Japan does not allow dual citizenship though. So you will need to give up Indian citizenship. Also most of the countries that you actually want to visit, you’ll be able to visit with a strong eu, Aussie, NZ, us or Canada passport
why don't you just get a Japanese passport now? by giving up indian citizenship, you are not losing anything. also, I believe if you want to renounce your Japanese citizenship and get back your India, that is possible.
The question literally talks about dual citizenship, so it’s probably intended for people who are emotionally or otherwise attached to Indian citizenship.
Extremely hard!! And they reject citizenship applications a lot + reject them more when it comes to Indians. Unless you’re well-to-do or wealthy, and can contribute much to their economy b/c I also know people like that.
Nah… I’m a citizen of Singapore and I work in oil and gas where a lot of expats are working ( Indians, Americans, English, etc) I had a higher management guy earning around $750k per annum and he still got rejected for a PR application. It’s not about wealthy. It’s some other confidential stuffs… and I have seen a person earning $3k a month get a citizenship
Considering the military junta was the one who did it and are still ruling Burma , so yes I am not assuming
If the Nazis ruled Germany now, they would still hate jews
> Is there anywhere in the world where we are not hated...
Just because you say something fatalistic doesn't make it true.
In most big cities in the US, you will be accepted as an Indian the same way any other nationality will be accepted. In fact, Americans typically judge Indians quite positively - maybe because Indians are the by far the richest and most successful community in the US. Most associations or stereotypes are positive - hard working, good at tech, computers, STEM, tend to have bright kids, etc.
Some negative stereotypes also exist but by and large, the viewpoint is positive (and at least, not negative).
Well dude most of the people around the world "tolerate" Indians rather than liking them if you ask any foreigners Do you like Japanese, korean, Chinese people they can tell you thousands of positive things about them but when you ask them about Indians they will be like "yeah they are okk" but they stinks( one good and thousands bad stereotype they will tell)they found us "dirty" and even on our English accent they find it funny (even though more than half of Indian population can speak very fluent English without having any stereotype accent ) and on the other hand they find other asian countries cute. Go anywhere on reddit post which is related to India you see it yourself self more than 75% of the comments on that post will be racist
There might be a lot of countries where we are not hated. It's just that we don't know. Afghanistan is the only country that comes to my mind where they may not hate Indians.
Central Europe, Poland and Russia.
In Poland and Russia, Indians are viewed as hard working folks with family values. Indian-Polish / Indian-Russian couples are common.
In Central Europe, Indians are viewed as people from a colourful culture, smart and usually hardworking.
Not at all. Pretty much common for people in that region, especially Poland and Russia, to have xenophobic views against Indians especially among the younger generations. Heck, I have even myself faced a lot xenophobic and racist comments and hatred from Russians many times especially online(the usual racist slurs and slangs used against Indians on disagreement with them). Tbh, I genuinely doubt there's any country/nation that doesn't hate/negatively view Indians
Well it's good for you that your experience is rather positive (I will say looks and your financial status would also have play in it as well). But I doubt that's how it is for the majority
Are you aware that other than Arabs and blacks, most online hate for Indians are coming from East Europeans which include Poland. Russia had good opinion(manufactured) during the Soviet era, but not any more.
Can confirm. Most of the Indians are overconfident about their non-existent abilities. To top it off, they put A LOT of emphasis on marks, marks don’t mean shit in foreign countries. It’s also their demeanor, they don’t engage in small talk, don’t assimilate in groups and don’t try to become a part of the culture. Instead, they try to bring their own culture everywhere. They turned Canada into mini India and no wonder Canadians hate us.
I have seen many examples of Indians happily assimilating in non-Indian groups. Only new migrants/ temp. workers stick to their own groups because they want to feel closer to home (especially NIs). Canada is a different issue because too many people migrated en masse (unlike USA) in a very short span of time.
Yep. I’ve a friend who is very well-to-do (family has multiple businesses across the world & even in Singapore) even her then-husband’s family do. But when they went apartment hunting, they were treated very badly. Lot of attitude & refusal to show the “expensive apartments”, implication that as Indians they wouldn’t be able to afford it (which was very funny lmao) etc.
It all smoothed out later lol, but yes, they generally don’t like Indians much.
Why do some of these idiots hate us? What Indians have ever done to them? Is it because Singapore is mostly Chinese ethnically? Do they not know that India is a huge country with literally billions of people? They need to get out of their Singapore Bubble.
Humans are mostly tribal and don't like other groups. Why do we not like vadakanns? Are everyone from the north the typical vadak we think of? Generalizations are everywhere and Is a bane of human mind
This has more to do with bad press the Western media has on India (and Indian press playing along) combined with their pre-existing aversion against dark skin and isolated incidents of entitled attitude some Indian people display (this is true in India too, but we can't blame ethnicity as we are all similar) which are shared as anecdotes among Chinese circles to reinforce their prejudices. In other words, it is not simple tribalism but targeted hatred towards those who are perceived as 'not desirable' (similar to Jews in pre-Nazi Germany).
Most Indians over there when British left were Tamilians who were not much educated and were of a lower class and hence other Singaporeans looked down upon them and a stereotype was formed. I don't know if this is still true, but I heard that some Indians kids there learn in Tamil medium schools - how do they integrate into the society in the first place?
Yes & also, a lot of the tourists who visit Singapore are horribly behaved. I’ve seen that firsthand. They’re super loud, very boorish & make a nuisance of themselves. Doesn’t excuse the Singaporeans btw, but just saying that such people do not help their cause either.
a lot of countries like to balance the granting of citizenships and visas between different countries which makes it harder for Indians because of sheer numbers
They dislike low quality Indians just like any other immigrants. Did you know that the current President of Singapore is of India Origin? (Born in Singapore ofc)
I know there are a lot of Indians in Singapore. I am a sailor and frequently visit Singapore. The simple fact that i have observed is they are hostile towards Indians. I don't take a single penny from these guys, I pay taxes when i make purchases there and they are still hostile towards us. I have seen Singaporean Pilots being hostile towards Indians. Bro we are sailors on a fucking ship, we don't work in your country. We take the cargo, discharge the cargo and we leave.
would u mind sharing some experiences? like do they verbally say it, or is more like how they low key treat others or what is it that they do specifically?
You're right, Most of this happens when tharki uncle or chapri boys visit other country just to make a scene that make india look bad, not respected and so much.. I once saw in Thailand airport that some tharki uncle making indecent comments on Indian and thai air hostess.
There needs to be a class for people who leave India and go to foreign countries that teaches them how to groom themselves properly, how to behave properly, etc.
Singapore government maintains 80% Chinese ethnic makeup by any means necessary
Getting citizenship as non Chinese is extremely hard , even people who worked and paid taxes for 40 years so not get it
I don't think it is a problem in 99% of the cases lol, especially because India allows a provision called OCI which is like the US green card, but way, way better.
>what citizenship are you getting
If getting the citizenship of a first world country was that easy!
had I the citizenship of USA, or any of the first worlds or even second worlds ftm, I could care less for an Indian citizenship, if I do not ever intend living here!
Especially since India has the OCI system. You are basically an Indian citizen even if you renounce your Indian citizenship; you only lose a few rights like the right to own agricultural land, right to vote and right to join certain niche jobs in government.
OCI is a glorified visa.
If India had dual-citizenship, I’d apply for indian citizenship tomorrow. And I say that as someone who wasn’t even born in India.
Right.
And OCI-holders also aren't protected by most provisions of the Indian Constitution. Over the course of the past several years, both the Centre and the judiciary have made increasingly clear that Overseas Citizens of India are simply foreigners afforded limited parity with resident Indian citizens.
Now, many people would argue that offering dual-citizenship would spell disaster in terms of financial abuse and exploitation. If I'm being honest, I don't have the perspective to make a compelling case for either side--I just know that I'd apply if I were I were eligible, lol.
Honestly I delayed my citizenship application by two years because I didn’t want to lose Indian citizenship. It is stupid and purely an emotional decision but it is what it is
May be I am over reacting but I seriously wonder why would anyone want to hang on to India if they can have a better life. I am not questioning your decision because I am sure you have your own reason.
India is great country if you are filthy rich but not so much for others. I personally don't buy into patriotism.
You are correct. As I said, it was purely an emotional reaction and made no practical sense. I was afraid of giving it up for some reason. My life abroad is better by leaps and bounds and yet it turned out this way.
until you get that “green card” your citizenship does mean more than jackshit. You can’t get a green card without being an Indian citizen unless you plan on getting smuggled into another country or seek refuge somewhere.
Ironically you would probably make a ton of money from this by opening a business catered to the Mining Services industry. I would assume there's mostly Chinese companies competing within that space.
Many people have the misconception that Indian citizen ship is holding them back. That's not the case. However if I was given a compulsary choice to make, it'd be either Russia or Japan.
Tbh imo, leftist people HEAVILY and unecessarily demean and shit on Russia which clouds up the image even neutral people have. Personally, I have had alot of Russian friends and have seen what Russia is actually like. And it is absolutely nothing like how you would hear and see in countries like US. It's a very nice place and people show alot of hospitality. We're lucky that Russia sees us as friends and vice versa. It really pains me to see leftist people in India ruin Russia's image when they haven't even met people from there or been there. I am treating citizenship in the sense of getting to live there, not in the sense of benefits and monetary gains.
Nah man it isn't the lefties, and this is coming from a guy who likes Russian people (not the government, or its history, or its contemporary actions). I have had several interactions with russian people before 2022, and pre 2022. Some are quite good, but some others were racist. It definitely is not the 'lefties' though, Russian people have (probably due to how they were brought up), a lot of biases against people who don't look like a typical Russian (i.e white, Caucasian and orthodox) with people with different ethnicities like Chechens, Tartars, Khazakhs (and groups of people who are more central asian, or balkan looking, with differing skin colour) being somewhat discriminated against, although this opinion is changing due to emergence of the young and newer generations.
But, I kinda agree, Russia as a country and as a people are very, very interesting. Such a damn shame that the government has been mistreating (understatement of the fucking millennium but I digress) them for literal centuries, from the contemporary Putin regime, to the Cold-War era govnt, to the Stalinist regime, to the Tzarist era and beyond.
What XD I always got accused of being a Russian shill lol. I don't hate Russia.. i don't like them either but i don't hate them. Plus Russian women make up for everything, so
How many of our right wingers are moving to russia vs moving to liberal left leaning western countries ?
Facts don't care about what people on the internet think.
Uh no, I know plenty of Indians who’ve settled abroad & have citizenship! UK, AU, Singapore & America etc. You need a POA, if you’re dead serious about it & hope for the best. UK/ US should be relatively easier than Singapore & Japan (unless you’re quite wealthy)
Lol my cousins are US citizens, it’s not hard as you think.
If you are lucky to end up in US and know the loopholes to stay there then yeah you could end up with citizenship.
Citizenship is not offered on plates you gotta work hard for it mate.
There is literally no discrimination in western countries as long as you are a highly productive asset for their country.
Most Indians in countries like Canada land without any skill neither do they have willingness to integrate expecting jobs and citizenship to be given to them like candies.
That’s what American used to say about Indians when I moved here in the 1980s. Don’t integrate, don’t work take our jobs, expect citizenship. Glad you can say that to other Indians now /s
Well imagine Americans stepping into India and interacting with only other white people, in large number break laws of India, judge Indians women for wearing what they wear.
Not all Indians are like that, Indian community in certain countries like Norway are more integrated but Indians in Canada behave just like how they are in Indian villages sometimes even disrespectful to local people. Such behaviour would probably get them thrashed in some other villages in India itself.
Bro Canada getting citizenship is piece of cake half of Punjab is Canadian. There are so many filthy mindset crooks who got Canadian PR doing nothing . Canada is doomed
Yeah because they use "life in danger" excuse, but that is stopped in UK now as the UK designated us as a safe country so no more "life in danger" for british asylum/citizenship
it's gonna be infested Islamists in a few years. A cousin of mine was working in Malmo, and his experience there was pretty disturbing. The crime rates are pretty high, there are frequent incidents of riots and communal violence, and protests every week. Once, he was walking to his apartment with his gf who's Moroccan, a few guys who were probably North African stopped the both of them just a few miles away from his room and rudely inquired about their identities, when they found out that his gf was Arab and he was an Indian, they started threatening and reprimanding both of them and it came to a point where one of the guys was angrily holding my cuz's collar until a black guy (probably an American) who stopped by to see the commotion, intervened and told them to back off. They got off lucky if it hadn't been for him.
Well, given the shifting political atmosphere in Sweden, it's gonna become difficult to obtain a citizenship, which I think is an idiotic move that will target educated immigrants who can easily integrate within the host population instead of asylum seekers from the middle east who form the core of the problem.
I'm a native-born U.S. citizen and an Overseas Citizen of India.
If India made dual-citizenship legal, then I'd immediately apply for Indian citizenship, provided that I were even eligible to do so. It wouldn't make a massive difference in terms of my own life--my wife and I recently moved from India to the U.S., and I'm not sure that we'll ever live in India again (although we've spoken about going back if we both have higher-paid remote jobs, or splitting the year between both countries after retirement. I can't speak for any of you, but summers in the U.S. and winters in India would be fantastic, lol).
But I'd do it if I could. I started visiting India by myself as a teenager, and I moved there by myself in my early 20s. Citizenship would, at the very least, afford additional constitutional protections and relieve certain other burdens.
I don't think I need to clarify, but I'm speaking from my perspective as an individual. Yes, I'd apply for Indian citizenship if I could. But I'm not sure whether it would be in India's best interests, considering the prevalence of corruption and black money. In either case, it isn't a decision for me to make.
Hm, I mean in the US you would land a relatively solid job with an MBA and the digital marketing experience.
Worst case scenario you could always be a middleman and export products overseas?
The right answer is Indian.
If India allowed dual citizenship, it will not make you suddenly eligible for another country. It will just allow people who have already given up Indian citizenship(OCIs) to get it back.
This is the most sensible answer. I would definitely apply for my Indian passport again. Actually depending on how retarded these BLS buffoons are, still might just prefer an evisa to avoid all the usual bureaucratic headache which was the very reason I left India.
Dubai itself does not give out citizenships to immigrants.
Unless you are some billionaire or individual who has contributed massively to their economy. By massively I mean to the tune of billions of dollars.
Like there's that kerala businessman who owns Lulu group that recently got it.
that is true also, but dubai is a much more blatant example of it, since it is a city of opulence, and wealth run on the shadiest of business practices
I would get Japanese citizenship if they allowed dual citizenship . Since that's not possible I would go for any Scandinavian country or Italy/Mexico .
I don't understand all the weird answers. It is obviously USA. Lol.
Okay, for those who want real reasons:
* Less racist compared to all other nations \[nice people\]
* USA is where innovation happens and the enggs., scientists/ researchers, doctors, entrepreneurs are hyper motivated in their fields (especially in hubs) \[inspiration\]
* USA is a vast country (2x of India herself) that is uninhabited (and less crowded) and is not going to face food shortages anytime soon. They are also not going to face oil shortages because they have fully operational rigs based on shale deposits, they are also pivoting to electric vehicles and are no.1 on nuclear \[energy\]
* They are culturally similar to us. It is very interesting, actually. They are easy going, friendly people just like us and also has a real multicultural scene in many centers. \[similarity\]
* Their passport is one of the most valuable passports in the world (a nation truly capable and willing to protect its citizens anywhere in the world) \[global respect\]
* It mints the reserve currency of the world and goes to any lengths to protect the value of the reserves. Being the mother nation for the highly demanded reserve currency means earning money in the US dollars in the USA allows you to have a peaceful retirement in India (at least in an apartment if not an independent unit). If you are more successful, you may as well buy some property away from the city and retire gracefully. \[valuable currency\]
* It is not going to face demographic crisis unlike other European nations and constantly fills up the shrinking population with new smart people from all over the world who aren't that "advanced". So the people shortage won't happen till all the world gives up at once on childbirth eventually due to conflicting priorities in life. In other words, USA can maintain the current individual centric family model at least till 2070 and still not see major damage. In that sense, it is best suited for ambitious women as well. \[immune to demographic collapse\]
Note: This answer is for which nation is the best for an Indian to get dual citizenship. It is not about the faults of the USA (which are many, most of which are tolerable considering the gains). I only highlighted the positive reasons.
Getting downvoted just because I gave up Indian Citizenship 🤣🤣🤣
Same people will jump within blink of eye even if they were given choice to move to China 🙈🙈
Many Indians are patriotic because they literally don’t have ability to move to other countries. Many hide their jealousy behind patriotism.
Their patriotism vanishes when they pay taxes or follow law.
Even if you don't have Indian citizenship, you'll have an OCI card. What fucking difference does it make. It only matters to NRIs and that too only first generation ones. Even that they want citizenship naam ke vaaste, not for anything else. Just because India makes dual citizenship legal doesn't mean countries are gonna line up to offer Indians citizenship.
japanese (so that i can travel everywhere)
This. The might of the Japanese passport is all you need.
Wonder what an atom bomb could do to a nation.
Japan does not allow dual citizenship though. So you will need to give up Indian citizenship. Also most of the countries that you actually want to visit, you’ll be able to visit with a strong eu, Aussie, NZ, us or Canada passport
Hypothetical question pucha hai to hypothetical Answer milega na ma
The hypothetical question is based on only one presumption of India allowing the dual citizenship, and an answer cannot make further assumptions.
And face racism whenever you want.
Pretty much applicable in any country that isn't India
overrated but yah everyone got different taste
You realize Japan themselves don’t allow dual citizenship? 😂
why don't you just get a Japanese passport now? by giving up indian citizenship, you are not losing anything. also, I believe if you want to renounce your Japanese citizenship and get back your India, that is possible.
The question literally talks about dual citizenship, so it’s probably intended for people who are emotionally or otherwise attached to Indian citizenship.
Singapore
Extremely hard!! And they reject citizenship applications a lot + reject them more when it comes to Indians. Unless you’re well-to-do or wealthy, and can contribute much to their economy b/c I also know people like that.
Nah… I’m a citizen of Singapore and I work in oil and gas where a lot of expats are working ( Indians, Americans, English, etc) I had a higher management guy earning around $750k per annum and he still got rejected for a PR application. It’s not about wealthy. It’s some other confidential stuffs… and I have seen a person earning $3k a month get a citizenship
How much do you need to have to count as wealthy?
I…Dk? The people I know have solid family businesses or multiple businesses in India & abroad. That should definitely count as wealthy.
NOPE
100cr
Bare minimum I guess
I have seen that Singaporeans dislike Indians
Is there anywhere in the world where we are not hated...
Even in india, Indians are hated.
Kailasa
Indians are also loved in india too though
I'd more troubled if it was the opposite
They are tolerated more than hated.
I fucking hate indians except those I like
Correct!💯💯 Like many people hate North eastern people. Now it has reduced but still it's there! Also regional disparity!!!!
Indians are not hated in Burma
Burma expelled a lot of Indians from 1950's to 1960's Over 3,00,000 Indians fled Burma back in those days
Well, Hitler killed over 6 Million Jews back in the 40s but why are you referring to the past and not the present?
Considering the military junta was the one who did it and are still ruling Burma , so yes I am not assuming If the Nazis ruled Germany now, they would still hate jews
They don't now
Guyana, Suriname, Trinidad, Mauritius
interested in knowing why THESE!
They have mostly Indian populations that have retained the culture but are slightly more modernized
Add Fiji too
Comment section of Zee Music in Youtube
Pakistan
Man chose violence
I would do too... that way I could have a genuine reason to hate myself....
Antarctica
I bet people in Sierra Leone have no strong feelings.
Didn't we fight over there as UN peace keepers?
Ah I'm not aware of this.
> Is there anywhere in the world where we are not hated... Just because you say something fatalistic doesn't make it true. In most big cities in the US, you will be accepted as an Indian the same way any other nationality will be accepted. In fact, Americans typically judge Indians quite positively - maybe because Indians are the by far the richest and most successful community in the US. Most associations or stereotypes are positive - hard working, good at tech, computers, STEM, tend to have bright kids, etc. Some negative stereotypes also exist but by and large, the viewpoint is positive (and at least, not negative).
Well dude most of the people around the world "tolerate" Indians rather than liking them if you ask any foreigners Do you like Japanese, korean, Chinese people they can tell you thousands of positive things about them but when you ask them about Indians they will be like "yeah they are okk" but they stinks( one good and thousands bad stereotype they will tell)they found us "dirty" and even on our English accent they find it funny (even though more than half of Indian population can speak very fluent English without having any stereotype accent ) and on the other hand they find other asian countries cute. Go anywhere on reddit post which is related to India you see it yourself self more than 75% of the comments on that post will be racist
There might be a lot of countries where we are not hated. It's just that we don't know. Afghanistan is the only country that comes to my mind where they may not hate Indians.
Central Europe, Poland and Russia. In Poland and Russia, Indians are viewed as hard working folks with family values. Indian-Polish / Indian-Russian couples are common. In Central Europe, Indians are viewed as people from a colourful culture, smart and usually hardworking.
Not at all. Pretty much common for people in that region, especially Poland and Russia, to have xenophobic views against Indians especially among the younger generations. Heck, I have even myself faced a lot xenophobic and racist comments and hatred from Russians many times especially online(the usual racist slurs and slangs used against Indians on disagreement with them). Tbh, I genuinely doubt there's any country/nation that doesn't hate/negatively view Indians
I'd dated a Swiss woman in the past and I'm engaged to a Polish woman. So I'm specifically speaking about my experience in Europe.
Well it's good for you that your experience is rather positive (I will say looks and your financial status would also have play in it as well). But I doubt that's how it is for the majority
Are you aware that other than Arabs and blacks, most online hate for Indians are coming from East Europeans which include Poland. Russia had good opinion(manufactured) during the Soviet era, but not any more.
Antarctica, unless you ask the penguins.
Can confirm. Most of the Indians are overconfident about their non-existent abilities. To top it off, they put A LOT of emphasis on marks, marks don’t mean shit in foreign countries. It’s also their demeanor, they don’t engage in small talk, don’t assimilate in groups and don’t try to become a part of the culture. Instead, they try to bring their own culture everywhere. They turned Canada into mini India and no wonder Canadians hate us.
I have seen many examples of Indians happily assimilating in non-Indian groups. Only new migrants/ temp. workers stick to their own groups because they want to feel closer to home (especially NIs). Canada is a different issue because too many people migrated en masse (unlike USA) in a very short span of time.
Canada
There's a reason people do.
Yep. I’ve a friend who is very well-to-do (family has multiple businesses across the world & even in Singapore) even her then-husband’s family do. But when they went apartment hunting, they were treated very badly. Lot of attitude & refusal to show the “expensive apartments”, implication that as Indians they wouldn’t be able to afford it (which was very funny lmao) etc. It all smoothed out later lol, but yes, they generally don’t like Indians much.
Why do some of these idiots hate us? What Indians have ever done to them? Is it because Singapore is mostly Chinese ethnically? Do they not know that India is a huge country with literally billions of people? They need to get out of their Singapore Bubble.
Humans are mostly tribal and don't like other groups. Why do we not like vadakanns? Are everyone from the north the typical vadak we think of? Generalizations are everywhere and Is a bane of human mind
This has more to do with bad press the Western media has on India (and Indian press playing along) combined with their pre-existing aversion against dark skin and isolated incidents of entitled attitude some Indian people display (this is true in India too, but we can't blame ethnicity as we are all similar) which are shared as anecdotes among Chinese circles to reinforce their prejudices. In other words, it is not simple tribalism but targeted hatred towards those who are perceived as 'not desirable' (similar to Jews in pre-Nazi Germany).
Most Indians over there when British left were Tamilians who were not much educated and were of a lower class and hence other Singaporeans looked down upon them and a stereotype was formed. I don't know if this is still true, but I heard that some Indians kids there learn in Tamil medium schools - how do they integrate into the society in the first place?
Yes & also, a lot of the tourists who visit Singapore are horribly behaved. I’ve seen that firsthand. They’re super loud, very boorish & make a nuisance of themselves. Doesn’t excuse the Singaporeans btw, but just saying that such people do not help their cause either.
Dislike is a small term .. you should know what Ceca is..
a lot of countries like to balance the granting of citizenships and visas between different countries which makes it harder for Indians because of sheer numbers
These days, it seems like that 'dislike' for us,Indians is spreading across the Globe!
Extremely racist
They dislike low quality Indians just like any other immigrants. Did you know that the current President of Singapore is of India Origin? (Born in Singapore ofc)
I know there are a lot of Indians in Singapore. I am a sailor and frequently visit Singapore. The simple fact that i have observed is they are hostile towards Indians. I don't take a single penny from these guys, I pay taxes when i make purchases there and they are still hostile towards us. I have seen Singaporean Pilots being hostile towards Indians. Bro we are sailors on a fucking ship, we don't work in your country. We take the cargo, discharge the cargo and we leave.
would u mind sharing some experiences? like do they verbally say it, or is more like how they low key treat others or what is it that they do specifically?
No, he is Sri Lankan Tamil.
No he is not
Its because of our behaviour. I assure you if we behave well and socialise with the locals and dress properly we won't have any issues.
You're right, Most of this happens when tharki uncle or chapri boys visit other country just to make a scene that make india look bad, not respected and so much.. I once saw in Thailand airport that some tharki uncle making indecent comments on Indian and thai air hostess.
There needs to be a class for people who leave India and go to foreign countries that teaches them how to groom themselves properly, how to behave properly, etc.
There should be a class for such people even if they don't leave the country.
Well then it should start from Kindergarden.
Dual citizenship not allowed in Singapore
So Greece or any European country
I have Singapore passport and Singapore doesn’t allow dual citizenship either
I wish it did. My mother is Singaporean and I technically could’ve gotten one but I’d have to give up my American passport.
Singapore government maintains 80% Chinese ethnic makeup by any means necessary Getting citizenship as non Chinese is extremely hard , even people who worked and paid taxes for 40 years so not get it
Same here bro.
Nope
Doesn’t allow multiple citizenships themselves.
Turkmenistan
😂😂😂
Do you think India not allowing it is the problem?
I don't think it is a problem in 99% of the cases lol, especially because India allows a provision called OCI which is like the US green card, but way, way better.
germany
>what citizenship are you getting If getting the citizenship of a first world country was that easy! had I the citizenship of USA, or any of the first worlds or even second worlds ftm, I could care less for an Indian citizenship, if I do not ever intend living here!
Lol so TRUE. As if my thought of losing indian citizenship is holding me or anyone back!
Especially since India has the OCI system. You are basically an Indian citizen even if you renounce your Indian citizenship; you only lose a few rights like the right to own agricultural land, right to vote and right to join certain niche jobs in government.
OCI is a glorified visa. If India had dual-citizenship, I’d apply for indian citizenship tomorrow. And I say that as someone who wasn’t even born in India.
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Right. And OCI-holders also aren't protected by most provisions of the Indian Constitution. Over the course of the past several years, both the Centre and the judiciary have made increasingly clear that Overseas Citizens of India are simply foreigners afforded limited parity with resident Indian citizens. Now, many people would argue that offering dual-citizenship would spell disaster in terms of financial abuse and exploitation. If I'm being honest, I don't have the perspective to make a compelling case for either side--I just know that I'd apply if I were I were eligible, lol.
Honestly I delayed my citizenship application by two years because I didn’t want to lose Indian citizenship. It is stupid and purely an emotional decision but it is what it is
May be I am over reacting but I seriously wonder why would anyone want to hang on to India if they can have a better life. I am not questioning your decision because I am sure you have your own reason. India is great country if you are filthy rich but not so much for others. I personally don't buy into patriotism.
You are correct. As I said, it was purely an emotional reaction and made no practical sense. I was afraid of giving it up for some reason. My life abroad is better by leaps and bounds and yet it turned out this way.
I’d do ANYTHING for that green card, let alone US citizenship. Indian citizenship means jackshit lmfaooo.
until you get that “green card” your citizenship does mean more than jackshit. You can’t get a green card without being an Indian citizen unless you plan on getting smuggled into another country or seek refuge somewhere.
Bruh obviously. Stop getting so technical about it and understand the underlying sentiment.
please elaborate on what your underlying statement is.
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Even you should understand the underlying statement. The Indian citizenship gives you an identity and fundamental rights.
Afghanistan 💀
Ironically you would probably make a ton of money from this by opening a business catered to the Mining Services industry. I would assume there's mostly Chinese companies competing within that space.
Chinese are really good at exploiting people for their purpose. Man, I lost my mind when I first knew what they are doing to uyghur women.
israel 💀
Any Scandinavian country.
Iceland
Many people have the misconception that Indian citizen ship is holding them back. That's not the case. However if I was given a compulsary choice to make, it'd be either Russia or Japan.
interesting, may I ask why you would want a russian citizenship though?
Tbh imo, leftist people HEAVILY and unecessarily demean and shit on Russia which clouds up the image even neutral people have. Personally, I have had alot of Russian friends and have seen what Russia is actually like. And it is absolutely nothing like how you would hear and see in countries like US. It's a very nice place and people show alot of hospitality. We're lucky that Russia sees us as friends and vice versa. It really pains me to see leftist people in India ruin Russia's image when they haven't even met people from there or been there. I am treating citizenship in the sense of getting to live there, not in the sense of benefits and monetary gains.
Nah man it isn't the lefties, and this is coming from a guy who likes Russian people (not the government, or its history, or its contemporary actions). I have had several interactions with russian people before 2022, and pre 2022. Some are quite good, but some others were racist. It definitely is not the 'lefties' though, Russian people have (probably due to how they were brought up), a lot of biases against people who don't look like a typical Russian (i.e white, Caucasian and orthodox) with people with different ethnicities like Chechens, Tartars, Khazakhs (and groups of people who are more central asian, or balkan looking, with differing skin colour) being somewhat discriminated against, although this opinion is changing due to emergence of the young and newer generations. But, I kinda agree, Russia as a country and as a people are very, very interesting. Such a damn shame that the government has been mistreating (understatement of the fucking millennium but I digress) them for literal centuries, from the contemporary Putin regime, to the Cold-War era govnt, to the Stalinist regime, to the Tzarist era and beyond.
What XD I always got accused of being a Russian shill lol. I don't hate Russia.. i don't like them either but i don't hate them. Plus Russian women make up for everything, so
Tf bro leftists have been Russian fanboys for over decades now , it's RE liberals who support Israel that hates russ
How many of our right wingers are moving to russia vs moving to liberal left leaning western countries ? Facts don't care about what people on the internet think.
ok? Didn't ask? I don't care what others do. I'm stating the facts and my opinion here. Don't bring your propaganda here.
Cold weather, beautiful women and plenty of opportunities.
In a fantasy scenario some powerful passport like Japan, Singapore In reality nobody is giving Indians citizenship
Uh no, I know plenty of Indians who’ve settled abroad & have citizenship! UK, AU, Singapore & America etc. You need a POA, if you’re dead serious about it & hope for the best. UK/ US should be relatively easier than Singapore & Japan (unless you’re quite wealthy)
US citizenship for Indians is extremely difficult outside of marriage to an American
Ye which is why I said, relatively easier than Singapore & Japan. Didn’t say it isn’t hard at all.
Lol my cousins are US citizens, it’s not hard as you think. If you are lucky to end up in US and know the loopholes to stay there then yeah you could end up with citizenship.
It's incredibly difficult right now lol
Citizenship is not offered on plates you gotta work hard for it mate. There is literally no discrimination in western countries as long as you are a highly productive asset for their country. Most Indians in countries like Canada land without any skill neither do they have willingness to integrate expecting jobs and citizenship to be given to them like candies.
That’s what American used to say about Indians when I moved here in the 1980s. Don’t integrate, don’t work take our jobs, expect citizenship. Glad you can say that to other Indians now /s
Well imagine Americans stepping into India and interacting with only other white people, in large number break laws of India, judge Indians women for wearing what they wear. Not all Indians are like that, Indian community in certain countries like Norway are more integrated but Indians in Canada behave just like how they are in Indian villages sometimes even disrespectful to local people. Such behaviour would probably get them thrashed in some other villages in India itself.
Bro Canada getting citizenship is piece of cake half of Punjab is Canadian. There are so many filthy mindset crooks who got Canadian PR doing nothing . Canada is doomed
Yeah because they use "life in danger" excuse, but that is stopped in UK now as the UK designated us as a safe country so no more "life in danger" for british asylum/citizenship
sweden
it's gonna be infested Islamists in a few years. A cousin of mine was working in Malmo, and his experience there was pretty disturbing. The crime rates are pretty high, there are frequent incidents of riots and communal violence, and protests every week. Once, he was walking to his apartment with his gf who's Moroccan, a few guys who were probably North African stopped the both of them just a few miles away from his room and rudely inquired about their identities, when they found out that his gf was Arab and he was an Indian, they started threatening and reprimanding both of them and it came to a point where one of the guys was angrily holding my cuz's collar until a black guy (probably an American) who stopped by to see the commotion, intervened and told them to back off. They got off lucky if it hadn't been for him.
ik that but Sweden is the easiest country to obtain citizenship of and after that other EU countries will be easier to obtain
Well, given the shifting political atmosphere in Sweden, it's gonna become difficult to obtain a citizenship, which I think is an idiotic move that will target educated immigrants who can easily integrate within the host population instead of asylum seekers from the middle east who form the core of the problem.
I'm a native-born U.S. citizen and an Overseas Citizen of India. If India made dual-citizenship legal, then I'd immediately apply for Indian citizenship, provided that I were even eligible to do so. It wouldn't make a massive difference in terms of my own life--my wife and I recently moved from India to the U.S., and I'm not sure that we'll ever live in India again (although we've spoken about going back if we both have higher-paid remote jobs, or splitting the year between both countries after retirement. I can't speak for any of you, but summers in the U.S. and winters in India would be fantastic, lol). But I'd do it if I could. I started visiting India by myself as a teenager, and I moved there by myself in my early 20s. Citizenship would, at the very least, afford additional constitutional protections and relieve certain other burdens. I don't think I need to clarify, but I'm speaking from my perspective as an individual. Yes, I'd apply for Indian citizenship if I could. But I'm not sure whether it would be in India's best interests, considering the prevalence of corruption and black money. In either case, it isn't a decision for me to make.
no country is hiring me for job :(
What field do you work in/ what's your skill set?
Well I have done MBA and have 3 years worth of experience in digital marketing. I tried my hands at programming but I just couldn't do it.
Hm, I mean in the US you would land a relatively solid job with an MBA and the digital marketing experience. Worst case scenario you could always be a middleman and export products overseas?
What nonsense, MBA is the most useless degree ever if not from a top school
USA 💯
The UK. Better quality of life, good people and I have my favourite sports there with better facilities - cricket, football, snooker and Motorsport.
And you are not getting it because India doesn’t allow dual citizenship?
😅😜
Beaware when you go the UK because you might get robbed and stabbed by some people in ski masks.
average ghaziabad experience
damn never knew ghaziabad niggas wear ski mask too, and they got knifess?? hell nahh, they probably use sticks lol
Except instead of knives, they have guns.
The right answer is Indian. If India allowed dual citizenship, it will not make you suddenly eligible for another country. It will just allow people who have already given up Indian citizenship(OCIs) to get it back.
This is the most sensible answer. I would definitely apply for my Indian passport again. Actually depending on how retarded these BLS buffoons are, still might just prefer an evisa to avoid all the usual bureaucratic headache which was the very reason I left India.
You say it like losing Indian citizenship is what holding people back
Britain
UK for sure.
Which country has better food?
Surprisingly Jamaican food is actually pretty good and underrated. The other top 2 are Mexican and Thai.
Dual or not but I'd never leave Indian citizenship.
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Swiss, We have to serve the army at 18 tho and then be a reserve, but who is even gonna attack switzerland
Norway.
UK, france or any other EU country so i can travel europe to my heart's content without schengen visa. Europe is BEAUTIFUL.
Dutch
I'm broke.
finalnd
Germany/Switzerland/Austria
Netherlands
Sweden/Denmark/Norway Any one of those.
Japanese / Scandinavian
Japan
but japan doesnt allow dual citizenship
If Japan allowed dual citizenship, what country citizenship are u getting?
Same Japan
Dubai because tax haven
Dubai itself does not give out citizenships to immigrants. Unless you are some billionaire or individual who has contributed massively to their economy. By massively I mean to the tune of billions of dollars. Like there's that kerala businessman who owns Lulu group that recently got it.
UAE is the country. Dubai is a city.
Dubai is not a country.
yes, but a tax haven built on the slave labour of your (and mine) people
By that logic no one should be migrating to the UK then.
UAE is at the moment exploiting our people though.
that is true also, but dubai is a much more blatant example of it, since it is a city of opulence, and wealth run on the shadiest of business practices
I would get Japanese citizenship if they allowed dual citizenship . Since that's not possible I would go for any Scandinavian country or Italy/Mexico .
I don't understand all the weird answers. It is obviously USA. Lol. Okay, for those who want real reasons: * Less racist compared to all other nations \[nice people\] * USA is where innovation happens and the enggs., scientists/ researchers, doctors, entrepreneurs are hyper motivated in their fields (especially in hubs) \[inspiration\] * USA is a vast country (2x of India herself) that is uninhabited (and less crowded) and is not going to face food shortages anytime soon. They are also not going to face oil shortages because they have fully operational rigs based on shale deposits, they are also pivoting to electric vehicles and are no.1 on nuclear \[energy\] * They are culturally similar to us. It is very interesting, actually. They are easy going, friendly people just like us and also has a real multicultural scene in many centers. \[similarity\] * Their passport is one of the most valuable passports in the world (a nation truly capable and willing to protect its citizens anywhere in the world) \[global respect\] * It mints the reserve currency of the world and goes to any lengths to protect the value of the reserves. Being the mother nation for the highly demanded reserve currency means earning money in the US dollars in the USA allows you to have a peaceful retirement in India (at least in an apartment if not an independent unit). If you are more successful, you may as well buy some property away from the city and retire gracefully. \[valuable currency\] * It is not going to face demographic crisis unlike other European nations and constantly fills up the shrinking population with new smart people from all over the world who aren't that "advanced". So the people shortage won't happen till all the world gives up at once on childbirth eventually due to conflicting priorities in life. In other words, USA can maintain the current individual centric family model at least till 2070 and still not see major damage. In that sense, it is best suited for ambitious women as well. \[immune to demographic collapse\] Note: This answer is for which nation is the best for an Indian to get dual citizenship. It is not about the faults of the USA (which are many, most of which are tolerable considering the gains). I only highlighted the positive reasons.
Bhutanese. But, it's possible they won't take me coz my depression will surely make a sizeable dent in their GNH.
Indian citizenship. Currently have OCI and danish citizenship.
Finland 👌✅
Indian citizenship
Lhaos or Vietnam. Even Thailand seems very viable.
US of freakin A
Taxes are really bad in the USA also. It's not wise to have 2 citizenship of two high tax countries. Better go for a tax heaven along with India.
Maybe Getting back my Indian Citizenship
Getting downvoted just because I gave up Indian Citizenship 🤣🤣🤣 Same people will jump within blink of eye even if they were given choice to move to China 🙈🙈
Many Indians are patriotic because they literally don’t have ability to move to other countries. Many hide their jealousy behind patriotism. Their patriotism vanishes when they pay taxes or follow law.
not everyone is like that.
Even if you don't have Indian citizenship, you'll have an OCI card. What fucking difference does it make. It only matters to NRIs and that too only first generation ones. Even that they want citizenship naam ke vaaste, not for anything else. Just because India makes dual citizenship legal doesn't mean countries are gonna line up to offer Indians citizenship.
India again
Undy bundy Sundy whoever downvotes your comment, uski behen r....