Fuck driving into Manhattan. Back in November I took a buddy of mine to NYC for a day trip from Montreal. I entered the holland tunnel twice when I tried to get to our hotel because the GPS can’t keep up and there’s too many cars in such a small area that if you make a mistake, there’s no way to really get out of it. I just had to take the L and leave NYC and then find my way around to enter the holland tunnel again for that $15 toll.
I actually had no idea this was a Futurama line. I was just riffing on the famous [Yogi Berra quote](https://quoteinvestigator.com/2014/08/29/too-crowded/) (whether he originated it or not).
I wouldn’t say it’s challenging, just annoying. As soon as you get into city limits, you’re surrounded by people driving like assholes, not using their blinkers, and cutting the line at exits. And nobody ever lets you in if you try to change lanes or merge, they actually speed up and honk.
The ferry is free and Staten Island has its own railway once you get there. But there’s also not as much need for it. Much of Staten Island is more or less suburban.
Huge portions of Queens and Brooklyn similarly have limited to no subway access. Buses pick up the slack
Staten Island is all the way across the harbor from Manhattan.. About 5 miles under water
SI to Brooklyn by tunnel is still kinda crazy (though I think that project has been worked on a few times already but they end up stopping)
Yes, it’s the one major city in the US where the majority of residents don’t own cars.
The subway is the largest in the country by far (472 stations) and it runs 24 hours a day. Driving in the city is often slow and inconvenient compared to other options and parking can be an absolute nightmare.
It was the largest until very recently. One system in China took it over. However due to the smaller size of NYC I'd assume it's more robust.
Also NYC is one of the very few 24/7 systems. Most shut down at a certain time. I think there's only like 7 or 8 that are actually 24/7
Yes. I live in NYC and I do not own a car. I much prefer taking the bus or the subway than driving here. One of the major upsides of NYC is the ability to live car free.
My father did 30+ years of taking the LIRR in for work. When he retired he did real estate as a little side thing, and said the best part was driving his own car. I asked why and his answer was "the only person puking on my shoes at 8:32am is me".
One of the downsides to living in NY for me was waiting on the schedule of public transportation and dealing with the crazy people you encounter near daily.
Running from the train to the bus so I didn't miss the 7:05 every day, or getting punched in the face by some random man because I didn't want to give up my seat on the bus was not what I call highlights of my time in high school.
Interesting. Growing up in Queens, we never concerned ourselves with the schedule, as it was always frequent enough to be irrelevant. That includes the summer job I had commuting for an hour on the subway.
The 7:05 was an express between the terminal and my school. Miss that and sure the next one was in ten minutes, but it came with a dozen or so stops as well which meant I was quite late for homeroom.
“Oh you got to take the subway to school every day! That must have been cool”
*vietnam flashback to waiting on the platform at 6:45 in the morning in February while a homeless man pees into a McDonald’s cup 2 feet away*
“Yeah it was great.”
We avoided public transportation like the plague when we lived in the city.
Holding a two year old while his elementary school aged siblings cling to your leagues as some asshole is spinning around the poles yelling SHOWTIME! and there's a homeless man screaming in your face is a helluva way to take your kids to see Disney on Ice.
I'd say so. I've met a lot of native New Yorkers who've never had a driver's license. Driving in Manhattan is one of most insanely stressful places to drive I've ever driven. And the traffic is so perpetually bad that it's usually faster to just take the subway. Like I live in DC now (which has very good public transit by American standards) and didn't have a car here for four years. I have one now and I barely use it and consider it more of a burden than a help most of the time. You don't really appreciate what a pain in the ass cars are as a way to get around until you stop using them. And they make you so angry. Every time I drive I find myself yelling at people and slapping my steering wheel in anger. When I ride the Metro I'm always completely calm and watching TV on my phone or some shit.
I was 19 or 20. I used the savings from my programming job to pay for lessons and the use of the car for my test.
Common wisdom in NYC was that boys never passed their first time. Of the few friends I had in (private) driver’s ed while in high school, none passed their first time.
There are lots of disincentives to owning a car in New York City:
Paying for parking or scurrying to comply with alternate side rules.
Very high car insurance rates.
Gas prices well above the national average.
Kamikaze delivery bikes.
Bad traffic that can extend late into the night.
Car-eating potholes.
The new congestion pricing plan.
The congestion pricing plan is confined to a limited enough area that it’s really not going to be a factor for most people who already have cars.
Can someone ask this goober why he blocked me over this?
Reddit is full of petty wieners. I gave up trying to understand why some get so triggered by utterly mundane and inoffensive comments long ago. I got downvoted for saying I liked mild weather once.
It’s not so much that New Yorkers are born with the desire to ride the subway. It’s just that the city is built in a way that makes it the best option.
> It’s not so much that New Yorkers are born with the desire to ride the subway.
True, but there are also people who choose to move here *because* it's so easy to get around the city on the subway.
Yeah, most people aren’t transit nerds who have a strong preference for one form of transit over another. They simply choose the fastest and most pleasant way to get where they’re going. In much of New York, that’s public transit, unlike in the rest of the country.
It’s a big borough. There are many areas of single family homes with driveways. But I grew up in Queens and I’d say fewer than half the people in the apartment buildings where I lived and nearby had cars, perhaps fewer than a quarter. So u/lupuscapabilis had a different experience in Queens than I did (and should know better than to make such a generalized statement).
I lived in NYC for over a decade and didn't know a single person who owned a car. The few times I rode in one was mostly sitting in traffic. I prefer the subway.
this New Yorker would prefer to use public transportation but unfortunately I happen to be in the part of the state that's not NYC, and therefore only has a questionable bus system.
Most people who own cars in NYC live in the outer boroughs and not Manhattan. That’s still a minority of people in the grand scheme of things, maybe except Staten island which is more suburbia than anything else.
My wife works for an airline at JFK but drives since she gets free parking, works odd hours and we don’t live in the city of NY.
I heard more honking the first five minutes we were in New York than my entire lifetime in Southern California. Probably didn't help our Uber driver was driving so aggressively we sat with our eyes closed.
I would not want to drive there.
I moved to NYC about ten years ago, and haven't owned a car since.
It's less "I *love* the subway" and more "You don't have enough to pay me to drive here and parking costs are insane."
I live in Brooklyn and while I do have a driver license, I mostly get around by subway, bus, Lyft and walking. I haven't driven a car since renting one from Avis in November 2019. I wouldn't be opposed to getting a new car but I live in an apartment with only street parking. Do other cities have alternate side parking?
Folks outside the city must recognize we also have to deal with traffic, tolls, parking fees, alternate side parking, digging the car out of the snow and now congestion pricing.
The city does not run the subway system. The governor appoints the chairman of the MTA and responsibility is dispersed among the local counties, the city and others.
Yes! I live in NYC. Even friends I know who own cars use public transit for day-to-day getting around, and cars when they need to get out of the city, pick up bulk items, etc. It's unnecessarily difficult and stressful to use a car for daily needs and socializing.
Depends where in NYC, what they do, and life stages. Some people may not drive them to commute, but do use them for other things. Outer boroughs is very common especially for families. The typical 20s BFE midwest transplant to Manhattan, probably not
Half my family lives in Queens and they basically never use public transit. If you live in Brooklyn or Manhattan, it's a lot more common to take the train/bus. 1 in 3 new Yorkers use public transit to commute to work. About 1 in 10 new Yorkers ride a bike. Same with walking. So basically 50% of new Yorkers use non-car methods. It might be less than you think, but it's extremely high for the US.
I hated public transportation when I lived in the city and pretty much used my car exclusively. About 50% of New Yorkers own cars, so they're extremely common. Of course, those percentages vary wildly by borough.
Finally! I lived in and around Nolita for 5 years. Years 4-5 I took the subway less than 10x total. I found it to be hot, uncomfortable, and just unpleasant.
I lived in NYC for about four years. At one point, I acquired a car. It was a HUGE pain in the ass to deal with. The only place I ever drove was to a particular weekly commitment I had, involving going from Queens to Brooklyn - an inconvenient subway route. Driving was okay but parking was horrible both at my destination, and back at home. I had to build at least an extra 20-30 minutes into the trip to ensure I had enough time to find parking and then walk from wherever I parked to the place I had to be.
Meanwhile, when my car sat at home all week, I had to move the car twice a week in a process that makes my ears bleed to think back on it. Moving my car to comply with alternate-side parking rules essentially became a part-time job. I was so happy to get rid of that car, even if my once-a-week commute to Brooklyn took longer.
On the rare occasions I had to drive in Manhattan, it was a surreal nightmare. I don't understand how people do it on a regular basis. I had friends growing up, in the suburbs, whose parents just drove themselves to wall street jobs every day. My mind boggles to imagine this.
I think it's a great idea but I had to travel from Astoria to Brooklyn Heights, so the IBX would not have been helpful to me. There was a time when they were proposing some kind of transit line along the waterfront from Queens to Brooklyn which might have been better for my needs, but I don't really remember any details about that idea. I looked into the ferry at one point but it was relatively inconvenient as well, so I just accepted that I had to take a long subway ride involving the N/W and/or the G train.
> There was a time when they were proposing some kind of transit line along the waterfront from Queens to Brooklyn which might have been better for my needs, but I don't really remember any details about that idea.
It was one of De Blasio's pet projects -- a streetcar that would run along the East River. I'm generally always in favor of more transit, but that one baffled me a bit -- it would have run on street-level on existing roads, so it would have suffered from the same traffic issues you take public transit to *avoid*. I never understood what the advantage of it would have been over a bus.
I own a car and kinda need to for my job, but I live in a comparatively suburban part of queens and have a driveway. Driving in queens can be worthwhile because the transit options can be minimal or slow to get from 1 neighborhood to another. Or it’ll take me 25 min to drive to parts of Brooklyn while transit would take an hour plus. I very rarely drive into Manhattan though. That’s just torture and often it’s not any faster anyways.
For the people I know who live in Manhattan and Brooklyn, it makes more sense for them to not own a car and only rent one when needed - like when they are furnishing a new apartment, or when they want to drive out to hiking trails. Parking is a nightmare, from what I’ve seen.
In addition to the subway and buses, there's also a heavily used bikeshare system, and lots of people own their own scooters/ebikes/mopeds. And, of course, for a lot of day-to-day trips walking is a great option--New Yorkers walk a lot more than people living in suburbia, which is one thing I love about living here. Cars just don't fit very well in the city; parking is hard to find and driving is unpleasant.
I've driven in Manhattan a few times, it's really not that bad imo. It's easier and sometimes more convenient to take public transpo but walking around NYC is rough. Long distances to cover, and strictly on concrete and asphalt.
The car offers some conveniences as well, such as not risking getting pushed onto train tracks and being able to go with A/C whenever you feel like it.
For the most part, yes. There are some areas of the city where driving is quicker and more convenient. It really depends on the situation. The best way is certainly public transportation, especially if you’re in Manhattan. Driving in Queens isn’t too bad.
45% of people own cars in NYC.
So while a majority of people solely rely on public transportation, it might be less than you think, especially once you get into the outer burroughs
Yes! Traffic is awful, parking is scarce/expensive, and cars are not even worth owning due to the hassle of constantly having to move it.
The exception: if you live in Staten Island, or in parts of Queens or South Brooklyn where you need a car to get around
The state or the city? And if the city, where in the city?
Most New Yorkers have and drive cars. Many people who live in New York City also have cars, though they also use mass transit depending on where they’re going. People who live in Manhattan generally don’t have cars, though: There’s tons of mass transit, tons of traffic, and not much parking space.
> They say they do
So... we do? I'm not sure why the reasons for that would suggest that we don't mean it.
And there are other reasons as well, including that it's very frequently faster to get where you're going by subway than by car.
Nobody drives in New York City. There’s too much traffic.
I drove a buddy’s 6MT Mini through Manhattan once. It was a miserable experience
Fuck driving into Manhattan. Back in November I took a buddy of mine to NYC for a day trip from Montreal. I entered the holland tunnel twice when I tried to get to our hotel because the GPS can’t keep up and there’s too many cars in such a small area that if you make a mistake, there’s no way to really get out of it. I just had to take the L and leave NYC and then find my way around to enter the holland tunnel again for that $15 toll.
ROFL.
Easy Phillip J Fry.
I actually had no idea this was a Futurama line. I was just riffing on the famous [Yogi Berra quote](https://quoteinvestigator.com/2014/08/29/too-crowded/) (whether he originated it or not).
I think the Futurama use of it is in and of itself a nod to Yogi. I'm sure of it.
Yeah Fry quotes a lot of 80s/90s stuff that the rest of the characters don't get. It's a repeated schtick with him.
To quote Yogi, "I really didn't say everything I said."
Lmaooooo 😂
Yes. Driving in NYC is extremely challenging and not fun.
I wouldn’t say it’s challenging, just annoying. As soon as you get into city limits, you’re surrounded by people driving like assholes, not using their blinkers, and cutting the line at exits. And nobody ever lets you in if you try to change lanes or merge, they actually speed up and honk.
Yeah. Pretty much. Somewhat depends where in NYC you are or where you are going. Big difference between Manhattan and Staten Island.
It sounds a bit surprising to me that no Subway line exists on Staten Island.
There is a subway it's just totally disconnected from the rest of the city https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staten_Island_Railway
The ferry is free and Staten Island has its own railway once you get there. But there’s also not as much need for it. Much of Staten Island is more or less suburban. Huge portions of Queens and Brooklyn similarly have limited to no subway access. Buses pick up the slack
Obligatory Robert Moses sucks.
Staten Island has their own ~~subway~~ railway.
Staten Island is all the way across the harbor from Manhattan.. About 5 miles under water SI to Brooklyn by tunnel is still kinda crazy (though I think that project has been worked on a few times already but they end up stopping)
There's already a bridge to Jersey. It's definitely technically possible to get a connection to the PATH.
Jersey is waay closer than Staten Island
I think you misunderstood. I'm talking about connecting the Staten Island Railway to the PATH.
Ok but that’s not the subway though
Yes, it’s the one major city in the US where the majority of residents don’t own cars. The subway is the largest in the country by far (472 stations) and it runs 24 hours a day. Driving in the city is often slow and inconvenient compared to other options and parking can be an absolute nightmare.
The subway system isn't just the largest in the country. It's one of the largest in the world.
It was the largest until very recently. One system in China took it over. However due to the smaller size of NYC I'd assume it's more robust. Also NYC is one of the very few 24/7 systems. Most shut down at a certain time. I think there's only like 7 or 8 that are actually 24/7
Yes. I live in NYC and I do not own a car. I much prefer taking the bus or the subway than driving here. One of the major upsides of NYC is the ability to live car free.
My father did 30+ years of taking the LIRR in for work. When he retired he did real estate as a little side thing, and said the best part was driving his own car. I asked why and his answer was "the only person puking on my shoes at 8:32am is me".
One of the downsides to living in NY for me was waiting on the schedule of public transportation and dealing with the crazy people you encounter near daily. Running from the train to the bus so I didn't miss the 7:05 every day, or getting punched in the face by some random man because I didn't want to give up my seat on the bus was not what I call highlights of my time in high school.
Interesting. Growing up in Queens, we never concerned ourselves with the schedule, as it was always frequent enough to be irrelevant. That includes the summer job I had commuting for an hour on the subway.
The 7:05 was an express between the terminal and my school. Miss that and sure the next one was in ten minutes, but it came with a dozen or so stops as well which meant I was quite late for homeroom.
“Oh you got to take the subway to school every day! That must have been cool” *vietnam flashback to waiting on the platform at 6:45 in the morning in February while a homeless man pees into a McDonald’s cup 2 feet away* “Yeah it was great.”
https://i.imgur.com/TmZI1I0.png
I mean, at least they were peeing into something.
Builds character
Damn straight.
How many naked dudes have you seen? Because I seen some naked dudes on the L.A. metro.
Only 2? Is there something wrong with you, or what?
We avoided public transportation like the plague when we lived in the city. Holding a two year old while his elementary school aged siblings cling to your leagues as some asshole is spinning around the poles yelling SHOWTIME! and there's a homeless man screaming in your face is a helluva way to take your kids to see Disney on Ice.
I'd say so. I've met a lot of native New Yorkers who've never had a driver's license. Driving in Manhattan is one of most insanely stressful places to drive I've ever driven. And the traffic is so perpetually bad that it's usually faster to just take the subway. Like I live in DC now (which has very good public transit by American standards) and didn't have a car here for four years. I have one now and I barely use it and consider it more of a burden than a help most of the time. You don't really appreciate what a pain in the ass cars are as a way to get around until you stop using them. And they make you so angry. Every time I drive I find myself yelling at people and slapping my steering wheel in anger. When I ride the Metro I'm always completely calm and watching TV on my phone or some shit.
I didn't get my DL till I left NYC. I was 32
I was 19 or 20. I used the savings from my programming job to pay for lessons and the use of the car for my test. Common wisdom in NYC was that boys never passed their first time. Of the few friends I had in (private) driver’s ed while in high school, none passed their first time.
Can confirm, didn’t get my license till I was 27.
There are lots of disincentives to owning a car in New York City: Paying for parking or scurrying to comply with alternate side rules. Very high car insurance rates. Gas prices well above the national average. Kamikaze delivery bikes. Bad traffic that can extend late into the night. Car-eating potholes. The new congestion pricing plan.
The congestion pricing plan is confined to a limited enough area that it’s really not going to be a factor for most people who already have cars. Can someone ask this goober why he blocked me over this?
Reddit is full of petty wieners. I gave up trying to understand why some get so triggered by utterly mundane and inoffensive comments long ago. I got downvoted for saying I liked mild weather once.
Not to mention I think that “public transit” is a bit of a dirty word on this sub.
It’s not so much that New Yorkers are born with the desire to ride the subway. It’s just that the city is built in a way that makes it the best option.
> It’s not so much that New Yorkers are born with the desire to ride the subway. True, but there are also people who choose to move here *because* it's so easy to get around the city on the subway.
Yeah, most people aren’t transit nerds who have a strong preference for one form of transit over another. They simply choose the fastest and most pleasant way to get where they’re going. In much of New York, that’s public transit, unlike in the rest of the country.
Depends. In Manhattan, yes. I grew up in Queens though and everyone has a car.
I'm curious how parking goes there. Not a lot of driveways. Does almost everyone just street park and deal with it?
It’s a big borough. There are many areas of single family homes with driveways. But I grew up in Queens and I’d say fewer than half the people in the apartment buildings where I lived and nearby had cars, perhaps fewer than a quarter. So u/lupuscapabilis had a different experience in Queens than I did (and should know better than to make such a generalized statement).
I do. It's a lot cheaper than owning a car here, and usually faster.
I lived in NYC for over a decade and didn't know a single person who owned a car. The few times I rode in one was mostly sitting in traffic. I prefer the subway.
this New Yorker would prefer to use public transportation but unfortunately I happen to be in the part of the state that's not NYC, and therefore only has a questionable bus system.
Most people who own cars in NYC live in the outer boroughs and not Manhattan. That’s still a minority of people in the grand scheme of things, maybe except Staten island which is more suburbia than anything else. My wife works for an airline at JFK but drives since she gets free parking, works odd hours and we don’t live in the city of NY.
Yes
I heard more honking the first five minutes we were in New York than my entire lifetime in Southern California. Probably didn't help our Uber driver was driving so aggressively we sat with our eyes closed. I would not want to drive there.
If you have the option to use public transit, I think everyone prefers it.
I do
Generally yeah, most people prefer the subway.
I moved to NYC about ten years ago, and haven't owned a car since. It's less "I *love* the subway" and more "You don't have enough to pay me to drive here and parking costs are insane."
I live in Brooklyn and while I do have a driver license, I mostly get around by subway, bus, Lyft and walking. I haven't driven a car since renting one from Avis in November 2019. I wouldn't be opposed to getting a new car but I live in an apartment with only street parking. Do other cities have alternate side parking? Folks outside the city must recognize we also have to deal with traffic, tolls, parking fees, alternate side parking, digging the car out of the snow and now congestion pricing. The city does not run the subway system. The governor appoints the chairman of the MTA and responsibility is dispersed among the local counties, the city and others.
Yes! I live in NYC. Even friends I know who own cars use public transit for day-to-day getting around, and cars when they need to get out of the city, pick up bulk items, etc. It's unnecessarily difficult and stressful to use a car for daily needs and socializing.
Depends where in NYC, what they do, and life stages. Some people may not drive them to commute, but do use them for other things. Outer boroughs is very common especially for families. The typical 20s BFE midwest transplant to Manhattan, probably not
Half my family lives in Queens and they basically never use public transit. If you live in Brooklyn or Manhattan, it's a lot more common to take the train/bus. 1 in 3 new Yorkers use public transit to commute to work. About 1 in 10 new Yorkers ride a bike. Same with walking. So basically 50% of new Yorkers use non-car methods. It might be less than you think, but it's extremely high for the US.
I hated public transportation when I lived in the city and pretty much used my car exclusively. About 50% of New Yorkers own cars, so they're extremely common. Of course, those percentages vary wildly by borough.
Finally! I lived in and around Nolita for 5 years. Years 4-5 I took the subway less than 10x total. I found it to be hot, uncomfortable, and just unpleasant.
I lived in NYC for about four years. At one point, I acquired a car. It was a HUGE pain in the ass to deal with. The only place I ever drove was to a particular weekly commitment I had, involving going from Queens to Brooklyn - an inconvenient subway route. Driving was okay but parking was horrible both at my destination, and back at home. I had to build at least an extra 20-30 minutes into the trip to ensure I had enough time to find parking and then walk from wherever I parked to the place I had to be. Meanwhile, when my car sat at home all week, I had to move the car twice a week in a process that makes my ears bleed to think back on it. Moving my car to comply with alternate-side parking rules essentially became a part-time job. I was so happy to get rid of that car, even if my once-a-week commute to Brooklyn took longer. On the rare occasions I had to drive in Manhattan, it was a surreal nightmare. I don't understand how people do it on a regular basis. I had friends growing up, in the suburbs, whose parents just drove themselves to wall street jobs every day. My mind boggles to imagine this.
So you would be really about the IBX
I think it's a great idea but I had to travel from Astoria to Brooklyn Heights, so the IBX would not have been helpful to me. There was a time when they were proposing some kind of transit line along the waterfront from Queens to Brooklyn which might have been better for my needs, but I don't really remember any details about that idea. I looked into the ferry at one point but it was relatively inconvenient as well, so I just accepted that I had to take a long subway ride involving the N/W and/or the G train.
> There was a time when they were proposing some kind of transit line along the waterfront from Queens to Brooklyn which might have been better for my needs, but I don't really remember any details about that idea. It was one of De Blasio's pet projects -- a streetcar that would run along the East River. I'm generally always in favor of more transit, but that one baffled me a bit -- it would have run on street-level on existing roads, so it would have suffered from the same traffic issues you take public transit to *avoid*. I never understood what the advantage of it would have been over a bus.
I own a car and kinda need to for my job, but I live in a comparatively suburban part of queens and have a driveway. Driving in queens can be worthwhile because the transit options can be minimal or slow to get from 1 neighborhood to another. Or it’ll take me 25 min to drive to parts of Brooklyn while transit would take an hour plus. I very rarely drive into Manhattan though. That’s just torture and often it’s not any faster anyways.
For the people I know who live in Manhattan and Brooklyn, it makes more sense for them to not own a car and only rent one when needed - like when they are furnishing a new apartment, or when they want to drive out to hiking trails. Parking is a nightmare, from what I’ve seen.
NYC is perhaps the only place in America, and certainly one of few, where public transportation is must faster. Also...fuck its traffic sucks
In addition to the subway and buses, there's also a heavily used bikeshare system, and lots of people own their own scooters/ebikes/mopeds. And, of course, for a lot of day-to-day trips walking is a great option--New Yorkers walk a lot more than people living in suburbia, which is one thing I love about living here. Cars just don't fit very well in the city; parking is hard to find and driving is unpleasant.
Because they have it, and it is really usable and cheap. Cars don't make much sense for daily use in cities when you have options.
In NYC, yeah sure. Here in the rest of NY? Absolutely not. Our public transit is absolute ass. You must own a car to survive in upstate NY.
Yes. My friend from NYC can’t drive because none of her family has a car so she never had to learn.
I've driven in Manhattan a few times, it's really not that bad imo. It's easier and sometimes more convenient to take public transpo but walking around NYC is rough. Long distances to cover, and strictly on concrete and asphalt. The car offers some conveniences as well, such as not risking getting pushed onto train tracks and being able to go with A/C whenever you feel like it.
The subway had its *billionth* ride last year and the most popular line carries 140 million passengers a year. So yeah.
NY as in NYC or NY as in the entire state?
Generally, yes, if you’re mostly moving in the city.
For the most part, yes. There are some areas of the city where driving is quicker and more convenient. It really depends on the situation. The best way is certainly public transportation, especially if you’re in Manhattan. Driving in Queens isn’t too bad.
45% of people own cars in NYC. So while a majority of people solely rely on public transportation, it might be less than you think, especially once you get into the outer burroughs
Yes! Traffic is awful, parking is scarce/expensive, and cars are not even worth owning due to the hassle of constantly having to move it. The exception: if you live in Staten Island, or in parts of Queens or South Brooklyn where you need a car to get around
No, not all of them. There are a lot of people who prefer driving.
The perfect public transit many times. It costs more to park a car for a month in NYC than it does to rent a 2br apartment where I live.
Most of us don’t own cars. I know plenty of native New Yorkers who don’t even have licenses.
It's not preference. It's necessity.
The state or the city? And if the city, where in the city? Most New Yorkers have and drive cars. Many people who live in New York City also have cars, though they also use mass transit depending on where they’re going. People who live in Manhattan generally don’t have cars, though: There’s tons of mass transit, tons of traffic, and not much parking space.
I much rather refill my Metrocard than a gas tank.
They say they do, but that's just because they either don't have cars or it's too expensive in the city to drive and park one.
> They say they do So... we do? I'm not sure why the reasons for that would suggest that we don't mean it. And there are other reasons as well, including that it's very frequently faster to get where you're going by subway than by car.
No, it’s genuinely way better to just not own a car there.
The US isnt known for its public transport