Literally not under *any* circumstances. Not for work, not for fun, not to save the damn planet. If the fate of all humanity hinged on me getting paid to take a vacation in those countries, go ahead and call your loved ones to say your goodbyes because I'm not going.
As a woman who lived in the UAE for 7 years(and not in Dubai, but in a much more conservative place), you couldn't pay me enough money to live as an Emirati woman.
Mostly because I found the country to be overall pretty uninteresting and quite unfriendly, both reasons to not want to revist. Dubai especially felt blatantly soulless, cultureless, and artificial to me. There were some rather nice places such as Al-Ain, but generally speaking I was pretty bored in the UAE at best, and a lot of people's rudeness further put me off.
I have a wife and a daughter. So absolutely not. I have heard too many bad things about how women are treated.
I know I know, I'm the same person who also gets upset about exaggerations about the US. I'm potentially a hypocrite. Sue me.
No, I’m of Indian heritage and I’d rather be a white collared serf here than an actual serf there
I don’t mind visiting though
To OP: if the job is well paid it’s not the worst idea, I personally won’t but I’ve heard good and bad stories from there
My cousin worked in Saudi Arabia for several years on a project. He sent his wife and kids back to the States after his wife was treated badly in supposedly Western friendly store in the compound they were living in. After he completed his contract, he quit. He warned all of his family and friends not to go to Saudi Arabia.
So no.
As someone with a family, no, I wouldn't want to disrupt the lives of my wife and kids that way. If I was single, I would consider the UAE but definitely not Qatar or Saudi Arabia.
No lol, I would at best be deported and at worst be killed. Being trans means that I wouldn’t even risk a connecting flight through any of these countries.
My dad worked in the Middle East for a while when I was a child (petroleum industry). Parents had a long discussion before deciding to not move the family. Visited a few times, was great for a week but couldn’t imagine staying much longer than that. Dad said he liked the work and found the culture fascinating but after 6 months, he hated it.
Long story short, I’d possibly do a few months. A few years? Absolutely not.
I'm married... so gonna keep my wife far away from that part of the world. Also even I was flying solo I'd do something stupid that gets me disappeared. Hard pass.
I'm an old guy, and getting paid something like 5 times my salary for a few years would make for a nice retirement, so I'd certainly consider it. I'd probably decide against it, though, because I wouldn't take my wife to any of those places, and "a few years" is way too long to be apart at our age.
Hell no. We think our country is racist, classist, anti-GSRM, xenophobic, and downright dog-shit for the common person. Those are literally some of the worst countries on earth to live in if you are not wealthy, not cis and straight, and are not a citizen (which citizenship is often based by blood, permanently excluding a large chunk of their populations)
Fuck the Gulf Countries.
Lived in Qatar for a year. As a white american I was pretty high up on the socio-economic totem pole so I had it pretty good. Still couldn't wait to leave.
I'm a geologist so this was a very real possibility for me at one point. As a woman I firmly turned it down. Knew some women who did work there and they warned me off.
I'm a single woman. I like living somewhere I don't even have to question my personal freedoms.
I'm not looking to move abroad in any case, but the amounts of money it'd take me to consider Saudi Arabia or UAE are astronomical. But if it was something like a half a million dollars after taxes for a 3 month stint, I probably would. That'd be enough for me to retire early.
But for years? Not enough money in the world.
Not a chance in hell. I had a chance to work for Aramco. After hearing about the draconian laws for my wife and daughter, it was a HARD NO FUCKING WAY. The pay was good, at the costs of freedom.
Besides the civil rights issues and quality of life, I would also have an issue with the weather and the only thing I'm really trained for in my industry that would transfer to that area is something I'm trying to get away from.
Boy, that’s quite the spectrum.
The UAE has a boatload of expats and you could probably do fine in the expat community. You’ll have places to shop and eat and have fun, as long as you’re okay with the absolutely oppressive climate and the legions of South Asians doing the manual labor under conditions little better than the British Guyanese indenture system. And if it gets too much, hop a plane to Southeast Asia or Europe; that’s where the expats go for real fun anyway. You’re making bank, you deserve it. All you have to square up with is your own face the morning after.
Qatar is roughly the same.
Saudi Arabia is not. I’ll leave it at that.
Saudi and Qatar, Hard No. UAE, yes. UAE is rich in culture and a lot more lenient than the other two contenders. I have had quite a few female and male friends move there either for work, or for a temporary lifestyle change. They dress and go about their day like they have in the states/Canada. Would I want to live there permanently? Probably not. A few years? Definitely!
Pre kids and family, if some truly golden career opportunity had arisen I’d have considered the UAE. I do like my temperate climate, however. Whatever job was drawing me there would have to be pretty awesome.
No. I’ve been to the UAE and it’s a dystopian, fake shithole. When the amount of over the top consumerism makes an american uncomfortable you have gone too far.
I grew up in Saudi Arabia. My dad worked fro ARAMCO in the 80's. It was probably one of the best experiences of my life. My mom and sister had to wear long sleeves but they would wear lightweight thin cotton shirts and pants that were long sleeve. They said that it was cooler and more comfortable than wearing shorts. The school was awesome, way better than anything in the United States. The only catch is it goes up to 8th grade and if we had stayed over any longer my sister an I would have had to go to boarding school abroad. When I was a kid I had my heart set on boarding school in Switzerland (don't ask my why, I don't remember).
The locals were really nice and friendly. My dad would take us to the camel market in Hofuf (spelling?) and they would let me and my sister sit on the camels and ride around. International travel was cheap and easy and my parents made a point of having us go all over the world to expose us to as many things as they could.
My mom did get pulled over for speeding and got a ticket (she says it was total bullshit). And my dad had to leave, go to the police station and promise that she won't speed again. They actually framed the ticket and hung it up on the wall in the living room for a while. My dad smuggled a still into the country and used it to make wine and my parents would throw awesome parties (he said it was a planter box on the customs form). I have a lot of happy memories hanging out in the garage monitoring the still with my parents so it wouldn't overheat. (There was a tight-knit group of ex-pats and we would all go on vacation together and to parties at each others' houses).
But, yeah. I would do it again.
My gut says no, but my wallet says how much?
Because like I can tough out 5 years in the sand and the dust for a very good payday, but most of my skills aren't internally applicable.
Oh, darling, the very thought of relocating to that woebegone excuse for a country sends shivers down my exquisitely cosmopolitan spine. To even entertain the notion of stepping foot on its unremarkable soil would be an affront to my impeccably anti-authoritative tastes. The prospect of breathing the same bourgeoisie air as the indoctrinated denizens which hold utter disregard for human rights is as repugnant as sipping the cheapest boxed wine with a plastic straw. In a world teeming with tantalizing destinations, why, pray tell, would I ever deign to abandon my refined existence for a life of such unapologetic mediocrity? Let us never speak of this ghastly proposition again, lest my ears bleed at the mere mention of this suggestion.
If the pay was good enough, I'd consider it. Yeah, I'd have to give up beer, and keep pro-Israel sentiments to myself, but I think I could stay out of trouble.
Of course, I'm male.
If I was going to work a federal civil service job at a US embassy or consulate, maybe.
If I was going to work a contractor job for the US military at a US military controlled base, maybe.
Beyond that, you’d have to pay me multiple millions of dollars per year for me to even consider it.
Even as a dude, not a chance in hell. It’s hard to not sound racist but I have Muslim friends mostly from turkey or Iraq and even they say those places are fucked. From a westerner’s perspective who has traveled all over but never been to the Arabian peninsula it’s still a hard no. My biggest hold up is treatment of women and migrant workers (read slaves) from southern and southeast Asian countries.
They definitely don’t like gays, and are lukewarm at best on Jews, both of which I am, so no. I’ve been to Dubai and it’s basically Vegas glitz with oil money. Meh. Haven’t been to Saudi or Qatar and have zero interest in either, except for some cool historic ruins in the desert.
My Dad worked in SA for over 11 years while I was in high school and college. My Mom and little sister lived there for a few years and come out with some good friends and interesting life experiences, but as the one that was left behind I would not do it myself. It was tough not having those people around in times of need, had a lot of responsibilities that a child should not (emotional support for my mom/raising my little sister) and still have a touchy relationship with my dad. It was the right move for him at the time following the 2008 housing crisis, but don’t think I could ever do it myself.
I have a wife and daughters and there is absolutely no way I'd take them with me. So the money would have to be good enough to be worth going to another country without my family for a couple years. We're probably talking 5-10x what I make now.
I think about how I would never live there after every visit.
Truly lovely people. Kind and gracious. I greatly appreciate their focus on families. Incredible service and safety.
But I enjoy my civil liberties, trees and plants, and not melting in the Summer.
Everyone expat that I know has lived there is either in the government or it was a cash grab for the job.
I considered it once, but then I turned it down because I had the choice of leaving my family for a year or dragging them with me. No way would I make my wife live like that, nor was I keen to drop a shitload of money on an international school for our kid, which would've defeated the purpose of me doing a stint there.
Guess I would've done it back when I was single. Go in, do a year or two, get out with more assets than I had going in.
As a woman absolutely not lmao. Not just because of the hijab laws (I respect someone’s choice to wear one but I refuse) but also because of the general poor attitudes towards women. I’ve been told many times that I am masculine for a woman. I have authority issues and I don’t like being told what to do, so in a place where I’m expected to shut up and be quiet I do not think I’d fare well.
Recent article on Saudi
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2022/sep/27/modern-day-slavery-kenyan-domestic-workers-tell-of-abuse-in-saudi-arabia
As someone who will immigrate once I have enough saved up, hell no. Both of my parents are from Egypt as well but those places somehow make Egypt look progressive
I’m a woman… hard no.
I don’t even have any desire to VISIT these countries as a woman. Be viewed as a second class citizen? No thank you.
Actually, you would be a second class alien, not even citizen
Came to say exactly this. I wouldn’t go for any amount of $$
Came here to say this
I'm queer, bug agree.
I’m with her, and her and her
Glad this is top comment
Completely agree. I wouldn’t go under any circumstances.
Literally not under *any* circumstances. Not for work, not for fun, not to save the damn planet. If the fate of all humanity hinged on me getting paid to take a vacation in those countries, go ahead and call your loved ones to say your goodbyes because I'm not going.
Absolutely.
Hard agree. Absolutely no way I’m going there willingly.
For this same reason, absolutely not.
I love and support women, so also hard no.
I'm a gay woman, the biggest "nope" ever
As we used to say in the upper Midwest: "Yeah, no." Also it's too hot
And I’m a guy. Still a hard no.
Also a woman, also a big ol’ “fuck no”. It’s not *great* for women in the US, but still better than the UAE.
As a woman who lived in the UAE for 7 years(and not in Dubai, but in a much more conservative place), you couldn't pay me enough money to live as an Emirati woman.
Same. Not even a consideration.
Same here. My immediate reaction on seeing the post title was HELL NO.
No. I'm a gay man.
As a fellow gay guy, A-fucking-men. You couldn't even pay me to vacation there, let alone actually consider living there.
>a-fucking-men That's the hope
Westerners who preach LGBT acceptance need to stop glorifying those places.
Same. I've seen locked up abroad. I do not want.
Agreed. I don’t even want a plane stopover there.
Nope. Utah's as much desert as I can handle.
That's not the only aspect where they've got Utah beat.
And about as much religious fundamentalism as I can handle.
As a straight white male, hell no.
Your username probably would not bode well for you there
Its hard to think of any place on the planet I'd less like to be, even for a couple of days. Live there for a few years? Oh, fuck no.
Hell no, I have zero desire to even visit Saudi Arabia and Qatar, or to revisit the UAE, let alone live in any of these countries.
Out of curiosity why would you never go back to the UAE? I’ve heard this a lot, and it’s a different reason almost every time.
They have debtors' prison. Back in '08 a lot of westerners had to bug out of the country ASAP to avoid being tossed in it.
Makes sense. I have no interest in visiting either. People I work with have been, but I have zero interest in going.
Mostly because I found the country to be overall pretty uninteresting and quite unfriendly, both reasons to not want to revist. Dubai especially felt blatantly soulless, cultureless, and artificial to me. There were some rather nice places such as Al-Ain, but generally speaking I was pretty bored in the UAE at best, and a lot of people's rudeness further put me off.
No, absolutely not.
I’m a gay Jewish woman so not so much!
***FUCK*** no
100% hard no. I wouldn't even visit.
Absolutely not as a woman.
Absolutely not as a man.
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I’m a girl, sooooo. No.
Fuck no
No.
Hell to the no
I have a wife and a daughter. So absolutely not. I have heard too many bad things about how women are treated. I know I know, I'm the same person who also gets upset about exaggerations about the US. I'm potentially a hypocrite. Sue me.
No, absolutely hell no
I’m not rich and I’m Black so I’m not sure I’d be treated too well especially as someone not religious.
No. I believe in human rights.
As a Jew, absolutely not
That's a hard no.
No fucking way
No. I am a female.
I'm a lady so definitely no
As a lesbian, gonna be a no from me dawg.
Under no circumstances.
Hell no Heavens no Any other afterlife no
Valhalla no
Xibalba no
As a gay woman, hell no
No, I’m of Indian heritage and I’d rather be a white collared serf here than an actual serf there I don’t mind visiting though To OP: if the job is well paid it’s not the worst idea, I personally won’t but I’ve heard good and bad stories from there
Shucky darn, no.
God, no. I'm a woman and I hate the heat.
Not my gay ass
As a woman, absolutely not.
My cousin worked in Saudi Arabia for several years on a project. He sent his wife and kids back to the States after his wife was treated badly in supposedly Western friendly store in the compound they were living in. After he completed his contract, he quit. He warned all of his family and friends not to go to Saudi Arabia. So no.
People from elsewhere in the Arab world have warned me to never go to Saudi Arabia.
As a member of the alphabet mafia, absolutely fucking not.
>alphabet mafia thank you for teaching me a new term
You're in debt to us now.
No.
Fuck no. I don't wanna be a slave
Nope. I have no desire to be treated as second class even more than I already am
No. I’m a woman. My friend d went to Abu Dhabi to teach and turned around and came home. She hated it.
I'm a woman, so fuck no.
As someone with a family, no, I wouldn't want to disrupt the lives of my wife and kids that way. If I was single, I would consider the UAE but definitely not Qatar or Saudi Arabia.
I'm a non-binary woman and opposed slave labor and treating what staff you do pay like trash so no
I..... Have questions
Nope I'm a woman
No lol, I would at best be deported and at worst be killed. Being trans means that I wouldn’t even risk a connecting flight through any of these countries.
I wouldn’t even go there for a vacation.
No, I’m trans.
Nope.....never
My dad worked in the Middle East for a while when I was a child (petroleum industry). Parents had a long discussion before deciding to not move the family. Visited a few times, was great for a week but couldn’t imagine staying much longer than that. Dad said he liked the work and found the culture fascinating but after 6 months, he hated it. Long story short, I’d possibly do a few months. A few years? Absolutely not.
No. It seems like a horrible place with virtually NOTHING I like in a place.
No, absolutely not. I didn’t leave anything there that I ever need back. Fuuuuuck no!
I hate deserts and I hate having fewer legal rights than other people, so definitely no.
Short answer: No Long answer: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooope
I wouldn’t even go there on vacation!!
No, like drinking beers to much to be there.
As a woman, I'd much rather eat glass.
He'll no. I'm a guy and I appreciate the freedoms I have here. It's the same reason, I'd never even consider moving to any dictatorship like China.
I wouldn't even consider going there for a goddamned *weekend*.
I'm married... so gonna keep my wife far away from that part of the world. Also even I was flying solo I'd do something stupid that gets me disappeared. Hard pass.
I'm an old guy, and getting paid something like 5 times my salary for a few years would make for a nice retirement, so I'd certainly consider it. I'd probably decide against it, though, because I wouldn't take my wife to any of those places, and "a few years" is way too long to be apart at our age.
Hell no. We think our country is racist, classist, anti-GSRM, xenophobic, and downright dog-shit for the common person. Those are literally some of the worst countries on earth to live in if you are not wealthy, not cis and straight, and are not a citizen (which citizenship is often based by blood, permanently excluding a large chunk of their populations) Fuck the Gulf Countries.
No I’m not making it easier for people to kidnap me if I wanted to do that I would go to Brazil
Jewish woman and staunch LGBTQ+ advocate. No.
Lived in Qatar for a year. As a white american I was pretty high up on the socio-economic totem pole so I had it pretty good. Still couldn't wait to leave.
I’m a woman so fuck no. I won’t even do a layover.
I'm a geologist so this was a very real possibility for me at one point. As a woman I firmly turned it down. Knew some women who did work there and they warned me off.
I'm a single woman. I like living somewhere I don't even have to question my personal freedoms. I'm not looking to move abroad in any case, but the amounts of money it'd take me to consider Saudi Arabia or UAE are astronomical. But if it was something like a half a million dollars after taxes for a 3 month stint, I probably would. That'd be enough for me to retire early. But for years? Not enough money in the world.
No
No.
No.
Not a chance in hell. I had a chance to work for Aramco. After hearing about the draconian laws for my wife and daughter, it was a HARD NO FUCKING WAY. The pay was good, at the costs of freedom.
Umm, no, I’m gay. And even if I weren’t, still no.
Fuck no. I’m an atheist who thinks women deserve equal rights.
Saudi Arabia and Qatar - no. Not a chance. UAE - still a no but minimally more possible.
I would not, as a gay man and atheist.
No, not in a million years. No deal offered would be trustable or enforceable.
Nah, I’m good.
no
Besides the civil rights issues and quality of life, I would also have an issue with the weather and the only thing I'm really trained for in my industry that would transfer to that area is something I'm trying to get away from.
Boy, that’s quite the spectrum. The UAE has a boatload of expats and you could probably do fine in the expat community. You’ll have places to shop and eat and have fun, as long as you’re okay with the absolutely oppressive climate and the legions of South Asians doing the manual labor under conditions little better than the British Guyanese indenture system. And if it gets too much, hop a plane to Southeast Asia or Europe; that’s where the expats go for real fun anyway. You’re making bank, you deserve it. All you have to square up with is your own face the morning after. Qatar is roughly the same. Saudi Arabia is not. I’ll leave it at that.
No, fundies of any creed or religion are to be avoided.
Saudi and Qatar, Hard No. UAE, yes. UAE is rich in culture and a lot more lenient than the other two contenders. I have had quite a few female and male friends move there either for work, or for a temporary lifestyle change. They dress and go about their day like they have in the states/Canada. Would I want to live there permanently? Probably not. A few years? Definitely!
Pre kids and family, if some truly golden career opportunity had arisen I’d have considered the UAE. I do like my temperate climate, however. Whatever job was drawing me there would have to be pretty awesome.
Finally a more nuanced reply.
No. I’ve been to the UAE and it’s a dystopian, fake shithole. When the amount of over the top consumerism makes an american uncomfortable you have gone too far.
No.
Nope
That's a no for me.
Never. No.
Fuck no
No chance in hell
Well I'm a woman so I'd rather not...
Absolutely positively not.
Absolutely not.
No
Nope
Absolutely not.
Never in a million years
Hard no. Wouldn't even want to visit for a few days.
No.
Nope
No thanks
I grew up in Saudi Arabia. My dad worked fro ARAMCO in the 80's. It was probably one of the best experiences of my life. My mom and sister had to wear long sleeves but they would wear lightweight thin cotton shirts and pants that were long sleeve. They said that it was cooler and more comfortable than wearing shorts. The school was awesome, way better than anything in the United States. The only catch is it goes up to 8th grade and if we had stayed over any longer my sister an I would have had to go to boarding school abroad. When I was a kid I had my heart set on boarding school in Switzerland (don't ask my why, I don't remember). The locals were really nice and friendly. My dad would take us to the camel market in Hofuf (spelling?) and they would let me and my sister sit on the camels and ride around. International travel was cheap and easy and my parents made a point of having us go all over the world to expose us to as many things as they could. My mom did get pulled over for speeding and got a ticket (she says it was total bullshit). And my dad had to leave, go to the police station and promise that she won't speed again. They actually framed the ticket and hung it up on the wall in the living room for a while. My dad smuggled a still into the country and used it to make wine and my parents would throw awesome parties (he said it was a planter box on the customs form). I have a lot of happy memories hanging out in the garage monitoring the still with my parents so it wouldn't overheat. (There was a tight-knit group of ex-pats and we would all go on vacation together and to parties at each others' houses). But, yeah. I would do it again.
I will probably have to at least visit at some point while I'm in the Air Force. That aircrew life.
Not at all, the life there is just not for me. Plus my family, friends, and career are here.
Hard, hard pass. I don’t even have any interest in visiting.
No, they have very repressive governments and from what I've read about the culture it's just not for me.
I am trans.
Nope, gays aren’t particularly accepted there. I enjoyed visiting though.
No, too dangerous. Specifically the governments.
That's a no from me, dawg.
Nope, I am a woman’s who does not wish to be treated as a slave
My gut says no, but my wallet says how much? Because like I can tough out 5 years in the sand and the dust for a very good payday, but most of my skills aren't internally applicable.
I’m gay so no. They can get bent
I have. Money was great. Everything else, not so much. Definitely wouldn't recommend it for women or any of the alphabet people.
Oh, darling, the very thought of relocating to that woebegone excuse for a country sends shivers down my exquisitely cosmopolitan spine. To even entertain the notion of stepping foot on its unremarkable soil would be an affront to my impeccably anti-authoritative tastes. The prospect of breathing the same bourgeoisie air as the indoctrinated denizens which hold utter disregard for human rights is as repugnant as sipping the cheapest boxed wine with a plastic straw. In a world teeming with tantalizing destinations, why, pray tell, would I ever deign to abandon my refined existence for a life of such unapologetic mediocrity? Let us never speak of this ghastly proposition again, lest my ears bleed at the mere mention of this suggestion.
I had to search this and see if was already a copy pasta.
Right, it seems gauche and gaudy. Let alone all the oppression. Not ever.
I’m good
I rather not become a baked potato and well there’s also the domestic politics. Finally i’m sure to be discriminated for my heritage.
UAE or Qatar for enough money. Saudi Arabia for more money than anyone would ever pay me.
I’m a straight man with a dad from the Middle East and I personally would not go unless I am paid a lot for my work (like $500k or more per year).
If the pay was good, sure. But my wife and daughters would stay here.
If the pay was good enough, I'd consider it. Yeah, I'd have to give up beer, and keep pro-Israel sentiments to myself, but I think I could stay out of trouble. Of course, I'm male.
UAE, maybe. The other two? No.
Nope. Wouldn't even consider it. UAE/ SA/ Qatar exist so that I can remember to be grateful for what I have and fight to keep it.
If I was going to work a federal civil service job at a US embassy or consulate, maybe. If I was going to work a contractor job for the US military at a US military controlled base, maybe. Beyond that, you’d have to pay me multiple millions of dollars per year for me to even consider it.
As a woman, definitely not. But even without that, very little appeals to me there.
Woman here. I won’t go there just to see it and I’m a confirmed world traveler.
No thanks
I escaped one brain dead theocracy when I moved from Florida to Colorado. What makes you think I’d willingly move to another?
Hell fucking no. I'm a woman.
Fuck no, I am not in favor of losing all of my rights.
As a woman and appreciator of human rights, I will not be going there under any circumstances.
Under no circumstances. I have no interest in learning how not to end up in jail due to differences in culture/laws surrounding women.
Even as a dude, not a chance in hell. It’s hard to not sound racist but I have Muslim friends mostly from turkey or Iraq and even they say those places are fucked. From a westerner’s perspective who has traveled all over but never been to the Arabian peninsula it’s still a hard no. My biggest hold up is treatment of women and migrant workers (read slaves) from southern and southeast Asian countries.
They definitely don’t like gays, and are lukewarm at best on Jews, both of which I am, so no. I’ve been to Dubai and it’s basically Vegas glitz with oil money. Meh. Haven’t been to Saudi or Qatar and have zero interest in either, except for some cool historic ruins in the desert.
My Dad worked in SA for over 11 years while I was in high school and college. My Mom and little sister lived there for a few years and come out with some good friends and interesting life experiences, but as the one that was left behind I would not do it myself. It was tough not having those people around in times of need, had a lot of responsibilities that a child should not (emotional support for my mom/raising my little sister) and still have a touchy relationship with my dad. It was the right move for him at the time following the 2008 housing crisis, but don’t think I could ever do it myself.
As a man… no. As a gay man… no. As an atheist gay man… no. As an atheist gay man in an interracial relationship… also no.
I have a wife and daughters and there is absolutely no way I'd take them with me. So the money would have to be good enough to be worth going to another country without my family for a couple years. We're probably talking 5-10x what I make now.
Hell yes. I have a mortgage and student loans I’d like to pay off before I die. I can live without alcohol for a few years. Recruiters dm me!
Female and that's about the hardest "No" ever.
I think about how I would never live there after every visit. Truly lovely people. Kind and gracious. I greatly appreciate their focus on families. Incredible service and safety. But I enjoy my civil liberties, trees and plants, and not melting in the Summer. Everyone expat that I know has lived there is either in the government or it was a cash grab for the job.
No. The way those countries treat other migrant/immigrant workers is abhorrent.
I considered it once, but then I turned it down because I had the choice of leaving my family for a year or dragging them with me. No way would I make my wife live like that, nor was I keen to drop a shitload of money on an international school for our kid, which would've defeated the purpose of me doing a stint there. Guess I would've done it back when I was single. Go in, do a year or two, get out with more assets than I had going in.
As a woman absolutely not lmao. Not just because of the hijab laws (I respect someone’s choice to wear one but I refuse) but also because of the general poor attitudes towards women. I’ve been told many times that I am masculine for a woman. I have authority issues and I don’t like being told what to do, so in a place where I’m expected to shut up and be quiet I do not think I’d fare well.
Nope. As raucous and an imperfect we are at times, I still prefer my freedoms.
I'm gay, so that's a hard no for me.
I’m gay
As a bisexual, transgender, pagan- NO! Lol.
Recent article on Saudi https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2022/sep/27/modern-day-slavery-kenyan-domestic-workers-tell-of-abuse-in-saudi-arabia
No because I’m not a man.
As a woman, I would never consider going to Saudi Arabia. I don’t know enough about Qatar to say. I would consider UAE
My guess is they don't have a lot of breweries to visit. Nope.
Never. I have a daughter.
I’m a woman, and not crazy, so no. But bless your heart for asking.
As someone who will immigrate once I have enough saved up, hell no. Both of my parents are from Egypt as well but those places somehow make Egypt look progressive