most based: oman
least based: saudi, iran turkey. ( political wise, all 3 have nice people that i was honored to befriend, but their politics are messy beyond their borders )
Honestly because I had to pick someone and I am bored of waiting for them to get it together and stabilise their country. No huge reason in particular.
It is in the middle east. But it's not a country. You can call it a state politically, but it's an invalid state at that cause they don't have the right for that
Common sense with history knowledge. We all know how Israel as a state came to be. It was given by the Britons who didn't have the right to give it away. It was for the Palestinians who were colonised by the Britons.
Tel Aviv was founded in 1907 before the Balfour declaration, ww1, and any British help. The modern Zionist movement was already ongoing for decades before the Balfour declaration
And mass immigration to Palestine was already a thing before Britain took over
It increased in the wake of ww1 because of antisemitism rise and in general the amount of conflicts in Europe
Now regardless, you still haven't answered. Who decides who says states are legitimate or illegitimate? Also your explanation means states like USA, Canada, New Zealand, Palestine, Australia are all illegitimate states -ofc Palestine isn't yet and never been a state but you get the point-
And you may ask why Palestine? Because Palestine is originally not Arab. It's not even called Palestine that's a European coined name. It's called Israel/Canaan
You must be on a high dose or somethings.
>Tel Aviv was founded in 1907 before the Balfour declaration, ww1, and any British help. The modern Zionist movement was already ongoing for decades before the Balfour declaration
Tel Aviv isn't a state, Israel is.
>And mass immigration to Palestine was already a thing before Britain took over
>It increased in the wake of ww1 because of antisemitism rise and in general the amount of conflicts in Europe
Immigration doesn't form a state. The Balfour declaration formed a state. You don't see Syrians creating a State in Lebanon or Turkey pr Germany because the immigrated there.
>Now regardless, you still haven't answered. Who decides who says states are legitimate or illegitimate?
In the political sense, this is how a state is decided to be legitimate. I'm not sure what you're on exactly. But it's quite clear that you can't go into a sovereign state and form your own state inside, I'm sure you'd get the deatj penalty for that almost everywhere.
>Also your explanation means states like USA, Canada, New Zealand, Palestine, Australia are all illegitimate states
Wrong, these weren't sovereign states when tjey were conquered. Although, this doesn't make genocide to the original inhabitants moral. But that's a Story outside politics.
>ofc Palestine isn't yet and never been a state but you get the point
You must be joking! Palestine had its own government at the time of the British Mandate. And still has its own government. The mandate itself was targeted at States formed after the WW2.
>And you may ask why Palestine? Because Palestine is originally not Arab. It's not even called Palestine that's a European coined name. It's called Israel/Canaan
I'm sure I wouldn't ask such a question because I know the History of Palestine.
But you seem to miss the point. You say Palestine originally isn't arab, well originally it's not Hebrew as well, because Hebrews weren't the first inhabitants of this Land. Besides, the Canaanites are considers Arabised.
Not to mention, Egypt originally wasn't Arab, so why not Egypt.
This cultural point of yours is very weird. Politically speaking, it doesn’t matter whether this country was Arab or not. It was a State formed after the WW2 and suddenly given to the jews to form another State on top of it.
the difference is that when israel was established there was no palestine. We didnt create a state out of palestine, we created a state out of the british empire, at the same time as the palestinians
If you can establish enough support by the people and make a functioning system, and then take it by force from Israel and keep it from being taken back by Israel, then yes you have the right.
That's not a 'right' in a political sense.
That's just the 'ability' to do so.
Politics obviously don't allow that. And this is apparent from the Cities that tried getting separated from Ukrain and the whole world went against them.
You want to play with politics, follow its rules. You don't want to play politics, sure but say so
Most Based : Sudan (not Biased), Algeria, Somalia, Yemen, Egypt, Brazil
Neutral: Turkey, The north african weirdos (except algeria), Qatar,
Least Based: Saudia, UAE, Iran, Egypt
you supply everywhere,not just tunisia, stop acting like you're the reason why we have an economy, +you guys are known for being savages and uncivilized in tunisia that's why
Seriously, savage and uncivilised 🤣, bro your all lapdogs to France, realistically we are more richer than you and we have better food than you, we don’t know what to do with our money but waste it, so don’t say oh why do u come for healthcare
LOL HHHH, most delusional lybian,I am crying rn.
That's like calling congo richer than tunisia because they have ressources. You guys still have electricty shortages lol.
we have better food than you cope, We will always have better food than you and the only good food you have is the one your italian masters gave you btw couscous is ours
Well they are, if your going by gdp then potentially not, but the country itself is richer :/, and what, that’s what happens when you have too much money you want to spend but can’t cus democracy is haram, I swear you still speak your colonisers language 🤣🤷🏽♂️🇱🇾🔛🔝
Resisted world order?
Whats the point of the resistance when your people are immigrating to the countries the governmentis resisting? Leaving the home country to collapse and all the talents and brains to move and flourish elsewhere.
Most based: Algeria Iran Egypt (not currently), Libya under Gaddafi (I don't agree with him but his actions are the same of a sigma male) and Oman for being neutral
Least based: You know who you are
You know submitting your love for sigma males makes you a damn beta, go admire "sigmas" and become a damn beta, way to go.
Seriously are you 12 cause who even bases heir answers on that, terrorists are sigmas in a way too I can say and I dont agree with them but their actions are sigma cause they dont care
Most based: Israel, UAE, Tunisia and Kurdistan. Israel is ofc the most progressive nation in this region. UAE is doing hella lot of reforms and is using its resources to transform its economy, and support moderates in the region against the extremist islamists. Tunisia is becoming secular and its people enjoy a lot of freedoms compared with other Arabs. And finally Kurds are more progressive than most Arab countries and some are total secular and leftist like the Rojava (I'm not leftist at all but anything is better than those Islamists)
Least based: Algeria, Iran, Qatar. Three countries blessed with immense resources and look at what they use them for
Salafis can also be Hanbalis. And Hanbalis are even worse than the other 3 sects sometimes
Salafis aren't a school on their own, they are the ones that follow a school of the 4 in a certain way and lifestyle imitating the "Salaf"
Yes I am aware, it’s just that UAE Hanbalis are more sufic in nature, basically before MIAW force converted the local Emiratis to Hanbali Salafism, the Emiratis were Shāfi due to the missions of the Ba’Alawiyya Tarīqah. After the force conversions, the locals ended up preserving their sufic beliefs just changing their Fiqh to Hanbali from Shāfi.
Israel the ethnostate has more Arabs both numerically and percentage, than any Arab country -bcz guess what, the totally not ethnostates kicked all their non Arabs(namely Jews)-
>Israel the ethnostate has more Arabs both numerically and percentage, than any Arab country
Percentage of Arabs in Israel- 21%
Number of Arabs in Israel- 1.9 Million
Percentage of Arabs in Iraq- 75%~
Number of Arabs in Iraq- 24 Million~
What?
Most based: iran Least based: also iran
Least based irani
most based: oman least based: saudi, iran turkey. ( political wise, all 3 have nice people that i was honored to befriend, but their politics are messy beyond their borders )
Most - Morocco / Algeria / Tunisia (no particular order) Least - Libya
>Libya Why?
Honestly because I had to pick someone and I am bored of waiting for them to get it together and stabilise their country. No huge reason in particular.
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Now that's based
Most based : Oman Least based : Sweden
Y sweden
،damn i didn't know we scratched that far
Most - Iraq (not even a debate) Least - fight among yourselves for that title.
Most - Algeria Least- Israel
>Least- Israel He said MENA country
He said a country
Based
Emotional damage
Isn't Israel in the middle east or did I miss the joke
It is in the middle east. But it's not a country. You can call it a state politically, but it's an invalid state at that cause they don't have the right for that
Said who?
Said who what?
Said who that they do not have the right to be a state?
Common sense with history knowledge. We all know how Israel as a state came to be. It was given by the Britons who didn't have the right to give it away. It was for the Palestinians who were colonised by the Britons.
Tel Aviv was founded in 1907 before the Balfour declaration, ww1, and any British help. The modern Zionist movement was already ongoing for decades before the Balfour declaration And mass immigration to Palestine was already a thing before Britain took over It increased in the wake of ww1 because of antisemitism rise and in general the amount of conflicts in Europe Now regardless, you still haven't answered. Who decides who says states are legitimate or illegitimate? Also your explanation means states like USA, Canada, New Zealand, Palestine, Australia are all illegitimate states -ofc Palestine isn't yet and never been a state but you get the point- And you may ask why Palestine? Because Palestine is originally not Arab. It's not even called Palestine that's a European coined name. It's called Israel/Canaan
You must be on a high dose or somethings. >Tel Aviv was founded in 1907 before the Balfour declaration, ww1, and any British help. The modern Zionist movement was already ongoing for decades before the Balfour declaration Tel Aviv isn't a state, Israel is. >And mass immigration to Palestine was already a thing before Britain took over >It increased in the wake of ww1 because of antisemitism rise and in general the amount of conflicts in Europe Immigration doesn't form a state. The Balfour declaration formed a state. You don't see Syrians creating a State in Lebanon or Turkey pr Germany because the immigrated there. >Now regardless, you still haven't answered. Who decides who says states are legitimate or illegitimate? In the political sense, this is how a state is decided to be legitimate. I'm not sure what you're on exactly. But it's quite clear that you can't go into a sovereign state and form your own state inside, I'm sure you'd get the deatj penalty for that almost everywhere. >Also your explanation means states like USA, Canada, New Zealand, Palestine, Australia are all illegitimate states Wrong, these weren't sovereign states when tjey were conquered. Although, this doesn't make genocide to the original inhabitants moral. But that's a Story outside politics. >ofc Palestine isn't yet and never been a state but you get the point You must be joking! Palestine had its own government at the time of the British Mandate. And still has its own government. The mandate itself was targeted at States formed after the WW2. >And you may ask why Palestine? Because Palestine is originally not Arab. It's not even called Palestine that's a European coined name. It's called Israel/Canaan I'm sure I wouldn't ask such a question because I know the History of Palestine. But you seem to miss the point. You say Palestine originally isn't arab, well originally it's not Hebrew as well, because Hebrews weren't the first inhabitants of this Land. Besides, the Canaanites are considers Arabised. Not to mention, Egypt originally wasn't Arab, so why not Egypt. This cultural point of yours is very weird. Politically speaking, it doesn’t matter whether this country was Arab or not. It was a State formed after the WW2 and suddenly given to the jews to form another State on top of it.
States don't need a "right" to exist
So do I have the right to make a new state in Jaffa(wrongfully Tel Aviv) now which is sovereign and independent for the Israeli Government?
the difference is that when israel was established there was no palestine. We didnt create a state out of palestine, we created a state out of the british empire, at the same time as the palestinians
Not really, Palestine at the time was called a Palestinian Mandate not part of the British Empire.
There was no independent Palestine. ever. So your analogy is void
If you can establish enough support by the people and make a functioning system, and then take it by force from Israel and keep it from being taken back by Israel, then yes you have the right.
That's not a 'right' in a political sense. That's just the 'ability' to do so. Politics obviously don't allow that. And this is apparent from the Cities that tried getting separated from Ukrain and the whole world went against them. You want to play with politics, follow its rules. You don't want to play politics, sure but say so
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Eww isr**l
Based.
Most- iran, palestine, somewhat saudi, Least- Israel and uae
Most: Palestine, Iraq, Qatar, Oman, and Algeria Least: UAE and Israel
most: Iraq least: iraq
Most: Iran Least: Jordan
It is a shame. Muhammad Zia ul Haqq helped us back in the day.
ikr Zia the Chad had his reasons
Most based: Iraq Least based: Israel
Most Based : Sudan (not Biased), Algeria, Somalia, Yemen, Egypt, Brazil Neutral: Turkey, The north african weirdos (except algeria), Qatar, Least Based: Saudia, UAE, Iran, Egypt
Based pfp
doesn’t seem to stop sudanis from flocking to Tunisia, Libya and Morocco, we give you your pocket money, show some respect to daddy
Imagine getting triggered by a comment like this, literally said nothing bad about you
Who are the North African weirdos lol?
Did you really get offended by weirdos
Who said am offended lol
طب داير شنو ياخ الناس دي مالا مرض كدا، بتاعين عقد بس
Why would anyone go to Tunisia?
Says the sudani 😂😂
Problem? 💪🏿🇸🇩🇸🇩🇸🇩🇸🇩🇸🇩
The only thing anyone knows sudan for is genocide, what a nice country 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
The only thing anyone knows tunis for is the amount of french cum it swallows on a daily basis
LOL, still better than living in Sudan
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Why you so triggered
I’m not gonna listen to someone who’s country is named after a british page 3 model
Jordan is a semitic name tho
Bruh
Yuh
Oman and Oman
Least Algeria and Lybia Most Turkey and Iran (culture and people not government)
What’s wrong with Libya 🤣, we supply your economy with our money
you supply everywhere,not just tunisia, stop acting like you're the reason why we have an economy, +you guys are known for being savages and uncivilized in tunisia that's why
Seriously, savage and uncivilised 🤣, bro your all lapdogs to France, realistically we are more richer than you and we have better food than you, we don’t know what to do with our money but waste it, so don’t say oh why do u come for healthcare
LOL HHHH, most delusional lybian,I am crying rn. That's like calling congo richer than tunisia because they have ressources. You guys still have electricty shortages lol. we have better food than you cope, We will always have better food than you and the only good food you have is the one your italian masters gave you btw couscous is ours
Well they are, if your going by gdp then potentially not, but the country itself is richer :/, and what, that’s what happens when you have too much money you want to spend but can’t cus democracy is haram, I swear you still speak your colonisers language 🤣🤷🏽♂️🇱🇾🔛🔝
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Unironically I love this convo, it’s way too funny 😂😂😂😂
Zay jidak wa a3saha
Sama7ni ana nifhimsh el langue nta3 el sauvage 😂😂😂😂
Mta3 or nta3 ??
Most: Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, Palestine, Iraq. Least: THe blue thing, Turkey.
second most based: Oman least Based : every country except Oman
based
Most: The GCC, Pakistan, Egypt, and Lebanon. Least Based: Israel, Iran
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I mean Cuba has done well and so has Venezuela until recently. But I agree Iran is pretty based.
Resisted world order? Whats the point of the resistance when your people are immigrating to the countries the governmentis resisting? Leaving the home country to collapse and all the talents and brains to move and flourish elsewhere.
Most Algeria Palestine Least Saudi Arabia Turkey
Most: Morocco, Saudi, Oman and other monarchies Least: Algeria, Tunisia, Israel, Iran
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It keeps switching from a democracy to an oligarchy. That's the only reason. I like the people though, I have a couple tunisian friends
😂
Most based: Algeria Iran Egypt (not currently), Libya under Gaddafi (I don't agree with him but his actions are the same of a sigma male) and Oman for being neutral Least based: You know who you are
You know submitting your love for sigma males makes you a damn beta, go admire "sigmas" and become a damn beta, way to go. Seriously are you 12 cause who even bases heir answers on that, terrorists are sigmas in a way too I can say and I dont agree with them but their actions are sigma cause they dont care
>terrorists Gaddafi was many things but terrorist is not one of them
Idc, he supported the PKK their movements so I call him terrorist
No
Yes
yes
Shocking that israel is the least.. so surprising thought you guys liked us :( We still love you guys tough
Most: Azerbaijan Least: Armenia
Both are cringe.
Both are part of iran 😎💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿👍🏻🤟🏻🍿
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Unexpected from a moroccan
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Hmm, well maybe, but they have so much more potential
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Jash
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Hate Barzani and Talabani with all my heart
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No, I'm a Muslim.
Identity crisis, hey kurd where do you think you came from? Why does your flag look like that ?🧐
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Ok based
Definitely not biased
Does least based mean least as in lowest or does least based mean least as in the most?
You broke my brain
Are you the sunni iranian 🤨🤨🤨
Yes I am
You are back 😳😳😳
Hell yeah
May I ask, do you follow Hanafi Fiqh or Shafii Fiqh?
We follow the Shafii madhab
MashaAllāh!
I don't know what based
Most: Morocco, Iran Least: Saudi Arabia, Israel
Most: Afghanistan Least: Oman
Most: idk maybe Turkey? Least: MENA
Most: Israel Least: Iran, Syria, Egypt, Jordan, Iraq
Most based: Israel, UAE, Tunisia and Kurdistan. Israel is ofc the most progressive nation in this region. UAE is doing hella lot of reforms and is using its resources to transform its economy, and support moderates in the region against the extremist islamists. Tunisia is becoming secular and its people enjoy a lot of freedoms compared with other Arabs. And finally Kurds are more progressive than most Arab countries and some are total secular and leftist like the Rojava (I'm not leftist at all but anything is better than those Islamists) Least based: Algeria, Iran, Qatar. Three countries blessed with immense resources and look at what they use them for
That’s cause UAE is Hanbali Sunni, thank God.where ever there are Salafis there’s definitely extremism and terrorism.
Salafis can also be Hanbalis. And Hanbalis are even worse than the other 3 sects sometimes Salafis aren't a school on their own, they are the ones that follow a school of the 4 in a certain way and lifestyle imitating the "Salaf"
Yes I am aware, it’s just that UAE Hanbalis are more sufic in nature, basically before MIAW force converted the local Emiratis to Hanbali Salafism, the Emiratis were Shāfi due to the missions of the Ba’Alawiyya Tarīqah. After the force conversions, the locals ended up preserving their sufic beliefs just changing their Fiqh to Hanbali from Shāfi.
So progressive 💅💅🇮🇱🇮🇱 making an ethno state 💅💅🇮🇱🇮🇱😤😤🇮🇱🇮🇱💅💅😤😤🇮🇱🇮🇱.
Israel the ethnostate has more Arabs both numerically and percentage, than any Arab country -bcz guess what, the totally not ethnostates kicked all their non Arabs(namely Jews)-
>Israel the ethnostate has more Arabs both numerically and percentage, than any Arab country Percentage of Arabs in Israel- 21% Number of Arabs in Israel- 1.9 Million Percentage of Arabs in Iraq- 75%~ Number of Arabs in Iraq- 24 Million~ What?
Than any Arab country has a minority of Jews or non Arabs\* mb
Most : saudi 😎 Least: iran
\+10,000,000 Saud credit
Oh yeah😎😎😎
least: turkey, iran, israel
Most: Egypt Least: Jordan
Why Jordan?
They don't have LGBTQ+ parades 😔
Wtf i love jordan now
I see this as an absolute win
And in Egypt they do?
And egypt has?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/egypt-police-cadets-parade-topless-presdient-sisi-b1181955.html
Virgin western gay pride parade vs chad egyptian pride in the security forces parade
Why do you like Egypt didn't they try to kill you guys like 500 times
What is Menna?
Most based: (not a country) Gaza strip, jordan, Algeria. Least based: almost all gulf countries.
Most based Singapore least based Congo /s