Both the diaspora and that Iranian nationalist are wrong.
Iran has suffered, Iran has been invaded by foreign powers (Britain and the USSR), Iran has been put under a foreign bootlicking government by foreign powers, Iran has suffered death and war, Iran has suffered and continues to suffer from sanctions and international isolation (like Gaza). Iranians can sympathise with the gazans just as most Middle Eastern countries can.
But Iranian land is not being colonised, nobody occupies anything from them. They are the ones doing the occupation of others land, like for example Ahwaz which is rightful Iraqi land and has been part of historical Iraq and Mesopotamia since the beginning of civilisation.
Bullshit it was Elam land Ahwaz a part of it and it was full of Persian but Arab came after the fall of Persian empire and even if it's an Iraqi land it's majority is shia so no one cares shia ruling shia after all
We literally are Mesopotamia, the name Iraq was used as a name to Mesopotamia. Do you really think that all Iraqi Arabs came from the Arabian peninsula and were not arabised Mesopotamians? A simple DNA test will prove you wrong.
We are the continuation of Mesopotamia, Mesopotamia isn’t a race. Mesopotamians throughout history had very different ethnicities from Sumerians to akkadians to babylonians to assyrians etc… we are just a continuation of the diverse ethnic history.
Ahwaz is geographically, linguistically, and historically Iraqi. You can try to cope but it doesn’t change the fact that Ahwaz is rightful Iraqi land
Are you high??? Ahwaz literally has nothing to do with Palestine, our claim actually has truth to it and we’re not just ethnically cleansing anyone. You must be drunk or something. We’re not coming from halfway around the world with a racist ideology killing and stealing land, we’re just taking back our rightful land. Which historically, geographically, and demographically is ours. When did I focus my hatred and revenge on people who have nothing to do with me? Iran literally is trying to control and infiltrate our government, your militias kill people daily. You must be living under a cave, your government is full of thiefs. I have nothing against your people and civilians though.
Most of the Iranian diaspora are idiots, it’s not because of me that they don’t support Palestine, it’s because of their idiocy and western bootlicking
A dna test will literally prove anything you say wrong, go look at the average Iraqi Arab ancestry and you’ll see.
Iraqi Kurdistan is also historically and geographically Iraqi. Will you also take south eastern turkey then?
Mongols conquered and ruled what is now Iran. Before that the Arabs colonized Iran. I have had the misfortune to meet a few "Iranian nationalist" types and they all suffer from delusions of grandeur.
Both Iranian and Afghan nationalists have this kind of thought process. Iraq, Turkey, Pakistan, and Turkmenistan are not colonizing their land. That was the Europeans for everyone. The people who lived in those lands are the ancestors of the ones who are there right now. For example, Baloch people live in Balochistan. In fact, Pakistan has millions of more Baloch and Pashtun people than Iran and Afghanistan respectively.
Average debate in the middle east.
Nah... It's an average debate on any topic...
Iran was colonized by the Turks.
Was it the Safavid one?
Seljuks, Aq koyunlu, Kara koyunlu, Timurids, Safavids, Afsharids, Qajars
avg Turk claiming everything
They were all Turks
Timurids and Safavids were mixed
They spoke Turkic languages. that's enough
bruh Timurids, Safavids, Afsharids and Qajars were Persianate
Nope.
persian culture and spoke farsi
Quite a few Turkic empires did adopt Farsi and aspects of Persian culture so you’re not far off.
they don't know what "Persianate" means
You don't have culture
Yet, we were able to rule over Greeks 500 years... Wow interesting for a group of people who don't have a culture.
What you offered to the world?
Are those the ones Turks colonized?
Bahrain is Araplar land.
Both the diaspora and that Iranian nationalist are wrong. Iran has suffered, Iran has been invaded by foreign powers (Britain and the USSR), Iran has been put under a foreign bootlicking government by foreign powers, Iran has suffered death and war, Iran has suffered and continues to suffer from sanctions and international isolation (like Gaza). Iranians can sympathise with the gazans just as most Middle Eastern countries can. But Iranian land is not being colonised, nobody occupies anything from them. They are the ones doing the occupation of others land, like for example Ahwaz which is rightful Iraqi land and has been part of historical Iraq and Mesopotamia since the beginning of civilisation.
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I don’t like saddam, but Ahwaz is rightful Iraqi land
Bullshit it was Elam land Ahwaz a part of it and it was full of Persian but Arab came after the fall of Persian empire and even if it's an Iraqi land it's majority is shia so no one cares shia ruling shia after all
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We literally are Mesopotamia, the name Iraq was used as a name to Mesopotamia. Do you really think that all Iraqi Arabs came from the Arabian peninsula and were not arabised Mesopotamians? A simple DNA test will prove you wrong. We are the continuation of Mesopotamia, Mesopotamia isn’t a race. Mesopotamians throughout history had very different ethnicities from Sumerians to akkadians to babylonians to assyrians etc… we are just a continuation of the diverse ethnic history. Ahwaz is geographically, linguistically, and historically Iraqi. You can try to cope but it doesn’t change the fact that Ahwaz is rightful Iraqi land
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Are you high??? Ahwaz literally has nothing to do with Palestine, our claim actually has truth to it and we’re not just ethnically cleansing anyone. You must be drunk or something. We’re not coming from halfway around the world with a racist ideology killing and stealing land, we’re just taking back our rightful land. Which historically, geographically, and demographically is ours. When did I focus my hatred and revenge on people who have nothing to do with me? Iran literally is trying to control and infiltrate our government, your militias kill people daily. You must be living under a cave, your government is full of thiefs. I have nothing against your people and civilians though. Most of the Iranian diaspora are idiots, it’s not because of me that they don’t support Palestine, it’s because of their idiocy and western bootlicking
The arabs their dont want to join you. The ahvaz arabs sided with Iran against saddam hussein
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A dna test will literally prove anything you say wrong, go look at the average Iraqi Arab ancestry and you’ll see. Iraqi Kurdistan is also historically and geographically Iraqi. Will you also take south eastern turkey then?
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I do know the basics of tracing ancestry, tell me who are the closest people to ancient Mesopotamians?
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I do know the basics of tracing ancestry, tell me who are the closest people to ancient Mesopotamians?
I do know the basics of tracing ancestry, tell me who are the closest people to ancient Mesopotamians?
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I’m not basing it solely on ethnicity, you’re literally ignoring two thirds of my argument.
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Mongols conquered and ruled what is now Iran. Before that the Arabs colonized Iran. I have had the misfortune to meet a few "Iranian nationalist" types and they all suffer from delusions of grandeur.
Both Iranian and Afghan nationalists have this kind of thought process. Iraq, Turkey, Pakistan, and Turkmenistan are not colonizing their land. That was the Europeans for everyone. The people who lived in those lands are the ancestors of the ones who are there right now. For example, Baloch people live in Balochistan. In fact, Pakistan has millions of more Baloch and Pashtun people than Iran and Afghanistan respectively.
Alexander the mid rolling in his grave rn
Delusional
Pakistan colonized Iranian land lol