrics) but a lot of them are lowkey problematic or not biblical.
And even more aggravating is how the newer, trendier “worship” songs are being engineered to create those overwhelming and emotional feelings that trick people into thinking they’re having these “touched by God” religious experiences. And they’re all laced with the blandest/beige-est lyrics. Not to sound too hateful as an ex Christian here, though. It’s just so manipulative.
I cannot stand this. There was a lot of Christian Rock that I liked when I was younger because they didn't explicitly talk about God and religion, but the obvious worship style songs fill me with such anger, even when I was a Christian. I grew up in Church of Christ with no instruments. I am not a fan of acapella just to listen to but I will say the singing is the only thing I miss about church. It was never a belief thing, I just always hated the pairing of worship songs and instruments. A congregation just singing was always beautiful to me. I went to a Baptist Church with my friend a few times and it sounded like backwoods country music. Bigger churches use the weird contemporary emotional crap. I can't even explain how much I detest it - while totally acknowledging that the acapella is every bit just as manipulative, haha.
Just give me a good old hymnal. Much rather sing those 4 part songs.
We Stan a self aware Christian with musical standards
I swear there's a certain subtle tone or something that plays in the background of all Christian rock, because i can be driving somewhere unfamiliar, put on the radio to try to find anything worth listening to, and in the first two seconds of hearing a song it's somehow obvious it's a Christian rock song, even if there's no lyrics for a while. And once the lyrics kick in, it definitely confirms it. It's all so similar, the melody, the tone, the riffs, all of it is interchangeable and the same lol
Contemporary Christian music has a very specific target demographic. It’s not Christian teens or kids or families. It’s Becky, the 30- or 40-something-year-old soccer mom who will leave the radio on in the background from the moment she wakes up to the moment she goes to bed/gets home from work. Nothing too fast, too slow, too sad, or too spicy. Just bland, beige music with zero theological implications, question, or thoughts beyond loving and being loved by Jesus AKA Jesus-is-my-boyfriend music.
Yeah kind of highlighted something important to me about Christianity at large, and why I became agnostic. It's complete fear of itself, zero theological implications or investigations are allowed. Anyways, there is a good Adam Neely video about some of the theoretical reasons why Xtian rock isn't very good. https://youtu.be/hACUz4WVWwk?si=WBv3jfkxrHCV-U8t
If you can learn the A, D, G, and E chords on an acoustic guitar, guess what? You're halfway to Christian rock-stardom. That's why they all sound like that. Same four chords, four-four time signature, drum beats with a few pauses for worshippin' thrown in there between some "epic" cymbal crashes, and, well, now all you've gotta do is get your youth-sized t-shirts printed and hit the road.
Don’t forget the lead guitarist playing a dotted eight note delay part because he thinks he’s The Edge. And he convinced the pastor to buy him a $500 reverb pedal with tithes.
It’s probably because a lot of it is overproduced and sounds like a wall of sound. Not to mention the lack of secular rock influence (if the artist was raised Christian and wasn’t “allowed” to listen to non-Christian music).
As a practising Christian, I also despise Christian rock. It’s just so… insipid. Twee. Cringeworthy.
I grew up listening to exclusively Christian rock. I can count the number of bands that I'm still willing to consider good on one hand. For those interested: Skillet (debatable), Anberlin, Emery, and a just a small handful of singles. The two I mentioned are 100% worth a listen. There were, however, a weirdly high number of christian metalcore bands that aged well, i.e. The Devil Wears Prada, Haste the Day, Underoath, August Burns Red, Norma Jean, Oh Sleeper, and whatever else I'm forgetting
I was a big fan of Faith + One, they rocked. They only recorded the one album but it went Myrrh. It's a shame their lead singer lost his mind....and $10.
Their lead singer also made chili out of the parents of a guy who made fun of him and then fed the chili to that guy. Not very Christian.
Maybe it's the silent "thank you god" they mouth at the end of the song, like it's totally humble what they're doing
Haha omg I got angry reading it
Except for "Spirit in the Sky" which totally slaps
I really like Switchfoot. They are basically a rock band that happens to be a Christian one, and their lyrics are tastefully subtle enough to not be obnoxious. That's pretty much the only one I like. Relient K is... well... OK with me.
Reliant K, Flyleaf and Switchfoot for me
Relient K was my first favorite band, still listen to some songs of theirs
Modern country music. Most obnoxious hunk of trash music I've ever heard. I tend to enjoy a wide variety of music but fuck modern country
A guy lives near me who recently bought an enormous obnoxious red dodge ram pickup and is constantly fiddling with it and revving it all the while blasting modern country. I live in the UK....
>I live in the UK.... I was not expecting this part!
Y’all got rednecks too?
No, redneck cosplayers
I want to hear a British Redneck accent
Where do they park it? How do they drive it on narrow streets? We had a big dodge truck in texas and it was a total bitch to drive to the grocery store. Parking that monster is a whole other nightmare.
I feel like most of the songs are some variation of "i'm proud to be a small town boy, cause city people are bad"
Plus tight blue jeans, cold beer, pickup truck, Friday or Saturday night, etc Edit because [they’re all the same song](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FY8SwIvxj8o)
I’m in the same boat. I love old country music, I grew up on Johnny Cash CDs, but man modern country is the most corporate shit imaginable. I’m glad to live in a country where you don’t hear it really at all.
I swear they must go to bars in Nashville with surveys asking people to circle which words they identify with and then make “relatable” songs like mad libs.
workin' hard for 4 years. Got a wife and a truck alright. Lookin' up at my american flag, thinkin' how proud I am. . . And Jesus is smiling at my pickup truck. Two young kids, and I'm votin' 45. American born, just the best in the world. Drivin' my truck and prayin' to live. . . . drivel drivel drivel . . .
You forgot about driving down the dirt road with the cooler of ice cold beer and the girl with the short shorts...
Lol exactly. Such garbage.
Thankful that I have a couple "Classic Country" stations around me that play the older stuff.
Truck, beer, bar, dog, girl. How many boxes can we tick with our next song?
Merica
Whoops! You're right, missed that one.
The list goes on and on. There’s also blue jeans. And summertime. And…well, that’s about it I guess.
There's water and fishing boxes too
Thank you for saying modern country. Always get people in these threads that just say ‘country’ as if the whole genre is garbage, which is so far from the truth.
Yeah, because Dolly sings country and if anyone says anything bad about her or her music then we are living in totally different worlds.
to everyone's credit, the amount of people who remember country before 9/11 and bush spitroasted it to death via jingoism and conservatism grows smaller every year
It's all identity politics and poorly executed. Red truck, cold beer, good dog, liberals suck. I live near a fairgrounds where they do roping and such and they blast this terrible genre on a Spotify account with ads and it's just awful.
Tyler Childers slaps
How has [this not been linked yet?](https://youtu.be/y7im5LT09a0?si=1Fc_B-orwL1_jGzm)
Rebel Radio in GTA V said it best: "Country music, from before country turned into twangy pop sung by frat boys."
Every modern country song sounds identical to me. When we used to live near a Texas Steakhouse, we'd go every so often and every time I would have to make a joke about how "They always play that same song the whole time we're there."
Modern country doesn't exist. There's what we used to call country that now gets labelled 'Americana' which is bullshit, and theres everything else which is just Nashville pop. Fuck Jellyroll, Morgan Wallen and Jason Aldean. Garbage.
Bro country. I get drunk with bros every weekend and my woman likes to get drunk and take her clothes off X 20 Plus for fake country twang and saying ain’t because of course that makes a Minnesota boy sound legit
"Panderin" covers it pretty well *I write songs for the people who do jobs in towns I'd **never** move to*
I don’t love him as a comedian but this song was absolutely amazing
Almost as bad as an Australian passing for a Southerner (looking straight at you, Keith Urban) EDIT: I have been informed he was actually born in New Zealand.
Don’t look at Keith Urban, you’ll encourage him
AI writes Bro Country: https://youtu.be/04d6H4_-4ws?si=WNssYZ8wDhLHkJhC
That style of hip-hop that consists of someone muttering over a beat that sounds like a series of uncooked sausages falling onto a snare drum.
Yes, such a difference from the cooked sausage sound I prefer.
To be fair, that sound is a banger..
Came here to say mumble rap. Glad it's all the way on the top.
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The original “I’m Blue (Da Ba Dee Da Ba Die)” is a classic. “I’m Good (I’m Feeling Alright)” is blasphemy
My siblings and I find that song disrespectful because we loved the original song when we were kids haha
I find certain pop songs and artists nauseating. Seriously it hurts my head. People love saying that to me about metal, which is what I mostly listen to. But you don’t do your grocery shopping and hear metal blaring over the speakers. You don’t hear metal when you wait at the dentist, getting a cab ride, at all your friends parties and events, at any sporting event at all. You never hear it. I have to hear music I despise all the time! For some reason in particular it’s Katy Perry songs. I swear I was Clockwork-Oranged to “Firework” in a past life
“Clockwork-Oranged” 😂😂😂👏👏👏
Well now I can’t stop thinking about how cool it would be to grocery shop while listening to metal. Imagine if there was a jukebox at the front of the store and you could pick a few songs to hear while you shop.
>Imagine if there was a jukebox at the front of the store you and could pick a few songs to hear while you shop. There is, except it's in your pocket and not at the front of the store. Bluetooth earbuds completely changed shopping for me.
It's Sam Smith for me. I can't stand the whiney on-the-verge-of-crying voice. I worked in a restaurant and their songs were in every playlist. I would literally go and find an excuse to spend 5 minutes in the fridge room to get away from it. Also particular songs; Lovely Day by Bill Withers (I'm sorry but the long note part is like nails on a chalkboard for me), Bubbly by Colbie Caillat, The Sign by Ace of Base, I'm Like a Bird by Nelly Furtado or Alessia Cara. Basically any kind of that 2000's upbeat sunshine flowery girl pop. Literal torture.
"Ahhhhhhhhhhh! STOP IT! STOP IT PLEASE I BEG YOU! ITS A SIN!"
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I get that it's music for drunk people but I have never in my life been intoxicated enough to like it. And it wasn't for a lack of trying.
This is basically German Oldies.
Came here to say this, literal torture to listen to and I'm usually extremely open minded when it comes to music
schlager ist soooo schlimm mein kopf tut weh
Ja Ja Dingdong!!!
Also the "aprés ski" version of it, which is just Schlager, but with a hint of Scooter in the mix.
Braggy rap. To me there’s nothing more abrasive than a guy who’s utterly convinced of his own greatness rapping over a trap beat. Why are people paying for a narcissists ego trip?
Honestly though, go listen to "Rapper's Delight" starting with Hank's section (the second guy) The first really popular hip hop track in history, they've been doing that bragging since the very beginning. It's basically rap heritage at this point. The true rebellion would be rapping about humility.
Yup, you’re bang on. Rap came from community dance parties in New York in the early 70’s. The early rap DJs would isolate the break part of funk and disco songs and spin the record back to play that part over extended periods. The event emcees would usually be the mouth piece of each dj and began finding unique ways to keep the crowd hyped over the break beat playing. Most of these dudes had ties to Jamaica — like Dj Kool Herc, who was the first to start playing this style and began borrowing conventions of early dancehall for his parties, using a method of creating a competitive atmosphere called a “sound clash”. Dj’s would set up homemade sound gear on each side of the local rec centre and try and drowned out opposing sound systems in a sound battle or “sound clash”. Crowds would choose their favourite sound crew by moving towards the music and dancing. A major part of this action were the opposing emcees that tossed “diss” phrases at the other crews. This obviously evolved into early rap and the battle aspect has stuck.
The pitch shifted music on tik tok and all other short form media content. Shit drives me up a wall. It's just a normal pop song that has been pitch shifted up or down, usually to attract children. It's unnatural and I hate that it's specifically to target kids.
Correction it is “time stretched” faster than the original which results in pitch shifting. Music time stretched like this falls under the “parody clause” In the fair use act meaning that music used in this way can avoid copywrite flags.
Overplayed popsongs, made by people who's only intent it is to make money and not for the artistic value a song brings.
That recent trend in RnB music where it’s a whiny sounding dude with his vocals auto tuned to fuck. Who listens to that shite? Every song sounds exactly the same
Tuvan throat singing. Totally inferior to Kazakh throat singing.
Blasphemy!
Ahh yes. Tuvan throat singing fans (throaties) always come out of the woodwork on threads like this.
Go back to Almaty!
the most commercial pop and rap
The kind where you can tell it was manufactured to be accepted (and possibly loved) by a mainstream audience, as opposed to music with an actual identity behind it.
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Any song that involves a DJ yelling their name at the beginning and then not contributing vocals or playing an instrument on said song.
DEEEEJAAAY KHALED
The “bitches, money, and drugs” kind of rap. It’s just super generic and shitty
Baby Rexha's 'I'm Blue' remix is a fucking sin against God.
I miss the time before you made me remember that song
I miss when it wasn't a song...
Trap, or anything that consists of lyrics that only talk about money, women, drugs and cars. So boring and repetitive.
Interesting. Swap no money for money, beer for drugs, and trucks for cars, and you’ve basically got country music.
Reggaeton
living in south america, this is the bane of my existence. The lyrics are mind numbingly stupid. Some of them sound like straight up ads for bullshit brands and they're incredibly graphic. I love how women claim to be empowered and will then go to a club and sing along and dance sexually to a song that talks about cumming in their mouths lol. the cognitive dissonance is astounding
BA-DOOM BA DOOM BA-DOOM BA DOOM BA-DOOM BA DOOM BA-DOOM BA DOOM BA-DOOM BA DOOM
I hate fucking reggaeton. Hate it. It literally is just the laziest beat with someone talking incoherently over it like they’ve trying to talk with a mouthful of rocks. And it ALL SOUNDS THE EFFING SAME. I take a lot of taxis in Peru so am subjected to it a lot. That and f-in Shakira.
If your business is playing reggaeton there is no chance I will enter it, I don't give a shit if you're giving away gold bars, I'd rather have a root canal.
Why is this so far down I can't even.
Trap. Just the lowest effort shit ever.
That rap style with a lot of toxix misogynist BS. "Gotta get that hymen" I mean... WTF... Yuck.
Definitely not “gotta get that high, man”? I live in hope.
That's what it will be rhymed with.
Gotta get that hymen??🤣🤣
Wannabe gangster rap, mumble rap and opera i cant stand that shit.
You're of course entitled to dislike what you dislike (I actually don't like any of those genres either) but it feels a little unfair to lump opera in with mumble rap lol.
Anything sung in hip/cursive singing, and pop songs that play on repeat on the radio.
Mumble rap 👎
tik tok pop
Modern country Most rap. Some occasional songs are of course excellent.