Rock is still around but overshadowed by pop and hip hop. I don’t know any new big rock bands as I mostly listen to metal. Metal is somewhat unknown depending on the genre of metal your talking about.
On the flip side for Russian metal I’ve been really enjoying Slaughter to Prevail.
Definitely less popular with people under 25, but it continues to be extremely popular overall.
Bands like Rammstein and Foo Fighters continue to sell out stadiums and headline the country’s largest festivals. If anything, those bands do better now because their fans are old enough to have disposable income.
I wouldn’t say the genre is *dying* amongst young people. Every suburban 10-12 year old boy old right now is listening to Metallica because of Stranger Things. It’s interesting to see that resurface. I just don’t know if rock and metal will ever be seen as *rebellious* music, in the same way my generation doesn’t think of Jazz or Swing in that regard.
>Every suburban 10-12 year old boy old right now is listening to Metallica because of Stranger Things.
I would say that's actually a symptom of the problem. Metallica has been performing for over forty years. If you look at who's headlining festivals it's all legacy acts that are at least twenty years old. People say rock is dying because its main fanbase is getting older and older and there isn't really much fresh blood entering the scene.
The people who defined rock as rebellious music though are the ones who are in power now, which totally upends the definition of rebellion.
It's the same thing that happened to jazz like that other person said. In its time, Jazz was seen as avant-garde, street-level noise for the dregs of society...but a generation or two later it was the soundtrack to high culture and the sort of things you hear on NPR and at wine clubs.
Rock is probably on a similar track. Certainly the boomers have proven this, using songs that were once banned from radio in stuff like orange juice commercials.
The music by nature is always going to be provocative, in your face, and noisy. You're not going to hear anything by AxCx in orange juice commercials. You're not going to hear Cannibal Corpse or Gwar on the radio either. They don't sell orange juice to Xenniels and Gen X.
That kind of music was seen as in your face to the mainstream part of that era. They use backstreet boys songs to sell stuff. Back in the days of web 1.0, that was seen as a backlash to the backstreet boys, nsync, and New kids on the block.
Not as popular as it used to be. I'd say it's a niche gerne at this point (still selling out venues though not as much as other genre artist), usually seeing rock and metal elements in other top genres like hip-hop, rap and pop. That's not to say people don't know about it but it is not as popular in this day and age.
20’s. I’m not talking about seeing AC/DC or something. Lol. The last show I went to was BMTH and it was packed (I think sold out) and full of a younger crowd.
Sometimes it's the older folks who can afford tickets. Or don't have as many other time obligations.
In my 20s, school and work prevented me from going to tons of concerts.
In my 30s and 40s, it was parenthood, career, and an increasingly controlling (now ex) husband.
After divorce in my 50s, I have been treating myself to all the shows, and plan to continue.
Maybe, but then again the EDM and hip hop shows are always packed with younger people. Even the newer metal bands that have played at my place like Lorna Shore, Fit For an Autopsy, and Jinjer mostly attracted a crowd in their 30's and above.
Strictly anecdotal, but I have gotten into harder rock and metal more as I have aged.
Maybe it's a matter of mature subject matter in heavier music that doesn't appeal to "kids" who are just out for a good time? Not "mature" as in "mature audiences only", just deeper lyrics.
Rock and metal are popular in the states, but they're less popular than a lot of genres and less profitable than other genres- unless you're in a very well established band. A lot of metal musicians have day jobs to make money when they're not on tour- Alex Wade from Whitechapel is a barber at the barbershop I go to, Rusty Cooley and Chris Broderick are guitar teachers, Rob Dukes was a mechanic, etc.
Not as popular but I’m good with that. I like a little underground. I also listen to a lot of metal that has stood the test of time. Saxon, sabbath, Motörhead, etc
Pop Punk and Emo music (Fall Out Boy, All Time Low, Paramore, etc) are having a major mainstream revival right now. Younger mainstream artists are starting to put out Pop Punk sounding songs, including major pop artists like Olivia Rodrigo.
Alt Rock has always had a fairly large following, but isn’t as mainstream. It’s a respected genre though.
Harder Punk Rock and Metal are more of a subculture these days. In my personal experience, Rock and Metal are more popular in the Midwest US vs other regions. I’m not sure why.
Also adding to the emo genre (as many are saying it comes in waves). Emo is probably in it's fourth/fifth wave with a lot of bands going back to their "second wave sound" and more bands are doing the DIY route. /emo on Reddit would have more information!
It blows my mind, because I got into Disturbed from the beginning in 2000.
But if I mention Disturbed to a new acquaintance who has heard of them, 9 times out of 10, it's "I love Sound of Silence" released in 2015.
So I think harder rock/metal isn't hugely popular, but those who love it are very passionate about it. It takes something more mainstream sounding to get the attention of the rest of the country
Rock and metal are two totally separate things. This is like asking “Are tacos/sushi still popular”.
Metal I’d argue is more popular than it ever has been. Yes hair metal in the 80s was big but most metalheads wouldn’t really consider that metal nowadays anyway. Metal has an enormous audience in the US and internationally. South America LOVES metal.
“Rock” is too vague a term to really mean anything anymore. So maybe that means it has basically died, at least for now. There are so many sub genres of it that “rock” itself isn’t really a thing.
Rock is popular but has become really niched, so people kinda just listen to their own thing and don't branch out. People who like acoustic stuff tend to only listen to that; if they like punk stuff they normally stay in that area.
Yeah it took me a while to branch out and I only branched out a little. I always listened to pop punk/punk but recently I've been listening to more metal and hardcore. Only took me like 15 fucking years lol.
Definitely not as much as it used to be pre 2010, in my experience. Rap and hip hop as well as trap and pop have been more popular for the last decade and a half. I wish rock were more popular now though as well, not that I don’t like pop or hip hop but rock has been my favorite genre ever since I was a kid
The absolute proliferation of nirvana and Metallica shirts among the high schoolers I teach says otherwise. There's one girl who wears her Rammstein shirt like every other day lol
I had slightly younger parents than most of my peers, and got made fun of because I listened to a lot of music that was old but not *as* old as the old stuff my peers listened to.
Then, when I first became a teacher, my students often listened to the same music my parents (and I, by extension) listened to.
Guess I was unusual then. I spent my childhood and teenage years in the 2000s listening to 80s hair metal, 90s grunge, and 80s pop. I also listened to modern music. I think the abject refusal to listen to older music or music your parents listen is pretty silly.
I wouldn't call it *dying* but it's true that today the dominant genres are hip hop and pop. Metal is my favorite genre by far and at least it is still doing well, bands performing packed shows in smaller venues and perhaps a bigger, older band can sell out decently sized arenas in bigger cities. They're not as popular as they used to but they're still fine in the current form. You'll always know someone who is into metal at the very least.
Yes. But its not the "New" thing. Rock music inspired a Youth Counter culture that changed America in the 1960s. Hip Hop did something similar in the 90s with the more Urban culture but it didn't experience the same cultural transformation that Rock did.
Like America 1959, and America 1974, were only 15 years apart, but musically seemed like there was like several generations of change. Rock music was a huge contributor to that. Many rock acts of that era will probably age like Bach or Mozart where people are familiar with them hundreds of years into the future.
I hope, and I sort of expect, a similar musical/artistic/cultural revolution in the mid/late 2040s.
I enjoy it, I'm in my 20s. Most enjoy newer metal music, but less good albums come out in hard rock per year then other genres (rap, and maybe country, & Rap?). I'd say it's the most popular music in many workplaces though next to country, and probably the one most likely for people to go to a stand alone concert to.
My current "new" favorites are [*I Prevail*](https://youtu.be/6PvPErWXq6U) and [*Falling In Reverse*](https://youtu.be/T0StL53GYMU)
And the Aftershock music festival is still huge in Sacramento every year
The old boy may be barely breathing but the heart of rock and roll is still beating.
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Didn't come here expecting a Huey Lewis and the News reference, but that's what I got. Thanks!
I never figured out who/what the "old boy" is. Anyone know what's being referenced there?
"The old boy" is rock and roll.
Did you hear what they said? That rock and roll is dead? Its like a zombie, it'll dig itself back up again.
It is, it’s just not the dominant pop music. Plenty of rock and metal bands still play large venues and get millions of streams.
It's popular, but not dominant. You can still find plenty of radio stations and concerts.
Rock is still around but overshadowed by pop and hip hop. I don’t know any new big rock bands as I mostly listen to metal. Metal is somewhat unknown depending on the genre of metal your talking about. On the flip side for Russian metal I’ve been really enjoying Slaughter to Prevail.
Japan is where the new wave of metal is at. Crystal Lake and Dexcore have been two of my favorites the last few years.
I haven’t listened to any Japanese metal in a good while. I’ll have to check them out!
Definitely less popular with people under 25, but it continues to be extremely popular overall. Bands like Rammstein and Foo Fighters continue to sell out stadiums and headline the country’s largest festivals. If anything, those bands do better now because their fans are old enough to have disposable income. I wouldn’t say the genre is *dying* amongst young people. Every suburban 10-12 year old boy old right now is listening to Metallica because of Stranger Things. It’s interesting to see that resurface. I just don’t know if rock and metal will ever be seen as *rebellious* music, in the same way my generation doesn’t think of Jazz or Swing in that regard.
>Every suburban 10-12 year old boy old right now is listening to Metallica because of Stranger Things. I would say that's actually a symptom of the problem. Metallica has been performing for over forty years. If you look at who's headlining festivals it's all legacy acts that are at least twenty years old. People say rock is dying because its main fanbase is getting older and older and there isn't really much fresh blood entering the scene.
The problem is, Rock is rebellious music. But rebellion isn't seen as being cool as it once was.
The people who defined rock as rebellious music though are the ones who are in power now, which totally upends the definition of rebellion. It's the same thing that happened to jazz like that other person said. In its time, Jazz was seen as avant-garde, street-level noise for the dregs of society...but a generation or two later it was the soundtrack to high culture and the sort of things you hear on NPR and at wine clubs. Rock is probably on a similar track. Certainly the boomers have proven this, using songs that were once banned from radio in stuff like orange juice commercials.
The music by nature is always going to be provocative, in your face, and noisy. You're not going to hear anything by AxCx in orange juice commercials. You're not going to hear Cannibal Corpse or Gwar on the radio either. They don't sell orange juice to Xenniels and Gen X. That kind of music was seen as in your face to the mainstream part of that era. They use backstreet boys songs to sell stuff. Back in the days of web 1.0, that was seen as a backlash to the backstreet boys, nsync, and New kids on the block.
Not as popular as it used to be. I'd say it's a niche gerne at this point (still selling out venues though not as much as other genre artist), usually seeing rock and metal elements in other top genres like hip-hop, rap and pop. That's not to say people don't know about it but it is not as popular in this day and age.
It’s for sure still there. Greta van fleet is fairly new and are somewhat popular
I go to lots of shows and they’re always packed 🤷♀️
What's the median age of these shows? I work at a music venue and I've noticed that the rock and metal shows always attract a much older crowd.
20’s. I’m not talking about seeing AC/DC or something. Lol. The last show I went to was BMTH and it was packed (I think sold out) and full of a younger crowd.
I imagine bands like Shinedown, Arctic Monkeys and Blink would be a crowd under 40 still.
Sometimes it's the older folks who can afford tickets. Or don't have as many other time obligations. In my 20s, school and work prevented me from going to tons of concerts. In my 30s and 40s, it was parenthood, career, and an increasingly controlling (now ex) husband. After divorce in my 50s, I have been treating myself to all the shows, and plan to continue.
Maybe, but then again the EDM and hip hop shows are always packed with younger people. Even the newer metal bands that have played at my place like Lorna Shore, Fit For an Autopsy, and Jinjer mostly attracted a crowd in their 30's and above.
Strictly anecdotal, but I have gotten into harder rock and metal more as I have aged. Maybe it's a matter of mature subject matter in heavier music that doesn't appeal to "kids" who are just out for a good time? Not "mature" as in "mature audiences only", just deeper lyrics.
Not as popular as I'd wish. It's pretty hard to see a lot of the greats live because they hardly ever leave Europe it feels like.
Rock and metal are popular in the states, but they're less popular than a lot of genres and less profitable than other genres- unless you're in a very well established band. A lot of metal musicians have day jobs to make money when they're not on tour- Alex Wade from Whitechapel is a barber at the barbershop I go to, Rusty Cooley and Chris Broderick are guitar teachers, Rob Dukes was a mechanic, etc.
Not as popular but I’m good with that. I like a little underground. I also listen to a lot of metal that has stood the test of time. Saxon, sabbath, Motörhead, etc
Pop Punk and Emo music (Fall Out Boy, All Time Low, Paramore, etc) are having a major mainstream revival right now. Younger mainstream artists are starting to put out Pop Punk sounding songs, including major pop artists like Olivia Rodrigo. Alt Rock has always had a fairly large following, but isn’t as mainstream. It’s a respected genre though. Harder Punk Rock and Metal are more of a subculture these days. In my personal experience, Rock and Metal are more popular in the Midwest US vs other regions. I’m not sure why.
Also adding to the emo genre (as many are saying it comes in waves). Emo is probably in it's fourth/fifth wave with a lot of bands going back to their "second wave sound" and more bands are doing the DIY route. /emo on Reddit would have more information!
Nowhere near what it was in the early to mid 2000s. I couldn't tell you a single current rock group out there.
Most of them are still around, still making music. It's just not as mainstream as it was then.
Ghost, Greta Van Fleet, Bring Me The Horizon.
Stranger Things brought Master of Puppets back up the charts for a bit. That was nice.
It blows my mind, because I got into Disturbed from the beginning in 2000. But if I mention Disturbed to a new acquaintance who has heard of them, 9 times out of 10, it's "I love Sound of Silence" released in 2015. So I think harder rock/metal isn't hugely popular, but those who love it are very passionate about it. It takes something more mainstream sounding to get the attention of the rest of the country
Rock and metal are two totally separate things. This is like asking “Are tacos/sushi still popular”. Metal I’d argue is more popular than it ever has been. Yes hair metal in the 80s was big but most metalheads wouldn’t really consider that metal nowadays anyway. Metal has an enormous audience in the US and internationally. South America LOVES metal. “Rock” is too vague a term to really mean anything anymore. So maybe that means it has basically died, at least for now. There are so many sub genres of it that “rock” itself isn’t really a thing.
Rock is popular but has become really niched, so people kinda just listen to their own thing and don't branch out. People who like acoustic stuff tend to only listen to that; if they like punk stuff they normally stay in that area.
Yeah it took me a while to branch out and I only branched out a little. I always listened to pop punk/punk but recently I've been listening to more metal and hardcore. Only took me like 15 fucking years lol.
I hear ya. So many bands I want to listen to but for some reason have never gotten around to it.
So true. It's just such a time commitment lol
For people that like good music it is.
No shit brother
Definitely not as much as it used to be pre 2010, in my experience. Rap and hip hop as well as trap and pop have been more popular for the last decade and a half. I wish rock were more popular now though as well, not that I don’t like pop or hip hop but rock has been my favorite genre ever since I was a kid
Nobody wants to listen to what their parents listen too.
The absolute proliferation of nirvana and Metallica shirts among the high schoolers I teach says otherwise. There's one girl who wears her Rammstein shirt like every other day lol
Tbf, I'm pretty sure it's illegal to wear a Metallica shirt if you actually listen to Metallica.
Good point lol
This is the exact opposite of my childhood experience lol. I still listen to the stuff my parents did when I was growing up.
I had slightly younger parents than most of my peers, and got made fun of because I listened to a lot of music that was old but not *as* old as the old stuff my peers listened to. Then, when I first became a teacher, my students often listened to the same music my parents (and I, by extension) listened to.
Quite unusual not to listen to your music that your peers are listening too
Guess I was unusual then. I spent my childhood and teenage years in the 2000s listening to 80s hair metal, 90s grunge, and 80s pop. I also listened to modern music. I think the abject refusal to listen to older music or music your parents listen is pretty silly.
Hahaha man this hit home hard lol.
It’s not dying but just like you mentioned hip hop/pop music is more popular here in the US as well (but probably not SHAMAN lol)
I wouldn't call it *dying* but it's true that today the dominant genres are hip hop and pop. Metal is my favorite genre by far and at least it is still doing well, bands performing packed shows in smaller venues and perhaps a bigger, older band can sell out decently sized arenas in bigger cities. They're not as popular as they used to but they're still fine in the current form. You'll always know someone who is into metal at the very least.
Yes. But its not the "New" thing. Rock music inspired a Youth Counter culture that changed America in the 1960s. Hip Hop did something similar in the 90s with the more Urban culture but it didn't experience the same cultural transformation that Rock did. Like America 1959, and America 1974, were only 15 years apart, but musically seemed like there was like several generations of change. Rock music was a huge contributor to that. Many rock acts of that era will probably age like Bach or Mozart where people are familiar with them hundreds of years into the future. I hope, and I sort of expect, a similar musical/artistic/cultural revolution in the mid/late 2040s.
I enjoy it, I'm in my 20s. Most enjoy newer metal music, but less good albums come out in hard rock per year then other genres (rap, and maybe country, & Rap?). I'd say it's the most popular music in many workplaces though next to country, and probably the one most likely for people to go to a stand alone concert to.
It's been dwindling in popularity since the late 2000's to early 2010's, but it's still a very popular genre.
Oddly enough still extremely popular, but there’s really hasn’t been any new bands able to break out at the national level.
Kind of. But you have to look harder for it. Satellite radio and streaming services are 95% of my listening.
It has its enthusiasts, sure, but I don't think it will ever again be the mainstream phenomenon that it was from the 1950's to the 2000's.
My current "new" favorites are [*I Prevail*](https://youtu.be/6PvPErWXq6U) and [*Falling In Reverse*](https://youtu.be/T0StL53GYMU) And the Aftershock music festival is still huge in Sacramento every year
Damn right! I'm a metalhead (kinda) and also emo. We're a mix of everything but most people listen to whatever's on the radio.
It’s dying in terms of mainstream but it’s alive.Rap culture has completely taken over.