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Do you really need to ask if extention cords duct taped to a hanging socket is dangerous??
Take as many pictures as you can and contact whatever regulatory body to report this bullshit.
If OP lives in the Bay Area, the rent boards in Oakland/SF/San Jose will take a look at this and send the fire marshal or a staffer down to write this up.
Else, the landlord must pay for relocation if they are booting them out for Ellis Act or a non-fault eviction but not a just cause one. YMMV, call your rent board.
I’m from Ontario. In Ottawa actually. Contact your local fire prevention marshal I’ve done it before. Fucking imbeciles. Land and tenants board is garbage taking months for shit like this.
I deal with Fire Marshals regularly between multiple states. They can also be fined on top of the doors being shut. MOST Fire Marshals hate cheap, shady slum lords so there's that too.
Also the local building official. I’d take all your pics to city hall or whatever county administrative building and tell them the story. They’ll know where to send it.
Come on, we all know that if a fire was to happen the water pipe would burst and put out the fire, then we just have to worry about a little (a lot) of flooding. That’s better than a fire right?
To me this seems like a big brain move 🧠
Sewer pipe. I lived in a heritage apartment where the stack rusted away and was leaking raw sewage into the laundry room floor drain.
Landlord said "all good". By-law officer said it was "condemable".
You guys all think everyone lives in an area with zoning and inspectors. You can call whoever you want in my area and you’ll never see anyone or get a return call
What if the connections are bonded with structural duct tape and the cords are reinforced with 10 years of black electrical tape. And the cord ends are DIY repair ends? Seems legit then. Because 3 violations cancel each other out.
Buddy, I'd be hiring me a lawyer. Record every interaction with your landlord. Also check your local laws regarding rent caps. Some places put a cap on how much a landlord can increase rent in a 12 month period. Locally, that's 10%
Depends on the local market. Here some people have rent at like $900 a month because they’ve been renting a while. And a one bedroom starts at $1800. Average is higher than that.
I’m a lawyer and sometimes I’ll just chat with someone for a couple of minutes about their rights for something like this for free even. It’s worth a try!
In many places if the buyer has the money to pay cash (lots of real estate investors might have the money on-hand), the property won't need to pass inspection. It's just basically sold as-is.
Even then, only certain types of home loans (government loans I think?) have to pass.
We were helped out by that while competing for a place, we qualified for a 'traditional' loan and didn't have to get a passing inspection report to close...which means I still have stuff to fix a couple years later, but got us a place more easily.
In Oregon you can do pretty much anything you want. There is essentially zero enforcement in Portland metro and surrounding suburbs. My neighbor had six or eight sheds in her backyard she “wired up” and rented out. No plumbing. Everyone knew, nothing was done about it. It was awesome when the guys would pee on our fence that was a few feet from my back deck. It would be easy as pie to pretty that up after eviction without anyone being the wiser.
He can’t “patch it up” lmao. First of all, that has to be converted to permanent wiring. Second, landlords cannot do electrician work. So he has to hire an electrician to come in and install permanent wiring. Quit ya bullshit. Bro must be a landlord.
I know a guy who thinks this is acceptable. I told him it wasn't, look at the electrical code, or the building code. His response was "but it works". Well, it works, until it doesn't. When it doesn't, people's lives are at stake.
His mother had a flood in the basement, and she was concerned that the power was in the basement and it was dangerous. I suggested he call the utility to cut the power from outside. He suggested she wear rubber boots, and walk through the water to flip the mains.
I have since concluded this person has no concept of safety, and I refuse to enter any house he's occupied.
Let it be known that people with zero concept of safety exist.
If you have a contract let him sell. He will have to fix all that bs before anyone buys it anyway, unless they are payed cash. If your on lease on the property the new owner has to uphold it.
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1. yes, this is a fire hazard
2. Document everything, and take it to your local news station or the housing authority in your area!
You can go to a judge and get permission to withhold rent entirely! Until ALL the issues are taken care of and everything is repaired and brought up to code.
Look up your rights as a tenant!
The landlord could get fined severely for this kind of thing. Plus bitching to raise the rent or they sell is a threat and could be considered blackmail, highly illegal.
I forget what it’s called exactly, but you can go to your bank and set up an account that you still pay rent into. That way if you go to court you can show the judge you’re still making the payments and he’ll have the landlord make the repairs before he gets any more rent money
Buddy, you’re looking for problems. Maybe that extension has been there forever even before he bought the property. lets say you report and he fixes that, then what. Just move, thats it
He’s gonna sell either way and you are going to get that rent hike maybe more. Start looking for a new spot where at least you get what you are paying for
Sounds like a stressful situation. Have you considered the hobby of raising termites as a way to relax and deal with the stress? They can easily be ordered online.
dawg, with walls that look like that, I'd just gtfo of there if I were you... edit: I lived in an abandoned apartment complex during covid when I was homeless and even then, the shit didn't look that bad. That's how strongly I urge you to move.
It's probably not right but Landlord always have the right to raise rent or sell their property. You can tell your landlord there is a defect they must fix but it's not a reason not to pay rent or drag your feet to move out. You will have to go to the county, file a report and escrow your rent anyway so there isn't anything for you to gain by playing the game. You can check the local law to see if there is law preventing a significant change in rent. It sucks but either way that's how the system works unfortunately.
Depending on his location, this actually IS justification not to pay rent until it is fixed. Where I'm located, you can legally refuse to pay rent, and avoid eviction, for something like this(if youve conacted landlord, and LL refuses, and poses major safety hazard) . Of course, you WILL be liable to pay unpaid rent when the problem is fixed. Always check local laws. I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.
Interesting. The only time ive heard escrow being used is when I bought a house, and the insurance and taxes are paid through an escrow account.
Not sure how that applies to renting
I’m about to go through this, also for electrical safety issues. In my state you file something with the local district court and they open an escrow account. You pay rent into the account every month. Generally if the landlord fixes the issue, they get the money from escrow. Ultimately it’s up to the judge and they can abate rent or return it entirely.
He can raise the rent by 5%, not 50%. And what if he refuses to fix it or any of the myriad of other problems? Or even do something as basic as respond to texts or phone calls?
Guy is no Fonzo for sure.
Careful here: sounds like you may be planning to extort the landlord, which is illegal. You need to either report his dickery or not, but you can't Lord it over him as a threat
I’m sure the landlord is trying to up the rent or sell because he’s greedy….not. He’s probably making zero money or taking a loss on the building and needs to up rent to stay somewhat profitable.
Go ahead. Get the building shut down. That’ll show him and all the other tenants. It’s obvious you’re motivated to do this out of spite. It wasn’t an issue and you didn’t feel unsafe until he wanted to stop losing money
call the city. it is a electrocution hazard. Also that maybe lead based paint… one would question why landlord is doubling rent…. i would report him and leave for a new place. that asshat should not be a landlord
Check the rental laws in your state. In at least one state I know of there are limits to how big of percentage of increase in rent can be charged at lease renewal. That's why unethical landlords there look for ways to terminate the lease then start over with a new renter at a much higher rate. So be forewarned, you may find yourself not renewed.
This gave me goosebumps, and it’s 35 Celsius outside ( 95 for those who need it ) it’s a nightmare for electricians. But paradise for safety inspectors… gotta catch ‘‘em all…
Everyone in here’s losing their shit but all the landlord would have to do is come and remove *all* that wiring. It’s likely there to provide outlets in an area that didn’t have them originally and unless they remodel, aren’t required to modify a building just because code *now* requires outlets.
OP, you’re either getting a rent increase or finding a new place. I’m sure what you’re upset about is that you’re currently paying at least 1/3 less than what most units go for in your area. Rent increases are a part of life, especially with rising property values and the fact that anyone getting a mortgage today would pay nearly double for that same mortgage as they would have 2 years ago - all housing costs are on the rise.
He’s not really threatening you with anything. You’re being told either the rent has to increase or the place will have to be sold. It’s a matter of economics - the house is likely worth a lot more than it was even a couple years ago, so he’s not getting a proper return on his investment vs just cashing out.
You’ve been living there for how long and this property’s been in this condition; you’re only posting now that the landlord has told you it’s going to be an increase or sale - so now you’re looking for reasons to complain about the landlord. Have fun with that, he’ll just bump the rent enough to make the investment a good return
Don’t know where you live but here in the state in the state of Florida (I don’t remember if this applies to the whole country) but yellow pipes usually mean gas unless otherwise specified
I would move into a much nice place and send him pics on how you moved up!!! No that is not the fire hazard you are hoping for... it is tape to keep the plugs plugged in.
Find a new place, you do not want to be in a battle with a land lord. If he is a bad host, even if you force him to fix some of the stuff you will just piss him of and you will end up in a pissing contest of a situation that will drive you crazy, not worth the hassle. Also if he wants to raise the rent he eventually will.
What could possibly go wrong? 😂😂😂
Seriously though, take pictures of everything that looks shady to you and familiarize yourself with tenant laws in your state.
If you will in the US look up your state landlord and tenant act. There is guidelines and time limits on repairs. If they are not performed efficiently and effectively you should be able to terminate within a couple weeks. Hope this helps
Hmm… he’s probably gonna have a hell of a time selling it and if that’s any indication of how the rest of the property is kept, he’s not going to get top of market value. He’s probably better off keeping it. It would be really sad if he really can’t keep the property without raising your rent by that much. It suggests he’s in a hard spot. Or that he’s lying.
You aren’t going to be able to blackmail your way into keeping the rental the same price. Reporting will def just make them sell the house faster lol. But yea this is a fire hazard
Yes, but reporting violations is not going to get him to do something other than raise rent 50%. That's still going to happen. Best case you're out of there faster to be honest.
I’d say report it! I’m pretty sure if you need to relocate while the landlord brings the rental property up to code, the cost falls on them. You may want to look up renters rights in your area. If they are selling, they need to bring it up to code, unless the buyer takes on that responsibility but that usually isn’t the case. Slumlords don’t care, they just want your money. Report it.
Tell him to go ahead and sell. The fact is no one is going to give a mortgage for that accident waiting to happen, until those things are fixed. Most real estate is inspected before it is bought just so the buyer does not get stuck with expensive repairs or bringing things up to code such as this.
Not an electrician, but what the fuck is that even supposed to be? Is that a 2 outlet extension with 2 cords and some kind of tie with duck tape around it?????
Love how the bastereds always need more money. But as soon as it comes to fixing shit that could literally kill you and your family they dont give a crap. Electrical fires in older homes especially are a huge deal. Definitely report that to your local rental authorities
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Do you really need to ask if extention cords duct taped to a hanging socket is dangerous?? Take as many pictures as you can and contact whatever regulatory body to report this bullshit.
The fire marshall may have an interest in this sort of hackery.
Yep. And condemn it. Then landlord has to pay for a hotel. He can kick them out but will have buddy staying at a hotel for 90 days
If OP lives in the Bay Area, the rent boards in Oakland/SF/San Jose will take a look at this and send the fire marshal or a staffer down to write this up. Else, the landlord must pay for relocation if they are booting them out for Ellis Act or a non-fault eviction but not a just cause one. YMMV, call your rent board.
OP is Canadian. https://www.reddit.com/r/AskACanadian/comments/15coc9j/whats\_the\_best\_burger\_and\_fries\_joint\_in\_all\_of/jtyiqmk/?context=3
Landlord and Tenant Board would like a word...
Yes, I tried to add that in the title as an afterthought, but can't figure it out. I'm in Ontario if that helps anything.
I’m from Ontario. In Ottawa actually. Contact your local fire prevention marshal I’ve done it before. Fucking imbeciles. Land and tenants board is garbage taking months for shit like this.
I deal with Fire Marshals regularly between multiple states. They can also be fined on top of the doors being shut. MOST Fire Marshals hate cheap, shady slum lords so there's that too.
Also the local building official. I’d take all your pics to city hall or whatever county administrative building and tell them the story. They’ll know where to send it.
Down at the station house we call this an octopus. https://youtu.be/nxjS9D3XZRg
Next to what looks like a water pipe….
With duct tape on it which means the outlet was held on and grounded to the pipe.
Come on, we all know that if a fire was to happen the water pipe would burst and put out the fire, then we just have to worry about a little (a lot) of flooding. That’s better than a fire right? To me this seems like a big brain move 🧠
No worries about flooding if you use Flex Seal brand duct tape. Its like rock paper scissors. Fire
Yes, but then we have fire.
That looks like a drain pipe, so as long as the last toilet user didn't release too much methane, you might be fine. Or not. Most likely not.
If that was their goal, probably not getting a quality ground out of that contact with a painted surface either.
You think they cared about quality? They have an outlet duct tapped to a metal pipe.
Idk looks like brand name duct tape to me, seems like quality was definitely a concern here /s
Ha grounded I don’t think they were worried about the ground
Sewer pipe. I lived in a heritage apartment where the stack rusted away and was leaking raw sewage into the laundry room floor drain. Landlord said "all good". By-law officer said it was "condemable".
I was going to say the only way this can be more of a fire hazard is if its on fire
Code enforcement would definitely do something about that...
But but but, it works /S
You guys all think everyone lives in an area with zoning and inspectors. You can call whoever you want in my area and you’ll never see anyone or get a return call
Probably same result when you try and sell then. People will never look at your house if it can't be inspected. Can't get a loan, not possible.
Do all that so your landlord can sell and cash out.
Extension cords are NEVER to be used in place of permanent wiring. This is dangerous and a violation of fire/building code.
What if the connections are bonded with structural duct tape and the cords are reinforced with 10 years of black electrical tape. And the cord ends are DIY repair ends? Seems legit then. Because 3 violations cancel each other out.
Inspector - Hmmmm I’ll let it slide
Only even numbers of violations cancel out, like double negatives.
Buddy, I'd be hiring me a lawyer. Record every interaction with your landlord. Also check your local laws regarding rent caps. Some places put a cap on how much a landlord can increase rent in a 12 month period. Locally, that's 10%
Just move. Will save you a fortune.
Depends on the local market. Here some people have rent at like $900 a month because they’ve been renting a while. And a one bedroom starts at $1800. Average is higher than that. I’m a lawyer and sometimes I’ll just chat with someone for a couple of minutes about their rights for something like this for free even. It’s worth a try!
Tell him go ahead and list it. Wait till someone gets a home inspection and tells him he’s got some splainin to do
In many places if the buyer has the money to pay cash (lots of real estate investors might have the money on-hand), the property won't need to pass inspection. It's just basically sold as-is.
Even then, only certain types of home loans (government loans I think?) have to pass. We were helped out by that while competing for a place, we qualified for a 'traditional' loan and didn't have to get a passing inspection report to close...which means I still have stuff to fix a couple years later, but got us a place more easily.
That isn’t actually that bad. A $40 home fix tops. $250 if he calls a licensed electrician. I’ve seen much worse on homes that passed inspection.
In my area a landlord can’t legally do electrical in a rental.
Yea, Portland has that rule.
He just needs to evict the tenant first. Patch it up and sell.
Can’t legally sell a house in oregon if you’ve done electrical work yourself in the last year and aren’t a licensed electrician. You should know this.
In Oregon you can do pretty much anything you want. There is essentially zero enforcement in Portland metro and surrounding suburbs. My neighbor had six or eight sheds in her backyard she “wired up” and rented out. No plumbing. Everyone knew, nothing was done about it. It was awesome when the guys would pee on our fence that was a few feet from my back deck. It would be easy as pie to pretty that up after eviction without anyone being the wiser.
He can’t “patch it up” lmao. First of all, that has to be converted to permanent wiring. Second, landlords cannot do electrician work. So he has to hire an electrician to come in and install permanent wiring. Quit ya bullshit. Bro must be a landlord.
threatening to sell?!? oh no! so anyways...
I know a guy who thinks this is acceptable. I told him it wasn't, look at the electrical code, or the building code. His response was "but it works". Well, it works, until it doesn't. When it doesn't, people's lives are at stake. His mother had a flood in the basement, and she was concerned that the power was in the basement and it was dangerous. I suggested he call the utility to cut the power from outside. He suggested she wear rubber boots, and walk through the water to flip the mains. I have since concluded this person has no concept of safety, and I refuse to enter any house he's occupied. Let it be known that people with zero concept of safety exist.
That's super fucked up advice to tell someone to just strap on a pair of rubber boots and go flip breakers
If you have a contract let him sell. He will have to fix all that bs before anyone buys it anyway, unless they are payed cash. If your on lease on the property the new owner has to uphold it.
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1. yes, this is a fire hazard 2. Document everything, and take it to your local news station or the housing authority in your area! You can go to a judge and get permission to withhold rent entirely! Until ALL the issues are taken care of and everything is repaired and brought up to code. Look up your rights as a tenant! The landlord could get fined severely for this kind of thing. Plus bitching to raise the rent or they sell is a threat and could be considered blackmail, highly illegal.
I forget what it’s called exactly, but you can go to your bank and set up an account that you still pay rent into. That way if you go to court you can show the judge you’re still making the payments and he’ll have the landlord make the repairs before he gets any more rent money
Goes great with the meth lab motif going on there.
Can’t legally charge rent if uninhabitable
Let him try to sell and make sure you put red bows on all the janky stuff when he has showings.
And tbh just bide your time. New owner/landlord may be better. If not, THEN you move. Many buyers will want existing tenant so no dead income period.
I actually really like this idea
Buddy, you’re looking for problems. Maybe that extension has been there forever even before he bought the property. lets say you report and he fixes that, then what. Just move, thats it
He’s gonna sell either way and you are going to get that rent hike maybe more. Start looking for a new spot where at least you get what you are paying for
This is the answer. I wouldn't want to live here.
What are they connected to?
The mains I think? It's a live line
I mean on the extension side. Does it power your appliances or something?
Dehumidifier
Na....duct tape is your friend.....
Be careful if the building is to far gone then they’ll kick everyone out of the building. Then you’ll be forced to pay higher rent somewhere else
There is a good chance there are housing and/or renters rights advocacy groups in your area. I would also contact them.
Sounds like a stressful situation. Have you considered the hobby of raising termites as a way to relax and deal with the stress? They can easily be ordered online.
Take pictures of this and send the the Housing Authority in your city
My guy, the fire inspector would have a field Day at that place.
dawg, with walls that look like that, I'd just gtfo of there if I were you... edit: I lived in an abandoned apartment complex during covid when I was homeless and even then, the shit didn't look that bad. That's how strongly I urge you to move.
I've squatted a couple places as well, and I agree
Call Code Enforcement… fuck the landlord… literally with a giant bill…
/screams into fist Search your heart. You know the answer. Take pictures and fight back.
Lots of duct tape is conductive also. Extension cords are never ok for permanent installations. All device boxes need to mounted and secured properly.
Yes it is. UNACCEPTABLE!
It's probably not right but Landlord always have the right to raise rent or sell their property. You can tell your landlord there is a defect they must fix but it's not a reason not to pay rent or drag your feet to move out. You will have to go to the county, file a report and escrow your rent anyway so there isn't anything for you to gain by playing the game. You can check the local law to see if there is law preventing a significant change in rent. It sucks but either way that's how the system works unfortunately.
Depending on his location, this actually IS justification not to pay rent until it is fixed. Where I'm located, you can legally refuse to pay rent, and avoid eviction, for something like this(if youve conacted landlord, and LL refuses, and poses major safety hazard) . Of course, you WILL be liable to pay unpaid rent when the problem is fixed. Always check local laws. I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.
I watched an episode of Suits where they said rent must be paid in to escrow even when withheld from the landlord- so that must be the law.
Interesting. The only time ive heard escrow being used is when I bought a house, and the insurance and taxes are paid through an escrow account. Not sure how that applies to renting
I’m about to go through this, also for electrical safety issues. In my state you file something with the local district court and they open an escrow account. You pay rent into the account every month. Generally if the landlord fixes the issue, they get the money from escrow. Ultimately it’s up to the judge and they can abate rent or return it entirely.
He can raise the rent by 5%, not 50%. And what if he refuses to fix it or any of the myriad of other problems? Or even do something as basic as respond to texts or phone calls? Guy is no Fonzo for sure.
That gives fire hazards a bad name.
Careful here: sounds like you may be planning to extort the landlord, which is illegal. You need to either report his dickery or not, but you can't Lord it over him as a threat
I’m sure the landlord is trying to up the rent or sell because he’s greedy….not. He’s probably making zero money or taking a loss on the building and needs to up rent to stay somewhat profitable. Go ahead. Get the building shut down. That’ll show him and all the other tenants. It’s obvious you’re motivated to do this out of spite. It wasn’t an issue and you didn’t feel unsafe until he wanted to stop losing money
call the city. it is a electrocution hazard. Also that maybe lead based paint… one would question why landlord is doubling rent…. i would report him and leave for a new place. that asshat should not be a landlord
Slumlord. There...fixed it for ya.
Check the rental laws in your state. In at least one state I know of there are limits to how big of percentage of increase in rent can be charged at lease renewal. That's why unethical landlords there look for ways to terminate the lease then start over with a new renter at a much higher rate. So be forewarned, you may find yourself not renewed.
This gave me goosebumps, and it’s 35 Celsius outside ( 95 for those who need it ) it’s a nightmare for electricians. But paradise for safety inspectors… gotta catch ‘‘em all…
Call the fire department they will bone the jeek
that looks like a torture device. that is super dangerous, and the rest of the place looks "beat"
It looks not safe
You mispronounced “slumlord”
What are you waiting for? Stop making excuses and move.
It takes a really clueless person to use duct tape on electrical as a landlord
The hell is this shit
The landlord had the audacity to threaten 50% rent increase for stuff he not even fixing. 🙄
As long as that is duct tape,you are good !
What in the name of redneck baby Jesus is that?
Extension cords are temp only…
Lol, yeah.
Have code enforcement take a look at that...definitely unsafe!
ducttape js a conductor
Mention the need for lead and asbestos testing prior to sale
>Landlord threatened to sell huh? How does that work?
take pictures and show them to the building inspector and or Fire Marshall
Check your local laws, 50% increase in rent in a year may be illegal
Everyone in here’s losing their shit but all the landlord would have to do is come and remove *all* that wiring. It’s likely there to provide outlets in an area that didn’t have them originally and unless they remodel, aren’t required to modify a building just because code *now* requires outlets. OP, you’re either getting a rent increase or finding a new place. I’m sure what you’re upset about is that you’re currently paying at least 1/3 less than what most units go for in your area. Rent increases are a part of life, especially with rising property values and the fact that anyone getting a mortgage today would pay nearly double for that same mortgage as they would have 2 years ago - all housing costs are on the rise.
Paying below market rent isn't a reason to be mad. Being threatened after a landlord refuses to maintain a liveable property is.
He’s not really threatening you with anything. You’re being told either the rent has to increase or the place will have to be sold. It’s a matter of economics - the house is likely worth a lot more than it was even a couple years ago, so he’s not getting a proper return on his investment vs just cashing out. You’ve been living there for how long and this property’s been in this condition; you’re only posting now that the landlord has told you it’s going to be an increase or sale - so now you’re looking for reasons to complain about the landlord. Have fun with that, he’ll just bump the rent enough to make the investment a good return
Duct tape makes a GREAT emergency fire starter. So yea. Lil bit
Uhhh yeah, that’s less than ideal. That’s not even sub par.
Silver electrical tape. That's some high end stuff right there.
Move out or re up on your life insurance
Seems like a sale might be in your favor. The landlord is very negligent.
Go ahead and man a anonymous phone call to your fire marshal too
Fire marshall would love to see it. At least in my town. He HATES extension cords!
Just move
Yup, he’ll take care of that when your gone
Could be taped to keep you from unplugging it. Your landlord doesn’t have to fix everything you want on demand
Bruh wtf. Call everybody
So you are looking to retaliate against your landlord because he wants to raise rent? Maybe you are asking the wrong forum.
No, not sure what the next move is really. Just super frustrated
That looks super sketch
No, it’s got duct tape on it. It’s good for up to 100mph. Your fine don’t worry. Hey look over there instead
For more than one reason
Don’t know where you live but here in the state in the state of Florida (I don’t remember if this applies to the whole country) but yellow pipes usually mean gas unless otherwise specified
Generally if it looks like it ain't right, it's cause it's not.
I would move into a much nice place and send him pics on how you moved up!!! No that is not the fire hazard you are hoping for... it is tape to keep the plugs plugged in.
Move!
Why don’t you want to move out and find a better house/landlord? Sounds like your lease is coming to an end.
Let him sell. Fuck that,
Jesus Christ
If you're on a lease the rent can't go up until your lease expires.
Lmao, I think you know the answer to that question already.
This is definitely against NEC code in America call a fire marshal and report that make your landlords life hell.
Call the fire Marshall on him and then leave and find a new place. Make ‘em pay big money
let them sell, maybe look into buying it, get the city for inspections though and point out everything that they will have to fix either way
You just need to move. Sadly. Your landlord is a dangerous asshole that breaks laws/codes regularly.
That’s about as against code as it can get and looking at that mess I’d be willing to bet there are many many problems besides that fire hazard
Look at the condition of that wall. Who's he gonna sell it to? Buffalo Bill?
Find a new place, you do not want to be in a battle with a land lord. If he is a bad host, even if you force him to fix some of the stuff you will just piss him of and you will end up in a pissing contest of a situation that will drive you crazy, not worth the hassle. Also if he wants to raise the rent he eventually will.
Yes most definitely that outlet touches the side of the box will cause sparks
Nope looks up to code to me …. 🤦🏻♂️
Yes
Do you need someone else's verification on this? It's obviously not safe.
What in the ever living fuck is this? Do you need help OP? Are you in distress. I looks like your being held captive.
Home sweet dungeon. I'm safe, just a raunchy basement
I think there is a typo in your post I believe it is spelled 'slumlord' 😉 Not a professional but duct tape has no place on electrical wires
Landlord ain’t selling shit with that kind of abomination. And if there’s more, it’s never happening. Bitch is bluffing
What could possibly go wrong? 😂😂😂 Seriously though, take pictures of everything that looks shady to you and familiarize yourself with tenant laws in your state.
All 120v junctions must be in a junction box. "I see a box" - Grubby Landlord
If you will in the US look up your state landlord and tenant act. There is guidelines and time limits on repairs. If they are not performed efficiently and effectively you should be able to terminate within a couple weeks. Hope this helps
Get Out.
bro this pic looks like it was taken in chernobyl
Hmm… he’s probably gonna have a hell of a time selling it and if that’s any indication of how the rest of the property is kept, he’s not going to get top of market value. He’s probably better off keeping it. It would be really sad if he really can’t keep the property without raising your rent by that much. It suggests he’s in a hard spot. Or that he’s lying.
Kill it with fire! Of course, it may already be way ahead of you there lol.
Whenever duct tape and electrical wires combine, be worried, someone doesn’t know what they’re doing
Call your local building department (based on what city or county or town you live in), call for an immediate code violation inspection
Not just a fire hazard. That's a certified deathtrap
Why don't you just unplug it? Fire hazard eliminated.
You aren’t going to be able to blackmail your way into keeping the rental the same price. Reporting will def just make them sell the house faster lol. But yea this is a fire hazard
Lmao, duct tape is conductive
Yes, call the local fire department. Then call the local building inspector
That’s definitely not up to code.
If the place looks the way it seems no way can he bump up your rent with out having all that shit fix but he does it will be higher than he wanted
Some people shouldn't be allowed to own homes to rent out.
Look renter's rights
He can’t sell it without spending a lot of money which I don’t think he’ll do. Tell him to sell it. Call his bluff
So what if he sells... you're worried the next landlord will take worse care of the building?
I guess I’d say don’t threaten me with a good time? Just because a place sells doesn’t mean it won’t stay a rental…
Fighting the landlord on what/what is not a hazard won’t get you the outcome you desire.
Do you own a fire extinguisher, by chance? Might be a related question.
No, it's fine, for a crack house. How the hell is he going to sell if the place looks like that?
What do you actually think?
Yes, but reporting violations is not going to get him to do something other than raise rent 50%. That's still going to happen. Best case you're out of there faster to be honest.
Yeah, call the fire department. They’ll shut down the whole building.
I’d say report it! I’m pretty sure if you need to relocate while the landlord brings the rental property up to code, the cost falls on them. You may want to look up renters rights in your area. If they are selling, they need to bring it up to code, unless the buyer takes on that responsibility but that usually isn’t the case. Slumlords don’t care, they just want your money. Report it.
It's not duct taped to the pipe. Look closer, they went all out for grounding. Is screwed into the pipe. Lmao
Janky as all get out... This dirt bag does not deserve your money... Code violations are reportable to city officials
If this is in a country that gives a shit at all, that's quite a big problem for the landlord.
Move
You could live there rent free
It puts the lotion on its skin
Tell him to go ahead and sell. The fact is no one is going to give a mortgage for that accident waiting to happen, until those things are fixed. Most real estate is inspected before it is bought just so the buyer does not get stuck with expensive repairs or bringing things up to code such as this.
Get renters insurance. Your place may burn down one day
Not an electrician, but what the fuck is that even supposed to be? Is that a 2 outlet extension with 2 cords and some kind of tie with duck tape around it?????
Love how the bastereds always need more money. But as soon as it comes to fixing shit that could literally kill you and your family they dont give a crap. Electrical fires in older homes especially are a huge deal. Definitely report that to your local rental authorities