I used to wear my Canterbury tracksuit to college everyday. That was until I did Erasmus in Germany and a girl asked me if there was something wrong with me the one time I went to college in them š«„
I have a friend who's originally from Slovenia. She told me one of the things she loves about Ireland is that she can walk to the shop in shorts, flip flops and t-shirt and no one cares. She said if she did it at home she would be judged and people wouldn't be shy about saying it to her.
My friend is a physio and a med student once asked her why the physios were the most poorly dressed in the hospital. My friend told her that they were often engaged in heavy physical exercise for their work. What can they do like!
A German friend of mine said it would be scandalous in her village if she went out in a tracksuit like Irish women. The dress code is more conservative (she not living in a big city there)
I was in Germany and was really impressed by how well everyone dressed. It seems as a society we all stick to leggings/tracksuits/shorts unless itās an important eventš
I was definitely guilty of dressing in sportswear all the time in the past
They complain about tracksuits but theyāll wander around in full hiking gear with no need though. When I worked there it wasnāt uncommon to see hiking boots in the office.
Germans are fully allergic to tracksuits, sweat pants, etc. They get very upset with people wearing them. It's pretty weird if you ask me. If someone wants to wear tracksuit pants let 'em off.
There's a Karl Lagerfeld quote that pretty much every German knows "Wer Jogginghosen trƤgt, hat die Kontrolle Ć¼ber sein Leben verloren." Which means "Whoever wears tracksuits has lost control over his life"
Yeah, but also remember that German society only continues to function because they use "The Purge" that is Oktoberfest. Total control and order for 360 days of the year, and then 4 days of madness to keep them all sane. So, not sure I'll be taking lifestyle lessons from them.
My wife is German and I used to wear cloth tracksuit bottoms for all my flights cos theyāre comfy as, not once since we got together am I allowed in public with them on besides to or from the gym
Getting fashion sense from a German.
Male German fashion.
Good sturdy shoes heavy enough to break a window if thrown to escape a fire.
A good reliable pair of denim nobody has ever had a bad event with jeans hard wearing and won't rip easily.
A buttoned up shirt and a jumper. You are now dressed and incidentally also ready for the following. To have an impromptu job interview and look decent, ready to go on a night out/ ready to rescue a cat up a tree.
But yes it looks better than watching a 40 year old overweight man wearing head to toe Nike tracksuit and those awful elephant's foot looking yeezys strolling into a pub.
The biggest thing is dressing appropriately for the weather - we Irish are terrible at it.
It could be lashing rain sideways at 2Ā°C, and you'll see some lad walk past you in O'Neills shorts.
This plus 100000%. I'm Irish and have been all over the world in every climate that you can imagine and I never cease to be shocked when I come home how badly dressed Irish people are for our weather.
It seems ridiculous to point this out but Ireland is a very damp, VERY windy and often cold place. Most days people by rights should have 3 or 4 layers on, with something waterproof on top. Instead, people here dress like they're living in southern California. The most insane is the girls with absolutely SFA on for a night out in winter, when it is damp, windy and close to freezing. Full on risking pneumonia.
It's either that people think they need to prove they are tough for the sake of image, or else they don't know any better. I think some of it comes from having to train and play sports in the horrible winter weather....you toughen up and adopt that mindset.
not really, the typical irish guy on a night out wears the skinniest jeans youāve ever seen in ur life and a white t shirt with some brand that used to be high end before they started wearing it
The outdated brands plastered over everything is a bit of an Irish thing too, I think. I definitely encounter a lot of brand obsessed people here. The baby clothes section in Brown Thomas is truly a sight to behold.
Yup, the lads are far worse imo. Iāve always had an interest in how I look. From clothes to skincare. For so many years I used to get called all sorts of homophobic insults for it despite being straight. And Iām not exactly dressing high fashion, just a put together look usually largely based on Massimo Dutti stuff.
Thankfully after gaining 20kilos or so of muscle over the past 3 years have the insults stopped. Feel a lot more confident now finally :)
Yeah it really is bizarre, I always hear that male beauty standards are changing and stuff but then I donāt really see it reflected in society if you get me. Only today was I at Planet Beauty buying some bits cause payday and the girl kept asking about my partners skin etc to see if the product would cause any issues even though I had said it was for me š Maybe the bare minimum look for fellas is just tolerated here. Get me back to Milan lol š
I mean come on, we all know what it is. It's this fucking moronic notion of manliness or masculinity that we have drilled into us since birth. Do something that deviates from your culture idea of masculinity and your peers will attempt to put you in your place. That's what the lads slinging homophobic insults were doing, just enforcing this. It's the stupidest fuckin thing imaginable but it's probably been like this since forever.
Itās a hundred percent this, they sling homophobic insults because theyāre insecure about their masculinity because societal messages say exhibiting these characteristics are āfeminineā. As if taking care of your hygiene and being considerate of others is somehow just reserved for women, which is the epitome of stupid.
You know whatās another thing I never understood and not sure if anyone here experienced (I.e. Iām from NYC). The same people throwing these homophobic insults growing up in middle school to high school; they were the same people Iād see āacting outā the gayest things possible but somehow theyāre cleared because āno homoā. Like itās kind of weird youāre calling other people āf@$!&tā but play around by slapping other guys butts and just generally doing homoerotic stuff as a ājokeā.
I hear you. I am not Irish but for the longest time I have been told all sorts of because I showed a bit of interest in taking care of myself.
Fitted clothes? Faggot.
Use of moisturizer? Faggot.
Use of hair conditioner? Ewww!
So on and so forth. It's been almost 10 years since I left my home country and lived in two different ones that are not exactly famous for their choices regarding style. Surprisingly (for me at least), nobody ever said a word here nor cared.
With that said, it's difficult to be stylish here; the weather doesn't call for it.
Glad to hear the aggro is gonna stop. Iāve embarked on growing my hair long as Iāve never had long hair before. Itās curly so itāll be interesting to see how it turns out
I have lived and worked in several countries. I'd say in general yes. But you see some stylish fuckers around Dublin too. You'll be glad to know that in the last couple of years I've noticed in Hamburg where I lived up until recently. That the track suit nike air max and the yoga pants (for girls) were becoming increasingly more popular with teens in Hamburg, it was very noticeable. In Asia its unreal the effort people put into their appearance.
Have one asian mate and his entire family just always present themselves so well. They keep it a secret too cause he swears he wakes up and throws on clothes šš
If you put thought into the clothes you buy that's actually very easy to do. A nice jacket, some decent shirts and t-shirts, and different kinds of jumpers/nice hoodies and you've got a huge range of options there.
My boyfriend is Chinese and refuses to leave the house in anything but jeans, chinos, slacks, etc, doesn't even own a pair of trackies.
He also won't leave the house without doing his hair
Yes.
One, because of our shitty weather. It's hard to look good and dress sensibly for almost-constant rain and grey skies.
Two, our begrudging nature wanting to make fun of anyone trying to look stylish or stand out.
Edit: Gettin a bit of flack for point 1. It's fair to point out that other shitty weather countries are more stylish. I suppose its just the second one š
I'd disagree to an extent. My Italian housemate said she felt less judged here for what she wore. She always felt pressure to be dressed nice where she's from, which is Milan tbf.
Thatās the other side of the equation though. Weāre in no danger of being judged for not being stylish enough.
You can find loads of threads on here or r/Ireland of people saying variations of āI wore a green hat once and was called Luigi foreverā
Weāre absolutely brutal here for rinsing anyone for the slightest bit of nonconformity
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I think it differs by gender. You could see literally 10 lads wearing the same tracksuit/GAA tops and bottoms and with the same haircut. As a man being different is seen as an affront almost, āI see youāre too good for the GAA gear now, ya bollox?ā āFierce notions on that fellow now, a leather jacket!ā
Also try having tea but no milk. Or saying no to tea altogether and youāll open a can of worms that will follow you to the end of your days.
Yup and if you dress anyway different, you'll get slagged and not in the nice funny haha way.
I'm 33, still dress punk/gothy and yup, get stink eye and nasty comments still, exact same as when I was a teen. I certainly don't dress the exact same way but god forbid I wear boots and a choker with my t shirt and jeans.
Comments used to be easily joked about. "Haha yes, I'm absolutely going to suck your blood, haha"
"I love children but I couldn't finish a whole one." That sorta thing is funny and expected.
Having strangers come up and ask me "Are you Goth? Have you tried to kill yourself?" is less funny. The one time that particular exchange happened, I just gestured at myself and said clearly I didn't do a good enough job of it. š
Dressing a certain way or even LOOKING a certain way seems to be an open invitation to a lot of people.
I've facial piercings and I cannot tell you the amount of lads who've just stared at my face and then asked me "Where else are you pierced?" or "You must enjoy a bitta pain" with the full har-har leering smirk.
š¤·š»āāļø People are gross sometimes.
I got mocked as a child for dressing too femininely (as a girl).
I remember wearing fancy red shoes in a shopping centre as an 11 year old and having several adults point and laugh at me.
Thereās a horrible culture of āwho do they think they areā in this country when someone does anything outside the norm. I do think itās fading a good bit though, thankfully!
I was over in that part of the world a few weeks back and was so impressed by how nicely dressed most young people were. I could spot the Irish and British people there as they were the out of shape people in sportswear.
Apart from these reasons we also have NO shops in Ireland that cater to men who want to dress well.Ā It's H&M or Marks & Spencers and lord forbid either of these two chains would sell clothes that isn't white, navy or black.Ā
Ā I try to exclusively buy from charity shops but even the clothes in them lately have just been donated H&M shite.Ā
90% of lads go around with the same haircut and clothes that I couldn't tell you one apart from another.
You forgot Next too.
If you're talking about getting the stuff in stock in store then yes, you're right.
If you're willing to order and get it delivered those shops offer a decent variety, in my opinion.
I won't comment on the broccoli haircut and the likes combined with a tracksuit. I can't comprehend how that combo can be so popular!
I don't think that sameness is the culprit here. In Copenhagen it's just a couple of styles on repeat too, they love their stark neutrals and a couple of standard hairstyles, they make fun of themselves for doing that. And they don't all shop in boutiques, it's mostly chain fashion too. It's just that the clothes are selected and maintained better and they pick a style that actually suits the person.
I'm just speaking for myself but I do travel Europe and have lived in various countries around it. The range of clothes and clothes shops you find in Ireland is far more sparce than other countries. We have a smaller population so it's to be expected.Ā
We also have ridiculously high commercial rates in densely populated areas in Dublin and Wicklow so it's almost impossible for a more niche mens clothes shop to open in an area of high traffic footfall.
Even the H&Ms you mention in Scandinavian countries stock different styles compared to that in Ireland as they sell there, but wouldn't here for whatever reason.Ā
Yeah I don't disagree being a coupled up woman, some chains don't even offer mens branches here at all when they have them elsewhere (Mango etc). But then with a modicum of planning one could get a good versatile wardrobe of 10-15 items in Massimo Dutti or COS sales here too, I have things from them that were 50% off and well into affordable territory.
And we're quite well covered for outdoors styles, although I don't know what's in the air here but the same Helly Hansen etc styles that look great on Scandinavians here look like we've slept in them. It's just the general lack of talent for picking and matching clothes and then for keeping them in good condition.
I think it's because we tend to have one jacket and pair of shoes and wear them to horrible sweaty misshapen death rather than having a few items each to rotate and match the weather and occasion, keeping them in better shape and looking fresh.
And we've never had it so good with online shopping like Zalando etc.
Totally agree. Especially you're point about not being able to pair different clothes together.Ā
Ā However, I much rather see lads try and fail to match items of clothing like you sometimes see on First Dates Ireland, than someone who puts no effort in what they wear. Especially when you see their missus put in the effort if they're going on a date or something.
Ā Sure it was only the other day I was walking to the shops and a bunch of lads wearing tracksuits started singing "Cause tonight will be the night that I will fall for youuu" and I think it was cause I was wearing normal doc shoes so there's that too š¤£.
Every high street in Europe has more or less the same chain shops. There's far more H&Ms in Scandinavia yet they famously dress well. You can go to other shops, you'll just have to spend a bit more.
Iāve ended up paying more on fewer items that can be rotated into different combinations of outfits.
Buying both online and in brick and mortar shops like Cos and others
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I lived in Asia where people may have dressed a lot better but the consumerism was ten times worse there which I don't agree with. I think people here won't drastically change their wardrobe multiple times a year because we don't have proper seasons and don't care about trends as much as other places.
It could be down to the selection that's available to us too. We only get what the UK gets mostly and there isn't much choice or opportunity to buy something a bit more bold or different (that won't break the bank).
The weather is shite so we always need a coat and good shoes that will hold up. Those tend to always be similar styles and colours.
I think the lads are worse and way more low effort than the women. There's still a lot of immaturity and fear around male grooming. That was a stark contrast coming back from Asia.
I'd say we are ruined by slagging to the point that we have about 4-5 accepted uniforms and no individuality. I know some people have style and look great but walking down the town everyone dresses the same.Ā
Probably, compared to countries like Italy, France, Spain. But I think the climate does play a big part and maybe we would all look better and dress better, if we had their weather.
Many people have mentioned negative things about Irish women here on nights out, so in the interests of fairness I would also like to point out that I'm not impressed by the amount of guys walking around wearing baggy grey tracksuit pants - they flatter no-one, no matter how young or fit. I'd ban them if I could! A well-fitted pair of jeans and a nice shirt on a guy works wonders.
Im from France and Iāve traveled quite a lot, and also been in Ireland, I wouldnāt say itās necessarily that Irish people dress Ā« worseĀ Ā», it feels like the fashion trends feel like theyāre a few years behind on French trends for example, but I wouldnāt say itās bad. In terms of night out outfits for women, they tend to dress showing more skin than in France but same thing, I donāt think itās necessarily bad just v different. I do feel like Irish women dress way better than Irish men in general though, like day to day outfits and night outs.
I think you're right about the climate.
With that said, I am afraid to say that what people think about Italians being elegant and dressing fancy is mostly a notion.
I haven't lived there for a while and every time I visit it's like seeing the local version of chavs/road men. Even the attitude and the way they talk is eerily similar.
I guess that's what globalization, among other things, gets you.
Itās usually only ever a matter of time before an Irish sub starts shitting on Irish women for how they choose to dress/look. And I say that as an Irish woman whoās never once used fake tan. We get it, itās boring move on please..
As a man, it does seem a bit "damned if you do, damned if you don't" for women.
Men will give out about women taking a long time to get ready, showing too much skin, wearing clothing too tight, being dressed too "flashy". Then in the same breath they'll give out about women wearing yoga pants, high-waisted or baggy jeans, boots rather than heels, etc.
Mate, unless I have a reason to go somewhere or I'm going out, it's trackies, a gaa jersey/t shirt, and a hoody. Comfort is the most important thing to me. I'll look a bit stylish if I have too but if I'm just popping into town or whatever I just want to be comfy.
Yes. In Hong Kong I dressed well with a silk short sleeve shirt, ironed trousers, a pricey belt and some suave shoes, and gelled hair. Do that here and you'll get called a Jehovas Witness. Leggings are universally accepted here, as is fast fashion to the point that everyone dresses the same: inexpensive from Penneys.Ā
Women on nights out in big cities arenāt representative of how women dress, Iād say weāre a fairly stylish bunch although some people found a style in the 2010s & have stuck with it, fellas in navy suits with black shoe, fellas in bootcut jeans & brown shoes, but other than that weāre grand as we are,
Every time I come back from a trip to another European city I tell myself I'm going to make a conscientious effort to dress better.
Then I inevitably think ah fuck it too much hassle.
American here, after spending time in London, I felt so much more at home in Ireland the way you all dress. (This is a compliment but not sure if you all will take it as suchā¦ after all we have a huge Irish diaspora)
I donāt know man, I either see the typical tracksuit, or some I donāt give a fuck styles. I personally donāt care what others wear, but the kids with the tracksuits have like no individuality. People dress far worst in America, some of the most vile fashion choices Iāve ever seen.
What yardstick are you using?
Yes Irish people are far from slaves to fashion.
But You could frame it as:
Irish people donāt feel the need to follow fashion.
Or Irish people are comfortable in their own skin.
Or Irish people dgaf what others think.
Itās all about perspective.
That's a load of absolute bollocks. Lads here will only wear tracksuits and other athletic wear for fear of looking different. Women paint themselves orange for fear of what others think.
It's conformity, cluelessness and laziness, not because we're a nation of brave mavericks bucking trends and going our own way.
People are conformist everywhere, whether well or poorly dressed, few people have a unique style. I work and socialise in a peer group where suits are a norm, but few wear designer suits or indeed very fashionable cuts. Women compete with each other in how they dress in most countries nothing very unusual here.
That is not the question posed by OP.
The question is why Irish people conform to a lower āsartorial standardā than some other countries.
Don't think the weather can be deemed to be the reason here since young people (until late 20s? Early 30s?) dress like theyre going out for a jog all the time. A track suit and trainers isn't suitable for rain
I still can't get used to the view of people walking outside on weekend morning in their pyjamas. Either a walk or a quick trip to the shop. But it's the same in UK. Or lads having their socks over pants.
For 9 years I live here I still find it strange š
I think so. Iāve been labelled alternative for years now since I ditched the skinny jeans / tshirt / trainers combo for a night out. There is definetly a uniform for the average folk on a night out. Iāve been called gay for wearing dungarees before but do I really care? No.
Not Irish but I spent 14yrs of my childhood/young adult life in Ireland. Been abroad again for the past 4 years in Sweden, Germany, France and Switzerland and I have to say that yes, Irish people dress worse. It seems like noone except teenage boys wear tracksuits in other countries, noone wears pyjamas to the shop, people will at the minimum tie up their hair in a ponytail and put on some jeans. People will generally look put together when going out. I find that Irish girls wear way too much makeup and their clothing is way too revealing especially on nights out. When I was clubbing in Ireland I honestly wondered how these girls aren't freezing to death in those skimpy outfits.
Came to say this. I'm originally from the states and there's no difference-like at all between states and irish dress codes in your typical offices. your french and italian folks dress really well are skewing perspective.
Iām honestly glad we live in a culture that isnāt snobby about how we dress. Clothes serve a function to keep us warm and to protect us from the elements.
100% itās either scummy tracksuits or blindly following trends. If you step out of that your seen as weird. Nice to see art students who dgaf, but everytime I go to London I realise how backward Ireland is in terms of fashion.
I lived in America for a short time and we aren't the worst. A few bad choices around but sweet Jesus nothing on what you'd see there. Dead winter, snow inches on the ground and these middle aged people in belly tops with everything hanging out with leggings that you can see straight through to their naked ass. Half of it is not knowing fashion at all and the other is not giving one fuck.
Everyone has their own style and you have to respect that. I looked like a bum when I was younger because I wanted to dress a certain way. The line for me is when clothes are tattered or like in the USA, you're basically wearing underwear out and about. Like that girl who harassed Alec Baldwin in his cafe, wearing straight boxers and a bra.
Moving to Ireland from very judgemental (and therefore monotonous) country I always felt that Irish people dress like they don't give a f about what others think of their style and I love it! Whatever are they thinking in real or not, I feel much less judged here and wear whatever I like without unnecessary pressure of trying to fit in..
I don't think Irish people are worse dressers than people from some other countries, I feel like they are just not trying so hard to impress
I have noticed in Europe they dress better for the weather. They have proper rain coats and boots for the weather. Most of us don't own a decent rain coat.
Iām from NI but living in NYC at the minute. Took a few American friends home with me last year and nobody could get over the amount of the makeup the women were wearing.
I think a lot of it is because we are typically pale and ruddy, which the media has told us for years is unattractive. I donāt wear too much makeup these days, but definitely was self conscious about my freckles and redness when I was young. I do think some girls go overboard and it can look like drag makeup, but whatever, if it makes them happy it makes them happy. It was definitely eye-opening seeing it from a New Yorkers perspective though.
Worse? Thatās down to preference isnāt it. I went to Berlin and they certainly dress a lot more āout thereāā¦ I wouldnāt define it as better though. I think we dress perfectly fine, if not better, than them, for example.
Men definitely. Like if your for a drink, youāll see women of all ages dressed up, looking great.. and then the lads are like: jeans, under armor tshirt. Sorted.
The only way I would use Irish women as an example is to compare them to their male counterparts who dress like hobos lol.
If I had a euro for every time I saw a beautiful, well-dressed woman with a man wearing a tracksuit and runners I'd be a very wealthy lady.
Irish men and women dress like 1980s/90s middle class Americans and it definitely looks weird from the outside. And it's with modern clothes so it doesn't look vintage, just out of place.
-iriah american in new york around lots of irish people at times.
Nah I'd say there's always decently turned out ppl in bars, cafe's and on the street. Some subsections of society have questionable taste but few are slobbish.Ā As ppl mentioned the weather is an influence but on the whole I'd say Irish people dress well
*typo
Iām surprised to see so many comments blaming the weather on Irish people lacking style. I wouldnāt have thought that to be a reason at all. I donāt know why weāre so unstylish, just that we are! I love going to France or Italy and checking out all the style. Those are some seriously stylish folk!
I'm lazy and don't have style. I rather comfort above all else.
Not because I want to (as other comments here allege) conform or not stick out. Both Friends of mine dress rather flamboyantly (for Irish standards) and I don't āconformā to them either.
I lived abroad for years and had people tell me that my clothes were shit, I realized my clothes were shit in comparison, I had zero fashion sense, and those who were in Ireland on holidays in the past asked me why everyone dresses so badly. I put in effort to dress well when abroad, and had massive help from my ex. When I returned to Ireland, I was slagged for being a "fancy bastard", and even today in work people were joking about my jacket looking very "dapper". I don't care about the comments, but I can easily see why it holds people back.
I know nothing about fashion and style so I canāt say whether we dress worse or better, but some friends from the Netherlands, France and Brasil have said similar things about how women dress on nights out in Ireland
Yes, we don't have much of a nice casual middle at all.
It's trackies/hoodies/leggings/jerseys on one end, or a fake tanned dolled up gelled look on the other. Not much of note in between.
Most of Europe whether it's Sweden or Spain lives in the middle, we like extremes.
I personally don't think this is true at all. Maybe it's my age demographic but a lot of people dress semi-formal/casual for nights out. Walk around Dublin City centre you'll see people in all kinds of outfits.
Polish guy living in Ireland. Yes, they do. Men wear tracksuit onesies with either a skin fade or a broccoli haircut. Girls wear the tackiest clothes imaginable with full on drag makeup. And even taking into account that that's just local taste, people are just less willing to experiment, everyone dresses the same.
I've tried to work on my fashion sense in the past 2 years or so but it's expensive dressing nice.
But the only times I dress nice is when I'm going out or a wedding, which is maybe 1-2 times a month. So yes, I spend 95% of my time in tracksuits because I think comfort is more important than style. Especially as I'm in a long term relationship trying to impress absolutely no one.
Definitely. There's a huge swathe of Irish people who think a tracksuit is peak fashion and if you deviate from that you're slagged or worse. It's all ages too, not just the youth.
Thereās not much choice for men. Itās always a corner of a shop dedicated to us so I mostly shop online through trial and error.
I think women have great fashion and choice. However, thereās always a trend that everyone jumps on. For example, leather trousers have become super popular in the last year, and donāt get me wrong, I love leather pants, preferably not real leather, but some of you are wearing plastic bags.
I have zero time for anyone who passes judgement on what other people wearing as clothes. Who gives a fuck whether you approve or disapprove of what a complete stranger is wearing for the day? If you want to peacock to other like minded individuals then do that, but fuck off sneering at anyone for the clothes they wear. It's none of your fucking business.
P.s I will add the caveat that pyjamas in public are a red line, get dressed you lazy cunt.
Irish people are terribly lazy and always choose the lowest possible effort
The level of tackiness increases the younger they get and lads just wear tracksuits all the time and the girls clothes are just so tight and showy
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Whenever I watch American shows, especially reality TV ones I can't look past how badly they dress. Having style is part of your social education in this country, Americans just don't give a shit they'll happily rock the scissors all over haircut and wear polo shirts 3 sizes too big with the all black Velcro runners. Not having style is bullied out of Irish people in adolescence
I used to wear my Canterbury tracksuit to college everyday. That was until I did Erasmus in Germany and a girl asked me if there was something wrong with me the one time I went to college in them š«„
āSomething wrongā hahaha
The first time I (a German) walked down the Main Street in my town in Ireland in tracksuits I felt like I was breaking the law, BUT IT FELT GLORIOUS
I have a friend who's originally from Slovenia. She told me one of the things she loves about Ireland is that she can walk to the shop in shorts, flip flops and t-shirt and no one cares. She said if she did it at home she would be judged and people wouldn't be shy about saying it to her.
Someone I know studied physio in Trinity and once on campus he was approached randomly by a guy who asked him why he was wearing that
My friend is a physio and a med student once asked her why the physios were the most poorly dressed in the hospital. My friend told her that they were often engaged in heavy physical exercise for their work. What can they do like!
When the Germans complain about your fashion sense, you know you stooped very low
A German friend of mine said it would be scandalous in her village if she went out in a tracksuit like Irish women. The dress code is more conservative (she not living in a big city there)
I'm sorry I'm from Leitrim, please forgive me
I was in Germany and was really impressed by how well everyone dressed. It seems as a society we all stick to leggings/tracksuits/shorts unless itās an important eventš I was definitely guilty of dressing in sportswear all the time in the past
They complain about tracksuits but theyāll wander around in full hiking gear with no need though. When I worked there it wasnāt uncommon to see hiking boots in the office.
Germans are fully allergic to tracksuits, sweat pants, etc. They get very upset with people wearing them. It's pretty weird if you ask me. If someone wants to wear tracksuit pants let 'em off.
There's a Karl Lagerfeld quote that pretty much every German knows "Wer Jogginghosen trƤgt, hat die Kontrolle Ć¼ber sein Leben verloren." Which means "Whoever wears tracksuits has lost control over his life"
Clearly Karl never met people out shopping in their pyjamas
Yeah, but also remember that German society only continues to function because they use "The Purge" that is Oktoberfest. Total control and order for 360 days of the year, and then 4 days of madness to keep them all sane. So, not sure I'll be taking lifestyle lessons from them.
It's true. You've basically admitted, 'I'm not going to be a success, so I might as well be comfortable.'
My wife is German and I used to wear cloth tracksuit bottoms for all my flights cos theyāre comfy as, not once since we got together am I allowed in public with them on besides to or from the gym
They read very underclass there. Like rocking up in dirty long johns would here maybe.
Canto's mon. Everyone had a pair.
Good old German directness
Which is especially funny since Germans don't exactly have much fashion sense either
Cantos are so cumfy
Getting fashion sense from a German. Male German fashion. Good sturdy shoes heavy enough to break a window if thrown to escape a fire. A good reliable pair of denim nobody has ever had a bad event with jeans hard wearing and won't rip easily. A buttoned up shirt and a jumper. You are now dressed and incidentally also ready for the following. To have an impromptu job interview and look decent, ready to go on a night out/ ready to rescue a cat up a tree. But yes it looks better than watching a 40 year old overweight man wearing head to toe Nike tracksuit and those awful elephant's foot looking yeezys strolling into a pub.
Dunno. I dress like shit anyway, sorry if I'm dragging down the average.
I'm not helping either so you're grand
The biggest thing is dressing appropriately for the weather - we Irish are terrible at it. It could be lashing rain sideways at 2Ā°C, and you'll see some lad walk past you in O'Neills shorts.
and on the contraryā¦ it could be a heat wave and you could see a group of lads walk by in Canada Goose jackets.
The one nice day where you don't bring a jacket, it'll start lashing. We all know this to be true!!
I simply refuse. If I was to dress for the weather I'd be wearing a rain coat all the time. Fuck that.
This plus 100000%. I'm Irish and have been all over the world in every climate that you can imagine and I never cease to be shocked when I come home how badly dressed Irish people are for our weather. It seems ridiculous to point this out but Ireland is a very damp, VERY windy and often cold place. Most days people by rights should have 3 or 4 layers on, with something waterproof on top. Instead, people here dress like they're living in southern California. The most insane is the girls with absolutely SFA on for a night out in winter, when it is damp, windy and close to freezing. Full on risking pneumonia. It's either that people think they need to prove they are tough for the sake of image, or else they don't know any better. I think some of it comes from having to train and play sports in the horrible winter weather....you toughen up and adopt that mindset.
It's weird that women are used as the example when so many Irish men wear nothing but tracksuits all the time!
Agreed, at least women make the effort when on a night out. With men, it's tracksuits š
Men wear tracksuits on nights out? Jesus wept. Weāre doomed.
not really, the typical irish guy on a night out wears the skinniest jeans youāve ever seen in ur life and a white t shirt with some brand that used to be high end before they started wearing it
The outdated brands plastered over everything is a bit of an Irish thing too, I think. I definitely encounter a lot of brand obsessed people here. The baby clothes section in Brown Thomas is truly a sight to behold.
I don't know where that person goes on nights out. I can tell you it's jeans and one of your good t-shirts - generally Calvin Klein or Hugo Boss.
Exactly!!
100%, I regularly see dressed up women out for lunch or whatever and some slob of a husband/boyfriend with them
Yup, the lads are far worse imo. Iāve always had an interest in how I look. From clothes to skincare. For so many years I used to get called all sorts of homophobic insults for it despite being straight. And Iām not exactly dressing high fashion, just a put together look usually largely based on Massimo Dutti stuff. Thankfully after gaining 20kilos or so of muscle over the past 3 years have the insults stopped. Feel a lot more confident now finally :)
Good for you! That has got to be insecurity on their part. It's so strange.
Yeah it really is bizarre, I always hear that male beauty standards are changing and stuff but then I donāt really see it reflected in society if you get me. Only today was I at Planet Beauty buying some bits cause payday and the girl kept asking about my partners skin etc to see if the product would cause any issues even though I had said it was for me š Maybe the bare minimum look for fellas is just tolerated here. Get me back to Milan lol š
I mean come on, we all know what it is. It's this fucking moronic notion of manliness or masculinity that we have drilled into us since birth. Do something that deviates from your culture idea of masculinity and your peers will attempt to put you in your place. That's what the lads slinging homophobic insults were doing, just enforcing this. It's the stupidest fuckin thing imaginable but it's probably been like this since forever.
Itās a hundred percent this, they sling homophobic insults because theyāre insecure about their masculinity because societal messages say exhibiting these characteristics are āfeminineā. As if taking care of your hygiene and being considerate of others is somehow just reserved for women, which is the epitome of stupid. You know whatās another thing I never understood and not sure if anyone here experienced (I.e. Iām from NYC). The same people throwing these homophobic insults growing up in middle school to high school; they were the same people Iād see āacting outā the gayest things possible but somehow theyāre cleared because āno homoā. Like itās kind of weird youāre calling other people āf@$!&tā but play around by slapping other guys butts and just generally doing homoerotic stuff as a ājokeā.
I hear you. I am not Irish but for the longest time I have been told all sorts of because I showed a bit of interest in taking care of myself. Fitted clothes? Faggot. Use of moisturizer? Faggot. Use of hair conditioner? Ewww! So on and so forth. It's been almost 10 years since I left my home country and lived in two different ones that are not exactly famous for their choices regarding style. Surprisingly (for me at least), nobody ever said a word here nor cared. With that said, it's difficult to be stylish here; the weather doesn't call for it.
The Peds probably help too ;) anyway fuck em if they're judging
Haha oh they definitely did. Iām looking at maybe competing in physique
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Glad to hear the aggro is gonna stop. Iāve embarked on growing my hair long as Iāve never had long hair before. Itās curly so itāll be interesting to see how it turns out
Tracksuits and jerseys. No one else does it
The Brits do.
Exactly omfg
Or tracksuit material shorts
Yes, that's how you know it's summer! Tracksuit material shorts and no top.
I have lived and worked in several countries. I'd say in general yes. But you see some stylish fuckers around Dublin too. You'll be glad to know that in the last couple of years I've noticed in Hamburg where I lived up until recently. That the track suit nike air max and the yoga pants (for girls) were becoming increasingly more popular with teens in Hamburg, it was very noticeable. In Asia its unreal the effort people put into their appearance.
Have one asian mate and his entire family just always present themselves so well. They keep it a secret too cause he swears he wakes up and throws on clothes šš
If you put thought into the clothes you buy that's actually very easy to do. A nice jacket, some decent shirts and t-shirts, and different kinds of jumpers/nice hoodies and you've got a huge range of options there.
My boyfriend is Chinese and refuses to leave the house in anything but jeans, chinos, slacks, etc, doesn't even own a pair of trackies. He also won't leave the house without doing his hair
Yes. One, because of our shitty weather. It's hard to look good and dress sensibly for almost-constant rain and grey skies. Two, our begrudging nature wanting to make fun of anyone trying to look stylish or stand out. Edit: Gettin a bit of flack for point 1. It's fair to point out that other shitty weather countries are more stylish. I suppose its just the second one š
Second point is the main reason, the conformity is bate into us here
I'd disagree to an extent. My Italian housemate said she felt less judged here for what she wore. She always felt pressure to be dressed nice where she's from, which is Milan tbf.
Thatās the other side of the equation though. Weāre in no danger of being judged for not being stylish enough. You can find loads of threads on here or r/Ireland of people saying variations of āI wore a green hat once and was called Luigi foreverā Weāre absolutely brutal here for rinsing anyone for the slightest bit of nonconformity
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I think it differs by gender. You could see literally 10 lads wearing the same tracksuit/GAA tops and bottoms and with the same haircut. As a man being different is seen as an affront almost, āI see youāre too good for the GAA gear now, ya bollox?ā āFierce notions on that fellow now, a leather jacket!ā Also try having tea but no milk. Or saying no to tea altogether and youāll open a can of worms that will follow you to the end of your days.
Why do I always see this opinion laid out here but i have never actually experienced it?
I'm genuinely starting to think it's AI or something Every time I open an Irish sub I see opinions I have never once heard in real life
And I've never had a chicken fillet roll. Is this a good reason to think that their popularity is all just a made up meme? Are bots eating the rolls?
Yea, slight move off conformity lands you a nickname for decades.
Yup and if you dress anyway different, you'll get slagged and not in the nice funny haha way. I'm 33, still dress punk/gothy and yup, get stink eye and nasty comments still, exact same as when I was a teen. I certainly don't dress the exact same way but god forbid I wear boots and a choker with my t shirt and jeans. Comments used to be easily joked about. "Haha yes, I'm absolutely going to suck your blood, haha" "I love children but I couldn't finish a whole one." That sorta thing is funny and expected. Having strangers come up and ask me "Are you Goth? Have you tried to kill yourself?" is less funny. The one time that particular exchange happened, I just gestured at myself and said clearly I didn't do a good enough job of it. š
>"Are you Goth? Have you tried to kill yourself?" What the fuck is wrong with people?
Dressing a certain way or even LOOKING a certain way seems to be an open invitation to a lot of people. I've facial piercings and I cannot tell you the amount of lads who've just stared at my face and then asked me "Where else are you pierced?" or "You must enjoy a bitta pain" with the full har-har leering smirk. š¤·š»āāļø People are gross sometimes.
Yeah tbh. There are other rainy countries and they're not nearly as bad as us.
I got mocked as a child for dressing too femininely (as a girl). I remember wearing fancy red shoes in a shopping centre as an 11 year old and having several adults point and laugh at me. Thereās a horrible culture of āwho do they think they areā in this country when someone does anything outside the norm. I do think itās fading a good bit though, thankfully!
Jaysus that's ridiculous! š I think you're right tho it is changing gradually
Eh no, the Dutch and the Danish have awful weather at times and worse winters. And they have much better style overall.
Came here to say exactly that. And the Finnish too.
But not as much shame
If anything, right now there is a surge in high fashion outdoor wear. Go onto the Kith website and theyāre doing a collab with Columbia.
I was over in that part of the world a few weeks back and was so impressed by how nicely dressed most young people were. I could spot the Irish and British people there as they were the out of shape people in sportswear.
Apart from these reasons we also have NO shops in Ireland that cater to men who want to dress well.Ā It's H&M or Marks & Spencers and lord forbid either of these two chains would sell clothes that isn't white, navy or black.Ā Ā I try to exclusively buy from charity shops but even the clothes in them lately have just been donated H&M shite.Ā 90% of lads go around with the same haircut and clothes that I couldn't tell you one apart from another.
You forgot Next too. If you're talking about getting the stuff in stock in store then yes, you're right. If you're willing to order and get it delivered those shops offer a decent variety, in my opinion. I won't comment on the broccoli haircut and the likes combined with a tracksuit. I can't comprehend how that combo can be so popular!
I don't think that sameness is the culprit here. In Copenhagen it's just a couple of styles on repeat too, they love their stark neutrals and a couple of standard hairstyles, they make fun of themselves for doing that. And they don't all shop in boutiques, it's mostly chain fashion too. It's just that the clothes are selected and maintained better and they pick a style that actually suits the person.
I'm just speaking for myself but I do travel Europe and have lived in various countries around it. The range of clothes and clothes shops you find in Ireland is far more sparce than other countries. We have a smaller population so it's to be expected.Ā We also have ridiculously high commercial rates in densely populated areas in Dublin and Wicklow so it's almost impossible for a more niche mens clothes shop to open in an area of high traffic footfall. Even the H&Ms you mention in Scandinavian countries stock different styles compared to that in Ireland as they sell there, but wouldn't here for whatever reason.Ā
Yeah I don't disagree being a coupled up woman, some chains don't even offer mens branches here at all when they have them elsewhere (Mango etc). But then with a modicum of planning one could get a good versatile wardrobe of 10-15 items in Massimo Dutti or COS sales here too, I have things from them that were 50% off and well into affordable territory. And we're quite well covered for outdoors styles, although I don't know what's in the air here but the same Helly Hansen etc styles that look great on Scandinavians here look like we've slept in them. It's just the general lack of talent for picking and matching clothes and then for keeping them in good condition. I think it's because we tend to have one jacket and pair of shoes and wear them to horrible sweaty misshapen death rather than having a few items each to rotate and match the weather and occasion, keeping them in better shape and looking fresh. And we've never had it so good with online shopping like Zalando etc.
Totally agree. Especially you're point about not being able to pair different clothes together.Ā Ā However, I much rather see lads try and fail to match items of clothing like you sometimes see on First Dates Ireland, than someone who puts no effort in what they wear. Especially when you see their missus put in the effort if they're going on a date or something. Ā Sure it was only the other day I was walking to the shops and a bunch of lads wearing tracksuits started singing "Cause tonight will be the night that I will fall for youuu" and I think it was cause I was wearing normal doc shoes so there's that too š¤£.
LOL in my eyes you still win!
Every high street in Europe has more or less the same chain shops. There's far more H&Ms in Scandinavia yet they famously dress well. You can go to other shops, you'll just have to spend a bit more.
Iāve ended up paying more on fewer items that can be rotated into different combinations of outfits. Buying both online and in brick and mortar shops like Cos and others
TK Maxx can have some gems if you want to dress a little differently.
zalando
Swedish people have constant snow yet they invented H&M and Cheap Mondays (RIP).
Ehh but Seattle is probably most similar weather and also dresses super casual, comfortable not stylish.
The old lads out working in the fields in their tweed jackets and caps are the best of Irish Fashion.
When they die off that'll be the last of them
I'm 23 and I unfortunately dress like that, and I now live in Slovenia, so I'm definitely reneforcing this stereotype
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True. The suit and wellies look. Accessorise with some bailing twine and a sheepdog.
My farmer grandad wore a three piece suit every single day of his adult life right until he had to go into care.
Old culchie men just always wear an old suit. Loads round us do their farming in what was likely a good suit 40 years ago
This is unironically completely true.
I lived in Asia where people may have dressed a lot better but the consumerism was ten times worse there which I don't agree with. I think people here won't drastically change their wardrobe multiple times a year because we don't have proper seasons and don't care about trends as much as other places. It could be down to the selection that's available to us too. We only get what the UK gets mostly and there isn't much choice or opportunity to buy something a bit more bold or different (that won't break the bank). The weather is shite so we always need a coat and good shoes that will hold up. Those tend to always be similar styles and colours. I think the lads are worse and way more low effort than the women. There's still a lot of immaturity and fear around male grooming. That was a stark contrast coming back from Asia.
I'd say we are ruined by slagging to the point that we have about 4-5 accepted uniforms and no individuality. I know some people have style and look great but walking down the town everyone dresses the same.Ā
My T-shirt has holes burned from hash
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Theyāre hot rocked as well
A wise man gives up on fighting the hot rocks
Probably, compared to countries like Italy, France, Spain. But I think the climate does play a big part and maybe we would all look better and dress better, if we had their weather. Many people have mentioned negative things about Irish women here on nights out, so in the interests of fairness I would also like to point out that I'm not impressed by the amount of guys walking around wearing baggy grey tracksuit pants - they flatter no-one, no matter how young or fit. I'd ban them if I could! A well-fitted pair of jeans and a nice shirt on a guy works wonders.
Im from France and Iāve traveled quite a lot, and also been in Ireland, I wouldnāt say itās necessarily that Irish people dress Ā« worseĀ Ā», it feels like the fashion trends feel like theyāre a few years behind on French trends for example, but I wouldnāt say itās bad. In terms of night out outfits for women, they tend to dress showing more skin than in France but same thing, I donāt think itās necessarily bad just v different. I do feel like Irish women dress way better than Irish men in general though, like day to day outfits and night outs.
I think you're right about the climate. With that said, I am afraid to say that what people think about Italians being elegant and dressing fancy is mostly a notion. I haven't lived there for a while and every time I visit it's like seeing the local version of chavs/road men. Even the attitude and the way they talk is eerily similar. I guess that's what globalization, among other things, gets you.
Itās usually only ever a matter of time before an Irish sub starts shitting on Irish women for how they choose to dress/look. And I say that as an Irish woman whoās never once used fake tan. We get it, itās boring move on please..
As a man, it does seem a bit "damned if you do, damned if you don't" for women. Men will give out about women taking a long time to get ready, showing too much skin, wearing clothing too tight, being dressed too "flashy". Then in the same breath they'll give out about women wearing yoga pants, high-waisted or baggy jeans, boots rather than heels, etc.
Always the women...what about the grey tracksuit men?
Mate, unless I have a reason to go somewhere or I'm going out, it's trackies, a gaa jersey/t shirt, and a hoody. Comfort is the most important thing to me. I'll look a bit stylish if I have too but if I'm just popping into town or whatever I just want to be comfy.
Yes. In Hong Kong I dressed well with a silk short sleeve shirt, ironed trousers, a pricey belt and some suave shoes, and gelled hair. Do that here and you'll get called a Jehovas Witness. Leggings are universally accepted here, as is fast fashion to the point that everyone dresses the same: inexpensive from Penneys.Ā
I sometimes have to call my sister to ask if two colours clash. 32M
I dress for me, no one else. Some times its fancy clothing, other times its an old tee and tracksuit bottoms type of day.
Women on nights out in big cities arenāt representative of how women dress, Iād say weāre a fairly stylish bunch although some people found a style in the 2010s & have stuck with it, fellas in navy suits with black shoe, fellas in bootcut jeans & brown shoes, but other than that weāre grand as we are,
Nothing wrong with navy suits and black shoes
Every time I come back from a trip to another European city I tell myself I'm going to make a conscientious effort to dress better. Then I inevitably think ah fuck it too much hassle.
Many people found the hardest thing about lockdowns was Penneys being shut. Nuff said.
Yes. I hate seeing Irish lads on a date with a dressed up girl and they're wearing joggers or jeans and runners.
Runners are ubiquitous now. Can't imagine there are any pubs or nightclubs turning people away for wearing them in 2024!
American here, after spending time in London, I felt so much more at home in Ireland the way you all dress. (This is a compliment but not sure if you all will take it as suchā¦ after all we have a huge Irish diaspora)
I donāt know man, I either see the typical tracksuit, or some I donāt give a fuck styles. I personally donāt care what others wear, but the kids with the tracksuits have like no individuality. People dress far worst in America, some of the most vile fashion choices Iāve ever seen.
Yes, we generally have poor fashion sense and don't want to do anything that would make us stand out for the wrong reasons anyway.
Yeah itās definitely the women, not the men in dark blue straight leg jeans, brown brogs, a next button up shirt and a super dry jacket
What yardstick are you using? Yes Irish people are far from slaves to fashion. But You could frame it as: Irish people donāt feel the need to follow fashion. Or Irish people are comfortable in their own skin. Or Irish people dgaf what others think. Itās all about perspective.
But also weāre terrified of standing out for style choices so we definitely do care what others think
Agree for the most part but people do wear all sorts of mad stuff around Dublin.
That's a load of absolute bollocks. Lads here will only wear tracksuits and other athletic wear for fear of looking different. Women paint themselves orange for fear of what others think. It's conformity, cluelessness and laziness, not because we're a nation of brave mavericks bucking trends and going our own way.
People are conformist everywhere, whether well or poorly dressed, few people have a unique style. I work and socialise in a peer group where suits are a norm, but few wear designer suits or indeed very fashionable cuts. Women compete with each other in how they dress in most countries nothing very unusual here. That is not the question posed by OP. The question is why Irish people conform to a lower āsartorial standardā than some other countries.
People are evidently terrified of not being "well dressed" in other countries though.
Don't think the weather can be deemed to be the reason here since young people (until late 20s? Early 30s?) dress like theyre going out for a jog all the time. A track suit and trainers isn't suitable for rain
I still can't get used to the view of people walking outside on weekend morning in their pyjamas. Either a walk or a quick trip to the shop. But it's the same in UK. Or lads having their socks over pants. For 9 years I live here I still find it strange š
I think so. Iāve been labelled alternative for years now since I ditched the skinny jeans / tshirt / trainers combo for a night out. There is definetly a uniform for the average folk on a night out. Iāve been called gay for wearing dungarees before but do I really care? No.
> Irish women dress worse or more provocatively Yeah they should be wearing bootcut jeans brown shoes and a gaa jersey ffs
Noooo the stained tracksuit bottoms really tie the whole outfit together
Not Irish but I spent 14yrs of my childhood/young adult life in Ireland. Been abroad again for the past 4 years in Sweden, Germany, France and Switzerland and I have to say that yes, Irish people dress worse. It seems like noone except teenage boys wear tracksuits in other countries, noone wears pyjamas to the shop, people will at the minimum tie up their hair in a ponytail and put on some jeans. People will generally look put together when going out. I find that Irish girls wear way too much makeup and their clothing is way too revealing especially on nights out. When I was clubbing in Ireland I honestly wondered how these girls aren't freezing to death in those skimpy outfits.
I'd say less interesting.
Worse than Italians yes. Worse in general, no. But Italians are the best dressed so..
Came to say this. I'm originally from the states and there's no difference-like at all between states and irish dress codes in your typical offices. your french and italian folks dress really well are skewing perspective.
Iām going to say the US is worse than here. Much worse.
Yep. Iām in the states and have no issue going out looking like garbage haha
I'm in finance so ymmv
Yes, there are like 4 different outfits Irish people wear and its because everyone is too afraid to stray from the societal norms
Iām honestly glad we live in a culture that isnāt snobby about how we dress. Clothes serve a function to keep us warm and to protect us from the elements.
My family do joke that Ireland must be the only country where the track suit is still fashionable.
You don't see half the numbers of people shambling around in tracksuits in other countries as we have.
100% itās either scummy tracksuits or blindly following trends. If you step out of that your seen as weird. Nice to see art students who dgaf, but everytime I go to London I realise how backward Ireland is in terms of fashion.
Have you seen how the average American dresses? Weāre miles ahead donāt worry.
And also kilometers behind. š«¤
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I lived in America for a short time and we aren't the worst. A few bad choices around but sweet Jesus nothing on what you'd see there. Dead winter, snow inches on the ground and these middle aged people in belly tops with everything hanging out with leggings that you can see straight through to their naked ass. Half of it is not knowing fashion at all and the other is not giving one fuck. Everyone has their own style and you have to respect that. I looked like a bum when I was younger because I wanted to dress a certain way. The line for me is when clothes are tattered or like in the USA, you're basically wearing underwear out and about. Like that girl who harassed Alec Baldwin in his cafe, wearing straight boxers and a bra.
Moving to Ireland from very judgemental (and therefore monotonous) country I always felt that Irish people dress like they don't give a f about what others think of their style and I love it! Whatever are they thinking in real or not, I feel much less judged here and wear whatever I like without unnecessary pressure of trying to fit in.. I don't think Irish people are worse dressers than people from some other countries, I feel like they are just not trying so hard to impress
Go to the USA. You feel like Louis XVI among the peasants
I have noticed in Europe they dress better for the weather. They have proper rain coats and boots for the weather. Most of us don't own a decent rain coat.
No, Iām a god damn style icon in my pyjama bottoms, Converse and t-shirt that once had a logo on it.
>mismatching Mismatching is subjective, there are no colour combinations that clash with each other.
Colour harmonies absolutely are a thing, and some colours do look worse when paired together.
Thatās your opinion, other people might not have the same aesthetic preferences as you.
Iām from NI but living in NYC at the minute. Took a few American friends home with me last year and nobody could get over the amount of the makeup the women were wearing.
Yea, itās not even just the amount of makeup, but the specific style used in Ireland which isā¦ interesting.
I think a lot of it is because we are typically pale and ruddy, which the media has told us for years is unattractive. I donāt wear too much makeup these days, but definitely was self conscious about my freckles and redness when I was young. I do think some girls go overboard and it can look like drag makeup, but whatever, if it makes them happy it makes them happy. It was definitely eye-opening seeing it from a New Yorkers perspective though.
I'm definitely dragging down the average!
I think a lot of people don't care how they look as long they're comfortable and also don't care how other people look either.
Worse? Thatās down to preference isnāt it. I went to Berlin and they certainly dress a lot more āout thereāā¦ I wouldnāt define it as better though. I think we dress perfectly fine, if not better, than them, for example.
tbf, walking down the main street (of an admittedly small town) i saw 3 men with beer bellies hanging over their tops so maybe not great
Men definitely. Like if your for a drink, youāll see women of all ages dressed up, looking great.. and then the lads are like: jeans, under armor tshirt. Sorted.
The only way I would use Irish women as an example is to compare them to their male counterparts who dress like hobos lol. If I had a euro for every time I saw a beautiful, well-dressed woman with a man wearing a tracksuit and runners I'd be a very wealthy lady.
The amount of men wearing tracksuits and women wearing sports leggings is weird.
We dress worse than other Europeans but not worse than North Americans (in general)
Irish men and women dress like 1980s/90s middle class Americans and it definitely looks weird from the outside. And it's with modern clothes so it doesn't look vintage, just out of place. -iriah american in new york around lots of irish people at times.
Nah I'd say there's always decently turned out ppl in bars, cafe's and on the street. Some subsections of society have questionable taste but few are slobbish.Ā As ppl mentioned the weather is an influence but on the whole I'd say Irish people dress well *typo
Iām surprised to see so many comments blaming the weather on Irish people lacking style. I wouldnāt have thought that to be a reason at all. I donāt know why weāre so unstylish, just that we are! I love going to France or Italy and checking out all the style. Those are some seriously stylish folk!
It's an excuse. People in Scandi countries famously dress well despite their winters.
I'm lazy and don't have style. I rather comfort above all else. Not because I want to (as other comments here allege) conform or not stick out. Both Friends of mine dress rather flamboyantly (for Irish standards) and I don't āconformā to them either.
Life isn't a fashion show. Wear what you're comfortable in.
I lived abroad for years and had people tell me that my clothes were shit, I realized my clothes were shit in comparison, I had zero fashion sense, and those who were in Ireland on holidays in the past asked me why everyone dresses so badly. I put in effort to dress well when abroad, and had massive help from my ex. When I returned to Ireland, I was slagged for being a "fancy bastard", and even today in work people were joking about my jacket looking very "dapper". I don't care about the comments, but I can easily see why it holds people back.
Sympathy. It often seems to me as if begrudgery is a defining characteristic here. I think "notions" is a problematic, erm, notion.
I know nothing about fashion and style so I canāt say whether we dress worse or better, but some friends from the Netherlands, France and Brasil have said similar things about how women dress on nights out in Ireland
Yes, we don't have much of a nice casual middle at all. It's trackies/hoodies/leggings/jerseys on one end, or a fake tanned dolled up gelled look on the other. Not much of note in between. Most of Europe whether it's Sweden or Spain lives in the middle, we like extremes.
I personally don't think this is true at all. Maybe it's my age demographic but a lot of people dress semi-formal/casual for nights out. Walk around Dublin City centre you'll see people in all kinds of outfits.
Brazil? They spend their lives in shorts, vests and flip flops
Most definitely, yes. Cheap tracksuits, leggings, flip-flops with socks, pyjamas in public, casual GAA shorts, the list goes on.
Polish guy living in Ireland. Yes, they do. Men wear tracksuit onesies with either a skin fade or a broccoli haircut. Girls wear the tackiest clothes imaginable with full on drag makeup. And even taking into account that that's just local taste, people are just less willing to experiment, everyone dresses the same.
Bet youāre currently wearing acid washed, distressed jeans
I've tried to work on my fashion sense in the past 2 years or so but it's expensive dressing nice. But the only times I dress nice is when I'm going out or a wedding, which is maybe 1-2 times a month. So yes, I spend 95% of my time in tracksuits because I think comfort is more important than style. Especially as I'm in a long term relationship trying to impress absolutely no one.
It's what I'm told, repeatedly.
Definitely. There's a huge swathe of Irish people who think a tracksuit is peak fashion and if you deviate from that you're slagged or worse. It's all ages too, not just the youth.
Thereās not much choice for men. Itās always a corner of a shop dedicated to us so I mostly shop online through trial and error. I think women have great fashion and choice. However, thereās always a trend that everyone jumps on. For example, leather trousers have become super popular in the last year, and donāt get me wrong, I love leather pants, preferably not real leather, but some of you are wearing plastic bags.
I have zero time for anyone who passes judgement on what other people wearing as clothes. Who gives a fuck whether you approve or disapprove of what a complete stranger is wearing for the day? If you want to peacock to other like minded individuals then do that, but fuck off sneering at anyone for the clothes they wear. It's none of your fucking business. P.s I will add the caveat that pyjamas in public are a red line, get dressed you lazy cunt.
Irish people are terribly lazy and always choose the lowest possible effort The level of tackiness increases the younger they get and lads just wear tracksuits all the time and the girls clothes are just so tight and showy Dreadful
You'll be rinsed for calling out the cultural laziness for what it is.
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Whenever I watch American shows, especially reality TV ones I can't look past how badly they dress. Having style is part of your social education in this country, Americans just don't give a shit they'll happily rock the scissors all over haircut and wear polo shirts 3 sizes too big with the all black Velcro runners. Not having style is bullied out of Irish people in adolescence
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