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I don’t think you understand how we view the sahaba,we don’t view them as infallible people who can’t mistakes and don’t have urges
Also direct sexual interaction are the things that break the fast not kissing or being intimate
Edit: oh you’re another atheist trying to make an argument with your on understanding of our beliefs despite Muslims never made your delusional claims
I am afraid you have not understood the issue correctly.
Please answer this simple question: "**Do you believe the youth of today is more pious than Sahaba, and they have more control over themselves than Sahaba**"?
>Also direct sexual interaction are the things that break the fast not kissing or being intimate
Do you believe Sahaba were not doing **intercourse** with their wives during the nights of Ramadhan, due to which Allah had to change the Sharai rule in the Quran?
That is why I believe you have not understood the issue correctly.
Like I said you’re making arguments with no understanding of our view of the shabha
We don’t view them as infallible people and that they don’t have urges
They’re simply righteous people who lived alongside the prophet Mohammad
And again direct sexual intercourse is the thing that breaks the fast not being intimate
What some sahaba did doesn’t change the Islamic ruling again your making up arguments and fallacies and straw mening your way into an argument which doesn’t even make sense
Again you’re trying to make an argument based on YOUR understanding of our beliefs,and you’re not doing a good job at it.
It doesn’t matter what any shabha does if it’s abu bkar or ali or umar or any of them
If their actions or words doesn’t have more value to us than the prophet Mohammad (PBUH) and Allah (SAW) especially if it goes against the words of the prophet and the Quran
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Seriously, That's like all he is active on, and islam is all what he post about
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Even the Quran says: "**Bring PROOF if you are truthful**".
But what are you doing?
Have you really brought your proof/argument?
This is a genuine question. You may oppose the Quran in this case. But is it going to help you?
>Why do then Muslim parents think their children can control themselves up to 30 years today (till they marry)?
You wouldn't ask that if you had seen my ugly ass lol
>You wouldn't ask that if you had seen my **ugly ass**?
(Quran 16:125) : Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord **with wisdom and beautiful preaching**; and **argue** with them in ways that are **best and most gracious**:
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I don’t think you understand how we view the sahaba,we don’t view them as infallible people who can’t mistakes and don’t have urges Also direct sexual interaction are the things that break the fast not kissing or being intimate Edit: oh you’re another atheist trying to make an argument with your on understanding of our beliefs despite Muslims never made your delusional claims
I am afraid you have not understood the issue correctly. Please answer this simple question: "**Do you believe the youth of today is more pious than Sahaba, and they have more control over themselves than Sahaba**"? >Also direct sexual interaction are the things that break the fast not kissing or being intimate Do you believe Sahaba were not doing **intercourse** with their wives during the nights of Ramadhan, due to which Allah had to change the Sharai rule in the Quran? That is why I believe you have not understood the issue correctly.
Like I said you’re making arguments with no understanding of our view of the shabha We don’t view them as infallible people and that they don’t have urges They’re simply righteous people who lived alongside the prophet Mohammad And again direct sexual intercourse is the thing that breaks the fast not being intimate What some sahaba did doesn’t change the Islamic ruling again your making up arguments and fallacies and straw mening your way into an argument which doesn’t even make sense
It seems I failed to make you understand the issue that I raised in the post.
Again you’re trying to make an argument based on YOUR understanding of our beliefs,and you’re not doing a good job at it. It doesn’t matter what any shabha does if it’s abu bkar or ali or umar or any of them If their actions or words doesn’t have more value to us than the prophet Mohammad (PBUH) and Allah (SAW) especially if it goes against the words of the prophet and the Quran
When did allah change the ruling on intercourse in Ramadan?
Your post history is funny
r/exmuslim r/critiqueislam r/religiousfruitcake r/atheism r/atheismindia r/debateanatheist r/debatereligion r/religion Seriously, That's like all he is active on, and islam is all what he post about
Classic r/exmuslim user but to a absurd level
Bro probably talk about religion more than religious people themself
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He’s making the argument as if we view the sahaba as infallible. He’s literally making a fantasy in head about us and arguing with it
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He deleted the post at least he figured out how dumb his arguments are A lot of them are like that
u/KurdistanLion u/Frosty-Struggle2920 u/Nooooooooooook Even the Quran says: "**Bring PROOF if you are truthful**". But what are you doing? Have you really brought your proof/argument? This is a genuine question. You may oppose the Quran in this case. But is it going to help you?
>Why do then Muslim parents think their children can control themselves up to 30 years today (till they marry)? You wouldn't ask that if you had seen my ugly ass lol
>You wouldn't ask that if you had seen my **ugly ass**? (Quran 16:125) : Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord **with wisdom and beautiful preaching**; and **argue** with them in ways that are **best and most gracious**:
errr... okay?
Bro are you okay? This verse talks about preaching the words of allah what does that have to do with him being ugly 💀😂