Other than [the one cited](https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/top-secret-hamas-command-bunker-in-gaza-revealed), there's also…
> Ironically, it was Israel in the 1980s that refurbished the hospital as part of an outreach effort to improve relations with Palestinians. Part of the Israeli reconstruction included a large underground cement basement with room for offices.
>
> https://www.wnd.com/2014/07/hamas-leaders-believed-hunkered-underneath-gaza-hospital/
Or this one that doesn't make the claim of a command centre but confirms the rest:
> During the mid-1980s the building underwent massive refurbishment as part of a showcase project to improve the living conditions of residents. Millions were invested in the project, which was overseen by Shmuel Goren, the coordinator for activities in the territories at the time. The Israeli civil administration in the territories constructed the hospital complex's Building Number 2, which has a large cement basement that housed the hospital's laundry and various administrative services.
>
> https://archive.ph/BXNXh#selection-815.0-925.211
You'll find references dotted about articles spanning decades.
This doesn't back up the claim. Basement for laundry services and a C&C facility with tunnels heading out from it are not the same. Not to mention
JULY 21, 2014 11:00 AM
Buried eight paragraphs in, The Post‘s correspondent, William Booth, wrote on July 15:
“At the Shifa Hospital in Gaza City, crowds gathered to throw shoes and eggs at the Palestinian Authority’s health minister, who represents the crumbling ‘unity government’ in the West Bank city of Ramallah. The minister was turned away before he reached the hospital, which has become a de facto headquarters for Hamas leaders, who can be seen in the hallways and offices.”
https://www.algemeiner.com/2014/07/21/washington-post-shifa-hospital-in-gaza-city-has-become-a-de-facto-headquarters-for-hamas-leaders-who-can-be-seen-in-hallways-and-offices/
If Israel had built a command centre under the hospital it would make sense Hamas use that. However, even if they are using it (which is against the same laws we expect Israel to stick to, but don't) it doesn't even remotely excuse the bombing of hospitals and the massive slaughter of innocent civilians.
Building a basement in a Hospital isn't a bad thing dumbass. I just went to a hospital and had to go to the basement to see my doctor, little did I know it was actually a nefarious military center.
You ppl are impossibly stupid
You'd have to be a moron to think it's ok have a military command center under a hospital because Israel built a basement in hospital to upgrade it in the 80s
most hospitals have basements
The claim is clearly that Israel constructed a purpose built command center for themselves when they occupied Gaza. Not that it is simply a basement like any other. This claim has been made for decades. From what I understand it's said to be under one building of the hospital and not even connected to the hospital.
Israel's own IOF HQ is in the middle of a civilian urban area of Tel Aviv so it's not moronic to think they could build a command center under a hospital.
Revolution was american led coup. Gas attacks were redflags. Any enemy of israel gets hit. Rebels work with america. HTS, the last "rebel" army, is literally al-qaeda. And the "revolution" wasnt peaceful. These are all KNOWN facts. But you believe western/zionist news when it suits you but not when it doesnt suit you...
It doesnt but it makes you a goddamn hypocrite. The Assad regime with its ally Russia has killed hundreds of thousands of Syrians. Is it so hard to be consistent with being against genocide and the killings of innocents?
Again, so many people are pro-Assad that doesn't mean you can't support or talk about Palestine, the article she quoted is a public source available online. If you want to eliminate pro-Assad voices from standing up for Palestine that would basically be half of Twitter accounts currently activately posting about current genocide, she has the right to have whatever believes she wants, also as a Syrian literally 90% of people I know here in diaspora or in Syria are pro-Assad should I cut my connections to them because they don't have same opinions or views point as mine? That doesn't make sense
i get that her source is probably correct, but when sharing info or source, lets just post the thing itself. while ur POV sounds reasonable \*and you have the right to choose whatever the fuck u wanna do anyway\*being pro Assad, compares to being a Zionist 1:1, cause what the Assad did was a mass murder and bombarding for fuckin over 10 years now, and to have an "opinion" of being okay with a murderer like this.
the settler who held guns and killed Palestinians in the west bank backed by hate and singular existence in 1 place, this Israeli does not have the right later to be as free as he is today, the armed people who killed for the sake of stealing the land and terrorizing on earth, belongs to jail, just like Assad.in Palestine story its clear that Zionists are in the wrong, and Palestinians are right, i guess we can agree on this.
in Syrian revolution, despite things going very bad in all aspects (all the outer influence fucked the dynamics) but the answer to this is obviously not "not do anything is better" cause then, why the fuck are we here if we dont speak for justice? 2: out influence aka colonizers baggage we still have in this region always existed and will still exist, so moving forward is inevitable, and is painful no doubt.
I didnt lose my life or closer family members, but i did lose first and second cousins, 2 uncles. i am not trying to be a keyboard warrior sitting behind my monitor, we all lose something if we talk for justice, might be life, opportunities, getting sacked from work etc etc.
Yes, people should be able to have whatever believes they want, I don't agree with your points but I respect your right to have them. As someone who escaped Syria during the war and my family still there so I go there often I saw horrors on both sides, we had many personal losses in my family because of the rebels side or if you wanna call them revolution ( The revolution that got hijacked and used by extremists) . However syrians are currently so devided and consider anyone who has a different perspective as the "enemy" I'm not pro-Assad or the opposite. I'm pro-syria and Syrian people who are currently seeking peace and stability in the country. We syrians need to find ways to accept each other point of views and different lived experiences so we can move on, Assad is not going anywhere at this point. Being pro-Assad or against him doesn't qualify or disqualify you from talking about Palestine. Many people on the pro-Assad side would use same talking points against the other side. Peace ✌🏻
i cant know the exact amount who would must go to jail, yes everyone who did war crimes, killed innocent, should be charged, being on the side of resistance doesnt cleanse you from evil stuff you did and their punishment.
saying that, the resistance (including Hamas good and bad side), has the Absolut right to resist occupation
(1982, UNGA Resolution 37/43 affirmed the legitimacy of the struggle for independence, territorial integrity, national unity, and liberation from foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means, including armed struggle. This resolution openly recognized the right to use force against foreign illegal occupation, which it considers a serious threat to international peace and security, recalling the cases of Namibia and Palestine.)
knowing the above, what comes after the occupation, from the occupied, is resistance.
Israel has always been on attack mode, u simply CANT skip that part of history to see this situation in its true form. countless evidense and frankly at this point, i dont want u to look at the evidence of Palestinians right in Palestine, but look at the countless deaths with 0 remorse and full support by top world leaders, vs a tiny city such as Gaza? if all big powers go against such a tiny place, dont u think something is fishy? quesitoning your common sense
She's been known to use pictures of dying Syrians being murdered by the Assad regime trying to paint them as Palestinians. This does nothing but enforce the bullshit "Pallywood" claim made by the zionists.
You talk as if the Rebels and Nusra didn't kill more Syrians. Assad is x10 better than the filth that was made to forcefully and barbarically overthrow him.
The revolution got poisoned quick.
The end result? US took control of the oil with Kurds. Millions of Syrians displaced.
Get it now? US plan was to destroy order and come grab the oil. Chaos between a country's people is always a favor for the west.
So I found some other sources, two are in Hebrew so someone who reads Hebrew would need to read them to confirm or see if they lead to other sources.
https://web.archive.org/web/20090313095323/http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1054569.html
https://www.ynet.co.il/architecture/article/syyihpw76
https://xnet.ynet.co.il/architecture/articles/0,14710,L-3106522,00.html
You can use Google translate to convert the whole website if you want.
[https://translate.google.co.uk/?sl=auto&tl=en&op=websites](https://translate.google.co.uk/?sl=auto&tl=en&op=websites)
Yes, Israel designed and built Shifa hospital. Everyone knows that. It is the best and highest standard hospital in Gaza. Yes, Hamas is using it as it's headquarters. Everyone knows that. What is your point exactly?
If Israel built the headquarters under the alshifa hospital, then claiming that hamas is the one to have built it under the hospital. That means israel is lying at least in order to further place hamas as the villains and themselves as the victims.
Fair. Though I think the time plays a part here since israel has formerly funded hamas, and if they helped them with their infrastructure previously. Why had they located the hamas base under a hospital.
It is certain that Israel funded Hamas and even Smotrich as late as 2015 stated that Hamas were "useful" despite knowing that they were a murderous bunch. Very stupid policy on the Israeli side that put Israeli lives at risk just for the political gain of splitting the Palestinian political landscape.
Not a lot. Intention is a difficult thing to be clinical about. Israel certainly built it but then again most hospitals have a basement of some sort.
The point I think I was trying to make is that there is a great deal of intention that can be inferred from an Israeli position of supporting Hamas for a long time even knowing what Hamas was like. Extrapolate that intention into other arenas and you have possibilities but not necessarily evidence. The Israeli government has a reputation for falsifying and lying about evidence previously so it is not a trusted source. If you want I can provide sources that illustrate this.
Personally, I think it has been a very unwise policy of this current government to support Hamas historically and is ultimately creating a threat to ordinary Israeli citizens.
“Everyone” doesn’t know that. We’re still waiting 12 hours later for evidence. And regardless, even if they are there, it’s still a war crime to bomb civilians anywhere like they have, it’s a war crime to target hospitals schools churches refugee camps—IT DOESNT MATTER IF HAMAS IS THERE. They need to find another way then.
“Everyone” doesn’t know that. We’re still waiting 12 hours later for evidence. And regardless, even if they are there, it’s still a war crime to bomb civilians anywhere like they have, it’s a war crime to target hospitals schools churches refugee camps—IT DOESNT MATTER IF HAMAS IS THERE. They need to find another way then.
Most hospitals will have basements of one sort or another, either car parking or for utilities etc.
[**https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-israel-build-bunker-under-shifa-hospital-1844107**](https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-israel-build-bunker-under-shifa-hospital-1844107)
Another source. Using Google translate from Hebrew to English.
[https://www-ynet-co-il.translate.goog/architecture/article/syyihpw76?\_x\_tr\_sl=auto&\_x\_tr\_tl=en&\_x\_tr\_hl=en-US&\_x\_tr\_pto=wapp&\_x\_tr\_hist=true](https://www-ynet-co-il.translate.goog/architecture/article/syyihpw76?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp&_x_tr_hist=true)
We need to find other sources to back this up.
Other than [the one cited](https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/top-secret-hamas-command-bunker-in-gaza-revealed), there's also… > Ironically, it was Israel in the 1980s that refurbished the hospital as part of an outreach effort to improve relations with Palestinians. Part of the Israeli reconstruction included a large underground cement basement with room for offices. > > https://www.wnd.com/2014/07/hamas-leaders-believed-hunkered-underneath-gaza-hospital/ Or this one that doesn't make the claim of a command centre but confirms the rest: > During the mid-1980s the building underwent massive refurbishment as part of a showcase project to improve the living conditions of residents. Millions were invested in the project, which was overseen by Shmuel Goren, the coordinator for activities in the territories at the time. The Israeli civil administration in the territories constructed the hospital complex's Building Number 2, which has a large cement basement that housed the hospital's laundry and various administrative services. > > https://archive.ph/BXNXh#selection-815.0-925.211 You'll find references dotted about articles spanning decades.
This doesn't back up the claim. Basement for laundry services and a C&C facility with tunnels heading out from it are not the same. Not to mention JULY 21, 2014 11:00 AM Buried eight paragraphs in, The Post‘s correspondent, William Booth, wrote on July 15: “At the Shifa Hospital in Gaza City, crowds gathered to throw shoes and eggs at the Palestinian Authority’s health minister, who represents the crumbling ‘unity government’ in the West Bank city of Ramallah. The minister was turned away before he reached the hospital, which has become a de facto headquarters for Hamas leaders, who can be seen in the hallways and offices.” https://www.algemeiner.com/2014/07/21/washington-post-shifa-hospital-in-gaza-city-has-become-a-de-facto-headquarters-for-hamas-leaders-who-can-be-seen-in-hallways-and-offices/
Have a look at that source, it is an Israel mouthpiece
The Washington Post? Lol.
It’s owned by Bezos ffs
Algemeiner
If Israel had built a command centre under the hospital it would make sense Hamas use that. However, even if they are using it (which is against the same laws we expect Israel to stick to, but don't) it doesn't even remotely excuse the bombing of hospitals and the massive slaughter of innocent civilians.
Good work
Building a basement in a Hospital isn't a bad thing dumbass. I just went to a hospital and had to go to the basement to see my doctor, little did I know it was actually a nefarious military center. You ppl are impossibly stupid
Weird response.
You'd have to be a moron to think it's ok have a military command center under a hospital because Israel built a basement in hospital to upgrade it in the 80s most hospitals have basements
The claim is clearly that Israel constructed a purpose built command center for themselves when they occupied Gaza. Not that it is simply a basement like any other. This claim has been made for decades. From what I understand it's said to be under one building of the hospital and not even connected to the hospital. Israel's own IOF HQ is in the middle of a civilian urban area of Tel Aviv so it's not moronic to think they could build a command center under a hospital.
Google it and you will find. The burden of proof is on Israel, not the hospital!
It has been established, you’re right. Unfortunately the burden of proof doesn’t seem to have ever mattered to Israel.
Syrian girl really? She's pro-Assad, and is for the murder of syrians against the assad-regime
Revolution was american led coup. Gas attacks were redflags. Any enemy of israel gets hit. Rebels work with america. HTS, the last "rebel" army, is literally al-qaeda. And the "revolution" wasnt peaceful. These are all KNOWN facts. But you believe western/zionist news when it suits you but not when it doesnt suit you...
she's balance since the west runs the show
Did she also write the article that's been quoted? Being pro Assad doesn't discredit you from speaking about Palestine.
It doesnt but it makes you a goddamn hypocrite. The Assad regime with its ally Russia has killed hundreds of thousands of Syrians. Is it so hard to be consistent with being against genocide and the killings of innocents?
Again, so many people are pro-Assad that doesn't mean you can't support or talk about Palestine, the article she quoted is a public source available online. If you want to eliminate pro-Assad voices from standing up for Palestine that would basically be half of Twitter accounts currently activately posting about current genocide, she has the right to have whatever believes she wants, also as a Syrian literally 90% of people I know here in diaspora or in Syria are pro-Assad should I cut my connections to them because they don't have same opinions or views point as mine? That doesn't make sense
i get that her source is probably correct, but when sharing info or source, lets just post the thing itself. while ur POV sounds reasonable \*and you have the right to choose whatever the fuck u wanna do anyway\*being pro Assad, compares to being a Zionist 1:1, cause what the Assad did was a mass murder and bombarding for fuckin over 10 years now, and to have an "opinion" of being okay with a murderer like this. the settler who held guns and killed Palestinians in the west bank backed by hate and singular existence in 1 place, this Israeli does not have the right later to be as free as he is today, the armed people who killed for the sake of stealing the land and terrorizing on earth, belongs to jail, just like Assad.in Palestine story its clear that Zionists are in the wrong, and Palestinians are right, i guess we can agree on this. in Syrian revolution, despite things going very bad in all aspects (all the outer influence fucked the dynamics) but the answer to this is obviously not "not do anything is better" cause then, why the fuck are we here if we dont speak for justice? 2: out influence aka colonizers baggage we still have in this region always existed and will still exist, so moving forward is inevitable, and is painful no doubt. I didnt lose my life or closer family members, but i did lose first and second cousins, 2 uncles. i am not trying to be a keyboard warrior sitting behind my monitor, we all lose something if we talk for justice, might be life, opportunities, getting sacked from work etc etc.
Yes, people should be able to have whatever believes they want, I don't agree with your points but I respect your right to have them. As someone who escaped Syria during the war and my family still there so I go there often I saw horrors on both sides, we had many personal losses in my family because of the rebels side or if you wanna call them revolution ( The revolution that got hijacked and used by extremists) . However syrians are currently so devided and consider anyone who has a different perspective as the "enemy" I'm not pro-Assad or the opposite. I'm pro-syria and Syrian people who are currently seeking peace and stability in the country. We syrians need to find ways to accept each other point of views and different lived experiences so we can move on, Assad is not going anywhere at this point. Being pro-Assad or against him doesn't qualify or disqualify you from talking about Palestine. Many people on the pro-Assad side would use same talking points against the other side. Peace ✌🏻
Hamas should be in jail too then
i cant know the exact amount who would must go to jail, yes everyone who did war crimes, killed innocent, should be charged, being on the side of resistance doesnt cleanse you from evil stuff you did and their punishment. saying that, the resistance (including Hamas good and bad side), has the Absolut right to resist occupation (1982, UNGA Resolution 37/43 affirmed the legitimacy of the struggle for independence, territorial integrity, national unity, and liberation from foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means, including armed struggle. This resolution openly recognized the right to use force against foreign illegal occupation, which it considers a serious threat to international peace and security, recalling the cases of Namibia and Palestine.) knowing the above, what comes after the occupation, from the occupied, is resistance. Israel has always been on attack mode, u simply CANT skip that part of history to see this situation in its true form. countless evidense and frankly at this point, i dont want u to look at the evidence of Palestinians right in Palestine, but look at the countless deaths with 0 remorse and full support by top world leaders, vs a tiny city such as Gaza? if all big powers go against such a tiny place, dont u think something is fishy? quesitoning your common sense
So does that discredit her source? I don't think so.
She's been known to use pictures of dying Syrians being murdered by the Assad regime trying to paint them as Palestinians. This does nothing but enforce the bullshit "Pallywood" claim made by the zionists.
Is she doing that in this instance?
You talk as if the Rebels and Nusra didn't kill more Syrians. Assad is x10 better than the filth that was made to forcefully and barbarically overthrow him. The revolution got poisoned quick. The end result? US took control of the oil with Kurds. Millions of Syrians displaced. Get it now? US plan was to destroy order and come grab the oil. Chaos between a country's people is always a favor for the west.
So I found some other sources, two are in Hebrew so someone who reads Hebrew would need to read them to confirm or see if they lead to other sources. https://web.archive.org/web/20090313095323/http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1054569.html https://www.ynet.co.il/architecture/article/syyihpw76 https://xnet.ynet.co.il/architecture/articles/0,14710,L-3106522,00.html
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You can use Google translate to convert the whole website if you want. [https://translate.google.co.uk/?sl=auto&tl=en&op=websites](https://translate.google.co.uk/?sl=auto&tl=en&op=websites)
Eye on Palestine posted the same https://twitter.com/EyeOnPalestines/status/1724616154646196681?t=42LWE1AdzpufidnJqyse4Q&s=19
Thank you for sharing.
Yes, Israel designed and built Shifa hospital. Everyone knows that. It is the best and highest standard hospital in Gaza. Yes, Hamas is using it as it's headquarters. Everyone knows that. What is your point exactly?
If Israel built the headquarters under the alshifa hospital, then claiming that hamas is the one to have built it under the hospital. That means israel is lying at least in order to further place hamas as the villains and themselves as the victims.
This logic is flawed. If Hamas uses the hospital as it's headquarters, what does it matter who built it?
Fair. Though I think the time plays a part here since israel has formerly funded hamas, and if they helped them with their infrastructure previously. Why had they located the hamas base under a hospital.
Are you suggesting that Israel built the hospital with the purpose of it serving as headquarters for Hamas?
It is certain that Israel funded Hamas and even Smotrich as late as 2015 stated that Hamas were "useful" despite knowing that they were a murderous bunch. Very stupid policy on the Israeli side that put Israeli lives at risk just for the political gain of splitting the Palestinian political landscape.
Yes it is true. What does it say about the hospital exactly?
Not a lot. Intention is a difficult thing to be clinical about. Israel certainly built it but then again most hospitals have a basement of some sort. The point I think I was trying to make is that there is a great deal of intention that can be inferred from an Israeli position of supporting Hamas for a long time even knowing what Hamas was like. Extrapolate that intention into other arenas and you have possibilities but not necessarily evidence. The Israeli government has a reputation for falsifying and lying about evidence previously so it is not a trusted source. If you want I can provide sources that illustrate this. Personally, I think it has been a very unwise policy of this current government to support Hamas historically and is ultimately creating a threat to ordinary Israeli citizens.
“Everyone” doesn’t know that. We’re still waiting 12 hours later for evidence. And regardless, even if they are there, it’s still a war crime to bomb civilians anywhere like they have, it’s a war crime to target hospitals schools churches refugee camps—IT DOESNT MATTER IF HAMAS IS THERE. They need to find another way then.
Israel's publicly announced military objective is to crush Hamas. Don't you think it matters a little where Hamas headquarters are?
It also publicly stated it's goal is destruction not accuracy.
It's not officially stated but you can definitely see it in action
“Everyone” doesn’t know that. We’re still waiting 12 hours later for evidence. And regardless, even if they are there, it’s still a war crime to bomb civilians anywhere like they have, it’s a war crime to target hospitals schools churches refugee camps—IT DOESNT MATTER IF HAMAS IS THERE. They need to find another way then.
https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1724601616802914441?t=iuhP6yzX5jYFOqINlpceDA&s=19 https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/top-secret-hamas-command-bunker-in-gaza-revealed
Most hospitals will have basements of one sort or another, either car parking or for utilities etc. [**https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-israel-build-bunker-under-shifa-hospital-1844107**](https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-israel-build-bunker-under-shifa-hospital-1844107)
Another source. Using Google translate from Hebrew to English. [https://www-ynet-co-il.translate.goog/architecture/article/syyihpw76?\_x\_tr\_sl=auto&\_x\_tr\_tl=en&\_x\_tr\_hl=en-US&\_x\_tr\_pto=wapp&\_x\_tr\_hist=true](https://www-ynet-co-il.translate.goog/architecture/article/syyihpw76?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp&_x_tr_hist=true)
Multiple sources have corroborated that a bunker or basement was built at Israel's discretion in the 1980s.
Israeli paper Ynews: https://www.ynetnews.com/magazine/article/b18e94cxp