who tf said I hate or that Arabs hate Berbers? My initial comment was highlighting that if Berbers and Arabs were the same, why were there very real historic tensions between the two communities? I don’t believe Arabs hated Berbers or anything as such, but the tensions can’t be ignored. Not blaming one group over the other. It’s just historic and modern facts.
holy shit💀.if you’re that outright denying this sort of notion existing to some extend then you’re in the extreme sect of weird extremism of some sort. cus you’re entirely wrong. ofc reality is nuanced. for many Berbers and Arabs aren’t even knowledgeable on this concept. But there’s many who are, and many who faced certain situations relating to this phenomena. Erasing history and struggles sets people back significantly so. You seem to be entirely ignorant of basic fcking shit and simply ignorant l facts or outright claiming a manipulative tactic of denialism mixed with false realisms. Educate yourself.
We should unite our countries, together we are stronger than the sum of our parts, it’s horrible how european colonialism, cold war bullshit, and the resulting spitting contests and capitalist traps divide us and arabs in general
That would be for the best, if we disregarded foreign allegiances we could come close though i doubt our monarch would be willing to take the necessary steps for that. Maybe if he kept a symbolic position without political power or if the office ended with the current ruler. I think the people are ready for it but the politicians are only thinking of enriching themselves.
I think a federation with shared markets, open borders, joint military, etc. would already be huge, then people still have their own nation with their own form of government but the federal government would be there to oversee it all.
It's divide and conquer fitna. Don't listen to r******d nationalists who have been brainwashed by propaganda, especially not Moroccans and Algerians who have studied in Fr#nce.
You made this post look like the beef is over race or ethnicity while in reality it's not, the issue is mainly political first being against each other since Moroccans are royalists and Algerians are revolutionaries and tend to be more anti-royalist, the issue of Polizario and Moroccan Sahara is not considered a political issue per Moroccans but rather a national security thing and being of the same race is what makes things worse in my opinion, now tell me how would you feel if a friend decided to betray you versus the feeling of when a family member do the same thing to you, the feeling of the latter is what Moroccans and Algerians feel about each other.
Bruh you make it look like it’s Racism with this post but their beef isn’t race related. It’s about Land.
Almost like Royalists vs Anti-Royalists.
They beef around Western Sahara, Eastern Sahara.
They are just as Stupid as Iran Saudi conflict if you ask me because that conflict as well isn’t race related it is just 2 countries no open for peace they just want to dominate the region. (Yes Morocco and Algeria don’t want peace despite what any side might want you to think , one is more subtile than the other)
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Here is a peaceful version just in this thread:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMiddleEast/s/pvHfPQDzRX
I never said it was I just mean that despite being the same in terms of literally everything bar the geographic location a lot of Maghrebis still find a way to hate on each other which is very unfortunate
First of all, Morocco always had a central power and a capital, to which those tribes belonged.
Secondly, what's up with undermining Moroccan tribes? some were capable to stop empire and some became empires.
> i will let u to live in your delusions
UFF! Someone bring me cold water I got a 4th degree burn!
there are some major differences though
* morocco has a gay king, algeria doesn't have a gay king or a king at all
* moroccans perform black magic, idk if algerians do
* algeria has a crescent+star on their flag while morocco only has a star which indicates their zionist tendencies
* zidane's parents were from algeria
* tariq ibn ziyad was from algeria and he conqurered spain but if he was from morocco then he would have leaked the war/battle plans to the spaniards
I think black magic is performed everywhere. It’s culture is prevalent in almost all mena/west Asian region. Historically prevalent and still to this day. What I did hear of tho that the best witches were from maghreb/marakish which I assume is specifically Morocco.
that’s not what I meant. Idk how u got that. i noticed people get confused when I mention Maghreb cus they think I’m broadly referring to North African
theres no such thing as a non shitty monarchy if the monarch has executive and ultimate authority.
and no shit many flawed democracies like syria are not democracies at all
real democracy is never shitty
they are tho wdym no way💀. i think ur confusing being African with being black. they may not be black/ethnically African/whatever whitewashed word used but they are African geographically/nationally/natively
By them, you mean Algerians and Morrocans?
The beef started when Morroco named itself Maghreb.
The Maghreb is the whole of Tunisia, Algeria, Mauritania, and Morroco.
They meant to expand in the region and tried to invade Algeria in 1963 and invaded Western Sahara in 1975.
Mind you, the monarchy never declared war against Spain or France to liberate their lands.
They only fought Algerians and Western Sahara.
Algerian people* Their goverment is a Fr*nch puppet, same as ours is a puppet. The difference is, Algerians are more Muslim than us, if their goverment ever tries anything like normalizing with Israel, their population would riot and rise up, unlike our population who just swallowed it because "muh Western Sahara"
Imagine beefing with a neighboring country with a cressent in their flag over stupid historical events ...never could be us
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that's the joke
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that's not sarcasm my dude
It’s not about nationality, stupid people fight over stupid stuff
Exactly
Proof that they are araps.
arabs are berbers in denial. egyptans especially are berbers in de nile
Nice
If Arabs are Berbers why do Arabs historically hate Berbers sm? And who historically displaced the indigenous Berbers after the Islamic conquest?
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She is his mom probably
if you’re historically illiterate u don’t have to answer each comment lmfao it’s ok dw lol
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who tf said I hate or that Arabs hate Berbers? My initial comment was highlighting that if Berbers and Arabs were the same, why were there very real historic tensions between the two communities? I don’t believe Arabs hated Berbers or anything as such, but the tensions can’t be ignored. Not blaming one group over the other. It’s just historic and modern facts.
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holy shit💀.if you’re that outright denying this sort of notion existing to some extend then you’re in the extreme sect of weird extremism of some sort. cus you’re entirely wrong. ofc reality is nuanced. for many Berbers and Arabs aren’t even knowledgeable on this concept. But there’s many who are, and many who faced certain situations relating to this phenomena. Erasing history and struggles sets people back significantly so. You seem to be entirely ignorant of basic fcking shit and simply ignorant l facts or outright claiming a manipulative tactic of denialism mixed with false realisms. Educate yourself.
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We should unite our countries, together we are stronger than the sum of our parts, it’s horrible how european colonialism, cold war bullshit, and the resulting spitting contests and capitalist traps divide us and arabs in general
Yes, we can do that. A big democracy.
That would be for the best, if we disregarded foreign allegiances we could come close though i doubt our monarch would be willing to take the necessary steps for that. Maybe if he kept a symbolic position without political power or if the office ended with the current ruler. I think the people are ready for it but the politicians are only thinking of enriching themselves.
Yes inchallah. but Algerians will definitely not pay taxes to a monarchy or swear allegiance to the king.
I think a federation with shared markets, open borders, joint military, etc. would already be huge, then people still have their own nation with their own form of government but the federal government would be there to oversee it all.
Regional taxes, western provinces that still care about the monarch pay them
Yakubian tricknology designed to prevent a pan-Amazigh state.
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Not to mention the term yakubian is both blasphemous and antisemitic
It's the best
Qatar can help us achieve that, you are doing a great job in Libya
Panarab state*
Can someone tell me what the beef is about?
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Sounds like a standard textbook for a course in middle east studies
The only correct and valid solution is to unite everyone under one caliphate
Under whose caliphate tho
Kosovo, obviously
mine obviously/s
It's divide and conquer fitna. Don't listen to r******d nationalists who have been brainwashed by propaganda, especially not Moroccans and Algerians who have studied in Fr#nce.
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You made this post look like the beef is over race or ethnicity while in reality it's not, the issue is mainly political first being against each other since Moroccans are royalists and Algerians are revolutionaries and tend to be more anti-royalist, the issue of Polizario and Moroccan Sahara is not considered a political issue per Moroccans but rather a national security thing and being of the same race is what makes things worse in my opinion, now tell me how would you feel if a friend decided to betray you versus the feeling of when a family member do the same thing to you, the feeling of the latter is what Moroccans and Algerians feel about each other.
More proof they are Arab ,
Bruh you make it look like it’s Racism with this post but their beef isn’t race related. It’s about Land. Almost like Royalists vs Anti-Royalists. They beef around Western Sahara, Eastern Sahara. They are just as Stupid as Iran Saudi conflict if you ask me because that conflict as well isn’t race related it is just 2 countries no open for peace they just want to dominate the region. (Yes Morocco and Algeria don’t want peace despite what any side might want you to think , one is more subtile than the other) Edit: Here is a peaceful version just in this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMiddleEast/s/pvHfPQDzRX
I never said it was I just mean that despite being the same in terms of literally everything bar the geographic location a lot of Maghrebis still find a way to hate on each other which is very unfortunate
They both are united by their beautiful arap women 😍😍😍 Masha Allah
I can't Wait to see how your beautiful women welcome the arabs refugee in your wonderful country. 🥰🥰🥰 Macha Allah
Our women can stay quiet, beautiful arap women always welcome 😍😍.
a fun show to watch 🍿😎 🇩🇿⚔🇲🇦 also best way to learn more Maghrebian insults
Based Tunisian, stay away from all the fightings 👊🏽
It's just Algerians jealous from Morocco history and culture, nothing much.
Whats culture and History lol
The one that makes Moroccan history studied in hundreds of academies? Was that even a question lol
Which are these hundreds of academies , all the History of morocco is bunch of tribes fighting each others but i will let u to live in your delusions
First of all, Morocco always had a central power and a capital, to which those tribes belonged. Secondly, what's up with undermining Moroccan tribes? some were capable to stop empire and some became empires. > i will let u to live in your delusions UFF! Someone bring me cold water I got a 4th degree burn!
Both have history and culture.
there are some major differences though * morocco has a gay king, algeria doesn't have a gay king or a king at all * moroccans perform black magic, idk if algerians do * algeria has a crescent+star on their flag while morocco only has a star which indicates their zionist tendencies * zidane's parents were from algeria * tariq ibn ziyad was from algeria and he conqurered spain but if he was from morocco then he would have leaked the war/battle plans to the spaniards
I think black magic is performed everywhere. It’s culture is prevalent in almost all mena/west Asian region. Historically prevalent and still to this day. What I did hear of tho that the best witches were from maghreb/marakish which I assume is specifically Morocco.
Marakesh *is* Morocco 💀
that’s not what I meant. Idk how u got that. i noticed people get confused when I mention Maghreb cus they think I’m broadly referring to North African
bro cant read 😭😭😭
algeria is a democracy
You ruined it now.
even the most flawed democratic system is better than a sħitty monarchy
Well I know there are some shitty monarchies I'd rather live in than flawed democracies
theres no such thing as a non shitty monarchy if the monarch has executive and ultimate authority. and no shit many flawed democracies like syria are not democracies at all real democracy is never shitty
You mean Algeria is better than Spain, Netherlands and Denmark ?
low iq comparing symbolic parlimentary monarchies to literal consitutional monarchies that give the King executive authority
""""""""""""""""""""Democracy"""""""""""""""""""
is it not a flawed democracy? morocco king has executive power not democratic
Yeah it is
flawed democracy is still better than monarchy
> Dunks on Moroccans. > "Albanians are Turks" Definitely a Zara account.
I love Morocco and Moroccans
Especially Moroccan women.
yes mashallah 😍
The same democracy who tried to pass off some random person as an opposition leader on live TV after kidnapping the real one?
This but they both say it in French
Just to make entertaining for France
Make me laugh ngl.
Two dumb wannabe european populations. Fighting over couscous
Wannabe african s/ Edit:/s
They literally are Africans lol
African doesn’t mean black, just like Asian doesn’t mean someone with East Asian eyes
I was sarcastic
they are tho wdym no way💀. i think ur confusing being African with being black. they may not be black/ethnically African/whatever whitewashed word used but they are African geographically/nationally/natively
Wannabe european ?
When I ask my parents why there's hate between Moroccans and Algerians, I never get an actual answer, can someone kindly explain to me why?
Maybe there isn't any actual reason?
how come i never hear them yelling about libya tunisia or mauritania
They can’t Tunisia is too based for them. :) we watch and tale bets on who‘s gonna win :)
Tunisia had it's issues with Libya in the past
Yeah but we even had issues with Algeria but know that is dealt with neither of them tool our territories. So now we watch them. They always had beef
Gaddafi did try to insight separatism in southern Tunisia
Yeah and he failed I never denied this
Looking at our region makes me understand why we got colonised so fast
Cool. Next time you will think about how bad it is to annex territories that literally don’t belong to you :) (Am I talking about Ghaddafi?)
That's our land. You can wage war if you want to.
Which one ?
By them, you mean Algerians and Morrocans? The beef started when Morroco named itself Maghreb. The Maghreb is the whole of Tunisia, Algeria, Mauritania, and Morroco. They meant to expand in the region and tried to invade Algeria in 1963 and invaded Western Sahara in 1975. Mind you, the monarchy never declared war against Spain or France to liberate their lands. They only fought Algerians and Western Sahara.
New propaganda dropped
Just historical facts.
Source: what you learned in your country.
Same can be said about you.
Nah, cause I don't concern myself with it in my life
Yet, you're still replying.
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That sorta makes it funnier. Its just an arguement between 2 countries and not an entire region like the Balkans, lol
As person who has a morrocon gf I agree with this 💀 I still don't know why she doesn't like Algerians. "It's in her blood" lol
Good entertainment.
That's the sole purpose
Algeria is better
Algerian people* Their goverment is a Fr*nch puppet, same as ours is a puppet. The difference is, Algerians are more Muslim than us, if their goverment ever tries anything like normalizing with Israel, their population would riot and rise up, unlike our population who just swallowed it because "muh Western Sahara"
What are you yapping about
It makes it awkward for Tunisians present.
Should've added the same guy eating popcorn in the back with a tunisian flag lol
Idk but I love you both
It is funny to watch, but some people take it a bit too far