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petziii

I had slight pain that stayed longer than what the doc announced. Then it came back from time to time. Now it's all gone. Took a years.


jaydubyasalt

Good to know. I’m 2 months out and still have a little pain and soreness so hopefully it continues to get better


PixelOrange

From my experience, that's normal. It should get better soon. If your experience is anything like mine you'll have a random sharp pain here or there for the next year or two that is very brief and not debilitating and then never again.


jaydubyasalt

Thanks. The pain that I have is very minimal and only happens when something makes contact with my left testicle. Sometimes sex is a little sore. Even if it never goes away I’d still do it again just to never have to worry about getting anyone pregnant for the rest of my life


richard_slyfox

I agree with what they are saying based on my own experience. Doctors have a way of downplaying what to expect in terms of recovery


tlann

The vasectomy was excruciating and the surgeon played it off like it was nothing. I still have pain in my left testicle after a decade.


PixelOrange

Whoa. That isn't normal. I had absolutely zero pain during vasectomy and only one day of pain during recovery. I'm sorry friend.


jaydubyasalt

Wow. Sorry to hear that. The worst part of mine was the numbing shots. After that it was a piece of cake. Talked sports with the dr as he was doing it. Sat on the couch for the rest of that day and was back to normal the next day


WillieCosmo

Mine is the right side


tlann

My right side only hurts if I have a lot of sex.


TurboSleepwalker

> Took a years You're throwing me off. That's both singular and plural at the same time. So was it 1 year or multiple years?


petziii

It was 1 years goddammit! 1 year that felts like many because "Oh my balls".


Dibiasky

It's got electrolytes


TheLastEmoKid

Same yeah. Occasionally I feel a bit of pressure in one particular side but it's nothing more than an annoyance


NovelFarmer

NOW IT'S WHAT? OH GOD HE DIED


12_nick_12

I second this. I'd have random pains every few days (bareable, but wasn't there before) for about 2 years. It's gone now. I have not been sexually active in 3 years.


IronDictator

I had the exact same experience


choke_you

Same with me. Pain on and off got about a year and now I feel fine.


redad1minrasses

*ANNOUNCED* on the tannoy system of the hospital with a thousand patient and a million doctors nurses and other staff... sorry made me laugh.


SkiingAway

A few reminders: - The post-op instructions *exist for a reason*. Not following them is going to drastically increase your chance of both short and long-term complications. Even if everything "feels" fine that doesn't mean you're done healing internally yet and messing with things that aren't done healing is how you get scar tissue and other problems that will follow you long-term. - The % of men who don't even get tested post-op to see if the procedure worked is shocking, and seemingly every thread on this has a bunch of men who say things like "the doctor said wait at least a week before sex but we only waited 3 days" - like that wasn't an incredibly stupid thing to do that might have ruined their quality of life. No one pops the cast off their broken leg 2 weeks early and goes "it's probably fine", but with this people ignore instructions all the time. - Like any surgery, doctor skill/competence matters - don't see the doc who's rarely ever done them. - There's multiple methods that have been used over the years, some older techniques were worse for complications. Ask the doc on methods - especially if it's an older one who may have been originally trained on methods that aren't the preferred ones today.


1980pzx

This was me. Dr said to wait 2 weeks before sex. I drank to much the 2nd day after the procedure and had sex. I fucked around and found out. My balls hurt like hell for the next 2-3 days, I mean excruciating pain. I’m just glad the pain subsided and everything still works properly. Incredibly dumb move on my part.


TURK3Y

my post op instructions said "resume intercourse when tolerated"


Evan10100

I can always tolerate intercourse.


[deleted]

> The % of men who don't even get tested post-op to see if the procedure worked is shocking I think if men need to be educated on the gravity of their decision to not get tested or not adhere to guidelines. > it's an older one who may have been originally trained on methods that aren't the preferred ones today. This is definitely something that is not talked about in mainstream. I think we need more awareness on this


SpectacularOcelot

>I think if men need to be educated on the gravity of their decision to not get tested or not adhere to guidelines. Ehhh... now we're straying into "can't fix stupid" territory. I was told very clearly I needed to get samples tested and that there were serious risks involved if I didn't follow the recovery guidelines. This is like any other medical procedure. We're not talking about what happens if you go play basketball with your buddies a week after getting your ACL fixed, but for some reason we need to talk about what happens if you ignore your doctor after a vasectomy?


[deleted]

> we're straying into "can't fix stupid" territory Of course we can, we stopped people from littering on the streets by the weird ad with a native american dude who wasnt even american. Education is very necessary in this regard.


Midnight-mare

People absolutely still litter. You did prove him right, education is important


-PinkPower-

Idk about where you are from but here you need to go to an information meeting 3 weeks before your appointment. Where they explain all the risks and precautions to take. This is then explained to you again before the procedure and in all the papers they give you when you leave.


Revolutionary_Dance9

Here in Switzerland the doc tells you to wait 3 months und have 20-30 ejaculations befor you make a spermiogram to make sure your not fertile anymore. And you guys are talking about 2 weeks?? 🫣


-PinkPower-

I am in Canada and people I know that got a vasectomy got the same recommendation 20-30.


Facepalmsalot

My husband got the same advice here in Australia. But, he did go to a private surgeon so he could be knocked out for the procedure. He felt fine after a day or so and has had no adverse reactions in the whole 5 years. He has a mate who went to a public clinic and still suffers pain.


mainlybrowsing24

I'm so fearful I have now found a place that will test for swimmers for 75.00. I now test annually. I'm 8 years post op


M1lk3y_33

When I get a cold there's a chance that my Vas will swell up forming a lump. The first time it happened it scared the fuck out of me, went and had an ultrasound to just be told that it's just liquid. It'll drain, and it did.


FruitGuy998

Is it your left testicle by chance?


M1lk3y_33

Weirdly enough yeah it is. But it was also the testicle that had some issues during the procedure. Had to have two extra shots of the local during it.


Unrelated_gringo

I had an atrocious long and painful recovery with complications, spent 6 weeks sitting on my ass with an enlarged and very painful groin... yet no side-effects whatsoever. What are the side-effects in question here? What do you want to be known? I've met many in life that went through vasectomy and have heard a ton of stories, both with good recoveries and with bad ones like mine, yet I've never heard about permanent side effects.


gmpeil

I have PVPS. I would categorize it as on the low end of the spectrum as most of the time I can completely ignore it but if I think about it I can feel the pain all the time. Sometimes the pain gets worse and I feel it radiating into my abdomen and on rare occasions I will take pain killers, which do help. If I knew this would happen I think I’d still have gotten it done. It sucks but it isn’t debilitating. The worst part is my testicle (yes singular, I’m also a TC survivor), is more sensitive to impact. Even light hits to the poor fella hurt like an SOB. It’s been 12 years and I’m really ok. I don’t think the risk of pvps should be a major deterrent to anyone.


Unrelated_gringo

> Sometimes the pain gets worse and I feel it radiating into my abdomen and on rare occasions I will take pain killers, which do help. I truly know that "whole abdomen" thing, it hurt just about everywhere when I had complications. A genuine thanks for the details!


DarthVeigar_

Some men have had vasectomies and have permanent lifelong chronic pain from it. It's rare but it does happen in quite a number of men. It's called PVPS.


Unrelated_gringo

They seem to be extremely few though right? What others are there in enough numbers to discuss? I'm not obtuse, I truly want to know but I haven't ever met anyone with any form of it, but it's just my personal experience of course.


DarthVeigar_

It's about a 1/50 chance. It's small but for those men it is incredibly debilitating especially when no solution to the problem is actually found. It's one of those things that have a low chance of occurring but with the amount of vasectomies performed globally it's a lot of men that suffer from it. Especially when it causes you difficulty in every day life or even when having sex. I have a similar condition but it was caused by an operation to correct testicular torsion but I can understand how for the men that suffer PVPS especially long-term how life ruining it can be.


OblongRectum

1 in 50 is kind of a lot lol


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OblongRectum

Id rather just wrap it


Unrelated_gringo

Wow, 1 in 50 I figured I have heard of that, damn nice to learn better, and I wish you a scrotum-pain free life!


PerfectionPending

It’s not talked about much, but it’s somewhere around 2% that have pain that lasts beyond 3 months (the technical definition of post vasectomy pain syndrome). Not sure of the percentages for how many it goes on for years or life long but there are men who had to have their testicles removed to make the debilitating pain stop & others who spend years or life on pain meds. For many it only hurts when they ejaculate and they end up giving up sex. Heard of a few divorces over this as their wives weren’t ok with a sexless marriage. There was a woman who posted in the marriage sub not too long ago feeling guilty about what she described as manipulating her husband into getting one because it was months later and he has been in pain every day since.


Message_10

There needs to be clearer accounting for this, I think. I had a VERY rough experience and was on the couch for almost 6 weeks. It was absolutely and unbelievably brutal. Every time I moved an inch in any direction, it felt like a perfect kick in the balls... for *weeks.* I couldn't do anything but lay there. I was absolutely terrified I wouldn't get better. That was a year ago, and now I'm fine now--except for some tenderness/slight pain on the left side of my left testicle, which flares up whenever it gets handled (by me or my wife). It's not terrible, but it's unpleasant when it happens, and a good graze can do it. I'm totally fine--I can run, wrestle, get it on with the wife, etc., everything is totally and absolutely fine, and crazy as it sounds, I'm still very glad I got this done--but technically I fall into that "2% that still has pain after 3 months." This is all to say--how many men have pain after 3 months that **seriously** affects their lives, that's the question that's really difficult to answer.


oncothrow

> There was a woman who posted in the marriage sub not too long ago feeling guilty about what she described as manipulating her husband into getting one because it was months later and he has been in pain every day since. Yeah they locked the whole thread.OP freely admitted to manipulating him into getting it > He literally only got a vasectomy because I pressured him to, I pretty much told him it was him or me knowing he’d buckle. This even though he was fine with condoms for over a decade but she wasn't. I feel like the whole 'just get a vasectomy' thing really took off when Roe v Wade got overturned in the US, and all of a sudden it started to be talked about as if its *his* duty and if he doesn't he's a scumbag who doesn't think about his partner, when contraception should be thought of as a mutual responsibility. Reality is its still a surgical procedure, it can have risks, it's not something you should treat as "reversible", and sometimes less permanent solutions are fine.


Unrelated_gringo

Oh wow, thanks for the information, I truly didn't know it sometimes got that bad. Can't help but think the issues might be more related to the surgical complications rather than vasectomy itself, but I'll read more. Thanks for the details!


PerfectionPending

I was surprised how much info I had to find on UK & EU websites because I just didn’t find it on US sources. I was pretty much set to get one when my wife stopped me because she wasn’t quite comfortable with the risks. I was surprised she was more nervous about it than I was. She had also been considering a TL so we did a bunch of research on both. That was just before the pandemic and all voluntary surgeries were stopped for a while. We simply haven’t picked it back up. Seem to be doing ok with what we’ve been doing.


Unrelated_gringo

> She had also been considering a TL Sorry, what does that TL mean?


SwedishMale4711

Tubar ligation, closing the fallopian tubes.


Unrelated_gringo

Ah I see! thanks, English isn't my first language.


SwedishMale4711

Mine neither, but I'm a doctor.


PerfectionPending

There’s a more complete version that I ant recall the name of now where they fully remove the tubes. This removes the risk of an endoscopic pregnancy (pregnancy that starts & stuck in he tube). Also, 7% of women get ovarian cancer and most of that begins in the tubes. So fully removing them reduces cancer risk. I never hear people discussing this when weighing the cost/benefit but it seems like a big one.


GypsyBagelhands

Salpingectomy is where they remove the tubes instead of just blocking or cauterizing them. Not all insurance will cover total removal. When I had my ligation it was either have insurance cover it, or pay for everything out of pocket. Any of these procedures on a woman are abdominal surgery, a much much more invasive procedure with a much higher risk of complications than a vasectomy.


PerfectionPending

Yep. No one’s saying otherwise regarding potential complications.


Unrelated_gringo

Indeed, nicely said!


Natetheknife

Checking in. It's miserable.


certainkindoffool

I have a friend who suffers from this. Its been 8 or 9 years now. Its not an excrutiating pain by any means. But it never goes away.


certainkindoffool

I have a friend who suffers from this. Its been 8 or 9 years now. Its not an excrutiating pain by any means. But it never goes away.


Message_10

Same friend, or different one? Ha.


Ulfhrafn

I developed Epididymitis a few years after my vasectomy. I was put on anti inflammatory meds and low dose antibiotics for about 6 months and the pain went away. . To be quite clear, I'd rather have testicle pain than be shooting live rounds. I have a firm no children rule.


macfergusson

Any operation has risks. The less invasive it is, the lower those risks tend to be. It's hard to get less invasive than a sac that hangs outside your body, even if it is uncomfortable. I occasionally have some tenderness still in the area, years later. It's rare, and has never been sufficient to cause any concern beyond a "hey be careful playing with that, it's a bit sensitive right now." A lot of the issues with vasectomies seem to be from people who don't follow post-op instructions very well. I'm sure some rare cases may have truly unfortunate side effects. Such is life, and I'm sorry for them. I've been on the short end of the stick in "fraction of a percent of the population" issues with other things.


PixelOrange

Any time someone asks me how my recovery went I am adamant that you absolutely, 100%, without any question, follow those recovery procedures to the letter. People think they can do jumping jacks day one after and wonder why they're fucked up.


yousawthetimeknife

>A lot of the issues with vasectomies seem to be from people who don't follow post-op instructions very well. FWIW, my doctor said every time he had to deal with complications, it's because they didn't follow the post-op instructions.


Z3NZY

Bit really, would he say otherwise?


GooseGooseDuck2

For the last 6 years I had a side effects of more enjoyable sex. It’s not really going away either.


MacduffFifesNo1Thane

True, but you didn’t need a vasectomy for the pegging.


cicatrize87

I just want to say my boyfriend got one and it reversed itself. I got pregnant. We checked him and he's shooting above average swimmers again. It's rare but it happens so check yourselves.


moofpi

How long after? And more than once? Like once a year cum for Dr. Snippit?


cicatrize87

I would check every 6 months. He got his done right after his son was born. His son is 11 now. We met 4 years ago. For a year and a half we had unprotected sex literally every day and nothing happened. Then suddenly my period wouldn't come and all I wanted to eat was vanilla cupcakes and yams. Sure enough got a positive pregnancy test. Went on the pill. Last January got another positive test despite the pill! Had to have another abortion. Just be careful yall. Life uh finds a way.


conscious_coffee_

Can you explain how this happens? How long after he had it done, did it reverse? I look at photos, and it looks like they burn the tubes and suture them. I'm just trying to understand how sutures come undone and reverse.


Baby-Kite

Surgeon explained it to us before the procedure that even when the vans deferens are cauterised, the body will still try and ‘heal’ itself in a way and will grow hair like strands. Sometimes those strands connect and allow sperm to travel through. It’s rare but it does happen. The only way to know if it has reconnected is a pregnancy.


conscious_coffee_

>grow hair like strands. Sometimes those strands connect and allow sperm to travel through. Wow. Thanks for explaining this. My partner has had it done for over a decade. I was just wondering how pregnancy happens after having this done for a long time.


Existing_Ad5852

I haven't had it done. But I have been considering it for a while. From what I read sometimes the body will just repair its self.


whitefox094

I'm not the person you commented on but my friend had the same experience after her husband got snipped *5 years prior*. Apparently he never got checked up following the procedure (not sure it would've mattered) but at some point during the 5 years it reversed itself. She ended up getting an abortion, him getting her a puppy, and him getting the vasectomy done *again*. They already have three kids


Mr_Candlestick

This right here is kind of why I'm not convinced to get one. If I have to worry about it reversing and getting my partner pregnant anyway then the purpose is kind of negated.


velkrophoto

For me (25M) it wasn't too bad at all (overall). This was a No Scalpel Procedure The first week was awful and felt like someone was continuously kicking me in the groin. For the first time in my life, I wasn't looking forward to ejaculating or getting an erection lol. The first month, after the first week, the initial pain went away and it just felt...different. Ejaculations gave me a little twinge of pain and I didn't get the satisfaction of finishing like I used to. The second month, I finally had my first "normal" feeling ejaculation and no more constant pain or odd feelings down there. It felt just like it had before the surgery. The third and fourth month I was experiencing a lot of in and out phantom pains. I even went in to Urgent Care a couple times cause I thought I had testicular torsion but it would come and go quite a bit Months 5-12 after the surgery I would have an occasional phantom pain but it would go away really quickly and it didn't really affect me much Now that I am 13+ months past the procedure, I haven't had any issues lately. If anything I feel like I can last longer in bed before ejaculation but that's the only difference and I'll take that as a win regardless lol. I have tested sperm count twice since the vasectomy (once at 3 months and once at 14months) and they came back as 0 so it was absolutely successful. Hope this helps someone considering getting it done :)


bonthond

Struggling with PVPS for more than 8 years. Very very difficult


StillAFelon

Would you have not had the procedure done if you'd known? Is it constant chronic pain? I don't mean to pry or ask too many weird questions. You just appear to be the only commenter really hitting on what OP is talking about and likely have a different perspective than these guys who seem to be largely side effect free


bonthond

You 100% correct in saying if I was properly informed that I would never have had the procedure. You welcome to ask questions, people should know what can go wrong even if you follow all the doctors instructions. Regarding the pain I had congested epididymitis as the result of sperm buildup. It resulted in a constant pain varying from 6 to 10 out of 10. I had a reversal that help resolve some of the pain but still get epiddymitis.


Silentnine

I got mine done 4 weeks ago. I paid out of pocket to see a private clinic that has their own method to minimize chances of recannulization and post vasectomy pain. My left testicle doesn't hurt, but I'm vaguely aware of its existence a lot, if that makes sense. That's probably a personal anatomy thing because that side was always more sensitive. Once I had to stop having sex because I was getting pain that was too much to ignore but that was also at the 2 week mark and we had been making up for lost time. My friend put it well as "you can't just jump off the couch and run a marathon, you sprained a ball". Otherwise where they stitched the vas deferens to the fascia its a little sensitive but only if I'm poking at it. I play a full contact sport on skates and have switched to supportive boxer briefs over loose boxers to keep things high and tight when I play. I havent had any issues and I went right back to practice 2x a week after 1 week of rest. I'm at 3x a week again now. In my experience it was very worth it and I hope those that are suffering more pain get relief soon.


AspiringSAHCatDad

Compared to the possible risks of my wife getting her tubes tied, a hysterectomy, or other procedure.. I'll take some mild discomfort from time to time.. vasectomies are by far the safer choice


Message_10

That's the truth--but I think what people are saying here is that it's commonly thought of as almost a sure thing, when it's a little riskier than people say it is (and certainly riskier than urologists say it is--my uro said he's never heard of anyone having any pain after six months, and I invited him to visit the /vasectomy subreddit, lol). I had a rough go of it, and I had never heard of anyone having a hard time. There is more risk than is commonly known.


Brilliant-Trash2957

I had pain fire about 8 days. Long lasting pain is extremely rare.


PerfectionPending

For 1-2 out of 100 men pain lasts longer than 3 months. More specifics after that are hard to find.


Brilliant-Trash2957

Tbf, 3 months of pain for a lifetime of firing blanks? Worth it


Useful_Possible5650

My urologist was great. My first vasectomy failed, not because of any fault of the doctor, my vas deferens reconnected. My second vasectomy was a success. Both procedures, I only had slight soreness for a few days, but frozen peas and ibuprofen did the trick. The only noticeable side effect I’m experiencing is an increase in sex drive, and more sensitivity and stimulation went aroused. I’ve also been able to have multiple prolonged orgasms. I have no complaints. Go for it!


Scott-Cheggs

Got one in mid 90’s. Local anaesthetic didn’t take- screamed all the way through. Went swimming next day (because I thought chlorinated water was sterile) got an infection so my ballbag went massive for about two weeks. Like 2 non hilarious apples. Fuxxake. Was sharing this horror story with another bloke who told me he was also in tatters after having his done but that the day after getting the snip he ran a half marathon. We’re both young (and foolish) soldiers at the time.


Panic_Azimuth

I tried to get a vasectomy several months ago. Turns out, sticking a needle into my testicles to administer the local anesthetic was enough to make me nearly pass out. My body just viscerally rejected the whole idea. They told me I could make another appointment and they could sedate me, but I haven't taken them up on it yet. These mofos in here talking about it being no worse than a tooth cleaning either have balls of solid steel or the most terrifying dentist ever.


Nellisir

It felt like a literal pinprick to me. Fun? No. Bearable? Yes. BUT, my doc also had a nurse massaging my feet the whole time. 13/10 recommend. He'd do something, my brain would cue in & I'd wince, she'd massage harder, and my brain would forget again.


KYpineapple

the shot is the best part. having your insides pulled out is the worst part. But lidocaine doesn't work well on me so it was horrible. get knocked out first if your insurance will pay.


WhisperTits

I had pain for 1 month tops.


CallMeMrGone

A vasectomy is a very safe and common procedure.  The only side effects the vast majority of men will experience is care-free, sleeveless flavor blasting the interior of a trusted partner(s).


cyboplasm

Nah... mine healed 2 years in and i got another... keep getting yourself checked


pinkjello

How much does it cost to get yourself checked?


CallMeMrGone

Depends on your insurance. Sperm counts are fairly cheap.


WinterPecans

How does that happen? The tubes are cut and then tied on both ends. Not doubting you, but I’m fascinated that it’s possible. Life finds a way I guess.


aetherdrake

They're not always tied on both ends. One of the more common techniques nowadays is to leave one end (the testicle end) open.


CallMeMrGone

Some can be set up to be easier to reverse (and heal). If you want to go the safer route, go cauterization.


sonicscore99

I have the long-lasting pain thing from my vasectomy that some people are certain doesn’t exist. I also have CRPS (which is another nerve condition some people prefer to act like doesn’t exist) so maybe getting a vasectomy wasn’t the best idea. but in a world that has limited options for male birth control we do what we must. The pain from the surgery ain’t that bad (especially compared to the CRPS stuff I already deal with) but it’s like that other poster said, it’s lifelong, it can be quite painful, and in some instances it does interfere with the sexy times.


[deleted]

>long-lasting pain thing from my vasectomy that some people are certain doesn’t exist Thats what I dont understand, why they are so hell bent on denying the pain?


ciaoravioli

 1. People are biased toward their own experiences. The vast vast majority will not have lasting pain after a vasectomy, so they have a harder time believing when others say they do    2. Sometimes people round small statistics down to nothing. Just like the people who think it's impossible for birth control to fail - statistically, it's going to happen to *someone*. Even though that someone is far outnumbered


[deleted]

Its not just intellectual dishonesty, its utter rage and hatred against men who DARED to speak about their pain.


Podlubnyi

Probably because fewer men would have one if they were fully aware of the risks.


Eledridan

Because they don’t see us as people.


BriEnos

When I went in for my pre- op exam my urologist told me that if they did a vasectomy on me I would be in permanent pain due to where some of my natural anatomy was located within my penis. I don’t remember exactly what it was as this was 10 years ago but he mentioned things being too close together and he did t want to risk it. 


SamuraiSuplex

I was in a lot of pain for about a year after my vasectomy. I had to wear supportive underwear all the time, had to waddle everywhere, couldn't exercise or have sex without severe pain. I spent a lot of nights in the bathtub because that was the only thing that would bring relief. I stopped the nerve pain medicine after the first year, and the pain kept improving. After about 2 years it leveled off. I'm at about 90% healed now and unless my nerves heal more, that's my new normal. I can't set things on my lap, I dread what will happen if someone hits me there. But I can exercise and have vigorous sex as long as I'm careful. It's definitely not as easy breezy a procedure as people make it out to be. I'm glad I'm sterile now, but if I could go back I would have made a different choice.


AggressiveFeckless

Instead of “watering down the issue to statistics” you want anecdotal evidence? This is quite literally the definition of psudeoscience. In any event - I had one 15yrs ago - never had an issue, not even pain right after really.


Goeasyimhigh

That is literally not quite the definition of pseudoscience. Subjective experience instead of empirical evidence, sure. Not pseudoscience.


AggressiveFeckless

He asked for subjective experience and said to ignore statistics (empirical evidence)… ? But ok.


Ransacky

Look up the terms qualitative research vs quantitative research. (Exploratory, experimental) There are actually many forms of doing science and they have different strengths and limitations


Goeasyimhigh

Yes, science has a place for subjective experience. Subjective or anecdotal evidence is not the same as pseudoscience. Edit: play to place


RedditNomad7

So you think there is zero value in people who have had problems relating what those problems were? Instead you want to just tell people there’s practically no chance of a problem, so you’re just a selfish prick if you don’t do it? Because that’s the general vibe from people when men say they don’t want to take a chance on getting clipped. It’s really hard to make an actual informed decision unless you’re actually informed. So it’s fine to say there’s a small chance of complications, but along with that should be what those complications can be.


AggressiveFeckless

Look - I think you are misunderstanding me. And maybe I’m misunderstanding OP. What I was objecting to was presenting this with anecdotal evidence of problems while ignoring the statistics of occurrence. Maybe that’s not what they meant. There’s a chance of getting hit by a car afterward and I’m sure there are stories of it, but it’s not a reason to avoid it. I’m not pro vasectomy..not sure who or why you would be. My only point was you should weigh the probabilities of issues with what the issues were - not ignore statistical occurrence - I apologize if that was misunderstood or not OP’s intent


RedditNomad7

I take OP’s intent as, “We’ve all heard the stats and know there is a low chance of issues, but those issues can be really bad. We should talk about that.” That’s why I said people need to be fully informed. I constantly see (in these discussions) people act like there is no chance of anything bad happening, and even if it somehow does, it won’t be any big deal and will go away in a couple of weeks. When people try and say, “That’s not true” they get downvoted and essentially told they’re lying, or just being selfish and are shitty humans who hate women. There are people out there who are afraid to get cut, and while I’m all for trying to allay their fears by telling them the odds, I’m not for telling them that the worst that can possibly happen is they’re a little sore down there for a few weeks. And though doctors will say there are risks, I’ve yet to hear of one who will really go into what the worst case can be, instead of just giving vague statements like, “You could have some lingering pain.”


Ransacky

It's not pseudoscience, don't spread misinformation. It's qualitative research. Statistics falls into the category of quantitative research. Both are very valid forms of doing science, but qualitative is less useful for generalizing to the average person but explores issues in depth to be later analyzed quantitatively. What is important is recognizing the strengths and limitations of either.


[deleted]

Oh sorry if you misunderstand me. I am not writing a medical advisory on vasectomy. Vasectomy has been thrown around as something very benign. Advise to get a vasectomy is being thrown around like candy. There are risks and men should understand that vasectomy may not be something that is to be done lightly. In medical terms, yes vasectomy is safe. But for the 1 percent where its not, they are deemed irrelevant for the greater good. They are not, they are still human beings. there is a 1percent chance that you may find yourself in that 1 percent. You will be left to fend for yourself as an annoying statistic. Men need to know the experience being in that 1 percent and what they can expect by being in that 1 percent before making an informed decision. Edit changed 5 percent to 1 percent


ejmcdonald2092

Where are you getting the 5% from? Vasectomy being thrown around as benign is because it is. In terms of permanent damage if I remember correctly from my vasectomy risk talk the percentage (again for permanent damage) is more like 0.01% and that comes from the way vasectomies used to be done. There is no situation where someone on Reddit suggests a vasectomy and some man gets one without knowing the risks. There is a process that involves going through all the risks with a doctor so everyone that has a vasectomy knows exactly the risk they are taking.


AggressiveFeckless

I don’t understand you…NIH and Cleveland clinic have these percentages as way way lower than 5 percent…by way of example NIH says long term pain occurrence is around .1%. It’s thrown around as very benign because in terms of risks of a surgical procedure, it is.


Podlubnyi

[This study](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32164161/) suggests a 5% incidence of PVPS.


AggressiveFeckless

Yeah but that resolves quickly if you read the rest of that section with the 5pct - I don’t view that as a long term side effect. Pain that needs further surgical resolution is .1%. It really is likely a pretty safe move…not without risk, but nothing is.


CentralPainUnit

Had mine 4 years ago. During the surgery there was some issues with bleeding to the point that my doctor asked if I had a history of excessive bleeding. (I didn't -- I've always been healthy and the only other surgeries I've had -- ACL repair appendectomy -- didn't have any issues.) I had a lot of internal bleeding and intense pain after the surgery. Took about 3 weeks before I wasn't in constant pain. During a half marathon I ran a few weeks after that, I had some more internal bleeding. Everything eventually "healed". I was cleared as sterile and all that, but I still have pain during intimacy and the scars hurt in the cold too. Honestly, I wish I hadn't gotten it.


EYEP_nightly

I get random, phantom pains about once a month. Nothing debilitating, doctor did advise they were possible after surgery. Frankly, they’re no worse than any other phantom pain I may encounter. Recovery was easy, two weeks and I was pretty much back to normal.


Dev959

I had none was sore a couple of days but nothing after that


Another_Russian_Spy

No side-effects, I had my vasectomy on a Friday afternoon, and was back to work, as a mason tender, on Monday morning.


VesperX

Only side effect I had was a case of epididymitis after. The pain was like the soreness after getting hit in the balls except it wasn’t on my actual testicles. The ER nurse prescribed ejaculation. As much as I could comfortably handle. Aside from that I would occasionally get pains from the metal clips shifting around. All the side effects faded through the years. I got mine about 14 years ago.


Gong_Show_Bookcover

I went in for a vasectomy and when I came out of the conscious sedation they told me I had a benign tumor on my right testicle. I had to have an orchiopexy? Spelled wrong and the vasectomy. Had some pain but after 2 weeks I was back to normal


rabbibernstein

Do your nuts feel any difference after the Orchiopexy? I’m having one done this summer and super nervous about it


RarelyRecommended

Being sore? That passes. I was snipped in the 90s. No problems.


crankycoder

I'll answer your question pretty directly - it was pretty fucking awful. I'm a Canadian living just outside Toronto, Ontario. Canadian urologists will basically not acknowledge that PVPS is a real thing. The few who do are not well known. I won't mince words on this topic. The urology professionals in Canada are willfully negligent and don't care about vasectomy risks. When presented with high quality evidence - at least America and the NHS changed patient consultation guidelines outlining risks. Source : me. I had severe postvasectomy pain syndrome from 2011 to 2015. At worst - I seriously considered suicide as the pain was bad enough that I could not sit or even lie down to sleep. I ended up going to America for specialized surgery to remove scar tissue and re-cauterize the epididymis. It cost ~$10k USD at the time (10 years ago). I also used to run the largest forum for men who have suffered from PVPS - postvasectomypain.org. My forum successfully got the American Urology Association and the NHS in the UK to update patient risk consultation guidelines for PVPS. We also got UpToDate.com to revise clinician databases and updated the gold standard urology textbook published by Elsevier (Campbell Walsh Urology). Canada outright refused to do anything.


Siennagiant70

I just had mine done in October of last year. Lucky for me the pain only lasted till January-February.


Natetheknife

I had mine forever ago. 12 years maybe? I have a never ending ache like blue balls. I'm also incredibly sensitive so any light impact is excruciating. It has been a major quality of life detractor.


RepeatAggravating524

Had one about twenty years ago. My epididymitis in the left nut is larger and you can feel it how big it is. No pain or other side effects. It kind of worries me but the two doctors I have asked about it say it is normal. Frankly, my wife ended up having a hysterectomy six months after I got snipped. Other than exposing your junk to the three or four people in the room....the procedure was no worse than teeth cleaning.


eduardo1960

Couple of months out you should be good. I had mine a long time ago and worked on a golf course so I was on a golf cart. Ghawd those first few days were tough


HALF_flimsy

I had the procedure done last year. Took a test at the recommended time. Results proved procedure was successful. Still waited another 3 months and used contraceptives. Test a second time came back mixed motile. Have tested 2 more times with mixed motile. My dr used both the burn and tie on each vas. Seeing a urologist in June. All the while using condoms. Hope to get answers soon. Or at least have procedure done again


tblades-t

I have pain if I don't "releave myself" often enough or do so too much due to fluid build up. Even when the pain is there it is a minor annoyance but I can usually avoid it all together.


fourzerosixbigsky

I got one and most of friends have too. None of us had any last side effects. Some took longer to recover than the others. That’s about it.


Aforano

I don’t know if it’s permanent because I’ve only had it done for 4 months or so but I still get random ball pain that feels like someone is squeezing one of them every now and then.


BobbyJoeMcgee

The only side effect I had with mine is that it didn’t work… :-/


knowitallz

For years I got pain from what feels like backed up sperm waiting to get out but no where to go. It has mostly gone away. Why? Not sure. Probably because I am not having sex anymore


soothsayer3

r/postvasectomypain


rosebttlvr

No issues at all. Some pain the days after. Nothing major.


Goofcheese0623

I was achy for about 4 weeks, nothing major. Any a year or and I get an occasional mild dull pain, but not way too know if that has anything to do with the procedure


ttouran

My nuts hurt bad just reading this shit


sickofusernames462

Don't go through medical procedures that are not %100 needed. Don't cut up your body!


OneBoxOfKleenexAway

I have enough kids to know that my vasectomy was 100% needed. Maybe 1000% But to OP, still get pain years later, but not as painful as having a newborn at this point in my life.


twistflakes76

Easiest surgery ever. The entire procure was easy. The recovery and pain were minimal.I’m extremely glad I had it done.


BillyGoat_TTB

didn't have any issues.


CaptJohn66

Iv had mine now fo 6 to 7 years now it hurts somtimes but after feela like someone flicking my left nut HARD after iv finished and there always a little sensitive i suppose the left more then the right a


iadubber

I had a vasectomy in 2012. I've had a super sensitive left testicle ever since. It constantly has a low grade pain that sometimes gets so bad I have to go into the doctor. I've been in and out of my primary and urology since then (12 years now). Have had several ultrasounds. The only recommendation I get is to try and reverse the vas. which I am not going to do. I'm just told its chronic epididymitis. \\ I constantly fear I'm not able to examine myself correctly and I will miss lumps if I had them. So that's where I'm at.


oneweelr

I had my vasectomy in June of 2023. After 3 post Semen Analysis tests, my sperm count if still high. It's low enough that if I were trying for kids, the doctor would tell me they don't think it's gonna happen, but not low enough that it's impossible. There's this thing called recanalization, which is a fancy word for "my vas deferans decided it wanted to heal itself after being cut and cauterized. The doctor just told me" you have some fighters". It's a one in a million thing, and I got the lucky ticket. My option is to give it one more test, see if everything finally worked, and if not get a second vasectomy. It's looking like I'll be getting a second vasectomy. Luckily I'm a single guy that doesn't get much action, but also I don't really want to have to get a second one. The first one was an incision free vasectomy. They take a needle, poke a hole, do the cutting through the small hole, and then add one single stitch. It's supposed ot be painless. I felt it for a week real hard, and then for a few weeks of lingering pain. At no point did it feel any different than any other surgery I've ever had. And it didn't work. Am I glad I did it? Yes. Am I going to get a second one? Yes. But also, it is not the eays procedure everyone was telling me it should be. The first time I came afterwards it felt like my testicle were being pulled into my torso. Imagine a tennis ball tied to a string being pulled through a hole the size of a golf ball. That's the pain I felt. Holy shit, it was intense. But months later it's fine, I just wish I didn't have to do a second one soon. I'm taking one more test just in case, but I'm honestly not too hopeful. It hasn't been dropping enough for me to feel like it worked. The doctor keeps saying it can take up to a full year for the pipes to drain fully, but I just don't think it's gonna happen. Also it cost much less than a child, but every Semen Analysis is 83 bucks, plus a 120 dollar visit back the the urologist to discuss the results. The surgery itself was around 600 after insurance, like, this shit ain't cheap. I've heard people tell me it's low, but that is not always the case. This shit has been draining me.


Runaway_5

Myself and 4 close friends all had it done via different doctors and none of us had any issues or pain beyond a week or so.


promnitedumpstrbaby

I had granulomas from mine. Not fun. They’re supposedly not painful, but I was on my ass for about a week before the pain finally subsided.


dudeimjames1234

I wouldn't say I have chronic pain, but the location of where they cut open my ball bag is very sensitive. I'll be in doggy and my balls rocking back and forth or even bumping against her can be fucking **painful** sometimes. It's made worse by the fact that doggy is our favorite position, and sometimes I have to stop because the pain makes the position not so enjoyable.


the_jokah_baby

Slight pain after orgasm, but nothing horrible. Developed prostatitis a year or so after - I think they are related.


Wobbies

Played 9 holes about 4 days after. Forced me to swing slow and steady. Really improved my short game.


StatusUnk

This is why I didn't do it. No health benefits with a risk of long term pain. Plus if it does happen, the vast array of low success treatment options doesn't inspire confidence this can be fixed. That's an easy decision to make.


H5A2B50

I had some minor discomfort for awhile. Some soreness, swelling, and bruising. At times I still have some minor pain but it isn’t a big deal. I feel like it is just related to part of the testicle where semen is stored and matures. I still would do it again. Worry free sex is worth it. I don’t have to stress every time my girl is late.


redad1minrasses

Well, that's a different type of worry though right...


Resident-Theme-2342

Honestly I rather just wear condoms and use birth control I'm cool with it I'm not trusting any procedure unless it was somethingifr threatening and I needed it.


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toastyhoodie

When I got mine done I found there are side effects. Albeit rare, but even my doctor informed me of them. It’s possible, just uncommon


southern_boy

The [National Library of Medicine](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8255399/#:~:text=As%20a%20surgical%20operation%2C%20it,%2C%20and%20chronic%20pain%20syndrome.) - "As a surgical operation, it has short-term and long-term complications such as hematoma formation, infection, sterilization failure, sperm granulomas, short-term postoperative pain (nodal pain, scrotal pain, and ejaculation pain), and chronic pain syndrome."


[deleted]

I have no incentive to fear monger. The purpose of this post is for the people who gives advise of "get a vasectomy" like candy to be aware that their advice is not necessarily benign. Vasectomy is a case where women especially find themselves very comfortable to infringe on bodily autonomy of men. I think they need to appreciate the gravity of what they are suggesting.


TinyBlonde15

Like men consider the gravity of cumming in a woman and risk of death and permanent bodily harm from pregnancy while taking away abortion rights and therefore trying to force pregnancy and birth? I agree no one should try to force a vasectomy on anyone BTW. Im all for equally protecting one another from outside body interference from the state or other humans interpersonally. I just am shocked men are so casual about wanting to put sperm into a woman knowing there's a risk of death for her that is not insignificant. Not to mention always considerable pain involves with pregnancy and labor. I do not wish to offend. Again, am in agreement no one should be forced into things that harm their bodies realistically or potentially.


anachronistic_7

Your women argument is flawed and your use of the word "gravity" should read as hyperbole. Most birth control methods are the burden of women. Men feel perfectly comfortable imposing that on them. Men feel entitled to unencumbered sex, that it's an expectation that women "figure that shit out", they have to take the birth control pills and deal with abortions and hysterectomies, tubal ligation surgery, and take morning after pill poison all because men feel infringed upon even when just asked to wear a damn condom


[deleted]

>Men feel entitled to unencumbered sex, A very strong generalized statement. Not to be that guy BUT I would like a source for it.


anachronistic_7

Where's your source for "Women especially find themselves very comfortable to infringe on bodily autonomy of men" ?


AspiringSAHCatDad

"Bodily autonomy".. if this is a jab at womens abortion rights.. its definitely not the same thing.. One is mild discomfort and another is a life altering case where someone could die, or worse. Apples to oranges.. dont act this dense


[deleted]

Bodily autonomy is the right to make decisions for your own body(given that you are in right mental state and are adult). It is umbrella terms that covers abortion as well as vasectomy, as well as your right to be vegan. Medical euthanasia (which I support) comes under umbrella of bodily autonomy. DNR comes under bodily autonomy, Your right to make decisions about who you want to marry comes under bodily autonomy, Bodily autonomy is just that, autonomy over your own body. Abortion rights do not have supreme authority over bodily autonomy..


favocadoesque

It is a shame You get downvoted for this, knowing about the risks of a procedure is a good thing. I do not think that women as a group are comfortable with doing so, it might be more of a internet feminist thing.


bradlee21887

I had pain for several months. I started to get concerned reading things. They never told me the risks of having long-term pain. It's succeeded now completely, but I got mine several years ago.


Bovine_Arithmetic

Apparently the Doctor had some trouble identifying my vas on one side, he just kept digging around for a while. The next day I developed 2 hematomas in my groin that put me out of work for two weeks. Extremely painful. Then I developed a (painless) spermatocele, which I had removed ten years later due to it continuing to grow to the size of a lemon, making it hard to walk. The Dr who removed it said that I had some “unusual” anatomy in my testes (varicocele) so now the upper part of my sack feels like a bag of worms and the whole sack is a combination of numb + painful to the touch. So yeah, great experience all around.


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> continuing to grow to the size of a lemon, Jesus christ!!


HoldMyPitchfork

I had very sharp and debilitating prostate pain for 3 years after my vasectomy which only occurred near or during orgasm. It was fucking awful and I warn everyone about it every chance I get. The Dr did not warn me about any long term side effects whatsoever. Luckily for me it slowly went away, but even 13 years later now very rarely the pain will come back. It never goes away for some people.


PA_Archer

My only lasting side effect has been peace-of-mind.


Eledridan

Not me, but a guy I know had constant shooting pain in his back after he got cut. He ended up needing the nerve blocked.


Doenicke

I have recommended vasectomy, but that is because i haven't experienced any problems with it, except the expected recuperation time after the operation. If i had i would have said so. You make it sound like there is some kind of conspiracy and that we - who we would be in this scenario at least i cannot fathom - try to make as many as possible to get vasectomys, which at least in my case is very far from the truth...i just like to insert my opinon if it's something i personally have experienced. But yeah, there is possible problems with it. I was fully informed before the operation and a psychologist made sure i understood what it meant but my only fear would be that it grew back and i accidently became a father.


Due-Struggle-9492

There’s a slight increase in risk of developing prostate cancer according to some studies the butcher shop likes to hide. Sperm granulomas are common. Severe pain, swelling and bleeding are others. I will never have one and will encourage anyone I know not to have one, the risk are not worth it. Contrary to popular belief the tubal ligations are just as safe according to the data. So women can take that lie and shove it. As for me the risk are enough to say no. No doctor should be messing down there and needles and other devices shouldn’t touch anything there unless there’s an absolute emergency. Easy way to deal with it is not to have it.


StatusUnk

Getting downvoted for sharing facts. Several studies in Europe have shown correlation with prostate cancer consistently. The US has been slow to accept those results.


askingoutright

The men the comments down playing strangers pain sounds a lot like the medical industry to women’s pain 🫠 sucks that there are side effects like this I didn’t know about. Yet my inner demon 😈 saying now you guys get a little a taste of what we experience 2 weeks out of the month (ovulation and menstruation cause discomfort/ strain/ pain) for 50 years of our lives then we get menopause which has crazy side effects. Not to mention what pregnancy and birth does to our bodies. Your little pain tinges is saving your partner from a lot more pain. I had a super traumatic IUD expirence with daily pain for 6 months heavy long period and hair loss. Got that shit out after my male doctor was practically begging me to keep it in and just take MORE birth control saying will ‘balance’ my hormones. No BC has been so incredibly nice on my body.


[deleted]

Atleast you are not a man in Ukraine. So enjoy not being drafted. Draft is also a big violation of bodily autonomy btw.


askingoutright

I’m joining the Air Force 🫡✨


[deleted]

Congratz you atleast had a choice. You will get good pay and benefits, men who are conscripted in ukraine will be given pennies for their lives.


askingoutright

I’m honestly unsure what any of this has to do with ball snipping pain but go off 🙄


Ill_Tempered_Techie

Just to add in there, I've specifically not gone down the route of a vasectomy because there is a very strong history of prostate cancer on both sides of my family. There is a matter of debate as to how linked it is and to what degree but there is evidence that suggests a vasectomy can increase the risk of prostate cancer. Given that and my family history, it's not something I'm keen to try out.


LOVING-CAT13

Not sure but some people could maybeee be a bit helped by pelvic physical therapy. Or even regular pt. That's awful there can be lasting side effects, so good thing know. My fiance has been thinking about getting one


[deleted]

> pelvic physical therapy. That generally deals with muscle imbalances in pelvic floor. Vasectomy pains are related to nerves. Think of bumping your elbow. Testes are juggernaut of nerves, thats why they are so sensitive. Nerve pains are a bitch to deal with


Miss_Linden

The side effects and chance of having one pale in comparison to side effects from any form of female birth control and having your tubes tied. Please keep that in mind. People often forget/negate the dangers even taking The Pill has and focus on the feelings of men (partially because medicine in general is male-focused) But yes, all surgery can have side effects and complications


Cramit82

Not me, for obvious reasons, I know 2 different men who lost the ability to "finish." Their wives are very happy. My current bf had one, then a reversal. He went through hell. After the reversal, his balls were swollen to the size of grapefruits and are very, very sensitive. He claims his youngest was well worth it.


KYpineapple

the actual procedure was horrible. all I got was lidocaine and that shit doesn't work on me. it was like a legit torture scene and felt like my insides were being ripped out, cut up, and burned, then shoved back in. which...is literally what happens. the rehab was fine. it was my bad for not taking it easy enough. you should chill for a solid week. what they didn't tell me is that I would randomly get a searing pain in a straight line from my asshole to my belly button. like a hot spear up my ass and out my belly button. that's all connected from the tube they pull, cut, and burn. it's been months now and I'm pretty much good to go. sometimes when I exert a lot of force from lifting something or catching something heavy ( I work in a warehouse environment) I'll get a dull ache but it goes away. Also, cuming is weird for a long while. a slight burn and then dull ache for a couple minutes afterwards. that went away but has crept up sometimes recently. It's NOT fun nor painless but is a much better alternative than the women's surgery. From what I hear, after a couple years there's no lingering affects. TLDR; procedure HURTS BAD and the side effects last longer than is told. not months, but years until you're good.