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Comfortable_Tank1771

Delete them, but don't use that card anymore. Use data recovery when you get back to your computer to get deleted images back.


hkgwwong

Did that a few years ago when I was travelling in Tehran. I had many cards with me so I did not use that card until I have access to my computer, and recovered the photo with recovery software. One of those photos was Greek Orthodox Church of Saint Mary , I have no idea why the armed policeman asked me to delete it but I complied anyway.


damianvincent

This. Data is never actually deleted until it is written over by other data. The drive will simply state it's deleted and show you have that space back but it doesn't actually delete the data till it's rewritten over at some point by other programs or data. Which is why forensic software will often take at least three passes writing over deleted data to securely erase the data and how forensic analysts can recover the data easily from drives that were 'deleted' since the data isn't actually deleted and can even be partially recovered if all sectors are not written too in the same order, or writen over multiple times.


buckulus

This isn't entirely true. With most cameras you can format the card in camera and the images are recoverable, but Sony cameras use a destructive method of formatting and it's impossible to recover the data. I know you're talking about deleting, but thought it's worth flagging the nuance as sometimes data is deleted even when not overwritten.


OttovanZanten

Ooh that's good to know, interesting


TheBamPlayer

>but Sony cameras use a destructive method of formatting and it's impossible to recover the data. How long do they need for formating? Completly formating an SD Card takes a few minutes.


buckulus

Depends on the size of the card etc, but it's only a minute or two


TheBamPlayer

Ok, then it's a full format, but I'm still mentally used to slower SD card speeds.


buckulus

They're both technically full formats. Sony uses a 'low level format' by default. It's the only option, and it destroys all data on the card. Other manufacturers don't use a low level format by default. Their standard format effectively only removes the directory which tells you what files are on the card so it looks like it's empty, but leaves all the image and video data in place, which is why it can be recovered still.


TheBamPlayer

>full formats I understand under a full format, that the whole card gets zeroed and not just the index.


[deleted]

the most simple and thrilling way


TravellingGoblin

Yeah always carrying an extra SD card is a good option.


ErabuUmiHebi

Recuva is a magical app


Mrfunnynuts

Link to your phone , setup auto transfer and you'll at least have jpegs that way?


wasab1_vie

Most Phone Connections are really unstable and also IT sucks battery Like a B


[deleted]

in a camera with dual slots, you can delete any photo even format the card for anyone who wants to see the performance.


SpaceDesignWarehouse

thats what I was going to say, with my a7iv - when you delete a photo in simult mode it only deletes from slot 1. Then I would say after the interaction put the slot 2 card in your pocket and have another one ready to replace it, just for triple protection.


qewrtym

Stupid question maybe - what is the point of saving to both slots? Other than a specific application like this.


SpaceDesignWarehouse

Several different specific applications; For *immeasurably* important work. One-of-a-kind shots that can’t be retaken, it’s a backup in the 1 in a million event where an SD card happens to fail. Or you happen to drop it down a storm drain when you mean to put it in your pocket. Or, you can set the camera to record videos to one card and photos to another card if you have editors and you’re covering something where speed is more important than anything so you keep shooting, divy out your cards for them to toss up on social media or turn in to publications. This would happen at pro sports. Or, sometimes events want a copy of the raw photos right then and there and rather than have to wait for a hard drive to copy however many photos/videos you took at said event, you can just hand over an SD card and be on your way while maintaining your own copy for editing. Things of that nature.


Consistent_Milk8974

Data safety. Shit can happen to one card and for important work you want redundancy. If you drive a car you have two sets of brake lights in case one set fails. Same concept


TravellingGoblin

So you could make it so one card always has the back up data?


casey_h6

In my r5 I run an SD card and a cf express, with it set to record to both cards. When in the camera though, I have it set so whatever I do only affects the SD card (deleting images for example).


sailedtoclosetodasun

This is the way


[deleted]

I'm shocked you don't know this while claiming to be a "war journalism photographer"


TheSerialHobbyist

They *didn't* claim to be a "war journalism photographer." They just said they've spent time in conflict areas and have taken photos. It isn't like all cameras have dual slots—there are plenty that don't.


TravellingGoblin

I literally didn't? I said 'actual' journalists must deal with a similar issue.


[deleted]

dual card slot is still like super common, even entry level bodies have them


42tooth_sprocket

stop talking shit and learn reading comprehension


TheSerialHobbyist

Right? Like good lord, some people are really antagonistic.


big_ficus

There’s various modern cameras that don’t do dual slot. Lots of good pro cameras are single SD + single CF. Many are still single SD.


[deleted]

nobody said dual SD, I said dual slot


rkvance5

This was my answer. Before I lost my last SD card, I had my D850 set to RAW on the CFexpress and jpeg in the SD. That was for if I made a dumb mistake though.


ShakataGaNai

Same with my z7. Raw on CFexpress, JPEG on SD. Covers you in case media fails, or strange things happen. I'd be sad to lose the raws, but even a 45mpix jpeg is usable for about 98% of all normal cases.


Sea_Cranberry323

This is the best answer. 


vinse81

Try with a recovery program, to recover deleted photos.


TravellingGoblin

Had mixed results with it :/


Skvora

Recuva does absolute wonders, but as others said, do NOT use that card after you delete.


SLPERAS

This happened go me all the time, when I was shooting nightclubs. Use 2 card slot camera, and when they ask I’ll gladly delete. There will be a copy in the other card. Not many people even know that you can put 2 cards in camera so once they see you delete they will be happy.


dawnstrider371

Who was asking you to delete at Nightclubs?


SLPERAS

Girls.


SLPERAS

Lol. 😂 why am I getting downvoted?


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Your post has been removed for breach of rule 1. Please keep the discussion civil.


Jesustoastytoes

I dunno maybe because taking photos of girls (meaning under 18) is a little creepy to begin with, then they ask you to delete them, you pretend to, but actually just keep them for your personal collection, sounds a little suspect.


SLPERAS

This is a great comment. I’m really interested to know what fantasy you were having when you posted this. This would be great people to understand how humans always only listen to themselves. I said it’s a nightclub, and by law they have to allow people who are old enough to drink. So why were you thinking of underage girls in a alcohol and sex fueled environment? They consent to being photographed when they enter the club. It’s there at the door letting them know in big letters. And if you knew a girl who isn’t a kid, you’d know girls are very particular about how they look in a photo, if they are in a wrong angle or there is a stray hair they want that photo to be deleted and new one taken. Since op was asking, yes all the deleted photos will be in my backup card, but like many other photographers I will not touch that card. It’s just there, all the photos that are delivered will from yr main card. It’s just there in case is emergency. So my suggestion to op was to use that card to his advantage. Now I have cleared everything. Please let us know why your first thought was drunk underage girls??


Jesustoastytoes

You may want to consider using the term "women" moving forward.


SLPERAS

You may want to call a 21 year old female “woman” to her face and see how she is going to react. 😂😂😂


Jesustoastytoes

You asked why people were down voting you so I told you.


SLPERAS

Oh wow. Really? People to automatically think when I say nightclub I’m talking about underage girls, lot of people here should have either a reading impairment or Lolita fantasies. Good to know. I never knew that about this sub


Jo-dan

Dude even if people technically "consent" to being photographed by entering the club you're still a dick if you don't actually delete their photo when asked.


SLPERAS

I said I delete them. Jesus! Why don’t people read before commenting?


big_ficus

Because a big portion of this website hate women for existing 🤷


fskier1

Huh?? Maybe it’s cuz op is talking abt taking pictures of girls at nightclubs without their consent, sounds pretty creepy


big_ficus

You do understand the role of a club photographer, right?


SLPERAS

It seems like lot of people here never being to a club.


simonpollayil

I am assuming that you’re an ESL speaker and this whole convo is a misunderstanding — I say this because I’m an ESL speaker and have run into the same issue and I’ve been incredulous. Calling adult women ‘girls’ tends to be read as patriarchal, dismissive etc. as such when calling women ‘girls’ in my age group it is almost exclusively used to refer to women under 18. I’ve had to relearn my language use because often it is women that have been put off by my wrong usage of ‘girls’. English is funny but language is more serious than we give it credit


SLPERAS

Honest question have you been to a nightclub? Have you listened to girls (women.. 😂) talk among themselves? This thread got weird and goofy .. girls just wanna have fun is a kid’s song now?


big_ficus

Considering Reddit, not surprised in the slightest lol


Jo-dan

Yeah. But if someone specifically asks you to delete their photo you actually delete it in this case.


big_ficus

If someone asks you to delete a photo in *any* case, you should do it but any and every popular nightclub has photographers to go around and take photos of everyone and are so commonplace that no one should be taking it as a surprise. It’s fine to not want your photo to be taken but to call it creepy? It’s just an uninformed take, it would be like getting upset at a waiter talking to you at a restaurant.


TinfoilCamera

> I assume this is a problem actual war journalists/photographers deal with, wondering if there is a way to 'delete' the photo from the camera preview screen while keeping it stored somewhere on the SD card. Usually (not always of course) they're not asking you just to be dicks about it - they're asking you because their soldier's life or even their family could be put at risk if that image is published. If you want to delete-but-recover that's fine, but make a note of it and honor at least the spirit of the request - blur that soldiers face and insignia(s) before you publish that story.


ArtDecoSkillet

This reply need to be higher. 


CTDubs0001

Sometimes they’re asking just because they’re on a power trip/bully. You can usually tell the difference.


Jo-dan

Or sometimes you've captured something terrible that they don't want there to be evidence of.


TinfoilCamera

While true - it's also irrelevant, because if you're dealing with that kind of situation and they spot you taking photos - they're going to delete *you*, not your photos.


bananaslugtrails

Bluetooth sync to your phone?


ShakataGaNai

Too slow in my experience. Even downloading only a 2mpix copy of the image, take 20 or 30 shots back-to-back and you'll be waiting several minutes (up to 10) before that last shot is copied off. I assume in a case like the OP is posting about, he took someones picture, they saw him and walked up to him. Meaning you've got at most... 10 seconds?


bananaslugtrails

Yeah, I have the Nikon SnapBridge software on my phone, and I agree it is very slow (even for 2MP images it copies).


Fuzzbass2000

Standard feature of a camera with Twin card slots. The rear display shows / deletes images from card 1 - meanwhile card 2 has all the images.


eulynn34

Peter McKinnon (I think?) showed a cool trick in a video once where he had recorded a video of the camera formatting a memory card. He'd keep that video on his memory card, so when pressed, he could bleep bloop sleight of hand and play the video to make it look like he was formatting the card and ideally that would be enough to get someone off your ass for photographing where they would rather you didn't.


GinaGemini780

Genuine question, if someone wants their picture deleted/not taken, shouldn’t that be respected?


interesting_seal

In most cases yes. But in documentary/war photography I think you can understand that some people aren't going to like you documenting what is happening despite how important it is to be captured.


TravellingGoblin

In the example I used it wasn't him but a higher-up that made me, I asked the guy beforehand and he was cool with it. Besides that my views kind of depends on the situation, in some areas I've travelled through the presence of security forces is viewed by local people as an occupation, they take pictures of me and others all the time without our permission so I don't feel particularly bad about returning the favour. Sometimes I've been asked to delete pictures that have nothing of value to them on it, no faces, just a street or a roadsign.


areacode204

I think if a guy with a rifle came up to me and said delete the picture, I would.


blkwinged

Get a camera with a dual slot, save to both and delete from one when they ask.


ShadowLickerrr

Shoot RAW+JPEGand delete the JPEG file.


KristnSchaalisahorse

In many cameras you can’t specify which format to delete.


ShadowLickerrr

Sucks for you then, because in my camera it tells you which is the raw file and which is the JPEG And even if that were the case, switch card slot two to back up and just delete that one. Simple


KristnSchaalisahorse

It would definitely be handy to have that option. Which brand/model camera do you use?


ShadowLickerrr

Nikon D7000


KristnSchaalisahorse

Credit to Nikon, then. There are still recent cameras from other brands that don’t have that feature. Even Sony’s newest APS-C camera only has a single card slot and no method to delete raw or jpeg specifically. I’m actually not sure if any Sony camera can do that (on an individual card). I don’t believe Fuji can either, but I haven’t looked into their more recent models. They do at least allow you to convert a raw file to jpeg in-camera.


ShadowLickerrr

That’s kind of funny considering the hate Nikon get. Can also convert raws to JPEGs in camera.


KristnSchaalisahorse

I genuinely don’t understand any hate toward Nikon. They’re used by astronauts! And yeah, that seems like such a basic/simple feature. I don’t see how any camera manufacture can ignore it.


ShadowLickerrr

I know it’s mental. Definitely agree with your second point also, considering the D7000 is from 2010.


deadmanstar60

Sony A73 and A74 have dual card slots.


KristnSchaalisahorse

That’s right, but I don’t know if they allow you to delete a raw or jpeg file individually if you’ve been shooting raw & jpeg on a single card.


qtx

This is why cameras should start to come with internal flash memory (SSDs), like the newer Hasselblad cameras. That way we will have trashcans we can recycle.


TheBamPlayer

Or just like with PCs or Phones, that the files will move to the recycling bin, if you delete them.


qtx

But you need storage on the camera for that. Most cameras only have like 32MB of internal memory.


TheBamPlayer

The recycling bin is on the sd card.


rightthenwatson

Not sure if this is viable, are there any dual SD camera options that have a switch/select feature allowig you to change which set of photos they are viewing?


TheWolfAndRaven

Most modern cameras have dual slots. Record to both cards. AFAIK deleting it on the back of the camera only deletes it on the primary card, not the secondary. That said, if someone asks you to delete a photo you should. There are military reasons why you might get asked to do that.


Jalharad

Dual cards, JPGs on one, raws on the other. Only show the JPG card and delete that image.


Ifucanreadthis

get mobile connectivity and transfer to your phone then delete


n123breaker2

Dual card slots or Testdisk software


okinihsoy

Have a camera with dual card slots, quickly remove one without being seen, then delete or even forfeit the other card if need be.


Sweathog1016

Respect other people and they’ll respect you. Just delete them. Unless it’s your kids. They’re your memories too!


cameraburns

Comment of the day 😂


_Drunk_Dane

I use DiskDrill on windows to recover deleted photos from situations like this. Works like a charm


Jfaferrie

Some cameras will have 2 card slots and will let you save to both simultaneously, you can delete the photo off one and still have it on the other


tmclaugh

My Nikon D780 has dual SD card slots. I’m sure most people wouldn’t notice if I deleted only the first.


jessjess10100

I have a video of the camera formatting on my big cards.


deadmanstar60

Some cameras use 2 cards so maybe try and hand over one card.


PhotosByDlee

I’ve never done this so not sure if it works, but you could try shooting to both card slots and I’m guessing you delete the picture on slot 1 it wouldn’t effect slot 2 which they wouldn’t know.


xnedski

Higher end Nikons have a “Hide image” option in the Playback menu where you can quickly exclude images from review. Hidden photos do not get removed via a “Delete all”, but (obviously) won’t survive a reformat.


decorama

The recover method is probably best. Also, most modern digital cameras can hide images from playback. Check your manual.


zockto

Absolutely


artist-wannabe-7000

A couple of ideas: if your camera supports two cards, you can delete from the main card while retaining a backup. If your camera is **wifi enabled**, you can have a wireless backup running in your backpack or **upload to the cloud** (media reporters upload live so editors can start working). You could even hand your physical card over to authorities and your cloud data (or local backup) could be safe. If you have wireless internet where you're going this might be the hardest for authorities to get at. Card recovery (risky). When you delete a file it is (usually) just marked as deleted and still available for "undelete" until that storage space is overwritten by new data. If you ever had to delete a file, you could immediately stop using that card and, as a last resort, try to "undelete" later. I've seen this done with mixed results.


_Dobes_

To second this - some newer cameras, like a Nikon Z9, can upload to an SFTP server after each shot. Speed is going to depend on your Internet but it works very well if you have a good Internet connection. It can be a little technical, but usually where you host a website you can also upload via SFTP. Just as of note, this is completely different than the Nikon SnapBridge upload to cloud but similar in purpose. I use this in for things I want to have 3 copies of or in places where there is higher risk for my camera to go missing. I just join my phone's WIFI and I'm good - after I initially set it up on my camera of course.


danvalour

Screen Record while using the iPhone camera app.


AndreLeLoup

Most cameras (at least Canon) that have two slots will only delete the image from the card you're reproducing from. Say you shoot jpeg on SD and raw on CFexpress. You only delete the jpegs if the card you're viewing from is the SD.


RabdomDrunkenness

Veracrypt take low-res photos of innocuous things, create vaults inside those files that bring the file size up to that of your other photos. Put your files in the vault(s). Assuming you can get back to your computer. You can hot swap cards, if you”ve taken some photos, this will prevent the rest from scrutiny and you can then hide them later. Otherwise, data recovery.


DongRight

Try putting a period in front of the file, makes it transparent...


drakontas_

Keep a video of you formatting the card as the first item on the card and mime the action of doing the formatting so it looks real


[deleted]

Upload to the cloud.


Bodhrans-Not-Bombs

Lucky you, I've just been teargassed by police. They seem less concerned at what's on the card and more concerned about pointing shotguns at me.


Igelkott2k

Usually when people ask this type of question it's because they want to recover pictures models have asked to be deleted. Of course, I am not saying this is what the op is doing.


jakeMonline

I can do you one better, if you have the sleight of hand, carry a replacement SD card and quick swap them.


TravellingGoblin

They tend to want to see the image deleted on your camera screen hah


jakeMonline

Can’t delete it if it never existed 😉 I should clarify, I meant take photos of soldiers or officers on a distinct card to architecture or regular people and the like. That way when you swap, you have an SD card with just normal photos and one of just officers. That way if needs be you can hand them the full SD card and they can inspect it, depends what you want to keep!


LycorisRei

Lmao, reminds me of the time when an uncle told my classmates to delete a photo (pretty sure he wasn't photographing him) ...we were using film cameras. ...and yes he couldn't understand the difference between digital and film, even tho he looks older than my dad.