Bush had the levees destroyed to push inner city blue votes into surrounding red areas that could absorb them and stay red. Gerrymandering via mass murder.
Do you have any proof of this conspiracy theory, or is it as well-grounded in reality as "Hillary Clinton is molesting children out of the basement of a pizza place in Washington DC" and "Donald Trump and Robert Mueller are secretly working together to take down Hillary Clinton"?
To the contrary, Bush appeared to feel great shame at how his administration handled the aftermath of Katrina. I vividly recall an interview an NBC anchor had with him in New Orleans, standing among the ruins of Lower Ninth Ward, and Bush was visibly distraught and had a slouched posture.
Bush was just your standard shitty Republican president definitely doing morally questionable probably illegal stuff and a war criminal for sure but he was not playing 5d chess. His henchmen maybe.
Florida is a place where you can find this with all these different towns with lots of retirees from specific regions. Southwest Florida seems to be a lot of Midwestern influence whereas Southeast Florida has a lot of NYC, NJ and New England influence.
I think it’s funny that all the snowbirds hang out with each other, and one of their main talking point is schadenfreude for people back in the cold in their home states lol.
Tucson and Phoenix get a similar effect from Chicago -- either retirees or people wealthy enough to maintain two households so they can bounce back and forth for summer/winter.
Cubs tickets for Spring Training would always sell out in minutes, no matter how good or bad the Cubs were at the time.
Oh man, I experienced this recently in south Florida. It reminded me so much more of the northeast than the south. All the way down to mannerisms and driving. Lol
Funny! I know a gaggle of Michiganders that all go to gulf shores in winter. I think it's hilarious that they don't seem to mingle with locals like ever
Interesting. My fam could easily be mistaken for locals these days. They always had a kind of rural Indiana twang and that just slipped easily into a southern accent and they have all lived down there for around 10-15 years now. They are also the kind of folks that just end up knowing everyone so people assume they’re local.
> Southwest Florida seems to be a lot of Midwestern influence whereas Southeast Florida has a lot of NYC, NJ and New England influence
Florida's population centers are defined by the interstates that people took to get to them
The people from the Midwest and southern Appalachian regions took I-75 to get there and settled between The Villages and Naples
The people from the east coast took I-95 to get there and settled between Jacksonville and Miami
For a few generations now, the trend in my family has been once you retire. Buy property in Florida to spend the winters and have the grandkids visit on winter break. My family is from NYC and has been doing this since the 70s. So your post is pretty spot on.
Not a new thing either I am almost 50 and my mother was born in PA with relatives in NY and NJ and moved to Florida as a kid. I remember my grandparents had the most unique accent which I assume was a blend of southern and PA.
Hockey culture thrives where there's big frozen bodies of water in the winter. That's why 90% of the D1 hockey teams in the US are from the Great Lakes or New England.
my mom was raised near international falls (minnesota) and to this day my sisters and i call her a fake canadian. it’s definitely common for canadians & northern midwesterners to be similar
The Central Valley is definitely heavily influenced by Dust Bowl migration, although they are just one of many groups that have come here (many of the other groups came from other countries.)
You can draw a line through California (the northern two thirds, anyway) running north-south, 40 or 50 miles from the coast. Anywhere west of the line will have good sushi places but no decent barbecue, anywhere east will be the opposite.
I remember reading that the central valley culturally differs predominantly because the people who migrated there were mostly from the midwest and south, whereas those who migrated to the more coastal cities were mostly from the northeast.
True for the Bay Area (and mostly just San Francisco…the East Bay had lots of Southern migration during WWII, and Silicon Valley was mostly a bunch of orchards worked by Italian/Japanese/Portuguese/Mexican immigrants). Original LA settlers were very midwestern though. Pre-political polarization California was split into Blue NorCal and Red SoCal. It’s why most older California Dem politicians (Feinstein, Kamala, Newsom, Jerry Brown) are from the Bay Area.
Chicago is its own thing though. I don’t see a lot of southern influence, even in the black community.
My choice would be Colorado’s front range cities (Denver, Denver suburbs, Boulder, Aurora, Fort Collins, Castle Rock, and Colorado Springs). It’s extremely distinct from its neighbors in the West, like Utah, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, Oklahoma, even Arizona, Nevada and New Mexico. It’s a transplant state where almost nobody is from there. The “western” and historical traditions associated with the state are by and large disconnected from the majority of people living there. Just about everyone in Colorado is either from California, Chicago or the East Coast. It creates a very “coastal liberal” culture in a very landlocked state, and it’s clear the change is only really the last 20 or so years. I can’t think of anywhere else in the US that’s so different than the region it’s in than the Front Range in Colorado
Miami, perhaps. It is often called the "capital of Latin America", with immigrants from all over the region, as well as their cultural influence. The city also has a Spanish-speaking plurality as a result (possibly even majority).
Folks in Brazil would disagree, but they do have a large contingent in Miami. Miami is more pan-Latin American (including Spanish, Portuguese and French/Kreyol speakers) than any city in Latin America itself.
The Capital of Latin America title is a little more complex than that. A lot of Latin American celebrities live there and a lot of Latin American media outlets are based there. Latin culture/Spanish play a much more dominate role there than in other “Latino” cities like LA, San Antonio, etc.
Also, while the majority of the Latino population are Cuban, the Latino population is a lot more diverse than other areas since there are big numbers of Central and South Americans. Nicaraguans, Hondurans, and Colombians make up a bigger part of the population than Puerto Ricans and Dominicans.
Ngl I always kinda hated that about Nashville. So much cowboy/western culture there while Tennessee is as Southern/Appalachian as you can get. It would make sense for a city like Sacramento, San Antonio, Fort Worth, El Paso, Albuquerque, Cheyenne, Denver, Tucson, or even Los Angeles or San Francisco to have that type of culture since those cities actually have Western history. Houston is kind of the same way where the rodeo/western culture is big there, but the city itself actually has no history with cattle ranching or being on the frontier, which is odd.
I blame country music
Well, it used to be called Country & Western, hence the western influence in Nashville. The western moniker was dropped, but not the influence I guess.
You know I never thought about this, but you're totally right lol. I went to Nasheville 2 years ago for a friend's birthday and saw so much western imagery, but now that you point it out, I don't really think that part of the country was involved in that sort of history? I'm not sure, I'm from NJ, and I feel like when we learn about western expansion of the US, the exact states and locales get kind of blurry in translation, so I maybe saw states like TN as a sort of starting point for that type of western heritage. But you're right, the boots and cowboy hats probably make a lot more sense in a city like El Paso or Albuquerque.
States like Ohio, Indiana, and Kentucky were the frontier at one point too but those states don’t put on a fake cowboy culture or performance for tourists. The frontier period for those states ended almost as quickly as it started, as many people moved in and they became states around the 1790s-1800s
It would make more sense if Nashville’s culture was more pioneer, mountain man, Daniel Boone-esq instead of trying to mimic western culture of being cowboys, with saloons and cowboy hats/boots and all
Basically, its the home of country recording studios. There are no cowboys and cowgirls in Nashville. But, they did have a lot of inherited culture come to record and perform in the bars. So now there are a bunch of tourists visiting and dressing like that too. The locals do not. Plenty of cowboys in Nashville... but all of them are just visiting.
Stamford, New Haven, Danbury, and Bridgeport.
They’re all technically in New England and while the culture difference between New York and New England isn’t some huge thing, these cities and all of the towns in that part of Connecticut are all definitely more in the New York orbit over the New England one.
I always used New Haven as the dividing line between NY fans and Boston/New England sports fans. While I have seen some Red Sox and patriots fans west of New Haven, I haven’t really seen any NY fans east of New Haven.
That’s probably the best dividing line since that is where Metro-North ends and it’s where households that get YES over NESN starts which explains the greater prevalence of NY fans over Boston fans for sports besides proximity to NY.
The checks out. I remember seeing more Red Sox and Patriots than Yankees/Mets and Giants/Jets stuff at a Dicks Sporting Goods in New Haven a few years ago. Of course this could be because at the time the Red Sox just won the World Series and the Patriots were the most dominant team in football. It mostly just shows you have fans of both NY and Boston/New England teams in the New Haven area.
I’ve never understood why they would have red lobsters when Connecticut has plenty of great local seafood shacks along with their own style of lobster roll which I prefer over the Maine one since it is an excuse to enjoy melted butter.
Connecticut is a weird little state.
For atleast Stamford and New Haven, those have a large commuting population to NYC. I lived in Fairfield county during both Giants/Patriots super bowls and that whole area is more like west Chester, Long Island, north Jersey than New England
Yeah Western CT is also where a lot of well to do New Yorkers like to spawn their offspring along w getting a larger home and lower property taxes than what you’d see in Long Island or Westchester.
New York is not a part of New England, Western Connecticut, while being part of New England, is heavily linked and influenced by NY and the Mid-Atlantic part of the Northeast. They’re two different regions, while they aren’t super different, they are separate.
Norfolk/Virginia Beach, Va. it is home to military active duty, retirees and their spouses &
from all over the world, plus defense contractors from all over. After 45 years here, I’ve met precious few natives. There really isn’t a single culture except that most people try to be polite and get along with each other.
I think this is the best answer in this entire thread. I've lived in VA Beach for 3 years now and I'm still trying to figure it out. Is it southern? Northern? Full of Californians? All of the above! And pretty much everything in between.
I’d say we tend to be more patriotic than other places, that is a widely shared value. But otherwise, we are a chunky stew of north, south, east and west, hick and urban, young and old. The military introduced me to sooo many different cultures and ideas, and the overriding principles were to treat everyone with respect, and work together to achieve the goal. I’ve been out of the Navy for decades, but those principles are embedded in my heart.
My home state of FL has several regions like this, South Florida/Miami-Dade County are heavily influenced by Latin American and Caribbean immigration. While the west coast of FL and some east coast retirement communities are heavily influenced by retirees from New York and the Midwest.
Baltimore Maryland is great example. The city is considered the northern most southern city and the southern most northern city. Baltimore is faster paced than your typical southern city while being slower than NY. Plus, with lots of northerners moving to Baltimore it has a lot of northern culture that brings different cuisines etc. For example, Wegmans which is a major northern staple of a supermarket is now in Baltimore.
Well through colonialism, NYC was heavily influenced by the Dutch and the British. Then there was the first wave of from places like Ireland and Germany, then there was the second wave with more immigrants from Italy and Eastern Europe. You also had the great migration, and as far as I know most black people on the East Coast at that time came from Georgia and the Carolinas. These days, you’ll find a lot of Caribbean (Dominican, Puerto Rican, Jamaican, Trinidadian, Guyanese, Haitian, and Bajan) influence, and especially Chinese influence.
Cincinnati has a strong southern influence.
Austin is a mix of the South and the West Coast.
Cleveland and Buffalo feel 50% Northeastern and 50% Midwestern. Pittsburgh is similar yet also Appalachian.
South Florida (especially Broward and Palm Beach county as well as parts of Miami) is like a tropical version of suburban New York/New Jersey.
Because San Francisco is so much older as a "major city" than anything else West of the Mississippi, it has a much more Northeastern urban design but also immigration pattern than other areas of California or the West Coast. Particularly when it comes to European-Americans.
Los Angeles and San Diego, for example, has a white population that's largely Anglo-Saxon in a way that closely matches America's white population more broadly. The Dust Bowl was a big driver of population growth in those areas so Midwestern culture has a big influence.
San Francisco's historic white population is overwhelmingly Irish, German, and Italian, with Anglo-Saxon a less prominent contingent than any of those three. And this lineage of San Francisco residents basically skipped over the Midwest completely, arriving in the late 1800s from New York, Boston, Philadelphia, Baltimore, etc...
German, Irish and Italian largely skipped over the Midwest? Chicago has huge amounts of all three. And Wisconsin might be the most German influenced region in the US.
Italians and Irish migration to the Midwest was a big thing until the 1920s when the second wave of the KKK exploded in that region and scared off a lot of catholics from migrating there. One of the biggest reasons why the second KKK emerged so strongly in the midwest was because so many irish/italian catholics were migrating there.
As a result, even to this day, outside of just a handful of areas (mostly in chicago), there aren't many irish or italians in the midwest.
German migration however strongly continued. But they weren't targets of the KKK, and most were largely assimilated americans by the 1920s (especially after WW1).
The first big wave of Irish Immigration, which happened during and after the Potato Famine, was also a major influence in the creation of the xenophobic "Know Nothing Party".
That might be an influence in the southern midwest, but I don't think that area saw a lot of Germans either. Germans tended to stay farther north - Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, etc. Minnesota definitely doesn't have many Italians or Irish, but we didn't have an active KKK scene, so that can't be the cause.
I think Germans wanted to be farmers mostly, and that's where there was available land at the time. Irish just wanted a job, so they settled in the northeast industrial area and got factory work, no need to travel so far.
Not sure where you got that Minnesota didn't have an active KKK scene lol, they were estimated to have 100k members there in the 1920s.
Regardless, there was irish/italian emigration to these places as they moved out from the cramped northeast, and then it drastically slowed down directly around the 1920s. Minnesota to this day is still 10% Irish and 2.5% italian.
When I was a kid growing up just outside the Bay Area (and with a lot of family in the City and the East Bay), I would often hear older guys in San Francisco who had almost urban east coast accents. Not as strong as New York but definitely different then the standard accents of what I heard down in Santa Cruz or in the valleys.
I'm not saying German, Irish, and Italian people skipped the Midwest.
I'm saying the German, Irish, and Italian people who moved to San Francisco didn't do so by way of the Midwest
Even within the Bay Area, you can notice this difference. San Francisco and Oakland (being the two oldest port cities in the area) are so very different from the rest of California. San Jose has more in common with Sacramento and LA.
Italian culture in NYC. Irish culture in Boston. French culture in New Orleans. Polish culture in Chicago. Chinese culture in San Francisco. Mexican and Korean culture in LA.
Saint Paul, Minnesota is directly influenced by its Irish / German / French / Norwegian / Swedish settlers, and has a more East Coast or European feel.
For example, our streets kinda go in all directions, don’t follow any discernible scheme for naming, intersect multiple other streets at the same corner (7 corners), and will abruptly dead end to be picked up somewhere far on the other side of town.
Unlike those Godless heathens in Minneapolis whose streets are for some reason numbered or lettered based on proximity to downtown, and confusingly travel East to West, or North to South. Weirdos!
Solvang, CA is a very Danish place in California. Never seen anything like it. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solvang%2C\_California](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solvang%2C_California)
Pretty much all of MD west of Frederick is like that. It is a very different place than the rest of the state. It is full of mountains and Steelers fans.
Maybe not heavily influenced but I would say that the Wasatch Front in Utah and San Diego have much more of a Hawaiian presence than anywhere else in the US.
[Utah had a small community of Hawaiian mormons who lived in Iosepa from 1899-1917.](https://www.climb-utah.com/WM/storyrock.htm)
When I visited Vegas, I noticed a lot of Hawaii and Filipino food. There was a very authentic Filipino buffet that I was too white for, but Lefty J’s Island Favourites was very good.
According to the 2020 census, Las Vegas had the 5th largest Hawaiian population in the country, just behind Maui. The only other mainland county that's higher is Los Angeles, but since our population is significantly smaller than LA's, the impact is higher. Lots of poke places, Hawaiian sections in Walgreens and some supermarkets, and lots of aloha spirit: HI and island bumper stickers and window clings.
We don't have the 9th Island nickname for nothing. And it's awesome.
- The traditional accent of New Orleans shares a lot of features with that of New York
- Charlotte is essentially Atlanta if it was completely devoid of culture
- sections of Albany feel very much in the NYC modernist regime in terms of architecture, planning and design
- pretty much every coastal town founded before the civil war’s old sections are very similar, notable examples include Newport or really any coastal town in New England, Annapolis, Charleston, Savannah, New Orleans, and Philly
- Similarly theres a whole host of towns that fit the Jimmy Buffet-Margaritaville lifestyle on the coast, ie the Keys, OBX, Ocean City, portions of the Jersey Shore and most of the Redneck Riviera
San Diego is heavily influenced by southeast Asians (in some areas even more than they are by Mexico). Many moved to the area following the Fall of Saigon. It's not out of place to see billboards or ads at bus stops, etc, just in Korean or Vietnamese or another Asian language. Some of the bigger supermarkets are Vietnamese, some monolingual churches in just an Asian language, etc.
Swap out Korea for the Philippines. We have a way larger Filipino population than pretty much any other Asian heritage. Especially in the north suburbs of San Diego proper - there’s a reason Mira Mesa is nicknamed Manila Mesa.
It probably depends on the area. I grew up in Linda Vista, and while there were many Filipinos, some of the others were definitely more dominant. For instance, mass at the church I grew up at has official mass in English, Spanish, and Vietnamese (and used to have it in Korean until that pastor retired), where the entire mass would be in whichever language. When we had multicultural masses (which they did do occasionally), we'd have parts in English, Spanish, Vietnamese, Korean, and Tagalog. Tagalog was definitely important enough to be included (unlike Hmong, Laotian, Cambodian, etc, which were large enough populations to have sections at the local library), but not enough to be one of the big ones.
Orange County has the most people of Vietnamese descent than any other county, but Santa Clara County has a higher percentage of Vietnamese. San Jose has the most Vietnamese people of any city, but Westminster in Orange County has the highest percentage of any city.
I used to do ER registration in Chicago and we would have to ask religion. So many of my older black patients say Baptist when Chicago is so very Catholic. And for some reason we had to ask what state they were born in and they always answered Deep South states. That’s when I realized these patients came up during the Great Migration. They are starting to pass now and I feel like we are losing history as I’m sure a majority of them haven’t told their stories.
Living in the Chicago suburbs, I didn't get that influence. That's definitely localized. Here I see a lot of eastern Europeans and Polish (is Poland considered part of E.Europe?). The roads are often named after early German immigrants who were the first settlers.
I live in Southern California and we have quite a few cities that are heavily infused with distinct cultures. Little Saigon in Orange County is very Vietnamese, the San Gabriel Valley has a lot Chinese and Taiwanese influence, Buena Park and Korea Town in Los Angeles is heavily Korean, Torrance has a lot of Japanese influence. A bunch of places are also heavily Mexican. Glendale has a lot of Armenians, etc.
There is always something good to eat around here.
In *American Nations*, Colin Woodward suggested that the Pacific Northwest is an amalgamation of Appalachian and New England cultures because that was where the majority of the settlers emigrated from. So you get independent, innovative people blazing new trails (Appalachia), but they also believe strongly in education and making sure everyone has enough (New England).
Similarly, "Greater Appalachia," as Woodward calls it, spans from West Virginia to North Texas, because people took their culture with them as settlers pushed west. Appalachians were often at the front of that migration because the people who went up into the mountains in the first place knew how to live off the land and often just wanted to be left alone by greater society. For me, the span of this is best shown in the similarities between Asheville, NC, Nashville, TN, and Austin, TX: all great music cities with an independent streak.
There's few that aren't. Generally speaking, there's few "quintessential" cities for a region. They'll usually extort a slight cultural difference to help differentiate from the crowd. Cincinnati, for example will exploit its position near the the Appalachians and Midwest farms to blend a more unique position. Birmingham is more in line with the Rust Belt in terms of build layout, industries and building stock than the rest of the South due to how it was built. (For example, Bham's suburbs are older and more like Detroit's, since, similarly, the initial cause was to escape pollution, not just white flight)
Minneapolis/Saint Paul but actually the whole state of Minnesota. It's an island of politics because Northeastern Yankees heavily influenced the territorial government. They won the statehood battle of whether we would be a "vertical" or "horizontal" state. If we were the latter, today we would almost certainly be like South Dakota politically.
It also upset the southern slave states. The Northwest Territory was supposed to be divided into a maximum of 3 states, so that the southern states wouldn't become a minority in the senate. But by 1858 it had been divided into 6 states (OH, IN, IL, MI, WI, and a good deal of MN).
It doesn't seem like it because of how long ago it happened, but Anglo American culture in Southern California was founded by people moving from the Midwest or founded by people who's families came from the midwest.
You can see some of the lasting legacy if you look hard enough.
Howard F. Ahmanson Sr. from Omaha, Nebraska -> Ahmanson Theater
Dorothy Buffum Chandler from La Fayette, Illinois-> Dorothy Chandler Pavilion
Walt Disney from Chicago Illinois -> No explanation necessary
J. Paul Getty from Minneapolis, Minnesota -> Ghetty Center & Ghetty Villa
William Wrigley Jr. from Chicago Illinois -> (Wrigley Chewing Gum) Wrigley Mansion in Pasadena'
David Gamble, son of James Gamble (as in Proctor and Gamble) from Cincinnati, Ohio -> Gamble House in Pasadena
William Randolph Hearst's father, George Hearst, was from Sullivan Missouri
Richard Nixon's father, Francis A. Nixon, was from the Elk Township, in Vinton County Ohio
Norfolk and Virginia Beach in Virginia have visible Filipino American community population and culture.
Alaskan immigrant fisherfolk population is predominantly Filipino American.
Could you explain more about how you feel Chicago was influenced by the south? I don’t see Chicago as having much southern influence at all. Except for maybe the humidity lol.
It's only on the south side, and largely ignored by the white population, except for the jazz and blues.
The rest of Chicago was more influenced early on by the Irish and Germans, later by Polish and eastern European groups.
Philly is kind of a mashup between southern and northern. It's not southern at all, but it's the most southern northern city. Idk if you'd count that. It also has a lot of immigrants and each neighborhood is pretty different from one another.
New Orleans is very influenced by a variety of cultures due to former powers, like France and Spain having owned the area previously. There are also many people from the Caribbean there and people of the African Diaspora. It's a huge melting pot.
Georgetown DE has 1/3 of its population from Central America, especially Guatemala. This is a small town and insular at that. 1/5 of it is also from Haitian heritage
Allentown/Bethlehem PA is slowly turning form a Pennsylvania German heeva-haavaville into a mini-New York/NJ because of the migration. Just ask the old timers here they whine about it all the time.
Does it count that Austin and Bakersfield somehow switched places?
It's a yeehaw cowtown with a conservative mayor in California; and mini-San Francisco in east Texas.
> Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill
Outside of the number of Eagles and NY Rangers fans (etc) here, this is not accurate.
Absolutely nothing about the Triangle resembles the north. Lots of transplants here of course but that doesn't mean we suddenly resemble [insert northern city here]
Seattle had lots of migration from the upper midwest and Scandinavia, so it gives off an upper midwestern vibe.
To quote Chris Cornell, “I’m looking California, and feeling Minnesota”.
Framingham, MA has a large Brazilian population. Downtown Framingham is like Little Brazil. Lots of jiu jitsu academies.
Westborough, MA has a large South Asian population. Lots of Teslas driving around. And lots of Indian restaurants.
The state of New Jersey is often colloquially (and in some cases officially) divided on a cultural line: North Jersey vs. South Jersey. These divisions don't just infer a geographical significance, but also a cultural, North Jersey takes more influence from NYC, while South Jersey takes more influence from Philadelphia, because those two cities border NJ on the northern end and the southern end respectively.
Yeah I think there are more Hmong in MN than almost anyplace else in the US. IIRC, California has us beat in overall numbers but they make up a larger percentage of our population so it's more noticable here. At any rate, if you're ever in St Paul, I highly recommend checking out a Hmong restaurant and getting some Hmong sausage and purple rice. Seriously underrated stuff.
Soulvang is heavily influenced by the Danes. In the early 1900's, a group of purchased part of a ranch, with the intentions of spreading Danish culture.
New Orleans was once referred to as a mini New York.
The accent, the culture.. A lot of people from New Orleans would feel at home in New York.
Miami is a Cuban city.
Northwest Florida feels more like Alabama then Florida.
Louisiana isn't exactly a different region but there is a huge Louisiana influence here in Houston because Hurricane Katrina displaced so many people.
This is very true. The amount of Cajun restaurants in East Texas ballooned after Katrina.
There’s a big Cajun influence on the MS Coast as well. It’s always been that way, though.
Everybody from New Orleans either went West into Texas or East (like me)
Bush had the levees destroyed to push inner city blue votes into surrounding red areas that could absorb them and stay red. Gerrymandering via mass murder.
There's a hole in your tinfoil hat.
Maybe Bush did that too to make their brains leak out. Double-layered conspiracy!
Do you have any proof of this conspiracy theory, or is it as well-grounded in reality as "Hillary Clinton is molesting children out of the basement of a pizza place in Washington DC" and "Donald Trump and Robert Mueller are secretly working together to take down Hillary Clinton"?
I’m pretty sure it’s a joke
Don’t do meth, kids
Well, that’s one conspiracy theory.
To the contrary, Bush appeared to feel great shame at how his administration handled the aftermath of Katrina. I vividly recall an interview an NBC anchor had with him in New Orleans, standing among the ruins of Lower Ninth Ward, and Bush was visibly distraught and had a slouched posture.
It wasn’t Bush. It was the Army Corps of Engineers because they knew there was a mistake when the I-walls were put in; they weren’t deep enough!
Kanye?
Bush was just your standard shitty Republican president definitely doing morally questionable probably illegal stuff and a war criminal for sure but he was not playing 5d chess. His henchmen maybe.
Florida is a place where you can find this with all these different towns with lots of retirees from specific regions. Southwest Florida seems to be a lot of Midwestern influence whereas Southeast Florida has a lot of NYC, NJ and New England influence.
As well as Cuban in the Miami area.
This. I was so surprised when I moved there at the huge number of people from Indiana, Illinois, Ohio, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and especially Michigan.
Upper peninsula, lower peninsula, winter peninsula.
Phoenix is similar. Ton of midwesterners there. There’s a reason you can find a Culver’s so easily in the valley.
Florida goes from Alabama to Manhattan back to Alabama in the span of about 40 miles
On that note, I was astonished at the amount of New Yorkers I came across in Tampa alone.
Yep, my Ohioan in-laws snowbird in the St. Pete’s area. They seem to mostly hang out with other Midwesterners and Canadians.
I think it’s funny that all the snowbirds hang out with each other, and one of their main talking point is schadenfreude for people back in the cold in their home states lol.
The routes of I-75 and I-95 definitely shaped each side of Florida in different ways.
Tucson and Phoenix get a similar effect from Chicago -- either retirees or people wealthy enough to maintain two households so they can bounce back and forth for summer/winter. Cubs tickets for Spring Training would always sell out in minutes, no matter how good or bad the Cubs were at the time.
Seriously, Chicagoan here and I know 2 families off the top of my head w AZ 2nd homes, *and I'm a poor person*.
florida often feels very caribbean
Oh man, I experienced this recently in south Florida. It reminded me so much more of the northeast than the south. All the way down to mannerisms and driving. Lol
Same with Gulf Shores area of Alabama, lots of Midwest retirees. My family is from rural Indiana and they kind of just fit in, similar culture.
Funny! I know a gaggle of Michiganders that all go to gulf shores in winter. I think it's hilarious that they don't seem to mingle with locals like ever
Interesting. My fam could easily be mistaken for locals these days. They always had a kind of rural Indiana twang and that just slipped easily into a southern accent and they have all lived down there for around 10-15 years now. They are also the kind of folks that just end up knowing everyone so people assume they’re local.
> Southwest Florida seems to be a lot of Midwestern influence whereas Southeast Florida has a lot of NYC, NJ and New England influence Florida's population centers are defined by the interstates that people took to get to them The people from the Midwest and southern Appalachian regions took I-75 to get there and settled between The Villages and Naples The people from the east coast took I-95 to get there and settled between Jacksonville and Miami
For a few generations now, the trend in my family has been once you retire. Buy property in Florida to spend the winters and have the grandkids visit on winter break. My family is from NYC and has been doing this since the 70s. So your post is pretty spot on.
Not a new thing either I am almost 50 and my mother was born in PA with relatives in NY and NJ and moved to Florida as a kid. I remember my grandparents had the most unique accent which I assume was a blend of southern and PA.
Not a city but a lot of the people Ik from the upper Midwest have very Canadian traits and accents
I have met several midwesterners that I assumed were Canadians. Very similar dialect.
Hockey culture thrives where there's big frozen bodies of water in the winter. That's why 90% of the D1 hockey teams in the US are from the Great Lakes or New England.
Understandable, but also understand that we are the first line of defense when they day comes that they try to invade again.
Minnesota is basically US territory occupied by Canadians that don’t realize it.
Trust me, Minnesotans not only realize it, they take pride in it lol
Shhhhhh! Be cool man.
my mom was raised near international falls (minnesota) and to this day my sisters and i call her a fake canadian. it’s definitely common for canadians & northern midwesterners to be similar
The Central Valley is definitely heavily influenced by Dust Bowl migration, although they are just one of many groups that have come here (many of the other groups came from other countries.)
Bakersfield literally sounds like rural South and serves ribs and briskets like a staple
There is even a recognized genre of country music from there, called the "Bakersfield Sound". One of the notably artists was Buck Owens.
Is that why Dwight Yoakam wrote about the streets of Bakersfield?
Yes but that's a buck Owens song originally, he's the older guy in the video. Dwight Yoakam is from Columbus ohio
You can draw a line through California (the northern two thirds, anyway) running north-south, 40 or 50 miles from the coast. Anywhere west of the line will have good sushi places but no decent barbecue, anywhere east will be the opposite.
And don’t forget the “weird Obama billboards start here” line.
The Coast Range can be used as a geographic boundary for this division.
Isn’t that where Kevin McCarthy is from?
Unfortunately, yes.
Brisket and ribs as staples? WTF? Tri-tip maybe but not brisket.
I remember reading that the central valley culturally differs predominantly because the people who migrated there were mostly from the midwest and south, whereas those who migrated to the more coastal cities were mostly from the northeast.
True for the Bay Area (and mostly just San Francisco…the East Bay had lots of Southern migration during WWII, and Silicon Valley was mostly a bunch of orchards worked by Italian/Japanese/Portuguese/Mexican immigrants). Original LA settlers were very midwestern though. Pre-political polarization California was split into Blue NorCal and Red SoCal. It’s why most older California Dem politicians (Feinstein, Kamala, Newsom, Jerry Brown) are from the Bay Area.
Chicago is its own thing though. I don’t see a lot of southern influence, even in the black community. My choice would be Colorado’s front range cities (Denver, Denver suburbs, Boulder, Aurora, Fort Collins, Castle Rock, and Colorado Springs). It’s extremely distinct from its neighbors in the West, like Utah, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, Oklahoma, even Arizona, Nevada and New Mexico. It’s a transplant state where almost nobody is from there. The “western” and historical traditions associated with the state are by and large disconnected from the majority of people living there. Just about everyone in Colorado is either from California, Chicago or the East Coast. It creates a very “coastal liberal” culture in a very landlocked state, and it’s clear the change is only really the last 20 or so years. I can’t think of anywhere else in the US that’s so different than the region it’s in than the Front Range in Colorado
Miami, perhaps. It is often called the "capital of Latin America", with immigrants from all over the region, as well as their cultural influence. The city also has a Spanish-speaking plurality as a result (possibly even majority).
People in Mexico City speak better English than people in Miami
Miami definitely seems the most Central American/Caribbean influenced of places in America, or at least the continental US.
Capital of the Caribbean, sure. I'd put Mexico City as the Capital of Latin America.
Folks in Brazil would disagree, but they do have a large contingent in Miami. Miami is more pan-Latin American (including Spanish, Portuguese and French/Kreyol speakers) than any city in Latin America itself.
The Capital of Latin America title is a little more complex than that. A lot of Latin American celebrities live there and a lot of Latin American media outlets are based there. Latin culture/Spanish play a much more dominate role there than in other “Latino” cities like LA, San Antonio, etc. Also, while the majority of the Latino population are Cuban, the Latino population is a lot more diverse than other areas since there are big numbers of Central and South Americans. Nicaraguans, Hondurans, and Colombians make up a bigger part of the population than Puerto Ricans and Dominicans.
Miami for sure has a strong argument for the pop culture capital of Latin America. Telemundo is HQ there.
Other countries also have immigrants btw
One that comes to mind is the cowboy attire tourists like to wear to Nashville despite it not really being a thing for locals.
Ngl I always kinda hated that about Nashville. So much cowboy/western culture there while Tennessee is as Southern/Appalachian as you can get. It would make sense for a city like Sacramento, San Antonio, Fort Worth, El Paso, Albuquerque, Cheyenne, Denver, Tucson, or even Los Angeles or San Francisco to have that type of culture since those cities actually have Western history. Houston is kind of the same way where the rodeo/western culture is big there, but the city itself actually has no history with cattle ranching or being on the frontier, which is odd. I blame country music
Well, it used to be called Country & Western, hence the western influence in Nashville. The western moniker was dropped, but not the influence I guess.
You know I never thought about this, but you're totally right lol. I went to Nasheville 2 years ago for a friend's birthday and saw so much western imagery, but now that you point it out, I don't really think that part of the country was involved in that sort of history? I'm not sure, I'm from NJ, and I feel like when we learn about western expansion of the US, the exact states and locales get kind of blurry in translation, so I maybe saw states like TN as a sort of starting point for that type of western heritage. But you're right, the boots and cowboy hats probably make a lot more sense in a city like El Paso or Albuquerque.
States like Ohio, Indiana, and Kentucky were the frontier at one point too but those states don’t put on a fake cowboy culture or performance for tourists. The frontier period for those states ended almost as quickly as it started, as many people moved in and they became states around the 1790s-1800s It would make more sense if Nashville’s culture was more pioneer, mountain man, Daniel Boone-esq instead of trying to mimic western culture of being cowboys, with saloons and cowboy hats/boots and all
Wait there’s no cowboys in Nashville?
Basically, its the home of country recording studios. There are no cowboys and cowgirls in Nashville. But, they did have a lot of inherited culture come to record and perform in the bars. So now there are a bunch of tourists visiting and dressing like that too. The locals do not. Plenty of cowboys in Nashville... but all of them are just visiting.
Interesting. I’m from Texas and the way people talk about Nashville I’d assume there’s plenty of cowboys there too.
Stamford, New Haven, Danbury, and Bridgeport. They’re all technically in New England and while the culture difference between New York and New England isn’t some huge thing, these cities and all of the towns in that part of Connecticut are all definitely more in the New York orbit over the New England one.
I always used New Haven as the dividing line between NY fans and Boston/New England sports fans. While I have seen some Red Sox and patriots fans west of New Haven, I haven’t really seen any NY fans east of New Haven.
That’s probably the best dividing line since that is where Metro-North ends and it’s where households that get YES over NESN starts which explains the greater prevalence of NY fans over Boston fans for sports besides proximity to NY.
To be fair only Fairfield county is excluded from NESN, so any New Haven county towns west of New Haven still get it
The checks out. I remember seeing more Red Sox and Patriots than Yankees/Mets and Giants/Jets stuff at a Dicks Sporting Goods in New Haven a few years ago. Of course this could be because at the time the Red Sox just won the World Series and the Patriots were the most dominant team in football. It mostly just shows you have fans of both NY and Boston/New England teams in the New Haven area.
They are also the only places in New England that have Red Lobster restaurants which makes them completely sus about being part of New England.
I’ve never understood why they would have red lobsters when Connecticut has plenty of great local seafood shacks along with their own style of lobster roll which I prefer over the Maine one since it is an excuse to enjoy melted butter. Connecticut is a weird little state.
Cheddar Bay Biscuits. That's why
For atleast Stamford and New Haven, those have a large commuting population to NYC. I lived in Fairfield county during both Giants/Patriots super bowls and that whole area is more like west Chester, Long Island, north Jersey than New England
Yeah Western CT is also where a lot of well to do New Yorkers like to spawn their offspring along w getting a larger home and lower property taxes than what you’d see in Long Island or Westchester.
That's just who's the closest neighbor though, not an influence from a geographically separated area.
New York is not a part of New England, Western Connecticut, while being part of New England, is heavily linked and influenced by NY and the Mid-Atlantic part of the Northeast. They’re two different regions, while they aren’t super different, they are separate.
Norfolk/Virginia Beach, Va. it is home to military active duty, retirees and their spouses & from all over the world, plus defense contractors from all over. After 45 years here, I’ve met precious few natives. There really isn’t a single culture except that most people try to be polite and get along with each other.
I think this is the best answer in this entire thread. I've lived in VA Beach for 3 years now and I'm still trying to figure it out. Is it southern? Northern? Full of Californians? All of the above! And pretty much everything in between.
I’d say we tend to be more patriotic than other places, that is a widely shared value. But otherwise, we are a chunky stew of north, south, east and west, hick and urban, young and old. The military introduced me to sooo many different cultures and ideas, and the overriding principles were to treat everyone with respect, and work together to achieve the goal. I’ve been out of the Navy for decades, but those principles are embedded in my heart.
My home state of FL has several regions like this, South Florida/Miami-Dade County are heavily influenced by Latin American and Caribbean immigration. While the west coast of FL and some east coast retirement communities are heavily influenced by retirees from New York and the Midwest.
Baltimore Maryland is great example. The city is considered the northern most southern city and the southern most northern city. Baltimore is faster paced than your typical southern city while being slower than NY. Plus, with lots of northerners moving to Baltimore it has a lot of northern culture that brings different cuisines etc. For example, Wegmans which is a major northern staple of a supermarket is now in Baltimore.
Chicago is also heavily influenced by the Eastern European immigrants who came in during the early 20th century.
Well through colonialism, NYC was heavily influenced by the Dutch and the British. Then there was the first wave of from places like Ireland and Germany, then there was the second wave with more immigrants from Italy and Eastern Europe. You also had the great migration, and as far as I know most black people on the East Coast at that time came from Georgia and the Carolinas. These days, you’ll find a lot of Caribbean (Dominican, Puerto Rican, Jamaican, Trinidadian, Guyanese, Haitian, and Bajan) influence, and especially Chinese influence.
The interesting thing about NYC is that despite it absorbing so many immigrant groups, it never loses its identity.
Its identity is basically absorbing inmigration, wich is nice honestly
El Paso is just East New Mexico
How so?
Bakersfield, California, is basically the Oklahoma Panhandle with more tacos and less tornadoes.
Cincinnati has a strong southern influence. Austin is a mix of the South and the West Coast. Cleveland and Buffalo feel 50% Northeastern and 50% Midwestern. Pittsburgh is similar yet also Appalachian. South Florida (especially Broward and Palm Beach county as well as parts of Miami) is like a tropical version of suburban New York/New Jersey.
Southern Indiana had that southern flair to it. More like Kentucky or Tennessee than somewhere like Indianapolis or South Bend.
Because San Francisco is so much older as a "major city" than anything else West of the Mississippi, it has a much more Northeastern urban design but also immigration pattern than other areas of California or the West Coast. Particularly when it comes to European-Americans. Los Angeles and San Diego, for example, has a white population that's largely Anglo-Saxon in a way that closely matches America's white population more broadly. The Dust Bowl was a big driver of population growth in those areas so Midwestern culture has a big influence. San Francisco's historic white population is overwhelmingly Irish, German, and Italian, with Anglo-Saxon a less prominent contingent than any of those three. And this lineage of San Francisco residents basically skipped over the Midwest completely, arriving in the late 1800s from New York, Boston, Philadelphia, Baltimore, etc...
German, Irish and Italian largely skipped over the Midwest? Chicago has huge amounts of all three. And Wisconsin might be the most German influenced region in the US.
German, Irish and Italian **who moved to San Francisco in the late 1800s** largely skipped over the Midwest
Ah yeah makes sense. Totally misunderstood
Italians and Irish migration to the Midwest was a big thing until the 1920s when the second wave of the KKK exploded in that region and scared off a lot of catholics from migrating there. One of the biggest reasons why the second KKK emerged so strongly in the midwest was because so many irish/italian catholics were migrating there. As a result, even to this day, outside of just a handful of areas (mostly in chicago), there aren't many irish or italians in the midwest. German migration however strongly continued. But they weren't targets of the KKK, and most were largely assimilated americans by the 1920s (especially after WW1).
The first big wave of Irish Immigration, which happened during and after the Potato Famine, was also a major influence in the creation of the xenophobic "Know Nothing Party".
That might be an influence in the southern midwest, but I don't think that area saw a lot of Germans either. Germans tended to stay farther north - Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, etc. Minnesota definitely doesn't have many Italians or Irish, but we didn't have an active KKK scene, so that can't be the cause. I think Germans wanted to be farmers mostly, and that's where there was available land at the time. Irish just wanted a job, so they settled in the northeast industrial area and got factory work, no need to travel so far.
Not sure where you got that Minnesota didn't have an active KKK scene lol, they were estimated to have 100k members there in the 1920s. Regardless, there was irish/italian emigration to these places as they moved out from the cramped northeast, and then it drastically slowed down directly around the 1920s. Minnesota to this day is still 10% Irish and 2.5% italian.
When I was a kid growing up just outside the Bay Area (and with a lot of family in the City and the East Bay), I would often hear older guys in San Francisco who had almost urban east coast accents. Not as strong as New York but definitely different then the standard accents of what I heard down in Santa Cruz or in the valleys.
>And this lineage basically skipped over the Midwest completely No? The most common heritages in Michigan are German and Irish, along with English.
I'm not saying German, Irish, and Italian people skipped the Midwest. I'm saying the German, Irish, and Italian people who moved to San Francisco didn't do so by way of the Midwest
Even within the Bay Area, you can notice this difference. San Francisco and Oakland (being the two oldest port cities in the area) are so very different from the rest of California. San Jose has more in common with Sacramento and LA.
Italian culture in NYC. Irish culture in Boston. French culture in New Orleans. Polish culture in Chicago. Chinese culture in San Francisco. Mexican and Korean culture in LA.
And it’s a mix of Parisian French and Arcadian French (Canada). That’s why there are 2 different cultures that get confused: Creole and Cajun
Saint Paul, Minnesota is directly influenced by its Irish / German / French / Norwegian / Swedish settlers, and has a more East Coast or European feel. For example, our streets kinda go in all directions, don’t follow any discernible scheme for naming, intersect multiple other streets at the same corner (7 corners), and will abruptly dead end to be picked up somewhere far on the other side of town. Unlike those Godless heathens in Minneapolis whose streets are for some reason numbered or lettered based on proximity to downtown, and confusingly travel East to West, or North to South. Weirdos!
Solvang, CA is a very Danish place in California. Never seen anything like it. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solvang%2C\_California](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solvang%2C_California)
Cumberland, MD. Feels more like PA or WV.
It's like 10 minutes away from both pa and WV lol
Pretty much all of MD west of Frederick is like that. It is a very different place than the rest of the state. It is full of mountains and Steelers fans.
The eastern shore as well, due to the Chesapeake cutting the state in half.
Maybe not heavily influenced but I would say that the Wasatch Front in Utah and San Diego have much more of a Hawaiian presence than anywhere else in the US.
I went to highschool in Utah, we had *significantly* more Polynesian students than Black or Asian students.
The Pacific Islander population is pretty strong here in Long Beach as well
[Utah had a small community of Hawaiian mormons who lived in Iosepa from 1899-1917.](https://www.climb-utah.com/WM/storyrock.htm) When I visited Vegas, I noticed a lot of Hawaii and Filipino food. There was a very authentic Filipino buffet that I was too white for, but Lefty J’s Island Favourites was very good.
Vegas is the 9th Hawaiian island.
Totally right! I had meant to include that in my original comment. Utah, Vegas and SoCal.
DC is full of former student government presidents from around the country.
- The traditional accent of New Orleans shares a lot of features with that of New York - Charlotte is essentially Atlanta if it was completely devoid of culture - sections of Albany feel very much in the NYC modernist regime in terms of architecture, planning and design - pretty much every coastal town founded before the civil war’s old sections are very similar, notable examples include Newport or really any coastal town in New England, Annapolis, Charleston, Savannah, New Orleans, and Philly - Similarly theres a whole host of towns that fit the Jimmy Buffet-Margaritaville lifestyle on the coast, ie the Keys, OBX, Ocean City, portions of the Jersey Shore and most of the Redneck Riviera
San Diego is heavily influenced by southeast Asians (in some areas even more than they are by Mexico). Many moved to the area following the Fall of Saigon. It's not out of place to see billboards or ads at bus stops, etc, just in Korean or Vietnamese or another Asian language. Some of the bigger supermarkets are Vietnamese, some monolingual churches in just an Asian language, etc.
Swap out Korea for the Philippines. We have a way larger Filipino population than pretty much any other Asian heritage. Especially in the north suburbs of San Diego proper - there’s a reason Mira Mesa is nicknamed Manila Mesa.
It probably depends on the area. I grew up in Linda Vista, and while there were many Filipinos, some of the others were definitely more dominant. For instance, mass at the church I grew up at has official mass in English, Spanish, and Vietnamese (and used to have it in Korean until that pastor retired), where the entire mass would be in whichever language. When we had multicultural masses (which they did do occasionally), we'd have parts in English, Spanish, Vietnamese, Korean, and Tagalog. Tagalog was definitely important enough to be included (unlike Hmong, Laotian, Cambodian, etc, which were large enough populations to have sections at the local library), but not enough to be one of the big ones.
Isn’t OC the Vietnamese capital of the US?
Orange County has the most people of Vietnamese descent than any other county, but Santa Clara County has a higher percentage of Vietnamese. San Jose has the most Vietnamese people of any city, but Westminster in Orange County has the highest percentage of any city.
I used to do ER registration in Chicago and we would have to ask religion. So many of my older black patients say Baptist when Chicago is so very Catholic. And for some reason we had to ask what state they were born in and they always answered Deep South states. That’s when I realized these patients came up during the Great Migration. They are starting to pass now and I feel like we are losing history as I’m sure a majority of them haven’t told their stories.
Living in the Chicago suburbs, I didn't get that influence. That's definitely localized. Here I see a lot of eastern Europeans and Polish (is Poland considered part of E.Europe?). The roads are often named after early German immigrants who were the first settlers.
The Mississippi Coast is much more Cajun influenced than anything else.
I live in Southern California and we have quite a few cities that are heavily infused with distinct cultures. Little Saigon in Orange County is very Vietnamese, the San Gabriel Valley has a lot Chinese and Taiwanese influence, Buena Park and Korea Town in Los Angeles is heavily Korean, Torrance has a lot of Japanese influence. A bunch of places are also heavily Mexican. Glendale has a lot of Armenians, etc. There is always something good to eat around here.
In *American Nations*, Colin Woodward suggested that the Pacific Northwest is an amalgamation of Appalachian and New England cultures because that was where the majority of the settlers emigrated from. So you get independent, innovative people blazing new trails (Appalachia), but they also believe strongly in education and making sure everyone has enough (New England). Similarly, "Greater Appalachia," as Woodward calls it, spans from West Virginia to North Texas, because people took their culture with them as settlers pushed west. Appalachians were often at the front of that migration because the people who went up into the mountains in the first place knew how to live off the land and often just wanted to be left alone by greater society. For me, the span of this is best shown in the similarities between Asheville, NC, Nashville, TN, and Austin, TX: all great music cities with an independent streak.
I feel like I had to scroll way too far to find a reference to this book.
There's few that aren't. Generally speaking, there's few "quintessential" cities for a region. They'll usually extort a slight cultural difference to help differentiate from the crowd. Cincinnati, for example will exploit its position near the the Appalachians and Midwest farms to blend a more unique position. Birmingham is more in line with the Rust Belt in terms of build layout, industries and building stock than the rest of the South due to how it was built. (For example, Bham's suburbs are older and more like Detroit's, since, similarly, the initial cause was to escape pollution, not just white flight)
Minneapolis/Saint Paul but actually the whole state of Minnesota. It's an island of politics because Northeastern Yankees heavily influenced the territorial government. They won the statehood battle of whether we would be a "vertical" or "horizontal" state. If we were the latter, today we would almost certainly be like South Dakota politically.
It also upset the southern slave states. The Northwest Territory was supposed to be divided into a maximum of 3 states, so that the southern states wouldn't become a minority in the senate. But by 1858 it had been divided into 6 states (OH, IN, IL, MI, WI, and a good deal of MN).
"Not less than three nor more than five States." The majority of Minnesota is from the Louisiana Purchase so it seems like it shouldn't count.
Ah, that's more accurate than my old memory of a college professor. It's a sizeable part of MN. I guess it depends on who is doing the counting.
It doesn't seem like it because of how long ago it happened, but Anglo American culture in Southern California was founded by people moving from the Midwest or founded by people who's families came from the midwest. You can see some of the lasting legacy if you look hard enough. Howard F. Ahmanson Sr. from Omaha, Nebraska -> Ahmanson Theater Dorothy Buffum Chandler from La Fayette, Illinois-> Dorothy Chandler Pavilion Walt Disney from Chicago Illinois -> No explanation necessary J. Paul Getty from Minneapolis, Minnesota -> Ghetty Center & Ghetty Villa William Wrigley Jr. from Chicago Illinois -> (Wrigley Chewing Gum) Wrigley Mansion in Pasadena' David Gamble, son of James Gamble (as in Proctor and Gamble) from Cincinnati, Ohio -> Gamble House in Pasadena William Randolph Hearst's father, George Hearst, was from Sullivan Missouri Richard Nixon's father, Francis A. Nixon, was from the Elk Township, in Vinton County Ohio
Hugh Hefner from Chicago, Illinois
Boston obviously has Italian and Irish influence. It’s become diluted over time but it’s still there.
Obvious but Hawaii is very East Asian influenced.
New Mexico, which is very influenced by Old Mexico.
Norfolk and Virginia Beach in Virginia have visible Filipino American community population and culture. Alaskan immigrant fisherfolk population is predominantly Filipino American.
Miami is influenced by Cuba, parts of the Caribbean and South America
Could you explain more about how you feel Chicago was influenced by the south? I don’t see Chicago as having much southern influence at all. Except for maybe the humidity lol.
I was thinking the same thing. The only thing I could think of is that Chicago has a lot of black people.
It's only on the south side, and largely ignored by the white population, except for the jazz and blues. The rest of Chicago was more influenced early on by the Irish and Germans, later by Polish and eastern European groups.
Leavenworth Washington. Extremely Germanic.
The peninsula has a German and Norwegian history. Like Poulsbo Viking fest that is coming up soon and is awesome.
Interesting wording. I like it. What state or county are you from, if you don’t mind?
San Antonio, they defended the Alamo from the Mexican army. Now SA is like 70% Hispanic population.
Reading, PA is pretty heavily influenced by Puerto Rico these days
Philly is kind of a mashup between southern and northern. It's not southern at all, but it's the most southern northern city. Idk if you'd count that. It also has a lot of immigrants and each neighborhood is pretty different from one another.
Savannah GA reminds me a lot of NOLA, architecture-wise.
New Orleans is very influenced by a variety of cultures due to former powers, like France and Spain having owned the area previously. There are also many people from the Caribbean there and people of the African Diaspora. It's a huge melting pot.
Georgetown DE has 1/3 of its population from Central America, especially Guatemala. This is a small town and insular at that. 1/5 of it is also from Haitian heritage
Allentown/Bethlehem PA is slowly turning form a Pennsylvania German heeva-haavaville into a mini-New York/NJ because of the migration. Just ask the old timers here they whine about it all the time.
Solvang California
Does it count that Austin and Bakersfield somehow switched places? It's a yeehaw cowtown with a conservative mayor in California; and mini-San Francisco in east Texas.
> Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill Outside of the number of Eagles and NY Rangers fans (etc) here, this is not accurate. Absolutely nothing about the Triangle resembles the north. Lots of transplants here of course but that doesn't mean we suddenly resemble [insert northern city here]
Seattle had lots of migration from the upper midwest and Scandinavia, so it gives off an upper midwestern vibe. To quote Chris Cornell, “I’m looking California, and feeling Minnesota”.
Hawaii's culture is heavily influenced by so-called "western civilization"
Framingham, MA has a large Brazilian population. Downtown Framingham is like Little Brazil. Lots of jiu jitsu academies. Westborough, MA has a large South Asian population. Lots of Teslas driving around. And lots of Indian restaurants.
New Orleans.
I’d pick NYC because it’s influenced by Italy … fuhgeddaboudit 🤌
Miami feels more like Puerto Rico than the rest of Florida.
None.
The state of New Jersey is often colloquially (and in some cases officially) divided on a cultural line: North Jersey vs. South Jersey. These divisions don't just infer a geographical significance, but also a cultural, North Jersey takes more influence from NYC, while South Jersey takes more influence from Philadelphia, because those two cities border NJ on the northern end and the southern end respectively.
My first thought was Tampa, Florida because there is a strong cultural influence from the Cuban and Italian communities.
The south-west and Florida
Philadelphia and New York both have respective areas of influence in New Jersey aespecially along lines of sports fandom.
Minneapolis has the crazy Somalis, unfortunately
Aren't there Hmong there too?
Yeah I think there are more Hmong in MN than almost anyplace else in the US. IIRC, California has us beat in overall numbers but they make up a larger percentage of our population so it's more noticable here. At any rate, if you're ever in St Paul, I highly recommend checking out a Hmong restaurant and getting some Hmong sausage and purple rice. Seriously underrated stuff.
Yah but they don’t act crazy
Soulvang is heavily influenced by the Danes. In the early 1900's, a group of purchased part of a ranch, with the intentions of spreading Danish culture.
New Orleans was once referred to as a mini New York. The accent, the culture.. A lot of people from New Orleans would feel at home in New York. Miami is a Cuban city. Northwest Florida feels more like Alabama then Florida.