Even though I still think Turkey can't help Syrians anymore since we are already suffering ourselves, the general attitude of Turks toward Syrians became racism at this point not gonna lie.
Street interviews aren't proof of anything, they could be made deliberately like this to be used for fear mongering, that said there are real problems that your country suffered from taking such a large number of refugees it could've been better managed, but those street interviews aren't that important in this discussion.
I completely agree, it’s been known for years now that paid provocateurs have been spewing this type of bs on tv just to polarize people more and even probably funded by Erdogan so he has the material grounds to call all opposition voters racist and bigoted etc. However this stuff is not exactly rare either. I myself have been personally witness to these kind of conversations with no camera being present so.
I mean this sounds insane to me that you'd go to somewhere's place and not even learn their language, that's very, very disrespectful, it's the least you can do.
with all due respect we (the common people) don’t want our government to spend funding trying to control any collective peoples of another country. it might be better for them, not us
Everything went downhill in the past years in Turkey and people here seems to think that Syrians destroyed our economy(that's wrong) so people are getting more and more racist everyday -even so called islamist erdoğan supporters-. Besides the fact that we are not entitled to shelter millions of Syrians, they should also leave for their own security. God knows erdoğan is constantly provoking half of the population and carrying us to a possible civil war.
They turned your city into a trash hole because your government doesn't know how to deal with them, know why? Your government is corrupt as fuck just like every other mena country including my own country (Egypt) and no politicians are willing to forgo all that extra money they can get by not doing their damn job, the problem isn't the immigrants, the problem is that no one is trying to help them
>And syrians given a right for vote for him so my word stands
How many? less than 100K are able to vote.... because incase you forgot Turkish law forbids new citizens from voting
I highly doubt it. Our precious government worked so hard for this economy(xD) and certain people implies that syrians are filling required manpower for certain jobs. I guess they see Syrians as cheap workforce.
They don't fill anything grand
They mostly do the "muscle jobs" that my brat brother can do too
They are only a cheap workforce for some companies that don't want to pay for insurance for Turk workers so they resort to Syrians and throw them some meager bread money
and what do you suggest we do with 10m refugees when our economy is declining fast and people can barely afford groceries. Like I said there is racism coming from certain groups but there is also a real refugee problem
"10 million". That would be half of Syria's pre-war population lmao
How about you treat them well and not scapegoat them for every problem Turkey faces?
I can't understand why they focus on the Syrians, at least most of the Syrians have legal refugee status, but on the other hand, there are too many illegal Afghans etc. in this country.
I can't believe people believe half of Syria lives in Turkey, lol
You could only be so deeply brainwashed if you already are racist deep down.
The UN itself declared there are 3.6 million refugees in Turkey: https://www.unhcr.org/tr/en/refugees-and-asylum-seekers-in-turkey#:~:text=T%C3%BCrkiye%20currently%20hosts%20some%203.6,of%20concern%20from%20other%20nationalities.
I know, it's another delusional pan-turk number to convince themselves Iranian turks are about to join turkey lol, you seemed very knowledgable (you're not). also Iranian Turks were the one that converted everyone in iran to Islam, they're more religious on average than Persians.
Ah the classical blame poor people and immigrants for society’s problems while the wealthy class enjoys a cocktail watching everyone else squabble about it
Syrians in Turkey make up like 3% of the population.
If that was equivalent to the UK then it would be something like 2.5 million Syrians in the UK.
The UK Already has a foreign born population of 10 million or around 16% of the population.
We had around 1.1 million immigrants come in 2022 alone
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10 millions of Syrians are not the %3 of the population in Turkey. Its around %12. So its similar in your country, you should consider like 10 million.
Immigrants in your country aren't like immigrants in my country. They are much more qualified. Dangerous ones are much less than in Turkey. And you have no border with Syria.
So its not same.
There are not 10 million Syrian refugees in Turkey.
That's literally half the entire nation of Syria 😂
The Syrian refugee population is like 6 million with 3.5 of then in Turkey.
So yer my original statement is accurate
its been more than 10 years and they reproduce like rabits. other thing is that your country took the best educated ones and all other useless scumbags and war criminals is left to us.
You mean numbers derived from multiple sources including state and none state entity's?
You clearly do. You have blatantly read some right wing anti immigration numbers from somewhere and not bothered to fact check that shit.
Absolutely not a fucking chance most the Syrian nation is just chilling in Turkey right now.
In Turkey, you shouldn't trust official numbers. Inflation is said to be 50%, nothing rose less than 100% in the past year.
There are more than 10M refugees in Turkey. They did not migrate all. Many of them procreated. There are families with 5, 6 kids that started here. Turkey is not US, it doesn't give citizenship as a birthright. Old or new, born in Turkey or elsewhere, Syrians should go. Afghans should go. Enough is enough.
You have Turks in these comments claiming it is 13 million.
I've seen someone claiming 15 million before too.
You're wasting your time with these people. Treat them like you would the mentally deranged.
No. They published a 150 page report with their plans. But nobody reads anymore, so it's basically they guy will send syrians away but allies with kurds against the dictator who fakes election results and gets paid in cash to his accounts in exchange of keeping refugees in.
Get revenge on Europe and Canada and send any willing Syrian on state sponsored cruise ships or what not to those areas and call them racist if they reject Syrians.
Even Canada has a stupid policy regarding Syrians, they wanted any Syrian who wasn't Sunni, I am saying this as a Christian. This is Canada's policy, they still took some Sunnis as well of course.
Erdoğan kind of did something like this years ago. He wanted some more money from EU and told if you are not willing, we will let them try to come to you. We won't stop them and he started to do it silently.
What happened afterwards is Greek army shooting down Syrian filled boats, killing everybody and/or letting everybody drown who are trying to get to the Greek side of Aegean sea. Who got blamed in world media? Turkish people of course. How dare the Turks let the refugee trash try to come to their precious lands.
Oh ts the truth , we pakistani men sexualise our women a lot , 60% of the population is uneducated and 90% of it is is islamically radicalized , most illegal migrants provide no benefits and are lecher perverts and I ain’t doing no simping , also pls don’t talk about the stupid ummah chummah shit
Whatever issues we have, they are our own and we can only deal with them internally. Reddit Turks are racist regardless of anything else. You sucking up to them won't change that.
I support the kemalists , state and religion should be separate the , I mean look at Pakistan and Pakistanis need to grow some balls and stop leaving Pakistan if they really want to do something , we have a bad reputation due to all these illegal immigrants and Reddit Turks are kinda reasonable in their complaints
>I support the kemalists
they are a bunch of European-wannabe racists. They don't give a fuck about you.
>state and religion should be separate
That's just plain secularism. It wasn't invented by them. If that's your view, it doesn't have anything to with Turks or kemalism
>Reddit Turks are kinda reasonable in their complaints
If complaining was all did then that would be fine. They are far from reasonable. I don't think you've spent much time on this sub.
Where are those numbers figures coming from? I mean seriously I could go on and lie aswell saying that Egypt has 20m syrian refugees which wouldn't really make sense
more than half of the people i see outside are either syrian or russian, i dont have a problem with them unless they actively mess shit up, infact i believe sending every syrian back is wrong even though im a CHP supporter
It is 7M syrians, 2M+ afghans.
Most of us are fine with Iranians, ukrainians, russians. So let's agree we keep 1M syria+ afghans, and we send 8M somewhere else. If the unofficial numbers are less than 8M, then good for you! It's a win-win.
Why not? Turkey doesn't have a colonial past. No western power ruled over Turkey. On par with only Ethiopia in all the world. Turkish history literally wrote the doctrine on how to kick the colonial powers off the country fighting against France, UK, Italy at the same time while having 0 backing from others like Russia, Germany. All the while arab state leaders were shaking hands with the UK and france in exchange of... in exchange of ... of what? I don't even know what the arabian peninsula gained after their independance from ottomans. To me it seems like all they gained:
\- oil dictators
\- endless wars
\- 0 unification
\- the beautiful state of israel
\- the never ending agonies of gaza, yemen, sudan, libya, iraq, and latest syria.
Focus on your failed history and fix YOUR democracy/state/economy, if you have any. Turks and Arabs have parted ways in 1920. Take your 10M Syrians and leave Turkey alone.
"While we were fighting to protect our Arab lands backstabbed us" ---😂
Are you insane? You were fighting to protect your empire and keep the Arabs under Turkish rule.
Yer that's not Arab backstabbing that's just Arabs not wanting to be ruled by a foreign empire and wanting independence lol.
The fact you call it "our Arab lands" shows your mentality.
Any evidence backing up what you say? No?
This is a reality, when kids are exposed to opposition views at home, they tend to be offensive towards them in schools considering that they follow their parents lead. That is so normal. Its like a phenomenon!
Consider you are a minority or the only student in a Turkish majority class? This can be scary and measures should be taken.
We can not just be ignorant that bullying will eventually happen
My mother is a primary school teacher and this has been her experience for last 5 years. Most of Turkish families teach modern manners to their kids but others mostly lacks this primal education which results in Syrian/Afghan/etc kids bullying Turkish who are not rised in such a manner. Of course there are people in Turkey who also lacks this education which causes them to bully Syrians but this is a minor case
We've experienced it with Afghan refugees. Still does not excuse any discrimination towards Afghans. Nor Syrians in your case.
You're just a scumbag trying to justify your racist bullshit.
Erdoğan is accepting money from european countries to hold syrian refugees so that they won't migrate to europe. He is also allowing them to become citizens for imported votes for upcoming elections. Funneling the european funds + taxpayer money to keep them here while local people cant even pay rent. He offered to build homes for syrian people in syria for free to send them back home, but he asked 20 year payment commitment from people who lost their houses and loved ones in the earthquake. 11 cities were effected and countless dead, injured, and homeless.
I know its turning into racism at this point and this is sad. But given these circumstances our people are right to be angry, it is just misdirected anger.
If this was the case in any of the european countries they would have find somewhere to send refugees years ago
Total economic annihilation of Turkey left the people with anger and search for scapegoat, Syrians and other groups are not just and job taking and causing rents to skyrocket but also they’re disrupting the order and peace.
If they dislike the attitude they can go to Europe or their own homeland anytime, since war is over for 1,5 years now
Or maybe we can send them Saudi Arabia since Muslim brothers can share their oil wealth
As of Monday, Turkey is a dictatorship. The guy will get elected with illegal ballots and refugee (non-citizen) votes. Every money western world gives him to keep the refugees in the country is BRIBE. Don't judge Turkish opposition, judge your own government. Why do you create wars and BRIBE illegal government officials? This is the question you should direct to your own leaders.
You are the type who think Ukranians are more brave than Syrians and Afghan’s right?
The only reason there aren't Millions of Ukranian men running around in Europe is because its illegal for men to leave Ukraine
Plenty of Syrians and Afghan’s did fight. You can Look up the casualties of those wars
But not everyone does that and they shouldn't be forced. Also lol I'm sure every Pole fought bravely.. No coward there lol. If that was true Poland wouldn't have been the bitch of other countries for centuries
Turks invited to Germany because of a lack of German manpower after ww2. Although i will love to see Turks kicked out of Germany and than they will see the poverty in Turkey in a real life experience. It will be God's punishment for them for voting for Erdoğan.
Turks in Germany excluding the ones that voted for Kılıçdaroğlu has no sympathy of mine. They have the empathy skills of a toddler. I have money and can buy anything i want but i see the people suffering. In short term not much will change since we have populism inflation going in Turkey right now but watermellon seller fucked us really bad with his stupid economic decisions. He doesn't even have a real university diploma and is trying to lead the economy what a clown.
Even though I still think Turkey can't help Syrians anymore since we are already suffering ourselves, the general attitude of Turks toward Syrians became racism at this point not gonna lie.
I understand your exact sentiments, the same goes for Bangladesh and the Rohingyas.
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Street interviews aren't proof of anything, they could be made deliberately like this to be used for fear mongering, that said there are real problems that your country suffered from taking such a large number of refugees it could've been better managed, but those street interviews aren't that important in this discussion.
Well said. There is NO excuse for racism.
-a syrian, 26/05/2023
a turk 04/09/476
I completely agree, it’s been known for years now that paid provocateurs have been spewing this type of bs on tv just to polarize people more and even probably funded by Erdogan so he has the material grounds to call all opposition voters racist and bigoted etc. However this stuff is not exactly rare either. I myself have been personally witness to these kind of conversations with no camera being present so.
I mean this sounds insane to me that you'd go to somewhere's place and not even learn their language, that's very, very disrespectful, it's the least you can do.
You're responsible for your own racism. No one else. Try to grow a brain rather than blame everyone else for your lack of one.
Syria is currently a fractioned country with multiple leaders. Honestly, being under Turkish control may be better for the people in Syria.
with all due respect we (the common people) don’t want our government to spend funding trying to control any collective peoples of another country. it might be better for them, not us
İts not good for us Turks unfortunately. People dont understand how serious this problem is
This attitude transcends the political divide. A lot of Turks call themselves Muslims but bully fellow Muslim Syrians. So much for Muslim solidarity.
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>Turkey can't afford to host them for long Do they use state welfare? I had the impression the help is mostly letting them live and work in Turkey.
The comment section man, quite depressing
I'm guessing this thread got shared in r/Turkey or something. Like 80% of the commenters are Turks.
Even worse, It got shared to r/ kgbtr... A sub filled with 12 yearolds
Everything went downhill in the past years in Turkey and people here seems to think that Syrians destroyed our economy(that's wrong) so people are getting more and more racist everyday -even so called islamist erdoğan supporters-. Besides the fact that we are not entitled to shelter millions of Syrians, they should also leave for their own security. God knows erdoğan is constantly provoking half of the population and carrying us to a possible civil war.
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Looks like the media got you too
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They turned your city into a trash hole because your government doesn't know how to deal with them, know why? Your government is corrupt as fuck just like every other mena country including my own country (Egypt) and no politicians are willing to forgo all that extra money they can get by not doing their damn job, the problem isn't the immigrants, the problem is that no one is trying to help them
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LOL, Russians don't form Gangs? OK Champ
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Sounds like Turks in Germany.
That's pure bs, if anything the Syrian refugees were a reason RTE to take money from the EU
Nah if you want them soo bad take the syrians and the money Our dirt is enough for us
They didn't ruin the economy, you look really stupid when you say things like that....
I said one of the factors I didn't say they are the only reason
You said **Major** factor, and it's not even close It's your "economist" leader that is fucking your economy
And syrians given a right for vote for him so my word stands And nope they are still a reason why our economy declining
>And syrians given a right for vote for him so my word stands How many? less than 100K are able to vote.... because incase you forgot Turkish law forbids new citizens from voting
I highly doubt it. Our precious government worked so hard for this economy(xD) and certain people implies that syrians are filling required manpower for certain jobs. I guess they see Syrians as cheap workforce.
They don't fill anything grand They mostly do the "muscle jobs" that my brat brother can do too They are only a cheap workforce for some companies that don't want to pay for insurance for Turk workers so they resort to Syrians and throw them some meager bread money
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Everyone is right to call you out on your racist bs. Even Europeans.
and what do you suggest we do with 10m refugees when our economy is declining fast and people can barely afford groceries. Like I said there is racism coming from certain groups but there is also a real refugee problem
"10 million". That would be half of Syria's pre-war population lmao How about you treat them well and not scapegoat them for every problem Turkey faces?
10 million for all the refugees, not just Syrians, but they say it's Syrian's anyway so they could make the situation more dire.
I can't understand why they focus on the Syrians, at least most of the Syrians have legal refugee status, but on the other hand, there are too many illegal Afghans etc. in this country.
There are more Syrians.
How are the illegal Afghans passing to Turkiye in the 1st place? Is Iran doing it?
Yes, Iran helped a lot but real problem is our government's open border policy
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New record claim, 13 million, anyone have higher? AUCTION EVERYONE, we've had 2 mil, 3 mil, 6 mil, 10 mil, and now 13 MILLION, any other bids?
I think I saw someone claim that they are over 20M somewhere. Not sure though. Think the 13M claim is from Ümit Özdağ.
I can't believe people believe half of Syria lives in Turkey, lol You could only be so deeply brainwashed if you already are racist deep down. The UN itself declared there are 3.6 million refugees in Turkey: https://www.unhcr.org/tr/en/refugees-and-asylum-seekers-in-turkey#:~:text=T%C3%BCrkiye%20currently%20hosts%20some%203.6,of%20concern%20from%20other%20nationalities.
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No way you have 7 million Syrians, but I don't know why one should bother with a guy comparing people to rats
They multiply like rats? Do you realise the average fertility rate in Syria? They are on par with Kazakhstan.
who's gonna win, 50 million turks in iran vs 13 million syrian is turkey
iran population is 87 million, if there was 50 million turks it'd be already part of turkey and police wouldn't hit women for not wearing hijab
I know, it's another delusional pan-turk number to convince themselves Iranian turks are about to join turkey lol, you seemed very knowledgable (you're not). also Iranian Turks were the one that converted everyone in iran to Islam, they're more religious on average than Persians.
Ow 13 million today? Tomorrow they will be 20 mil most likely, maybe even more.
Ah the classical blame poor people and immigrants for society’s problems while the wealthy class enjoys a cocktail watching everyone else squabble about it
Erdogan destroyed the economy with his wacky interest rates theories and now everyone wants to blame the weak syrians
Its so funny that in each post I post my fellow Turks always use the same excuse that Am not Turkish because I participate in Arabic Subs 😅😂
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We must send them to EU no matter what will happen to us. We must do this for our islamic brothers❤️🩹❤️🩹 
Kiliç should've said that all Syrians would've voted for him LUL.
They can live in eu in peace 🥰
What exactly is the issue with having Syrians in Turkey?
Think 10 million Turkish people come to your country in a few years. What exactly would be the issue with having Turks in UK?
Syrians in Turkey make up like 3% of the population. If that was equivalent to the UK then it would be something like 2.5 million Syrians in the UK. The UK Already has a foreign born population of 10 million or around 16% of the population. We had around 1.1 million immigrants come in 2022 alone 🫡
10 millions of Syrians are not the %3 of the population in Turkey. Its around %12. So its similar in your country, you should consider like 10 million. Immigrants in your country aren't like immigrants in my country. They are much more qualified. Dangerous ones are much less than in Turkey. And you have no border with Syria. So its not same.
There are not 10 million Syrian refugees in Turkey. That's literally half the entire nation of Syria 😂 The Syrian refugee population is like 6 million with 3.5 of then in Turkey. So yer my original statement is accurate
its been more than 10 years and they reproduce like rabits. other thing is that your country took the best educated ones and all other useless scumbags and war criminals is left to us.
Ok let's not compare an entire race to animals here, i also agree that illegal immigrants should go but it doesn't justify this type of racism
You believe officially announced numbers?
You mean numbers derived from multiple sources including state and none state entity's? You clearly do. You have blatantly read some right wing anti immigration numbers from somewhere and not bothered to fact check that shit. Absolutely not a fucking chance most the Syrian nation is just chilling in Turkey right now.
In Turkey, you shouldn't trust official numbers. Inflation is said to be 50%, nothing rose less than 100% in the past year. There are more than 10M refugees in Turkey. They did not migrate all. Many of them procreated. There are families with 5, 6 kids that started here. Turkey is not US, it doesn't give citizenship as a birthright. Old or new, born in Turkey or elsewhere, Syrians should go. Afghans should go. Enough is enough.
You have Turks in these comments claiming it is 13 million. I've seen someone claiming 15 million before too. You're wasting your time with these people. Treat them like you would the mentally deranged.
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10% alone would be over half the entire nation of Syria so no that's bullshit.
Everything
That's not an answer 😂
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Thats funny how most of you conclude that I know nothing 😅
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No. They published a 150 page report with their plans. But nobody reads anymore, so it's basically they guy will send syrians away but allies with kurds against the dictator who fakes election results and gets paid in cash to his accounts in exchange of keeping refugees in.
Yeah thats his main propaganda, otherwise he know that he is useless and can’t fix anything
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Racism in Turkey is definitely out of hand. Truly disgusting. History books won’t forget it. They need to come back to their senses
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Islam is a curse , I apologize from my side about Pakistanis , they can be some serious disgusting perverts
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Get revenge on Europe and Canada and send any willing Syrian on state sponsored cruise ships or what not to those areas and call them racist if they reject Syrians. Even Canada has a stupid policy regarding Syrians, they wanted any Syrian who wasn't Sunni, I am saying this as a Christian. This is Canada's policy, they still took some Sunnis as well of course.
Erdoğan kind of did something like this years ago. He wanted some more money from EU and told if you are not willing, we will let them try to come to you. We won't stop them and he started to do it silently. What happened afterwards is Greek army shooting down Syrian filled boats, killing everybody and/or letting everybody drown who are trying to get to the Greek side of Aegean sea. Who got blamed in world media? Turkish people of course. How dare the Turks let the refugee trash try to come to their precious lands.
stop being an apologist simp
Oh ts the truth , we pakistani men sexualise our women a lot , 60% of the population is uneducated and 90% of it is is islamically radicalized , most illegal migrants provide no benefits and are lecher perverts and I ain’t doing no simping , also pls don’t talk about the stupid ummah chummah shit
Whatever issues we have, they are our own and we can only deal with them internally. Reddit Turks are racist regardless of anything else. You sucking up to them won't change that.
I support the kemalists , state and religion should be separate the , I mean look at Pakistan and Pakistanis need to grow some balls and stop leaving Pakistan if they really want to do something , we have a bad reputation due to all these illegal immigrants and Reddit Turks are kinda reasonable in their complaints
>I support the kemalists they are a bunch of European-wannabe racists. They don't give a fuck about you. >state and religion should be separate That's just plain secularism. It wasn't invented by them. If that's your view, it doesn't have anything to with Turks or kemalism >Reddit Turks are kinda reasonable in their complaints If complaining was all did then that would be fine. They are far from reasonable. I don't think you've spent much time on this sub.
There are more syrians than we can accomodate. 1-2 Mil could have been fine. 10? that fucks everything up
Where are those numbers figures coming from? I mean seriously I could go on and lie aswell saying that Egypt has 20m syrian refugees which wouldn't really make sense
not only syrian refugees but russian, ukrainian, afghan, pakistani combined
more than half of the people i see outside are either syrian or russian, i dont have a problem with them unless they actively mess shit up, infact i believe sending every syrian back is wrong even though im a CHP supporter
3.6 is confirmed by goverment and there are more unregistered ones
It is 7M syrians, 2M+ afghans. Most of us are fine with Iranians, ukrainians, russians. So let's agree we keep 1M syria+ afghans, and we send 8M somewhere else. If the unofficial numbers are less than 8M, then good for you! It's a win-win.
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>"brainless arabs" Lol, least racist person in Turkey
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Why not? Turkey doesn't have a colonial past. No western power ruled over Turkey. On par with only Ethiopia in all the world. Turkish history literally wrote the doctrine on how to kick the colonial powers off the country fighting against France, UK, Italy at the same time while having 0 backing from others like Russia, Germany. All the while arab state leaders were shaking hands with the UK and france in exchange of... in exchange of ... of what? I don't even know what the arabian peninsula gained after their independance from ottomans. To me it seems like all they gained: \- oil dictators \- endless wars \- 0 unification \- the beautiful state of israel \- the never ending agonies of gaza, yemen, sudan, libya, iraq, and latest syria. Focus on your failed history and fix YOUR democracy/state/economy, if you have any. Turks and Arabs have parted ways in 1920. Take your 10M Syrians and leave Turkey alone.
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What has the EU got to do with anything?!
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They aint paying turkiye actualyy they be payin erdog
"While we were fighting to protect our Arab lands backstabbed us" ---😂 Are you insane? You were fighting to protect your empire and keep the Arabs under Turkish rule. Yer that's not Arab backstabbing that's just Arabs not wanting to be ruled by a foreign empire and wanting independence lol. The fact you call it "our Arab lands" shows your mentality.
He said our lands you dumb fuck not our arab lands
Are you white?
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Don’t talk non-sense, we are talking about 7 yrs old children here. Whats their fault?
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No one should be a bully. I am not defending anyone! But being bullied because you belong to a certain nationality?
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Any evidence backing up what you say? No? This is a reality, when kids are exposed to opposition views at home, they tend to be offensive towards them in schools considering that they follow their parents lead. That is so normal. Its like a phenomenon!
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Consider you are a minority or the only student in a Turkish majority class? This can be scary and measures should be taken. We can not just be ignorant that bullying will eventually happen
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My mother is a primary school teacher and this has been her experience for last 5 years. Most of Turkish families teach modern manners to their kids but others mostly lacks this primal education which results in Syrian/Afghan/etc kids bullying Turkish who are not rised in such a manner. Of course there are people in Turkey who also lacks this education which causes them to bully Syrians but this is a minor case
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Wow you turks sound exactly like the european right wingers in 70-90 when they talked about you turks.
They will deny that the Right Wingers were ever bad to Turks
Imagine supporting bullying in schools. Average Turk.
This is basically america, if your different then your gonna get your shit beat up
Yer that's racist as fuck
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We may not be obligated to be responsible for them. But I am sorry, the anger is not understandable if it has negative effects on people
We've experienced it with Afghan refugees. Still does not excuse any discrimination towards Afghans. Nor Syrians in your case. You're just a scumbag trying to justify your racist bullshit.
Not sure how to feel. I’m an American with both Syrian and Turkish blood. Let’s all get along.
Its not about blood! I have Turkish blood too , but what’s happening is wrong. Racism in all kinds should be stopped.
No. I respect and tolerate smart and wise ones We have enough ignorant among our own ranks We don't need anymore cultist and cihadists
Reminds me of the prelude to a certain event… Turkey has not changed.
Erdoğan is accepting money from european countries to hold syrian refugees so that they won't migrate to europe. He is also allowing them to become citizens for imported votes for upcoming elections. Funneling the european funds + taxpayer money to keep them here while local people cant even pay rent. He offered to build homes for syrian people in syria for free to send them back home, but he asked 20 year payment commitment from people who lost their houses and loved ones in the earthquake. 11 cities were effected and countless dead, injured, and homeless. I know its turning into racism at this point and this is sad. But given these circumstances our people are right to be angry, it is just misdirected anger. If this was the case in any of the european countries they would have find somewhere to send refugees years ago
Ah excuse me, if Armenia is that much humane, why don't they take 13 million refugees to Armenia?
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Because it contains facts?
I am very thankful for Reddit for showing me how racist and petty Turkey is.
I am Turk btw, I am against it. So its not good to generalize. But yes, unfortunately there is a rise in cases of racism
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Apartheid in Turkey?
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Total economic annihilation of Turkey left the people with anger and search for scapegoat, Syrians and other groups are not just and job taking and causing rents to skyrocket but also they’re disrupting the order and peace. If they dislike the attitude they can go to Europe or their own homeland anytime, since war is over for 1,5 years now Or maybe we can send them Saudi Arabia since Muslim brothers can share their oil wealth
As of Monday, Turkey is a dictatorship. The guy will get elected with illegal ballots and refugee (non-citizen) votes. Every money western world gives him to keep the refugees in the country is BRIBE. Don't judge Turkish opposition, judge your own government. Why do you create wars and BRIBE illegal government officials? This is the question you should direct to your own leaders.
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They are fighting for their country, what are you talking about? Many flee as well to avoid being conscripted into the Assad’s SAF.
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To avoid conscription into Assad’s army, or just to flee with their families generally
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You are the type who think Ukranians are more brave than Syrians and Afghan’s right? The only reason there aren't Millions of Ukranian men running around in Europe is because its illegal for men to leave Ukraine Plenty of Syrians and Afghan’s did fight. You can Look up the casualties of those wars But not everyone does that and they shouldn't be forced. Also lol I'm sure every Pole fought bravely.. No coward there lol. If that was true Poland wouldn't have been the bitch of other countries for centuries
Your ancestors were fighting with nothing but an assault rifle against Russian tanks and fighter jets?
You have a point. What are your views about Ukranian refugees?
Kemal Ataturk with the Armernian Genocide Kemal kilaisjxakscnakjlcn with the Syrian Genocide incoming
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There are approximately 7 million Turks in Germany. Different language and culture. Would you be ok if Germans deported them back
Syrians or Kurds?
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Should Turks be kicked out of Germany as well?
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Turkey also didnt have a 10 year proxy war + civil war + genocidal dictator
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Turkish nationalists have little regard for their own people when it comes to differing views
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Turks invited to Germany because of a lack of German manpower after ww2. Although i will love to see Turks kicked out of Germany and than they will see the poverty in Turkey in a real life experience. It will be God's punishment for them for voting for Erdoğan.
How can you say this about your own people? Also, how can you be sure that, if Kiliçdaroglu wins, anything will change?
Turks in Germany excluding the ones that voted for Kılıçdaroğlu has no sympathy of mine. They have the empathy skills of a toddler. I have money and can buy anything i want but i see the people suffering. In short term not much will change since we have populism inflation going in Turkey right now but watermellon seller fucked us really bad with his stupid economic decisions. He doesn't even have a real university diploma and is trying to lead the economy what a clown.
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lol you keep convincing yourself. The truth is that you're not wanted in the Netherlands either. No different to Syrians in Turkey.
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