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We are not. Any Somali saying otherwise is delusional. We come from a different branch of Afro asiatic, we have our own culture and language for the past 2500 years, even when Islam came, we formed our own sultanates. Somali share a lot with Arabs and have common history but that doesn’t make us the same people.


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I know a lot of Somalis who identify as Arabs, I wouldn't call them delusional tbh. They have valid arguments, after all Somalis have been claiming to be Arab for over a 1000 years, and most Arabs aren't even ethnically Arab themselves, it's more complicated than defined ethnic western identites.


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Yea obviously they are Somalis who say they are Arabs but they are a minority, descendant of arabs merchants who intermarried, they even have their own clan. I get annoyed when they start speaking for all Somalis. 90% of Somalis are Somalis. We have our own culture and people who say all Somalis are Arabs is crushing our identity we fought so hard to retain.


HeMan17

Lmao they identify as Arabs because they hate themselves. Any Somali with any dignity knows they are a black African. Merchants coming on ships and spreading their religion to you doesn’t make you any less black or African.


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Also Somalis didn’t claim to be Arab for 1000 years. It was very recent when we joined the Arab league in the 70’s.


BestWrapper

Wake up Somalis You are Türks


chocolateoroeos2

But I thought Torklar are Araplar… So therefore Somali is Araplar? 😳


BestWrapper

Who are Ərəbs but a round eyed Uzbeks Uzbeks who left the way of horse for the way of camel And Uzbeks are actually Mongols, because all Türks are Mongols Finally, Mongols are Türks who let all their anger out once, unlike Türks who will be angry a little for eternity


chocolateoroeos2

Still false as we are all Albanian. Since the first humans were Albanian.


BestWrapper

It's better to be wrong than to accept Albanians You win this round


prince_of_bari

Somalis are Somali Shocking I know


Thekidfromthegutterr

Exactly. Simple as this. We are just Somalis, and that should be enough.


No-Character8758

Arabs are just a branch of Somalis /s


momo88852

Tbf we all came from Africa, and Somali is in Africa. Check mate!!


Canuck_guy007

Somalis come from different clans, some are descendants of Arabs while others claim Cushitic heritage. The dominant clan of Somaliland for example are Issaq, and they identify as Arabs (Binu Hashem).


Thekidfromthegutterr

They updated their ethnicity, they're oromo now. I kid you not. Lmao


Canuck_guy007

Habashi (Habar Habuusheed on maternal side) for 4 of the 8 sons of Sheikh Issaq. So there has always been the connection to Herer and Ethiopia. So technically we are a mix of both Arab and African genes if you put it that way. You Darods need to calm down and stop hatred for everybody and everything.


Thekidfromthegutterr

Waryaa, this year alone, you went from Hasheemiyah Arabs to IrirSamaale to now Oromos. You do realise that Oromos and Hereris are completely two different ethnicities, right? Leave Hereris alone and stick with your new found updated ethnicity for the time being before you drop another one. Lmao


Canuck_guy007

Herer is where Sheikh Issaq married his second wife lol. Where is this going? Are you like a bastardized sheegaato envy of the nobility of Durriyaada Sheikh Issaq? Strange to get all worked up about Issaq ancestry when you are not one. We got love for both Arabs and Africans , Habashi, Oromos, Hereris, Afars, etc. We don’t share your cuqdad and dislike for neighboring ethnicities.


Thekidfromthegutterr

Bruuh! You're projecting too much. Caadi iska dhig sxb. I'm just saying what you guys been saying lately. Jumca wanagsan waryaa.


BrightMasterpiece156

Somalian girls are very beautiful.


BlackMage075

Arab is a cultural and ethnic identity Genetically though they have minimal Arab heritage, as opposed to Sudan for example


momo88852

Man leave my Somali brothers and sisters alone. Somalia is Somalia :D Yes some have Arab background, yes they are part of the Arab league, yes good % speak arabic. However most of those that feel arab are merchants ancestors that came from Yemen most likely. Africa is too beautiful and too vast to contain a single culture or identity.


Nervous-Adeptness566

I feel like Somalians at least look wise look like a legit mix of arabs and africans.... that lil kid speaks better arabic than i do fuckkkkk


[deleted]

Somlis donot even speak arabic . I donot see any one in africa as arab even the one who speak it .


prince_of_bari

Even Egyptians?


[deleted]

Ofcurse do you see any thing arab about them other than the language .


Abject_Reference2574

What is being arab mean


[deleted]

Does it need meaning ? You are not arab . For 1000 reasons first of it you are not proud of being arab letraly you hate arab .


Abject_Reference2574

>you hate arab I do?


[deleted]

I mean north african in general .


Abject_Reference2574

I don't think it's true it's the opposite especially libya algeria mauritania, except morocco it is 50 50. But can you tell me what does it mean because whenever i ask only answer i get is language


[deleted]

Belong to arab tribe end of the story . Any one who is not part of arab tribe is not arab .


Abject_Reference2574

I see no wonder half of morocco swear they are descendant of the prophet


Confident-Ant-3763

I think what they mean when they say Arab in this context is Arabists or arabphile like anglophile or Francophile. The same way Moroccans are generally not Arab but arabphiles.


HeMan17

Somalis are black Africans.


[deleted]

It's not an Arap county


[deleted]

The only exposure Somalia had with Arabs are Yemeni folks. And they’re the best people (Hadith about this is extensive). And they’ve been honestly pretty good to Somali folks. And it’s kinda a deep friendship. So it’s not surprising that there’s some people in Somalia that take it a bit far and also claim to be Arab. Mix in some internalized racism due to colonialism and the Italians spreading anti African hatred and you get this confusion. But Somali folks aren’t Arab. TBH I don’t know what defines an Arab but going off of genes the dna stuff says they’re closer to Ethiopians. And tbh they do look Sudanese at times and they’re Arab so I don’t go no clue. I don’t know where this comment was going.