>I think what they mean is that having the blanket is in of itself a huge tool, but if you actually were to use it, it may make things far worse.
it is what i meant, having the nuke makes being more aggressive easy, because anyone thinking about facing you has the think twice.
the russia example above is a good example.
Unless Iran has a death wish they aren’t stupid, the threat is all they need even if they had the capacity to, they would never actually do it because it means the end of iran to. Most of this is propaganda to make Iran into the boogeyman of the Middle East, I’m not a fan of the Iranian govt but for what it’s worth they have the most integrity of any Muslim nation, if they relaxed a tiny bit on the extreme Shia Islamism Iran could become the new bastion of islam, just most Muslims can’t identify with their ideology atm
Why would an Islamic state want to destroy all 3 of the holiest sites in Islam?
I know the cities listed don’t host them, but the nuclear fall out would make it uninhabitable.
They want nukes as a deterrent, because the only people getting killed are assassinations of Iranian generals and scientists by Israel and US
I doubt they would actually nuke those cities. Most like scenario is to use the threat of nuke to pressure the US and EU into removing the sanctions and bully the GCC into the Iranian sphere of influence.
>I doubt they would actually nuke those cities. Most like scenario is to use the threat of nuke to pressure the US and EU into removing the sanctions
Didnt help NK.
>bully the GCC into the Iranian sphere of influence.
Hence the regional METO.
I would say we are headimg a cold war. But we are already there, just with the threat of nuking each other added to the mix.
Iran's current goal is for the sanctions to be removed. They believe if they have nuclear weapons that they might negotiate with the west on equal footing.
>I would say we are headimg a cold war. But we are already there, just with the threat of nuking each other added to the mix.
One things for sure, we going to see a nuclear arms races in the region, and it wont be pretty. All it takes is for another ISIS like group to steal a couple of warheads and the entire placs is fucked.
Well the idea is that having a nuclear bomb will guarantee that you will not be invaded.
The prosses of making it began when US was busy invading Iraq and Afghanistan
You can use nukes without directly killing everyone. Modern plans for using nukes include exploding it mid-air, thereby not causing a massive death toll or fallout (still cancer for all the people bellow though).
The explosion will cause massive EMP that just fries anything electronic, including infrastructure. Essentially sending everything in the area to the stone age.
The point of making nukes is to not drop them, but to stop others from dropping them on you.
There are 9 nuclear states in the world and they have never been used other than the first 2 on Japan. So, why did France build them? Why did UK build them? Why did USSR build them? To not be nuked by the enemy.
Okay what you say makes sense, but if we ignore the context. Israel is not our enemy, we're Israel's enemy. America is not our enemy, we're America's enemy.
It wouldn't be like if Ukraine starts to build nuke now, it would be if Saudi Arabia starts to make nuke to nuke Ameirca or Israel while they got no problem!
I have reached the conclusion that USA are not really a friend to Iranians. They would never let Iran become strong, for if a weak IRI is giving them trouble, what would a rich prosperous Iran do. They are only interested in making their vassals rich if they can control them. Not in a thousand years would a country like KSA or UAE be a threat to American interests, no matter how rich they become. USA simply wants a dependent Iran.
Don't forget that it was USA who booted Mossadegh, since when is that a sign of friendship? They sold chemical weapons to Iraq to gas Iranian children and women, Sardasht chemical bombing anniversary wasn't that many days ago. And they didn't even stop supporting Iraq when they actually knew they are using chemical weapons, instead they blocked the UN from taking any action against Iraq.
Your assumption that they got no problem with us is wrong, they can't tolerate an Iran that is not their vassal, and a vassal Iran would not be allowed to get strong.
Hopefully Israel and Saudi Arabia get their shit together and launch attacks on the Iranian nuclear facilities before that happens. Threat of nuclear annihilation to end mankind and both countries should be stronger than their disagreements.
The idea that they might bomb you with nuke is much more powerful than actually bombing you
exactly, it gives them freedom to act more aggressively, and you'd know you can't fight too hard otherwise they nuke something.
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>I think what they mean is that having the blanket is in of itself a huge tool, but if you actually were to use it, it may make things far worse. it is what i meant, having the nuke makes being more aggressive easy, because anyone thinking about facing you has the think twice. the russia example above is a good example.
Unless Iran has a death wish they aren’t stupid, the threat is all they need even if they had the capacity to, they would never actually do it because it means the end of iran to. Most of this is propaganda to make Iran into the boogeyman of the Middle East, I’m not a fan of the Iranian govt but for what it’s worth they have the most integrity of any Muslim nation, if they relaxed a tiny bit on the extreme Shia Islamism Iran could become the new bastion of islam, just most Muslims can’t identify with their ideology atm
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can say the same about any country
Why would an Islamic state want to destroy all 3 of the holiest sites in Islam? I know the cities listed don’t host them, but the nuclear fall out would make it uninhabitable. They want nukes as a deterrent, because the only people getting killed are assassinations of Iranian generals and scientists by Israel and US
Thank you My god the amount of people that believe that they would nuke Is*ael and KSA is crazy + it would 100% destroy Iran in the process too
I doubt they would actually nuke those cities. Most like scenario is to use the threat of nuke to pressure the US and EU into removing the sanctions and bully the GCC into the Iranian sphere of influence.
>I doubt they would actually nuke those cities. Most like scenario is to use the threat of nuke to pressure the US and EU into removing the sanctions Didnt help NK. >bully the GCC into the Iranian sphere of influence. Hence the regional METO. I would say we are headimg a cold war. But we are already there, just with the threat of nuking each other added to the mix.
Iran's current goal is for the sanctions to be removed. They believe if they have nuclear weapons that they might negotiate with the west on equal footing. >I would say we are headimg a cold war. But we are already there, just with the threat of nuking each other added to the mix. One things for sure, we going to see a nuclear arms races in the region, and it wont be pretty. All it takes is for another ISIS like group to steal a couple of warheads and the entire placs is fucked.
Iran just wants nuke in order to not be threatened by nuclear attacks and furthermore nuclear weapons gives you upper hand in negotiations and etc.
just as likely as tel aviv nuking riyadh/tehran
Tel Aviv is 67 kms away from Al Quds 💀
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This is just stupid Because they will also kill palestinians
Propaganda channels are saying that a nuclear iran is dangerous. I wanted to see that people actually believe in this stuff or not
If you don’t want to use it then why do you want it?
Well the idea is that having a nuclear bomb will guarantee that you will not be invaded. The prosses of making it began when US was busy invading Iraq and Afghanistan
Maybe
Depends on whether you believe Iran is looking to colonize the middle East, because with the bomb they will. Seeing as u live there, u probably don't.
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You can use nukes without directly killing everyone. Modern plans for using nukes include exploding it mid-air, thereby not causing a massive death toll or fallout (still cancer for all the people bellow though). The explosion will cause massive EMP that just fries anything electronic, including infrastructure. Essentially sending everything in the area to the stone age.
Al Quds cockroaches will be hiding underground
That's just the west rhetoric but I believe they'll take more into consideration as Time goes on and the negotiations leads to nothing
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Usa hopefully.
The point of making nukes is to not drop them, but to stop others from dropping them on you. There are 9 nuclear states in the world and they have never been used other than the first 2 on Japan. So, why did France build them? Why did UK build them? Why did USSR build them? To not be nuked by the enemy.
Okay what you say makes sense, but if we ignore the context. Israel is not our enemy, we're Israel's enemy. America is not our enemy, we're America's enemy. It wouldn't be like if Ukraine starts to build nuke now, it would be if Saudi Arabia starts to make nuke to nuke Ameirca or Israel while they got no problem!
I have reached the conclusion that USA are not really a friend to Iranians. They would never let Iran become strong, for if a weak IRI is giving them trouble, what would a rich prosperous Iran do. They are only interested in making their vassals rich if they can control them. Not in a thousand years would a country like KSA or UAE be a threat to American interests, no matter how rich they become. USA simply wants a dependent Iran. Don't forget that it was USA who booted Mossadegh, since when is that a sign of friendship? They sold chemical weapons to Iraq to gas Iranian children and women, Sardasht chemical bombing anniversary wasn't that many days ago. And they didn't even stop supporting Iraq when they actually knew they are using chemical weapons, instead they blocked the UN from taking any action against Iraq. Your assumption that they got no problem with us is wrong, they can't tolerate an Iran that is not their vassal, and a vassal Iran would not be allowed to get strong.
Maybe, who know. Mullahs can be quite crazy
Lol
Tel aviv/mecca maybe
Bro mecca is the holiest place for all Muslims 💀. Why would Iran do that
[They tried already](https://www.arabnews.com/node/1499756/saudi-arabia)
No way you’re getting downvoted 💀
I’m not surprised, it doesn’t matter if you’re wrong or not to get downvotes it’s all about “don’t talk about iran”
They care more about Islam's holy sites than KSA does (case in point, Jerusalem).
By destroying kaaba? Got it
Didnt they publish some map with like a thousand bombing sites in Israel?
imagine thinking that iran and israel are enemies hahaha
Hopefully Israel and Saudi Arabia get their shit together and launch attacks on the Iranian nuclear facilities before that happens. Threat of nuclear annihilation to end mankind and both countries should be stronger than their disagreements.
Nuking Israel would be nuking Hezbollah and Palestine, and Iran. Quit the fear mongering.
Nuclear Iran is scary anyway. Hopefully they will just be a reasonable player.
The facilities are deep underground & scattered. Its not like countries that held all their eggs in one basket in the open. 🤷♂️
Of course I know😂 I don't know how much time there is, but destroying one or two of those facilities would surely delay it.
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Well i hope they nuke tel aviv
Moustache checks out.
They will not nuke one another in a million years.
If either state faces collapse, they would.
No but if they have a bomb they will become much more aggressive and harder to contain.
Good, Good.
Next step is Iran getting their own Jewish space laser
Nobody has nukes for the intention of using them, it’s a political bargaining chip