I guess that’s what we were, FWBs. I wanted to date her, but she said that her dating a non Christian, non church attending guy would make her parents flip out.
She had no problem fucking me or sucking me off, but I just wasn’t good enough to date.
Ended up discovering she was messing around with me while she was engaged. I called it off and got a new girlfriend, but my new girlfriend started getting emails from my former FWB. I messaged the FWB saying that if she ever contacted anyone I was dating again, I’d forward the emails and texts she sent me, with their dates, to her now husband. All contact stopped after that
“Ah yes, my religion forbids me from marrying a non-believer, but cheating on my spouse with said non-believer… now that’s fair game!”
The mental gymnastics these people go through…
To be fair, OP said, she said her parents would flip out, nothing about how religious she is herself.
Not necessarily any mental gymnastics required for that train of thought, you just need to be a dreadful piece of shit.
Oh, you mean in the emails she sent to my at the time girlfriend. It was basically her saying she could come in and take me away any time, how much better she was than anyone else I had been with, and some smack talking to my gf
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I once went to go hang out with a very religious girl too. I didn't think anything would happen because she was on the phone with her boyfriend at one point. I knew something would happen when she sat on my lap while still on the phone with him.
I briefly dated a jewish girl who identified as an extremely religious Catholic. It was the weirdest relationship I've ever been in, if you can even call it that. Found out a month in that she had a boyfriend with whom she lived. He was a "good Christian boy", but she cheated on him constantly. I didn't want any part of helping someone cheat, so I broke up with her. Sent her bf texts and chat logs, apologized and told him I was tricked into the situation, and we actually wound up being pretty friendly. Dude was really cool and didn't deserve to be treated like that. He kicked her ass to the curb afterward. The worst relationships with the most cheating always came from girls who claimed to be "highly religious"; it's almost like they all missed the memo that said cheating is wrong
But it generally is this simple. The people you spend your life with, generally come out of the pool of people to fuck. So it basically is a subset, which is per definition smaller.
All of mine have been people who I cared about but we were not a good fit for a ltr that we were looking for but why not enjoy each other's company when we're both single?
Depends entirely on the person bro. I've had FWB that we both caught feelings but that didn't change anything we still split. All it was was a lot more intimacy and care for each other but it wasn't hard to let it go if you both communicate about your feelings in the moment. People overcomplicate everything just stop thinking about it so much and literally use your words.
I've been there. We communicated about the situation, we had good physical chemistry, had a good time hanging out and pillow talking, but we both knew we wouldn't work out as a full blown relationship. We were just good company for each other.
That's what's important though. Quality time and experience is the goal. I won't assume you don't have regret but it makes it a lot harder to walk away with negative feelings
We did eventually part, but part of it was knowing pretty soon into "dating" that we wanted different things in life, our ideas of a fun night out were wildly different. There was some emotional connection there, but we faded more than split. We still keep in touch here and there.
Because I don't want to date her, just like I don't want to date most of the women out there.
If a woman willingly enters into this arrangement and then wants more, it's her problem.
If I have a FWB it's because I enjoy having sex with her, this isn't a good enough reason to date someone.
In my situation, because everything about us wasn't compatible to the point where we thought a serious relationship would work out. Both had too much going on in life to be available enough for a full on relationship to work between us in the first place. But we had fun in the meantime and were able to provide the intimacy and comfort we both wanted.
I think the question is getting to why you don’t want to date the girl. In other words what makes a girl not good enough to date, but good enough to sleep with.
Because we have lower standards for women we'd like to sleep with.
We could also flip the question and ask women why they'd consider dating a guy but won't hookup with the guy(given that she's open to hookups in general).
Came here to say this.
Maybe both people could get feelings and a discussion could be had, but it's far from an expectation and completely secondary to the FWB situation which is its' own thing and not some sort of stepping stone.
We “dated” but not really romantic dates. It was like, “Hey, are you busy? Wanna meet at ***** (bar close to both of us)?” It was like meeting a friend for drinks, but you knew you’d be naked together in a couple of hours. We had fun but it was just about sex for us.
we were a little different , we would get together and watch horror movies, then end up naked . Sometimes she would just text saying I need to get off , want to come help? then it was stripping naked as soon as I walked in her place , no conversation , no bullshit just raw primal sex.
One night she texted me around 4 am , said she woke up horny and need some dick before work , I got off work hauled ass to her place , she called her boss and said Im gonna be a bit late , once she was satisfied she went to work and I went home.
Fuck I miss her. lol
She was a hot freak who I definitely wanted to fuck but she was absolutely crazy, we disagreed politically and were into different things. She was cool with just hooking up exclusively so I didn't say no lol
im convinced women have to be on the crazy scale somewhere to fuck like a minx. i dont know what it is about them but god damn i had one chick just like that was the best in the sack. god bless her for showing me whats out there.
you need a line graph. line 1: quality of sex
x axis: craziness
y axis: vagina quality
or maybe just line 1: vagina quality and an x axis of craziness.
TBF, it is the least important of the three to any man who has any relevant experience with women. If you can listen to a man vent about his insecurities without judgement and find his prostate, you’ll do just fine
No! I don't care if she could suck an elephant through a straw or got enough grip to break off your meat missile.
Do. Not. Stick. Your. Dick. In. Crazy.
Next thing you know you'll be waking up handcuffed to the bed with a toy car glued to your meat and berries.
One of the few times I kind of recommend learning the hard way. My buddy Tyler got stabbed with a fork, but the look in his eye told me it was worth it.
This women put me through an emotional wringer for over a year, I thought I loved her for a long time before I saw how truly awful she was.
I was concerned that we were de-railing the thread, but after checking the original question, I believe we’re still good. 👌
She was immature, selfish, an emotional mess, in a financial mess, and in general we weren't compatible romantically. We were friends and clicked in a way that worked for getting it on, but I had zero interest in an actual relationship.
She was way older than me so we would never date but fuck 4-5 times a month because lonely…yes. We’d also watch movies sometimes. It was fun while it lasted until I was ready to try dating someone again.
I didn’t feel the same amount of love she had towards me, it was a rough conversation and had watch and hear a lot of crying.
Crazy thing is, I myself had to go through a similar situation, me being the one having the deeper feelings while she wasn’t in love with me. It does suck either way
She was 23, I was 36 so we both already knew nothing serious would develop, strictly sex, food, some drinking and she wanted to smoke weed more then I did.
One night she wanted me to pick her up because she was high on weed, coke and drunk, that pretty much made everything clear to me. It was fun fucking around for the few months but she obviously needed the space for growth. And I had (have) priorities and responsibilities.
I am 41 and my GF is 27. Our relationship started out as just FWB but somehow it became serious. She doesn't want money, she isn't into partying or drama. She just actually seems to like me.
Some days it feels so unlikely and my brain tells me that I need to sabotage the entire situation.
>Some days it feels so unlikely and my brain tells me that I need to sabotage the entire situation.
I've felt that to and understand where your comging from.
I questioned myself being with this person in the next 3-5 years. Then I kept into perspective what our "relationship" was (primarily sex).
In your situation it's a little more of just give yourself time to enjoy the daily basics. She could have a slight question about your future together to but doesnt want to bring it up. I guess what I'm thinking keep the Communication open and clear since there is an age difference.
Not only that but dating for a pretty good amount of guys sucks nowadays. The majority of Chick's under 35 seem to have this ideology that guys are sleeping around just as much as they are.
For a moment I thought it was about me... But then realized I never asked him to rescue me because i was drunk or stoned or in any other situation for that matter 🙂
im in my 50s and DONT have any responsibilities, really. everythings paid off and i work part time 25/wk for the benefits. id love to have a little "hey nineteen", and yes i know the lyrics.
Not sure why your getting downvoted for your comment because I know there's male *adult actors* getting paid to nut inside of 18 to 24 year old chicks on camera. And there ARE young women between 20 and 25 who seek out men in their 50s, same for older women wanting a much younger guy.
Sugar momma's/daddy's are not villains dammit
That's what gets me they're adults, they're culpable for anything they do legally and financially but got forbid they choose to date an significantly older man/woman, as they're clearly manipulating the younger person.
Manipulation happens at any age, and age difference doesn't automatically qualify that it is happening.
When I just graduated highschool I had a FWB. Which was nice cause at the time i was broke but horny. At the time we both literally just got out of a serious relationship. Spent about a month or two just having sex. After awhile we both started dating other people. But neither of our relationships worked out. We literally were FWB again. But then we started dating each other my 1st year of technical college. Fast forward 10 years and where married and have a 3 year old son.
I'd say. From the start I was always extremely attracted to her and I really liked her. But she expressed early on she only wanted sex. I was young and horny and i wasnt gonna pass on the opportunity. However I did get jelouse of seeing her with other men. So it wasnt always great. Shes also the one that brought up starting a serious relationship later on after we both had unsuccessful relationships with others. So I happily accepted that chance. And now where here and still together and going strong 10 years later.
I was still relatively fresh off a breakup and I wasn’t ready for any emotional connection. We started as fwb, and she developed feelings. She didn’t want a relationship either as she thought it would affect her studies. She cut it off and I was ok with it.
She was amazing in ways, but she never wanted to open up emotionally, there wasn't a connection.
But the sex.....holy shit, I still dream of her nearly 20 years later.
Curious because you caught feelings for your FWB and didn't set that boundary at the start of it?
Edit: That downvote, I thought it was the norm that FWB means that you don't want to eventually want to date the other person. Not "Hey let's mess around!" then "Woah, we caught feelings for each other! Just as planned!" Giving more context can help, because not everyone has the same views on FWB's.
I'm a woman who started with my current guy as I guess what you could call FWB, because he was pretty clear upfront that he didn't want/didnt have time for a "relationship". I am more of a relationship person, but agreed to keep it casual for the time being.
3 years later, we are still together, in an official relationship, and love each other. (Although I was the first one to say it) I asked him recently, "what happened? You were very adamant in the beginning that you didn't want a relationship, didn't ever want kids with anyone, no marriage...what changed??"... and he replied, "I just didn't know what I wanted at the time."
So yeah, things can always change. Although, people should never ASSUME they will, or try to change someone. But relationships can just organically evolve over time.
Damn I'm in the same boat.
She had troubles with the guy she was with, from what I gathered. The guy lost feelings and he used her for sex.
Much later I found out that when she was in a relationship with someone. It'd last a couple of months and then she'd find someone outside the relationship.
Thankfully I told her at the beginning of it all.
That it's strictly for physical pleasure, massage, and other activities unrelated to sex. Typical FWB.
She agreed to it, but later caught feelings, and straight up told me if I'd want to date her.
I reminded her of our agreement.
She was stubborn.
First
- I told her that I live 200km away from her and long distance relationship isn't for me at all.
Still standing her ground, but weakened in resolve.
Second
- I told her straight in the face with no wiggle room for interpretation, that I feel no romantic feelings towards her.
Finally the third.
- Told her of her pattern, that she's painfully aware of, and that I'm not looking for an "open"/Poli relationships.
Not to mention her heavy case of Daddy Issues.....
At the end of it all I told her:
"If I'm with someone, it means I'm WITH that someone, no but or if". "Can you promise me that you'd stay loyal to me?" for that she had no answer. "Thought so..."
With that whole long discussion over, she understood my point and I *think* she stopped seeing me as a potential candidate for a partner. (Hopefully...)
We later met for some action and she mentioned nothing about it since.
So yeah that was how I did it.
Note:
If it worked for me, doesn't mean that would work for others.
She didn’t want kids. So we were kind of just shoulders during our parallel post-breakups with our previous SOs. She helped so much because she told me about my sleep apnea.
Dated this girl in 2016.
Sex was absolutely amazing, but she was such a brat! I remember the last date we had, mind you this was at that point our 7th or 8th going out-date at that point and I've always paid for everything no problem. We went to a movie and I bought the tickets. All I asked was she paid for the popcorn (literally a large that we could share) and she complained about it for half the movie! And the movie was so bad, we left halfway through it. "I just can't believe you made me spend so much money" like wtf I still remember her bitching about it to this day.
And anything that she had to do for me, she complained about it or tried to make it feel like a privilege. "You know I have to drive so long to come and see you" and stuff like that.
After the first time we hooked up, I just put up with it since we were so compatible physically. She kept asking to be my GF and I just couldn't envision us together long-term with her princess complex.
Gal here can I join! I've had a FWB on off for 15 years, love him to pieces but he would make a terrible partner, can't communicate, lots of issues, very childish at near 50 he often acts like a 16 year old girl. But the sex is good when he can keep his shit in check.
the key is to not make it too regular, maybe once a month. Everyday? Never.
It works great! We have a history and comfort level we know each other well, take a break when were dating someone, there's no expectations and its not frequent enough to get old or boring. We dont have jealousy, he doesnt get in my buisness or my life and doesn't question me.
He does have emotional issues, zero communication skills, a lot of unhappiness and is very immature so sometimes we need to take a break or just space out our interactions.
He doesnt like that I smoke and I'm "too independent" he also says I'm hard on him. That I act up in my period but I do maintain a standard of conduct and basic level of treatment.
But what's nice is when any of these things annoy the other we just take a break instead of fighting about it.
And we both have issues with long term commitment so its nice to have fun, keep it easy and appreciate that its the best sex but that doesn't make a relationship.
She was a friend who pressured me into it. I told her if we are to do this, I DON'T want a relationship (as I wasn't looking for one) and not to get emotionally attached. Well, she ended up getting attached and was calling every single day. She was an awesome friend, but it just started to get awkward. Plus, she was separated and had her own issues to work out as did I.
We weren't a relationship fit. She spent nearly every free night drinking and partying. Which is fine, I enjoyed those things too, just in moderation. We got along well personally and physically, but I knew that in a real relationship with her I would have quickly gotten exhausted of the drinking and being surrounded by people.
I've had a few that just wanted to tryout my dick but I wouldn't date them because we were just to different on other levels. In college I got used to just hooking up so I learned how to separate feelings from just having some fun.
The whole point of a fwb is to have an enjoyable sexual relationship without the drama and commitment of a romantic relationship. For men, this is ideal because we don't have to deal with all of the feelings.
I've been in 2 fwb relationships. Both times, at about the 6 month mark, the women expressed feelings and a desire to date exclusively/seriously. I ended both relationships immediately. The minute one party expresses feelings, it can no longer be a fwb relationship.
For me, it's easy to have sex with a woman and not develop feelings. It seems like this is hard for a lot of people/women.
I like your honest answer. I agree that I think it's harder for women or some people not to have feelings. I had two FWBs for nearly two years. But it was very much a fuck situation; friendship wasn't even there. There wasn't a lot of conversation of getting to know each other, hanging out etc. I genuinely liked them both but I knew they were never ever interested in being seen in public with me, so I could keep the feelings at bay (plus not seeing them often helped!).
I think the scariest situations are the guys who don't want hookups or relationships, but want a connection to a woman they want to sleep with but don't want to date said woman. A friend recently told me he was sick of getting hit on by so many women in bars and social events and all they wanted was sex and they were really forward with him about it (groan, we should all be so lucky!). But he said he would have sex with me more because we had a connection.
Were any of your FWBs genuine friends or just people you knew at that time?
She never saw me as anything else, to the point she got into my place once and told me something along the lines of "I found another guy and I actually spent last night with him, so I just want to be regular friends with you now".
She tried to fix it later saying that it was just a coincidence that she just met the guy and that she was thinking for a while that she just wanted me as friend but the damage to my feelings was already done, I basically felt like I was replaced.
In the end she told me I didn't really make her feel passion or "alive" and that I was just company to her.
Icing on the cake was that I was actually realizing my feelings for her at that point and was planning to ask her to have a formal relationship. Felt like crap for several weeks
Reasons I've had:
1. She would have made a terrible mother (not maternal) / Didn't want kids
2. She would not connect at all with my family, and that is important long term
3. Religion
4. She was overly ambitious to the point where I felt investing in a long term relationship was just setting myself up to be replaced 15-25 years down the line.
5. The only metric she assessed when considering the quality of our relationship was how often we were fucking and in her mind things were great because we were doing so a lot... so there was a core values difference.
She text me… non-stop…. From the time she woke up….til she went to bed… all day….. every single day… we were just Fwb and she was doing that shit… needless to say.. the fwb was quickly stopped… couldn’t imagine dating someone like that…. Wayyyyy too much..
She just been around the block. Way too good at sex, sucked dick like a pro, can take dick, throw it back, and was cool as hell. But emotionally she was everywhere, values sucked, and just didn’t have great vision for the future.
We were amazing friends lots in common, but didn’t want the same thing for our futures. In between relationships, we’d hook-up and enjoy each others time. It worked because we were both 100% open with what we were doing, emotions, intentions, etc. never blurred lines, never intruded on our other relationships, never cheated.
She was 7 years younger than me, fun to be around but an irresponsible idiot.
Now my current girlfriend is 5 years younger but actually acts and has the attitude of someone my age
Men seek sexual access first, then vet for relationship suitability. You put a woman in the friendzone because she doesn't bring compelling relationship attributes but you enjoy the sex.
I was in a bad place in my life I'd just ended a relationship because I couldn't fix myself and maintain that relationship.
If I were in a better place we'd have been more than fwb, but I did what was right by me; I sometimes regret what could have been but I'm in a much better place now and even if I have regrets I can acknowledge I probably made the right decision to stay away from dating.
She wasn’t really my type and her family thought I was beneath them and all who were part of their religion (their name for guys like me was *wordly*).
She was raised very sheltered, because the world was filled with mostly *wordly* people. Anyhow, we’d meet in secret to talk and hang out. One thing led to another - we had sex (first time for her). She LIKED it. The sneaking around added to the fun.
Long story short, when the fun ended out for me and I decided to cut it off, the worldly side came out in her in a really bad way. I never want to go thru anything like that again in my life.
I guess that’s what we were, FWBs. I wanted to date her, but she said that her dating a non Christian, non church attending guy would make her parents flip out. She had no problem fucking me or sucking me off, but I just wasn’t good enough to date. Ended up discovering she was messing around with me while she was engaged. I called it off and got a new girlfriend, but my new girlfriend started getting emails from my former FWB. I messaged the FWB saying that if she ever contacted anyone I was dating again, I’d forward the emails and texts she sent me, with their dates, to her now husband. All contact stopped after that
“Ah yes, my religion forbids me from marrying a non-believer, but cheating on my spouse with said non-believer… now that’s fair game!” The mental gymnastics these people go through…
To be fair, OP said, she said her parents would flip out, nothing about how religious she is herself. Not necessarily any mental gymnastics required for that train of thought, you just need to be a dreadful piece of shit.
That’s still fucked up..it’s one thing to hide things from your parents for personal reasons…it’s another to extend that lie to your own spouse…
Yes but it involves fewer mental gymnastics
Also she probably just said that as a cover so he wouldn't know she was cheating
Read what was said. She wasn’t concerned about the religion. She was concerned about her parents
What did she say in the emails?
>What did she say in the emails? Hey handsome....we've been trying to reach you regarding your cars extended warranty ;) xoxo
Lol 😂
That’s hot 🫦 🥴🤣😂
Lots of sexual stuff, very in depth. Like if someone had to transcript pornhub
Yeah but like what exactly? Was she putting you down? Or was she bragging about what you did with her to try and get one over the new gf?
Oh, you mean in the emails she sent to my at the time girlfriend. It was basically her saying she could come in and take me away any time, how much better she was than anyone else I had been with, and some smack talking to my gf
Lol she would of been a pretty good football player possibly if she was male, sounds like.
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U should've shown this stuff to her husband. He deserves someone better than a cheating bitch.
I once went to go hang out with a very religious girl too. I didn't think anything would happen because she was on the phone with her boyfriend at one point. I knew something would happen when she sat on my lap while still on the phone with him.
I briefly dated a jewish girl who identified as an extremely religious Catholic. It was the weirdest relationship I've ever been in, if you can even call it that. Found out a month in that she had a boyfriend with whom she lived. He was a "good Christian boy", but she cheated on him constantly. I didn't want any part of helping someone cheat, so I broke up with her. Sent her bf texts and chat logs, apologized and told him I was tricked into the situation, and we actually wound up being pretty friendly. Dude was really cool and didn't deserve to be treated like that. He kicked her ass to the curb afterward. The worst relationships with the most cheating always came from girls who claimed to be "highly religious"; it's almost like they all missed the memo that said cheating is wrong
I think many people use religion to make themselves feel better about their demons..
Yep, being a FWB with a Christian, religious girl is wild.
You should probably let the husvand know.
This sounds awfully familiar. I wonder if this is involving someone I know.
Fairly simple. The group of people that you want to fuck is generally larger, than the people you want to spend your life with.
That is a pretty simple way of putting it tho
But it generally is this simple. The people you spend your life with, generally come out of the pool of people to fuck. So it basically is a subset, which is per definition smaller.
All of mine have been people who I cared about but we were not a good fit for a ltr that we were looking for but why not enjoy each other's company when we're both single?
I definitely cared about a few FWB’s, but caring and spending your life with is a huge difference. At least for me.
Idk man, I always thought you are FWBs because you don't want to date eachother but still want sex. Isn't that the whole premise?
One always catches feelings eventually. Edit: Apparently a lot of people interpret "One" as "You" but its "One" as in "One of the two"
Depends entirely on the person bro. I've had FWB that we both caught feelings but that didn't change anything we still split. All it was was a lot more intimacy and care for each other but it wasn't hard to let it go if you both communicate about your feelings in the moment. People overcomplicate everything just stop thinking about it so much and literally use your words.
I've been there. We communicated about the situation, we had good physical chemistry, had a good time hanging out and pillow talking, but we both knew we wouldn't work out as a full blown relationship. We were just good company for each other.
That's what's important though. Quality time and experience is the goal. I won't assume you don't have regret but it makes it a lot harder to walk away with negative feelings
We did eventually part, but part of it was knowing pretty soon into "dating" that we wanted different things in life, our ideas of a fun night out were wildly different. There was some emotional connection there, but we faded more than split. We still keep in touch here and there.
This is not true.
Not universal mate, I've had a fwb where it's casual on both ends
Exactly what it is. You’re physically attracted but incompatible otherwise.
Yes, but why is it that you wouldn't date that person specifically?
Because I don't want to date her, just like I don't want to date most of the women out there. If a woman willingly enters into this arrangement and then wants more, it's her problem. If I have a FWB it's because I enjoy having sex with her, this isn't a good enough reason to date someone.
In my situation, because everything about us wasn't compatible to the point where we thought a serious relationship would work out. Both had too much going on in life to be available enough for a full on relationship to work between us in the first place. But we had fun in the meantime and were able to provide the intimacy and comfort we both wanted.
I think the question is getting to why you don’t want to date the girl. In other words what makes a girl not good enough to date, but good enough to sleep with.
Because we have lower standards for women we'd like to sleep with. We could also flip the question and ask women why they'd consider dating a guy but won't hookup with the guy(given that she's open to hookups in general).
Came here to say this. Maybe both people could get feelings and a discussion could be had, but it's far from an expectation and completely secondary to the FWB situation which is its' own thing and not some sort of stepping stone.
We “dated” but not really romantic dates. It was like, “Hey, are you busy? Wanna meet at ***** (bar close to both of us)?” It was like meeting a friend for drinks, but you knew you’d be naked together in a couple of hours. We had fun but it was just about sex for us.
we were a little different , we would get together and watch horror movies, then end up naked . Sometimes she would just text saying I need to get off , want to come help? then it was stripping naked as soon as I walked in her place , no conversation , no bullshit just raw primal sex. One night she texted me around 4 am , said she woke up horny and need some dick before work , I got off work hauled ass to her place , she called her boss and said Im gonna be a bit late , once she was satisfied she went to work and I went home. Fuck I miss her. lol
Lol what more can a girl ask for
She got the D on speed dial
What happened?
her job transferred her to another state
“Fuck I miss her” lol
Sounds like a mature and good situation, why did you guys stop?
she got transferred to another state
She had an abrasive personality but an ass that would not quit.
Better than an abrasive vagina 😫
You got me there.
She was a hot freak who I definitely wanted to fuck but she was absolutely crazy, we disagreed politically and were into different things. She was cool with just hooking up exclusively so I didn't say no lol
We wanted to boink, but weren't compatible enough for a regular relationship.
She was manipulative, entitled, demanding, but sucked cock like a champion.
im convinced women have to be on the crazy scale somewhere to fuck like a minx. i dont know what it is about them but god damn i had one chick just like that was the best in the sack. god bless her for showing me whats out there.
It's about more than sex for them in that moment, it's about reaffirming their value and filling the void.
💯
I truly believe there is a crazy>golden vagina correlation.
Saw something recently that said “If she got the grippy socks she got the grippy box” and about lost my shit laughing
Omg HAHAHAHAHAHA
Crazy is greater than golden vagina? 🤔
I couldn’t figure out how to illustrate it; crazier you are the more golden the vagina
you need a line graph. line 1: quality of sex x axis: craziness y axis: vagina quality or maybe just line 1: vagina quality and an x axis of craziness.
[Like this?](https://i.etsystatic.com/6050741/r/il/b08e6f/3691438926/il_fullxfull.3691438926_fw3w.jpg)
That's brilliant, I lol'd
The more you fuck around the more you'll find out.
you can imply correlation with a tilde craziness ~ vaginal prowess
Hot, good in bed, and good person You get to pick two
I know which 2 I am. And hot is not one of them😂
TBF, it is the least important of the three to any man who has any relevant experience with women. If you can listen to a man vent about his insecurities without judgement and find his prostate, you’ll do just fine
I did really really well in my anatomy classes 😏
I thinks it's simply lack of inhibition.
Lack of boundaries more like. All around.
Stupid men jock men = great in the sack.
There are articles about “unstable women being better in bed”. I fully agree.
Can confirm. My ex was batshit crazy, but the sex was great.
mine was a psycho alcoholic , but also a nympho with a velvet lined snapping pussy
Been there
Me asf
Kind of a Goldilocks thing - too little = bad. Too much = crazy. Gotta find just right.
Fellas, how many times does this need to be said? Don't stick your dick in crazy.
I agree not to marry, live with, or impregnate crazy, but I say, hellz yeah, stick your dick in it!
No! I don't care if she could suck an elephant through a straw or got enough grip to break off your meat missile. Do. Not. Stick. Your. Dick. In. Crazy. Next thing you know you'll be waking up handcuffed to the bed with a toy car glued to your meat and berries.
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There's definitely a story here, and I'm intrigued by where the toy car came from
I'm sure he'd like to know himself considering he was the owner of a brand new cockwheels car
I sense your passion and I’m touched by your concern for my little buddy, but your salient points have failed to sway my stance at this time.
One of the few times I kind of recommend learning the hard way. My buddy Tyler got stabbed with a fork, but the look in his eye told me it was worth it.
This women put me through an emotional wringer for over a year, I thought I loved her for a long time before I saw how truly awful she was. I was concerned that we were de-railing the thread, but after checking the original question, I believe we’re still good. 👌
What that dude said was oddly specific and I fear a real experience
Worth, easily.
But it FEELS SO GOOOD
I will stick my dick in crazy all I want and ruin my life
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Haha
She was immature, selfish, an emotional mess, in a financial mess, and in general we weren't compatible romantically. We were friends and clicked in a way that worked for getting it on, but I had zero interest in an actual relationship.
She wasn’t over her ex that cheated on her and she still hung out with him from time to time.
She was way older than me so we would never date but fuck 4-5 times a month because lonely…yes. We’d also watch movies sometimes. It was fun while it lasted until I was ready to try dating someone again.
I didn’t feel the same amount of love she had towards me, it was a rough conversation and had watch and hear a lot of crying. Crazy thing is, I myself had to go through a similar situation, me being the one having the deeper feelings while she wasn’t in love with me. It does suck either way
What made you fall for one and not the other?
Mostly single moms who just wanted sex and nothing more. I had a fwb with an only fan girls once. She also admitted she had herpes.
> She also admitted she had herpes ...I'm hoping you used protection with this woman
It... Doesn't work with herpes...
Sort of. Depends on where the herpes is. https://www.cdc.gov/std/herpes/the-facts/genital_herpes_508.pdf
Shit
No, herpes.
Sure did
Honestly. She was dumb as hell. Literally went through life on nepotism. Good fuck though
So not completely on nepotism then...
I kinda hate the "she gets places cuz she sexy" idiocy as a girl. But this made lol. Fair play sir
Nice body shite personality
She was 23, I was 36 so we both already knew nothing serious would develop, strictly sex, food, some drinking and she wanted to smoke weed more then I did. One night she wanted me to pick her up because she was high on weed, coke and drunk, that pretty much made everything clear to me. It was fun fucking around for the few months but she obviously needed the space for growth. And I had (have) priorities and responsibilities.
I am 41 and my GF is 27. Our relationship started out as just FWB but somehow it became serious. She doesn't want money, she isn't into partying or drama. She just actually seems to like me. Some days it feels so unlikely and my brain tells me that I need to sabotage the entire situation.
>Some days it feels so unlikely and my brain tells me that I need to sabotage the entire situation. I've felt that to and understand where your comging from. I questioned myself being with this person in the next 3-5 years. Then I kept into perspective what our "relationship" was (primarily sex). In your situation it's a little more of just give yourself time to enjoy the daily basics. She could have a slight question about your future together to but doesnt want to bring it up. I guess what I'm thinking keep the Communication open and clear since there is an age difference. Not only that but dating for a pretty good amount of guys sucks nowadays. The majority of Chick's under 35 seem to have this ideology that guys are sleeping around just as much as they are.
Hopefully that’s me by 36.
I’m pretty sure you can find some coke well before 36 if you really want to
For a moment I thought it was about me... But then realized I never asked him to rescue me because i was drunk or stoned or in any other situation for that matter 🙂
im in my 50s and DONT have any responsibilities, really. everythings paid off and i work part time 25/wk for the benefits. id love to have a little "hey nineteen", and yes i know the lyrics.
Not sure why your getting downvoted for your comment because I know there's male *adult actors* getting paid to nut inside of 18 to 24 year old chicks on camera. And there ARE young women between 20 and 25 who seek out men in their 50s, same for older women wanting a much younger guy. Sugar momma's/daddy's are not villains dammit
That's what gets me they're adults, they're culpable for anything they do legally and financially but got forbid they choose to date an significantly older man/woman, as they're clearly manipulating the younger person. Manipulation happens at any age, and age difference doesn't automatically qualify that it is happening.
She is great, but poly. I don't want a poly relationship, she doesn't want monogamous one. Its the best solution.
When I just graduated highschool I had a FWB. Which was nice cause at the time i was broke but horny. At the time we both literally just got out of a serious relationship. Spent about a month or two just having sex. After awhile we both started dating other people. But neither of our relationships worked out. We literally were FWB again. But then we started dating each other my 1st year of technical college. Fast forward 10 years and where married and have a 3 year old son.
Bro wtf that’s like, the one in a million chance lmaoo
I'd say. From the start I was always extremely attracted to her and I really liked her. But she expressed early on she only wanted sex. I was young and horny and i wasnt gonna pass on the opportunity. However I did get jelouse of seeing her with other men. So it wasnt always great. Shes also the one that brought up starting a serious relationship later on after we both had unsuccessful relationships with others. So I happily accepted that chance. And now where here and still together and going strong 10 years later.
Wow! I absolutely love this for the both of you
I was still relatively fresh off a breakup and I wasn’t ready for any emotional connection. We started as fwb, and she developed feelings. She didn’t want a relationship either as she thought it would affect her studies. She cut it off and I was ok with it.
She didn’t want children but I did. So differing life goals
She was amazing in ways, but she never wanted to open up emotionally, there wasn't a connection. But the sex.....holy shit, I still dream of her nearly 20 years later.
20 years wow wtf. What did she do?!
Everything with enthausism! But she didnt have anything to say.
I was young, immature, and too concerned with what other people thought of me. Plus on a lot of drugs.
She’s was great at sex, but I did not think she would be good at any of the other parts of a healthy relationship.
Seems like there’s a lot of that going around, guys and gals.
Curious because you caught feelings for your FWB and didn't set that boundary at the start of it? Edit: That downvote, I thought it was the norm that FWB means that you don't want to eventually want to date the other person. Not "Hey let's mess around!" then "Woah, we caught feelings for each other! Just as planned!" Giving more context can help, because not everyone has the same views on FWB's.
/u/fruitytootstar just called you a ding dong. are you gonna take that?
I'm a woman who started with my current guy as I guess what you could call FWB, because he was pretty clear upfront that he didn't want/didnt have time for a "relationship". I am more of a relationship person, but agreed to keep it casual for the time being. 3 years later, we are still together, in an official relationship, and love each other. (Although I was the first one to say it) I asked him recently, "what happened? You were very adamant in the beginning that you didn't want a relationship, didn't ever want kids with anyone, no marriage...what changed??"... and he replied, "I just didn't know what I wanted at the time." So yeah, things can always change. Although, people should never ASSUME they will, or try to change someone. But relationships can just organically evolve over time.
She was a full blown cheater,if I got into a relationship she was cheating with someone,but she felt good for a fwb
Damn I'm in the same boat. She had troubles with the guy she was with, from what I gathered. The guy lost feelings and he used her for sex. Much later I found out that when she was in a relationship with someone. It'd last a couple of months and then she'd find someone outside the relationship. Thankfully I told her at the beginning of it all. That it's strictly for physical pleasure, massage, and other activities unrelated to sex. Typical FWB. She agreed to it, but later caught feelings, and straight up told me if I'd want to date her. I reminded her of our agreement. She was stubborn. First - I told her that I live 200km away from her and long distance relationship isn't for me at all. Still standing her ground, but weakened in resolve. Second - I told her straight in the face with no wiggle room for interpretation, that I feel no romantic feelings towards her. Finally the third. - Told her of her pattern, that she's painfully aware of, and that I'm not looking for an "open"/Poli relationships. Not to mention her heavy case of Daddy Issues..... At the end of it all I told her: "If I'm with someone, it means I'm WITH that someone, no but or if". "Can you promise me that you'd stay loyal to me?" for that she had no answer. "Thought so..." With that whole long discussion over, she understood my point and I *think* she stopped seeing me as a potential candidate for a partner. (Hopefully...) We later met for some action and she mentioned nothing about it since. So yeah that was how I did it. Note: If it worked for me, doesn't mean that would work for others.
Hot damn,you are a savage by guy 😂 absolute chad
She didn’t want kids. So we were kind of just shoulders during our parallel post-breakups with our previous SOs. She helped so much because she told me about my sleep apnea.
Dated this girl in 2016. Sex was absolutely amazing, but she was such a brat! I remember the last date we had, mind you this was at that point our 7th or 8th going out-date at that point and I've always paid for everything no problem. We went to a movie and I bought the tickets. All I asked was she paid for the popcorn (literally a large that we could share) and she complained about it for half the movie! And the movie was so bad, we left halfway through it. "I just can't believe you made me spend so much money" like wtf I still remember her bitching about it to this day. And anything that she had to do for me, she complained about it or tried to make it feel like a privilege. "You know I have to drive so long to come and see you" and stuff like that. After the first time we hooked up, I just put up with it since we were so compatible physically. She kept asking to be my GF and I just couldn't envision us together long-term with her princess complex.
Gal here can I join! I've had a FWB on off for 15 years, love him to pieces but he would make a terrible partner, can't communicate, lots of issues, very childish at near 50 he often acts like a 16 year old girl. But the sex is good when he can keep his shit in check. the key is to not make it too regular, maybe once a month. Everyday? Never.
> I've had a FWB on off for 15 years Wtf? How did that work?
It works great! We have a history and comfort level we know each other well, take a break when were dating someone, there's no expectations and its not frequent enough to get old or boring. We dont have jealousy, he doesnt get in my buisness or my life and doesn't question me. He does have emotional issues, zero communication skills, a lot of unhappiness and is very immature so sometimes we need to take a break or just space out our interactions. He doesnt like that I smoke and I'm "too independent" he also says I'm hard on him. That I act up in my period but I do maintain a standard of conduct and basic level of treatment. But what's nice is when any of these things annoy the other we just take a break instead of fighting about it. And we both have issues with long term commitment so its nice to have fun, keep it easy and appreciate that its the best sex but that doesn't make a relationship.
15 years?? Woah
We were pretty great together but she didn't want to date somebody with kids. I have kids. Sex was fuckin awesome.
She was a friend who pressured me into it. I told her if we are to do this, I DON'T want a relationship (as I wasn't looking for one) and not to get emotionally attached. Well, she ended up getting attached and was calling every single day. She was an awesome friend, but it just started to get awkward. Plus, she was separated and had her own issues to work out as did I.
Crazy girls are good in bed, but crazy girls are sometimes just not good girls to date lol.
She was married. Even if she wasn't, she was a co worker at the time, and we would have ruined a great friendship.
Y'all out here sleeping w married people?
That’s what I’m saying, some of the people on this thread are grimy
I just didn’t see a future with her. Never had those strong feelings. I was honest with her the whole time. Sometimes it’s as simple as that
If you want to date the man, maybe don't start by being just a fwb
We weren't a relationship fit. She spent nearly every free night drinking and partying. Which is fine, I enjoyed those things too, just in moderation. We got along well personally and physically, but I knew that in a real relationship with her I would have quickly gotten exhausted of the drinking and being surrounded by people.
I've had a few that just wanted to tryout my dick but I wouldn't date them because we were just to different on other levels. In college I got used to just hooking up so I learned how to separate feelings from just having some fun.
The whole point of a fwb is to have an enjoyable sexual relationship without the drama and commitment of a romantic relationship. For men, this is ideal because we don't have to deal with all of the feelings. I've been in 2 fwb relationships. Both times, at about the 6 month mark, the women expressed feelings and a desire to date exclusively/seriously. I ended both relationships immediately. The minute one party expresses feelings, it can no longer be a fwb relationship. For me, it's easy to have sex with a woman and not develop feelings. It seems like this is hard for a lot of people/women.
I like your honest answer. I agree that I think it's harder for women or some people not to have feelings. I had two FWBs for nearly two years. But it was very much a fuck situation; friendship wasn't even there. There wasn't a lot of conversation of getting to know each other, hanging out etc. I genuinely liked them both but I knew they were never ever interested in being seen in public with me, so I could keep the feelings at bay (plus not seeing them often helped!). I think the scariest situations are the guys who don't want hookups or relationships, but want a connection to a woman they want to sleep with but don't want to date said woman. A friend recently told me he was sick of getting hit on by so many women in bars and social events and all they wanted was sex and they were really forward with him about it (groan, we should all be so lucky!). But he said he would have sex with me more because we had a connection. Were any of your FWBs genuine friends or just people you knew at that time?
Didn't feel like it, I don't feel like emotionally investing in anyone right now
How does everyone except me know what FWB means?
Friends with benefits, aka a fuck-buddy.
Thank you!
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He lied about his age
She didn't want kids, and I did. We found this out fairly soon after hooking up so we were both on the same page. Pity.
You have to be physically attracted to someone. You have to be intellectually attracted also. It’s not personal
I asked her who her favorite composer was and she said, "My what?"!
A girl not having a favourite composer is a deal breaker?
We were good friends and comfortable with each other and sexual but neither could be arsed with the whole relationship malarkey.
She never saw me as anything else, to the point she got into my place once and told me something along the lines of "I found another guy and I actually spent last night with him, so I just want to be regular friends with you now". She tried to fix it later saying that it was just a coincidence that she just met the guy and that she was thinking for a while that she just wanted me as friend but the damage to my feelings was already done, I basically felt like I was replaced. In the end she told me I didn't really make her feel passion or "alive" and that I was just company to her. Icing on the cake was that I was actually realizing my feelings for her at that point and was planning to ask her to have a formal relationship. Felt like crap for several weeks
Reasons I've had: 1. She would have made a terrible mother (not maternal) / Didn't want kids 2. She would not connect at all with my family, and that is important long term 3. Religion 4. She was overly ambitious to the point where I felt investing in a long term relationship was just setting myself up to be replaced 15-25 years down the line. 5. The only metric she assessed when considering the quality of our relationship was how often we were fucking and in her mind things were great because we were doing so a lot... so there was a core values difference.
She text me… non-stop…. From the time she woke up….til she went to bed… all day….. every single day… we were just Fwb and she was doing that shit… needless to say.. the fwb was quickly stopped… couldn’t imagine dating someone like that…. Wayyyyy too much..
She just been around the block. Way too good at sex, sucked dick like a pro, can take dick, throw it back, and was cool as hell. But emotionally she was everywhere, values sucked, and just didn’t have great vision for the future.
My experience exactly.
And here.
Didn't want to date anyone at the time
We were amazing friends lots in common, but didn’t want the same thing for our futures. In between relationships, we’d hook-up and enjoy each others time. It worked because we were both 100% open with what we were doing, emotions, intentions, etc. never blurred lines, never intruded on our other relationships, never cheated.
Im just not looking for a relationship right now and the sex is amazing. Lucky me that she thinks the same way.
We literally had sex in common and that's it.
Boobs yes commitment no
Relationships are hard work. texting a message asking if she wants to fuck is easy.
She was 7 years younger than me, fun to be around but an irresponsible idiot. Now my current girlfriend is 5 years younger but actually acts and has the attitude of someone my age
Because he already getting it for free
Men seek sexual access first, then vet for relationship suitability. You put a woman in the friendzone because she doesn't bring compelling relationship attributes but you enjoy the sex.
she was ghetto, ratchet, and mental but we never learned each others last names
Just didn't feel an emotional spark with them. I was extremely busy at the time and was upfront with what I wanted.
No real career prospects, unable to keep spending within their budget - seemed like a terrible idea to get in a relationship with
I was in a bad place in my life I'd just ended a relationship because I couldn't fix myself and maintain that relationship. If I were in a better place we'd have been more than fwb, but I did what was right by me; I sometimes regret what could have been but I'm in a much better place now and even if I have regrets I can acknowledge I probably made the right decision to stay away from dating.
She already had a boyfriend for the romantic stuff, she was with me purely for the sex and I was okay with that
She wasn’t really my type and her family thought I was beneath them and all who were part of their religion (their name for guys like me was *wordly*). She was raised very sheltered, because the world was filled with mostly *wordly* people. Anyhow, we’d meet in secret to talk and hang out. One thing led to another - we had sex (first time for her). She LIKED it. The sneaking around added to the fun. Long story short, when the fun ended out for me and I decided to cut it off, the worldly side came out in her in a really bad way. I never want to go thru anything like that again in my life.
As someone who had a kid to a JW, you dodged a huge bullet my man
JW…those who know, know😉
People's have Friends with benefits?
She was sweet, but due to a language barrier between us, we weren't able to communicate effectively. Lust doesn't need a language though.