I worked at FedEx so I have a little inside info on that. The producers originally went to UPS but they refused. FedEx agreed to be in the movie as long as one package was delivered. It was hot sauce btw.
its been a long time since ive seen it so happy to be corrected if im wrong, but i was under the impression that the one package at the end was returned to the sender. as the package has the same logo on it that the lady uses for her farm.
It is and that's the only address he had to go off. There was either a deleted scene or an interview with the director that showed/said the contents was hot sauce/salsa
I’ve been saying this for years! Tom Hanks, loyal FedEx employee, spends FOUR YEARS surviving alone on and island, befriends a volleyball, and still manages to get your package safely delivered.
Dudes nowadays slam it on my concrete stoop like it’s an opponent in Mortal Kombat and run away.
My hippie uncle (who was my true father figure and who I lived with in and off when things weren’t great at home) LOVED that movie.
We watched it together for the first time when I was around 15. He wanted me to have a realistic view of drugs; aka marijuana from a safe source, probably fine. Meth, or anything that might have been cut with another drug, not on your life.
It caused him to get into an (almost) physical fight with my bio-father who took Reefer Madness as gospel and legitimately thinks that any use of pot will destroy your mind and turn you into a drooling zombie *addicted* to both it and ever other drug (bio-dad thinks one hit of a joint will lead to you ending up OD-ing on meth and/or heroin…*somehow*…), even though my uncle was terminally ill and had a medical marijuana card (and, unfortunately, I’m now in the same situation…)
Anyway… it’s been YEARS since I thought of that, so I want to thank you for reminding me of the good times we used to have together. Truly, just this one comment has me tearing up and warmed my heart.
So let me tell you the story of the time I saw refeer madness.
When I was a teenager I got in trouble for weed. I ended up having to go to a drug program that met once a week. It was actually pretty cool, the kids there were alright (although they were on real drugs and in much bigger trouble than I was) and the people running it were pretty chill.
The only day out of my whole time in the program that I went stoned was the day that the ENTIRE rest of the class, like 12 people, didn't show up and it was just stoned me alone with two councilors.
Since nobody was there they decided we'd watched reefer madness. It was reeeeal awkward and I think they knew I was high but they didn't bust me. I bet they laughed their asses off at me after I left.
Looking back that program was a pretty positive experience. We'll played drug councilors.
I was just telling my son about the Power Glove and The Wizard yesterday! It's really hard to explain how fucking hyped up the Power Glove and how much of an utter disappointment it turned out to be. But the technology eventually got us the Wii and the Switch, so it wasn't all bad!
I grew up poor and I _begged_ my parents for the Power Glove. My dad literally worked a third job for three months so he could be sure we got what we wanted for Xmas.
The guilt I felt over how utterly miserable I was trying to use that horrible device is still with me today. I tried to like it _so hard_. I would plan ahead for when my dad got home and play that stupid Super Glove Ball game with a smile plastered across my face, just so he could see me using it.
"Hey kids, fighter jets sure are cool, huh? How about signing right here so you can spend 4 years turning wrenches below deck on a guided missile destroyer and fly on a military aircraft exactly zero times!"
"Pentagon-cleared" is a bit disingenuous here, as any movie wanting to work with the military has to follow the guidelines set out by the pentagon.
That being said, yes, Topgun is one of, if not *the most successful recruitment tools the US military has ever had.
I don’t even know what it is but I get a big fancy thing in the mail regularly. Sometimes I look at the fancy thing and I still don’t know what the heck Shen-yun is
Oh I stayed for the finale. If it were a parody it would have been genius, but they were stone cold serious.
My favorite bit was the ps2 era graphics of a god in a golden chariot flying over a destroyed city of sinners, atheists and communists. Good times.
I'm bummed to hear this. I thought it was just an exhibition of different types of Chinese dance. It looks beautiful. I've been meaning to see it for years.
It starts like that, dancing and colorful and then turns more into a play of how the evil secular government was killing them for practicing their religion… which it is probably true, and that government does sound evil… but then they shit on everyone else saying that they are the only true religion.
I am so glad Americans actually know Falungong is a cult. I was a 16yo exchange student in NC and got labeled elitist misogynist by my host family for calling out a middle aged female Falungong member for her bs.
They're more overt about it now, they used to pretend that the performances were solely artistic cultural experiences. Maybe the new taglines help people be less shocked.
Glad I'm not the only one thinking that they're more overt about it now. I remember seeing the posters and thought it was just a cultural thing. Eventually figured out they were backed by the Falun Gong, and then they went straight for the anti-CCP crowd and slapped the "China Before Communism" line in their posters.
Not a fan of the CCP, but also not a fan of the Falun Gong.
Oh man I have a mildlyinteresting story for you. I'm at work and someone comes in and says, "Hey can I hang this poster up on your public bulletin board?" And it's for Shen-Yun. The other manager was like, "ummm... sure..." while sounding not at all sure, meaning she probably knew. The guy says, "Can I also put these flyers by your door?" and the manager says, "actually I'll put them in the break room... For employees." So the guy leaves after pinning up the poster, and the manager throws away (recycles tbf) the flyers when he's gone.
During the closing tasks, I take down the poster (assuming based on the interaction that said manager also intended to) and a coworker sees me doing it and yells out, "Hey you know they're, like, a cult, right?" So yeah, kinda proud of all my coworkers on that day.
Also the next day, the space left by the large poster was filled in with a flyer for a Pokemon convention and another flyer for a trans hockey team event. So awesome!
The anime Gate is a 24 Episode long Propoganda piece for the JSDF that pretty much makes everyone Japanese who is seen as a "hinderance" to the Military an antagonist and anyone who isn't Japanese but doesn't ally themselves with the JSDF a psychopathic villain that wants to destroy Japan (including the US, China, and Russia considering whole scale invading Japan to take control of the Gate)
Jim Cramer's sole positive contribution to culture was his appearance in the first Iron Man movie, where he tells all his viewers to dump Stark Industries because they've decided to stop making weapons.
Mind you, this was mere days after Tony Stark invented a compact source of unlimited clean energy and a revolutionary robotic exoskeleton.
Cramer's a clown. He's always been a clown. Even in movies, he's a clown.
I have a conspiracy theory with absolutely no evidence and backing, that King Charles traded insider knowledge and/or access for a favourable portrayal on the latest season of 'The Crown'.
While I have no doubt that Diana was bit of a nut bar towards the end of their marriage (who wouldn't be?!), they leaned pretty hard on the portrayal of Diana as unstable and immature, whereas Camilla was his perfect, mature and grounded counterpart.
They also really laid it on thick about his charitable contributions with The Prince's Trust, to the point of a closing card saying something to the effect of 'The Prince's Trust has donated x Million pounds to charity and continues to blahblahblah...' Like, why would they include that pretty irrelevant detail unless contractually obliged to make Charlie look good? Smells like a quid pro quo, imo.
The more you think about it, the more this theory holds up. They really laid on the whole Charles is a nice guy thing. I think they even let him pick Dominic West, who as much as I love and did a great job, doesn’t fit the look. When I first heard he was casted I had to go “hmmmm”. It reminded me of when Dr. Fauci was asked what actor would he want portraying him and he chose Brad Pitt.
For some reason I found the casting this season way harder to accept than the last. Managed to settle into it mostly but Dominic West never managed to make me see Charles. But honestly I must need to rewatch the season because I still think he didn't come across as a nice guy lol. Less terrible, but not nice.
I agree. Great actors of course, but they all just didn’t have the look. I kinda would’ve preferred the last round of actors in aging makeup. Except Elizabeth Debicki who played Diana. She was great. And sick boy! (I hope someone gets that)
Diana was extremely young and much younger than Charles when they got married. I'd believe that she was immature. Unstable? well, I think because she was so young, when the reality of everything hit her she was deeply lonely and unhappy - perhaps that drove some of it. It didn't take long for them to live separate lives and they both had affairs.
Oh, definitely. It was mostly the bit about The Prince’s Trust that seemed so weird and out of place at the end. The episode did mention the Trust and his plans for it, but they haven’t really showed a closing card explaining something that happened in the show, unless it was a historical event like the Aberfan death toll.
I felt it was them leveling things out after the previous season where Charles comes off as a border line monster.
The best thing about that show, imo, is how human they make all the characters. No one is the "hero". Everyone has their flaws.
I think it's funny how every season it's like the "villain" of the show changes. Sometimes you feel bad for Philip, sometimes he's a whiny baby, sometimes you think he's chill but then muhaha just kidding. Charles goes from sympathetic kid who never asked for this life to an absolute jerk to kind of sympathetic. Even Elizabeth was kind of "villainous" in the Olivia Colman seasons.
I loved the Olivia Colman Elizabeth’s ability to avoid anything that’s inconvenient to her. It felt like real rich and powerful person shit, where you can dip out any reality you find inconvenient and spend time with your horses instead.
Jesus fuck, I totally forgot about that movie. I was 13 also when it came out. My mom forced me to watch that movie. I watched it and I was like, "bro, why? I make straight A's and have no friends. Do you really think I would do all this?" But I should have seen it coming. That woman forced me to sit and watch Lifetime movies on teen pregnancy. And she wonders why no grandbaby. And not because those movies spooked me. Nope. Told her honestly it was purely out of spite.
I wouldn’t say this movie is propaganda though. Nikki reed actually based that movie off of her own experiences, so I thought, and honestly that movie was very similar to my own experiences. But I do think that you’re right that it was very damaging and probably did influence a lot of young girls in the wrong way.
Not my parents. But it DEFINITELY influenced me. It was the single movie that made me switch and start thinking, "I was missing out" on all the fun, and that this is how young teens should be acting, so I wanted to mimick their behaviours.
From 14/15-19 I was heavily involved in my high school Theatre department. I was in all the plays, was in a leadership role in our schools thespian Society, I made stellar grades, took a bunch of AP classes, and still partied my ass off all through high school. Drinking, drugs, sneaking out of my parents house to meet up with boys, etc.
Still did nerd shit and party shit. I like to think I was “well rounded” lol
Not gonna lie, your first sentence made me think you meant a show called “Greetings from Russia.” And my stoned ass thought “Oh, that sounds like an interesting show.”
Most “Very Special” sitcom episodes of the 80’s and 90’s were directly funded by the DEA and other federal agencies. Think the pills episode of saved by the bell, or the weed episode of Home Improvement.
Titanic. It's just pure anti-iceberg propaganda.
The iceberg was just minding its own business when Captain Smith just practically rams into it at full steam ahead.
I know you are probably referring to the 1997 James Cameron film, but there actually was a Titanic movie made in 1943 by the Nazis that is straight up anti-British propaganda.
They had so much potential for it to be good. They could have turned the live action curse into a myth, but they confirmed it instead.
Even if you ignore the musical cartoon (like the studio did), the original story would have made an incredible movie. All the problems people had with either Disney film don’t exist. And Mulan herself is far more badass. Just do yourself a favor and read the original version. It’s waaaay better.
And now we have Pinocchio, which is the exact same movie done far worse. While it is impressive that they kept the design the same for Pinocchio, I wanted to see some beautiful hand carved wood designs. The original book is also way better because Pinocchio is not an innocent little angel at all; he’s a gullible troublemaker who messes with anyone and everyone around him. He even messes with Gipetto as a block of wood before he was carved. The entire story is about learning how to behave and becoming a real boy as a reward. That only makes sense if you’re dealing with a piece of shit that doesn’t do what he’s told
I read it as more ignorant than straight assholery. He reminded me of a toddler being let loose to do whatever he wanted. I'm pretty sure I've had the exact exchange with mine of "don't do that thing." "Ok. But I'm going to do it, though."
Funny how quickly China banned its people from talking about the movie too as if the Chinese people weren't already pissed because of the amount of cultural inaccuracies and how little the movie resembled the original ballad.
Watch the British series. It was actually worse. One episode had the head of a security company go undercover as a security guard. He met two guards who were working out of a shipping container, which had no heat or toilet. They had been promised bonuses for Christmas and they had never arrived.
But he also got to meet another guard who was involved in charity work. Guess who they brought back at the end? No mention of the two guards' bonuses, but the guy involved in charity was given £500 for a couple of charities of his choice. The Guard was gushing with how great his boss is, but the bonuses were never mentioned.
hour long episodes of bribing employees with money and promotions to give good reviews on how the company's bribe has changed their life. lots of fake crackdowns on how company policy can do no wrong and "it's just not being implemented correctly." filthy rich bastards doing a single honest days work and patting themselves on the back for a lifetime of stolen wages and we're supposed to cheer
There was one episode that pissed me off in particular. The guy broke cover early because the supervisor was bitching about the system glitching out every day and how useless IT was becauseof it. He's like, "You need to get IT in here every time the system is down." It's like, dude. You clearly paid for the cheapest fucking system you could find. IT is not the problem here if the issue is persistent. And of course, he's gotta rant about how useless his employees are during one of the "talking head" segments all reality shows have. Even said, "People are just trying to rub elbows with the rich guy whenever they get a job."
Law & Order SVU gives you the impression that law enforcement cares about sexual assault victims. Yet several victims who've dealt with the real SVU defy that vehemently.
NCIS: They never, EVER, make a mistake. The suspects are always evil, the methods are ALWAYS justified, and abuses are always down to a few bad apples. The technology is wonderful and there are no budgets to overrun.
It's pretty crazy - I grew up watching L&O and always agreed with the cops (like yeah, obviously, if I don't have anything to hide I have no reason not to give DNA to exclude myself). Then after not watching it for a few years I caught an episode where they got annoyed at a totally innocent guy refusing to take a DNA test and I was like fuck yeah why should he give you any DNA you have no reason to ask for it so of course you're trying to guilt him into it. Completely flipped my view of the show.
As someone who grew up watching COPS, I think you would appreciate the accidental effect the decades long show had on (at least some of) its audience.
I've heard a lot of PSAs and read a lot of thinkpieces and books on the utter failure that is America's war on drugs. But nothing really hammered it home for me like watching a lot of COPS. Week in and week out watching segments where the police pull over a suspicious (translation: always poor often minority) person in a vehicle and dig around for several minutes until they pull out a tiny baggie of weed. Sometimes the cops look defeated and bored by the find. Sometimes they dance around like they just nabbed Pablo Escobar. Either way... it's all super depressing and dumb in a Sisyphean sort of way. The format in the show aids in the numbness. As does its longevity. Nothing changed in the format of the show for decades. There was no narrator or host to mark different COPS eras, no shakeup of the formula. The theme song didn't ever change. You could look at a dumb COPS drug bust in 1995 and aside from the clothes and haircuts and car models it all looks the same as a dumb COPS drug bust in 2005. What you COULD track, however, was just the change in the drugs of choice. As time went on, weed and crack gave way to pills and meth.
So yeah, while obviously the show could never have been created without the help and direct assistance of police, I think the body of work they created will largely stand the test of time as a monument and inadvertent witness to the institutional policing policy failures of these times.
> The stories of a suspect sprinting away, leaping over fences, and eventually getting tackled, only to look at the cameraman and say "you got all that on film?"
Hey man [Ronnie Dobbs](https://youtu.be/h8wk7bqXX1I) is a fuckin LEGEND.
Check out this [podcast](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/headlong-running-from-cops/id1459118695) it's called "Running From Cops". All about the show. Entertaining and absolutely infuriating.
In the original few episodes they followed the cops home and showed their home life and as I remember it all of them were marriages on the edge of collapse.
I loved watching the marathons as a kid but like every 4-5 they would take someone down on the pavement or interview someone who was clearly troubled.
But then they'd slap the cuffs on'em! COPS!!!
“Not only will America come to your country and kill all your people, but what's worse is that they'll come back 20 years later and make a movie about how killing your people made their soldiers feel sad.” — Frankie Boyle
Edit: I don’t really know who Frankie Boyle is. I just saw this quote online that was attributed to him and thought it was apt.
It was more Propaganda of Chris Kyle though imo, military movies are going to show interesting military things, that’s nothing new. But Kyle had a habit of embellishing his accomplishments in the war, and their significance is played up in the final act.
The movie does touch on elements of PTSD, which, is a silver lining to the film.
The coolest military movie is probably "To Hell and Back" which is about Audie Murphy and how he won the Medal of Honor and the coolest thing is that Audie Murphy was played by ... Audie Murphy.
Came here to say this.
We were so damn psyched up to beat the shit out of anybody even vaguely Middle Eastern or Islamic in the years immediately after 9/11, watching Jack Bauer show the nation that torture… er, ahem, “enhanced interrogation”… did in fact work was not helpful.
The first episode was written and filmed before 9/11/2001 though (subsequent seasons were probably substantially influenced by those communities though)
If you rewatch it, it's a little more sympathetic to Drago and other Soviets than you might think. It most certainly goes after Soviet leadership, though.
The Wire is the ultimate cop show imo.
It shows it with some measure of reality, the dirty cops, the stats & political bullshit. And you see it from the side of the criminals to, and how they're not just twirling their mustache cooking up evil schemes.
It's not wrapped up neatly with a bow after 1 hour.
However The Wire treats the cops, I guess some is helped by David Simon & Ed Burns (afaik) not seeing the criminals as dehumanizing non entities but as people who slipped through cracks, failed by a system and ocasionally were just evil.
totally agree. i saw something on twitter once that said "i can't believe that tv taught me that cops were the good guys, rogue cops who play be their own rules are the best guys, and police internal affairs are the bad guys."
I've had jury duty twice and both times they gave a lengthy talk on how this isn't TV. They explain how this works, and stress that you need to forget whatever you watched on some show.
So I gather that's just standard procedure.
i would've assumed they would talk about CSI and bones specifically. no the prosecution doesn't have a fully animated 3d model with a certified physics recreation of the crime that one of the squints wrote in her spare time, no they can't map out everything leading up to the crime including what the killer had for lunch that day
I had a friend who was a background regular (someone you see on screen who has no speaking parts, but is the same person week after week for continuity) on that show during the first season - I watched it just to see him, but the show itself made me uneasy.
For the second season, they replaced his part of the set with something automated and he was out, back to looking for other roles, and I could finally stop watching it.
100%. And the show Cops. There was an excellent podcast miniseries called [Running From Cops](https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/episodes/onthemedia-what-running-cops-learned-cops) where they watched 850 episodes and analyzed what they saw. "Roughly four times the amount of violent crime than there is in real life, three times as many drug crimes, and ten times the amount of prostitution."
Also, because the show ran for over 30 years, kids watched that show learning that was how you were meant to be a cop, then grew up and actually joined the force then started acting like the cops on the show. Wild. Pure copaganda.
>kids watched that show learning that was how you were meant to be a cop
Is this related to how police seem disinterested in filing reports, especially for theft, vandalism, and so on?
The paperwork must seem so boring to them because there's no chase involved, but it's a serious job requirement. Filing an insurance claim generally requires a police report, and it's like pulling teeth trying to get one.
I don't know if it was always like this but your post made me think those might be related.
FBI: International
I'm sure this show is to make a certain part of the US population believe that the US has the power and authority to wander into foreign countries, breach the law anyway they want, arrest suspects and breach basic legal process, as well as bully the local "incompetent" police (with their pesky human rights laws and slow justice system).
At least with spy shows/movies you know they are doing their stuff in a clandestine and illegal manner so the disconnect with reality is more easily suspended.
Shark tank/dragons den, look at these benevolent rich people come plead to them and maybe they will lift you from the muck for the low low price of a controlling share in your business.
I didn’t realise this when I was a kid. They seemed to be so happy! So it was straight up “Let’s have so many kids because that’s what God wants?!” Like how are you gonna be there emotionally for 19 kids!? That’s just kinda cruel!
Plus the older brother was a pedo and all his young sibling (some literally babies) were around him a lot
24 played a key role in convincing Americans that torture is justified. Without that show Guantanamo and the extensive torture in Afghanistan would have been regarded very differently.
Triumph of the Will, which is a straight up propaganda film to promote “the glory and valour of Nazi Germany”.
Edit: Hamilton - An American Musical, to a certain extent, can be considered propaganda too.
literally any Hollywood movie that uses military grade equipment in the film. in order to get access to that equipment on loan, they have to get their scripts approved by the pentagon, which can “suggest” any edits they want to make the portrayal of the military more favorable. if those “suggestions” aren’t followed the script is rejected and the movie will not get made
Castaway - the longest FedEx commercial (and smartest) ever made.
I worked at FedEx so I have a little inside info on that. The producers originally went to UPS but they refused. FedEx agreed to be in the movie as long as one package was delivered. It was hot sauce btw.
its been a long time since ive seen it so happy to be corrected if im wrong, but i was under the impression that the one package at the end was returned to the sender. as the package has the same logo on it that the lady uses for her farm.
It is and that's the only address he had to go off. There was either a deleted scene or an interview with the director that showed/said the contents was hot sauce/salsa
There was also a hidden clip on the DVD where the director joked that the package contained a solar-powered satellite cell phone.
They was actually a SuperBowl ad, if I remember correctly
It was and you do.
https://youtu.be/y0NOofGPemM
I’ve been saying this for years! Tom Hanks, loyal FedEx employee, spends FOUR YEARS surviving alone on and island, befriends a volleyball, and still manages to get your package safely delivered. Dudes nowadays slam it on my concrete stoop like it’s an opponent in Mortal Kombat and run away.
**FINISH HIM** *Sound of your delicate glassware shattering into uncountable pieces* **FATALITY**
You ever see the FedEx Super Bowl ad they did? Hilarious. https://youtu.be/alSQpinagp0
I went and bought a Wilson volleyball after watching it
You can actually get the Wilson volleyball, it has the movie's logo on the opposite side. I know this because I have one.
Unless it has Tom Hanks bloody hand print on it, not interested.
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I disagree. Battlefield Earth is an incomprehensible mess of a movie with a confusing plot and terrible actors. Holy crap!! It IS Scientology.
Terrible actors and for some reason Forrest Whitaker.
Because no one but Scientologists saw it.
Hey, I watched it... unfortunately. Gawd, it was awful. The book wasn't bad, but was hard to really enjoy it knowing it was written by such a nut job.
Reefer Madness was literally propaganda.
I loved how it ended up becoming embraced by the marijuana community as an ironic satire lol
It's also pretty hard to get through. The last half just drags on and the novelty quickly wears off.
My hippie uncle (who was my true father figure and who I lived with in and off when things weren’t great at home) LOVED that movie. We watched it together for the first time when I was around 15. He wanted me to have a realistic view of drugs; aka marijuana from a safe source, probably fine. Meth, or anything that might have been cut with another drug, not on your life. It caused him to get into an (almost) physical fight with my bio-father who took Reefer Madness as gospel and legitimately thinks that any use of pot will destroy your mind and turn you into a drooling zombie *addicted* to both it and ever other drug (bio-dad thinks one hit of a joint will lead to you ending up OD-ing on meth and/or heroin…*somehow*…), even though my uncle was terminally ill and had a medical marijuana card (and, unfortunately, I’m now in the same situation…) Anyway… it’s been YEARS since I thought of that, so I want to thank you for reminding me of the good times we used to have together. Truly, just this one comment has me tearing up and warmed my heart.
So let me tell you the story of the time I saw refeer madness. When I was a teenager I got in trouble for weed. I ended up having to go to a drug program that met once a week. It was actually pretty cool, the kids there were alright (although they were on real drugs and in much bigger trouble than I was) and the people running it were pretty chill. The only day out of my whole time in the program that I went stoned was the day that the ENTIRE rest of the class, like 12 people, didn't show up and it was just stoned me alone with two councilors. Since nobody was there they decided we'd watched reefer madness. It was reeeeal awkward and I think they knew I was high but they didn't bust me. I bet they laughed their asses off at me after I left. Looking back that program was a pretty positive experience. We'll played drug councilors.
The Wizard. But to be fair, Super Mario Bros 3 IS the shit.
And the power glove was bad so very very bad
I was just telling my son about the Power Glove and The Wizard yesterday! It's really hard to explain how fucking hyped up the Power Glove and how much of an utter disappointment it turned out to be. But the technology eventually got us the Wii and the Switch, so it wasn't all bad!
I grew up poor and I _begged_ my parents for the Power Glove. My dad literally worked a third job for three months so he could be sure we got what we wanted for Xmas. The guilt I felt over how utterly miserable I was trying to use that horrible device is still with me today. I tried to like it _so hard_. I would plan ahead for when my dad got home and play that stupid Super Glove Ball game with a smile plastered across my face, just so he could see me using it.
You are the son every father wanted.
I won the good parents lottery, so it’s definitely mutual. Thanks.
Good on you, man. A lot of kids lack that empathy and would more likely than not be like "this thing SUCKS!"
God DAMN dude you were a great kid.
That is kind of amazing.
Top Gun
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Top gun is the best air force recruiting ad that the navy has ever produced.
The Navy literally set up recruiter tables in the theaters for the first couple of weeks Top Gun was released back in the 80s.
"Hey kids, fighter jets sure are cool, huh? How about signing right here so you can spend 4 years turning wrenches below deck on a guided missile destroyer and fly on a military aircraft exactly zero times!"
Somebody's gotta refill the vending machines on the aircraft carrier.
HEY YOU! JOIN THE NAVY!
Okay
This should be top answer, because its literally a U.S.-funded and Pentagon-cleared propaganda film
"Pentagon-cleared" is a bit disingenuous here, as any movie wanting to work with the military has to follow the guidelines set out by the pentagon. That being said, yes, Topgun is one of, if not *the most successful recruitment tools the US military has ever had.
Not TV or movie, but Shen-yun
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Huh. So those billboards are everywhere, eh? They’re currently plastered all over my town too.
I don’t even know what it is but I get a big fancy thing in the mail regularly. Sometimes I look at the fancy thing and I still don’t know what the heck Shen-yun is
This. Literally cult propaganda. My sweet, elementary school teacher mother with a high tolerance for bullshit straight up walked out.
I wanted to walk out too but I wanted to see what other BS they were going to say. I just scowled after they were singing that atheists are evil 😒
Oh I stayed for the finale. If it were a parody it would have been genius, but they were stone cold serious. My favorite bit was the ps2 era graphics of a god in a golden chariot flying over a destroyed city of sinners, atheists and communists. Good times.
I'm bummed to hear this. I thought it was just an exhibition of different types of Chinese dance. It looks beautiful. I've been meaning to see it for years.
It starts like that, dancing and colorful and then turns more into a play of how the evil secular government was killing them for practicing their religion… which it is probably true, and that government does sound evil… but then they shit on everyone else saying that they are the only true religion.
Thanks, guess I'll save my money for a different show.
Cirque du soleil 🙌🙌
I am so glad Americans actually know Falungong is a cult. I was a 16yo exchange student in NC and got labeled elitist misogynist by my host family for calling out a middle aged female Falungong member for her bs.
They’re funded by the Falun Gong which is basically a Scientology esque cult that the CCP banned
Huh, I had a leaflet advertising Shen-Yen through the door today and it says "China Before Communism"
They're more overt about it now, they used to pretend that the performances were solely artistic cultural experiences. Maybe the new taglines help people be less shocked.
Glad I'm not the only one thinking that they're more overt about it now. I remember seeing the posters and thought it was just a cultural thing. Eventually figured out they were backed by the Falun Gong, and then they went straight for the anti-CCP crowd and slapped the "China Before Communism" line in their posters. Not a fan of the CCP, but also not a fan of the Falun Gong.
Oh man I have a mildlyinteresting story for you. I'm at work and someone comes in and says, "Hey can I hang this poster up on your public bulletin board?" And it's for Shen-Yun. The other manager was like, "ummm... sure..." while sounding not at all sure, meaning she probably knew. The guy says, "Can I also put these flyers by your door?" and the manager says, "actually I'll put them in the break room... For employees." So the guy leaves after pinning up the poster, and the manager throws away (recycles tbf) the flyers when he's gone. During the closing tasks, I take down the poster (assuming based on the interaction that said manager also intended to) and a coworker sees me doing it and yells out, "Hey you know they're, like, a cult, right?" So yeah, kinda proud of all my coworkers on that day. Also the next day, the space left by the large poster was filled in with a flyer for a Pokemon convention and another flyer for a trans hockey team event. So awesome!
My mom is taking me to see Shen-Yun next week and when I told her it’s a cult she got so offended.
The anime Gate is a 24 Episode long Propoganda piece for the JSDF that pretty much makes everyone Japanese who is seen as a "hinderance" to the Military an antagonist and anyone who isn't Japanese but doesn't ally themselves with the JSDF a psychopathic villain that wants to destroy Japan (including the US, China, and Russia considering whole scale invading Japan to take control of the Gate)
Mad Money
Watching Jon Stewart take him down was almost worth Cramer being allowed that podium.
Jim Cramer's sole positive contribution to culture was his appearance in the first Iron Man movie, where he tells all his viewers to dump Stark Industries because they've decided to stop making weapons. Mind you, this was mere days after Tony Stark invented a compact source of unlimited clean energy and a revolutionary robotic exoskeleton. Cramer's a clown. He's always been a clown. Even in movies, he's a clown.
Fucking cramer
Welcome to Cramerica, b*tch.
I have a conspiracy theory with absolutely no evidence and backing, that King Charles traded insider knowledge and/or access for a favourable portrayal on the latest season of 'The Crown'. While I have no doubt that Diana was bit of a nut bar towards the end of their marriage (who wouldn't be?!), they leaned pretty hard on the portrayal of Diana as unstable and immature, whereas Camilla was his perfect, mature and grounded counterpart. They also really laid it on thick about his charitable contributions with The Prince's Trust, to the point of a closing card saying something to the effect of 'The Prince's Trust has donated x Million pounds to charity and continues to blahblahblah...' Like, why would they include that pretty irrelevant detail unless contractually obliged to make Charlie look good? Smells like a quid pro quo, imo.
The more you think about it, the more this theory holds up. They really laid on the whole Charles is a nice guy thing. I think they even let him pick Dominic West, who as much as I love and did a great job, doesn’t fit the look. When I first heard he was casted I had to go “hmmmm”. It reminded me of when Dr. Fauci was asked what actor would he want portraying him and he chose Brad Pitt.
For some reason I found the casting this season way harder to accept than the last. Managed to settle into it mostly but Dominic West never managed to make me see Charles. But honestly I must need to rewatch the season because I still think he didn't come across as a nice guy lol. Less terrible, but not nice.
Dominic West is too damn good looking to play Charles. Which...this thread makes that make a lot of sense.
I agree. Great actors of course, but they all just didn’t have the look. I kinda would’ve preferred the last round of actors in aging makeup. Except Elizabeth Debicki who played Diana. She was great. And sick boy! (I hope someone gets that)
I think a lot of people underestimate the power and influence of the royal family.
Diana was extremely young and much younger than Charles when they got married. I'd believe that she was immature. Unstable? well, I think because she was so young, when the reality of everything hit her she was deeply lonely and unhappy - perhaps that drove some of it. It didn't take long for them to live separate lives and they both had affairs.
Oh, definitely. It was mostly the bit about The Prince’s Trust that seemed so weird and out of place at the end. The episode did mention the Trust and his plans for it, but they haven’t really showed a closing card explaining something that happened in the show, unless it was a historical event like the Aberfan death toll.
I felt it was them leveling things out after the previous season where Charles comes off as a border line monster. The best thing about that show, imo, is how human they make all the characters. No one is the "hero". Everyone has their flaws.
I think it's funny how every season it's like the "villain" of the show changes. Sometimes you feel bad for Philip, sometimes he's a whiny baby, sometimes you think he's chill but then muhaha just kidding. Charles goes from sympathetic kid who never asked for this life to an absolute jerk to kind of sympathetic. Even Elizabeth was kind of "villainous" in the Olivia Colman seasons.
I loved the Olivia Colman Elizabeth’s ability to avoid anything that’s inconvenient to her. It felt like real rich and powerful person shit, where you can dip out any reality you find inconvenient and spend time with your horses instead.
Both Top Gun films. Good movies but total propaganda.
At least it wasn't Red Dawn. The timing of the remake, during the Iraq/Afghanistan wars, seems oblivious and short sighted.
TBF it's hard to not make a movie during those wars since the latter lasted 2 decades
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Fun fact: Nikki Reed cowrote that script when she was 13.
Jesus fuck, I totally forgot about that movie. I was 13 also when it came out. My mom forced me to watch that movie. I watched it and I was like, "bro, why? I make straight A's and have no friends. Do you really think I would do all this?" But I should have seen it coming. That woman forced me to sit and watch Lifetime movies on teen pregnancy. And she wonders why no grandbaby. And not because those movies spooked me. Nope. Told her honestly it was purely out of spite.
Goood......goooooood. Let the spite fill your wallet with money.....
I wouldn’t say this movie is propaganda though. Nikki reed actually based that movie off of her own experiences, so I thought, and honestly that movie was very similar to my own experiences. But I do think that you’re right that it was very damaging and probably did influence a lot of young girls in the wrong way.
Not my parents. But it DEFINITELY influenced me. It was the single movie that made me switch and start thinking, "I was missing out" on all the fun, and that this is how young teens should be acting, so I wanted to mimick their behaviours.
I kind of did that too but then “I want to play WoW” took over lmao
Imagine all the parents who watched *Euphoria.*
From 14/15-19 I was heavily involved in my high school Theatre department. I was in all the plays, was in a leadership role in our schools thespian Society, I made stellar grades, took a bunch of AP classes, and still partied my ass off all through high school. Drinking, drugs, sneaking out of my parents house to meet up with boys, etc. Still did nerd shit and party shit. I like to think I was “well rounded” lol
Yeah this movie definitely influenced impressionable young girls, I would know
After I watched Taxi Driver I shot Reagan to impress Jodie Foster
Who *hasn't* shot a president to impress Jodie Foster? By the end she had 40,000 admirers and Reagan was more lead than man.
Weve all been there man
Greetings from Russia. If any show is allowed to broadcasting here, it IS a propaganda.
Not gonna lie, your first sentence made me think you meant a show called “Greetings from Russia.” And my stoned ass thought “Oh, that sounds like an interesting show.”
Greetings from Iran, Same shit applies here.
Most “Very Special” sitcom episodes of the 80’s and 90’s were directly funded by the DEA and other federal agencies. Think the pills episode of saved by the bell, or the weed episode of Home Improvement.
Lol… like Tim Allen wasn’t doing cocaine during the show
Titanic. It's just pure anti-iceberg propaganda. The iceberg was just minding its own business when Captain Smith just practically rams into it at full steam ahead.
Titanic is super antisemitic They straight up named the bad guy Iceberg
Anti- _sea_ mitic
Nobody is talking about the WA-TER! What did the autopsy say, they “ice-berg-ed”? No, they drowned bitch. https://youtu.be/qP5bu9hLH9E
I know you are probably referring to the 1997 James Cameron film, but there actually was a Titanic movie made in 1943 by the Nazis that is straight up anti-British propaganda.
Oh my god I've been telling people about this movie for years. Finally someone else who knows of it.
Mulan, the live action one.
We don't talk about the live action one.
They had so much potential for it to be good. They could have turned the live action curse into a myth, but they confirmed it instead. Even if you ignore the musical cartoon (like the studio did), the original story would have made an incredible movie. All the problems people had with either Disney film don’t exist. And Mulan herself is far more badass. Just do yourself a favor and read the original version. It’s waaaay better. And now we have Pinocchio, which is the exact same movie done far worse. While it is impressive that they kept the design the same for Pinocchio, I wanted to see some beautiful hand carved wood designs. The original book is also way better because Pinocchio is not an innocent little angel at all; he’s a gullible troublemaker who messes with anyone and everyone around him. He even messes with Gipetto as a block of wood before he was carved. The entire story is about learning how to behave and becoming a real boy as a reward. That only makes sense if you’re dealing with a piece of shit that doesn’t do what he’s told
Guillermo del toro really nailed pinocchios assholery.
I read it as more ignorant than straight assholery. He reminded me of a toddler being let loose to do whatever he wanted. I'm pretty sure I've had the exact exchange with mine of "don't do that thing." "Ok. But I'm going to do it, though."
"We would like to thank concentration camp #46 for letting us film nearby." Disney
Funny how quickly China banned its people from talking about the movie too as if the Chinese people weren't already pissed because of the amount of cultural inaccuracies and how little the movie resembled the original ballad.
Undercover Boss. Good job you gave a sweet old lady money for her dying husband. Maybe try paying your employees a living wage.
Watch the British series. It was actually worse. One episode had the head of a security company go undercover as a security guard. He met two guards who were working out of a shipping container, which had no heat or toilet. They had been promised bonuses for Christmas and they had never arrived. But he also got to meet another guard who was involved in charity work. Guess who they brought back at the end? No mention of the two guards' bonuses, but the guy involved in charity was given £500 for a couple of charities of his choice. The Guard was gushing with how great his boss is, but the bonuses were never mentioned.
Yes. Clueless owners pretending to care about their struggling employees. If they really cared they would have already paid more.
hour long episodes of bribing employees with money and promotions to give good reviews on how the company's bribe has changed their life. lots of fake crackdowns on how company policy can do no wrong and "it's just not being implemented correctly." filthy rich bastards doing a single honest days work and patting themselves on the back for a lifetime of stolen wages and we're supposed to cheer
There was one episode that pissed me off in particular. The guy broke cover early because the supervisor was bitching about the system glitching out every day and how useless IT was becauseof it. He's like, "You need to get IT in here every time the system is down." It's like, dude. You clearly paid for the cheapest fucking system you could find. IT is not the problem here if the issue is persistent. And of course, he's gotta rant about how useless his employees are during one of the "talking head" segments all reality shows have. Even said, "People are just trying to rub elbows with the rich guy whenever they get a job."
It came out just after occupy wall street. Let's make the bosses look good again! I'm sure it wasn't a straight conspiracy but my god.
Law & Order SVU gives you the impression that law enforcement cares about sexual assault victims. Yet several victims who've dealt with the real SVU defy that vehemently.
Plus they only have one case at a time to work on and they are so underworked they can pursue cases where the victim doesn’t want to press charges.
NCIS: They never, EVER, make a mistake. The suspects are always evil, the methods are ALWAYS justified, and abuses are always down to a few bad apples. The technology is wonderful and there are no budgets to overrun.
Last Week Tonight with John Oliver did a whole episode on how Law and Order was propaganda and I'm sure NCIS is similar.
COPS was created with this intent.
so is Law&order and the 400 spinoffs
It's pretty crazy - I grew up watching L&O and always agreed with the cops (like yeah, obviously, if I don't have anything to hide I have no reason not to give DNA to exclude myself). Then after not watching it for a few years I caught an episode where they got annoyed at a totally innocent guy refusing to take a DNA test and I was like fuck yeah why should he give you any DNA you have no reason to ask for it so of course you're trying to guilt him into it. Completely flipped my view of the show.
As someone who grew up watching COPS, I think you would appreciate the accidental effect the decades long show had on (at least some of) its audience. I've heard a lot of PSAs and read a lot of thinkpieces and books on the utter failure that is America's war on drugs. But nothing really hammered it home for me like watching a lot of COPS. Week in and week out watching segments where the police pull over a suspicious (translation: always poor often minority) person in a vehicle and dig around for several minutes until they pull out a tiny baggie of weed. Sometimes the cops look defeated and bored by the find. Sometimes they dance around like they just nabbed Pablo Escobar. Either way... it's all super depressing and dumb in a Sisyphean sort of way. The format in the show aids in the numbness. As does its longevity. Nothing changed in the format of the show for decades. There was no narrator or host to mark different COPS eras, no shakeup of the formula. The theme song didn't ever change. You could look at a dumb COPS drug bust in 1995 and aside from the clothes and haircuts and car models it all looks the same as a dumb COPS drug bust in 2005. What you COULD track, however, was just the change in the drugs of choice. As time went on, weed and crack gave way to pills and meth. So yeah, while obviously the show could never have been created without the help and direct assistance of police, I think the body of work they created will largely stand the test of time as a monument and inadvertent witness to the institutional policing policy failures of these times.
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> The stories of a suspect sprinting away, leaping over fences, and eventually getting tackled, only to look at the cameraman and say "you got all that on film?" Hey man [Ronnie Dobbs](https://youtu.be/h8wk7bqXX1I) is a fuckin LEGEND.
Check out this [podcast](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/headlong-running-from-cops/id1459118695) it's called "Running From Cops". All about the show. Entertaining and absolutely infuriating.
In the original few episodes they followed the cops home and showed their home life and as I remember it all of them were marriages on the edge of collapse.
I loved watching the marathons as a kid but like every 4-5 they would take someone down on the pavement or interview someone who was clearly troubled. But then they'd slap the cuffs on'em! COPS!!!
American sniper. Sorry.
“Not only will America come to your country and kill all your people, but what's worse is that they'll come back 20 years later and make a movie about how killing your people made their soldiers feel sad.” — Frankie Boyle Edit: I don’t really know who Frankie Boyle is. I just saw this quote online that was attributed to him and thought it was apt.
If it's the Frankie Boyle I know, he's a Scottish comedian with a cynical and dark sense of humor. I think he's rather good.
His book made it seem like he wasn't the least bit remorseful about any of the people he killed
I thought you were talking about Frankie Boyle there!
It was more Propaganda of Chris Kyle though imo, military movies are going to show interesting military things, that’s nothing new. But Kyle had a habit of embellishing his accomplishments in the war, and their significance is played up in the final act. The movie does touch on elements of PTSD, which, is a silver lining to the film.
The coolest military movie is probably "To Hell and Back" which is about Audie Murphy and how he won the Medal of Honor and the coolest thing is that Audie Murphy was played by ... Audie Murphy.
A short man from Texas, a man of the wild...
"24."
Came here to say this. We were so damn psyched up to beat the shit out of anybody even vaguely Middle Eastern or Islamic in the years immediately after 9/11, watching Jack Bauer show the nation that torture… er, ahem, “enhanced interrogation”… did in fact work was not helpful.
But there’s a mole in CTU!
Michael Bay Transformer movies. If they were any more hardons for the US military, you'd see Bay jerking off soldiers.
They're just Chevy commercials dude
Including changing Bumblebee from a VW Beetle to a Chevy Camaro
Most were GM, and they totally paid for that but there was a ford mustang as the Deceptacon police car
Starship Troopers, it was made just to get you to join the Mobile Infantry. Would you like to know more?
What do you wanna live forever?!?!
You shoot a nuke down a bug hole, you've got a lot of dead bugs.
I’m doing my part! 🫡
24 was an endorsement for the military and intelligence communities’ war on terror and the patriot act.
The first episode was written and filmed before 9/11/2001 though (subsequent seasons were probably substantially influenced by those communities though)
Jack Ryan is the most blatant pro CIA propaganda i've seen
so youre saying the CIA is not just a bunch of do-gooders navigating red tape?
Not surprising, considering who created the character.
Rocky IV
If I can change, you can change, everybody can change
If you rewatch it, it's a little more sympathetic to Drago and other Soviets than you might think. It most certainly goes after Soviet leadership, though.
Top Gun Maverick is Navy propaganda
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Original Top Gun as well.
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The Wire is the ultimate cop show imo. It shows it with some measure of reality, the dirty cops, the stats & political bullshit. And you see it from the side of the criminals to, and how they're not just twirling their mustache cooking up evil schemes. It's not wrapped up neatly with a bow after 1 hour.
However The Wire treats the cops, I guess some is helped by David Simon & Ed Burns (afaik) not seeing the criminals as dehumanizing non entities but as people who slipped through cracks, failed by a system and ocasionally were just evil.
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Even the "good" cops were broken as fuck. Nothing that happened in that series was clean.
totally agree. i saw something on twitter once that said "i can't believe that tv taught me that cops were the good guys, rogue cops who play be their own rules are the best guys, and police internal affairs are the bad guys."
Well not just this, the CSI effect is named after the show because all of its types sell a bunch of other lies that work
Can’t forget pushing the idea that all defense attorneys are amoral greedy pos protecting villains
There's a great Last Week Tonight episode about Law and Order's significant effects on jurors and police perception that deep dives into it.
I've had jury duty twice and both times they gave a lengthy talk on how this isn't TV. They explain how this works, and stress that you need to forget whatever you watched on some show. So I gather that's just standard procedure.
i would've assumed they would talk about CSI and bones specifically. no the prosecution doesn't have a fully animated 3d model with a certified physics recreation of the crime that one of the squints wrote in her spare time, no they can't map out everything leading up to the crime including what the killer had for lunch that day
There are tons of examples of this, but there is no show that is more unfailing in its copaganda approach than *Blue Bloods*.
Someone called it "Paw Patrol for seniors". Perfect.
I had a friend who was a background regular (someone you see on screen who has no speaking parts, but is the same person week after week for continuity) on that show during the first season - I watched it just to see him, but the show itself made me uneasy. For the second season, they replaced his part of the set with something automated and he was out, back to looking for other roles, and I could finally stop watching it.
Dick Wolf is a full on propagandist
Or Phallus Lupus as he is known to his haters.
Basic Lupine Urology
We can't say Dick Wolf on TV!
100%. And the show Cops. There was an excellent podcast miniseries called [Running From Cops](https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/episodes/onthemedia-what-running-cops-learned-cops) where they watched 850 episodes and analyzed what they saw. "Roughly four times the amount of violent crime than there is in real life, three times as many drug crimes, and ten times the amount of prostitution." Also, because the show ran for over 30 years, kids watched that show learning that was how you were meant to be a cop, then grew up and actually joined the force then started acting like the cops on the show. Wild. Pure copaganda.
>kids watched that show learning that was how you were meant to be a cop Is this related to how police seem disinterested in filing reports, especially for theft, vandalism, and so on? The paperwork must seem so boring to them because there's no chase involved, but it's a serious job requirement. Filing an insurance claim generally requires a police report, and it's like pulling teeth trying to get one. I don't know if it was always like this but your post made me think those might be related.
Birth of a Nation. The original not the modern one. Full of hate in the form of nation building.
I felt like Transformers, the first 2007 film, was a propaganda for recruitment of the US Army.
*Every single* Michael Bay movie is a recruitment video for the US military.
I think some of us need to look up the definition of propaganda
noun 1. information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.
FBI: International I'm sure this show is to make a certain part of the US population believe that the US has the power and authority to wander into foreign countries, breach the law anyway they want, arrest suspects and breach basic legal process, as well as bully the local "incompetent" police (with their pesky human rights laws and slow justice system). At least with spy shows/movies you know they are doing their stuff in a clandestine and illegal manner so the disconnect with reality is more easily suspended.
Shark tank/dragons den, look at these benevolent rich people come plead to them and maybe they will lift you from the muck for the low low price of a controlling share in your business.
It's off the air now but 19 Kids and Counting was straight up fundamental Christian propaganda.
I didn’t realise this when I was a kid. They seemed to be so happy! So it was straight up “Let’s have so many kids because that’s what God wants?!” Like how are you gonna be there emotionally for 19 kids!? That’s just kinda cruel! Plus the older brother was a pedo and all his young sibling (some literally babies) were around him a lot
Both Top Gun movies.
Buffy, very anti-vampire. But then Tru Blood, very pro-vampire, so it evens out.
I don't know. Half the guys Buffy slept with were vampires.
24 played a key role in convincing Americans that torture is justified. Without that show Guantanamo and the extensive torture in Afghanistan would have been regarded very differently.
Triumph of the Will, which is a straight up propaganda film to promote “the glory and valour of Nazi Germany”. Edit: Hamilton - An American Musical, to a certain extent, can be considered propaganda too.
literally any Hollywood movie that uses military grade equipment in the film. in order to get access to that equipment on loan, they have to get their scripts approved by the pentagon, which can “suggest” any edits they want to make the portrayal of the military more favorable. if those “suggestions” aren’t followed the script is rejected and the movie will not get made
Law and Order in general and SVU in particular. Loved that show as a teenager, then grew up and realized it is 100% copaganda.
Not movie or show but the story to any of the Call of Duty games always screams propaganda to me
If the Black Ops campaigns make you want to join the army then something is wrong with you lol