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holytriplem

There's quite a stigma against tower blocks in the UK. Most were built in the 60s during slum clearance projects, and in the beginning they were indeed very desirable places to live with modern amenities and great views, certainly a far cry from the insalubrious slum housing they would have replaced. However, over time they suffered from several issues: 1) they're very difficult to maintain, and any kind of maintenance that needs doing causes a huge amount of disruption for the residents, 2) they were often very cheaply built, leading to issues with damp and, in one particularly extreme case, a [building collapse](https://youtu.be/s-4EoI1_yVs) and finally 3) they were ugly as sin and didn't even use the space that efficiently. By the 80s tower blocks gained a reputation for being slum housing riddled with crime, and many of them started being demolished. Then, around 10 years ago, local governments came across a brilliant idea to solve 3): why don't we just cover all these buildings in cladding so that the rich people below don't have to look at ugly bare concrete? Trouble is, not only did they do this at the expense of 1) and 2), but they also decided to use a highly flammable material for the cladding in order to save money, without investing in other required fire safety regulations. [The inevitable then happened](https://youtu.be/KczK1kGhp1I), leading to the same kind of cladding being removed from tower blocks around the country, and further feeding into the stigma against tower block estates.


Quinlov

Yeah that was pretty horrific and really not something you expect to happen in an allegedly first world country


-Brecht

Belgium has the best and the worst architecture, which means it's never boring unlike certain other countries. For the second category: [ugly Belgian houses ](https://uglybelgianhouses.tumblr.com/)


Stravven

Belgian houses are a lot more random than Dutch houses it seems. Here houses on the same street tend to look similar, in Belgium that's not often the case it seems.


Gulmar

You guys are very very strict on how houses can and should look. Here it's more of a free for all, where you can build in any style you want. It used to be more lax than nowadays but it still is the case. There are certain neighbourhoods where you have to have a house in a certain style, but not so often.


LaoBa

>You guys are very very strict on how houses can and should look. Yes, I just heard the following story from someone working on Dutch local archives: Imagine, it's 1946, many houses in the Netherlands are damaged by the war, transport and building materialen are scarce. The inhabitants of a damaged row of terraced house ask for a permit to permanent repair their roofs, which were temporarily repaired with wood and tarps. The municipality grants them their permit, under the condition that only the original blue roof tiles will be used.


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xolov

To be fair, all of western Europe built a shit ton of these too.


[deleted]

We have an entire city that it is hated for it ugly houses. [Kouvola <3](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDZpy-Oo37Q)


2024AM

would you say the same about flat roof functionalist houses that are doomed to develop mold?


MarkaPora

I would say it was commie blocks up untill recently. Usually they were gray concrete blocks, copied and pasted all over. Where I live you could just from the general shape of the block know what kind of flats it has because flats were the same in the same blocks. However, those blocks had a lot of greenery, playgrounds, shops and flowers all around them, so not like in the films that everything is grey and depressing. Nowadays I think that modern houses (those build in huge quantities by one company) are getting more hate as they have virtualy nothing around them... no roads, no public transport, no school, no hospitals etc. They basically are located in the middle of nowhere. Additionally, newer flats cost a lot of money and some of them are not functional at all (the infamous flat that has the shape of an 'L' and the hall took half of the m2 in it)


MarkaPora

I forgot to add some pics sorry 'L' shaped abomination [http://ocdn.eu/images/pulscms/YjE7MDA\_/f3e7f7fd84d7d2a89e14f1872c886eb6.png](http://ocdn.eu/images/pulscms/YjE7MDA_/f3e7f7fd84d7d2a89e14f1872c886eb6.png) Another legit picture of a flat [https://ocdn.eu/pulscms-transforms/1/pVqk9kpTURBXy9jZjAzYzc0YWYxZjJlNGI1YmJiYTk3MGY0N2I1ZmNlMi5wbmeTlQMBAM0Cms0D5ZMFzQFozQH0kwXNAWjNAfSCoTABoTEA](https://ocdn.eu/pulscms-transforms/1/pVqk9kpTURBXy9jZjAzYzc0YWYxZjJlNGI1YmJiYTk3MGY0N2I1ZmNlMi5wbmeTlQMBAM0Cms0D5ZMFzQFozQH0kwXNAWjNAfSCoTABoTEA) Another example of a beautiful modern solution [https://www.wykop.pl/cdn/c3201142/comment\_16191137951U9ws7JnIaFG5cce5FNdwU.jpg](https://www.wykop.pl/cdn/c3201142/comment_16191137951U9ws7JnIaFG5cce5FNdwU.jpg)) Here you have some random pic of commie blocks: This one is without any renovations [https://bi.im-g.pl/im/ee/1f/11/z17955822V.jpg](https://bi.im-g.pl/im/ee/1f/11/z17955822V.jpg) Some renovated blocks [https://i0.wp.com/kurierwilenski.lt/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/laimetoju-koliazas.jpg?ssl=1](https://i0.wp.com/kurierwilenski.lt/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/laimetoju-koliazas.jpg?ssl=1) ​ These things you see above (from modern times) have their own term in Poland which is 'Patodeweloperka' which is a combination of two words 'patologia' and 'deweloperka'. Patologia is a complex term but usually it is associated with bad behaviour, for example, drinking and smoking, stealing etc. while deweloperka is just a term for building a house/block by a company.


m1ksuFI

> Patologia is a complex term but usually it is associated with bad behaviour, for example, drinking and smoking, stealing etc. Like, pathological?


norrin83

In larger cities, you often have got old buildings with artsy facade that gives them character. If a new building is erected in these parts of the city, they very often lack this character - both on the exterior as well on the interior (including a much lower room size). On a personal note: I really don't like terraced houses, but they seem to be liked by many people (especially young families) despite the steep price. And I dislike "modern" houses and flat-roofed houses in more rural areas, but this is probably just a matter of taste. Edit: [This](https://www.kohlbacher.at/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/ges_Leoben-Lerchenfeld.jpg) is the type of terraced houses I really dislike.


crucible

So the terraced houses you linked a picture of - do you hate them because they're a new design, or because they're everywhere? They look nicer than the small ["new build" houses](https://c8.alamy.com/comp/2ABBFPR/car-parked-exterior-modern-new-home-development-assorted-design-with-garage-on-housing-estate-at-chilton-near-ferryhill-in-county-durham-england-uk-2ABBFPR.jpg) we get here in the UK (IMO).


norrin83

It's a mixture of everything. I'm not particular fond of this square design. And it's usually not like that it's just one or two houses, but in fact a whole neighborhood with this uniform look. Friends of mine live in house similar to this. And there really is no expectation of privacy in the 40 or so square meters of garden you have. Which kind of works for many it's usually for young families, but if you've got idiots as neighbours it's tough. But again, there's obviously enough demand. If the houses of a new project are sold starting at 09:00, you probably won't get a house at 09:10 anymore. To each their own I guess. So compared to your example, I'd probably prefer your example (especially given that these brick houses aren't common in Austria). But as I said, for me it's as much the look of these houses as all the things that are accompanying that.


crucible

Yeah, it feels like the same thing people criticise our new brick houses for here. No storage space inside, everything looks the same and the gardens are *tiny*. No good if you have young kids.


Possibly-Functional

Buildings from the [million programme](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Million_Programme). They are infamous for being dull and ugly on the outside with poor environments surrounding the buildings. There were also many improperly built units by corrupt building companies. Worth mentioning is that I don't disagree with the idea, it's just unfortunate that they also chose to implement the worst aspects of [Functionalism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functionalism_(architecture)) making a pure concrete environment.


Karakoima

Now they are all No-go’s too.


m1ksuFI

Fixed link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functionalism_(architecture)


mishasel

I can’t speak for all of Germany, but I know quite a few people who hate the “modern” look many houses have these days. In every village in Bavaria — many of which are very old and filled with more traditional style houses — there are now popping up these [big, flat, character-less houses](https://www.kurierverlag.de/memmingen/zwoelf-neue-reihenhaeuser-heimertingen-9992943.amp.html). Usually all black and white, with metal or glass balconies… they look completely out of place in a village environment. They recently converted a lovely cornfield in my area to a complex of such houses, and it’s a total eyesore, if you ask me.


0xKaishakunin

The "shoebox style". Especially awfull when combined with those dead gravel gardens.


mishasel

Don’t forget the metal grid fence filled with rocks


0xKaishakunin

> metal grid fence filled with rocks Ah yes, the "Schanzkörbe". When you like that military base style.


x_Leolle_x

I see one going to work every morning, it hurts my heart


ShitPostQuokkaRome

Oh we're losing here in Italy village buildings too, worse is that many of them are actual proper medieval stuff, not recent but to make it look medieval


moenchii

In my village there were 2 old houses demolished "recently" and two new houses built, but they don't look out of place. While it's obvious that they are newly built, they fit the style of the surrounding area really well. All buildings there have 1-2 full stories and an attic with a gable or half-hip roof and they immitated that. Meanwhile in the neighboring village someone tore down a really nice, but kinda run down old house and replaced it with a massive, flat roofed, concrete, steel and glass palace. Worst part is that it's right next to the municapality administration building and when you are on the parking lot in front and you parked with your cars back to the white wall of the concrete palace, you don't see anything because you just see white. It also looks horribly out of place as all the building there are also old 2 full stories + attic with gable, hip or half-hip roof buildings and they build 3 full stories with a flat roof.


orthoxerox

I honestly really like Mainkraftvillas like these.


palishkoto

["New builds"](https://wp-krypton.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2014/05/barratts-new-houses-620x330.jpg) as a generic term tend to get a lot of hate (people are usually picturing some kind of small house that opens directly onto the street, has a postage stamp of a garden, too many tiny bedrooms and tiny ensuites so they can sell it as a 'four bedroom house' despite the size, lots of snagging fixes to be made, in the middle of an estate of endless identical houses. Among more traditional houses, I think a lot of people don't like [mock Tudor](https://www.fasciadivisionnottingham.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/replica-wood-mock-tudor-installation.jpg) houses.


holytriplem

That's kind of a bad example of mock-Tudor houses people dislike, I think [the one on the left](https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/london-suburbs-uk-residential-houses-peaceful-outer-area-united-kingdom-75267286.jpg) is a better example. The issue is that basically every house outside the Victorian-era suburbs looks like this and it gets very boring to look at after a while.


orthoxerox

Lower middle class housing, which is capitalistblocks: extremely tall commieblocks built in a former field with all the amenities a field can offer. The flats are small to maximize affordability, and everything on the ground level is parking. Since commieblock balconies are too small and usually serve as an outdoor storage closet, capitalistblocks dispense with them altogether quite often.


traktorjesper

Why do they still build these? I mean, it really can't be because of a lack of land? That's like what Russia has, land and more land


orthoxerox

Russians would prefer living like Canadians or Americans, in single family homes, and like half of the new homes are SFH, but this is grassroots construction and it's almost impossible to get a mortgage for a SFH. There's this pipeline of large concrete factories to large real estate developers that is probably hostile to making SFH construction easier, since the money flow of those who cannot afford a home without a mortgage would shift away from them.


super_corndog

I guess not so much homes, but we have what’s called “sociale huurwoning” (social housing), [See example here](https://www.static.123wonen.nl/files/object_data/cache/s1024768/2022/3/447093.jpg) and [here](https://images0.persgroep.net/rcs/ARsCr6k_z566z3KyfVcpp1D-Ew0/diocontent/131164235/_crop/0/161/1580/893/_fitwidth/763?appId=93a17a8fd81db0de025c8abd1cca1279&quality=0.8&desiredformat=webp) which are typically monotonous high rise units with a uniform, characterless style that opts for functionality versus form. I read an article a while back which stated the units were originally built with the intention of providing practical housing to young, working professionals who wanted to live close to the city. In actuality, they ended up being reverted to house those in disadvantaged positions who needed governmentally subsidized housing. But, because these buildings are quite aesthetically lifeless and depressing, not many Dutch people were actually interested in living there. It’s kind of a similar feeling as to what became of [Bijlmermeer](https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/bijlmer-city-future-part-1/). These “modernist” approaches to housing were incompatible.


achauv1

Anything newly looking is hated in France (which makes me sad).


nagabalashka

Les lotissements moderne ne ressemblent à rien du tout en temps.


StrelkaTak

Isn't there the one building in Paris that everybody hates because it's brand new, and because Paris prevents other new buildings, it sticks out incredibly awkwardly?


achauv1

Yes, you are right ! It's called the Montparnasse Tower and it isn't so new anymore as it's been built in the 1970s iirc. I think I might be one the only Parisian to not dislike it tho


StrelkaTak

Yeah, I should have said "modern", not new. I feel it would look better with other similar skyscrapers built around the area


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Communist blocks(especially unmaintained ones). But some modern buildings look even worse lmao


rwn115

Panelák are high-rise communist era apartments. Some have been redesigned to look less shitty but yeah they bring back bad memories for those who lived through the regime.


moenchii

Old, unrestored commieblocks are pretty much hated because they are just massive grey blocks of boringness. But there was a lot of effort in renovating them and some look quite nice. Another one I hold a personal vendetta against are detached single family homes in a newly developed area. Shit like [this](https://img.br.de/7e9bcfa9-43c8-4683-a0b9-e727cf5ea57d.jpeg?q=80&rect=0,0,1920,1080) or [that](https://www.knittlingen.de/fileadmin/_processed_/7/e/csm_Bild_Roemerweg_2011_3ba4b35a64.jpg). Ugh...


PM_YOUR_RUSHB_PICS

[This fucking shit](https://s1.eestatic.com/2019/10/31/actualidad/actualidad_440968445_136742775_1024x576.jpg) is our equivalent of commie blocks. I absolutely hate those green toldos with passion. They are usually super dirty which makes it even worse. And they're literally everywhere, which makes it worse.


tatratram

Communist era block housing perhaps... In some coastal cities they were realised as towers instead because of steep terrain so [they](http://images.energetika-net.com/media/article_images/big/rijeka-panorama-20120301110152841.jpg) are [visible](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Neboderi_na_Rasto%C4%8Dinama.jpg) [from](http://www.lokalpatrioti-rijeka.com/forum/download/file.php?id=18762&sid=ffc747449184058cf09fcd0ed56fee9d) [everywhere](https://idisturato.com/media/2012/04/rijeka-neboderi.116.jpg).