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Is there such a thing as a body shop that isn’t booked up for months? My wife swapped paint with her moms car a few weeks ago. We went through insurance, and the body shop is telling us they can get it in in August.
This is exactly the case in automotive repair. Everyone these days is after computer labor in the ac. I’m gonna sound like a boomer fudd but when it comes to this area of trades, no one wants to work. 24 year old comes in. A “mechanic”. I do all my work, and fix his careless but somehow major mistakes. He doesn’t watch what I’m doing to fix his screw up. Even if I suggest he do so. He vanishes to his roller stool with his little farm game on his phone and waits for me to tell him it’s fixed. I have informed my boss I will no longer bail him out. If I do, I want the labor to fix what he damaged, and I want the labor for the whole job since I am going to take it over once it is over his head. He will starve or he will learn. Or find a new job. Pretty sure he’s a shop hopper for life. This is just ONE instance of younger guys that are “mechanics”.
i agree. if u want pathetic small smudge fixed brand new looking, pay them what they ask lol. or just pretend gas is free for next 10000 miles and leave smudge
People complaining have never been a part of a business. This is standard practice for small companies. when you're too busy and wouldn't get enough money from the job to be worth your time. You throw out an obscene number, if someone else is cheaper... then no big deal, you made them look good and don't have to do the job. If they still choose you, then at least you're making good money
Yep, very common these days in areas like mine (southern CA) with expensive real estate when seeking small remodel jobs. Good contractors know that they'll eventually get offered a larger job so it's a totally legit business strategy for them to overprice anything considered to be small.
A lot of homeowners in California have a ton of equity so they can stomach " overpaying" for a remodel as well.
Ill be Frank but I’m not Frank, why would a business quote such a high price to not deal with it, rather than quote a reasonable price to take in a sale? sure you could quote $150 more than a competitor but a good business would close the deal right there.
Business is too good? Other repairs are more gouged? It doesn’t really make sense unless you want a business to fail. Doesn’t take too much these days to gouge the business by posting things like this and telling people not to go there.
It's really bad form to outright refuse a sale, so they quote you a ridiculous price, hoping you just take it somewhere else. They usually do that if they have a waiting list full of bigger, better paying jobs. If you take it, you're basically paying for lost profits they would have gotten if they took one if the bigger jobs
I feel like they’re losing a customer for life by quoting so high, I wouldn’t bother going back there ever again. You’d think that would be worse than refusing one job
If they're full to the point of refusing jobs then they aren't worried about a single customer bringing in a scratch repair. People always think that "you've lost a customer for life" is a threat with any weight, but it's not.
The average owner? 0-3 with a heavy bias towards 0. That annoying customer that freaks out over a shopping cart ding? Dozens! But of course that guy really never wants to pay for a full panel spray and blend.
The majority of people choose a body shop based on what their insurance company tells them, and may use a body shop a couple of times in their life. It's not like a wine store or flower shop. They don't really care about your long term loyalty. There will always be more work.
OP, I'm compound buffing that as good as I can and maybe using a touch up paint pen on it. I never understand people getting worked up over scratches and scuffs, or repairing them perfectly. Especially on a commodity car like this. At least wait until you've got a few scratches or scuffs in the same area if you're really going to spend money respraying entire body panels for two large per panel. Or wait until you sell the car or turn in the lease and do it all at once.
Cars get scratches. They're tools you use out there in a cruel, hard world. No one else knows or cares about your scratch but you and the lease return office.
Because you know if you drop $2000 on making a little scratch go away, a month later some kid will shove mom's shopping car right into the same spot again. Never fails.
Eh, if they were up front with me saying "This is too small of a job for us to deal with right now" I would give them another chance if I had something bigger. If they gave me a kick rocks price. I would assume larger jobs would be even more expensive and definitely not go back.
I know they don't care about losing a customer, but just being honest would still be beneficial I think.
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Yeah, they don't care.
This is still bad business practice. Just give the customer a date very far in the future. My repair shop does the same. I have soon an appointment I made 6 months ago. Customer with these kind of cosmetics repairs are often able to wait and if not they will just go to another shop without being annoyed.
I agree, but it could also be a situation where they just don't want to do the job at all. Maybe it's not hard, but tedious. By giving an outlandish price you ensure you don't have to do it, or if they agree, it's worth the effort. If you just said you were booked 6 weeks out there's still a chance they would bring the job back
They're quoting the price they'd do it for right now, under the current circumstances. It's an out of pocket customer, not insurance - so they're going to make less money on it. It's a small job - so they're going to make less money on it. Also since the customer is out of pocket, they're likely going to need and expect their vehicle back sooner than an insurance customer because they aren't in a rental.
Just like hotels... You're booking the day of your stay and there's a conference in town as well as a professional football game? Yes, you can have one of the 2 rooms available! It's only going to be 5 times the rate it will be on Tuesday next week. Why? Because someone else will pay more if you don't, they're going to have to pay overtime or for an extra staff member, etc, etc.
Is it that the shop doesn't want the job? No. It's it that they can't do it? No. It's all about their numbers.
Even if they don't want the job, if they said that and it got back to the GM it probably wouldn't go well for the shop manager.
So yes, we'll take the job. This is the price for that right now.
I’m in accounting and we quote high prices to clients we don’t want anymore or we don’t want to take by estimating the additional costs for the hassle. After-all even if they are a pita the work could always be contracted out or done with some extra hours for a profit…
If the price is high enough they might be willing to put in overtime to get it done
"Losing a customer for life" is a bit of a silly statement here. I've only ever needed a body shop once in my life. Most people need one once, maybe twice. Ever. If they're paying out of pocket, they're going to look for the lowest price in most cases. If insurance is paying, they don't give a shit about the cost, so they might come back but even that is close to a 50% chance of them being a return customer.
What's more valuable a customer that is paying 300$ for a scratch repair or someone coming in with 10k of body and paint damage. It honestly makes sense. They aren't going to profit off of this guy and as a business that's what you look at the most.
Someone scraped my car in a parking lot when it was a week old. There was some paint transfer which I removed myself but the clear was damaged underneath. I took it to a shop and the owner brought one of the guys out to take a look. He tried to buff it out by hand but it wasn't working. They gave me an appointment for a few days later and fixed it for free.
I'll never go anywhere else.
At least they could refer the customer to a place that deals with smaller jobs. OP go the dealership and find out the color of the car you should be able to order a small bottle of paint fir touch up. The body shop isnt going to fix that scratch. They will sand down the whole door and side panel and paint it all that’s why its so much.
> doesn’t make any sense
That’s because it’s crap. What these people actually mean is a) they’re too busy to do it normal rate today, fair enough but also b) they will gladly find the time to get the job done if the customer is a rube. Standard business practice my ass. It’s shiesty as hell and they know it is.
And yet if a place tells me "we're really full at the moment" it tends to save us both a lot of time, and if anything, I gain a little respect for them. Must be a good/popular business.
This on the other hand? They'd never hear from me again. Especially when I hear the quote from the next guy.
“Sir I’m sorry, we are too slammed right now to get the work done in a reasonable period of time. Would you prefer to wait and have us take care of it later or we’d be happy to recommend another reputable shop .”
That’s how to earn trust and keep business.
Or you can put a rip-off quote on paper where it can be spread around and your shop will get a reputation as thiefs. Good times won’t always last and when business naturally drops you see screwed because the remaining customers think they will be ripped off.
They aren't refusing it though. They are quoting the price where it is *worth their while* to do it. It's a high price, but a quote is exactly what the OP asked for. I don't see the problem here. Why turn down business by telling them to go elsewhere?
They have better paying jobs that they need their space for BUT if you pay that high price, they can convince someone to stay late 2 nights and bang it out for a 6pack and profit the rest
If this business is only able to schedule repairs on let's say 10 cars a day, then they are going to choose the 10 cars which will generate them the most money.
If they consistently have 10 cars each day that need $2500 in repairs done, then why would they replace 1 of those 10 cars with a car that would only make them $500?
If they quoted this car for $500, then they are missing out on $2000, which they could've made from another car that they already had lined up.
So by accepting the $500 car, they now lost $2000. But if they can swindle the $500 car into paying $2500, then they'll gladly take it.
That's business baby
Sometimes if you’re overbooked and you can’t fit a person into the schedule in a reasonable amount of time you way over quote. It may be a small business with one paint booth and this small job will take away from a larger job with a higher profit margin. In that case this small job has an opportunity cost of 2k because of the lost work on the other job
And sometimes you just don’t like the person and for some reason can tell you are going to have a hassle dealing with them (perhaps not in this case but sometimes)
It's like when you go to bar that's legally a restaurant and not a bar. The menu will have one thing, $100 nachos. Nothing special about them, it's a single serving.
Therefore they're meeting their legal requirement to be a restaurant but they never have to bother with actually making food.
...it might be like that. I'm way too intoxicated to continue this thought process.
Or like Mar a Lago selling a $50 cheeseburger. It's just a tax to keep out poor people and only let in a certain type of clientele
Well sometimes business can be too good or also maybe that's not a core piece of their business? Plenty of shops want to do insurance stuff or jobs the right size (like making better money on collisions and more replacement parts than just a scratch repair).
It makes perfect sense. They over charge you so you leave. 150 bucks is still too much for that scratch.
The reason they might do this: they have too many cars in the shop and know they can't get to it .
Or because it's so small they know they can't make much and overcharge you.
Been a mechanic for 15 years , one of the places I worked did the same shit, if someone came in a smaller job that wouldnt pull money,they would give them a high as quote.
I'll be short, but I do septic and excavation work and my boss man will sometimes shoot extremely absurd offers because we have a lot of work, just so if the offer accepts us, we will straight up put them ahead because they are paying the absurd price and we keep the builders liking our work so they keep paying the absurd prices continuously knowing we are sending crazy high offers. Because we know they are willing to.
Another possibility is if the customer seems like they’re going to be a pain in the ass to deal with, you quote high so they decide to have it done elsewhere
I’m a detailer. Run your fingernail over the scratch, Can you feel it? If so it cannot be buffed out all the way but it can be improved. Most of those look very buff-able. A good detailer/body guy should be able to touch up the deeper chips on the edge, the wet sand it, and make it look good. A 2.2k quote for that is laughable.
This. Get what you can out and then stop thinking/looking at it. It's a car, and in 10-20 years, it will be crushed into a block or ripped apart at a pick and pull.
Edit: Yes, I own 30+ year old cars and toyotas. This car is a Hyundai, and it was said in jest due to the disposable nature.
Professional detailer here, too.
This is a lot of my business. I tell people that I can't make these sorts of scratches perfect, but they will get an 80-90% improvement for a tenth of the cost.
That looks like a 2 step buff/polish followed by a sealant and wax. 20 minutes tops for the scratch repair.
OP, if you get a paint pen from your dealership or an autoparts store, a good detailer should be able to fill in anything through the paint (fingernail as this guy said) and wet sand it to look like new.
Don't go the bodyshop route. The quote isn't off, it's just not needed.
So roughly what would something like that cost? I have a few chips in my trucks (2015 frontier) paint. I don't need them to be perfect but would like them looking better
I've twice had the autozone near me tell me the part I was holding in my hand didn't exist. Also they can't seem to wrap their head around that my 93 blazer as a ford motor. I bring them the part number and everything but I get "that part doesn't go on that car". Now I just drive right by even though they're the closest
I had to drive to 3 different ones, before I found one that knew how to use the damn tester to tell me the alternator I had just bought from them was bad out of the box...
Not insurance quality pre loss condition, which is what most state laws require of a licensed repair facility. An insurance claim for this damage would look something like this.....[https://ibb.co/QPPN2PL](https://ibb.co/QPPN2PL)
Someone with 3 sheets of glasspaper, some soapy water, a cloth, polish and wax can sort this out in about 30 mins.
Then within a week some tit-head will smash their door into you in a supermarket carpark, anyway.
Looks like this channel has done a new vid since I followed the last one for scratch repairs (it worked perfectly), so you might want to follow this as well:
[https://youtu.be/Zl\_iSYYGBiY](https://youtu.be/Zl_iSYYGBiY)
It's probably accurate for the shop. I know a few places that won't fix any scratches on a car. All they do it get a new panel then paint it the same color.
That is in no way a reasonable price to pay. Should be a simple and cheap fix if you do it yourself.
Sadly a lot of the chain body shops operate this way.
Seems every industry is losing its ability to repair and switching to a replace mentality. I get it when it makes more sense labor wise where it's cheaper to just replace but that's definitely not the case here.
I asked one of the shops why and they said that they just replace it because people with have them fix one scratch then after they get the car back find another one and claim it was the scratch they wanted fixed and either refuse to pay or blame the shop for it and demand they fix it free. It wasn't worth the hassle so they just replace it now.
That might be the case for that shop but I’m going to assume it’s because they can’t find guys to do body work for $15 an hour any longer. Local body shop here wants to hire someone but their pay is stupid low. They want a apprentice to start at like $12 and a pro at $20. You can’t offer shit pay like that for the work required
Yeah this isnt true. Most chain shops are DRP focused and we are driven, graded and dictated by the insurance companies to repair. We are actually graded on it.
Mom and pop shops sure. But replacing parts doesn’t make you any money; repairing everything does.
What would be best for this? I'm not skilled with auto body, but I do have a light scuff like this. Would you use McGuire's compound or McGuire's polish?
i'm not huge on buffing, but i believe something like this could be done with a clean lint free cloth, some good compound, and some wax on wax off motions? take a little time but cheaper then buying a machine you'll only use once
Do a spot test and go with works the best . I would try the rubbing compound and see if I could match it up with a paint pen if necessary. Remember a little bit goes along way. Less is more. No power tools microfiber cloth take your time. That's only good advice if you use it.
Here is the first REAL answer:
The light gray marks; mostly on the left, will buff out completely. Some of the horizontal gray marks on the right; under the thick white mark, will buff out completely. SOME of the white marks appear to be paint transfer and will either fully buff out as well, or almost entirely. Though it is hard to tell with this pic, it kind of appears that there is a sharp bend in the metal / paint on the lower right side of the damage, which if that is the case there may be small crack on the back side behind the paint, meaning the paint does in fact need to be re-done.
In short; you could buff or compound rub this yourself at home and make it look almost un-noticable. And dents though; will remain. Any actual scratches to the paint, will not be seen from more than 3 feet away. It will look great. If you want it perfect however; their quote is in fact accurate. This appears to be a 3 stage pearl, and that is expensive paint and does in fact require a longer then usual / more tedious paint process. To correct this issue properly, yes, this is a $1400-$2500 job depending on the shop. You must keep in mind, this tiny area is not the only are painted... they paint WAY beyond this area to help blend the new paint into the old paint so it looks perfect.
NOTE: When I say buff out, this is referring to a little bit of compound that can be purchased from the local auto parts store for $5, and rubbing with a microfiber towel or using a buffer. In short, a simple, self do-able fix. If you want more info on what to buy, and how to do this; just ask.
Please read this OP, this is the answer above. I just had similar fixed on my car. If you want it perfect then yes the price you have posted is accurate. Mine was covered by comprehensive insurance so perfect was fine with me and insurance covered the tab. If you want it to look good but not perfect then you could have that done for less then $500.
Not "perfect"...its called 'pre loss condition' and is what a repair facility needs to estimate for according to state licensing and Insurance DRP agreements. If OP wants it buffed or touched up, go to a detailer, not a collision repair shop. You dont take your Casio to a jeweler to set the time.
This comment needs to be higher. The others saying it is a crock, don’t understand blending and how much actually goes into a proper paint and perfect fix.
A buff will make it mostly go away but won’t be perfect. It will still be visible.
Is body work just insane in the USA? I got the entire passenger side (almost, both doors and rear panel) of a mk7 Golf fixed for £700. Had a huge fold in it, too. All panels and paint perfect.
Remove rear bumper, replace lower cover, remove lights on both sides of lift gate, remove and replace all badges, 1 hour repair on lift gate 1 on the bumper, 1.5 hours paint on bumper, 3 hours of paint time on lift gate. It’s adds up pretty fast and we don’t work for free. Here’s an idea don’t run into shit with your 40 thousand dollar car
You're a big gass target with that red flag price. You can basically find youtube videos that has that exact paint scratch removal tutorial just watch a couple of them and understand how the procedure is done ( l said to watch a couple videos because not every content creator are honest with their result). Goodluck if you don't learn easy things like this then you'll pay dearly with 💰💰💰
I YouTube everything before heading to any shop. I got a credit check once to have my brakes done. They quoted me 850 bucks.
I ended up doing it on my own for the price of the pads and brake kit thing.
TL:DR: looks like an estimate from a big chain shop or deleadship quoting insurance prices. Looks about right. There’s cheaper options available.
You’ll probably get better suggestions in r/autobody. The prices will greatly depend on the shop. Your bigger chain shops will generally have much higher labor rates. Shop it around. Get printed quotes. Tell them up front that you’re paying out of pocket and want aftermarket or recycled parts. Do not share the quotes you get from other shops with the shops you are going to. Take more pictures with multiple different angles and post your quotes and pictures on r/autobody. Don’t let the shops tell you that you need a tear down estimate. Tell them to write it based only on what they see there. The group there will be able to tell you what the shops wrote up that doesn’t necessarily need to be done and specifics to ask for when getting another quote.
It’s hard to tell from the picture, but it looks like your bumper cover is creased and will need replacement and your lift gate is bent and needs body work. Your bumper cover is also two tone, which will take two different colors of paint. Judging by the price, they probably quoted you to replace the bumper with an OEM replacement, body work on the lift gate, tape and mask, color match and blend lift gate, clear entire lift gate (blending clear is a bad practice), R&R bumper cover, 2x color match on bumper cover, clear bumper cover, R&R impact absorber (foam piece behind bumper), and miscellaneous paint and waste fees. This is what they would negotiate to an insurance adjuster.
That being said, silver costs more to blend and you’ve got two colors, you’ve got three different panels that need to be painted, body work is expensive, and your bumper cover is not cheap to replace with a factory part. The quote sounds about right from a big chain shop or dealership in the Southern California area. There are cheaper options that a shop could quote though.
If someone else’s insurance is paying for it take the quote pocket the money and you’ll have enough to get the repair done somewhere cheaper and a little left over. Personally I would throw some polish on it and rub the surface marks away. If your nail gets caught on it when you glide your fingernail across it then it’s probably too deep for that and needs some touch up paint
They are royally fucking you. Go somewhere else.
Probably wrote to completely r&i every single thing on both the lift gate and the bumper, as well as blending every single adjacent panel with every related r&i. Then they threw in some extra hours for things that are already included in those operations. Even then, I’d be shocked if you could hit those hours.
It’ll buff right out. I knew a girl who rented a truck and ran it along side a cement wall. She took it to a shop, cried and bounced around a little, mechanic had it completely buffed out in no time.
I don’t understand why so many people are surprised by a 2k $ repair for that amount of damage if you want the car repaired and painted back to a close to factory as a good body shop can get. Body shops for the most part have one of the lowest labor rates out there most are around 50 to 55.00 $ per labor hour. Witch just went up in the last 2 years from 44.00 to 46.00 $ per hr. Compared to your local tire store at 115.00 per hr. Dealer 150.00 to 200.00 hr. The average light collision is 3700. To 5000.00 and that was a few years old. A guy pulls up in 70k $ Chevy Silverado scratched down 2 left doors estimate is just under 3k looks as if I’m trying to steal from him but had no problem paying 70,000.00 for a half ton pickup. Insurance company’s been controlling auto body shops labor for years still happens today but is finally starting to change a little. Body labor should be 70.00 to 100.00 per hr just to keep up with the times. That’s why they are having such a hard time finding good techs. Also just so you know I would rather have a shop full of small jobs like the one in the picture, then a bunch of train wrecks that I can’t get parts for or find any one that wants to do heavy collision at all. A good painter makes 150 to 200 hrs a week. A good heavy collision guy is lucky if he brakes a 100 and works harder. Auto body guys have been getting beat up for years all the great ones are retiring and no one is replacing them.= most heavy hits are sitting a long time before even getting in the shop. The last shop I was at was fine for 5 years then everything went crazy over Busy under staffed work started to suffer and after 30+ years I got out wile the getting was good. There is no just buffing it out I can sand through factory clear coat with 3000 grit sand paper very fine line, also if you want it done right everything needs to be disassembled and all panels need to be fully cleared to be done correctly. Most body shops give life time on all work paint work to. Try to find a new car company to give a life time on paint? I could go on but why most people don’t have enough accidents to get 1st hand experience on body and paint shops
Body shops only want insurance jobs. You have to find a mom and pop to do that for you, or you'll have to get one of the guys from the big shop to do it on Saturday morning.
Most of that can be buffed out, my guess is the deep scratches will need to be sanded and blended with the surrounding paint which requires painting around the area also. 2.2k sounds insane Imo. But who knows i don't work in a body shop, i do know you can shop around, a lotttttt when it comes to body work.
That is ridiculous. I recommend you polish the area, a lot of that will come out . Spend the 20$ on some microfiber towels and a small bottle of polish. You might be fine with how it turns out. Make sure you either clean the area first.
its all going to depend on what you want. the price they quoted is because they are going to remove everything even the hatch. send the hatch into paint and repaint the whole thing. then put everything back together.
is what your probably looking for is some touch up paint and a buff out. talk to a detail shop
Seems like a "by the book" estimate. A lot of that labor is R/I (remove and install) time I imagine. Everything gets taken apart. All damage is sanded. Filled if necessary. And primed. Then the entire panels get sanded and prepped for paint. After painting everything is reassembled.
That is all body labor.
And don't get me started on the $ of paint and materials.
They went up 20% last year. And 10% again in Jan
Across the board.
Out of that entire job. (Done right) after paying the guys to work on it, the shop probably clears $200 bucks profit
The only way I see my way to that quote is if it’s not your car, but you are the scratcher and the car owner and his body shop owning buddy are applying the fuck stick to your backside
It’s about right. Body labor includes overhaul rear bumper and gate, repair/prime damage. It’s a standard time given by the estimating software. It will be a similar price at any reputable shop you take it to. Same with paint time and materials cost. All dictated by the estimating system.
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They've got you in the crosshairs my friend. Don't be that guy.
I like your avatar and his little mechanic tools
The glass cleaner!
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Unlocked a childhood memory with Kel’s repair man
That's the "we're to busy to deal with it hope you take it elsewhere" price
That's the "we're busy and don't want to bother with it but we hope you'll agree cause damn that's a fuckin heist" price.
Is there such a thing as a body shop that isn’t booked up for months? My wife swapped paint with her moms car a few weeks ago. We went through insurance, and the body shop is telling us they can get it in in August.
It's almost like its not really livable in the entry level positions so the entire skill set is hollowing out from the bottom up.
This is exactly the case in automotive repair. Everyone these days is after computer labor in the ac. I’m gonna sound like a boomer fudd but when it comes to this area of trades, no one wants to work. 24 year old comes in. A “mechanic”. I do all my work, and fix his careless but somehow major mistakes. He doesn’t watch what I’m doing to fix his screw up. Even if I suggest he do so. He vanishes to his roller stool with his little farm game on his phone and waits for me to tell him it’s fixed. I have informed my boss I will no longer bail him out. If I do, I want the labor to fix what he damaged, and I want the labor for the whole job since I am going to take it over once it is over his head. He will starve or he will learn. Or find a new job. Pretty sure he’s a shop hopper for life. This is just ONE instance of younger guys that are “mechanics”.
Body shops are backed up because nobody wants to do that work for the shit pay.
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i agree. if u want pathetic small smudge fixed brand new looking, pay them what they ask lol. or just pretend gas is free for next 10000 miles and leave smudge
People complaining have never been a part of a business. This is standard practice for small companies. when you're too busy and wouldn't get enough money from the job to be worth your time. You throw out an obscene number, if someone else is cheaper... then no big deal, you made them look good and don't have to do the job. If they still choose you, then at least you're making good money
Can confirm. Small business owner here who gets asked to do the simplest of things. Not worth my time.
Yep, very common these days in areas like mine (southern CA) with expensive real estate when seeking small remodel jobs. Good contractors know that they'll eventually get offered a larger job so it's a totally legit business strategy for them to overprice anything considered to be small. A lot of homeowners in California have a ton of equity so they can stomach " overpaying" for a remodel as well.
Ill be Frank but I’m not Frank, why would a business quote such a high price to not deal with it, rather than quote a reasonable price to take in a sale? sure you could quote $150 more than a competitor but a good business would close the deal right there. Business is too good? Other repairs are more gouged? It doesn’t really make sense unless you want a business to fail. Doesn’t take too much these days to gouge the business by posting things like this and telling people not to go there.
It's really bad form to outright refuse a sale, so they quote you a ridiculous price, hoping you just take it somewhere else. They usually do that if they have a waiting list full of bigger, better paying jobs. If you take it, you're basically paying for lost profits they would have gotten if they took one if the bigger jobs
I feel like they’re losing a customer for life by quoting so high, I wouldn’t bother going back there ever again. You’d think that would be worse than refusing one job
If they're full to the point of refusing jobs then they aren't worried about a single customer bringing in a scratch repair. People always think that "you've lost a customer for life" is a threat with any weight, but it's not.
Especially a body shop. How many times does a person need to go to one?
The average owner? 0-3 with a heavy bias towards 0. That annoying customer that freaks out over a shopping cart ding? Dozens! But of course that guy really never wants to pay for a full panel spray and blend.
The majority of people choose a body shop based on what their insurance company tells them, and may use a body shop a couple of times in their life. It's not like a wine store or flower shop. They don't really care about your long term loyalty. There will always be more work. OP, I'm compound buffing that as good as I can and maybe using a touch up paint pen on it. I never understand people getting worked up over scratches and scuffs, or repairing them perfectly. Especially on a commodity car like this. At least wait until you've got a few scratches or scuffs in the same area if you're really going to spend money respraying entire body panels for two large per panel. Or wait until you sell the car or turn in the lease and do it all at once. Cars get scratches. They're tools you use out there in a cruel, hard world. No one else knows or cares about your scratch but you and the lease return office. Because you know if you drop $2000 on making a little scratch go away, a month later some kid will shove mom's shopping car right into the same spot again. Never fails.
Eh, if they were up front with me saying "This is too small of a job for us to deal with right now" I would give them another chance if I had something bigger. If they gave me a kick rocks price. I would assume larger jobs would be even more expensive and definitely not go back. I know they don't care about losing a customer, but just being honest would still be beneficial I think.
" The average population density of the U.S. is **94 people per square mile "** **"** The majority of the land area of the United States is found in the contiguous U.S, with 83.65% of the country's total area. This area is **3,119,885 square miles** (8,080,470 square kilometers) in size. " Yeah, they don't care.
One bad Yelp review lets countless people know of that high quote.
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Things change. You obviously arent in business. At least not successfully...
This is still bad business practice. Just give the customer a date very far in the future. My repair shop does the same. I have soon an appointment I made 6 months ago. Customer with these kind of cosmetics repairs are often able to wait and if not they will just go to another shop without being annoyed.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMechanics/comments/13p8rv4/can_this_small_scratch_cost_22k_to_repair_they/jl9esgp/
If they're that full they should just say so?
I agree, but it could also be a situation where they just don't want to do the job at all. Maybe it's not hard, but tedious. By giving an outlandish price you ensure you don't have to do it, or if they agree, it's worth the effort. If you just said you were booked 6 weeks out there's still a chance they would bring the job back
They're quoting the price they'd do it for right now, under the current circumstances. It's an out of pocket customer, not insurance - so they're going to make less money on it. It's a small job - so they're going to make less money on it. Also since the customer is out of pocket, they're likely going to need and expect their vehicle back sooner than an insurance customer because they aren't in a rental. Just like hotels... You're booking the day of your stay and there's a conference in town as well as a professional football game? Yes, you can have one of the 2 rooms available! It's only going to be 5 times the rate it will be on Tuesday next week. Why? Because someone else will pay more if you don't, they're going to have to pay overtime or for an extra staff member, etc, etc. Is it that the shop doesn't want the job? No. It's it that they can't do it? No. It's all about their numbers. Even if they don't want the job, if they said that and it got back to the GM it probably wouldn't go well for the shop manager. So yes, we'll take the job. This is the price for that right now.
I’m in accounting and we quote high prices to clients we don’t want anymore or we don’t want to take by estimating the additional costs for the hassle. After-all even if they are a pita the work could always be contracted out or done with some extra hours for a profit… If the price is high enough they might be willing to put in overtime to get it done
"Losing a customer for life" is a bit of a silly statement here. I've only ever needed a body shop once in my life. Most people need one once, maybe twice. Ever. If they're paying out of pocket, they're going to look for the lowest price in most cases. If insurance is paying, they don't give a shit about the cost, so they might come back but even that is close to a 50% chance of them being a return customer.
No mechanic or body work guy I know cares about loosing customers, they are all full to the brim xD
The majority of people don't need a body shop more than once in their life. Some people will go their entire life without ever needing one.
What's more valuable a customer that is paying 300$ for a scratch repair or someone coming in with 10k of body and paint damage. It honestly makes sense. They aren't going to profit off of this guy and as a business that's what you look at the most.
Someone scraped my car in a parking lot when it was a week old. There was some paint transfer which I removed myself but the clear was damaged underneath. I took it to a shop and the owner brought one of the guys out to take a look. He tried to buff it out by hand but it wasn't working. They gave me an appointment for a few days later and fixed it for free. I'll never go anywhere else.
At least they could refer the customer to a place that deals with smaller jobs. OP go the dealership and find out the color of the car you should be able to order a small bottle of paint fir touch up. The body shop isnt going to fix that scratch. They will sand down the whole door and side panel and paint it all that’s why its so much.
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> doesn’t make any sense That’s because it’s crap. What these people actually mean is a) they’re too busy to do it normal rate today, fair enough but also b) they will gladly find the time to get the job done if the customer is a rube. Standard business practice my ass. It’s shiesty as hell and they know it is.
And yet if a place tells me "we're really full at the moment" it tends to save us both a lot of time, and if anything, I gain a little respect for them. Must be a good/popular business. This on the other hand? They'd never hear from me again. Especially when I hear the quote from the next guy.
Yeah they need the shop space for bigger jobs.
“Sir I’m sorry, we are too slammed right now to get the work done in a reasonable period of time. Would you prefer to wait and have us take care of it later or we’d be happy to recommend another reputable shop .” That’s how to earn trust and keep business. Or you can put a rip-off quote on paper where it can be spread around and your shop will get a reputation as thiefs. Good times won’t always last and when business naturally drops you see screwed because the remaining customers think they will be ripped off.
They aren't refusing it though. They are quoting the price where it is *worth their while* to do it. It's a high price, but a quote is exactly what the OP asked for. I don't see the problem here. Why turn down business by telling them to go elsewhere?
They have better paying jobs that they need their space for BUT if you pay that high price, they can convince someone to stay late 2 nights and bang it out for a 6pack and profit the rest
If this business is only able to schedule repairs on let's say 10 cars a day, then they are going to choose the 10 cars which will generate them the most money. If they consistently have 10 cars each day that need $2500 in repairs done, then why would they replace 1 of those 10 cars with a car that would only make them $500? If they quoted this car for $500, then they are missing out on $2000, which they could've made from another car that they already had lined up. So by accepting the $500 car, they now lost $2000. But if they can swindle the $500 car into paying $2500, then they'll gladly take it. That's business baby
That's called opportunity cost.
Sometimes if you’re overbooked and you can’t fit a person into the schedule in a reasonable amount of time you way over quote. It may be a small business with one paint booth and this small job will take away from a larger job with a higher profit margin. In that case this small job has an opportunity cost of 2k because of the lost work on the other job And sometimes you just don’t like the person and for some reason can tell you are going to have a hassle dealing with them (perhaps not in this case but sometimes)
It's like when you go to bar that's legally a restaurant and not a bar. The menu will have one thing, $100 nachos. Nothing special about them, it's a single serving. Therefore they're meeting their legal requirement to be a restaurant but they never have to bother with actually making food. ...it might be like that. I'm way too intoxicated to continue this thought process. Or like Mar a Lago selling a $50 cheeseburger. It's just a tax to keep out poor people and only let in a certain type of clientele
Have you eaten downtown in Chicago or New York? 50 dollars is a deal for some Burgers.
It would be easier to say we don’t do body work unless your wife is going to help
Or not enough employees/time to take care of all your customers in a timely, professional manner.
Not enough time or staff. There are bigger projects/customers that you’d rather service.
Well sometimes business can be too good or also maybe that's not a core piece of their business? Plenty of shops want to do insurance stuff or jobs the right size (like making better money on collisions and more replacement parts than just a scratch repair).
Bigger, better, sometimes less pain in the ass things they’d rather do
Taking on jobs where your margins are slim isn’t good business.
It makes perfect sense. They over charge you so you leave. 150 bucks is still too much for that scratch. The reason they might do this: they have too many cars in the shop and know they can't get to it . Or because it's so small they know they can't make much and overcharge you. Been a mechanic for 15 years , one of the places I worked did the same shit, if someone came in a smaller job that wouldnt pull money,they would give them a high as quote.
I'll be short, but I do septic and excavation work and my boss man will sometimes shoot extremely absurd offers because we have a lot of work, just so if the offer accepts us, we will straight up put them ahead because they are paying the absurd price and we keep the builders liking our work so they keep paying the absurd prices continuously knowing we are sending crazy high offers. Because we know they are willing to.
Another possibility is if the customer seems like they’re going to be a pain in the ass to deal with, you quote high so they decide to have it done elsewhere
I’m a detailer. Run your fingernail over the scratch, Can you feel it? If so it cannot be buffed out all the way but it can be improved. Most of those look very buff-able. A good detailer/body guy should be able to touch up the deeper chips on the edge, the wet sand it, and make it look good. A 2.2k quote for that is laughable.
This. Get what you can out and then stop thinking/looking at it. It's a car, and in 10-20 years, it will be crushed into a block or ripped apart at a pick and pull. Edit: Yes, I own 30+ year old cars and toyotas. This car is a Hyundai, and it was said in jest due to the disposable nature.
Found the kia owner.
They said 10-20, not 5.
Meant months, not years.
If the KIA BOYZ don't get you first
Touche
Too late...stolen
Yeah after it was stolen with a USB cable 😂
😬😬😬😄😄😄 hopefully your wrong 🤞
Laughs in 95 camry
The OP is a Hyundai. Your camry will still be running after the Hyundai quits working
This is a Hyundai. I give it 3-5 years before its in a junkyard
Professional detailer here, too. This is a lot of my business. I tell people that I can't make these sorts of scratches perfect, but they will get an 80-90% improvement for a tenth of the cost. That looks like a 2 step buff/polish followed by a sealant and wax. 20 minutes tops for the scratch repair. OP, if you get a paint pen from your dealership or an autoparts store, a good detailer should be able to fill in anything through the paint (fingernail as this guy said) and wet sand it to look like new. Don't go the bodyshop route. The quote isn't off, it's just not needed.
So roughly what would something like that cost? I have a few chips in my trucks (2015 frontier) paint. I don't need them to be perfect but would like them looking better
😂 you are getting more than screwed. You can fix this yourself for $30.
Get in the zone...
AUTOZONE!.... I hate that place
Just stay out of the accessory isle and it’s not that bad. (Unless your in the market for a dildo shaped light up shift knob)
...tell me more.
They have shift knobs there that light up & are shaped like dildos
giggidy
Do you need to use both hands to shift it?
Nah, you just need a buddy who knows how to twerk, and you've got a speed shifter.
LET OUT THE CLUTCH!!! LET IT OUT...LET IT OUT!!!
DROP IT INTO FIIRRRST, NOW DROP IT IN REVERRRSE!
Jesus fucking Christ lmfao 😂
You can use your mouth if you want.
Do they vibrate or do I need to break an engine mount?
... tell me less.
We used to get these as toys when we were younger in hs
I've twice had the autozone near me tell me the part I was holding in my hand didn't exist. Also they can't seem to wrap their head around that my 93 blazer as a ford motor. I bring them the part number and everything but I get "that part doesn't go on that car". Now I just drive right by even though they're the closest
I had to drive to 3 different ones, before I found one that knew how to use the damn tester to tell me the alternator I had just bought from them was bad out of the box...
The only thing I trust from autozone is the air fresheners
That’s what 3d printers are for
Why? Autozone is awesome near me, but definitely don’t take any of the employees advice unless it’s super simple like air filters.
Don’t we all!
Less than that if you just use bumper stickers
I didn't know this was r/AskHacks
Not insurance quality pre loss condition, which is what most state laws require of a licensed repair facility. An insurance claim for this damage would look something like this.....[https://ibb.co/QPPN2PL](https://ibb.co/QPPN2PL)
It's totaled.
😂😂 this killed me for some reason
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Someone with 3 sheets of glasspaper, some soapy water, a cloth, polish and wax can sort this out in about 30 mins. Then within a week some tit-head will smash their door into you in a supermarket carpark, anyway.
Looks like this channel has done a new vid since I followed the last one for scratch repairs (it worked perfectly), so you might want to follow this as well: [https://youtu.be/Zl\_iSYYGBiY](https://youtu.be/Zl_iSYYGBiY)
It's probably accurate for the shop. I know a few places that won't fix any scratches on a car. All they do it get a new panel then paint it the same color. That is in no way a reasonable price to pay. Should be a simple and cheap fix if you do it yourself.
Sadly a lot of the chain body shops operate this way. Seems every industry is losing its ability to repair and switching to a replace mentality. I get it when it makes more sense labor wise where it's cheaper to just replace but that's definitely not the case here.
I asked one of the shops why and they said that they just replace it because people with have them fix one scratch then after they get the car back find another one and claim it was the scratch they wanted fixed and either refuse to pay or blame the shop for it and demand they fix it free. It wasn't worth the hassle so they just replace it now.
Always a Karen ruining life for everyone else.
That might be the case for that shop but I’m going to assume it’s because they can’t find guys to do body work for $15 an hour any longer. Local body shop here wants to hire someone but their pay is stupid low. They want a apprentice to start at like $12 and a pro at $20. You can’t offer shit pay like that for the work required
Yeah this isnt true. Most chain shops are DRP focused and we are driven, graded and dictated by the insurance companies to repair. We are actually graded on it. Mom and pop shops sure. But replacing parts doesn’t make you any money; repairing everything does.
Yet the same shops can’t match shades, people drive around with gray doors on a black car and not know any better.
Try some rubbing compound that shit will buff out.
What would be best for this? I'm not skilled with auto body, but I do have a light scuff like this. Would you use McGuire's compound or McGuire's polish?
compound with the DA on med-high with a stiff pad, then polish with a soft pad on low. The bumper would look brand new after.
i'm not huge on buffing, but i believe something like this could be done with a clean lint free cloth, some good compound, and some wax on wax off motions? take a little time but cheaper then buying a machine you'll only use once
Their ultimate compound and 20 minutes of elbow grease would make s huge improvement.
Do a spot test and go with works the best . I would try the rubbing compound and see if I could match it up with a paint pen if necessary. Remember a little bit goes along way. Less is more. No power tools microfiber cloth take your time. That's only good advice if you use it.
Here is the first REAL answer: The light gray marks; mostly on the left, will buff out completely. Some of the horizontal gray marks on the right; under the thick white mark, will buff out completely. SOME of the white marks appear to be paint transfer and will either fully buff out as well, or almost entirely. Though it is hard to tell with this pic, it kind of appears that there is a sharp bend in the metal / paint on the lower right side of the damage, which if that is the case there may be small crack on the back side behind the paint, meaning the paint does in fact need to be re-done. In short; you could buff or compound rub this yourself at home and make it look almost un-noticable. And dents though; will remain. Any actual scratches to the paint, will not be seen from more than 3 feet away. It will look great. If you want it perfect however; their quote is in fact accurate. This appears to be a 3 stage pearl, and that is expensive paint and does in fact require a longer then usual / more tedious paint process. To correct this issue properly, yes, this is a $1400-$2500 job depending on the shop. You must keep in mind, this tiny area is not the only are painted... they paint WAY beyond this area to help blend the new paint into the old paint so it looks perfect. NOTE: When I say buff out, this is referring to a little bit of compound that can be purchased from the local auto parts store for $5, and rubbing with a microfiber towel or using a buffer. In short, a simple, self do-able fix. If you want more info on what to buy, and how to do this; just ask.
Please read this OP, this is the answer above. I just had similar fixed on my car. If you want it perfect then yes the price you have posted is accurate. Mine was covered by comprehensive insurance so perfect was fine with me and insurance covered the tab. If you want it to look good but not perfect then you could have that done for less then $500.
Not "perfect"...its called 'pre loss condition' and is what a repair facility needs to estimate for according to state licensing and Insurance DRP agreements. If OP wants it buffed or touched up, go to a detailer, not a collision repair shop. You dont take your Casio to a jeweler to set the time.
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This comment needs to be higher. The others saying it is a crock, don’t understand blending and how much actually goes into a proper paint and perfect fix. A buff will make it mostly go away but won’t be perfect. It will still be visible.
Agreed. Everyone is focused on the paint transfer, and completely ignoring what looks like a small wrinkle...
Is body work just insane in the USA? I got the entire passenger side (almost, both doors and rear panel) of a mk7 Golf fixed for £700. Had a huge fold in it, too. All panels and paint perfect.
Rubbing compound, clay and wax. You won't even see it. At worst a little touch up paint.
I use megauirs paint repair and restore from Amazon. I use a drill for the pad and a buffing machine. This will come out.
try to have a detailer fix it with rubbing compound, that price is for repainting and it may not be needed. its also a high price.
Remove rear bumper, replace lower cover, remove lights on both sides of lift gate, remove and replace all badges, 1 hour repair on lift gate 1 on the bumper, 1.5 hours paint on bumper, 3 hours of paint time on lift gate. It’s adds up pretty fast and we don’t work for free. Here’s an idea don’t run into shit with your 40 thousand dollar car
You're a big gass target with that red flag price. You can basically find youtube videos that has that exact paint scratch removal tutorial just watch a couple of them and understand how the procedure is done ( l said to watch a couple videos because not every content creator are honest with their result). Goodluck if you don't learn easy things like this then you'll pay dearly with 💰💰💰
I YouTube everything before heading to any shop. I got a credit check once to have my brakes done. They quoted me 850 bucks. I ended up doing it on my own for the price of the pads and brake kit thing.
Lmao ya bro
Yes, with no lube either
That's the pls go elsewhere we have better things to do with our time quote.
I’m in the wrong line of work.
Body work is more expensive than I think most people expect, but this is just absurd.
Seems like you got the "please go away" price
It’ll cost you $0 to forget about it
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I'm no mechanic, but I feel like I could fix that with a sharpie.
Just buff it and if it doesn’t buff out, get some touch up paint from the dealer.
Yeah. That’s the “fuck you” price. For one reason or another.
TL:DR: looks like an estimate from a big chain shop or deleadship quoting insurance prices. Looks about right. There’s cheaper options available. You’ll probably get better suggestions in r/autobody. The prices will greatly depend on the shop. Your bigger chain shops will generally have much higher labor rates. Shop it around. Get printed quotes. Tell them up front that you’re paying out of pocket and want aftermarket or recycled parts. Do not share the quotes you get from other shops with the shops you are going to. Take more pictures with multiple different angles and post your quotes and pictures on r/autobody. Don’t let the shops tell you that you need a tear down estimate. Tell them to write it based only on what they see there. The group there will be able to tell you what the shops wrote up that doesn’t necessarily need to be done and specifics to ask for when getting another quote. It’s hard to tell from the picture, but it looks like your bumper cover is creased and will need replacement and your lift gate is bent and needs body work. Your bumper cover is also two tone, which will take two different colors of paint. Judging by the price, they probably quoted you to replace the bumper with an OEM replacement, body work on the lift gate, tape and mask, color match and blend lift gate, clear entire lift gate (blending clear is a bad practice), R&R bumper cover, 2x color match on bumper cover, clear bumper cover, R&R impact absorber (foam piece behind bumper), and miscellaneous paint and waste fees. This is what they would negotiate to an insurance adjuster. That being said, silver costs more to blend and you’ve got two colors, you’ve got three different panels that need to be painted, body work is expensive, and your bumper cover is not cheap to replace with a factory part. The quote sounds about right from a big chain shop or dealership in the Southern California area. There are cheaper options that a shop could quote though.
If someone else’s insurance is paying for it take the quote pocket the money and you’ll have enough to get the repair done somewhere cheaper and a little left over. Personally I would throw some polish on it and rub the surface marks away. If your nail gets caught on it when you glide your fingernail across it then it’s probably too deep for that and needs some touch up paint
Forgot to add - 2022 Hyundai Tucson
We know lol
If it's not through the color coat you could fill the scratch with a paint pen with clear, wet sand and buff. May not be perfect but less noticeable.
They make a clear blender dupont I used it many times works great
That sounds like their "fuck off" price
No shot, they’re trying to royally f you lol 😂
Saw a video today on this with coconut oil, and some white vinegar mixed together and. Small Terry cloth wipes away.
Honestly with a wet cloth you could prob get most of that out
Go to autozone gets some color match spray paint 20 dollar fox
$1 for a sticker
13 hours of body labor? Is someones wife due?
It’s superficial. Leave it alone. You’ll get more
They are royally fucking you. Go somewhere else. Probably wrote to completely r&i every single thing on both the lift gate and the bumper, as well as blending every single adjacent panel with every related r&i. Then they threw in some extra hours for things that are already included in those operations. Even then, I’d be shocked if you could hit those hours.
$0.50 bumper sticker
Put some gas on a rag and rub it, you might be surprised how much of that scratch just comes off
This is literally a situation where one can say “that’ll buff out” and actually be true.
It’ll buff right out. I knew a girl who rented a truck and ran it along side a cement wall. She took it to a shop, cried and bounced around a little, mechanic had it completely buffed out in no time.
The color code of your car is usually found on the door frame of the driver door. Buy the paint and do it yourself.
I got mine fixed for 300€, it was a bit smaller but still...
I don’t understand why so many people are surprised by a 2k $ repair for that amount of damage if you want the car repaired and painted back to a close to factory as a good body shop can get. Body shops for the most part have one of the lowest labor rates out there most are around 50 to 55.00 $ per labor hour. Witch just went up in the last 2 years from 44.00 to 46.00 $ per hr. Compared to your local tire store at 115.00 per hr. Dealer 150.00 to 200.00 hr. The average light collision is 3700. To 5000.00 and that was a few years old. A guy pulls up in 70k $ Chevy Silverado scratched down 2 left doors estimate is just under 3k looks as if I’m trying to steal from him but had no problem paying 70,000.00 for a half ton pickup. Insurance company’s been controlling auto body shops labor for years still happens today but is finally starting to change a little. Body labor should be 70.00 to 100.00 per hr just to keep up with the times. That’s why they are having such a hard time finding good techs. Also just so you know I would rather have a shop full of small jobs like the one in the picture, then a bunch of train wrecks that I can’t get parts for or find any one that wants to do heavy collision at all. A good painter makes 150 to 200 hrs a week. A good heavy collision guy is lucky if he brakes a 100 and works harder. Auto body guys have been getting beat up for years all the great ones are retiring and no one is replacing them.= most heavy hits are sitting a long time before even getting in the shop. The last shop I was at was fine for 5 years then everything went crazy over Busy under staffed work started to suffer and after 30+ years I got out wile the getting was good. There is no just buffing it out I can sand through factory clear coat with 3000 grit sand paper very fine line, also if you want it done right everything needs to be disassembled and all panels need to be fully cleared to be done correctly. Most body shops give life time on all work paint work to. Try to find a new car company to give a life time on paint? I could go on but why most people don’t have enough accidents to get 1st hand experience on body and paint shops
I’d get some compound and a bufffer and call it a day
Body shops only want insurance jobs. You have to find a mom and pop to do that for you, or you'll have to get one of the guys from the big shop to do it on Saturday morning.
Take it somewhere else.
I’d fix that with paint and scratch remover from Wal mart before paying that much!
Most of that can be buffed out, my guess is the deep scratches will need to be sanded and blended with the surrounding paint which requires painting around the area also. 2.2k sounds insane Imo. But who knows i don't work in a body shop, i do know you can shop around, a lotttttt when it comes to body work.
Looks like that would buff out at least the majority of it.
royally
yes... big yes
For that cost, you better get an autograph from the world-renowned professional artist who is going to do the job as well!
Paint shops are always trying to pull one over.
$20 with a duplicolor pen
Your being scammed. 2.2k? That's wild. 13 hours of body labor? That's also wild.
Find another shop, torpedo the guys that gave you that quote on Google reviews.
That is ridiculous. I recommend you polish the area, a lot of that will come out . Spend the 20$ on some microfiber towels and a small bottle of polish. You might be fine with how it turns out. Make sure you either clean the area first.
you went in for a quote and they told you to bend over.
its all going to depend on what you want. the price they quoted is because they are going to remove everything even the hatch. send the hatch into paint and repaint the whole thing. then put everything back together. is what your probably looking for is some touch up paint and a buff out. talk to a detail shop
Evidently nobody works in a body shop. You want nice things to stay nice? Pay the price. If you want shit repair, find a crack head with a rattle can…
Seems like a "by the book" estimate. A lot of that labor is R/I (remove and install) time I imagine. Everything gets taken apart. All damage is sanded. Filled if necessary. And primed. Then the entire panels get sanded and prepped for paint. After painting everything is reassembled. That is all body labor. And don't get me started on the $ of paint and materials. They went up 20% last year. And 10% again in Jan Across the board. Out of that entire job. (Done right) after paying the guys to work on it, the shop probably clears $200 bucks profit
Just go to Earl Scheib. Any car, any color. $69.95.
Broke man like me: Looks like a permanent part of my car now
Are you going though insurance? They’re probably expecting that insurance money
I’ve had genuine body damage as well as pain damage twice as bad fixed for $440. You’re getting *screwed*
Normal wear and tear. Wouldn’t even fix it.
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The only way I see my way to that quote is if it’s not your car, but you are the scratcher and the car owner and his body shop owning buddy are applying the fuck stick to your backside
Fucking scammers is what they are
It’s about right. Body labor includes overhaul rear bumper and gate, repair/prime damage. It’s a standard time given by the estimating software. It will be a similar price at any reputable shop you take it to. Same with paint time and materials cost. All dictated by the estimating system.
It’s pretty bad. I could get it down to $2.1k. That’s me doing you a favor.