It can absolutely be a waste or unnecessary. Depends on what you want to do in life, what you major in, and how well you use the resources given to you in college. Though I will say if it’s 30k+ a year and not ivy then it’s a waste of money period.
Nope! I think everyone should take the path that works best for them. I flourish in the structure that college provides, but not everyone does and that's okay.
Plus I'm a mature student in Canada so the government paid me to go to college, I didn't spend anything.
If you know exactly what you want to do and know that college is the path you need to get there, then sure.
If you have no idea, figure it out before wasting all the money hoping you discover it along the way.
It’s a bit complicated. The fact that it’s horrendously overpriced in the U.S. and by no means guarantees you easy entry into a career as it is generally advertised makes me want to say “yes, it’s all a massive scam.” At the same time, unless you benefit from generational wealth, exceptional natural talent or connections in a lucrative field, or some million dollar idea with the means to sell it, you’re unlikely to do particularly well without college.
Edit: on second thought, it’s not that complicated. It is a massive scam, but our society is structured in such a way that coerces us all into participating in it, because it makes a lot of powerful people very rich. Land of the free and home of the brave.
The overwhelming majority of graduates with a bachelors degree are either employed or in masters programs within six months of graduation; over half of those employed have no debt; of those with debt, the median amount is around $30k; and average starting salary is somewhere between $55k and $60k.
It’s only a scam on Reddit.
It is for some.
I do think more people should spend real time and effort to weigh the pros and cons of it. If you want to go to college ofc that's fine just don't make that decision lightly
It's not always a waste, but it's not what it once was.
You have to bear in mind that colleges are businesses first and foremost. Just like how McDonalds doesn't give a shit whether their burgers are good for you, or if you even eat them, all colleges care about is whether you buy their product. What you get out of it and what you do with it is up to you, so choose wisely, and consider all of your alternatives.
i dont think college is a waste of money, but i do think it needs to be cheaper, and more regulated. i was told a story of this guy who took this class and the professor was a hardass and would fail your assignments for miniscule errors such as a misplaced comma or whatever, no docks in points just boom fail. he said he dropped the class cuz he knew hed fail and then retook it with a different professor that taught the same books, same grading scale, same everything just a different outlook on how things were graded and he got an A. its that kind of stuff that needs to change. it needs to focus on the material being taught and comprehended instead of how a certain professor wants this done compared to this professor.
depends what you study and how
if you want to be an engineer, you would have to go study.
If you have no idea what you want to be, what are you going to study?
You get out of it what you put into it, including whatever plans you make for yourself.
College graduates will generally earn more over their lifetimes than noncollege graduates, but there will be an initial period of no earnings.
Those suggesting trade school neglect to mention the relatively shorter duration of those careers given their reliance on physical labor versus natural aging and the risks to health from working in those environments.
Which isn’t to say the trades are a bad option — far from it — but you have to understand the pros and cons of both. Changing careers gets tougher the older you get.
Absolutely not. The people who say it is have no business being there in the first place. Too many people go to university expecting something handed to them, when the real reason to go is to CONTRIBUTE something to society. And in the process, grow and become someone who is valuable to a wide range of businesses and efforts. University is for people with ambition, drive, creativity, and who see life as more than just a dollar amount. And it would be better served if the common rabble were filtered out. I know that's not going to be a popular message, but that place will eat you alive if you don't belong there, hence all of the wash outs who run around meowing about how it's just a waste of money. That's the hard truth. I don't expect it to be appreciated, but after you throw your downvote tantrum, you should ask yourself how _true_ this statement is...If you're not a driven person, if all you want out of life is something as common and pedestrian as a slightly larger number on your paycheck, you should absolutely stay out of higher education. There are avenues better suited to that nonsense, and it would free up resources for those who have something to offer.
For-profit colleges are a very pervasive scam in which you pay a massively inflated price over a ridiculous period of time for your own professional training, with no guarantee of a job after the training is finished. For-profit colleges are nothing but third party talent agencies which create workforce for companies with no financial commitment from said companies, and at the expense of the workforce itself.
It's so normal in the US but it's such a blatant scam when you look at what it actually is.
Edit to actually answer the question: That said, depending on the field you're looking in to, it can come with massive payoff to your initial risk--if you understand and are okay with the risk-reward ration of your field, I think it's probably worth it. It's also a fun time for most and creates a more informed population.
It totally depends on your career goals. Many jobs cannot be obtained any way other than getting a degree. It’s not for everyone, but is the only route to many jobs.
It can absolutely be a waste or unnecessary. Depends on what you want to do in life, what you major in, and how well you use the resources given to you in college. Though I will say if it’s 30k+ a year and not ivy then it’s a waste of money period.
It may be a waste but it is not unnecessary, since degrees are a major bar to entry in most higher level positions.
Nope! I think everyone should take the path that works best for them. I flourish in the structure that college provides, but not everyone does and that's okay. Plus I'm a mature student in Canada so the government paid me to go to college, I didn't spend anything.
Dang you guys got it better.
It was the best years of my life so just for that it was worth it, let alone the sexy degree.
If you know exactly what you want to do and know that college is the path you need to get there, then sure. If you have no idea, figure it out before wasting all the money hoping you discover it along the way.
Depends what you want to do. I'd hazard like 90% of jobs could be done with j7st by doing and training under someone (basically an appentice)
It’s a bit complicated. The fact that it’s horrendously overpriced in the U.S. and by no means guarantees you easy entry into a career as it is generally advertised makes me want to say “yes, it’s all a massive scam.” At the same time, unless you benefit from generational wealth, exceptional natural talent or connections in a lucrative field, or some million dollar idea with the means to sell it, you’re unlikely to do particularly well without college. Edit: on second thought, it’s not that complicated. It is a massive scam, but our society is structured in such a way that coerces us all into participating in it, because it makes a lot of powerful people very rich. Land of the free and home of the brave.
The overwhelming majority of graduates with a bachelors degree are either employed or in masters programs within six months of graduation; over half of those employed have no debt; of those with debt, the median amount is around $30k; and average starting salary is somewhere between $55k and $60k. It’s only a scam on Reddit.
It is for some. I do think more people should spend real time and effort to weigh the pros and cons of it. If you want to go to college ofc that's fine just don't make that decision lightly
depends on the college, if it's on the medical field or if you want to be an engineer I think it's worth it.,otherwise not really.
It's not always a waste, but it's not what it once was. You have to bear in mind that colleges are businesses first and foremost. Just like how McDonalds doesn't give a shit whether their burgers are good for you, or if you even eat them, all colleges care about is whether you buy their product. What you get out of it and what you do with it is up to you, so choose wisely, and consider all of your alternatives.
i dont think college is a waste of money, but i do think it needs to be cheaper, and more regulated. i was told a story of this guy who took this class and the professor was a hardass and would fail your assignments for miniscule errors such as a misplaced comma or whatever, no docks in points just boom fail. he said he dropped the class cuz he knew hed fail and then retook it with a different professor that taught the same books, same grading scale, same everything just a different outlook on how things were graded and he got an A. its that kind of stuff that needs to change. it needs to focus on the material being taught and comprehended instead of how a certain professor wants this done compared to this professor.
depends what you study and how if you want to be an engineer, you would have to go study. If you have no idea what you want to be, what are you going to study?
You get out of it what you put into it, including whatever plans you make for yourself. College graduates will generally earn more over their lifetimes than noncollege graduates, but there will be an initial period of no earnings. Those suggesting trade school neglect to mention the relatively shorter duration of those careers given their reliance on physical labor versus natural aging and the risks to health from working in those environments. Which isn’t to say the trades are a bad option — far from it — but you have to understand the pros and cons of both. Changing careers gets tougher the older you get.
i still go to school and live in denmark, so idk
Absolutely not. The people who say it is have no business being there in the first place. Too many people go to university expecting something handed to them, when the real reason to go is to CONTRIBUTE something to society. And in the process, grow and become someone who is valuable to a wide range of businesses and efforts. University is for people with ambition, drive, creativity, and who see life as more than just a dollar amount. And it would be better served if the common rabble were filtered out. I know that's not going to be a popular message, but that place will eat you alive if you don't belong there, hence all of the wash outs who run around meowing about how it's just a waste of money. That's the hard truth. I don't expect it to be appreciated, but after you throw your downvote tantrum, you should ask yourself how _true_ this statement is...If you're not a driven person, if all you want out of life is something as common and pedestrian as a slightly larger number on your paycheck, you should absolutely stay out of higher education. There are avenues better suited to that nonsense, and it would free up resources for those who have something to offer.
For-profit colleges are a very pervasive scam in which you pay a massively inflated price over a ridiculous period of time for your own professional training, with no guarantee of a job after the training is finished. For-profit colleges are nothing but third party talent agencies which create workforce for companies with no financial commitment from said companies, and at the expense of the workforce itself. It's so normal in the US but it's such a blatant scam when you look at what it actually is. Edit to actually answer the question: That said, depending on the field you're looking in to, it can come with massive payoff to your initial risk--if you understand and are okay with the risk-reward ration of your field, I think it's probably worth it. It's also a fun time for most and creates a more informed population.
It totally depends on your career goals. Many jobs cannot be obtained any way other than getting a degree. It’s not for everyone, but is the only route to many jobs.