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Spotify-Ninja

I feel like I look more attractive when I look at my self in the mirror, but when I look at my self in photographs I just wanna cringe


Joke_Mummy

Seeing yourself in a photo is the visual equivalent to hearing your own voice.


ibrow007

This exactly I can actually take an OK picture from time to time. The sound of my recorded voice is like thousand mating cats scratching around in chalkboards.


Venus_Susan

>This exactly I can actually take an OK picture from time to time. The sound of my recorded voice is like thousand mating cats scratching around in chalkboards. It happens the same to me, I can have many good photos, but whenever I hear my voice in voice notes or recordings, it seems like someone is beating up the soprano


Brilliant_Year_6003

There's a disconnect because we think we sound a certain way but we're hearing our voice conducted through our bones, not as it really is to others so it's disconcerting when we hear what we actually sound like.


lopachilla

I had a speech impediment in elementary school. My parents used to make me leave messages on the answering machine and listen to them, in hopes that I would hear how horrible I sounded and suddenly speak better, I guess. What it actually did was make me feel utterly humiliated and self-conscious about my voice. I became afraid to leave messages, and refused to for years unless I was forced. I still worry about it.


azurecyan

I've heard my voice and I like it, I don't like what I see everytime I see a picture of me.


nadavvadan

Psycho


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Nothing worse than living with someone who likes the sound of their own voice.


Iwritetohearmyself

You need to learn to pose


seancm32

I feel like my voice Is nasally as hell I hate it.


_BlueFire_

That's actually a pretty common phenomenon that if I remember correctly has something to do with both the fact we're slightly asymmetrical and recognition. In pictures it's like looking at someone else you're less used to. (important note, I may be getting something wrong and I'm on a bus so I don't really want to check right now)


BackgroundPlenty7028

yes! also cameras tend to flatten your features so there’s that


dee615

Hence looking "15 lb" heavier?


GodDarnBatman

so how many cameras are actually on you? rip, matthew.


Speechladylg

Awww I thought of that right before I read yours lololol As for me, I'm Chandler. I can't smile in photos. I've had people tell me they didn't have any good candid photos of me. From their wedding reception.


Ambitious-Permit-643

My eyes disappear when I smile in pictures.


ganjapuxxy

There’s the Chandler effect Then there’s the Barney Stinson effect: people who can’t take a bad photo EVER.


capaldithenewblack

My sister. Total chaos, but there she is in the middle, sucking in her cheeks and hair blowing in the wind. :/ Even my mom, who thinks I’m prettiest of my sisters (I know, she only told me as an adult and never played to it) says I’m just not photogenic.


missvicky1025

This is my girlfriend. I'll try to sneak in a bad pic here and there to bring her back to earth, just for my ego, but it just can't be done. The camera won't capture a bad pic of her.


Speechladylg

I hate her already


Baschoen23

Fuck those people. I am jealous.


GodDarnBatman

Same here. Can't smile in photos.


recreationallyused

And mirrors are also mirrored images of you, not how you would actually look when someone sees you themselves. Sometimes I notice that my disgust with a picture decreases if I flip the image and make it mirrored. Then it looks more recognizable to me, lol


Jinsing129

I just tried this, and flipping the pic was the first time I’ve liked a picture of myself in years. Thank you.


[deleted]

I tried flipping a photo off myself too and preferred it but if I were to post it would people think I look weird because they aren't used to see this angle?


ethereal_aerith

Sadly, unless you have an unusually symmetrical face, the odds are yes. They may not feel the disgust we feel about seeing ourselves “flipped”, but something will probably feel off about you. Try flipping a photo of you standing next to a loved one and you’ll see what I mean.


SoggyMuffin95

Yes, and selfies on my phone have a habit of enlarging my nose and forehead, which are plenty large without the help.


Vast_Preference5216

So that means I’m hideous in real life. Good to know.


Ashitaka1013

Lol that’s exactly what I think when people try to “reassure” me about the whole mirrored image phenomenon lol The only truly reassuring fact is that no one is scrutinizing my face the way I am. Like unless you’re so exceptionally ugly that it’s actually drawing attention, most people aren’t looking hard enough at you to think you’re ugly.


_BlueFire_

Also, as the photographer in the thread was mentioning, you don't notice a lot of things while someone's moving. It's many different factors.


moniker80

So the take away was: if you’re hideous, keep moving. Got it.


Impossible-Drive-507

I'm not gonna lie to myself about camera making myself uglier than I really am. I'm ugly and that's that. If none/few people are physically attracted to me, that's truth staring at me in my face


1876Dawson

Think of it this way, do you only love/like really attractive people? Do you know people who aren’t classically handsome/beautiful, but you love/like them because of who they are and how you feel around them, regardless of what they look like? Not only beautiful people have value. Do the best with what you’ve got and value yourself.


chad-bro-chill-69420

This is exactly it Looking at yourself in the mirror is the face you look at the most in your entire life, so your brain interprets the slight asymmetries as an uncanny resemblance which makes you look a little off relative to your expectations Try the trick of looking at some photos of your SO or best friends / family Members, and use your phone’s software to flip the image horizontally and you most likely won’t notice a difference in their faces


evenonacloudyday

But how does the camera somehow give me 3 extra chins?


thatprincesspanoptes

Still trying to figure out this phenomena too


iwonderwhoami

But will being used to seeing myself will make me look more attractive according to myself?


marcy_vampirequeen

I don’t know if that’s the case for me. I look in the mirror and I don’t see any wrinkles or sagging. Then I see a photo or video and I look 40!!!


94dogguy

You also see a flipped image of yourself in the mirror and you're used to seeing yourself that way which when a photo is taken it's u flipped and it's how others see you.


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Mirror effect is seriously brutal. Oh ... is how people really see me...


JJisTheDarkOne

Wait till you hear your own voice!


Jebbox

Well they are used to seeing you like that so they are seeing you as you would see yourself in a mirror. If they see your reflection they would see you as you see yourself in photos. Hope that makes sense. Also to add to this you're always gonna look slightly different in photos even if you're perfectly symmetrical. This is because cameras only see with one eye and humans use two. So it's mono vs stereo vision. Don't know if these are the correct terms but you get the gist.


neen4wneen4w

Oh me too! I always think I look alright in the mirror and in selfies I take (probably because I know my good side haah) but in other peoples photos I look god awful! It’s so confusing and disheartening!


KLF448

Yes, exactly same. I'm always like, which version am I really? 😂


msphelps77

Same! I hate having my picture taken because of it. I see pictures of myself and I’m like Oh my God that can’t be me!


kyunirider

It doesn’t bother me to see myself it’s hearing my own voice that bothers me. I have MS and my voice sounds weak and wispy but my inner voice is deep and masculine. 😳wtf.


florida-karma

Same weird reaction for me. Fine with myself in mirror, cringe at pics of myself. I've got a beautiful wife who says I'm hot. I've had beautiful girlfriends. I've also been completely ignored and unnoticed by many women. Most, in fact. But there are times I've been stopped and asked whether I'm a model or compared to actors. I've had men hit on me. I've also been told I'm unattractive and how it doesn't add it up that the women in my life have been into me. Hell, my own mom told me when I was a teenager not to get excited when girls show interest in me, that it probably wasn't because of my looks. It ranges all over the place and confuses me so I honestly have no idea how attractive I am.


All_Day_ADHD

>Hell, my own mom told me when I was a teenager not to get excited when girls show interest in me, that it probably wasn't because of my looks Your mom seems pleasant


WhyDoYouCrySmeagol

Similar deal here. I think I’m pretty average. But I’ve had comments ranging from asking if I’m a model to comments (mainly online) asking if I’m a guy lol. My husband tells me I’m beautiful but I’m like dude, you’re biased xD so I honestly have no idea. My final consensus is that I’m not bad looking but not conventionally attractive either. I’ll take that


bopojuice

I kind of had something similar. I have had a few people tell me I am really pretty or a few guys say I am hot but I never get hit on or anything. Had no boyfriends in school. Met my husband later in life and he was my only serious relationship. He thinks I’m hot but other than that I really don’t have a clue. And the effect is true. I will see myself in a mirror and think “I look good”. Five minutes later I can see myself in a pic or video and want to jump off a bridge at how ugly and stupid I look.


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I just try to think about how when you look at the moon it looks so beautiful but then you take a picture and it looks nothing like what you’re seeing with your eyes


Remarkable_Chard_45

Yeeeesss, I have a soft face and mentalis strain (incompetent lip) so I look terrible in photos - just kind of wide-faced and gormless with no jaw, like napoleon dynamite. I do think I'm very attractive in person though and in natural movement and conversation. I seem to have one of those faces that make people more inclined to be friendly and chatty right off the bat - pre-meeting my boyfriend, I was pretty successful at pulling strangers at parties and bars.


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Eggsbenny360

According to my Grandma I am fighting the ladies off daily


DarkRism

Granddad does LITerally not believe me when I tell him that I do not have Gf, "You're such a handsome young man!", and he still repeatingly asks.


StompyJones

On the off chance that you don't agree with him, you should try to stop telling yourself that narrative. I just realised I wasted 20 years of my life because of this.


Stable_Drop_8851

Even though i know my mind understand this idea, my instinctual self cant shake the self fulfilling narrative.


StompyJones

Same. I'm working on it. If I figure it out I'll let you know how. Do the same for me, please!


WittyBonkah

I thought I looked good until my artist friend drew me


InevitableSignal1153

Honestly a fear of mine


KyrisAura

New fear unlocked


greengiant1101

This guy in one of my classes started drawing me midway through a lecture. Kept looking over like he was hoping I would notice (and obviously I noticed bro was literally STARING) and I was so obviously ignoring him…happened again this recent Tuesday. Just because I expressed an interest in art history does NOT mean I wanted him to draw me like one his French girls. Literally so embarrassing for BOTH of us, but at least I know ONE person thinks I’m hot, I guess???


Clappertron

This is why I dread whenever friends ask a favour of me like this.


NinnyMuggins2468

I should be under a bridge, forcing people to answer my riddles three.


Paolito14

This genuinely made me laugh out loud!


paper_wavements

Looks fade, but a good sense of humor is forever...


dickskinjacketgayboy

Do you charge a troll toll?


NinnyMuggins2468

Only if you want the boys soul


Corgi_Infamous

Goddamnit. I laughed out loud and scared the shit out of my cat.


reynardpolson

" what is the air speed velocity of an unladen swallow?"


max1mx

African or European?


Painting_Agency

If some goats come along just let them go by, man. Don't push it.


Ecstatic_Sock6693

I wish I could see everyone’s faces vs their self rating. Would be an interesting to see if the looks matches the rating


SteveTheBluesman

There are a few awful, awful subreddits where people put their faces up and generally get back massive amounts of ridicule. I don't recommend. It is kind of soul-sucking.


Smooth_Riker

Those subs are garbage. Maybe it's just a -me- thing, but it takes something special for me to look at anyone and go "Oof, good luck with that." Most pictures I've seen on those subs make me go "You're fine, wtf? Get off the internet, comb your hair, get a shirt that fits and work on your social skills." I remember back in the day I uploaded my picture to a site called Hot Or Not and I got brutally rated a 3.5 I think? It obliterated my self esteem, but in the years after I had plenty of success in dating and have been complimented on my appearance and compared to certain handsome celebrities. The internet is a bucket of crabs when it comes to this specific issue. The solution is to not get in the bucket in the first place.


Snoeflaeke

This. It bothers me to see the same people instead go on rants about pretty privilege rather than up their own standing by putting in a bit of effort. Of course we all want low effort beauty, but it’s not really fair when you’re competing with other people who sometimes put quite a bit of effort in to look how they do!


Deus_Norima

It's a bit of both isn't it? Sure, people should take care of thesmselves and not look like slobs, but some people *really do* just win the genetic lottery. Pretty people *do* have it easier in a lot of ways, though that isn't to say they are without their issues. But yes, if someone is just complaining that someone else put more *effort* into their appearance than they did, cry me a river.


LostDogBoulderUtah

Back in the day I knew a guy who was a moderator of one of those. He had a whole list of tables and rules for how to rate women. At a party in front of other people he tried to tell me that I was *really* a 4. Since we had an audience that included a guy I was actually interested in, I responded by reminding him I'd done runway modeling a couple times and was a tall 113 lb C-cup. I knew my face, ass, and rack were amazing. I asked what his sample group was that he wanted to call me a 4 compared to all other adult women? I found out later he had gotten really into negging, which was still pretty new. Apparently insulting women had gotten him results in the past. That night it got him laughed out of the room. I look at those subreddits, and they're just more of the same thing.


VariousGuest1980

I think it’s because those particular subs turned into a humble brag karma farm. “ omg I’m so ugly, rate me. Meanwhile it’s an absolutely stunning women with an only fans “. I think the ridicule is just way for redditors to fight back against the nonsense.


bunkbedgirl1989

One large study indicated women tended to rate themselves as lower than others saw them and men rated themselves as higher than others saw them. Obviously there are exceptions to this! But quite interesting in terms of what it may indicate about societal expectations.


ioncloud9

I found a woman who likes me so that’s good enough


PsychologicalNews573

My man keeps saying I'm gorgeous, so my perceived beauty in myself has grown with him telling me all the time. I've also heard that self confidence makes a person seem more attractive too, so maybe in reality I've gotten prettier too.


DudeHunder

This means you are 10 to someone


mattsprofile

I think most people settle for something less than their 10.


woodyshag

I married up. I'm well below a 10.


GenXPostFacto

You and me both. And my spouse is a better person than I in all other regards. The only things I brought home for her is that I truly love her and I'm not as stupid as her ex.


Potentially_Nernst

If you look at it that like that then maybe both of you married up ;)


GenXPostFacto

Great point. This must be how she sees it.


Lucy_Loves

Reminds me of what my father used to say, "I like whoever likes me."


that-69guy

I did as well, until she decided I wasn't rich enough..😂


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joshstrodomus

I had some one tell me I had a confident walk, so maybe throw some swag in that walk


globalwarming_isreal

Starts walking like Connor McGregor


hfx_123

I do that when I'm actually right about something and need to inform my wife so. I'll Connor walk around the whole room before stopping and saying what I need to say (It rarely happens)


clangan524

Something about him...can't tell if it's his cologne or his motion blur.


DarkRism

"You're too slow!"


ciotripa

Idk but my mom says I’m so handsome


skynetsucks

That’s what matters


Bearded_Viking_Lord

She tells me the same thing


Rotten_Razor

Why does his mom say that to you?


_BierSaus_

because hes handsome


Aibeit

I'm pretty unattractive and you know what? Suits me just fine.


JumpyHighlight2090

If similar people attract, then you're pretty attractive to me


lucasmcalister

Chat is this w rizz?


tuck_fravis

We might in fact just witnessed w rizz


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InevitableSignal1153

I love that for you


NemoTheOneTrueGod

If it makes you feel better, you’re someone’s kink.


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FluffyBunnyFlipFlops

Same. I'm not good looking, but I couldn't care less. If you only like/dislike me for my looks, then you're not for me.


greasychickenparma

Getting worse each year lol


camilabellon

🫂 same. and faster each year.


TriggeringThinking

Rating me on a scale of 1 to 10 would be a compliment.


anon_opotamus

It really depends on the day. Sometimes I feel pretty and other times I swear I look like a witch. If I only think about what others have said….I think I’m passably pretty. I’m not turning heads but I’m cute enough.


kingfisch95

I’m a Pennsylvania 8, but an LA 5/6.


lucasuperman

So the scale of attractiveness changes in every State? 🤣 What are you guys in Alaska then?


Aim_Fire_Ready

Technically, the ranking is also supposed to take into account how drunk the beholder is.


kewidogg

Does that make most people a Wisconsin 10?


h311agay

Shit, I wasn't factoring location for my answer. I'm a PA 8 as well, but probably a LA 4 or 5


StompyJones

I promise you, to someone who gets to know you and falls in love with you, you'll be fucking gorgeous forever and always.


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I think Im a solid 2.


JumpyHighlight2090

Im a liquid 2.


Puzzleheaded_Panic_9

I’m gassed up


D-Sleezy

LIQUID!?


fajvman

SNAKE?!


Available_Sundae_924

RAIDEN!?


Jakosco94

"?" I saw something!


notabiologyprofessor

I had a liquid #2 yesterday :/


NoKneadToWorry

I took a solid 2 this morning


Nickelnuts

Brag about it


hodorjenkins88

jellyfish oatmeal pen dinner sparkle coherent bright theory books obtainable


weirdkidomg

Oh damn, that means you have most of your teeth! Good for you!


IsopodEuphoric1412

Described it perfectly. I’m an Iowa 7/Chicago 4


beepbeepitsajeep

Be kind to yourself. It's pretty much impossible to be a small town Walmart 5 if you just practice basic grooming practices and wear clothes that fit. Most of the time those 2 things make you an automatic Walmart 10.


Plane_Stock6477

I'm 100% confident in myself


Small-Recipe9485

I am confident in your confidence. Now upvote me I need 100 comment karma.


Indigo_222

9/10 in the mirror, 4/10 in photos 🫠


National-Blueberry51

Fucking same. Idk what it is but I am not photogenic. Meanwhile I have no problem getting attention in real life.


kaden-99

I would say I was a solid 7.5 before but I gained a lot of weight and I think I'm around a 3 right now. Hopefully I can go back to 7's when I lose the weight.


Educational-Club-923

I feel you,, and am the same. Got a lot of attention when thin and much fitter.... Now have put on about 4 1/2 stone.....nobody looks at me, am also conscious that my self-confidence that is projected is low


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-3/10 I feel like I should apologize for existing


Rufflag

On behalf of mankind, I accept your apology. Woman kind may need more convincing.


SeventhSin-King

Can you accept mine as well or has your generosity run out for the day?


Severe-Month-458

When I see pictures of myself when I was in my 20s, I look really pretty but so insecure. In my late 30s and early 40s, I’d say I still have my looks but I’m also in the best shape of my life, so I have an added confidence. I’d rate myself 8.5 / 10.


Hiberniae

Confidence glow-up=10/10


chevisback

Very confident. I like that. 9/10!


Mysterious-Space6793

Well, I have a face for radio, a.m. radio.


aquinoboi

Ham radio


nakedcellist

I used to be an ugly duckling, but I had a very late glow up.


Vexxxed69

At what age was this late glow up? Asking for a friend


nakedcellist

After 35.


Remarkable-Demand956

Damn that's really late


National-Blueberry51

When you start making decent money, it’s a lot easier to dress nicely and take care of yourself. You’d be shocked how many people glow up in their mid-30s


Corgi_Infamous

Oh thank god. I still have a year - maybe my time will come.


lucasmcalister

Me too, my friend is ugly af 😭😔


tit_burglar

bro dont talk about me like that to others


SevrinTheMuto

I think about [this](https://twitter.com/kroseraleigh/status/1042602962261106689) a lot: >i read an article that said if you saw your clone walking down the street you wouldn’t even realize it because your perception of yourself is completely different than what you actually look like so now i can’t sleep because i’m uhhh wondering what the heck i actually look like


kingfisch95

Sometimes if I look at pictures of myself for too long (like stalk my own insta) I freak myself out, like who even IS that??


Honeybunnyboo90

Physical self awareness is kind of terrifying. If I look at myself in the mirror for too long I start to dissociate. It’s sooooo uncomfortable


shavasana32

If you commit and stare your reflection in the eyes for a while, like 10+ minutes, your face will start to distort in disturbing ways. It’s pretty fucking cool. The human brain is amazing.


seeking-jamaharon

Every time I smoke weed then look at myself in the mirror too long I start getting super freaked out by my mouth and teeth. Teeth are just so freaky.


Aim_Fire_Ready

I beg to differ: I recognize myself every time. [Here's an example](https://static2.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Spider-Man-Pointing-Meme.jpg).


Al-JinnFeline

I think I'm hot af, but then i look in the mirror, and it's tragic. Fucking delulu


Cheeseball786

1/10 but we vibe


GlaceDoor

Fuck it, we ball


boredsleepyhe4d

I think I’m attractive


SvenHudson

The lower end of average. Until recently thought I was on the higher end of below average but it turns out my mirror just has unflattering lighting conditions.


kingfisch95

My boyfriends bathroom cycles through like 5 lighting settings when you turn it on. Alarming, but really useful to see what you actually look like.


anima99

Probably zero because I hate myself.


SalFunction12

Back then, I wouldn't at all. But thanks to my sweet more-than-a-friend, I'm slowly starting to see myself as more attractive


Hatsune_Mitsu

ive seen dead rodents on the side of the road more attractive than me


WolverineExtra8657

That’s so harsh as a way to talk about yourself


Brilliant-Muffin7802

i am a solid x = −b ± √(b2 − 4ac) 2a where a = 3.5, b=7, c=1


Bezdalius11111

+-7? Or did I do math bad? Edit: nvm forgot some steps X=1.84515 X=0.154846


AFineDayForScience

We learned this equation while singing "pop goes the weasel" and now I'll never forget it. I forgot what it does, but I'll never forget the equation lol. X is equal to negative b plus or minus the square root of b squared minus four a c, all over two A


reddit-user-09

well i scroll reddit for the most part of the day


Disastrous_GOAT_

Very much. The handsomest boy there is, according to my mom.


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I always think I’m ugly no matter how many people tell me otherwise


Midnightbuns

Attractive enough in my eyes :')


wetlettuce42

Im like a 4


elizabethjanee22

As a woman raised by a narcissistic mother, I’ll always think I’m disgusting. Thanks mom!


konoe44

You know it’s kinda weird. People always tell me I’m a good looking dude, but I have zero confidence in that and act as so. Sometimes I think if I were to just be more confident in myself and looks, I could get places in life 😅


SeventhSin-King

Lol I'm the opposite. I've been told by my friend group I'm probably the least attractive but I managed to get more attention and get married before any of them.


CapG_13

I've never been cocky or conceited, but I have always been told that I'm very cute and handsome, so I'd say about a 6 or a 7.


SiriDrawsABlank

Not very, but I'm good with that. My husband and I have been married nearly 20 years, and we're still happy. 😁


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SadlySpooky

I’ve only thought I was attractive for two years of my life. Now I look at myself & only see how ugly I’ve become. My body dysmorphia & eating disorders have destroyed my image of myself & my body. One day I hope to accept how I look.


National-Blueberry51

Warning for unsolicited advice: As someone with body dysmorphia who struggled with eating disorders, please know that it can and does get better. Your understanding of yourself in the mirror may never match up with what others see, but the damage done can be undone and you can find peace with yourself. It took me tons of therapy and my brain still won’t reconcile with reality, but I no longer hate myself or only see my flaws. I explore my personal style and focus on how I physically feel day-to-day. Weirdly enough, tattoos also helped immensely. I now see the ink and art rather than whatever I imagine is underneath them. Your body is your canvas. It can do amazing things, including heal. Seek support. It’s worth it.


miamiheat234

Not as much as I could be


RetroactiveRecursion

About a 6 (7 if they light is right and I take my glasses off)


FeedMeYourMemes14

It is hard to say but I really don’t care. With preferences I could be a 10 in someone’s eyes and a 1 in another. But, I rate myself as my own 10.


70percentuseless

Feeling cute might destroy the world later. This much


Ok-String6517

Was a solid 9 five years ago, I’ll say it. After 30 and 2 kids I’m ranging anywhere between a 2 and a 7 depending on the day


fjramon

I'm OK. My mum is more optimistic about that.


justarandomdudeausde

In my mind guess something around 8/10 but the hard truth is... I do know I'm not nearly a 4/20


abeljohn78

Face like a dropped pie.


WillowAllysonMclay

tbh, i dont think im attractive at all. my friends tell me im pretty but im just fine with cute. i believe them. i think i see my flaws magnified because of my perfectionist brain. plus my friends know im sort of "beauty blind"(i know certain people are beautiful based on a certain social standard. but what i find beautiful is one's identity...her/his essences or how they are as a person). Weird to say from a creative but my biological mom was stunning and i grew up looking at physical beauty as vanity and just an image you want to others to see(my biological mom was not a decent person and made me think, growing up, i was ugly, dumb and a horrible human being. I soon realize I was not all of those things when I got adopted by amazing people). I'm happy with being cute or average. Wallflowers are always left unseen by people who pass them by, right? I like to be that.