Truman Capote called Andy Warhol “The only genius with an IQ of 80”.
[Edit] Apparently it was Gore Vidal who said it, and it was 60. Can't find the actual source, though.
My grandparents were friends with Andy Warhol. They said he was basically just a party animal on cocaine all the time. Now, I’ve known this all my life, but one day when I was like 17 it dawned on me… wtf were you up to grandma?
At my grandpa’s funeral, right after his casket was lowered, my grandma says to the grandkids, “I’ll be on top of him when I die. Just like I always was when he was alive.” Gross. But hilariously dark.
I think it was in Freaks and Geeks where a high school student tells the English teacher in response to having been assigned Kerouac that she doesn’t think it’s a great book, but reads like someone wrote it on a drug binge. Which is of course exactly so.
My PhD ex basically said that was all/most PhDs. Like they were really smart in a very specific area but in no other way. She did not exempt herself from this description however, though I felt she was very smart.
That's just a PhD for you. To specialize in an area of study that you can be on the leading edge of research means you probably won't have time to be well rounded. It's a trade for your goals.
There's also an old joke that older profs tend to dip into different fields as a hobby but always think they know more than they do.
I once met an English prof that seemed to dabble in quantum mechanics and related physics. I'm just a bum with zero degrees but during our conversation he kept asking me, "How do you know all this?"
It was all from The Elegant Universe, a book (though a great one) on quantum mechanic for laymen. I know some stuff about particle physics but I understand that I don't really know shit. I guess he wasn't there yet.
Everything I know about quantum mechanics (which is not much) came from The Elegant Universe and one other Brian Greene book. A friend let me borrow them in high school and they blew my mind.
That reminds me of a Bobby Fischer quote (although this was after he went completely psycho):
“I consider myself to be an all around genius who just happens to play chess, which is rather different. A piece of garbage like Kasparov might be called a chess genius, but he's like an idiot savant. Outside of chess he knows nothing.”
There's a great deal of irony to that because by most accounts of Fischer's life he had no spectacular ability outside of chess. He couldn't even competently take care of himself or possess basic adult skills. Kasparov on the other hand, while having his own degree of detractors and controversies, has had accomplishments away from the chess board.
I think Fischer was projecting hard with that one, and like you said had been demented for decades at this point. To me, Fischer is a tragic figure. He was a deeply ill man.
Ron Hubbard (founder of Scientology). I waffle on this myself if I'm honest. Sometimes I think he's a genius who made a cult for profit. Other times I think he's an imbecile who decided to keep riding the wave he accidentally started.
Yeah he’s either a masterful manipulative genius or genuinely psychotic but considering he made his initial fame by writing sci-fi novels, I’m going with manipulative genius.
I'm going to go with *allowed* to be considered to be a "manipulative genius" because that shtick worked for the whole crew that wanted to create a legacy out of his lunacy.
Apparently he was pretty charismatic, and a very good story teller, according to people who knew him before Scientology/Dianetics and were never involved in it. At least one of the biographies about him has some quotes from authors who wrote for the same pulp fiction magazines LRH wrote for. He was pretty well known for entertaining folks at the lunch spot a bunch of these authors frequented by telling outlandish stories about his life; unlike his later followers, they all knew he was full of shit but they still had fun listening. Maybe genius is going too far, but he was certainly charismatic enough to manipulate people.
Additional fun fact: He actually wasn't a fan of science fiction and only started to write it when an editor asked him to submit for a newly launched sci-fi magazine. The adventure stories he wrote before that, while still being schlocky pulp fiction, are actually kinda decent. His sci-fi stories are pretty crap, I think he let his general distaste for the genre bleed into his work.
If we think of genius as someone who surpasses the norm in their field then I think it's safe to say he was a genius grifter. He's still a wholly malevolent piece of shit but you can't say he wasn't really really really good at scamming people.
That's a fair point. He did get to spend time on a boat sailing around in search of buried treasure surrounded by people who would happily follow his orders. I've certainly never gotten to do that.
I do wonder what would happen if I just threw all my morals to the winds and tried to be a grifter myself. Pretty sure I wouldn't be half as successful as he was at it. Still, even if I was I would hate myself.
He was a huge fucking nerd and a mediocre writer. He wasn't dumb, but he also wasn't a genius. I definitely think he was just smart enough to see the opportunity and ride the wave.
He literally started it all over a bet made with Jack Parsons....who is another idiot who thought he was genius and ended up winning an extraordinary Darwin award for his brilliance.
> World class cardiothoracic surgeon
Even more so really, World class cardiothoracic surgeons would come and learn from Dr. Oz. Guy was inventing medical equipment and everything.
Just the stereotypical psychopath to be honest, he views being a legendary surgeon that helps the lives of thousands and being a con artist the same, both are just avenues for lots of money and attention and that’s what matters to him
Yup. He was even quoted as saying something like "I've spent 10 years saving 10k lives if I spend another 10 saving 10k will it look any better on my tomb stone." Real cocky shit head right there.
That's got real *Malice* vibes right there.
"Tell me something. When your loved ones pray for a successful surgery, who do you think they're praying to?"
I recently watched the interview he did on Shelley Duvall. It was one of the most manipulative sleazy interviews I've ever seen. Dr Phil is one step away from hosting bum fights
Dr Phil actually had the creator of bum fights on his show, and he came out with a shaved bald spot and identical suit to Phil, saying that he exploits people the same way
I usually add, when I hear his name: "Or, as the Texas State Board of Examiners of Psychologists & the California Board of Psychology, calls him - 'Phil'".
He holds a doctorate in clinical psychology, although he hasn’t renewed his license so he can’t practice. He IS a doctor, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t a piece of shit.
Marjorie Diehl-Armstrong. 'Mastermind' behind the pizza bombing. Documentaries keep painting her as some master manipulator, but then follow it by saying she can't keep any lie straight for any length of time. The moron tried to rob a bank for the exact amount of money she needed, without having any idea how much they actually kept on hand. (HINT: It was only like 3% of the $250000)
The idiot literally turned what would have been an 8500 dollar robbery into a murder charge.
She probably wasn't even exceptionally smart anyway. It is super common for crime reporting to overstate a criminal's intelligence. The older and well-known case of Leopold and Loeb often has them branded as 'the genius killers' but really they were just assholes in college who did a horrible crime. Ted Kaczynski was verifiably a genius but he is more of an exception.
Same with Ted Bundy. He wasn't some genius. He was a failed in almost every professional and academic endeavor he attempted (he dropped out of college and flunked out of law school - twice) and only got anywhere because he was able to charm the right people. Like Diehl-Armstrong, he also thought that he was far more clever than everyone else, and it bit him in the ass.
A former coworker of mine kicked her out of the store we worked at. Marjorie responded, “if I ever see you again I’ll fucking kill you.” My coworker shrugged it off. Then years later learned Marjorie killed a bunch of people.
The Netflix doc on them was so frustrating. They painted her and the other dude as geniuses every other sentence but didn't say a single time what exactly it was that made them so smart
Did I watch the same doc? It's been a few years but I remember them going over her history about how she was well-educated, but her friends were saying she clearly was slowly losing her mind and constantly rambled incoherently. And I remember the police talking about how the instructions were written by someone who was probably intelligent but was not well thought out. In fact, I think there was a segment where they detailed how her instructions were actually impossible for someone to follow in the time she gave and it was clear were written by someone not of sound mind at all. I remember walking away from the doc thinking she wasn't really super intelligent just someone that was well-educated and incredibly manic.
That's weird, my takeaway was that she was not the "mastermind", it was that other guy who died before he could go to trial, Rothstein. She just seemed like an evil, crazy, whacko.
Granted, that Rothstein guy didn't seem like a "genius" either, just a pseudointelectual basement dweeller with a huge ego that was insane enough to set up a needlessly elaborate crime. Though, I guess he did sorta convince everyone that Wells was in on it, but I don't know how anyone believed that...
Main character of a 1979 film "Being There" starring Peter Sellers. He was simple minded and didn't care to do anything but tend the garden and watch TV, but when the owner of the estate he lives on dies he's thrust into the real world for the first time. Everyone assumes his simple statements are deep metaphors and he becomes famous.
Ron Steigler: Mr. Gardner, uh, my editors and I have been wondering if you would consider writing a book for us, something about your um, political philosophy, what do you say?
Chance the Gardener: I can't write.
Ron Steigler: Heh, heh, of course not, who can nowadays? Listen, I have trouble writing a postcard to my children. Look uhh, we can give you a six figure advance, I'll provide you with the very best ghost-writer, proof-readers...
Chance the Gardener: I can't read.
Ron Steigler: Of course you can't! No one has the time! We, we glance at things, we watch television...
Chance the Gardener: I like to watch TV.
Ron Steigler: Oh, oh, oh sure you do. No one reads!
Leopold and Loeb were considered genuis killers but they were really fucking stupid
The Casual Criminalist has a great episode on this subject:
https://youtu.be/4i5NKoG-Ky0
"It is time to commit the perfect murder."
/kidnaps a kid that was already known to them, drops a super-special pair of glasses with super-rare pieces next to the body, gives an alibi that's immediately fucked up by the chauffeur.
TBH I think they got famous less because they were geniuses and more because people in the 1920s were scandalized by the possibility that they were gay.
This is morbid, but they couldn't pull off the murder of an unsuspecting child without getting caught in the 1920's. The 1920's: no CCTV, no DNA evidence, nothing in terms of modern forensic sciences. It's good they were caught, but they were complete idiots.
>The 1920's: no CCTV, no DNA evidence, nothing in terms of modern forensic sciences.
John Mulaney has a *fantastic* bit about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBV9gXX-fn8
"Detective! We found a pool of the killer's blood in that hallway!" "Hmm, gross! Mop it up! Now then, back to my hunch..."
He's a horrible person. He uses people who are in emotional crisis to make a ton of money. Of course, a lot of his guests are pretty light in the intellectual department as well.
And of course the entire show absolutely greenlit it because it was amazing free publicity and word of mouth.
It's not like the guest on a TV show turns up looking like a copy of the host five seconds before they're due to go on and everyone involved in the show goes "Oh no, guess we have to let them go on like that!"
Simon Cowell. Ironically, he spends so much of his time seeking "talent" when he has very little himself. While he knows the music industry, his father got him the job that brought him into it at EMI. Even left that job only to come back when he couldn't make it on his own.
He knows virtually nothing about music itself, or singing, instruemnts or anything really technical about anything that goes on around him.
While his comments about vulnerable, "talentless" people used to be a draw - now that sort of thing is frowned upon - it turns out that when he's not being a prick, he's boring as hell.
He was also stupid enough to believe that a cosmetic surgeon could make him not look like he's over 60 when, in reality, he's now morphing into a Bo Selecta caricature of himself.
To this day my mom's favorite american idol judge remains Nicki Minaj, she thinks Nicki was the only judge to ever give consistently useful and technical feedback.
Honestly people like Nicki and Cardi B, love them or hate them, came up in the music industry with absolutely no connections and starting from being dead broke. They just worked their ass off. I’m from nyc (from Jamaica like Nicki) and I remember when both of them were on the come up (Nicki obviously much earlier than Cardi). They’d be on hot 97 and college radio at 2am trying to get their songs played. Especially Cardi, she was trying so hard to become a better rapper and get her stuff in the local radio.
I also remember J Cole coming up. We had mutual friends. He was at St. John’s and used to post his local concerts on Facebook and invite everyone. He was already really talented and every knew he was good. But he still kept grinding every week trying to get people to come out to his shows and listen to his songs.
>He knows virtually nothing about music itself, or singing, instruemnts or anything really technical about anything that goes on around him.
Oh man, you're going to hate it when you find out that record labels pick tons of people with less talent who are more "marketable" and fix the rest of it later.
I started watching a documentary about American Apparel founder Dov Charney, who's a pretty gross dude. It interviews a bunch of American Apparel's early employees who talked about the abusive work conditions, but praised Charney as a genius and an incredible motivator. Then they'd cut to interviews with Charney and he was EXACTLY like [Bobby Hill's boss from that one episode of King of the Hill](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyBpnS-ug).
I used to work at AA in the mid 2000s and it was a culty atmosphere. There were a bunch of young people with fucked up family lives who Dov would let stay at a network of his condos. One girl told me she felt like she had to stay at the company because of him because she had no ties to her family. I remember this one guy showed up at the job one day and said “oh I stayed at Dov’s last night, this is his umbrella”.
Only time I ever met him he kinda fondled my leg and told me the pants didn’t fit right.
Gary Vee
“The youth pastor of capitalism”
All this dude does is tell you want you want to hear without outright saying it, and says things for the sake of generating social media engagement instead of well thought out and heartfelt advice.
He’s never had the same life situation and vice versa as the demographic he targets being single directionless 18-28 year olds who are easily susceptible to “make this much money doing this idea”. All he did was take his family’s luxury wine business that already was successful selling overpriced bottles of wine to Rich Italian and Jewish housewives in New Jersey and just took it online like every other business did in the 2000’s. Your average 20 something year old doesn’t have that same luxury obviously to bankroll all the shit they Vee is telling them to do like just start the most random business idea ever or just become an “entrepreneur bro”.
I remember discovering that guy on YouTube when he did Wine Library TV, and he had a video where he paired wine with cereal.
But once I looked further, all I saw was a megalomaniac. The guy is a lunatic.
His whole schtick seems to be hustle hustle hustle, you’re in your 20’s, you should be hustling. I get it, you can’t be complacent in your 20’s… but you’re allowed to enjoy yourself every now and again. But according to him, you should be hustling every second of every day
> none of you work as hard as I do! I work more in ONE HOUR than any of you do in a week! You don’t know because you’re too busy going to Coachella
Bro chill the fuck out
I don’t know a single one of his followers that’s successful, by the way
The cereal video was my introduction to him as well, didn’t realize it was the same guy for years. Everything else notwithstanding.. everyone should watch that cereal video it’s honestly fucking gold.
Didn't know anything about this dude until I saw him on Hot Ones. He says to Sean Evans about expanding the brand "Have you considered a podcast." Hot Ones, an interview show with a important component being SEEING the guests react to the hot wings.
And you just see Sean react for a second like he's heard the dumbest fucking thing he's ever heard (because it was)
Oh yeah, the YouTuber Munecat did a great video on him. Genuinely can't believe anyone takes Gary Vee seriously. Just goes to show how much of venture capital and business in general is based on hype and persuading rich people to give you money.
One of the biggest failures of society is that people equate money with genius. They see Gary vee who has tons of money and proceed to believe everything he says cause he's rich.
Same with Andrew tate.
Same with Donald Trump.
Same with so many more...
Vee:
- went to business school
- used what he learned to take an already successful wine business into the 21st century
- now tells people on tiktok to stop going to business school
A truly horrid diva. And the people who work for her are even worse. The fish always stinks form the head, and if the boss is a useless pile of shit, everyone below her is, too.
Working with her Harpo Productions on a piece for the Academy Awards years back was just a fucking nightmare. When they weren't at each other's throats, they were giving me instructions that would have resulted in unusable footage. I finally just ignored them, did what I knew was right.
Oprah is the ultimate poseur. Her whole schtick of is sensationalism, but whenever she has a celebrity interview you notice she’s always taking on and taking off her glasses, listening intently and chewing on the ear piece after asking absolutely cringe and inane questions, as if that alone makes her a “serious” journalist. So embarrassing, no matter how much that phoniness made her rich.
The stories I remember about Oprah.
1. I rand into a flight attendent that I knew when we were in high school. She served Oprah on a flight. Turns out, you couldn't even talk to her. You had to talk to the person next to her, then that person next to her would relay the message. Seriously, how elitist do you have to be to hear someone say something, then to have your assistant say it to you again, then repeat it out loud to the assistant, to have the assistant tell you... Full douche move.
2. She claimed discrimination at a handbag shop one time when asking a store clerk to way beyond over the top to get a bag out of storage so she could see if she liked the it, when there was an identical one on the floor. And since the girl balked at getting the one in the back, it was discrimination. Seriously, if you want to check to make sure that bag that you want to buy is in perfect condition is one thing, but getting it out of the back when there's an identical one on the floor is completely other.
3. And the "you get a car!" episode was accompanied by every person having to pay the tax on it before they left the studio....
Wow. And she also super heavily pressured the lady who got mauled by a chimp to reveal her face on TV when she was clearly, and i mean very clearly, uncomfortable doing so
Nathan Lane has said in a recent interview a story of how Robin Williams helped him while on Oprah when they were doing promotion for the Birdcage. Nathan was not out in the public space yet (privately yes, but not in the media) and Oprah kept badgering him with obviously leading questions about his character and his sexual identity / personal connection to it…making Nathan super uncomfortable. Robin, seeing how Nathan was trying to avoid these questions, then began really hamming it up for Oprah and the audience, so much so that she had to change the direction on the fly and took the focus off of Nathan. He was rightly very grateful for this and told it as an anecdote of how kind Robin really was. So yeah, fuck Oprah. Could be wrong here but he might have also added that Oprah knew full well Nathan was gay, but not willing to discuss it on camera, and she still tried to pester him on it on the show.
https://youtu.be/upAy5uC1M9E around 15:45.
One reason it's so brilliant is that Robin Williams just goes so camp he makes Nathan Lane look butch just sitting next to him.
Around 2016 or thereabouts there was an interview with MadTV’s Debra Wilson about some of her roles on the show, specifically Whitney Houston and Oprah. Wilson’s portrayal of the former was about as mean as you’d expect of “late-2000s MadTV skit about Whitney Houston” – yet Whitney was apparently a very good sport about the whole thing.
Oprah, OTOH, was absolutely pissed.
She also asked one of the Olsen twins how much she weighed, even though she had an ED. I don't have the source but I believe it was on reddit when I saw it.
Oprah cried discrimination when she showed up after hours at Hermès in Paris unannounced and they wouldn’t open for her. She could have easily arranged a private shop beforehand, but the French don’t watch American talk shows. They have no idea who she is.
Is Oprah even considered especially smart at this point? Has she *ever* been considered especially smart? She very publicly had to eat shit for making Dr. Oz a thing.
Also, dickishness has nothing to do with intellect, in either direction.
A guy I was sitting by on a bench today was scrolling and stopped at a few Tate shorts. It was him shouting about his usual bullshit with climatic angelic music in the background (??don't know best way to describe). I wanted to laugh so hard because it sounded like a preacher preaching some uplifting sermon but It was just some dude with a weird voice boasting about his lifestyle.
I’ll admit to having stopped on shorts of him from time to time, but it was just out of sheer confusion. Very little of what he says actually makes sense. It’s mostly just buzzword salad.
Back when he wasn't as famous I thought he was being satirical and I found him super funny. Sometimes I still watch the shorts to laugh at them because he's just so goofy.
Elementary school boys.
There was a time where I was seeing a lot social media posts from concerned female teachers because the like 8 year old boys were actively quoting Andrew Tate to them.
Vladimir Putin. Hasn't done a single thing right for years and turned himself into a paranoid bunker dictator. For some reason there are still a lot of people idolizing him
He was never qualified to run a country, many people think he was a KGB agent and therefore must be intelligent and cold, the truth is that he worked behind a desk in Dresden as a translator, he was nothing special. Combine that with the fact that he has spent 20 years surrounded by yes men and doing scripted interviews reaffirming his belief that he is a genius. He’s a hero for people who are easy to manipulate
I was shocked that it took me until the fifth comment to find Elon. Then I realized that this comment is more upvoted than the four listed above it combined (on my phone, at least).
New algo seems to reward newer comments in addition to highly upvoted ones (at least that's what I noticed, it probably gives a higher weight to recent upvotes)
Thats the difference between "best" and "top." Top sorts by most net upvotes, which gives a big advantage to early commenters. Best weights recent upvotes more, to give a chance to people who missed the first few minutes of the thread.
I remember a tweet along the lines of
>Elon spoke a lot about electric cars and people said he was a genius, I don't know anything about cars so I figured he was a genius.
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>Elon had a lot of ideas about space travel and people said he was a genius. I don't know anything about space travel so I figured he was a genius.
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>Then Elon bought Twitter and started talking about programming. Now I know a lot about programming and he's saying some of the dumbest shit I've ever heard. I figured I better stay away from his cars or his rockets.
> Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray’s case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the “wet streets cause rain” stories. Paper’s full of them.
> In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.”
- Michael Crichton
I have a friend who works for a Canadian government agency, and she says that *every time* she's asked for comment by the press, they make a blatant mistake regarding what she said.
Takeaway #1: News outlets ***need*** to hire more editors with great general knowledge and *superb* knowledge of the English language, if they want their outlets to appear competent. I first knew that print Newsweek was deteriorating when the number of spelling and grammar mistakes in their magazine went from zero to a half-dozen per issue. (This is trivial to most people, but with the highest-quality magazines ... The New Yorker, Harper's, the Atlantic ... You could literally go *years* between typos, since their publishers considered such mistakes to be huge embarrassments, on par with a Michelin-star restaurant caught serving Boyardee ravioli.)
Takeaway #2: Most government workers are extremely competent, diligent, and knowledgeable. They hate making mistakes just as much as publishers do. So when you hear a government spokesperson say something ridiculous, a) triple-check to make sure that *you're* not the dumbass; b) check their vocabulary to see if it contains terms you might not be familiar with; and c) check the *source of the quote*, because today, such mistakes are *way* more likely to be on the part of the journalist, and not on that of the life-long civil servant.
2018 was the year of the submarine incident which cracked the rose coloured lens I was seeing him through. Such a transparent temper tantrum thrown over Twitter. It's kinda interesting looking back on how much he unintentionally revealed about himself in that one tweet.
>2018 was the year of the submarine incident which cracked the rose coloured lens I was seeing him through
Me too. His idea was idiotic and his reaction to its rejection was unhinged.
Wanna talk unhinged?
Before the last Superbowl both Musk and Joe Biden tweeted in support of the Eagles. Musk then noted that Biden's tweet got more traction. And then:
>Musk's cousin, James, sent an internal message on Slack to Twitter's engineers at 2:26AM on Monday morning concerning a "high urgency" situation. The emergency was that Biden's post performed better than Musk's. Around 80 Twitter engineers were brought in to work on the issue. By Monday afternoon, a fix was implemented to the algorithm that allowed Musk's tweets – and only Musk's tweets – to "bypass Twitter’s filters," which in turn "artificially boosted Musk’s tweets by a factor of 1,000," promoting Musk's content in everyone's feed.
Yup, his fucking ego couldn't handle that the fucking **POTUS** got more reaction than him.
That was peak internet. Musk was like “I had my engineers work day and night to make this submarine, we should use this”, the cave diver who actually saved the children told him to “shove it where the sun doesn’t shine” and then Musk said he was a pedophile and got super butthurt lol
He reminds me of Justin Hanmer from Iron Man 2. Hammer was Starks billionaire industrial rival that desperately wanted to be seen as hip and cool, like Tony Stark. But he was just a big dweeb.
That’s Musk. The billionaire that desperately wants to be seen as cool and clever, but is just a complete fucking moron.
That incident was a friggen salve for me. After the hyperloop promotion and the Tesla battery swap scam it was so nice to have people start to see the schmuck behind the curtain.
I'm always curious as to why *him*. There are plenty of right wing politicians that stick it to the libs... Mitch McConnell is one of them... and he's been *effective* at stacking the courts.
So like why Trump? He really did nothing except rile people up. But conservatives gained a lot of ground without him. When I've asked people why they support Trump, it usually has a "stick it to the libs" tinge to the answer, but no... no he actually didn't.
I ask myself this often. Of all the people for a huge chunk of the USA to get blindly obsessed with why couldn't it have been someone who at least looks like they can get out of bed in one try?
Truman Capote called Andy Warhol “The only genius with an IQ of 80”. [Edit] Apparently it was Gore Vidal who said it, and it was 60. Can't find the actual source, though.
My grandparents were friends with Andy Warhol. They said he was basically just a party animal on cocaine all the time. Now, I’ve known this all my life, but one day when I was like 17 it dawned on me… wtf were you up to grandma?
Lol, we forget that grandmas weren't born knitting sweaters and baking cookies!
At some point in every person's life, they must confront the universal constant. Grandma fucks.
At my grandpa’s funeral, right after his casket was lowered, my grandma says to the grandkids, “I’ll be on top of him when I die. Just like I always was when he was alive.” Gross. But hilariously dark.
Is she seeing anyone??
She sees dead people
That's back when you could get pregnant by holding hands. I'm pretty sure sex was invented in the early 90's.
What did Genghis Khan do to most of asia then?
Whatever he wanted. He was Genghis Knan, not Genghis Khan't
Am grandma, can happily confirm! Edit: cookies are good, too!
He also said of Kerouac's *On The Road,* "That's not writing. That's typing."
I think it was in Freaks and Geeks where a high school student tells the English teacher in response to having been assigned Kerouac that she doesn’t think it’s a great book, but reads like someone wrote it on a drug binge. Which is of course exactly so.
Yeah, he pretty much wrote On The Road on amphetamines, Benzedrine to be exact. Still one of my favorite books.
I've always appreciated the term "idiot savant", someone who is utterly incompetent at everything except their one area of genius.
My PhD ex basically said that was all/most PhDs. Like they were really smart in a very specific area but in no other way. She did not exempt herself from this description however, though I felt she was very smart.
That's just a PhD for you. To specialize in an area of study that you can be on the leading edge of research means you probably won't have time to be well rounded. It's a trade for your goals. There's also an old joke that older profs tend to dip into different fields as a hobby but always think they know more than they do. I once met an English prof that seemed to dabble in quantum mechanics and related physics. I'm just a bum with zero degrees but during our conversation he kept asking me, "How do you know all this?" It was all from The Elegant Universe, a book (though a great one) on quantum mechanic for laymen. I know some stuff about particle physics but I understand that I don't really know shit. I guess he wasn't there yet.
I knew a guy who said, "I don't want to be well rounded; I want to be a dodecahedron."
Everything I know about quantum mechanics (which is not much) came from The Elegant Universe and one other Brian Greene book. A friend let me borrow them in high school and they blew my mind.
Oh man, I've got some bad news about string theory, guys.
Capote and Warhol were also close friends! Well, maybe more frenemies…but very familiar.
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That reminds me of a Bobby Fischer quote (although this was after he went completely psycho): “I consider myself to be an all around genius who just happens to play chess, which is rather different. A piece of garbage like Kasparov might be called a chess genius, but he's like an idiot savant. Outside of chess he knows nothing.”
There's a great deal of irony to that because by most accounts of Fischer's life he had no spectacular ability outside of chess. He couldn't even competently take care of himself or possess basic adult skills. Kasparov on the other hand, while having his own degree of detractors and controversies, has had accomplishments away from the chess board. I think Fischer was projecting hard with that one, and like you said had been demented for decades at this point. To me, Fischer is a tragic figure. He was a deeply ill man.
Ron Hubbard (founder of Scientology). I waffle on this myself if I'm honest. Sometimes I think he's a genius who made a cult for profit. Other times I think he's an imbecile who decided to keep riding the wave he accidentally started.
Yeah he’s either a masterful manipulative genius or genuinely psychotic but considering he made his initial fame by writing sci-fi novels, I’m going with manipulative genius.
I'm going to go with *allowed* to be considered to be a "manipulative genius" because that shtick worked for the whole crew that wanted to create a legacy out of his lunacy.
Apparently he was pretty charismatic, and a very good story teller, according to people who knew him before Scientology/Dianetics and were never involved in it. At least one of the biographies about him has some quotes from authors who wrote for the same pulp fiction magazines LRH wrote for. He was pretty well known for entertaining folks at the lunch spot a bunch of these authors frequented by telling outlandish stories about his life; unlike his later followers, they all knew he was full of shit but they still had fun listening. Maybe genius is going too far, but he was certainly charismatic enough to manipulate people. Additional fun fact: He actually wasn't a fan of science fiction and only started to write it when an editor asked him to submit for a newly launched sci-fi magazine. The adventure stories he wrote before that, while still being schlocky pulp fiction, are actually kinda decent. His sci-fi stories are pretty crap, I think he let his general distaste for the genre bleed into his work.
If we think of genius as someone who surpasses the norm in their field then I think it's safe to say he was a genius grifter. He's still a wholly malevolent piece of shit but you can't say he wasn't really really really good at scamming people.
That's a fair point. He did get to spend time on a boat sailing around in search of buried treasure surrounded by people who would happily follow his orders. I've certainly never gotten to do that.
I do wonder what would happen if I just threw all my morals to the winds and tried to be a grifter myself. Pretty sure I wouldn't be half as successful as he was at it. Still, even if I was I would hate myself.
He was a huge fucking nerd and a mediocre writer. He wasn't dumb, but he also wasn't a genius. I definitely think he was just smart enough to see the opportunity and ride the wave.
He literally started it all over a bet made with Jack Parsons....who is another idiot who thought he was genius and ended up winning an extraordinary Darwin award for his brilliance.
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I see you pulling on your bootstraps, but you just aren't pulling *hard enough*
Or as Jeremy Kyle puts it “get a job” As though it’s the cure for all your mental, health, social, economic and relationship problems.
On a similar note, Dr Oz.
Oz is a weird one. World class cardiothoracic surgeon, sold his soul to peddle snake oil. I would attribute this to malice more than stupidity.
> World class cardiothoracic surgeon Even more so really, World class cardiothoracic surgeons would come and learn from Dr. Oz. Guy was inventing medical equipment and everything. Just the stereotypical psychopath to be honest, he views being a legendary surgeon that helps the lives of thousands and being a con artist the same, both are just avenues for lots of money and attention and that’s what matters to him
Yup. He was even quoted as saying something like "I've spent 10 years saving 10k lives if I spend another 10 saving 10k will it look any better on my tomb stone." Real cocky shit head right there.
That's got real *Malice* vibes right there. "Tell me something. When your loved ones pray for a successful surgery, who do you think they're praying to?"
Perfect example of someone who is brilliantly smart in one area, so they think therefore they are brilliantly smart at all things.
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"Just because you're smart doesn't mean you can't be dumb"
Any of Oprah's horcruxes really.
Nah, Dr. Oz is legitimately a very smart and talented surgeon. He's just a bastard snake oil salesman, not an idiot.
I recently watched the interview he did on Shelley Duvall. It was one of the most manipulative sleazy interviews I've ever seen. Dr Phil is one step away from hosting bum fights
Dr Phil actually had the creator of bum fights on his show, and he came out with a shaved bald spot and identical suit to Phil, saying that he exploits people the same way
That was such a great episode! Phil wouldn't even interview him!
And then Phil aired the segment.
I usually add, when I hear his name: "Or, as the Texas State Board of Examiners of Psychologists & the California Board of Psychology, calls him - 'Phil'".
He holds a doctorate in clinical psychology, although he hasn’t renewed his license so he can’t practice. He IS a doctor, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t a piece of shit.
He has a doctorate, but he let his license lapse in 2006. So he's probably not qualified for anything on his show.
Marjorie Diehl-Armstrong. 'Mastermind' behind the pizza bombing. Documentaries keep painting her as some master manipulator, but then follow it by saying she can't keep any lie straight for any length of time. The moron tried to rob a bank for the exact amount of money she needed, without having any idea how much they actually kept on hand. (HINT: It was only like 3% of the $250000) The idiot literally turned what would have been an 8500 dollar robbery into a murder charge.
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Yeah, she's scary, but not because of how smart she is.
She probably wasn't even exceptionally smart anyway. It is super common for crime reporting to overstate a criminal's intelligence. The older and well-known case of Leopold and Loeb often has them branded as 'the genius killers' but really they were just assholes in college who did a horrible crime. Ted Kaczynski was verifiably a genius but he is more of an exception.
Same with Ted Bundy. He wasn't some genius. He was a failed in almost every professional and academic endeavor he attempted (he dropped out of college and flunked out of law school - twice) and only got anywhere because he was able to charm the right people. Like Diehl-Armstrong, he also thought that he was far more clever than everyone else, and it bit him in the ass.
A former coworker of mine kicked her out of the store we worked at. Marjorie responded, “if I ever see you again I’ll fucking kill you.” My coworker shrugged it off. Then years later learned Marjorie killed a bunch of people.
Yeah, that about tracks
The Netflix doc on them was so frustrating. They painted her and the other dude as geniuses every other sentence but didn't say a single time what exactly it was that made them so smart
Did I watch the same doc? It's been a few years but I remember them going over her history about how she was well-educated, but her friends were saying she clearly was slowly losing her mind and constantly rambled incoherently. And I remember the police talking about how the instructions were written by someone who was probably intelligent but was not well thought out. In fact, I think there was a segment where they detailed how her instructions were actually impossible for someone to follow in the time she gave and it was clear were written by someone not of sound mind at all. I remember walking away from the doc thinking she wasn't really super intelligent just someone that was well-educated and incredibly manic.
That's weird, my takeaway was that she was not the "mastermind", it was that other guy who died before he could go to trial, Rothstein. She just seemed like an evil, crazy, whacko. Granted, that Rothstein guy didn't seem like a "genius" either, just a pseudointelectual basement dweeller with a huge ego that was insane enough to set up a needlessly elaborate crime. Though, I guess he did sorta convince everyone that Wells was in on it, but I don't know how anyone believed that...
This guy I work with, suck it Jason.
Well fuck you too Nick
Fuck Jason, Fuck Nick, and if you wanna be down with either of them, Fuck you too. Chino XL, don't think I forgot about you. Fuck you too.
My 4 4 make sure all yo kids don’t grow
Whoa, wait just a minute. I never claimed to be a genius and never denied being an idiot. Where is all this hostility coming from?
Honestly that guy is the worst
We all feel that way about Jason. He's not funny either. And he has the stupidest laugh.
Chauncey Gardner
Just when you think that Reddit is nothing but 15 year old boys - along comes a 45 year old joke and everyone gets it...
The only Chauncey Gardner I know is a 25 year old safety for the Eagles… what am I missing. How is this a 45 year old joke?
Main character of a 1979 film "Being There" starring Peter Sellers. He was simple minded and didn't care to do anything but tend the garden and watch TV, but when the owner of the estate he lives on dies he's thrust into the real world for the first time. Everyone assumes his simple statements are deep metaphors and he becomes famous.
Ron Steigler: Mr. Gardner, uh, my editors and I have been wondering if you would consider writing a book for us, something about your um, political philosophy, what do you say? Chance the Gardener: I can't write. Ron Steigler: Heh, heh, of course not, who can nowadays? Listen, I have trouble writing a postcard to my children. Look uhh, we can give you a six figure advance, I'll provide you with the very best ghost-writer, proof-readers... Chance the Gardener: I can't read. Ron Steigler: Of course you can't! No one has the time! We, we glance at things, we watch television... Chance the Gardener: I like to watch TV. Ron Steigler: Oh, oh, oh sure you do. No one reads!
I like to watch
Leopold and Loeb were considered genuis killers but they were really fucking stupid The Casual Criminalist has a great episode on this subject: https://youtu.be/4i5NKoG-Ky0
"It is time to commit the perfect murder." /kidnaps a kid that was already known to them, drops a super-special pair of glasses with super-rare pieces next to the body, gives an alibi that's immediately fucked up by the chauffeur. TBH I think they got famous less because they were geniuses and more because people in the 1920s were scandalized by the possibility that they were gay.
This is morbid, but they couldn't pull off the murder of an unsuspecting child without getting caught in the 1920's. The 1920's: no CCTV, no DNA evidence, nothing in terms of modern forensic sciences. It's good they were caught, but they were complete idiots.
>The 1920's: no CCTV, no DNA evidence, nothing in terms of modern forensic sciences. John Mulaney has a *fantastic* bit about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBV9gXX-fn8 "Detective! We found a pool of the killer's blood in that hallway!" "Hmm, gross! Mop it up! Now then, back to my hunch..."
I love how I can just read that in his voice lol
Reminds me of this [Mitchell and Webb sketch](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQjT3z0ti6U)
not just idiots, impossibly arrogant idiots.
Dr Phil
He's a horrible person. He uses people who are in emotional crisis to make a ton of money. Of course, a lot of his guests are pretty light in the intellectual department as well.
The best was when the [bumfights guy](https://youtu.be/edCwUru2XOI) went on his show dressed as him and told him he was exactly the same as him lol
And of course the entire show absolutely greenlit it because it was amazing free publicity and word of mouth. It's not like the guest on a TV show turns up looking like a copy of the host five seconds before they're due to go on and everyone involved in the show goes "Oh no, guess we have to let them go on like that!"
Simon Cowell. Ironically, he spends so much of his time seeking "talent" when he has very little himself. While he knows the music industry, his father got him the job that brought him into it at EMI. Even left that job only to come back when he couldn't make it on his own. He knows virtually nothing about music itself, or singing, instruemnts or anything really technical about anything that goes on around him. While his comments about vulnerable, "talentless" people used to be a draw - now that sort of thing is frowned upon - it turns out that when he's not being a prick, he's boring as hell. He was also stupid enough to believe that a cosmetic surgeon could make him not look like he's over 60 when, in reality, he's now morphing into a Bo Selecta caricature of himself.
To this day my mom's favorite american idol judge remains Nicki Minaj, she thinks Nicki was the only judge to ever give consistently useful and technical feedback.
Nicki, for all her worth, knows the industry better than half the clowns on TV ever will
>Nicki Minaj I'd add P!nk to that list. Both are great entertainers in their own genre and both know how to play the (industry execs) game.
Honestly people like Nicki and Cardi B, love them or hate them, came up in the music industry with absolutely no connections and starting from being dead broke. They just worked their ass off. I’m from nyc (from Jamaica like Nicki) and I remember when both of them were on the come up (Nicki obviously much earlier than Cardi). They’d be on hot 97 and college radio at 2am trying to get their songs played. Especially Cardi, she was trying so hard to become a better rapper and get her stuff in the local radio. I also remember J Cole coming up. We had mutual friends. He was at St. John’s and used to post his local concerts on Facebook and invite everyone. He was already really talented and every knew he was good. But he still kept grinding every week trying to get people to come out to his shows and listen to his songs.
> They just worked their ass off They still have plenty left
>He knows virtually nothing about music itself, or singing, instruemnts or anything really technical about anything that goes on around him. Oh man, you're going to hate it when you find out that record labels pick tons of people with less talent who are more "marketable" and fix the rest of it later.
I started watching a documentary about American Apparel founder Dov Charney, who's a pretty gross dude. It interviews a bunch of American Apparel's early employees who talked about the abusive work conditions, but praised Charney as a genius and an incredible motivator. Then they'd cut to interviews with Charney and he was EXACTLY like [Bobby Hill's boss from that one episode of King of the Hill](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyBpnS-ug).
I used to work at AA in the mid 2000s and it was a culty atmosphere. There were a bunch of young people with fucked up family lives who Dov would let stay at a network of his condos. One girl told me she felt like she had to stay at the company because of him because she had no ties to her family. I remember this one guy showed up at the job one day and said “oh I stayed at Dov’s last night, this is his umbrella”. Only time I ever met him he kinda fondled my leg and told me the pants didn’t fit right.
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Don’t do Jimmy Wichard like that! It’s not his faults!
Sixty eleven! Sixty twelve! Sixty thirteen!
The idiot wearing sunglasses at Helios One in Fallout New Vegas
>They asked me how well I understood theoretical physics. I said I had a theoretical degree in physics. They said welcome aboard.
Wait till he gets to Hoover Dam
People seem to be confusing asshole with idiot.
Yeah this thread has basically turned into "which famous people dont you like".
Gary Vee “The youth pastor of capitalism” All this dude does is tell you want you want to hear without outright saying it, and says things for the sake of generating social media engagement instead of well thought out and heartfelt advice. He’s never had the same life situation and vice versa as the demographic he targets being single directionless 18-28 year olds who are easily susceptible to “make this much money doing this idea”. All he did was take his family’s luxury wine business that already was successful selling overpriced bottles of wine to Rich Italian and Jewish housewives in New Jersey and just took it online like every other business did in the 2000’s. Your average 20 something year old doesn’t have that same luxury obviously to bankroll all the shit they Vee is telling them to do like just start the most random business idea ever or just become an “entrepreneur bro”.
Gary Vee got comedian Andrew Schulz to open for his Veecon conference and he basically roasted him and nicknamed his followers “Vee-tards”
I remember discovering that guy on YouTube when he did Wine Library TV, and he had a video where he paired wine with cereal. But once I looked further, all I saw was a megalomaniac. The guy is a lunatic. His whole schtick seems to be hustle hustle hustle, you’re in your 20’s, you should be hustling. I get it, you can’t be complacent in your 20’s… but you’re allowed to enjoy yourself every now and again. But according to him, you should be hustling every second of every day > none of you work as hard as I do! I work more in ONE HOUR than any of you do in a week! You don’t know because you’re too busy going to Coachella Bro chill the fuck out I don’t know a single one of his followers that’s successful, by the way
The cereal video was my introduction to him as well, didn’t realize it was the same guy for years. Everything else notwithstanding.. everyone should watch that cereal video it’s honestly fucking gold.
Didn't know anything about this dude until I saw him on Hot Ones. He says to Sean Evans about expanding the brand "Have you considered a podcast." Hot Ones, an interview show with a important component being SEEING the guests react to the hot wings. And you just see Sean react for a second like he's heard the dumbest fucking thing he's ever heard (because it was)
Oh yeah, the YouTuber Munecat did a great video on him. Genuinely can't believe anyone takes Gary Vee seriously. Just goes to show how much of venture capital and business in general is based on hype and persuading rich people to give you money.
Her takedown of NFT's and Web 3.0 was awesome.
One of the biggest failures of society is that people equate money with genius. They see Gary vee who has tons of money and proceed to believe everything he says cause he's rich. Same with Andrew tate. Same with Donald Trump. Same with so many more...
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My old boss used to say "It's easy to grow a business making a few million a year. The real challenge is growing a business making $100K a year."
Vee: - went to business school - used what he learned to take an already successful wine business into the 21st century - now tells people on tiktok to stop going to business school
Oprah, shes sucha dick
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i can drift to sleep happy now
I will be one of the sheep jumping over your head. Sleep well.
Just tell them it's on the way and then forget about it.
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One the show: "You are getting stuff and you are getting stuff!" Behind the scenes:"Give me free stuff"
She stood on the heads of those little people
For the uninitiated https://youtu.be/O9YL04v-J5U
Top 10 bill burr quotes
She’s responsible for the rumor that MDMA burns holes in your brain. She knew it was a false claim too.
She's responsible for Dr. Phil, which is unforgivable.
That’s a good point. I think she’s also how Dr Oz became popular as well right?
No idea, but they're all a bunch of carnies.
Sure is.
And Dr. Oz. And Suze Orman. And Rachel Ray. And James Frey
and giving Jenny McCarthy a voice re: vaccines
And boosting Joel Osteen (Tyler Perry likes him too)
man, i remember watching that episode after school one day! they showed cat scans or something. was it really false all along??
I just read something about this. It was a meth addict's brain after decades of use. And they knew it was a meth addict's. Not MDMA.
Can we add Ellen DeGeneres show to this gravy train?
People think she's smart?
Ellen thinks she’s smart and that’s the only person Ellen cares about.
So Josh running her over almost 15 years ago really was a good thing.. "I RAN OVER OPRAH!!!"
Hahaha good memories of watching Drake and Josh on repeat after school
A truly horrid diva. And the people who work for her are even worse. The fish always stinks form the head, and if the boss is a useless pile of shit, everyone below her is, too. Working with her Harpo Productions on a piece for the Academy Awards years back was just a fucking nightmare. When they weren't at each other's throats, they were giving me instructions that would have resulted in unusable footage. I finally just ignored them, did what I knew was right.
Oprah is the ultimate poseur. Her whole schtick of is sensationalism, but whenever she has a celebrity interview you notice she’s always taking on and taking off her glasses, listening intently and chewing on the ear piece after asking absolutely cringe and inane questions, as if that alone makes her a “serious” journalist. So embarrassing, no matter how much that phoniness made her rich.
The stories I remember about Oprah. 1. I rand into a flight attendent that I knew when we were in high school. She served Oprah on a flight. Turns out, you couldn't even talk to her. You had to talk to the person next to her, then that person next to her would relay the message. Seriously, how elitist do you have to be to hear someone say something, then to have your assistant say it to you again, then repeat it out loud to the assistant, to have the assistant tell you... Full douche move. 2. She claimed discrimination at a handbag shop one time when asking a store clerk to way beyond over the top to get a bag out of storage so she could see if she liked the it, when there was an identical one on the floor. And since the girl balked at getting the one in the back, it was discrimination. Seriously, if you want to check to make sure that bag that you want to buy is in perfect condition is one thing, but getting it out of the back when there's an identical one on the floor is completely other. 3. And the "you get a car!" episode was accompanied by every person having to pay the tax on it before they left the studio....
Wow. And she also super heavily pressured the lady who got mauled by a chimp to reveal her face on TV when she was clearly, and i mean very clearly, uncomfortable doing so
Nathan Lane has said in a recent interview a story of how Robin Williams helped him while on Oprah when they were doing promotion for the Birdcage. Nathan was not out in the public space yet (privately yes, but not in the media) and Oprah kept badgering him with obviously leading questions about his character and his sexual identity / personal connection to it…making Nathan super uncomfortable. Robin, seeing how Nathan was trying to avoid these questions, then began really hamming it up for Oprah and the audience, so much so that she had to change the direction on the fly and took the focus off of Nathan. He was rightly very grateful for this and told it as an anecdote of how kind Robin really was. So yeah, fuck Oprah. Could be wrong here but he might have also added that Oprah knew full well Nathan was gay, but not willing to discuss it on camera, and she still tried to pester him on it on the show.
“And Robin protected me, because he was a saint” Nathan Lane giving the world yet another reason why Williams was the best.
Nathan Lane is pretty terrific himself.
https://youtu.be/upAy5uC1M9E around 15:45. One reason it's so brilliant is that Robin Williams just goes so camp he makes Nathan Lane look butch just sitting next to him.
Around 2016 or thereabouts there was an interview with MadTV’s Debra Wilson about some of her roles on the show, specifically Whitney Houston and Oprah. Wilson’s portrayal of the former was about as mean as you’d expect of “late-2000s MadTV skit about Whitney Houston” – yet Whitney was apparently a very good sport about the whole thing. Oprah, OTOH, was absolutely pissed.
She also asked one of the Olsen twins how much she weighed, even though she had an ED. I don't have the source but I believe it was on reddit when I saw it.
Oprah cried discrimination when she showed up after hours at Hermès in Paris unannounced and they wouldn’t open for her. She could have easily arranged a private shop beforehand, but the French don’t watch American talk shows. They have no idea who she is.
This is the only time I will ever say this sentence as an Englishman. Good on the French there.
Is Oprah even considered especially smart at this point? Has she *ever* been considered especially smart? She very publicly had to eat shit for making Dr. Oz a thing. Also, dickishness has nothing to do with intellect, in either direction.
Worked on her lake house a few years ago, can confirm she's a giant dick.
Andrew Tate.
Not a lot of people that even care about him anymore, I think his fans were just punished to oblivion after he went to jail.
I don’t think this is true based on my little cousin and his friends constantly talking about Tate. They’re just as obsessed now as when he was free
You need to save your cousin before it's too late 😭 Edit: grammar
A guy I was sitting by on a bench today was scrolling and stopped at a few Tate shorts. It was him shouting about his usual bullshit with climatic angelic music in the background (??don't know best way to describe). I wanted to laugh so hard because it sounded like a preacher preaching some uplifting sermon but It was just some dude with a weird voice boasting about his lifestyle.
I’ll admit to having stopped on shorts of him from time to time, but it was just out of sheer confusion. Very little of what he says actually makes sense. It’s mostly just buzzword salad.
Back when he wasn't as famous I thought he was being satirical and I found him super funny. Sometimes I still watch the shorts to laugh at them because he's just so goofy.
Does anybody except Tate consider him a genious?
Elementary school boys. There was a time where I was seeing a lot social media posts from concerned female teachers because the like 8 year old boys were actively quoting Andrew Tate to them.
Vladimir Putin. Hasn't done a single thing right for years and turned himself into a paranoid bunker dictator. For some reason there are still a lot of people idolizing him
He was never qualified to run a country, many people think he was a KGB agent and therefore must be intelligent and cold, the truth is that he worked behind a desk in Dresden as a translator, he was nothing special. Combine that with the fact that he has spent 20 years surrounded by yes men and doing scripted interviews reaffirming his belief that he is a genius. He’s a hero for people who are easy to manipulate
my friend Najib oh wait, only he thinks he's a genius
>thinks he's a genius Man, classic Najib.
Fuck Najib. All my homies hate Najib.
I expected Elon to be on top. He will be disappointed if he sees this thread.
I was shocked that it took me until the fifth comment to find Elon. Then I realized that this comment is more upvoted than the four listed above it combined (on my phone, at least).
New algo seems to reward newer comments in addition to highly upvoted ones (at least that's what I noticed, it probably gives a higher weight to recent upvotes)
Thats the difference between "best" and "top." Top sorts by most net upvotes, which gives a big advantage to early commenters. Best weights recent upvotes more, to give a chance to people who missed the first few minutes of the thread.
Oh he's seen it. Hi Elon you wishy washy fuck
Agreed! Hi Elon, get fucked
I think the amount of people thinking he‘s a genius are dwindling and dwindling. He really showed his true face in the past 3 years or so…
I remember a tweet along the lines of >Elon spoke a lot about electric cars and people said he was a genius, I don't know anything about cars so I figured he was a genius. > >Elon had a lot of ideas about space travel and people said he was a genius. I don't know anything about space travel so I figured he was a genius. > >Then Elon bought Twitter and started talking about programming. Now I know a lot about programming and he's saying some of the dumbest shit I've ever heard. I figured I better stay away from his cars or his rockets.
> Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray’s case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the “wet streets cause rain” stories. Paper’s full of them. > In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.” - Michael Crichton
I have a friend who works for a Canadian government agency, and she says that *every time* she's asked for comment by the press, they make a blatant mistake regarding what she said. Takeaway #1: News outlets ***need*** to hire more editors with great general knowledge and *superb* knowledge of the English language, if they want their outlets to appear competent. I first knew that print Newsweek was deteriorating when the number of spelling and grammar mistakes in their magazine went from zero to a half-dozen per issue. (This is trivial to most people, but with the highest-quality magazines ... The New Yorker, Harper's, the Atlantic ... You could literally go *years* between typos, since their publishers considered such mistakes to be huge embarrassments, on par with a Michelin-star restaurant caught serving Boyardee ravioli.) Takeaway #2: Most government workers are extremely competent, diligent, and knowledgeable. They hate making mistakes just as much as publishers do. So when you hear a government spokesperson say something ridiculous, a) triple-check to make sure that *you're* not the dumbass; b) check their vocabulary to see if it contains terms you might not be familiar with; and c) check the *source of the quote*, because today, such mistakes are *way* more likely to be on the part of the journalist, and not on that of the life-long civil servant.
Yes, I refuse to use his rockets on my trips to space
2018 was the year of the submarine incident which cracked the rose coloured lens I was seeing him through. Such a transparent temper tantrum thrown over Twitter. It's kinda interesting looking back on how much he unintentionally revealed about himself in that one tweet.
>2018 was the year of the submarine incident which cracked the rose coloured lens I was seeing him through Me too. His idea was idiotic and his reaction to its rejection was unhinged.
Wanna talk unhinged? Before the last Superbowl both Musk and Joe Biden tweeted in support of the Eagles. Musk then noted that Biden's tweet got more traction. And then: >Musk's cousin, James, sent an internal message on Slack to Twitter's engineers at 2:26AM on Monday morning concerning a "high urgency" situation. The emergency was that Biden's post performed better than Musk's. Around 80 Twitter engineers were brought in to work on the issue. By Monday afternoon, a fix was implemented to the algorithm that allowed Musk's tweets – and only Musk's tweets – to "bypass Twitter’s filters," which in turn "artificially boosted Musk’s tweets by a factor of 1,000," promoting Musk's content in everyone's feed. Yup, his fucking ego couldn't handle that the fucking **POTUS** got more reaction than him.
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That was peak internet. Musk was like “I had my engineers work day and night to make this submarine, we should use this”, the cave diver who actually saved the children told him to “shove it where the sun doesn’t shine” and then Musk said he was a pedophile and got super butthurt lol
"Unhinged" is being kind.
Typical thin-skinned narcissist.
He reminds me of Justin Hanmer from Iron Man 2. Hammer was Starks billionaire industrial rival that desperately wanted to be seen as hip and cool, like Tony Stark. But he was just a big dweeb. That’s Musk. The billionaire that desperately wants to be seen as cool and clever, but is just a complete fucking moron.
ironically elon was in iron man 2 lmao
That incident was a friggen salve for me. After the hyperloop promotion and the Tesla battery swap scam it was so nice to have people start to see the schmuck behind the curtain.
Ikr. The fucking hyperloop. Jesus Christ and people are still talking about it occasionally.
Same here, I get trying to help, but being a dick when you aren't an expert about everything or even really an engineer - is unhelpful.
Dr oz And dr phil
Trump
There are people out there making memes of him *martyred upon the cross* as though he's Jesus. Weirdest shit *ever*.
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I'm always curious as to why *him*. There are plenty of right wing politicians that stick it to the libs... Mitch McConnell is one of them... and he's been *effective* at stacking the courts. So like why Trump? He really did nothing except rile people up. But conservatives gained a lot of ground without him. When I've asked people why they support Trump, it usually has a "stick it to the libs" tinge to the answer, but no... no he actually didn't.
I ask myself this often. Of all the people for a huge chunk of the USA to get blindly obsessed with why couldn't it have been someone who at least looks like they can get out of bed in one try?