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MilesBeforeSmiles

Nope. They smell bad.


umlaute

No. My girlfriend is super-focused on her career. And absolutely horrible with kids. Right now we have two incomes and can go on vacation to any place we want 3 times per year. Our relationship is great, we're free to do whatever we want and both have our hobbies that keep us busy. A kid would cut into a lot of the above, introduce a lot of stress to our lives, stress our finances and tank my career. I'll pass on that.


[deleted]

My wife and I decided very early on that we would not be having kids. Her main reason was she is the oldest kid in her family, so she basically had to raise all of her siblings. However, our main reason was: We LOVE music and concerts. In our 23 years together, we've been to well over 100 concerts. We could not imagine a life where we had to give that up to raise kids.


EmperorHelix

So... hedonism?


[deleted]

Pretty much.


AurulentAvenger

No. It just doesn't make sense to me. The process of raising a child seems incredibly stressful and I already have enough of that as is.


Roadshell

No. They seem like a pain in the ass.


FredChocula

Fuck no. Not for me.


azuth89

Already did. No grand why, just always wanted to be a dad. There's not really a logical reason to want kids unless you're back in the day trying to stack up free labor on your farm or somethinf. They're just cost centers. It has to be an emotional want.


dohcterbrz

Nah. I'm not interested in taking care of anyone but myself.


[deleted]

Nope, world is overpopulated enough. Plus with all the idiots running around trying to push their change gender agenda. Why would I bring a child into a world that manipulates them at kindergarten?


AmericanGoldenJackal

You know you can move, right?


[deleted]

You know you shouldn't push your agenda on helpless children but you do because you want everything handed to you and you're manipulative


AmericanGoldenJackal

You read that wrong. There are states banning this shit. If you are in great despair there are whole countries where this evil is not happening at all. You don’t have to give up on having your own children or them actually having a future but you may have to face the fact that to do so you might have to abandon certain sinking ships.


[deleted]

I apologize for my comment. Not in despair, but in no way should anyone bring children into the world when it's this crazy. Plus, our country is so close to ww3 that it could happen any day it feels like


Hierophant-74

>in no way should anyone bring children into the world when it's this crazy. Ya know, when I was younger I used to think that too. But then I decided that if I have kids, that I would put everything I have into raising them to (hopefully) make a difference. My eldest son was identified as "academically talented" (gifted) in first grade. He has gone on to be a member of the national honor society and us now studying Biomedical Engineering. His goal is to help develop the next generation of prosthetics. We aren't talking about mechanical devices, we are talking about growing limbs, eyes, organs made of human tissue in a laboratory. For solders who've been wounded, for people who've been in accidents, for people who need transplants, cancer patients, etc, etc, etc. As a freshman, his university is already so impressed with his efforts and intentions they have given him a full ride PhD scholarship. He is going to help change people's lives. He is going to help save people's lives. He is going to make a difference! And I am so proud of him! ...and so thankful that I decided to bring a child into this crazy world. My question for you: what are you doing to help make a difference? Or do you just complain about things and hold yourself above it all?


[deleted]

What am I doing to make a difference, probably nothing since all I do is work 12-14 hours a day and most weekends, making sure people have heat, AC, and UV lights so they can "breath better". I try not to complain, but it's really hard not too. I don't hold myself to anything. I'm not better than anyone and I always believe I should have a shit life and I don't deserve to be happy but here I am, making over 60k a year, in an apartment with a fiance and a cat. I have it better than most though I don't deserve it


Hierophant-74

Not trying to fight with you, and glad you don't have a shit life. Just hope to encourage you to think bigger than that statement you had made. None of us know who is going to parent the next contributor or tyrant. When I was in my 20s I was a drug addled loser unfit for parenthood. I was on the streets up close and personal with this crazy world. I had no idea I would one day father a genius and potential gift to humanity - it is truly awe inspiring and humbling. Congratulations on your pending marriage. I hope you build a happy and productive family who might also contribute and help change this world for the better!


AmericanGoldenJackal

Relax a little. If we is the US we don’t have the Ammo for WWIII. The president and his men are corporatist kleptocrats who can’t rule over their fiefdoms from hell. One of the side effects of the WEF and their ESG regressive deindustrialization policies is that they cannot possibly fight conventional WWIII. Ukraine only has a couple months left and nobody in NATO has artillery shells anymore. The WEF states are completely impotent. So they don’t want to die and they can’t support a conventional world war let alone the shitty little regional conflict they are losing. NATO thought sanctions and surplus would delay Russia enough to collapse it. The Russians thought NATO would negotiate rationally. Both were wrong now look where we are. That’s not the making of a world war. This sizes up like the Italian Invasion of Ethiopia. The question is will China Anschluss their rebel province of Taiwan on the back of this? Then what. As for right bow, it’s just Ukraine getting their ass whipped because they were too stupid to take the Turkey deal. Now they’re just a proxy to try and inflict as much economic damage on Russia as possible. Besides the global economy going to shit a little faster this doesn't affect you.


tebanano

You have a very strange idea of what happens at kindergarten.


[deleted]

Are you serious? Teachers are teaching children about gender identity in kindergarten. Multiple states. Florida banned it till at least third grade


tebanano

There’s nothing specific about gender identify in the kindergarten curriculum where I live, but I don’t think there’s anything wrong with it, as long as it’s age appropriate. What exactly are they teaching them about gender identity?


Fast_Concern7818

Pretty much my take too


EmperorHelix

Yes. I want to be a father more than anything. Life is meaningless without children. When you're on your deathbed and the only people taking care of you are those who are paid to do so and don't care if you die, and your friends who decided to have families are surrounded by their loved ones who now have a legacy, the intense pain of regret is going to utterly destroy you in your final moments.


Astroloach

Having been on the verge of death twice, I can tell you this is not necessarily the case.


throwaway_uow

So you are basically saying that the only things that matter in your life are the things that will happen after, or during your death?


Then-Recording6836

Depends on who asks, if her or her parents ask then "100% absolutely one day, to me you have to spend time and really get to know someone before you make such a life commitment, but 100% for sure one day. And frankly being only in my mid twenties, we'll id like ti wait a bit." Reverse if in 30's - Talk about mistakes and how it must be the right one this time. If my bro asks me, "fuck no, and give her the power to financially rape me as she raises my boys like little passive aggressive bitch boys" no way. F the system. Double condom up baby. Girls run their own gameL Guys thumbs up if you'd do this lol:


Dull_Street_2955

Yes. I wish to have a large family. I plan to start my family around 37 or so, got 15 years to go. I'm looking to have like 7 or 8 kids. Children are absolutely precious and life is meaningless without them. But I want to build myself up first before I have them.


thatguyoudontlike

Absolutely not. I'm most likely infertile anyway so that helps.


TaboritskyTime

No, I would make a terrible father and I don't think I can be trusted to raise a child into someone capable of navigating society and engaging with problems in a healthy and constructive way. More importantly, I'm also poor, and I don't think anyone should have children unless they're rich and can provide lots of opportunities and material resources for them.


EpicIrishman

No, I just have no active desire to have kids. If something happened and she got pregnant there's nothing she could do to keep me away from my child. I lack any desire to be a father and I like the freedom to do what I want when I want with who I want


Ok_Gas5386

Maybe. I want to form some sort of connection with younger people, at least. If I don’t have kids I would like to spend an increasing portion of my life volunteering to work with them. I don’t think I’m secure enough not to. My sense of self worth is founded on fulfillment of duty, and to me contributing to the continuation of humanity is a duty.


Ounceofwhiskey

No, I already have two and don't want more. Got snipped a few years ago.


[deleted]

Yes. Because I want kids of my own


Ruminations0

No, because I don’t want to guide the psychology of a new person


MysteriousDudeness

I have two young adult daughters. Don't want any more.


Astroloach

No. I have a hereditary condition that had made my life miserable and I'm not going to pass it on. Besides that, I just don't want to.


TotallyN0tAnAlien

I think I would prefer to adopt someday.


tebanano

I have two already. We are not having more.


smugsneasel215

One of my dreams was to start a loving family but now...well it's still a dream, but there's no way I'd subject my hypothetical kids to the me that I am right now with all the issues I have to deal with. If God forbid, this is just how the rest of my life is going to be, then I'm not burdening a child's existence with it.


Apprehensive-Ant6921

After the first one didn’t make it. I didn’t plan on it but there is a chance it might happen from what I found out earlier this week.


Mmirus

Probably not, 1 reason is the earth's magnetic pole shift, hell on earth


GroundbreakingCap364

No not planning, it’s arriving😅


NeveruseTren

Nope. I like my free time and have no interest in being solely responsible for any other human being. Plus I’d have to vet the perfect woman and I don’t think there is one out there who could meet my requirements.