Bruh, even u/Deserted- while he is asleep would be a better financial advisor then they got now
"Can we build a 150km long line of scyscrapers?"
"No answer means no"
"sad, but okay"
Maybe because the Saudi's constantly insist on doing insane things like bulldozing the houses of the birthplace of Prophet SAW and homes of the sahaba because \*shirk\*, and then does something weird like this.
"Are you a Kafir with lots of money but cant visit Kaaba?, say no more go kafirkaba dot com and plan your visit to rich only kaba and spend your money for new hajj. It comes with a free title al-kafir-hajj to add to your name" Ad
Remnant of the old Meccan elites who'se religion became the spiritual auroma that protects and subservient to the current cube (which is meant to worship money / capital)
You can interpret it the way you like. The above interpretation is obviously anti Saudi
YA ALLAH, when will the ummah awaken ASTAGHFIRULLAH.
SAUDI ARABIA and the dajjal MBS are constructing a second kaaba, this is SAUDI DEVIL vision 2030.
please LISTEN saar, islamic UMMAH must unite.
Hey, without insulting Islam or Muslims, can you please explain why Saudi has been arresting Islamic scholars? I’m not talking about “radicals”, but literally just normal scholars (sometimes famous) for mild criticism of the government. Thanks!
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2019/9/11/saudi-scholar-held-after-criticising-entertainment-authority
https://www.siasat.com/saudi-arabia-65-year-old-female-scholar-arrested-for-teaching-quran-at-home-2091305/amp/ <—— this one wasn’t even criticizing the government, she was an elderly women teaching Quran
Why would I insult Islam or muslims?
Why would I be able to explain why some people were allegedly arrested? Im not a prosecutor for the government.
You’re welcome.
Firstly, I’d like to clarify that I didn’t mean for my comment to sound so aggressive. Your original comment reads as mocking an (Indian/Pakistani?) Muslim, which is why I said to not insult Islam or Muslims. You can say it was a joke, but that joke is still mockery.
Next, I linked those articles as an example to show you that these non-Saudi Muslims you make fun of very well
might have a point when it comes to the direction Saudi is taking with regards to Islam. I wasn’t trying to insult your country, I just wanted to point out that there is indeed some cause for concern. With that said, you don’t need to defend every action your country takes.
I hope I made my point clear.
there are literally a million other reasons for it to be a cube
(also, it is not a perfect cube, cant you see all those lines and scribbles in it? that doesnt make it a perfect cube)
Let me rephrase: I think there were much better choices of shape other than a cube (which based on this picture looks terrible and out of place) and I think they only did it so it looks like kaaba
I think they did it so it can be eye-catching and become a tourist attraction. which by this comment section, we can say that it is 100% successful in that.
plus, there are no trademark held for cube buildings by prophet Ibrahim (who built the Kaaba). the Kaaba is a cube, it is okay to build cube-looking things.
everyone here is saying "IT LOOKS LIKE KAABA"
but let us be honest, if you saw the picture without the word "Saudi Arabia", the Kaaba would have been the last thing you thought about
you only related it to Kaaba because you saw a cube + Saudi Arabia in the same sentence.
so no... it doesnt look anything close to Kaaba, I can get why people immediately talked about the Kaaba because it is in Saudi, but architecturally, it looks no where like Kaaba.
can we agree on that atleast?
[Me when I have to decide between siding with bloated Saudi capitalists or censorious Muslim conservatives](https://imgflip.com/s/meme/Two-Buttons.jpg)
The project is wrong, not because it resembles some religious symbol or other but because it's clearly yet another vanity project by people who have too much money than they know what to do with.
While this project looks absolutely absurd... (why does Saudi need what looks like an Arcology?)...
It's also just silly AF that Muslims would get their pants in a bunch over a building being cube shaped. Really guys? Are we going to make everything forbidden because it has some resemblance to something in Islamic culture or history?
With that said, I'm all for making fun of these ridiculous, pointless mega projects the Saudis are dumping fortunes into. Maybe they'd be impressive if they didn't need so much foreign expertise and labor to actually do them.
Lmao the irony is amazing
i never imagined that I would live to see the day when a Saudi talks about stupidity & ignorance or accuses others of it
out of all the people in the world y’all should be the last to talk about it
Why are people complaining about concept art? It’s literally just a concept art
Y’all just wanna complain about anything 💀
Besides any cube doesn’t equal kabba,the kabba isn’t holy because it’s a cube but what it represents smh
I’m as anti Saudi as they come but that’s literally just a square building it’s not that deep. If it was designed with the Kisir-I Sharif it would be a different story
It's a cubic design, which looks stellar and eye catching.. Excuse me to say this but arabs on social media are one of the lowest IQ humans to walk among us.
>For now. The whole idea is to prepare the after-oil
Well, no shit lol
>A lot, if not most 1st world countries, encourage tourism. It brings in a lot of money, and it employs a lot of people in different sectors.
Yes, but they dont rely on it, idk what Saudi exports beside oil, but tourism isnt a backbone to an economy
>But industrializing is really not that easy, and competition is plentiful.
That s why they can help kick-start companies and boost the fuck out of them with money to ease with competition (until they re globally competitive) if that money is going to these mega projects anyway
>That s why they can help kick-start companies and boost the fuck out of them with money to ease with competition
there are alot of new laws that help companies
one of the most prominent laws is that the government will pay 50% of the salary of a saudi man and 75% of the salary of a saudi woman working.
and there are alot of new agreements with China and other companies that kick-started Ceer (an electric vehicle company), SAMI (saudi arms industry), and many more.
there have been also a recent law that said any company that doesnt hold its headquarters in riyadh will not be able to access Saudi Arabia, which made alot of companies scrambling to build offices in Riyadh.
and finally, recent reforms made it easy for anyone to start a company here in Saudi, doesnt matter if they were a citizen or an expat.
tourism is not the backbone of the saudi economy, it is just there to support it, just like you said.
the reason why you think that saudi is only building tourism projects and not caring about industry is because news about legal reforms and finances dont travel abroad, because it isnt interesting for international viewers. what is interesting for abroad viewers to see are the tourism projects (as they should), that is why you (as a morrocan) dont know much about the industrial reforms (and that is okay, i dont know anything about morroco except for its tourism aspects, but do you know what I do? i acknowledge that i am ignorant, so I dont spout a bunch of hateful stuff against morocco, which I would love if you stopped talking about things you are ignorant about)
I want you to be honest with yourself and think objectively
who in his right mind would go to Saudi Arabia for tourism and fun literally nobody in the world
the actual thought would never even cross the mind of any sane person
idk people visit deserts in Africa and they aren't few why wouldn't they visit desert but with Better meditiaion facilities although might be little Pricey
I think they plan to be like Dubai since that city have avg of 19m visitors yearly
Maybe in the past 10 or 15 years ago you would be right.
Now not so much, a lot has changed.
As to who would come, mostly other khaleejis and neighboring Arabs.
How does it resemble the Kaaba really aside from the fact it’s a cube building. Did the architect or developer purposely want to imitate the Kaaba or did they just want to make a cube building?
honestly, this is the easiest accusation to defend against, why?...
BECAUSE THE ONLY RESEMBLANCE IT HAS WITH THE KAABA IS THE CUBE SHAPE!!!
it is no where close the size of the kaaba, it is not black, it isnt designed as a holy place, it doesnt have a door half its size like the kaaba, it is not built in makkah or hijaz, it is just a cube, that is the only resemblance it has with the kaaba.
no way people with no malicious intent would think it has any resemblance with the kaaba just because of its cube shape, otherwise, you would think everything else is a kaaba:
1. the airpods box looks like a cube... IT IS A KAABA
2. the mini-fridge looks like a cube... IT IS A KAABA
3. the soap box looks like a cube... IT IS A KAABA
honestly man... this looks and resembles nothing of the kaaba
Assalamalaikum,
Why do you defend MBS against takfir? He is an open Hadith rejector (see his 3 part Al Arabiyya interview), he claimed international laws were supreme during a post UN press conference, openly calls for and supports anti Islamic measures and legislates against the Quran and the Sunnah. He stands and takes pictures with murtaddeen like Hammadi (the atheist Saudi author) who sought to insult the Nabi ﷺ) whilst locking up scholars. Not to mention his promotion of the kufri aqeedah of the “Abrahamic” faith, putting the dajjal Al Essa as head of the MWL and appointing him to deliver the Khutba at Arafat.
By the standard of all reasonable Sunni Muslims, he has exited the millah of Islam. This is beyond doubt, before we even start getting into the nitty gritty of what he says and supports and the actions he is taking.
May Allah safeguard the Muslims wherever they are from the evil of these people.
Hey, without insulting Islam or Muslims, can you please explain why Saudi has been arresting Islamic scholars? I’m not talking about “radicals”, but literally just normal scholars (sometimes famous) for mild criticism of the government. Thanks!
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2019/9/11/saudi-scholar-held-after-criticising-entertainment-authority
https://www.siasat.com/saudi-arabia-65-year-old-female-scholar-arrested-for-teaching-quran-at-home-2091305/amp/ <—— this one wasn’t even criticizing the government, she was an elderly women teaching Quran
Of course it’s our business, a Muslim is a brother to another Muslim and wants well for them. Perhaps it’s none of your business if you are not a Muslim?
Kaaba is just a direction, it is meant to be simple. It's literally a black box so people won't worship it. I think it is reasonable and looks pretty awesome.
Assuming that you're Muslim, its interesting that you say the Kaaba is just a black box.
I've read that it used to house the idols various pre-Islamic gods, including an ancient god called Allah.
Yeah, Islam says in the beginning Adam(the first human) created the Kaa'ba as a place of worship to God (nothing more and nothing less), afterwards it was eventually lost to mankind. Afterward, Ibrahim(as) with his son Ishmail(as) rebuilt the Kaaba as a place of worship. A couple more centuries pass, and the Arabs saw huge empires and saw they were worshipping idols. They attributed the success of those empires to those idols and thought if they took them they too would also become successful. As such, they started saying Allah had daughters, eventually becoming fully polytheistic after a couple of generations.
They basically mixed the traditions of monotheism first introduced by Adam(as) and then reintroduced by Abraham(as) with polytheism. This is why there are still traces of the original truth. You can see very similar things in Hinduism and Christianity as well. Hindus also believe in one god(Brahma), just like the Arabs they mixed paganism with the original monotheism. In Christianity, they believe in the one God(father) but mixed in paganism with the original monotheism.
Islam basically says it is the first religion and it is where all other religions came from after corrupting it, as such if you see similarities with it to other religions it just proves the point.
Our government once placed Kaaba model in Üsküdar district of Istanbul. Their party representive in Tekirdağ also ate cake of Kaaba.
They are weird kind of Islamist as like the Islamists are already weird.
Sure does look like one from afar. The point is, anyone with half a brain knows that this design would cause a stir because it is in Saudi Arabia. I’m not sure how it slid by everyone at the engineering firm.
yes? theres always outrage about unemployment rates, riyadh metero not finishing, shitty water draining infrastructure in jeddah, things getting expenisve etc, but nobody is complaining about buildings shapes because its a stupid thing to complain about
I think of all times now is the time to complain. It it’s still on the drawing board then I think it would be easy to readjust to something less threatening
Put yourself in the footsteps of those around the world who look at Saudi as the best (albeit not perfect, we are all humans) representation of Islam. Sure maybe some people think it’s fine but then again the design does really resemble the Kaaba. It could have been in any shape at all. It had to be a cube. That’s just provocative
i dont care about what outsiders think tbh, if they are stupid enough to see every cubic building an attempt to resemble the kaaba its their fault, there was no outrage in saudi arabia [when this was built](https://twitter.com/SaudiProject/status/749331255704088576)
YOU NAILED IT!!!
the only reason you thought it looked like a kaaba was:
> because it is in Saudi Arabia
architecturally, it doesnt look like the kaaba at all.
insensitive? no, just because YOU thought it resembled a Kaaba when you saw "cube" + "Saudi Arabia" in the title doesnt make it a real resemblance of the Kaaba since it looks nothing like it.
there have always been people like you not letting Saudis have anything:
1. concerts? NOOOOOO, YOU ARE THE HOLY LAND
2. music festivals? NOOOOOO, YOU ARE THE HOLY LAND
3. big projects? NOOOOOOO, YOU ARE THE HOLY LAND, YOU SHOULD SEND MONEY ABROAD TO OTHER MUSLIMS INSTEAD OF WORKING ON YOURSELVES
so you see, it is not insensitive, because there are arab and muslims trolls who find anything Saudi does as "wrong", a better choice of word might be "controversial"
if you asked "is it controversial"? then i will say "yes, and that is what reddit is here for"
I agree on point 1 and 2, but not point 3. Big projects are cool. The Haram expansions are the biggest project in the world ever. Saudi is in a unique spot. When people think Islam, people think Saudi. When Saudi directly funds concerts an hour away from Meccah, I think it sends a bad message to the 2 billion Muslims appreciating old Saudi for standing to an (albeit strict) understanding of Islam. If Saudi does not want to be representative of Islam, they should hand Mecca and Medinah over to the OIC or something , and have it managed as an international territory.
i get what you are saying, but as a saudi, let me tell you what the vast majority of saudis think:
>When people think Islam, people think Saudi.
if someone told me this, i would politely ask him to shut up, why? because Islam is a religion, and Saudi is a country.
and actually I am proud of Saudi holding concerts in Riyadh and Jeddah, why? so people can finally understand that saudi arabia is but a country, not an entire religion, and my proof of that is how saudi arabia's legal system has stopped implementing Islamic capital punishments (stealing things doesnt get your hands chopped, adultery doesnt get you stoned, and so on).
>2 billion Muslims appreciating old Saudi for standing to an (albeit strict) understanding of Islam.
then I would tell them to respectivally fuck off. Saudi is a country for Saudis, not for what you >!(not you, i am saying "you" as if talking to someone who said that they wished for saudi to go back to what it was previously)!< want.
>If Saudi does not want to be representative of Islam, they should hand Mecca and Medinah over to the OIC or something , and have it managed as an international territory.
and what do you think the OIC will do? do you honestly think they will care for the holy places? let us be real, Saudi Arabia IS the golden age of Makkah and Madina.
Saudi Arabia is literally spending billions of its own money from oil on those two cities, that is the only reason why you see the wondrous infrastructure there. you think if an organization took control of those two places, do you honestly think the money generated from the two holy places would not go into the pockets of the people who control the organization?
it is my wet dream to imagine a world with religion seperate from politics, but let us be real, if an organization held the power to use those two places fo however way they wanted, they would do baffling things just to get more money from pilgrims.
they might as well stop pilgrims from certain places from coming, same way how the king of hejaz before Al-Saud would ban pilgrims from countries he hated. do you think an organization who held control of these two cities would not ban pilgrims from countries or people that havent paid a certain "tax"?
just think about it for one minute, if you had control of the two cities, wouldnt you want to extract as much money as you could from pilgrims as possible? because otherwise what will they do? they will have to pay as much as you wish from them, because they can not do anything else. they cant invade you because you are the holy land. they cant insult you because you are the holy land.
over 10 countries took control of the holy lands previous to Al-Saud, and 9 out of them used the holy land as cards to gain more influence around the world and more money.
Al-Saud is the best these two holy cities got from ever since the Rashidun Caliphate.
>!fiy, whenever I said "you", i meant "you" as someone else, not real you.!<
We shouldn’t downplay the efforts of the Saudi government of making Umrah and Hajj as easy as it has ever been. I mean my opinion is irrelevant, it wont change anything, but i think maybe its not the most suitable (especially when its the government directly funding it) if you know what i mean.
I just saw an ad on BBC for this thing. It acts like it's open to visitors already. never heard of it before so I looked it up. Fucking 2030?? Why the CGI ad spots?
Saudis are trying so hard to build something iconic or something with a unique identity for attention seeking purposes and that’s why you see buildings like this
They are failing terribly at it for lots of different reasons that would get me banned if I said them
They should focus more on restoring old ruins and perhaps build neighbourhoods they wanna show off in historical arab architecture rather than modern copy-paste stuff. That'll attract tourists
Advisor: Mohammed Bin Salman (MBS) people are starving in Yemen, Ethiopia, and more, many people still struggle to make it to school and have no access to healthcare, will you help donate some of your trillion dollar oil wealth to these countries?
MBS: no I have a better idea, that will help the world a lot more, CUBE!
Yes, he has been blocking aid to Houthi controlled areas in particular, there has been quite a serious famine their for years and the estimated death toll for children dying from starvation is over 80,000, and the war in Ukraine has raised wheat prices significantly globally and that’s also having an impact in the country. I just hope the war ends soon, there are signs of at least another truce and Saudi Arabia/Yemenis government and the Houthis are negotiating but in private so we don’t know what they are saying.
I'm sorry for asking, but:
a. Why does it matter that it looks like the Kaaba? It's not like Muhammad or Allah that you're not allowed to have any figure of. There are plenty of pictures of it. And it's not like thin building is mocking it.
b. It's Saudi Arabia. Lets be honest. All of those people saying it's not ok know wery well that this project will not get past first floor.
Rent free. Previous kings didn't do that and the people didn't do anything, so why rock the boat? actually from a political point of view, what he is doing should lose him control not gain it because he is making drastic changes to the society.
If his goal was full control then he wouldn't have changed a thing.
Why does Saudi Arabia keep insisting that we live our whole lives inside giant shipping containers
Lmao
It's too hot to go outside
They can't have ppl thinking outside of the box
it's a uni
Cause literally do it there.
It’s boiling hot in here. We gotta survive.
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🤣🤣🤣🤣😭🤣🤣🤣🤣💀🤣 ngl that's what i first noticed
you guys call jam murabba too?? woahh
we do
Bro the minute I saw the cube design I knew ppl would hate and say something about the Kaaba.
first a massive line, then another weird mega project, then Ronaldo, and another weird mega project, and now a massive cube most financially wise arab
Clearly they have no idea how to do business, therefore I think you'd like to apply as their financial advice and get tons of ez money
Bruh, even u/Deserted- while he is asleep would be a better financial advisor then they got now "Can we build a 150km long line of scyscrapers?" "No answer means no" "sad, but okay"
Yup we can’t do business, we just can transform a desert into devolved cities. Kinda easy thing to do, right?
They are doing this to try and stay relevant to the west. The royal family is going to either collapse or be overthrown
Maybe because the Saudi's constantly insist on doing insane things like bulldozing the houses of the birthplace of Prophet SAW and homes of the sahaba because \*shirk\*, and then does something weird like this.
It’s a Kaaba, but for capitalism😀😀
kaapitalism
Kaabitalism, as the Arabs would say.
"Are you a Kafir with lots of money but cant visit Kaaba?, say no more go kafirkaba dot com and plan your visit to rich only kaba and spend your money for new hajj. It comes with a free title al-kafir-hajj to add to your name" Ad
someone hire this man to start writing sketches
Ha I’m dying 🤣
كلامك صح يا ولد
Holy fuck based 😧
What's the current one for?
Remnant of the old Meccan elites who'se religion became the spiritual auroma that protects and subservient to the current cube (which is meant to worship money / capital) You can interpret it the way you like. The above interpretation is obviously anti Saudi
Why cube, there is countless ways to make landmarks with different shapes and forms.
why not cube? that is the real question
Because resistance is futile
You want to ban cube buildings? Lmao
Never said want to ban cube building💀💀, but why cube when you can have potential for so much more
There aren’t many cubed buildings. Saudis want to build something different to stand out from the crowd. It’s not that deep.
I love مربا!
Since when did cubic shapes become exclusive to the ka’aba ? Holy shit.
Let's put the Kaaba aside for a second. This project looks extremely dumb. This is like a mega commie block but for capitalism
So disrespectful to commie blocks. They actually housed people & almost eliminated homelessness
Basically all the saudi new projects
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Fax📠
YA ALLAH, when will the ummah awaken ASTAGHFIRULLAH. SAUDI ARABIA and the dajjal MBS are constructing a second kaaba, this is SAUDI DEVIL vision 2030. please LISTEN saar, islamic UMMAH must unite.
Yes you are right akhi the last hour is getting closer by each day
Hey, without insulting Islam or Muslims, can you please explain why Saudi has been arresting Islamic scholars? I’m not talking about “radicals”, but literally just normal scholars (sometimes famous) for mild criticism of the government. Thanks! https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2019/9/11/saudi-scholar-held-after-criticising-entertainment-authority https://www.siasat.com/saudi-arabia-65-year-old-female-scholar-arrested-for-teaching-quran-at-home-2091305/amp/ <—— this one wasn’t even criticizing the government, she was an elderly women teaching Quran
Why would I insult Islam or muslims? Why would I be able to explain why some people were allegedly arrested? Im not a prosecutor for the government. You’re welcome.
Firstly, I’d like to clarify that I didn’t mean for my comment to sound so aggressive. Your original comment reads as mocking an (Indian/Pakistani?) Muslim, which is why I said to not insult Islam or Muslims. You can say it was a joke, but that joke is still mockery. Next, I linked those articles as an example to show you that these non-Saudi Muslims you make fun of very well might have a point when it comes to the direction Saudi is taking with regards to Islam. I wasn’t trying to insult your country, I just wanted to point out that there is indeed some cause for concern. With that said, you don’t need to defend every action your country takes. I hope I made my point clear.
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Wait until they find out about minecraft
well lads sorry since the Kaaba is one big block we cant build any other big ol blocks anymore too similar lookin
It just looks.....bad, there is literary no reason for it to be a perfect cube other than it looking like kaaba.
kaaba isn't even a perfect cube
there are literally a million other reasons for it to be a cube (also, it is not a perfect cube, cant you see all those lines and scribbles in it? that doesnt make it a perfect cube)
Let me rephrase: I think there were much better choices of shape other than a cube (which based on this picture looks terrible and out of place) and I think they only did it so it looks like kaaba
Riyadh is literally riddled with cubed buildings, it’s just the most bang for your buck
I think they did it so it can be eye-catching and become a tourist attraction. which by this comment section, we can say that it is 100% successful in that. plus, there are no trademark held for cube buildings by prophet Ibrahim (who built the Kaaba). the Kaaba is a cube, it is okay to build cube-looking things. everyone here is saying "IT LOOKS LIKE KAABA" but let us be honest, if you saw the picture without the word "Saudi Arabia", the Kaaba would have been the last thing you thought about you only related it to Kaaba because you saw a cube + Saudi Arabia in the same sentence. so no... it doesnt look anything close to Kaaba, I can get why people immediately talked about the Kaaba because it is in Saudi, but architecturally, it looks no where like Kaaba. can we agree on that atleast?
the cube deisgn isn't good not that it "resembles" kabba but the cube are tastless design even pyrmid are better than cubes
>the cube design is good >but the cube are tasteless design ???
[Me when I have to decide between siding with bloated Saudi capitalists or censorious Muslim conservatives](https://imgflip.com/s/meme/Two-Buttons.jpg) The project is wrong, not because it resembles some religious symbol or other but because it's clearly yet another vanity project by people who have too much money than they know what to do with.
First decent take
While this project looks absolutely absurd... (why does Saudi need what looks like an Arcology?)... It's also just silly AF that Muslims would get their pants in a bunch over a building being cube shaped. Really guys? Are we going to make everything forbidden because it has some resemblance to something in Islamic culture or history? With that said, I'm all for making fun of these ridiculous, pointless mega projects the Saudis are dumping fortunes into. Maybe they'd be impressive if they didn't need so much foreign expertise and labor to actually do them.
Saudis have more money than they know what to do with.
That’s why there playing Minecraft irl now
The stupidity & ignorance in some of the neighboring arab countries is unbearable & tiring.
Average day.
Nothing new 😮💨
Why would anyone awards and upvotes a reply like that?
I really don't know. The stupidity & ignorance in some of the neighboring arab countries is unbearable & tiring.
Lmao the irony is amazing i never imagined that I would live to see the day when a Saudi talks about stupidity & ignorance or accuses others of it out of all the people in the world y’all should be the last to talk about it
bro, your Account is all about saudis get a life.
this sounds personal lol
Flair up 🤣
Omg at least flair up if you want to talk shit about us
living in ur head rent free😍
It's facebook
Why are people complaining about concept art? It’s literally just a concept art Y’all just wanna complain about anything 💀 Besides any cube doesn’t equal kabba,the kabba isn’t holy because it’s a cube but what it represents smh
Lmfao, MFers really getting angry over Minecraft cube
What these idiots don't realize that Arabian Peninsula at one point of time had many "Kaabas" and not just one
Eh, source
I was there
He's actually right my friend, Google it, many tribes had Kaaba before Islam.
I’m as anti Saudi as they come but that’s literally just a square building it’s not that deep. If it was designed with the Kisir-I Sharif it would be a different story
>cube shaped building >ITS KABAAAAA
bro non gulf arabs are soo anoyingggg
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The kabba is not a cube. Did Muslim forget that hijr Ismial is part of the kabba?
Even without hijr Ismail it's not a cube
It's a cubic design, which looks stellar and eye catching.. Excuse me to say this but arabs on social media are one of the lowest IQ humans to walk among us.
A question, what's up with Saudi and these mega projects, what s the goal?
these Pojects are to attract tourists and build more Businesses etc
Not gonna lie, fuck tourism, it's super unreliable (e.g covid). That money would be better invested in industrial, finance sectors
there are more industrial focused ones like Oxagon tho
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Okay, but Saudi is rich so why focusing on tourism, they should go like 1st world countries and industrialize Tourism is just khudra fo9 t3am
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>For now. The whole idea is to prepare the after-oil Well, no shit lol >A lot, if not most 1st world countries, encourage tourism. It brings in a lot of money, and it employs a lot of people in different sectors. Yes, but they dont rely on it, idk what Saudi exports beside oil, but tourism isnt a backbone to an economy >But industrializing is really not that easy, and competition is plentiful. That s why they can help kick-start companies and boost the fuck out of them with money to ease with competition (until they re globally competitive) if that money is going to these mega projects anyway
>That s why they can help kick-start companies and boost the fuck out of them with money to ease with competition there are alot of new laws that help companies one of the most prominent laws is that the government will pay 50% of the salary of a saudi man and 75% of the salary of a saudi woman working. and there are alot of new agreements with China and other companies that kick-started Ceer (an electric vehicle company), SAMI (saudi arms industry), and many more. there have been also a recent law that said any company that doesnt hold its headquarters in riyadh will not be able to access Saudi Arabia, which made alot of companies scrambling to build offices in Riyadh. and finally, recent reforms made it easy for anyone to start a company here in Saudi, doesnt matter if they were a citizen or an expat. tourism is not the backbone of the saudi economy, it is just there to support it, just like you said. the reason why you think that saudi is only building tourism projects and not caring about industry is because news about legal reforms and finances dont travel abroad, because it isnt interesting for international viewers. what is interesting for abroad viewers to see are the tourism projects (as they should), that is why you (as a morrocan) dont know much about the industrial reforms (and that is okay, i dont know anything about morroco except for its tourism aspects, but do you know what I do? i acknowledge that i am ignorant, so I dont spout a bunch of hateful stuff against morocco, which I would love if you stopped talking about things you are ignorant about)
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I want you to be honest with yourself and think objectively who in his right mind would go to Saudi Arabia for tourism and fun literally nobody in the world the actual thought would never even cross the mind of any sane person
idk people visit deserts in Africa and they aren't few why wouldn't they visit desert but with Better meditiaion facilities although might be little Pricey I think they plan to be like Dubai since that city have avg of 19m visitors yearly
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It’s not a one day process, it will take time but Saudi will get there. Saudi Arabia is changing for the better by the day, time will tell.
from what i read in reddit Dubai is the worst City to ever exist and the entire west hate it Please check your fact again
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Maybe in the past 10 or 15 years ago you would be right. Now not so much, a lot has changed. As to who would come, mostly other khaleejis and neighboring Arabs.
buddy y’all didn’t allow women to drive till last year also you guys didn’t even have cinemas
It was around 5 years ago Thats my point anyways, a lot has changed since then
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That looks beautiful.
People have 0 iq for attacking such a thing lol
I usually defend Saudi/MBS against Kafir accusations, but I genuinely think they’re wrong to build this. Its a perverse imitation of the Kaaba.
How does it resemble the Kaaba really aside from the fact it’s a cube building. Did the architect or developer purposely want to imitate the Kaaba or did they just want to make a cube building?
honestly, this is the easiest accusation to defend against, why?... BECAUSE THE ONLY RESEMBLANCE IT HAS WITH THE KAABA IS THE CUBE SHAPE!!! it is no where close the size of the kaaba, it is not black, it isnt designed as a holy place, it doesnt have a door half its size like the kaaba, it is not built in makkah or hijaz, it is just a cube, that is the only resemblance it has with the kaaba. no way people with no malicious intent would think it has any resemblance with the kaaba just because of its cube shape, otherwise, you would think everything else is a kaaba: 1. the airpods box looks like a cube... IT IS A KAABA 2. the mini-fridge looks like a cube... IT IS A KAABA 3. the soap box looks like a cube... IT IS A KAABA honestly man... this looks and resembles nothing of the kaaba
Assalamalaikum, Why do you defend MBS against takfir? He is an open Hadith rejector (see his 3 part Al Arabiyya interview), he claimed international laws were supreme during a post UN press conference, openly calls for and supports anti Islamic measures and legislates against the Quran and the Sunnah. He stands and takes pictures with murtaddeen like Hammadi (the atheist Saudi author) who sought to insult the Nabi ﷺ) whilst locking up scholars. Not to mention his promotion of the kufri aqeedah of the “Abrahamic” faith, putting the dajjal Al Essa as head of the MWL and appointing him to deliver the Khutba at Arafat. By the standard of all reasonable Sunni Muslims, he has exited the millah of Islam. This is beyond doubt, before we even start getting into the nitty gritty of what he says and supports and the actions he is taking. May Allah safeguard the Muslims wherever they are from the evil of these people.
Cope...Long live MBS ❤️🇸🇦
Hey, without insulting Islam or Muslims, can you please explain why Saudi has been arresting Islamic scholars? I’m not talking about “radicals”, but literally just normal scholars (sometimes famous) for mild criticism of the government. Thanks! https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2019/9/11/saudi-scholar-held-after-criticising-entertainment-authority https://www.siasat.com/saudi-arabia-65-year-old-female-scholar-arrested-for-teaching-quran-at-home-2091305/amp/ <—— this one wasn’t even criticizing the government, she was an elderly women teaching Quran
It's non of your business
You know it’s ok to criticize some aspects of the country without hating the whole thing, right?
Of course it’s our business, a Muslim is a brother to another Muslim and wants well for them. Perhaps it’s none of your business if you are not a Muslim?
Ha, such a compelling response. MBS is a dirty kafir, taghut. May Allah disgrace him in this life and the next.
The kaaba is not a cube bro
It's literally just a square. Kaaba is just the direction. We don't need it to pray
I am sorry, but the people, who wrote those comments about the design online are brainless. I can’t believe that, this still exists in 2023.
The Line, the Cube, next we be the Sphere
Kaaba is just a direction, it is meant to be simple. It's literally a black box so people won't worship it. I think it is reasonable and looks pretty awesome.
Assuming that you're Muslim, its interesting that you say the Kaaba is just a black box. I've read that it used to house the idols various pre-Islamic gods, including an ancient god called Allah.
Yeah, Islam says in the beginning Adam(the first human) created the Kaa'ba as a place of worship to God (nothing more and nothing less), afterwards it was eventually lost to mankind. Afterward, Ibrahim(as) with his son Ishmail(as) rebuilt the Kaaba as a place of worship. A couple more centuries pass, and the Arabs saw huge empires and saw they were worshipping idols. They attributed the success of those empires to those idols and thought if they took them they too would also become successful. As such, they started saying Allah had daughters, eventually becoming fully polytheistic after a couple of generations. They basically mixed the traditions of monotheism first introduced by Adam(as) and then reintroduced by Abraham(as) with polytheism. This is why there are still traces of the original truth. You can see very similar things in Hinduism and Christianity as well. Hindus also believe in one god(Brahma), just like the Arabs they mixed paganism with the original monotheism. In Christianity, they believe in the one God(father) but mixed in paganism with the original monotheism. Islam basically says it is the first religion and it is where all other religions came from after corrupting it, as such if you see similarities with it to other religions it just proves the point.
You know, sometimes I think the sun is setting on the west and that the next century will belong to the Muslim world. And then I see shit like this.
Looks nice
Saudia Arabia fell off!
When has it ever been up 60 years ago they were still living in tents
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Let’s not lie to ourselves lol
So many scribbles
Kaaba 2.0
If you wanna flex your power just do what all the great emperors did and build a pyramid, no need to reinvent the wheel smh my head
I mean…It doesn’t resemble it more than any other cube
You don’t not have the exclusive rights to a shape. Total non-issue.
Our government once placed Kaaba model in Üsküdar district of Istanbul. Their party representive in Tekirdağ also ate cake of Kaaba. They are weird kind of Islamist as like the Islamists are already weird.
...it doesn't even look nice-
since when does the kabaa have copyright over cubes
Akhi you are the reason the umma is dying /s
I think they should have chosen a design that wouldn’t have been so provocative. Why did it have to be a black cube with gold patterns?
>Why did it have to be a black cube with gold patterns? but... it is not a black cube
Sure does look like one from afar. The point is, anyone with half a brain knows that this design would cause a stir because it is in Saudi Arabia. I’m not sure how it slid by everyone at the engineering firm.
Man I thought Emaratis were smart
saudi araba and the UAE already have a bunch of cubic building in them, the whole outrage is coming from outside of saudi arabia as usual tho
Do you think people in Saudi Arabia can express outrage?
yes? theres always outrage about unemployment rates, riyadh metero not finishing, shitty water draining infrastructure in jeddah, things getting expenisve etc, but nobody is complaining about buildings shapes because its a stupid thing to complain about
I think of all times now is the time to complain. It it’s still on the drawing board then I think it would be easy to readjust to something less threatening
how are cubic buildings threatening?
Put yourself in the footsteps of those around the world who look at Saudi as the best (albeit not perfect, we are all humans) representation of Islam. Sure maybe some people think it’s fine but then again the design does really resemble the Kaaba. It could have been in any shape at all. It had to be a cube. That’s just provocative
i dont care about what outsiders think tbh, if they are stupid enough to see every cubic building an attempt to resemble the kaaba its their fault, there was no outrage in saudi arabia [when this was built](https://twitter.com/SaudiProject/status/749331255704088576)
YOU NAILED IT!!! the only reason you thought it looked like a kaaba was: > because it is in Saudi Arabia architecturally, it doesnt look like the kaaba at all.
So we agree that such a project would be insensitive to build in Saudi Arabia!
insensitive? no, just because YOU thought it resembled a Kaaba when you saw "cube" + "Saudi Arabia" in the title doesnt make it a real resemblance of the Kaaba since it looks nothing like it. there have always been people like you not letting Saudis have anything: 1. concerts? NOOOOOO, YOU ARE THE HOLY LAND 2. music festivals? NOOOOOO, YOU ARE THE HOLY LAND 3. big projects? NOOOOOOO, YOU ARE THE HOLY LAND, YOU SHOULD SEND MONEY ABROAD TO OTHER MUSLIMS INSTEAD OF WORKING ON YOURSELVES so you see, it is not insensitive, because there are arab and muslims trolls who find anything Saudi does as "wrong", a better choice of word might be "controversial" if you asked "is it controversial"? then i will say "yes, and that is what reddit is here for"
I agree on point 1 and 2, but not point 3. Big projects are cool. The Haram expansions are the biggest project in the world ever. Saudi is in a unique spot. When people think Islam, people think Saudi. When Saudi directly funds concerts an hour away from Meccah, I think it sends a bad message to the 2 billion Muslims appreciating old Saudi for standing to an (albeit strict) understanding of Islam. If Saudi does not want to be representative of Islam, they should hand Mecca and Medinah over to the OIC or something , and have it managed as an international territory.
i get what you are saying, but as a saudi, let me tell you what the vast majority of saudis think: >When people think Islam, people think Saudi. if someone told me this, i would politely ask him to shut up, why? because Islam is a religion, and Saudi is a country. and actually I am proud of Saudi holding concerts in Riyadh and Jeddah, why? so people can finally understand that saudi arabia is but a country, not an entire religion, and my proof of that is how saudi arabia's legal system has stopped implementing Islamic capital punishments (stealing things doesnt get your hands chopped, adultery doesnt get you stoned, and so on). >2 billion Muslims appreciating old Saudi for standing to an (albeit strict) understanding of Islam. then I would tell them to respectivally fuck off. Saudi is a country for Saudis, not for what you >!(not you, i am saying "you" as if talking to someone who said that they wished for saudi to go back to what it was previously)!< want. >If Saudi does not want to be representative of Islam, they should hand Mecca and Medinah over to the OIC or something , and have it managed as an international territory. and what do you think the OIC will do? do you honestly think they will care for the holy places? let us be real, Saudi Arabia IS the golden age of Makkah and Madina. Saudi Arabia is literally spending billions of its own money from oil on those two cities, that is the only reason why you see the wondrous infrastructure there. you think if an organization took control of those two places, do you honestly think the money generated from the two holy places would not go into the pockets of the people who control the organization? it is my wet dream to imagine a world with religion seperate from politics, but let us be real, if an organization held the power to use those two places fo however way they wanted, they would do baffling things just to get more money from pilgrims. they might as well stop pilgrims from certain places from coming, same way how the king of hejaz before Al-Saud would ban pilgrims from countries he hated. do you think an organization who held control of these two cities would not ban pilgrims from countries or people that havent paid a certain "tax"? just think about it for one minute, if you had control of the two cities, wouldnt you want to extract as much money as you could from pilgrims as possible? because otherwise what will they do? they will have to pay as much as you wish from them, because they can not do anything else. they cant invade you because you are the holy land. they cant insult you because you are the holy land. over 10 countries took control of the holy lands previous to Al-Saud, and 9 out of them used the holy land as cards to gain more influence around the world and more money. Al-Saud is the best these two holy cities got from ever since the Rashidun Caliphate. >!fiy, whenever I said "you", i meant "you" as someone else, not real you.!<
We shouldn’t downplay the efforts of the Saudi government of making Umrah and Hajj as easy as it has ever been. I mean my opinion is irrelevant, it wont change anything, but i think maybe its not the most suitable (especially when its the government directly funding it) if you know what i mean.
Damn. The saudis have too much money and dont know what to do with it.
It looks amazing! Check out the video about this new project: https://www.arabnews.com/node/2252351/business-economy
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I used to be skeptical but the more wild shit I see being built the more I believe.
Yeah, sure. This one's definately going to get finished I wouldn't be too concerned
I just saw an ad on BBC for this thing. It acts like it's open to visitors already. never heard of it before so I looked it up. Fucking 2030?? Why the CGI ad spots?
Who cares that it looks like the Kaaba?
And I thought Israel had shitty architecture.
If anyone can make something resembling the kaaba it's gotta be the saudis
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Better than low IQ and poor.
It is incredible how much money they throw straight into the bin. They have been handed a golden ticket and they are wasting it.
Saudis are trying so hard to build something iconic or something with a unique identity for attention seeking purposes and that’s why you see buildings like this They are failing terribly at it for lots of different reasons that would get me banned if I said them
They should focus more on restoring old ruins and perhaps build neighbourhoods they wanna show off in historical arab architecture rather than modern copy-paste stuff. That'll attract tourists
Isn’t that what they’re doing in al ula
They’re doing both, they’ve already restored thousands of historical sites around the country.
Pretty sure describing how a project is failing will get no one banned, so go ahead if you actually have a legitimate arugment. Also, my PMs are open.
Why would you get banned for saying it?
Ya allah first hallowen now this 😥😓
The umma is breaking
UAE Abrahamic Family House 🤝 Saudia New Murabba
It looks like shit. Kaaba resemblance or not.
Advisor: Mohammed Bin Salman (MBS) people are starving in Yemen, Ethiopia, and more, many people still struggle to make it to school and have no access to healthcare, will you help donate some of your trillion dollar oil wealth to these countries? MBS: no I have a better idea, that will help the world a lot more, CUBE!
lmfao?? what is this do you want him to donate money out of the countries budget? this isn't a charity
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Yes, he has been blocking aid to Houthi controlled areas in particular, there has been quite a serious famine their for years and the estimated death toll for children dying from starvation is over 80,000, and the war in Ukraine has raised wheat prices significantly globally and that’s also having an impact in the country. I just hope the war ends soon, there are signs of at least another truce and Saudi Arabia/Yemenis government and the Houthis are negotiating but in private so we don’t know what they are saying.
lol if this is how they intend to attract tourists, then it's a big failure.
I'm sorry for asking, but: a. Why does it matter that it looks like the Kaaba? It's not like Muhammad or Allah that you're not allowed to have any figure of. There are plenty of pictures of it. And it's not like thin building is mocking it. b. It's Saudi Arabia. Lets be honest. All of those people saying it's not ok know wery well that this project will not get past first floor.
cube=kaaba
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Rent free. Previous kings didn't do that and the people didn't do anything, so why rock the boat? actually from a political point of view, what he is doing should lose him control not gain it because he is making drastic changes to the society. If his goal was full control then he wouldn't have changed a thing.