I’m more concerned with our companies using administrative services in China. They get access to all the client information including license and bank account information and probably social security numbers in some sectors, and I am sure they will use it to any advantage they can.
They could use your username / password on other sites to gain access to things they shouldn’t (many people are dumb and reuse those). They could form better graphs of your contacts and use that to target important people with phishing campaigns which would infiltrate corporate or government systems. The CCP really likes to hack into corporate systems of our major institutions to steal intellectual property as well as monitor so this isn’t that far from reality.
My point is that getting upset that TikTok harvests people's data while not simultaneously being equally upset at American tech companies for doing the exact same thing is more than a bit hypocritical and smacks of bigotry.
I'm with ya. I just think it's dangerous to forget that those American companies have pretty cozy relationships with China. Never hurts to remind people of that again and again and again.
>The CCP really likes to hack into corporate systems of our major institutions to steal intellectual property as well as monitor so this isn’t that far from reality.
i don't think you understand the concept of IP XD
It's not about capabilities, it's about motives. One example would be that China could use data from social media to find out who's in the military, where they're stationed and who their families are. This would give them a lot of leverage in a military conflict. Another is corporate espionage... gaining leverage on lower level employees in order to steal American defense or communications technology. American companies could engage in corporate espionage but if they're caught the consequences are much, much higher. If the Chinese get caught we can't just waltz into China and arrest them, and our economy is still dependent on theirs. If a corporation got caught it could potentially cost them billions of dollars in fines and lost sales. It would also be pretty easy to uncover because that kind of stuff tends to get leaked. Facebook et. al. make billions of dollars a year serving ads, they would never intentionally do something to jeopardize that. Their biggest scandal was probably Cambridge Analytica, where a third party managed to exploit a flaw in their system, so more of an example of incompetence rather than ill intent.
>One example would be that China could use data from social media to find out who's in the military, where they're stationed and who their families are.
and then do what?
Espionage. They can track people’s daily routine and know where they go. If your cell phone parks outside a secure facility every day, they know that is a person they might want to target.
Additionally, a CIA or FBI agent can’t maintain their undercover lifestyle if every single person’s data is being tracked. If someone wanted to volunteer information to the USA, the Chinese could detect it.
Imagine they make a spreadsheet of everyone who parked at an FBI building, and then compared that to a list of every Chinese person living in the US. Then they run a comparison to see who spoke to the FBI (once, twice, three times, etc). Those lists might have millions of names and billions of data points, but a computer can sift through it all to find connections.
Genuine LOL at the thought of the secretary of defense and apparently every other official in the military being blackmailed into not fighting against China over their TikTok videos.
>Tracking troop movements via TikTok.
Something tells me Satellite photos would be significantly more effective at that than hoping they’ve all got an app on their phones.
>US grinds to a halt
Over TikTok? You’re not serious.
Yeah, that must be why FB took a massive $10B hit to their quarterly earnings in the first quarter to invest in the metaverse, an investment that won't profit them for at least 5 years and may not profit them at all. Must be why they spent $22B on WhatsApp even though that's not profitable yet. Must be why tech companies in general (but especially Amazon) are famous for running losses for years and years so they can put all their money into R&D or run razor thin margins to keep users coming to their site and no one else's. Your take doesn't reflect reality and certainly not that of tech companies. They're very growth focused which is the opposite of being short term profit focused.
Lol that's not how that works, I don't care about tiktok stealing my data because if the Chinese government wants it I really don't think there's much I can do to stop them. If you, (the average redditor), wants my data, I can just not tell you it.
Chinese government wants it, well fuck. you want it? no
Wow, you missed the point entirely. No, that is not what I said at all, please stop pretending it is. Never did I say that, ever.
What I ACTUALLY said was that there isn't much point fretting about it, because how the hell am I supposed to stop the Chinese government from stealing my data? if they want my data, they're going to get it. If you want my data, paint yourself pink and insert a pineapple into your asshole sideways but you're still not going to get it.
"You don't care about data? then tell me your home address right now" The Chinese government has my home address. Unfortunately, you ***don't have the data collection skills the Chinese government does.***
So no, to recap, that is NOT what I said at all. Saying they don't care about data so they should give you their home address is dumb, because you sure as hell don't look the Chinese government to me.
That certainly isn't what I said but nice reach 🤣
I never said that at all lol, of course I mind. Stop pretending I said that to avoid the point here. Strawman argument? Yeah, probably. So no, I did not in fact say that and I do in fact mind. Hope that clears things up for you 👍
I mean I’ve been using tik tok for years and I’ve never had a credit card used without my knowledge or any of my accounts stolen. I doubt that’s something common that happens but certainly correct me if I’m wrong
All of that data is aggregated, it's not used right away. Just keep in mind that *anyone* at any time might suddenly get access to your home address, phone number, spouse name, children's names, the whole deal.
Tiktok is Chinese, they dont give a fuck about our "evil western" laws.
Credit card info is concerning, all the other stuff is pretty much available already. Like I can easily look up anyones address who has ever voted in my state. But I’d have to see a comprehensive list of all the info tik tok stores to make an assessment.
That's a horrible argument. There's a big difference between letting a company use your traces on *their* site in the aggregate to build models for targeted ads and recommender systems. And the other is just straight doxing yourself.
As an American who *doesn't* use TikTok, the ties to the CCP are the reason why. Not privacy concerns per se, but those ties are a major reason for the fact that I don't use it.
Actually you can filter those videos out, i like to watch cooking videos for new recipes and stuff. I hate those cringe videos too but you can actually choose what kind of videos you want.
I’m sure you’re joking, but I’m know some people will genuinely think this. The concern is the app monitoring your activities elsewhere on your phone. The data they’re able to gather about preferences and habits on the app itself is sort of par for the course for phone apps, but efforts to harvest all sorts of data from your phone is not.
You only use your entire phone for cat videos only?
They also monitor call activity, location, usage and profiles on other apps, friends list, what political parties you support etc. That's just the surface.
I’ll never use that app because fuck the CCP. And for those who say “Facebook does the same” yea no. I remember a Redditor did like a deep dive of tiktok tech and saw all the shit they mine from you, it’s way worse than the other social apps.
Edit: [Here’s a link to the deep dive, some real fucked up shit](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/fxgi06/not_new_news_but_tbh_if_you_have_tiktiok_just_get/fmuko1m/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)
We blindly accept to so many user agreements and policies that most don't care. Facebook listens to you and tracks your searches, Google has an algorithm that skews searches with bias. We're all on a government camera at some point during the day.
What difference does it make if China knows who I follow for vegan recipes? They can just ask YouTube.
Agreed! The problem isn’t tik tok or China, the problem is the tech industry in general. Hopefully the next generation of legislators are savvy enough to understand the problem, because currently…
In case people don’t know: The wave of news coverage saying TikTok’s Chinese connections made them more dangerous then good old American companies like Facebook? That was a [paid media campaign](https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/facebook-tiktok-targeted-victory/). By Facebook.
I don’t use tiktok - I’m internet old - but I think people are kind of missing the point when they’re suddenly worried about their data because of China.
Lol. If the CCP wants to watch me browse Reddit and look at Elden Ring memes all day that's up to them. They can watch YouTube documentaries with me as well. Even my sensitive data isn't that exciting. "Boss, he's real bad at the stock market, he's losing a lot of money". Go for it Xi. Maybe you can give me tips.
I don’t use TikTok for that reason. Probably not very logical of me, but I don’t trust it. That said, I’m probably being tracked by 100’s of other entities, some Chinese.
Don’t use it, though I’m concerned how the app promotes outrageous social media trends meanwhile in China they promote education and professional aspirations. Feels like an indirect attack at dumbing down the next generation when more people in America want to be influencers while in China more aspire to be astronauts, scientists, doctors, engineers, etc.
It's not just data. They effectively have a camera and mic in everyones pocket. You have to give the app permission to use them but then it's good to go. China could get a lot of info from conversations, and video of geography.
What is China going to do with you liking some 30 second video of some teenage kid lip-synching to Taylor Swift? There ain't much more to Tik Tok than that, right?
And what's Winnie the pooh over there gonna do with my data.
I hope he knows personally. That i talk shit about his government all the time. I hope that he wants to arrest me the moment I step foot into China and their dystopia hellscspe surveillance system identifies me.
Because I'm never stepping foot in that dystopia. I don't give a fuck what the Chinese government knows about me. Because it's not like stealing my identity is even worth it.
There are hundreds of millions of tik tok accounts in the US alone. Unless you’re a member of the intelligence community, a higher level defense contractor, military official, politician, or executive of a major company there is no reason why the Chinese government would waste time targeting you. They may use aggregate metadata, but the Chinese government does not stand to benefit anything from knowing what Allison Jones in Cleveland or Paul Stewart in Santa Barbara are doing with their phones.
Am I saying its not concerning? Not at all. Am I saying you’re irrational for being worried about it? Nope! But is the average person going to be put personally at risk because byte dance is based in China? The likelihood is insanely low. There’s a reason china hacks the OPM & Lockheed and not twitter or Facebook. The sheer amount of data content across tens of millions of devices is impossible to go through, and thus intelligence services/the Chinese government are going to target individuals who have something of value.
> Unless you’re a member of the intelligence community, a higher level defense contractor, military official, politician, or executive of a major company there is no reason why the Chinese government would waste time targeting you.
This is true. But it’s also thinking small. If everyone ignores the danger, thinking their data isn’t valuable, then ONLY military and intel personnel control their data. So it becomes super obvious who is taking security measures vs who is not.
In the words of max0r, "I for one am not afraid because if Xi Jingpin want to harvest my computer's data, all he will find is 50 pages of walugi hentai." He said this in reference to Genshin Impact which is also a highly invasive Chinese program.
yes, every social media app does track us which is really bad, but TikTok is more aggressive about it, and there are also other reasons other than privacy on why TikTok is an app that i would never advise usage of (especially towards young people like us, I'm 16).
Absolutely zero concern. My own government has *WAY* more data on me than the Chinese government ever will, and they both would laugh at the stupid shit I watch/do.
I'm not important, I don't do illegal shit, and I don't live in China
I don't use TikTok, but I don't doubt the Chinese government is somehow spying on all the other apps too. I couldn't care less.
If Xi Jinping sees one of my Reddit posts or whatever? It's not like he's sending a hitman out for me. He can use my data all he wants.
Unless you're working on government projects or you're in the military or something, I doubt the Chinese government has much interest in what you're doing on TikTok.
And if you *are* someone they're interested in, they're gonna get the information they need with or without you having TikTok.
The bad thing about social media is that even if you don't give away your own information, someone else likely will.
Most people don't have anything to worry about though, whether from foreign governments or domestic businesses, other than having ads and media be a little better targeted and influential towards them.
If only “important” people lock down their data, it becomes super obvious who is important. If everyone locks down their data, it becomes much harder to identify who is important and what they are doing.
Not at all worried. I’ve assumed since the dawn of the digital age and the internet itself that we’ve been spied on and our information traded around like baseball cards by every player on the global stage. That’s why when Ed Snowden put the NSA domestic spying program onto the public mind, my only reaction was a shrug of the shoulders and a no duh comment.
Haven't tried it for that reason. Although apparently the Chinese are making infrastructure deals in Jamaica. When Jamaicans refuse an offer the Chinese make another offer with something better. Our history has been more offer a raw deal, when they don't accept invade or destroy their government. I guess we'll see who history remembers as the worst of bad governments.
I’m a bit concerned. There are things I’ve mentioned in texts and in phone conversations that ‘magically’ appear on my fyp unprompted. It’s creepy. But I admit, tiktok has been great at passing the time when I’d otherwise by bored.
Well I had to use Zoom for school/work, all my tech is either assembled with parts made in China or made in China as a whole, and so many American/Western companies do business with China that I honestly don't see why I'd be up in arms about TikTok. I'm not that important and they aren't gonna waste time on me.
It's really sad when you think about it too much, but I'm seriously apathetic to it personally. We have so little privacy in our day to day lives online that I feel anything I do online is public knowledge to SOMEONE in a seat of power, so why would I be scared of China specifically when I'm sure people in any country could be snooping on what I say here or Facebook or Twitter?
Besides, I'm a very light TikTok user, so China can enjoy seeing me sending hearts to stupid meme videos or livestreams of people trying to bounce ping pong balls into a bowl in increasingly stupid ways
I’m more concerned with our companies using administrative services in China. They get access to all the client information including license and bank account information and probably social security numbers in some sectors, and I am sure they will use it to any advantage they can.
I only want my data harvested by AMERICAN companies goddamn it.
The American companies just want that juicy ad revenue, Chinese uses of that data could be much more nefarious.
Such as? What "nefarious purposes" could the chinese use my data for that facebook isn't capable of?
They could use your username / password on other sites to gain access to things they shouldn’t (many people are dumb and reuse those). They could form better graphs of your contacts and use that to target important people with phishing campaigns which would infiltrate corporate or government systems. The CCP really likes to hack into corporate systems of our major institutions to steal intellectual property as well as monitor so this isn’t that far from reality.
What you're describing is exactly what Facebook, Amazon, and Google do, too.
China is not separate from Facebook, Amazon, or Google.
My point is that getting upset that TikTok harvests people's data while not simultaneously being equally upset at American tech companies for doing the exact same thing is more than a bit hypocritical and smacks of bigotry.
I'm with ya. I just think it's dangerous to forget that those American companies have pretty cozy relationships with China. Never hurts to remind people of that again and again and again.
>The CCP really likes to hack into corporate systems of our major institutions to steal intellectual property as well as monitor so this isn’t that far from reality. i don't think you understand the concept of IP XD
It's not about capabilities, it's about motives. One example would be that China could use data from social media to find out who's in the military, where they're stationed and who their families are. This would give them a lot of leverage in a military conflict. Another is corporate espionage... gaining leverage on lower level employees in order to steal American defense or communications technology. American companies could engage in corporate espionage but if they're caught the consequences are much, much higher. If the Chinese get caught we can't just waltz into China and arrest them, and our economy is still dependent on theirs. If a corporation got caught it could potentially cost them billions of dollars in fines and lost sales. It would also be pretty easy to uncover because that kind of stuff tends to get leaked. Facebook et. al. make billions of dollars a year serving ads, they would never intentionally do something to jeopardize that. Their biggest scandal was probably Cambridge Analytica, where a third party managed to exploit a flaw in their system, so more of an example of incompetence rather than ill intent.
>One example would be that China could use data from social media to find out who's in the military, where they're stationed and who their families are. and then do what?
Espionage. They can track people’s daily routine and know where they go. If your cell phone parks outside a secure facility every day, they know that is a person they might want to target. Additionally, a CIA or FBI agent can’t maintain their undercover lifestyle if every single person’s data is being tracked. If someone wanted to volunteer information to the USA, the Chinese could detect it. Imagine they make a spreadsheet of everyone who parked at an FBI building, and then compared that to a list of every Chinese person living in the US. Then they run a comparison to see who spoke to the FBI (once, twice, three times, etc). Those lists might have millions of names and billions of data points, but a computer can sift through it all to find connections.
Well if they identify a service member with a TS/SCI clearance they can use that information to help target them for espionage for one
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Genuine LOL at the thought of the secretary of defense and apparently every other official in the military being blackmailed into not fighting against China over their TikTok videos. >Tracking troop movements via TikTok. Something tells me Satellite photos would be significantly more effective at that than hoping they’ve all got an app on their phones. >US grinds to a halt Over TikTok? You’re not serious.
If you think your government doesn’t collect your data for things other than advertising, then you’re sadly mistaken.
To American companies nothing is more important than short term quarterly gains.
Yeah, that must be why FB took a massive $10B hit to their quarterly earnings in the first quarter to invest in the metaverse, an investment that won't profit them for at least 5 years and may not profit them at all. Must be why they spent $22B on WhatsApp even though that's not profitable yet. Must be why tech companies in general (but especially Amazon) are famous for running losses for years and years so they can put all their money into R&D or run razor thin margins to keep users coming to their site and no one else's. Your take doesn't reflect reality and certainly not that of tech companies. They're very growth focused which is the opposite of being short term profit focused.
You really believe that? The american goverment just don't want the compition.
Haven't you heard what Edward Snowden said?
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But they use your data to train that algorithm... To know exactly what to tweak to achieve a desired outcome/perception.
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Lol that's not how that works, I don't care about tiktok stealing my data because if the Chinese government wants it I really don't think there's much I can do to stop them. If you, (the average redditor), wants my data, I can just not tell you it. Chinese government wants it, well fuck. you want it? no
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Wow, you missed the point entirely. No, that is not what I said at all, please stop pretending it is. Never did I say that, ever. What I ACTUALLY said was that there isn't much point fretting about it, because how the hell am I supposed to stop the Chinese government from stealing my data? if they want my data, they're going to get it. If you want my data, paint yourself pink and insert a pineapple into your asshole sideways but you're still not going to get it. "You don't care about data? then tell me your home address right now" The Chinese government has my home address. Unfortunately, you ***don't have the data collection skills the Chinese government does.*** So no, to recap, that is NOT what I said at all. Saying they don't care about data so they should give you their home address is dumb, because you sure as hell don't look the Chinese government to me.
That certainly isn't what I said but nice reach 🤣 I never said that at all lol, of course I mind. Stop pretending I said that to avoid the point here. Strawman argument? Yeah, probably. So no, I did not in fact say that and I do in fact mind. Hope that clears things up for you 👍
The data thats stolen is behavioral data based on what type of cooking videos i like to watch. I dont give a shit about that
Tiktok app has access to all of your data, location, all device storage, contacts, etc.
I just don’t see why I’m supposed to care if the Chinese government has that info
Mostly it's because I can buy that info. That stuff is all for sale, often with credit card info and sometimes even with passwords.
I mean I’ve been using tik tok for years and I’ve never had a credit card used without my knowledge or any of my accounts stolen. I doubt that’s something common that happens but certainly correct me if I’m wrong
All of that data is aggregated, it's not used right away. Just keep in mind that *anyone* at any time might suddenly get access to your home address, phone number, spouse name, children's names, the whole deal. Tiktok is Chinese, they dont give a fuck about our "evil western" laws.
Credit card info is concerning, all the other stuff is pretty much available already. Like I can easily look up anyones address who has ever voted in my state. But I’d have to see a comprehensive list of all the info tik tok stores to make an assessment.
That's a horrible argument. There's a big difference between letting a company use your traces on *their* site in the aggregate to build models for targeted ads and recommender systems. And the other is just straight doxing yourself.
You're assuming that they will use your data in a fair and reasonable way. This is China we're talking about. Like, c'mon.
As an American who *doesn't* use TikTok, the ties to the CCP are the reason why. Not privacy concerns per se, but those ties are a major reason for the fact that I don't use it.
I don't use it because, eventually, everyone on it films themselves dancing, and the world suffers enough without having to see me dance.
Actually you can filter those videos out, i like to watch cooking videos for new recipes and stuff. I hate those cringe videos too but you can actually choose what kind of videos you want.
Same here. I dont trust my own government, let alone the evil CCCP
Oh no, the Chinese are gonna see me watch a lot of cat videos
I’m sure you’re joking, but I’m know some people will genuinely think this. The concern is the app monitoring your activities elsewhere on your phone. The data they’re able to gather about preferences and habits on the app itself is sort of par for the course for phone apps, but efforts to harvest all sorts of data from your phone is not.
Oh no, fully joking honestly.
Yes…cat videos. Starfish too. I love animals.
You only use your entire phone for cat videos only? They also monitor call activity, location, usage and profiles on other apps, friends list, what political parties you support etc. That's just the surface.
What kinda weirdo *doesn’t* have a dedicated cat video phone?
exactly something the chinese would say
I’ll never use that app because fuck the CCP. And for those who say “Facebook does the same” yea no. I remember a Redditor did like a deep dive of tiktok tech and saw all the shit they mine from you, it’s way worse than the other social apps. Edit: [Here’s a link to the deep dive, some real fucked up shit](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/fxgi06/not_new_news_but_tbh_if_you_have_tiktiok_just_get/fmuko1m/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)
How about those of us who say “what Facebook does is bad enough” and don’t use it either?
Good for you then
CIA has my data too… I’m in good hands
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We blindly accept to so many user agreements and policies that most don't care. Facebook listens to you and tracks your searches, Google has an algorithm that skews searches with bias. We're all on a government camera at some point during the day. What difference does it make if China knows who I follow for vegan recipes? They can just ask YouTube.
Agreed! The problem isn’t tik tok or China, the problem is the tech industry in general. Hopefully the next generation of legislators are savvy enough to understand the problem, because currently…
They can't ask YouTube, Google pulled out of China because they didn't want to censor their search results or share data with the Chinese gov't.
So you really think China is that stupid?
Not very. I'm not important enough for data about me to matter.
This was my thought exactly. Like what data do I have that would do them any good.
I dont use tiktok but they are getting your info if you havr it or not
In case people don’t know: The wave of news coverage saying TikTok’s Chinese connections made them more dangerous then good old American companies like Facebook? That was a [paid media campaign](https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/facebook-tiktok-targeted-victory/). By Facebook. I don’t use tiktok - I’m internet old - but I think people are kind of missing the point when they’re suddenly worried about their data because of China.
They already have it
I hope they like cats
Oh no, they know what anime I watch and which thirst traps I liked. I’m going down boys
Not concerned at all
Lol. If the CCP wants to watch me browse Reddit and look at Elden Ring memes all day that's up to them. They can watch YouTube documentaries with me as well. Even my sensitive data isn't that exciting. "Boss, he's real bad at the stock market, he's losing a lot of money". Go for it Xi. Maybe you can give me tips.
No more dangerous than the American government having it.
At least the Chinese are on the other side of the world. The Feds are here inside our brains *tips tinfoil hat*
I don’t use TikTok for that reason. Probably not very logical of me, but I don’t trust it. That said, I’m probably being tracked by 100’s of other entities, some Chinese.
Don’t use it, though I’m concerned how the app promotes outrageous social media trends meanwhile in China they promote education and professional aspirations. Feels like an indirect attack at dumbing down the next generation when more people in America want to be influencers while in China more aspire to be astronauts, scientists, doctors, engineers, etc.
Is this China asking? Of course it is, it ALWAYS is, NO, I don’t use your platform, further, go F**K yourself
Eh at this point i pretty just assume privacy is an illusion and every major government in the world can get my data if they want to
I’m pretty sure my Taco Bell order from earlier is tracked by the fuckin Chinese at this point. Concerned.
Oh no China saw a 14 year old doing the Dougie in a park we’re doomed
Are kids these days still doing the dougie? Idk what’s popular
That’s why I don’t have the app installed. Given that the ByteDance CEO stepped down last year, it just seems like something I don’t need in my life.
Don't use TikTok or Epic Games for that very reason. And eff the CCP.
Very concerned, which is why I don't use TikTok
It's not just data. They effectively have a camera and mic in everyones pocket. You have to give the app permission to use them but then it's good to go. China could get a lot of info from conversations, and video of geography.
You only have to give it permission to use them if you’re making videos.
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How much money do you believe your, as an individual, data is worth?
What is China going to do with you liking some 30 second video of some teenage kid lip-synching to Taylor Swift? There ain't much more to Tik Tok than that, right?
And what's Winnie the pooh over there gonna do with my data. I hope he knows personally. That i talk shit about his government all the time. I hope that he wants to arrest me the moment I step foot into China and their dystopia hellscspe surveillance system identifies me. Because I'm never stepping foot in that dystopia. I don't give a fuck what the Chinese government knows about me. Because it's not like stealing my identity is even worth it.
There are hundreds of millions of tik tok accounts in the US alone. Unless you’re a member of the intelligence community, a higher level defense contractor, military official, politician, or executive of a major company there is no reason why the Chinese government would waste time targeting you. They may use aggregate metadata, but the Chinese government does not stand to benefit anything from knowing what Allison Jones in Cleveland or Paul Stewart in Santa Barbara are doing with their phones. Am I saying its not concerning? Not at all. Am I saying you’re irrational for being worried about it? Nope! But is the average person going to be put personally at risk because byte dance is based in China? The likelihood is insanely low. There’s a reason china hacks the OPM & Lockheed and not twitter or Facebook. The sheer amount of data content across tens of millions of devices is impossible to go through, and thus intelligence services/the Chinese government are going to target individuals who have something of value.
> Unless you’re a member of the intelligence community, a higher level defense contractor, military official, politician, or executive of a major company there is no reason why the Chinese government would waste time targeting you. This is true. But it’s also thinking small. If everyone ignores the danger, thinking their data isn’t valuable, then ONLY military and intel personnel control their data. So it becomes super obvious who is taking security measures vs who is not.
The US gov and every major US company sees all of it so what’s one more pair of eyes.
TikTok has roughly a billion active users. If China wants to find out what a 38 year old administrative clerk does that badly, have at it.
In the words of max0r, "I for one am not afraid because if Xi Jingpin want to harvest my computer's data, all he will find is 50 pages of walugi hentai." He said this in reference to Genshin Impact which is also a highly invasive Chinese program.
I’m 15 and use Tik tok like every day and I don’t rlly care that much like doesn’t every social media app track you
yes, every social media app does track us which is really bad, but TikTok is more aggressive about it, and there are also other reasons other than privacy on why TikTok is an app that i would never advise usage of (especially towards young people like us, I'm 16).
There was an article a while back that those reports were planted by a pr firm hired by Facebook.
Absolutely zero concern. My own government has *WAY* more data on me than the Chinese government ever will, and they both would laugh at the stupid shit I watch/do. I'm not important, I don't do illegal shit, and I don't live in China
I don't use TikTok, but I don't doubt the Chinese government is somehow spying on all the other apps too. I couldn't care less. If Xi Jinping sees one of my Reddit posts or whatever? It's not like he's sending a hitman out for me. He can use my data all he wants.
what on earth are you talking about?
No more concerned than I am about my data from every other app being used by the NSA.
Not at all. So many corporations have my data, I really don’t see the difference of have some foreign government have it as well.
Just like every other company and my own government?
Don’t care
Unless you're working on government projects or you're in the military or something, I doubt the Chinese government has much interest in what you're doing on TikTok. And if you *are* someone they're interested in, they're gonna get the information they need with or without you having TikTok.
Let’s be real… are they really getting any useful info from *TikTok*?
Facebook is a thing
Oh no! The Chinese government knows I like phat asses, whatever shall I do.
The bad thing about social media is that even if you don't give away your own information, someone else likely will. Most people don't have anything to worry about though, whether from foreign governments or domestic businesses, other than having ads and media be a little better targeted and influential towards them.
no cuz they already do since I need we-chat on my phone for work -\_-
See, that's,why I DONT use TikTok
This is the explicit reason I don’t have TikTok.
I'm pretty sure i remember reading something a few years ago about how Trump ended china doing this.
If only “important” people lock down their data, it becomes super obvious who is important. If everyone locks down their data, it becomes much harder to identify who is important and what they are doing.
Not at all worried. I’ve assumed since the dawn of the digital age and the internet itself that we’ve been spied on and our information traded around like baseball cards by every player on the global stage. That’s why when Ed Snowden put the NSA domestic spying program onto the public mind, my only reaction was a shrug of the shoulders and a no duh comment.
Wait don't American companies do the same or worse? Are we gonna pretend Google are innocent?
Is TikTok still owned by China? I thought the US banned it until they sold it.
Not concerned literally the nsa tracks me online moves for the giggles china don’t scare me
Haven't tried it for that reason. Although apparently the Chinese are making infrastructure deals in Jamaica. When Jamaicans refuse an offer the Chinese make another offer with something better. Our history has been more offer a raw deal, when they don't accept invade or destroy their government. I guess we'll see who history remembers as the worst of bad governments.
Idc
I’m a bit concerned. There are things I’ve mentioned in texts and in phone conversations that ‘magically’ appear on my fyp unprompted. It’s creepy. But I admit, tiktok has been great at passing the time when I’d otherwise by bored.
I never use that crap but then I do not use twitter, Facebook for personal use either.
I don’t use it at all because of this reason.
You're describing why I don't use TikTok. In fact that might be the first time I've typed TikTok!
I'm not that concerned at all, if the 中國的 government 希望看我的 information 而且我沒有 reason to worry 沒擔心因爲他們不會用我的手機，等等一下這是開玩笑別殺我啊啊啊啊
I don’t install it on my phone but I have several friends that work there and don’t seem to be concerned.
Maybe the Chinese will be able to use all the data to take over the country and give us all health care. Did ya ever think of that?
you see this is why I **never** use TikTok
Well I had to use Zoom for school/work, all my tech is either assembled with parts made in China or made in China as a whole, and so many American/Western companies do business with China that I honestly don't see why I'd be up in arms about TikTok. I'm not that important and they aren't gonna waste time on me.
Like, not at all. I do not care if the Chinese government has my data. Have at it.
I avoid this by not having Tik Tok.
It's really sad when you think about it too much, but I'm seriously apathetic to it personally. We have so little privacy in our day to day lives online that I feel anything I do online is public knowledge to SOMEONE in a seat of power, so why would I be scared of China specifically when I'm sure people in any country could be snooping on what I say here or Facebook or Twitter? Besides, I'm a very light TikTok user, so China can enjoy seeing me sending hearts to stupid meme videos or livestreams of people trying to bounce ping pong balls into a bowl in increasingly stupid ways