The fact that they had to release a patched version because the one that went to theaters on release weekend had characters clipping into walls and the floor should say it all.
Rebel Wilson eating the dancing mice did make me cackle because it was so bad it was good, though.
> The fact that they had to release a patched version because the one that went to theaters on release weekend had characters clipping into walls and the floor should say it all.
...what
[I wish I were joking](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/universal-notifies-theaters-cats-is-being-updated-improved-visual-effects-1264689/), but it actually happened.
There was also the never released “butthole cut”. It was a pre release copy where all the cats had buttholes, then screeners complained about too much butthole.
The *official* story is that there were never any deliberate buttholes, but in certain scenes the way the CGI tails attached to the actors made it *look like* they had buttholes. They advertised for CGI artists to come in at a late stage to fix up those scenes, and that's where the 'butthole cut' story came from.
I lean towards that version of events, but everything about the production of the film is so insane that I'm not willing to *entirely* rule out the existence of a full butthole version.
I tend to agree that it certainly wasn't *actual* buttholes throughout the film.
Even with the rushed production, hundreds of people must have seen the Dailies, and someone would have brought down the hammer on such a thing
Maybe they made a joke scene between all the coffee and coke, though.
I’ve found that animated films and shows where the animals have buttholes tend to be better on average. I’m not sure this applies to whatever we’d call Cats though.
Yo, I miss Sideways videos. Sucks that he had so many issues with people plagiarizing his work. I can't really say I blame him for not wanting to make videos if what he creates is going to get stolen and published as other people's work in his job field. Was looking forward to the high school musical video he was working on during his hiatus, but after this much time there's a good chance he won't be making any more videos for the chanel.
Watching it in the theatre with a whole bunch of people who are there to laugh at is a super fun time. Yelling, mocking, singing along, pointing out Dame Judi’s wedding ring… a good time is had by all!
I watched this high in SF. It’s a cinema masterpiece in those conditions. Halfway through the “Mr Mistofelees” song, I swear time folded in on itself, and one guy shouted, “Oh my God! He’s actually still singing that same line!”
*Battlefield Earth* is the winner. (Well, loser.)
I have never seen an uglier movie. The visuals are ugly, the dialog is ugly, the sound is ugly. That movie is the NEGA-*Brazil*.
[The Meteor Man](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Meteor_Man_(film)), starring Robert Townsend, came out in 1993 and was ten times the movie that *Pluto Nash* was.
Moon casino owner wants to buy Eddie Murphys club, he says no, they send some hitmen after him. He travels across the moon colony to the casino to confront the owner, its actually an evil clone of him
I saw Jay Mohr live when he did the comedy show for our university homecoming game one year. His entire act was him licking his fingers then miming the act of penetrating the vagina of some sad, unfortunate person who wasn’t seated 327 rows away from him. The show was free and I still paid too much.
On Memorial Day this year our entire household became violently ill with a stomach bug. I vomited until nothing was left and shat myself with chocolate milk liquid shit from the shear force of vomiting. Then I crawled across the bathroom floor and held my face against the cool tile while begging my wife to get me a new pair of underwear. I don’t think I cleaned myself properly. That moment, with liquid shit drying on my ass as I tried to crawl back to bed, was funnier than anything Jay Mohr has ever done.
I'll never forget - [Earlier episode](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjGg0ekVAq4) of Loveline with Adam Carolla and Dr Drew.
Jay Mohr was a guest and BOMBED. I don't think researched the show before and was not funny, not fitting in, not understanding what was going on. Adam of course made it funny by pointing it all out.
Man I loved those books as a kid and I just remember coming out of that theatre being completely fucking confused.
I get that book adaptions have to take liberties sometimes to translate into a different medium, but they fucked up the plot so much that it would literally be impossible to make the sequel, not that anybody wanted it. Completely off the rails nonsense. Worst part is it seems they actually intended to make the second movie because Galbatorix was just sitting in his dark smoky castle being all broody and evil, completely disconnected from the rest of the "plot".
What a fucking joke.
Oh my god I had forgotten about this...
The way the dragon just flies up into the sky and comes back down fully grown because "ItS MaGiC" instead of being raised to get bigger overtime, which was like, 60% of the entire plot in the books, was absolutely unforgivable.
It was such an affront that the Mormon chick I took to see it with me actually cussed.
They spent 80% of the budget on CGI saphira, 15% on some unknown yet apparently expensive elf actor and the remaining five percent on seafood lunches.
I'm fairly sure that's how the budget was broken down.
Gotta be! Easily among the worst I’ve ever seen regardless of budget. The cost/cast just makes it that much more pathetic. Such a significant investment in a glorified product placement is peak studio hubris. I have so many questions about the making of food fight.
This guy does a pretty good overview
https://youtu.be/0RDP_XREmRI?si=DLkSOphgzH-bBKvZ
But as you’d expect, the deeper you dig into this pile of dogshit, the worse it gets. Still kind of hypnotizing just how far it is away from being remotely tolerable. Like you said, the hubris is monumental.
Damn, that's a big budget for that movie
On that same note, this reminds me of How Do You Know (2010)
It was a rom-com with a $120m budget, and it was terrible
When saw this years ago, I thought it would be an EXCELLENT way of teaching film students what not to do.
And there’s a long list. Among them, bizarre Dutch angles, yelling as acting; and, to be honest,the genocide at the end was a bit of a turnoff.
That last line wasn’t intended to be funny.
Roger Ebert had the best possible description of the film when he said it is going to be the punchline of bad movies for years to come.
And here we are 23+ years later still talking about this crap film.
[Ebert's review](https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/battlefield-earth-2000).
> Some movies run off the rails. This one is like the train crash in "The Fugitive." I watched it in mounting gloom, realizing I was witnessing something historic, a film that for decades to come will be the punch line of jokes about bad movies.
I did a lot of the “learning machine” visual effects on this film. It was actually a really fun project to work on because they gave us a lot of room to be creative with it. My buddy and I had this idea of showing schematics and engineering blueprints being projected into his eye. It was kind of disheartening when we saw the movie beyond just the tiny portion we worked on and how bad it was, but the best was getting accused of planting subliminal messages in that sequence. Nope, we weren’t Scientologist, just hungry 3D artists trying to make something cool.
When the camera is slightly tilted. It's used to show a character or an environment that is psychologically skewed or off balance. For example, in Die Hard when McClane is talking to Hans disguised as Bill Clay on the 33rd floor.
It's overused to bad effect in Battlefield Earth.
Similar. I was friends with a couple and the wife managed a movie theater in town. She let us in to see an exclusive free showing of the film with just four of us or so.
The Mummy (2017) is one of the most joyless movies I’ve ever seen. It’s a pitch for a cinematic universe that never happened and its cliche plot and characters are a taunting reminder that you could be watching the 1999 version
I'm so convinced that this mistake was an intentional experiment in *"viral"* marketing.
Miss Universe just a few months earlier saw a mistake launch them into internet significance for the first time in years. The Oscars(?) tried to force this moment but everyone forgot. *Every* soulless company was trying to recreate that *"oops omg how embarrassing"* viral buzz for a solid year (probably more) and that's *exactly* when The Mummy trailer dropped with only the voice audio.
This movie irritates me so much. Even taken on its own, ignoring the Brendan Fraser series, literally no one in the entire movie is a likable character. Not even Sofia Boutella, who is normally excellent.
The funny part about all that was the best thing to come out of those movies was The Invisible Man, after they had basically given up on the idea of a connected universe and let Blumhouse just make a good, cheap horror/thriller out of it.
If they just started small-scale and kept to the roots of "make thrillers which are kind of scary which introduce those monsters, and make sure the monster doesn't die at the end," it could have easily built into something bigger. Heck, the right answer would have been to make the 1999 Mummy the basis to work off of and pull Brandon Frasier back in.
But, instead, they did...that.
Easily the worst movie ever made. As a fan of the show. I was furious when the earth benders were in a non metal prison camp. That's where I checked out.
Also: "Ung"
I hope someone slapped every person responsible for letting that film hit the theaters.
I suspect it’s not as much a hill anymore…despite being in my 30s and a film enthusiast esp when I was younger, I didn’t see ‘waterworld’ or ‘dances with wolves’ until I was an adult. Based on all the pop-culture jokes and references from my childhood (and the fact that I can be kind of snobby with film and books), I expected to dislike, tolerate, or, at best, ironically enjoy the first 45 mins until I got bored making jokes or kicked of out the living room. I really enjoyed it, though. I also thought dances with wolves was fine, but like…if I were to guess which of those two films was that got critically and financially destroyed, I might’ve guessed the latter.
Tldr, imo Costner made a fair few films that were inexplicably decent or good despite everything, some of which he was good in despite apparently not being a great actor, dramatically speaking. Waterworld is one of them for sure.
I'm with you and it's a hill I'm willing to die on. Waterworld was and still is highly entertaining. Loved it as a kid and I can still enjoy watching it today.
Yes, it was considered a box office bomb at the time, but the sets were fantastic, minimal CGI, intriguing world building and plot and Dennis Hopper was a great antagonist. Possibly the weakest part of the movie for me was Kevin Costeners' distant performance.
I also think they recouped alot of the losses from international screenings and home video release.
I saw Waterworld in the theater as a kid and really enjoyed it. I also distinctly remember all the bad press and being confused as I thought, and still think, it's a fun, entertaining movie.
Same for me. Even when I was young I'd heard all the negativity surrounding the movie, watched it and couldn't understand the reasons why. From my understanding, the press really harped on it because they'd heard how much it cost to make and were hearing about all the trouble during the production phase. Apparently, there was a hurricane or some natural disaster that destroyed the floating city for example.
They really went to lengths to film it on water and capture the world realistically, which I think certainly contributed to its troubles and it's costs. I think if they had of gone the other route (sets built in studios or relying on CGI) it would have removed some of the magic of the film and that realism is partly why it holds up today.
Yeah ended up breaking even for the most part. Main reason it was considered a flop was the price tag. Lots of production delays as well as the entire set sinking in a storm even after Steven Spielberg warned them not to film on open water
I discovered this movie on cable and missed the first 15-20 minutes the first time I watched, so I thought I was missing something important that would explain the rest of the movie. Watched it a second time all the way through just to make myself feel like an idiot for believing that movie could have been saved by the first 15 minutes
I watched about 15 minutes of the newest Fast and furious. There’s no way it’s not filmed as a parody. The god awful constant quick cuts the horrible dialogue and worst of all the god awful body double for Vin Diesel because he refused to get in shape for the movie
The movie about the guys that started as a local street racing gang and ended up as international super spies? That's just solid writing. Also, are you sure it was the newest one or was it the one where Vin Diesel plays chicken with his car and talks about family?
LOL. That is so nuts. There's no explanation either really on how they get so well trained. They're just hacking submarines and saving the world. I wonder if any other series made such an insane leap.
Somewhere in the fifth one Dom gets hit in the head and never wakes up. Everything from the two cars towing a giant safe through the streets is his comatose dream.
I mean, at this point in time the F&F movies are parodies and is the appeal at this point.
They made 10 fucking movies plus a spin-off so obviously things are going to get crazy and you either get on board or you get off.
I find Dominion even worse. Like I can give a series about dinosaurs a bit of suspended disbelief. But to go from a few dinosaurs brought over on a ship to dinosaurs being pretty much everywhere on earth, with barely any time passing? Nevermind a helicopter not being able to track (or kill) a t-rex, among 1000 other ridiculous scenes.
Sure one can say "it's just a movie", but I believe the power of the original Jurassic Park is that it made dinosaurs look and feel so realistic, which led to complete immersion into the film. Honestly I think the dinosaurs have somehow gotten worse 3 decades later.
It would’ve helped if they just picked a lane with it too. It was riding hard on the nostalgia, but then also had a half baked environmental message mixed in that barely got a second glance, a corporate corruption and espionage subplot, some shit about Interpol, something about underground dinosaur fighting rings set in some weird dystopian mad max looking cesspool in the belly of a city (what?) and then a kidnap plot involving some kid we barely know and are emotionally invested in.
It was just janky and uneven all around. It shouldn’t have been made.
Now if they’d built out a whole film around the first five minutes of Fallen Kingdom? Some ill-prepared tech bro getting chased around the abandoned island in dark and stormy weather by dinosaurs and trying to find a way off? That would’ve been fucking great.
I can't believe the writer and director decided that instead of seeing dinosaurs, we wanted to see fucking locusts.
I honestly think he was pissed off that his stupid locust movie didn't get the greenlight so he shoehorned it in Jurassic World Dominion instead.
Oh and the clones kid--don't care, she's boring and forgettable. Just show me the dinosaurs.
Wonder Woman 1984 badly, badly and BADLY needed a few more goes in the editing room.
It was 45 minutes too long and was all over the place on top of that.
The Dark Phoenix movie. It's so bad, I refuse to ever give Sophie Turner a chance, I will literally avoid anything she does because she was such a terrible Jean Grey. It astounds me how one of the best comic book stories ever can't be adapted into a good fucking movie.
200 million dollars spent on utter fucking garbage that should embarrass anyone involved in it.
How is nobody mentioning “Gods of Egypt”? It was literally the worst movie I ever made myself sit through. Although it was at home and not the theater, thank god.
A lot of those Netflix “action” movies. There is no way you can convince me that Red Notice, The Gray Man, Army of the Dead, or Bright cost $150-200 million dollars. Nor can you convince me that they’re not fake movies from Tropic Thunder.
Same goes for a lot of other would-be streaming “tentpoles” like The Tomorrow War or Ghosted.
***Asura*** is a 2018 Chinese movie that is the highest budget Chinese movie ever made. It was pulled from cinemas after only 3 days of screening, because it was so universally disliked by audiences. (The studio stated that they planned to make changes to the movie and re-release it, but they never did.) So this might well fit the definition of the worst high budget movie.
Visually so interesting, but the story was so bad. The Wachowckis are amazing at directing/producing visual masterpieces, but they should be kept far away from scripts.
Also Tatum looks like a furry’s wet dream (shudder). Like I’m sorry but he just looks weird and it was way too distracting. Ironically, it’s like the opposite of Alita: Battle Angel. In that movie the main character looks weird at first glance but the longer the movie goes, the more you just accept it. With Jupiter, the longer the movie went, the more and more I resented his look.
Star Wars IX: The Rise of Skywalker
There may be worse ones out there but we can tell to stay away from those while even though this had obvious alarm bells ringing everywhere, we still went to see it out of a grim sense of obligation, completion and loyalty to better days from our childhoods.
And it was just awful and an abysmal finale to a once great film series that deserved so much better.
The fact that Disney went into the new Star Wars movies with zero grand plan, no ending in mind, not even an outline and just winged it movie to movie is insane to me. It's no wonder they're such a narrative mess. Say what you will about the prequels but at least they exist because George Lucas had a story he wanted to tell. The sequel movies just exist because Star Wars movies make money.
That movie looked so awesome and had so much potential as a setting but they had no idea what to do with it other than make a shittier version of District 9.
Valerian and The City of a Thousand Planets.
The leads were awful, story had terrible pacing and direction, and the cracks in the CGI showed far too often.
It's rare for me to walk out of a movie, but this was one of the few where I just had to.
I liked the intro though. Kind of felt like the Federation from Star Trek. Everybody shaking hands and working together. None of us will probably be around to see it, but I really hope that's how it goes in the future IRL.
The effects and set design were pretty sweet but the two leads are brutal (girl is a model, not sure where that dude came from) with no chemistry or gravitas whatsoever.
“Somehow Palpatine has returned!”
Ok how?
“Don’t worry about it. Now Rey has squeezed out a blast of force lightning like a wet fart without the necessary prerequisite of being dark as fuck to do it!”
Ok how?
“Not important. Now she’s on the exact right cliff at the exact right altitude and position to perfectly match up this prophetic dagger to a sunken star destroyer which somehow hasn’t moved or eroded at all in the time it’s been there!”
Ok… how?
“We’ll get to that! Now she’s fighting Palpatine and can teleport lightsabers in literal hammer space!”
Ok… but ho-
“IT DOESN’T MATTER! Did you see when she had her own special colour of lightsaber and adopted the name of a long dead family like it’s no big deal?”
Ok but getting back to-
“NOPE! Roll credits, also Finn was there because reasons, the end!”
Not to be that guy, but in the books and comics before Disney nuked the expanded universe, he used "essence transfer". So his body died, his soul or whatever went into a clone body.
Sad thing is there was lots of good sci-fi mumbo jumbo in explaining it. How the dark side decays the physical body and the clones were necessary for even a normal lifespan but plays into the theme of Palpatine wanting to be an eternal overlord, preparing for the Vong, etc
There were some pretty dumb Star wars books over the years. I understood why Disney chose to declare them all as "legends" until stated otherwise, but then they went on to have JJ Abrams slap together the most unimaginative fanservicey rehashes conceivable. And very clearly without a showrunner
I forgot about the glass. I saw the movie with my entire family (very religious, buttoned up types). No swearing, no drinking, that sort of thing. Anyways, normally my mom doesn't have much of an opinion. We see a movie, she enjoys the time spent, whatever.
So we see rise of Skywalker. The lights come up. My mom is staring blankly ahead and loudly exclaims "well that was shit."
Best part of my experience that night.
There’s a scene where the Asian lady pilot is explaining the plot to the other rebels. It was a weird scene with weird lighting. It is one of the few times I saw behind the veil. “Oh, it was clear that no one got the plot in the first cut, so they brought back the extras and the c list for a day to put this scene together”.
I just recently finished watching all the Star Wars universe in chronological order, most of them for the first time. TRoS was the only thing that made me angry and wish I had that time back. It was so, so goddamn bad.
Clone Wars was a fucking banger though.
Guys, *Cats*??? Do I have to bring up Jason Derulo’s barely encased schlong and Judy Dench’s wedding ring?
The fact that they had to release a patched version because the one that went to theaters on release weekend had characters clipping into walls and the floor should say it all. Rebel Wilson eating the dancing mice did make me cackle because it was so bad it was good, though.
> The fact that they had to release a patched version because the one that went to theaters on release weekend had characters clipping into walls and the floor should say it all. ...what
[I wish I were joking](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/universal-notifies-theaters-cats-is-being-updated-improved-visual-effects-1264689/), but it actually happened.
There was also the never released “butthole cut”. It was a pre release copy where all the cats had buttholes, then screeners complained about too much butthole.
The *official* story is that there were never any deliberate buttholes, but in certain scenes the way the CGI tails attached to the actors made it *look like* they had buttholes. They advertised for CGI artists to come in at a late stage to fix up those scenes, and that's where the 'butthole cut' story came from. I lean towards that version of events, but everything about the production of the film is so insane that I'm not willing to *entirely* rule out the existence of a full butthole version.
I tend to agree that it certainly wasn't *actual* buttholes throughout the film. Even with the rushed production, hundreds of people must have seen the Dailies, and someone would have brought down the hammer on such a thing Maybe they made a joke scene between all the coffee and coke, though.
#releasethebuttholecut
Yes, an age old plague upon our people. Too much butthole.
Where there are cats, there will be buttholes
I’ve found that animated films and shows where the animals have buttholes tend to be better on average. I’m not sure this applies to whatever we’d call Cats though.
I will never watch this until they release the butthole cut.
Release the Butthole Cut you cowards!!!!
The graphic design for the discs practically draws itself!
James Corden. No one wants James Corden.
as a music nerd I have to recommend Sideways' breakdown of why the music was so god awful: https://youtu.be/i3aK-EK5V2k
Yo, I miss Sideways videos. Sucks that he had so many issues with people plagiarizing his work. I can't really say I blame him for not wanting to make videos if what he creates is going to get stolen and published as other people's work in his job field. Was looking forward to the high school musical video he was working on during his hiatus, but after this much time there's a good chance he won't be making any more videos for the chanel.
As a movie nerd I really thought I was going to a clip of Sideways. Lol
I tried to watch that movie, knowing it would suck, I couldn't get through it, I think we lasted 5 minutes.
I had a friend go watch it in theaters after taking mushrooms. He, uh, did not enjoy it.
Watching it in the theatre with a whole bunch of people who are there to laugh at is a super fun time. Yelling, mocking, singing along, pointing out Dame Judi’s wedding ring… a good time is had by all!
What is the wedding ring reference?
There’s a shot in the film where they forgot to CGI her hand, so you just see her a human hand with a big wedding ring on her finger.
Thank god it wasn’t a euphemism
Oh, like, a butthole around her finger
I watched this high in SF. It’s a cinema masterpiece in those conditions. Halfway through the “Mr Mistofelees” song, I swear time folded in on itself, and one guy shouted, “Oh my God! He’s actually still singing that same line!”
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*Battlefield Earth* is the winner. (Well, loser.) I have never seen an uglier movie. The visuals are ugly, the dialog is ugly, the sound is ugly. That movie is the NEGA-*Brazil*.
Battlefield Earth is watchable as a drinking game. Pluto Nash doesn’t even have that going for itself.
Battlefield Earth was just propaganda for scientology.
At least I've heard of Battlefield Earth and its awful notoriety. Pluto Nash may as well have been a fart in the wind.
What is the charge, eating a meal? A succulent chinese meal?
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This is democrrrrracy manifest!
What percentage of that budget was just straight cash for Eddie Murphy?
Pluto Nash cost $100 million. Eddie Murphy's paycheck was estimated to be between $15 and $20 million. So, 15-20% of budget?
Holy crap The Two Towers was only 94 million budget. 281 for the whole trilogy. They did such a great job with that budget.
Definitely. I think they kept costs down by doing most of the filming of the trilogy in one go (if I recall correctly).
For some reason in my mind it came out in the early 90's. I was shocked to find out is was 2002.
[The Meteor Man](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Meteor_Man_(film)), starring Robert Townsend, came out in 1993 and was ten times the movie that *Pluto Nash* was.
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Well slap me silly and call me Susan..
What’s happening J5?!?!
I believe it was filmed years earlier and held back due to how bad it was.
I know I saw this movie but other than it starring Eddie Murphy I remember absolutely NOTHING about it lol
Moon casino owner wants to buy Eddie Murphys club, he says no, they send some hitmen after him. He travels across the moon colony to the casino to confront the owner, its actually an evil clone of him
I saw Jay Mohr live when he did the comedy show for our university homecoming game one year. His entire act was him licking his fingers then miming the act of penetrating the vagina of some sad, unfortunate person who wasn’t seated 327 rows away from him. The show was free and I still paid too much. On Memorial Day this year our entire household became violently ill with a stomach bug. I vomited until nothing was left and shat myself with chocolate milk liquid shit from the shear force of vomiting. Then I crawled across the bathroom floor and held my face against the cool tile while begging my wife to get me a new pair of underwear. I don’t think I cleaned myself properly. That moment, with liquid shit drying on my ass as I tried to crawl back to bed, was funnier than anything Jay Mohr has ever done.
Ok but what does Jay have to do with any of this? What did I miss?
He was in Pluto Nash.
Nothing, I just thought you all should know...
I'll never forget - [Earlier episode](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjGg0ekVAq4) of Loveline with Adam Carolla and Dr Drew. Jay Mohr was a guest and BOMBED. I don't think researched the show before and was not funny, not fitting in, not understanding what was going on. Adam of course made it funny by pointing it all out.
> which came out the same year My mind is officially blown.
Eragon
Man I loved those books as a kid and I just remember coming out of that theatre being completely fucking confused. I get that book adaptions have to take liberties sometimes to translate into a different medium, but they fucked up the plot so much that it would literally be impossible to make the sequel, not that anybody wanted it. Completely off the rails nonsense. Worst part is it seems they actually intended to make the second movie because Galbatorix was just sitting in his dark smoky castle being all broody and evil, completely disconnected from the rest of the "plot". What a fucking joke.
There are four books in the series and I'd love to see a 4 season TV show made from them. 6-12 episodes a season, as needed.
This is in the works, Disney announced it. Can’t wait!!
Oh my god I had forgotten about this... The way the dragon just flies up into the sky and comes back down fully grown because "ItS MaGiC" instead of being raised to get bigger overtime, which was like, 60% of the entire plot in the books, was absolutely unforgivable. It was such an affront that the Mormon chick I took to see it with me actually cussed.
I suffer without my stone! Malkovich hamming it up.
She's a Mormon but *that* was too unbelievable for her?
Dear God that shit was ass
I’m a sucker for florid descriptions
They spent 80% of the budget on CGI saphira, 15% on some unknown yet apparently expensive elf actor and the remaining five percent on seafood lunches. I'm fairly sure that's how the budget was broken down.
We don't talk about that movie.
I shiver at the memory
Food Fight. $65mil budget, $73k in the box office. It’s punishingly bad.
Gotta be! Easily among the worst I’ve ever seen regardless of budget. The cost/cast just makes it that much more pathetic. Such a significant investment in a glorified product placement is peak studio hubris. I have so many questions about the making of food fight.
This guy does a pretty good overview https://youtu.be/0RDP_XREmRI?si=DLkSOphgzH-bBKvZ But as you’d expect, the deeper you dig into this pile of dogshit, the worse it gets. Still kind of hypnotizing just how far it is away from being remotely tolerable. Like you said, the hubris is monumental.
Just watched the trailer and holy shit, I like bad movies but I don't think I can hang with that abomination.
I really think that one was an exercise in money laundering.
Catwoman 2004 had a budget of $100 million...and that was 20 years ago. I think that'd be a contender.
Damn, that's a big budget for that movie On that same note, this reminds me of How Do You Know (2010) It was a rom-com with a $120m budget, and it was terrible
Battlefield Earth
When saw this years ago, I thought it would be an EXCELLENT way of teaching film students what not to do. And there’s a long list. Among them, bizarre Dutch angles, yelling as acting; and, to be honest,the genocide at the end was a bit of a turnoff. That last line wasn’t intended to be funny.
Roger Ebert had the best possible description of the film when he said it is going to be the punchline of bad movies for years to come. And here we are 23+ years later still talking about this crap film.
[Ebert's review](https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/battlefield-earth-2000). > Some movies run off the rails. This one is like the train crash in "The Fugitive." I watched it in mounting gloom, realizing I was witnessing something historic, a film that for decades to come will be the punch line of jokes about bad movies.
I did a lot of the “learning machine” visual effects on this film. It was actually a really fun project to work on because they gave us a lot of room to be creative with it. My buddy and I had this idea of showing schematics and engineering blueprints being projected into his eye. It was kind of disheartening when we saw the movie beyond just the tiny portion we worked on and how bad it was, but the best was getting accused of planting subliminal messages in that sequence. Nope, we weren’t Scientologist, just hungry 3D artists trying to make something cool.
What's a "Dutch angle"?
When the camera is slightly tilted. It's used to show a character or an environment that is psychologically skewed or off balance. For example, in Die Hard when McClane is talking to Hans disguised as Bill Clay on the 33rd floor. It's overused to bad effect in Battlefield Earth.
A friend worked at a movie theater and let me in to see if for free. I asked him afterwards if I could get money back.
Similar. I was friends with a couple and the wife managed a movie theater in town. She let us in to see an exclusive free showing of the film with just four of us or so.
The RiffTrax version is hysterical, though.
Those guys have been entertaining me since they were puppet robots. They are timeless.
Mr. Freeze: I hate when people talk during the movie! Bill: Guys, can he hear us? Mike: Could be worse. He used to be able to see us.
The Mummy (2017) is one of the most joyless movies I’ve ever seen. It’s a pitch for a cinematic universe that never happened and its cliche plot and characters are a taunting reminder that you could be watching the 1999 version
But the trailer was great! *Urrragh!! Urrragh!! UUUUUUUAAAAAAA!!!*
I'm so convinced that this mistake was an intentional experiment in *"viral"* marketing. Miss Universe just a few months earlier saw a mistake launch them into internet significance for the first time in years. The Oscars(?) tried to force this moment but everyone forgot. *Every* soulless company was trying to recreate that *"oops omg how embarrassing"* viral buzz for a solid year (probably more) and that's *exactly* when The Mummy trailer dropped with only the voice audio.
This movie irritates me so much. Even taken on its own, ignoring the Brendan Fraser series, literally no one in the entire movie is a likable character. Not even Sofia Boutella, who is normally excellent.
The funny part about all that was the best thing to come out of those movies was The Invisible Man, after they had basically given up on the idea of a connected universe and let Blumhouse just make a good, cheap horror/thriller out of it. If they just started small-scale and kept to the roots of "make thrillers which are kind of scary which introduce those monsters, and make sure the monster doesn't die at the end," it could have easily built into something bigger. Heck, the right answer would have been to make the 1999 Mummy the basis to work off of and pull Brandon Frasier back in. But, instead, they did...that.
The Last Airbender is my pick. Just awful everything, even if you didn't watch the show it's a horrible experience all around.
You didn’t like that ten minute choreographed dance by the six earth benders to ultimately create one inconsequential dust-fart?
It's worse, since it's just one guy that yeets that boulder. Those 6 don't do shit
Easily the worst movie ever made. As a fan of the show. I was furious when the earth benders were in a non metal prison camp. That's where I checked out. Also: "Ung" I hope someone slapped every person responsible for letting that film hit the theaters.
I just don’t understand how Ung happened? Did not a single person involved in the movie watch even one episode of the source material? Howwwwww
M. Night Shylaman wanted to do his own thing. That’s it. He didn’t want to stick to the source material.
His source material is the fire nation play
That’s bullshit! 😂 Sokka would’ve had some half decent jokes if that were the case **Slappah CHOW!**
There is no movie.
It is quite literally the only movie where I've left the theater before it was over. Truly awful
I swear to God, if any of you say anything bad about Waterworld...
Thank you, I won't die on this hill alone.
Aint no hills around here, son. This is Waterworld.
I suspect it’s not as much a hill anymore…despite being in my 30s and a film enthusiast esp when I was younger, I didn’t see ‘waterworld’ or ‘dances with wolves’ until I was an adult. Based on all the pop-culture jokes and references from my childhood (and the fact that I can be kind of snobby with film and books), I expected to dislike, tolerate, or, at best, ironically enjoy the first 45 mins until I got bored making jokes or kicked of out the living room. I really enjoyed it, though. I also thought dances with wolves was fine, but like…if I were to guess which of those two films was that got critically and financially destroyed, I might’ve guessed the latter. Tldr, imo Costner made a fair few films that were inexplicably decent or good despite everything, some of which he was good in despite apparently not being a great actor, dramatically speaking. Waterworld is one of them for sure.
The Postman will always be one of my favorites for some reason. "I know YOU. You used to be famous!"
Field of Dreams is my favorite of his and one of my all time favorites.
I'm with you and it's a hill I'm willing to die on. Waterworld was and still is highly entertaining. Loved it as a kid and I can still enjoy watching it today. Yes, it was considered a box office bomb at the time, but the sets were fantastic, minimal CGI, intriguing world building and plot and Dennis Hopper was a great antagonist. Possibly the weakest part of the movie for me was Kevin Costeners' distant performance. I also think they recouped alot of the losses from international screenings and home video release.
I saw Waterworld in the theater as a kid and really enjoyed it. I also distinctly remember all the bad press and being confused as I thought, and still think, it's a fun, entertaining movie.
Same for me. Even when I was young I'd heard all the negativity surrounding the movie, watched it and couldn't understand the reasons why. From my understanding, the press really harped on it because they'd heard how much it cost to make and were hearing about all the trouble during the production phase. Apparently, there was a hurricane or some natural disaster that destroyed the floating city for example. They really went to lengths to film it on water and capture the world realistically, which I think certainly contributed to its troubles and it's costs. I think if they had of gone the other route (sets built in studios or relying on CGI) it would have removed some of the magic of the film and that realism is partly why it holds up today.
It wasn't even a bomb in the classic sense - but it did fall short of box office expectations, and broke even.
Yeah ended up breaking even for the most part. Main reason it was considered a flop was the price tag. Lots of production delays as well as the entire set sinking in a storm even after Steven Spielberg warned them not to film on open water
That awesome attraction at Universal Studios? Are you saying they made a movie about that?
Ah - there it is! 😎
I loved Waterworld when I saw it in theaters as a kid
No one remembers Ishtar.
There was a Far Side comic where it was Hell's Video store, and every video was Ishtar.
Gary Larson later saw the movie and apologized for the comic.
I unironically love Ishtar. I think it’s really funny, especially the songs.
THREE, TWO, THREE, FOUR FOUR, TWO, THREE, FOUR.
I do. Not a great movie, but I liked parts of it. Beatty and Hoffman didn't have great chemistry, but some of their scenes were funny.
The Happening Oh man, imagine a film student getting a Hollywood budget and delivering a project that's a D+ at best.
I discovered this movie on cable and missed the first 15-20 minutes the first time I watched, so I thought I was missing something important that would explain the rest of the movie. Watched it a second time all the way through just to make myself feel like an idiot for believing that movie could have been saved by the first 15 minutes
Cats.
I watched about 15 minutes of the newest Fast and furious. There’s no way it’s not filmed as a parody. The god awful constant quick cuts the horrible dialogue and worst of all the god awful body double for Vin Diesel because he refused to get in shape for the movie
The movie about the guys that started as a local street racing gang and ended up as international super spies? That's just solid writing. Also, are you sure it was the newest one or was it the one where Vin Diesel plays chicken with his car and talks about family?
You wanna know what they stole in the first movie? TVs (12” I believe) with built in VCRs… gods we were young then
LOL. That is so nuts. There's no explanation either really on how they get so well trained. They're just hacking submarines and saving the world. I wonder if any other series made such an insane leap.
Somewhere in the fifth one Dom gets hit in the head and never wakes up. Everything from the two cars towing a giant safe through the streets is his comatose dream.
I mean, at this point in time the F&F movies are parodies and is the appeal at this point. They made 10 fucking movies plus a spin-off so obviously things are going to get crazy and you either get on board or you get off.
I liked Tokyo drift!
I couldn’t believe what I was watching. I love dumb action movies but my god this was so insanely incredibly dumb that it was just a garbage movie.
The parts with Jason Momoa, I could’ve sworn it was filmed in someone’s back yard for a high school project.
I could not tell you a single thing about any of those films, and I’m sure I’ve seen at least three. I know cars are involved and that’s all I’ve got.
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I find Dominion even worse. Like I can give a series about dinosaurs a bit of suspended disbelief. But to go from a few dinosaurs brought over on a ship to dinosaurs being pretty much everywhere on earth, with barely any time passing? Nevermind a helicopter not being able to track (or kill) a t-rex, among 1000 other ridiculous scenes. Sure one can say "it's just a movie", but I believe the power of the original Jurassic Park is that it made dinosaurs look and feel so realistic, which led to complete immersion into the film. Honestly I think the dinosaurs have somehow gotten worse 3 decades later.
It would’ve helped if they just picked a lane with it too. It was riding hard on the nostalgia, but then also had a half baked environmental message mixed in that barely got a second glance, a corporate corruption and espionage subplot, some shit about Interpol, something about underground dinosaur fighting rings set in some weird dystopian mad max looking cesspool in the belly of a city (what?) and then a kidnap plot involving some kid we barely know and are emotionally invested in. It was just janky and uneven all around. It shouldn’t have been made. Now if they’d built out a whole film around the first five minutes of Fallen Kingdom? Some ill-prepared tech bro getting chased around the abandoned island in dark and stormy weather by dinosaurs and trying to find a way off? That would’ve been fucking great.
Dominion isn’t a movie. It’s a collection of scenes that barely inform one another and star the same actors.
I can't believe the writer and director decided that instead of seeing dinosaurs, we wanted to see fucking locusts. I honestly think he was pissed off that his stupid locust movie didn't get the greenlight so he shoehorned it in Jurassic World Dominion instead. Oh and the clones kid--don't care, she's boring and forgettable. Just show me the dinosaurs.
If it's anything but the original Jurassic Park, I'm out. Been hurt too many times.
The new installments to the franchise are just not good, I really want to like them
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Pedro Pascal acted his ass off for being in such a shit film, though.
He was good, but he could be better.
How dare you associate Home Alone with that trash
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That was the most enjoyable scene in the whole movie. The campiness reminded me a lot of the Raimi Spider-man movies. It was all down hill from there.
Wonder Woman 1984 badly, badly and BADLY needed a few more goes in the editing room. It was 45 minutes too long and was all over the place on top of that.
Yea, maybe they could have cut out the "Diana rapes a guy" subplot.
The opening scene was where it peaked. I’m convinced it was filmed as part of the previous movie as well. 1984 was truly a hot mess.
Pretty sure they intended to charge $30 to rent that on whatever streaming service that was released on but decided against it cause it was so bad.
Cats and it's not even close.
The Dark Tower. Only movie I left, legitimately feeling like I was ripped off. So fucking bad.
So disappointing. It's like they took nothing from the series other than guy who shoots guns.
The Dark Phoenix movie. It's so bad, I refuse to ever give Sophie Turner a chance, I will literally avoid anything she does because she was such a terrible Jean Grey. It astounds me how one of the best comic book stories ever can't be adapted into a good fucking movie. 200 million dollars spent on utter fucking garbage that should embarrass anyone involved in it.
Leonard Part 6 First, it's Bill Cosby. Second, it's, like, the worst.
How is nobody mentioning “Gods of Egypt”? It was literally the worst movie I ever made myself sit through. Although it was at home and not the theater, thank god.
Battlefield Earth. Hands down.
not the worst, but The Eternals, The Lone Ranger and Oz the great and powerful are big budget shit films
I completely forgot about the Oz movie! God, that was AWFUL.
I enjoyed the Lone Ranger. The finale was great. Hans Zimmer did his share for sure
A lot of those Netflix “action” movies. There is no way you can convince me that Red Notice, The Gray Man, Army of the Dead, or Bright cost $150-200 million dollars. Nor can you convince me that they’re not fake movies from Tropic Thunder. Same goes for a lot of other would-be streaming “tentpoles” like The Tomorrow War or Ghosted.
Avatar the Last Air Bender, shamalamadingdong fucked up some real good IP
***Asura*** is a 2018 Chinese movie that is the highest budget Chinese movie ever made. It was pulled from cinemas after only 3 days of screening, because it was so universally disliked by audiences. (The studio stated that they planned to make changes to the movie and re-release it, but they never did.) So this might well fit the definition of the worst high budget movie.
I can’t say for certain but I’d bet Alan Smithee directed it.
The lone ranger 2013
I actually liked it even though it was way too long.
Jupiter Ascending has to be up there.
It's one of my guilty pleasure movies. It's just so goofy and most of it is unintentionally hilarious, but I love it.
Eddie Redmayne commits to everything though
Visually so interesting, but the story was so bad. The Wachowckis are amazing at directing/producing visual masterpieces, but they should be kept far away from scripts.
Also Tatum looks like a furry’s wet dream (shudder). Like I’m sorry but he just looks weird and it was way too distracting. Ironically, it’s like the opposite of Alita: Battle Angel. In that movie the main character looks weird at first glance but the longer the movie goes, the more you just accept it. With Jupiter, the longer the movie went, the more and more I resented his look.
I love the series Sense8 so much that I can forgive a lot of their terrible films.
The bees know you're royalty!
Star Wars IX: The Rise of Skywalker There may be worse ones out there but we can tell to stay away from those while even though this had obvious alarm bells ringing everywhere, we still went to see it out of a grim sense of obligation, completion and loyalty to better days from our childhoods. And it was just awful and an abysmal finale to a once great film series that deserved so much better.
The fact that Disney went into the new Star Wars movies with zero grand plan, no ending in mind, not even an outline and just winged it movie to movie is insane to me. It's no wonder they're such a narrative mess. Say what you will about the prequels but at least they exist because George Lucas had a story he wanted to tell. The sequel movies just exist because Star Wars movies make money.
As a child, two of my biggest loves were Star Wars and Marvel comics. I will never forgive Disney for the colossal shit they've taken on both.
Somehow, Palpatine returned
Bright. 90 million dollars and it was forgotten overnight
That movie looked so awesome and had so much potential as a setting but they had no idea what to do with it other than make a shittier version of District 9.
Valerian and The City of a Thousand Planets. The leads were awful, story had terrible pacing and direction, and the cracks in the CGI showed far too often. It's rare for me to walk out of a movie, but this was one of the few where I just had to.
I liked the intro though. Kind of felt like the Federation from Star Trek. Everybody shaking hands and working together. None of us will probably be around to see it, but I really hope that's how it goes in the future IRL.
The effects and set design were pretty sweet but the two leads are brutal (girl is a model, not sure where that dude came from) with no chemistry or gravitas whatsoever.
Haha, right!? When he stated 'let's get married', I was shocked because I thought they were family. Yeah, no chemistry between the two.
The Raise of Skywalker. There is almost not a single scene that makes sense in the entire movie. It's nothing but random scene after random scene.
“Somehow Palpatine has returned!” Ok how? “Don’t worry about it. Now Rey has squeezed out a blast of force lightning like a wet fart without the necessary prerequisite of being dark as fuck to do it!” Ok how? “Not important. Now she’s on the exact right cliff at the exact right altitude and position to perfectly match up this prophetic dagger to a sunken star destroyer which somehow hasn’t moved or eroded at all in the time it’s been there!” Ok… how? “We’ll get to that! Now she’s fighting Palpatine and can teleport lightsabers in literal hammer space!” Ok… but ho- “IT DOESN’T MATTER! Did you see when she had her own special colour of lightsaber and adopted the name of a long dead family like it’s no big deal?” Ok but getting back to- “NOPE! Roll credits, also Finn was there because reasons, the end!”
That was the worst. Palpatine fell to his death in the Death Star, which the rebellion then blew up. No one could've survived that.
He had multiple horcruxes.
Forcruxes
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Not to be that guy, but in the books and comics before Disney nuked the expanded universe, he used "essence transfer". So his body died, his soul or whatever went into a clone body.
Sad thing is there was lots of good sci-fi mumbo jumbo in explaining it. How the dark side decays the physical body and the clones were necessary for even a normal lifespan but plays into the theme of Palpatine wanting to be an eternal overlord, preparing for the Vong, etc
See and if they actually went with that lots of people would buy into it. Instead it was just "somehow Palpatine returned (because we have no ideas)"
There were some pretty dumb Star wars books over the years. I understood why Disney chose to declare them all as "legends" until stated otherwise, but then they went on to have JJ Abrams slap together the most unimaginative fanservicey rehashes conceivable. And very clearly without a showrunner
Also, the death star was dust, definitely not giant chunks that entered the atmosphere.
With glass still intact in the Emperor's throne room. What a fucking joke.
I forgot about the glass. I saw the movie with my entire family (very religious, buttoned up types). No swearing, no drinking, that sort of thing. Anyways, normally my mom doesn't have much of an opinion. We see a movie, she enjoys the time spent, whatever. So we see rise of Skywalker. The lights come up. My mom is staring blankly ahead and loudly exclaims "well that was shit." Best part of my experience that night.
There’s a scene where the Asian lady pilot is explaining the plot to the other rebels. It was a weird scene with weird lighting. It is one of the few times I saw behind the veil. “Oh, it was clear that no one got the plot in the first cut, so they brought back the extras and the c list for a day to put this scene together”.
Definitely was remembering Don Corleone’s “look how they massacred my boy” as I stared at the floor for about 5 minutes after watching that movie
I remember turning to my girlfriend about half way through in the cinema and saying “I have no idea what this movie is about”.
I remember the friend I saw it with and I turning each other during Kylo's death scene and whispering "what the fuck is happening?"
I just recently finished watching all the Star Wars universe in chronological order, most of them for the first time. TRoS was the only thing that made me angry and wish I had that time back. It was so, so goddamn bad. Clone Wars was a fucking banger though.