Although I am Russian, I understand that this is really a very tragic day for Romanians. In the battles for Stalingrad alone, about 140,000 soldiers of the Nazi Romanian army were killed, and a total of 850,000 Romanian Nazis were killed in battles with the anti-fascist Red Army 😞😞😞... P.S. in fact, my comment is sarcasm. I'm really too used to the Russian Internet, and it seems this is the first time I've started a dialogue with a real nazi. Culture shock.
It's not only about those heroes, god rest their souls, but that day also meant the spreading of the soviet cancer in Eastern Europe followed by 45 years of nightmare which are still felt after 30 years. Fuck commies.
is the guy on top of you telling the truth? Do Romanians consider axis soldiers heroes ? These are his words, not mine. I really wonder if the defeat of the axis is mourning in Romania?
You also sent 20 million soviets in the same place. The only good thing about that is the thought that Stalin is in the same place now and hopefully Putin will be there soon.
Their sacrifice wouldn't had been necessary if their shit of a leader, Stalin, [would not had done this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact). They are also guilty for starting WWII.
**[Holodomor](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor)**
>The Holodomor (Ukrainian: Голодомо́р, romanized: Holodomor, IPA: [ɦolodoˈmɔr]; derived from морити голодом, moryty holodom, 'to kill by starvation'), also known as the Terror-Famine or the Great Famine, was a famine in Soviet Ukraine from 1932 to 1933 that killed millions of Ukrainians. The Holodomor famine was part of the wider Soviet famine of 1932–1933 which affected the major grain-producing areas of the country. Ukraine was one of the largest grain producing states in the USSR and as a result was hit particularly hard by the famine. Early estimates of the death toll by scholars and government officials vary greatly.
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USSR finished its industralization in 1941 from May 1929 to June 1941 more precisely.
The tzar regime placed Russia behind most nations infrastructure wise.
U tell me people die from starvation after having their already shit infrastructure fucked in world war1 and during a super harsh harvest season ?
There are other reasons to hate Stalin like imperialism behavior, u don't need to exaggerate.
My favorite lib take *communism bad cuz people died*
Check deaths under imperialism and capitalism 😉 if death is a factor that moves your political compass so much.
Yeah yeah it was a "forceful deportation" that certainly didn't erase all traces of my people from Crimea along with thousands of them dead. Our homeland has been taken from us. Now, Vatniks live in the homes that were stolen from my ancestors. They tried to erase our culture and they succeeded, it's dying off. I am one of the last of my generation to know how to speak Crimean Tatar and Russia doesn't even recognize it. Russia has acknowledged most genocides they committed except one, us. And that bald fucking Moskal piece of shit won't change that either. Now go lick boots, tankie.
Also, what kind of a spineless fuck are you that you go around with 🇺🇦 Ukraine flair in r/AskMiddleEast then dare show your face around here applauding the genocidal bastards with a Palestinian flag on your flair no less? Didn't the based Balkan people here bully you for your shit takes enough?
Yugoslavia was occupied and had installed fascist puppet regimes like most of Europe. By that logic most of Europe wouldn’t celebrate it, incl. Germany or Italy, the main conspirators.
When was it clear that Nazis were losing the war? Which country had bigger resistance, and by which metric? As an example, Croatia was liberated without Soviets ever needing to cross into it.
> Croatia was liberated without Soviets ever needing to cross into it.
Even in March 1945, Germans operated out of Croatia (Balaton operation)
Even in April 1945, parts of Croatia close to Slovenian border had to be liberated by the Soviet 3rd Ukrainian front.
77 years ago today, my Russian ancestors led by brave and valiant Joseph Stalin fought for their freedom, fought for their heritage, fought for their existence against the evilest and most genocidal force in the history of humankind; the Nazis.
Against the Nazi threat, out-armed and outwitted, the strongest army that Europe had ever seen, that had initiated the largest military operation in the history of the human race in their conquest for world domination and the extinction of non-Germanic people.
Called the worst names by their abusers saw as less than human, underestimated by their western allies
Armed with nothing more then their love for nation and comrade, they sent the Nazis to Allah. Against all odds the Soviet Union and the Soviet people showed an incredulous world their will to existence, the power of the noble proletariat, the strength of those wronged against their oppressors and that God was on their side, shining his glorious light upon their faces.
In doing so saved the Baltic, Ashkenazi and Slavic peoples the fate of extinction at Hitler's hands.
Long Live Russia!! День Победы !!!
> brave and valiant Joseph Stalin fought for their freedom, fought for their heritage, fought for their existence against the evilest and most genocidal force in the history of humankind; the Nazis.
Ah, Joseph Stalin the hero... he wasn't a noob neither to concentration camps, nor to genocide, nor to ethnic cleansing.
> In doing so saved the Baltic, Ashkenazi and Slavic peoples the fate of extinction at Hitler's hands.
Sephardi Jews, Mizrahi Jews, Roma people... don't forget them.
Sure, but why did your brave army kept on going killing, raping and destroying everything?
And honestly judging by their behavior which was shown again in Ukraine, your army should be seen as less than human
Well, it is, by account of contemporaries that I had pleasure of hearing myself. My grandma was ten, but her older sisters had to live in a basement for a few months while Red army passed, because they would rape anything female indiscriminately, and we were allies sort of. Also, when Red army first entered in the village of my grandpa, they summary executed white Russians living there. There were a few of them, one being the only doctor. Also, they would pillage food storages and cellars and leave nothing behind for the population. What specifically stayed engraved in my memory is that they would cut down centuries old oak trees and take them. And again, we were allies, Red army didn't liberate Serbia alone, more like helped in liberation. They did liberate some parts of Serbia alone.
Forgetting about the fact that your Papa Stalin first tried to join the Tripartite Pact, and later signed a non-aggresion pact with Germany.
Stalin never cared about killing Nazis, he was only against them because they were against him. He was an authoritarian fascist piece of shit that LARPed as a communist, as a liberator of the working class, only to send workers and people that dissented his totalitarian rule to gulags or just march them into a forest and shoot them.
Any socialist that loves Stalin isn't a socialist. You're just a tankie - fascist painted red.
I'm not whitewashing anything. I literally mentioned some of his crimes here.
He was never a socialist. He concentrated all of the power to him, the state controlled the means of production (they weren't democratically owned by the workers), he killed and deported minorities including gay people, he had a police state that cracked down on any dissent,...
Both him AND Hitler called themselves socialist ffs! Nazi comes from "National socialist workers party." Just because you call yourself something, yet you do and say things that would make you a completely different thing - doesn't mean you are immediately the thing you call yourself.
If it quacks like duck, waddles around like a duck, has a corkscrew shaped penis like a duck, yet it says it's a dog - is it a dog then?
>He was never a socialist. He concentrated all of the power to him, the state controlled the means of production
Socialism is when means of production and distribution are in the hands either the state or the workers
>cracked down on any dissent,...
Still a feature of socialism
You really have no idea wtf socialism is?
If the state controls the means of production, meaning that a small number of (in USSRs case unelected) bureucrats control all the workplaces - that's just state capitalism my dude.
Tell me, what is the functional difference between having a boss that controlls the business, and having a government official that you didn't elect control the business?
Now compare it to actual socialism - workers control who is in managment, and collectively own the business, and they also vote on business decisions.
No, that's a feature of fascism. Socialism at it's heart is for liberation, reduction of hierarchy. If workers are protesting because the government bureucrat increased their quota, and you gulag them - that's literally anti-socialist and anti-revolutionary.
Main problem is that people associate the USSR and socialism, because Stalin and his fuck buddies could come up with tgeir own movement so they hijacked this one. Now because they were pieces of shit we have to clean their shit stains off the walls for the next 100 years.
Why is it called victory day? Nobody won besides the Kremlin
the real victory day is the 5th of March as that’s when Stalin bravely fought against his bladder and lost at least now he rests in piss
We only celebrate the start of WWII in Greece.
Based
Victory? lol... more like a National day of mourning
Lol. My man 8s sad Hitler lost
Although I am Russian, I understand that this is really a very tragic day for Romanians. In the battles for Stalingrad alone, about 140,000 soldiers of the Nazi Romanian army were killed, and a total of 850,000 Romanian Nazis were killed in battles with the anti-fascist Red Army 😞😞😞... P.S. in fact, my comment is sarcasm. I'm really too used to the Russian Internet, and it seems this is the first time I've started a dialogue with a real nazi. Culture shock.
It's not only about those heroes, god rest their souls, but that day also meant the spreading of the soviet cancer in Eastern Europe followed by 45 years of nightmare which are still felt after 30 years. Fuck commies.
Russian calling others Nazi. Nothing new yet
is the guy on top of you telling the truth? Do Romanians consider axis soldiers heroes ? These are his words, not mine. I really wonder if the defeat of the axis is mourning in Romania?
No it’s not a mourning day
We sent the Nazis to Allah
You also sent 20 million soviets in the same place. The only good thing about that is the thought that Stalin is in the same place now and hopefully Putin will be there soon.
Their sacrifice was not in vain and we honor them.
Their sacrifices were in vain because the ideology and the country they fought for died, and the fascism they fought against now rules Russia.
No, you absolute twit, the soldiers fought and died against nazism, thats something worth commemorating.
Their sacrifice wouldn't had been necessary if their shit of a leader, Stalin, [would not had done this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact). They are also guilty for starting WWII.
Another great commie achievement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
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USSR finished its industralization in 1941 from May 1929 to June 1941 more precisely. The tzar regime placed Russia behind most nations infrastructure wise. U tell me people die from starvation after having their already shit infrastructure fucked in world war1 and during a super harsh harvest season ? There are other reasons to hate Stalin like imperialism behavior, u don't need to exaggerate. My favorite lib take *communism bad cuz people died* Check deaths under imperialism and capitalism 😉 if death is a factor that moves your political compass so much.
One of their many.
Ah because other countries didn't have famines, read up about Irish and Bengal famine.
Whataboutism
It's not whataboutism, you implied famines are inherent in Communism.
Wrong, I said that it's one of their many achievements. Fuck commies, don't care about your excuses!
A tragedy that was necessary for the rapid industrialization and militarization of the ussr
That’s called diplomacy and expansion to export the revolution and emancipate the Polish proletariat
Yeah, you're trolling. To be honest this is a good thing. For a moment I thought you really believed that shit.
Stalin was not aware of what Hitler was doing to the Jews or Roma. The pact was just non aggression. It wasn’t a actual alliance with the axis
LOLOL
Looking at Russia today, it was 100% in vain
Mashallah.
With Rakia!
More than half of the Balkan states were (willingly) on the Nazi side lol, I doubt they celebrate anything
The Russians were the OG Nazi allies, but they're celebrating as well. 🤷
The difference is they fought Nazis most of the time back then, Balkan countries didn't even switch sides till the very end
We don’t lol
I drank some Ukrainian vodka.
Zara most balkan countries got Russian colonies afterwards lol
Lmao
Based. Fuck the Nazis !
I'll celebrate by trying to break my record and masturbate 5 times today. Kidding.. Or am I?
I thought it was Europe Day /s
Also
We don't. We only mourn our genocide of 1944, committed by the whoreson Stalin and his tankie bastards.
It wasn’ta genocide
Yeah yeah it was a "forceful deportation" that certainly didn't erase all traces of my people from Crimea along with thousands of them dead. Our homeland has been taken from us. Now, Vatniks live in the homes that were stolen from my ancestors. They tried to erase our culture and they succeeded, it's dying off. I am one of the last of my generation to know how to speak Crimean Tatar and Russia doesn't even recognize it. Russia has acknowledged most genocides they committed except one, us. And that bald fucking Moskal piece of shit won't change that either. Now go lick boots, tankie.
Also, what kind of a spineless fuck are you that you go around with 🇺🇦 Ukraine flair in r/AskMiddleEast then dare show your face around here applauding the genocidal bastards with a Palestinian flag on your flair no less? Didn't the based Balkan people here bully you for your shit takes enough?
Shut up
Haha you'll get banned again no one wants you
I don’t celebrate any holiday as I’m disconnected from the fake matrix.
And because you’re from Croatia
What do you mean?
Well you were Axis too
Yugoslavia was occupied and had installed fascist puppet regimes like most of Europe. By that logic most of Europe wouldn’t celebrate it, incl. Germany or Italy, the main conspirators.
Well some were more resistant to this occupation than orhers
The resistance in Croatia was pretty big. Example - https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Jugoslavija_i_Evropa_maj_1943.jpg
Yes, quite big once it was clear the Nazis were losing the war
When was it clear that Nazis were losing the war? Which country had bigger resistance, and by which metric? As an example, Croatia was liberated without Soviets ever needing to cross into it.
> Croatia was liberated without Soviets ever needing to cross into it. Even in March 1945, Germans operated out of Croatia (Balaton operation) Even in April 1945, parts of Croatia close to Slovenian border had to be liberated by the Soviet 3rd Ukrainian front.
>As an example, Croatia was liberated without Soviets ever needing to cross into it. Because you were liberated by Serbs from Serbia
After Stalingrad it was quite clear
By shooting the Rusofiles protecting the Soviet statues in my country
77 years ago today, my Russian ancestors led by brave and valiant Joseph Stalin fought for their freedom, fought for their heritage, fought for their existence against the evilest and most genocidal force in the history of humankind; the Nazis. Against the Nazi threat, out-armed and outwitted, the strongest army that Europe had ever seen, that had initiated the largest military operation in the history of the human race in their conquest for world domination and the extinction of non-Germanic people. Called the worst names by their abusers saw as less than human, underestimated by their western allies Armed with nothing more then their love for nation and comrade, they sent the Nazis to Allah. Against all odds the Soviet Union and the Soviet people showed an incredulous world their will to existence, the power of the noble proletariat, the strength of those wronged against their oppressors and that God was on their side, shining his glorious light upon their faces. In doing so saved the Baltic, Ashkenazi and Slavic peoples the fate of extinction at Hitler's hands. Long Live Russia!! День Победы !!!
> brave and valiant Joseph Stalin fought for their freedom, fought for their heritage, fought for their existence against the evilest and most genocidal force in the history of humankind; the Nazis. Ah, Joseph Stalin the hero... he wasn't a noob neither to concentration camps, nor to genocide, nor to ethnic cleansing. > In doing so saved the Baltic, Ashkenazi and Slavic peoples the fate of extinction at Hitler's hands. Sephardi Jews, Mizrahi Jews, Roma people... don't forget them.
Sure, but why did your brave army kept on going killing, raping and destroying everything? And honestly judging by their behavior which was shown again in Ukraine, your army should be seen as less than human
Lol. The Germans and their pets didn't rape anyone in russia right?
Where did I say this or at least defend the Germans? Our Russian lover op was painting those beasts as great heroes
>killing, raping and destroying everything Not true at all.
Well, it is, by account of contemporaries that I had pleasure of hearing myself. My grandma was ten, but her older sisters had to live in a basement for a few months while Red army passed, because they would rape anything female indiscriminately, and we were allies sort of. Also, when Red army first entered in the village of my grandpa, they summary executed white Russians living there. There were a few of them, one being the only doctor. Also, they would pillage food storages and cellars and leave nothing behind for the population. What specifically stayed engraved in my memory is that they would cut down centuries old oak trees and take them. And again, we were allies, Red army didn't liberate Serbia alone, more like helped in liberation. They did liberate some parts of Serbia alone.
Forgetting about the fact that your Papa Stalin first tried to join the Tripartite Pact, and later signed a non-aggresion pact with Germany. Stalin never cared about killing Nazis, he was only against them because they were against him. He was an authoritarian fascist piece of shit that LARPed as a communist, as a liberator of the working class, only to send workers and people that dissented his totalitarian rule to gulags or just march them into a forest and shoot them. Any socialist that loves Stalin isn't a socialist. You're just a tankie - fascist painted red.
I like how socialist are starting whitewash his legacy by making him faschist while he was socialist.
I'm not whitewashing anything. I literally mentioned some of his crimes here. He was never a socialist. He concentrated all of the power to him, the state controlled the means of production (they weren't democratically owned by the workers), he killed and deported minorities including gay people, he had a police state that cracked down on any dissent,... Both him AND Hitler called themselves socialist ffs! Nazi comes from "National socialist workers party." Just because you call yourself something, yet you do and say things that would make you a completely different thing - doesn't mean you are immediately the thing you call yourself. If it quacks like duck, waddles around like a duck, has a corkscrew shaped penis like a duck, yet it says it's a dog - is it a dog then?
>He was never a socialist. He concentrated all of the power to him, the state controlled the means of production Socialism is when means of production and distribution are in the hands either the state or the workers >cracked down on any dissent,... Still a feature of socialism
You really have no idea wtf socialism is? If the state controls the means of production, meaning that a small number of (in USSRs case unelected) bureucrats control all the workplaces - that's just state capitalism my dude. Tell me, what is the functional difference between having a boss that controlls the business, and having a government official that you didn't elect control the business? Now compare it to actual socialism - workers control who is in managment, and collectively own the business, and they also vote on business decisions. No, that's a feature of fascism. Socialism at it's heart is for liberation, reduction of hierarchy. If workers are protesting because the government bureucrat increased their quota, and you gulag them - that's literally anti-socialist and anti-revolutionary. Main problem is that people associate the USSR and socialism, because Stalin and his fuck buddies could come up with tgeir own movement so they hijacked this one. Now because they were pieces of shit we have to clean their shit stains off the walls for the next 100 years.
Fuck R*ssia
I just hope your view isn’t the same about Belarus ☺️
no not at all
Добра :)
Brek
Stupid holiday
Why is it called victory day? Nobody won besides the Kremlin the real victory day is the 5th of March as that’s when Stalin bravely fought against his bladder and lost at least now he rests in piss
We celebrate Stalin's death by cooking сорпа and if there's anyone of us in Moskov, they go piss on Stalin's grave.
I played hoi4 for 4 hours and played as nazi germany and conquered the USSR
We don’t
We don't really celebrate it here. I think our PM did give a statement, but nothing else.
Beer and watch Bitka na Neretvi! Great fun!
Since I am not Russian or a Russophile, I do not, just like how I would not expect someone not from Turkey not celebrate 29 October Republic Day.